Re: Please update Ports wiki page
On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 6:18 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 06/25/2016 12:01 PM, Holger Wansing wrote: >> 2. And additionally to the issues mentioned above, it's even worse: >> >>2.1 There are more archs listed as "released", while they got >>removed from Jessie: ia64, kFreeBSD 64-bit, kFreeBSD 32-bit, >>s390, and the already mentioned sparc. > > sparc is going to be replaced with sparc64 soonish. We're already in > the progress of receiving hardware sponsorship :). That's awesome. I hope you have better luck finding the hardware than me. I look forward to the forthcoming updates. I'm having trouble with the Sparc64 port (#828041). The Sun machines at the GCC compile farm are down. I purchased a used UltraSpark workstation last week, but the company sent a Core2 machine. I have not been able to perform any testing under Sparc Jeff
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> 1. Please note that the page is not a wiki, as stated above. That's a good point. Perhaps the wiki page should have a mildly different style to differentiate them. Wiki's are a community effort at documentation, so it makes sense to ensure they are differentiated. Users know they can contribute based on a visual queue. For what its worth, I've had good success with two wikis. First is the Crypto++ wiki, which has been running for about 12 years. The second is the OpenSSL wiki, which is still maturing. The crowd has a interesting property - they always converge on the right answer. So the more contributions you get over time, the more correct the information becomes. Its a confounding property to me. Jeff
Re: Please update Ports wiki page
On 06/25/2016 12:18 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 06/25/2016 12:01 PM, Holger Wansing wrote: >> 2. And additionally to the issues mentioned above, it's even worse: >> >>2.1 There are more archs listed as "released", while they got >>removed from Jessie: ia64, kFreeBSD 64-bit, kFreeBSD 32-bit, >>s390, and the already mentioned sparc. > > sparc is going to be replaced with sparc64 soonish. We're already in > the progress of receiving hardware sponsorship :). Ah, the status for "m68k" should also be set to "in progress" and "sh" should be renamed to "sh4", plus someone should add a note about J-Core [1] to the "sh4" port. Adrian > [1] http://j-core.org/ -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
Re: Please update Ports wiki page
On 06/25/2016 12:01 PM, Holger Wansing wrote: > 2. And additionally to the issues mentioned above, it's even worse: > >2.1 There are more archs listed as "released", while they got >removed from Jessie: ia64, kFreeBSD 64-bit, kFreeBSD 32-bit, >s390, and the already mentioned sparc. sparc is going to be replaced with sparc64 soonish. We're already in the progress of receiving hardware sponsorship :). Another mistake on this site: It mentions "32-bit PC (i386)" but that should be updated to "32-bit PC (i686)" as Pentium-II-class CPUs are now the minimum for the i386 port. >2.3 There is a valid release-notes for s390 for Jessie, even if >that port is not existing in Jessie. That should just be mapped to s390x and updated accordingly. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
Re: Please update Ports wiki page
Hi, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > The Ports wiki page (https://www.debian.org/ports/) appears to be out > > of date. Its causing confusion among users and maintainers. For > > example, a few bugs were reported for Sparc even though Tokarev, a > > QEMU--static maintainer, states its no longer supported. > > > > Spark should probably be labelled as discontinued. > > I've CCed the SPARC porters, hopefully they can come up with a patch for this. > > I expect they would be interested to hear about bugs in qemu so they > can fix them. 1. Please note that the page is not a wiki, as stated above. 2. And additionally to the issues mentioned above, it's even worse: 2.1 There are more archs listed as "released", while they got removed from Jessie: ia64, kFreeBSD 64-bit, kFreeBSD 32-bit, s390, and the already mentioned sparc. 2.2 The link to the release notes on the ports page for the above mentioned archs shows release-notes for Debian 7.0, even if it points to stable: clicking on https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ia64/release-notes/ shows an oldstable release-notes. That seems to be an apache issue: the pages exist from the Wheezy times, and did not got removed with the release of Jessie. 2.3 There is a valid release-notes for s390 for Jessie, even if that port is not existing in Jessie. 2.4 In german translation (maybe others too) for arm64 and ppc64el, there seems to be an archicture name missing in the release-notes: the headline says "Hinweise zur Debian-Veröffentlichung Version 8 (Jessie) auf " (missing the arch name at the end). English is ok, though. Holger -- Created with Sylpheed 3.5.0 under D E B I A N L I N U X 8 . 0 " J E S S I E " . Registered Linux User #311290 - https://linuxcounter.net/
Re: Please update Ports wiki page
On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > The Ports wiki page (https://www.debian.org/ports/) appears to be out > of date. Its causing confusion among users and maintainers. For > example, a few bugs were reported for Sparc even though Tokarev, a > QEMU--static maintainer, states its no longer supported. > > Spark should probably be labelled as discontinued. I've CCed the SPARC porters, hopefully they can come up with a patch for this. I expect they would be interested to hear about bugs in qemu so they can fix them. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
