RE: Debian on a Sparcstation 2
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 06:30 -0700, Peter Crawford wrote: > At Mon, 25 May 2009 15:14:00 +0200 > joel.bertr...@systella.fr wrote, > > Etch for both. SS2 cannot run with Sarge. > > Thanks. > > > I know, but as sun4, sun4c and sun4m support have been dropped, you > > have to install another OS or drop your SS2 :-( > > OK thanks. Will try to put Etch on the external > drive and keep NetBSD in mind. What is likely > to fail if Etch is left on the SS2 for years? > The first problem you are likely to have is that you won't recieve security updates. If you're willing to backport / monitor fixes, accept that it is insecure* or lock down the machine to a state that there aren't many viable attack vectors then this *may* not be a problem. Apart from that nothing should 'fail' as such; but you will find that it gets progressively harder to build / install up to date software as more and more of the dependancies have to be built as the system ones are not available or not up to date. If you're OK with this then there is no reason that you can't keep using the system until the hardware finally gives up the ghost. Make sure it's cooled adequately and power cycled as infrequenty as possible and you should be able to run it for years to come. Cheers, - Martin *. and remember having an insecure box on the net doesn't just affect you; it potentially affects everyone. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-sparc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE: Debian on a Sparcstation 2
At Mon, 25 May 2009 15:14:00 +0200 joel.bertr...@systella.fr wrote, > Etch for both. SS2 cannot run with Sarge. Thanks. > I know, but as sun4, sun4c and sun4m support have been dropped, you > have to install another OS or drop your SS2 :-( OK thanks. Will try to put Etch on the external drive and keep NetBSD in mind. What is likely to fail if Etch is left on the SS2 for years? The lifespan of these Sparcs is amazing. The SS2 demonstrates hardware durability and is good for low demand http service. Regards, ... Peter E. _ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-sparc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian on a Sparcstation 2
Peter Crawford a écrit : At Mon, 25 May 2009 11:29:27 +0200 joel.bertr...@systella.fr wrote, Etch worked fine. Sarge doesn't work due to some bugs in kernel and libc. Is that for SS2 or SS20 or both? I have a SS2. Etch for both. SS2 cannot run with Sarge. For an old SS2 (I have one), or all sun4[cdm] stations, you have to use NetBSD 4.0.1 (or 5.0 in UP). ... Well I prefer to stick with Debian if possible. Another system would absorb more precious hours. One reason for choosing Debian originally was the claim to universality. I know, but as sun4, sun4c and sun4m support have been dropped, you have to install another OS or drop your SS2 :-( JKB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-sparc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE: Debian on a Sparcstation 2
At Mon, 25 May 2009 11:29:27 +0200 joel.bertr...@systella.fr wrote, > Etch worked fine. Sarge doesn't work due to some bugs in kernel and > libc. Is that for SS2 or SS20 or both? I have a SS2. > For an old SS2 (I have one), or all sun4[cdm] stations, you have to use > NetBSD 4.0.1 (or 5.0 in UP). ... Well I prefer to stick with Debian if possible. Another system would absorb more precious hours. One reason for choosing Debian originally was the claim to universality. Thanks, ... Peter E. _ Internet explorer 8 lets you browse the web faster. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655582 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-sparc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian on a Sparcstation 2
Chris Andrew a écrit : I don't have the URL to hand, but support for sparc (32-bit) was dropped with Lenny. In practice the best I managed was Sarge on an SS20, with multiple problems with Etch, even if I installed Sarge then did a dist-upgrade. Etch worked fine. Sarge doesn't work due to some bugs in kernel and libc. I have tried to fix these bugs without success. I have obtain good results with lenny and 2.6 kernel (only UP and sparcv8 [SS20] without HyperSPARC because HyperSPARC's MMU supoort is totaly broken.). I have made a 'dist-upgrade' from sarge and from sources. I don't know status of sparc linux kernel (SMP), but I jnow there are two branchs : first from kernel.org, and another for leon processor. I've never tested second one. For an old SS2 (I have one), or all sun4[cdm] stations, you have to use NetBSD 4.0.1 (or 5.0 in UP). Even Solaris 9 isn't stable on a SS20 with more than two processors. SS2 can run Solaris 7 too (if I remember). Regards, JKB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-sparc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
