Re: [Stretch] Status for architecture qualification
On 2016-06-05 8:56 AM, Steven Chamberlain wrote: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >I have invested lots of time and effort to get sparc64 into a usable state in Debian. >We are close to 11.000 installed packages. Missing packages include Firefox, >Thunderbird/Icedove, golang and LibreOffice to name the most important ones. Is there some way to define 'core'[0] packages as blockers for testing migration, and arch release qualification; but other packages not? Many of these ports would be useful if just a base system was released, and preferably having stable/security updates for that part (otherwise it is difficult for users to try it, developers to work on it, or DSA to support buildds for it; all of which are limitations on ports' further growth). I might mention that many kernel and tool chain bugs have been resolved on hppa since we joined ports. Total source package count is now close to 11100, although this fluctuates. Using this measure we are at the same level as alpha, ppc64 and sparc64. SMP systems are stable and run reliably as buildd machines. Even if we increased our relative package count, we don't have the manpower to re-qualify as a release architecture. However, I like Steve's suggestion. Helge effectively defined a set of core packages for hppa when he set up a new jessie-based install disk a few months ago. This is currently available at . I tend to think this should be done within the context of Debian ports. Dave -- John David Anglin dave.ang...@bell.net
Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags
On 23-Nov-13, at 6:35 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Crossing my fingers! It's been sad to see the number of up-to-date packages in hppa dropping over the time. It should be going up now. Dave -- John David Anglin dave.ang...@bell.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-sparc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/blu0-smtp50b10a8a25fb6dfae41df297...@phx.gbl
Re: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing
Hi, Although I'm not a DD/DM, I currently do the majority of the Debian unstable package builds for parisc. As noted by Helge, these are available at www.parisc-linux.org . While not fully complete, the archive contains several thousand packages that are constantly being updated. We are close to restarting a parisc buildd... I perform a small amount of porting (e.g., webkitgtk, qt4-x11, ...) and bug reporting. This has reduced the number of packages which need changes to build on parisc. I'm also a parisc GCC and binutils maintainer. In the past year or so, I spent a significant amount of time working on parisc cache related issues in the linux kernel. I support this activity with three parisc servers and one workstation. In my spare time, I do embedded software and electronic design. Regards, John David (Dave) Anglin On 5-Sep-13, at 5:21 PM, Helge Deller wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I am not currently a porter but I would like to be one for the architecture parisc/hppa. I currently have lots of parisc hardware (5 workstations and 4 servers), all currently running debian unstable from our own debian repository at www.parisc-linux.org. My involvement for debian-parisc so far: - - I was one of the initiators of parisc-linux port back in 1999. - - I have continuous worked on the ports since then. - - I'm currently one of the two official linux kernel maintainers for the parisc port at kernel.org. - - I've fixed quite some debian bugs reported for parisc in the past, including locking functions in gcc, KDE fixes, udev fixes and many more. - - I do have a strong linux developer background (C/C++, Assembler) and was formerly a developer at a major linux distributor. - - I'm maintaining the parisc-linux website and wikis. I am not a DD/DM but would like to become one. At last, I would be happy if parisc could become again a supported platform in the debian-ports repositories for the lifetime of Jessie. parisc was dropped with debian squeeze, because there were quite some stability issues with the Linux kernel at that time. Currently, upstream kernel 3.10 (stable) and kernel 3.11 do work reliable on all major machines. -- Helge Deller On 09/01/2013 09:33 AM, Niels Thykier wrote: Hi, As we announced in [LAST-BITS], we would like to get a better idea of that status of the ports, to make an informed decision about which port can be released with jessie. One of the steps is to get an overview of which of the porters are (still) active for each port. Once the results from the role-call are in, we will request other information about the status of the ports. In the meantime, feel free to update and collect info about the ports in the Debian wiki[WIKI]. If you are (or intend to become) an active porter for the lifetime of jessie, then please send a signed email explaining your involvement in the port to the Release Team debian-rele...@lists.debian.org before 1st of October 2013. Please explain the level of your involvement in the port. Feel free to use the following template as your reply: Hi, I am an active porter for the following architectures and I intend to continue this for the lifetime of the jessie release: For ARCH, I - test (most|all) packages on this architecture - fix toolchain issues - triage arch-specific bugs - fix arch-related bugs - maintain buildds - ... I am a DD|I am a DM|I am not a DD/DM YOUR NAME Niels, on behalf of the release team [LAST-BITS] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2013/08/msg6.html [WIKI] https://wiki.debian.org/ArchiveQualification/Jessie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSKPXJAAoJEIfJwVG1Hjhk1BsH/3nhr6HjGwpGnc6NnQxV3KA2 95LNye6Fi7aOh5NWGrjn8c3fmyJcoHdQFAMOIIulGZW6gLAeu1cX9Y16OAzMKP/H LTCvq0Q8yzl/U75+NKgz9rdozsXds43rmuyBJIZdypGXKjWEIkRz/ISzOL4+hdqh W+HoYWG/fqCsdhJMiUIIUQ7BW6kadJmoi3L5dZBBwLD9bHLY6lCIT4JEdDXKZrQ9 NPIYhEDfCIJl4yS982Q76SwqEkCYG84f0Egez66ADuazCjqGWkrI6EBzOeDvgV26 wdfekcU/Wx3LcFDBnd8clMG/MdmxxQu7c915Uv23DejD0QWVUlimFSTfWI8v59k= =htC/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- John David Anglin dave.ang...@bell.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-sparc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/blu0-smtp4079aa5b84535dc5ec3a7397...@phx.gbl
Re: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing (Status update)
On 21-Sep-13, at 7:23 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: I'll continue testing/software development activity on ia64 for the Jessie cycle, and more generally, until Debian drops ia64. I'm already waiting for Wayland on ia64 and other big updates. So please, keep ia64 in the bandwagon ;-) But I don't think ia64 is well-supported even in wheezy. The kernel doesn't boot on some common machines and no-one seems to be able to fix it. I don't believe this for a minute. This is about Debian and it's ability to attract capable porters. I seem to recall that a recent Wayland build is in the unstable parisc archive... Dave -- John David Anglin dave.ang...@bell.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-sparc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/blu0-smtp95e95ff163518fb536728097...@phx.gbl
Re: Current and upcoming toolchain changes for jessie
Hi Aurelien, On 18-Jun-13, at 6:05 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote: This is true that they have recently contacted me through another email address, but I haven't found time to work on that. Just stay tuned. That's great news. Helge and I have been working away as best we can to maintain the port. I know everybody is busy and this is a significant effort. Dave -- John David Anglin dave.ang...@bell.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-sparc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/blu0-smtp54755f6f47f39a181d6a697...@phx.gbl
Re: GCC-4.5 as the default for (at least some) architectures
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Matthias Klose d...@debian.org wrote: I'll make gcc-4.5 the default for (at least some) architectures within th= e next two weeks before more transitions start. =A0GCC-4.5 is already used as th= e default compiler for almost any other distribution, so there shouldn't be many su= rprises on at least the common architectures. =A0About 50% of the build failures = exposed by GCC-4.5 are fixed [1]. =A0I didn't see issues on amd64 and i386, armel (although optimized for a different processor) and powerpc (some object f= iles linked into shared libs had to be built as pic). As the maintainer file for the ports in GCC is a bit outdated, I'd like t= o ask which architectures should do the switch together with the four architect= ures mentioned above, and which not, and which ones should be better delayed, = or dropped. Dave, What's your opinion on switching to GCC 4.5 for HPPA? Do it! I have built glibc with it and all my recent kernel have been with 4.5. I'm not aware of any new issues with 4.5 and a number of things are fixed. For kernel builds, the following patch must be included: 2010-12-18 John David Anglin dave.ang...@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca PR target/46915 * config/pa/pa.c (branch_to_delay_slot_p): Use next_active_insn instead of next_real_insn. Search forward checking for both ASM_INPUT and ASM_OPERANDS asms until exit condition is found. (branch_needs_nop_p): Likewise. (use_skip_p): New function. (output_cbranch): Use use_skip_p. (output_bb, output_bvb): Likewise. There are some other bug fixes in 4.6 that might need back porting. We also need this binutils change: 2011-02-18 John David Anglin dave.ang...@nrc-cnnrc.gc.ca PR ld/12376 emulparams/hppalinux.sh (DATA_ADDR): Define. (SHLIB_DATA_ADDR): Likewise. This should eliminate cache issues arising from non equivalent aliasing. Hopefully, the above will help resolve some of the build and kernel issues that blocked squeeze. I personally don't know what the critical blockers were. If they involve GCC or binutils, I'm willing to take a look. I'm sure a number of things have been magically fixed by updates to the middle-end. The biggest issue is the callee copies args on HPPA and this differs from most other targets. Regards, Dave -- J. David Anglin dave.ang...@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca National Research Council of Canada (613) 990-0752 (FAX: 952-6602) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-sparc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110307013751.74c8c5...@hiauly1.hia.nrc.ca