Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-15 Thread Nate Campi
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:12:24PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> One other thing.  I've heard that the performance of Ultrasparc Linux
> is not expected to be as good as Solaris because user-mode Sparc
> binaries run in a 32 bit mode.  How do you feel about how well Linux
> runs on the Ultrasparc?

Solaris 8 vs Debian Ultrasparc: running tinydns on netra t1 105 on the
same box (tinydns compiled with gcc 2.95 on both OS's with no special
flags, just 'make && make setup check') Linux exactly doubled the number
of queries/sec as measured with "queryperf" from the BIND9 tarball.

This is probably the extreme since tinydns does a lot of context
switching (stat the db once for every query answered), and linux is
reportedly much better at context switching than solaris.

Of course in solaris's defense, I've upgraded heavily loaded 220R's
running solaris 8 to 420R's (just move the disks to a box with 2x the
memory and processors) and the CPU utlization and load average exactly
halved as a result. Solaris scales just about linearly with more
processors, where linux (2.4 anyways) does not. Best tool for the job I
always say ;)

That said I've moved a lot of my infrastructure from solaris/sparc to
debian linux (both x86 and sparc) and never looked back. In fact UE2's
and other older boxes seem to be able to do a hell of a lot more work
running linux.
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Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-14 Thread Jamie Lenehan
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:12:24PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> One other thing.  I've heard that the performance of Ultrasparc Linux
> is not expected to be as good as Solaris because user-mode Sparc
> binaries run in a 32 bit mode.  How do you feel about how well Linux

As far as I know solaris also uses a 32-bit user mode. Checking...
Use, all the binaries I check on solaris-8 ar 32-bit only. The
commerical products I work on use 64-bit kernel drivers and 32-bit
user-mode as well.

For most situations 32-bit user mode is probably better due to the
smaller memory requiements.

> runs on the Ultrasparc?

It *feels* a lot better working on the machines. How that translates
when doing real work I don't know yet. And when I was running on
Ultra-5 hardware at work it was so good it's not funny tohave a
useable console with a decent number of columns and rows and decent
scrolling performance!

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Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-14 Thread Jamie Lenehan
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:11:14PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 04:05:03AM +1000, Jamie Lenehan wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 09:03:19AM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> > > > I just tftpbooted the images from
> > > > 
> > > >   http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/
[...]
> It didn't even get that far.  The firmware downloaded the image and
> then said it was invalid.

Using the sun4u/tftpboot.img:

 [nynaeve][ 1:42PM]/tftpboot%> ls -l
 total 9140
 lrwx--1 root root   30 Apr 30 22:20 CBD91D9B -> 
debian-bcollins-2002-10-05.img
 lrwx--1 root root   30 May  4 20:24 CBD91D9C -> 
debian-bcollins-2002-10-05.img
 -rw-r--r--1 lenehan  lenehan   4741476 Apr 30 22:18 
debian-bcollins-2002-10-05.img
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  4591072 May 19  2002 
debian-woody-3.0.23-2002-05-21.img
 [nynaeve][ 1:42PM]/tftpboot%> md5sum debian-bcollins-2002-10-05.img
 41777b6d9f81ebc249bf96894d2de06c  debian-bcollins-2002-10-05.img

[...]
> > Hmmm... That doesn't make sense. I thought 3 had to be the entire
> > disk? If you look at my partition table above 3 is the entire disk,
> > so 1, 2 and 4 actually overap with 3.
> 
> Why would Linux care about partition three being the whole disk?  I
> can imagine that Solaris might.

I have no idea, I just assumed that was the one true way ;)
A quick google seems to suggest that you are correct and it can go
anwyhere.
I was just working on theory that you seemed to have troubles with
accessing the disk after booting, which suggests that maybe it's
something in the way it's setup.

[...]
> > 
> >  2.5.70 #3 Sun Jun 15 03:08:48 EST 2003 sparc64 GNU/Linux
> 
> That could be part of the problem.  I was running linux-2.4.20.  The
> machine I had was a 500MHz model.

I was running 2.4.19 until a few minutes before sending that e-mail.
I cannot see any real reason why it wouldn't work though.

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Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-14 Thread Marc Singer
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 04:05:03AM +1000, Jamie Lenehan wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 09:03:19AM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> > > I just tftpbooted the images from
> > > 
> > >   http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/
> > >
> > > The standard boot images would crash while booting.
> > > 
> > 
> > That's helpful.  I found that the stock images were not recognized by
> > the OpenBoot firmware.  Not exactly a crash, but neither were they
> > successful.
> 
> Oh, the boot image at the above site doesn't support the NIC's on X1.

It didn't even get that far.  The firmware downloaded the image and
then said it was invalid.

> I removed the HDD and put it in another machine and loaded the
> basedebs.tar, drivers.tgz, rescue.bin files manually. I then
> tftpbooted the boot disk and installed from the HDD. The extra
> drivers (again from above site) included a tulip driver which does
> work and can be used to install everything else, although it will
> order the NIC's in reverse order, so eth0 is network port 1 and eth1
> is network port 0.

Well that's a bit hardcore.  Haven't we gotten past this behavior, yet?

> > because that's where solaris put it.  I don't have the machine, so I
> > cannot reprint it here.  I know that I only had two partitions, 1 and
> > 3.  1 is most of the disk and 3 has about 1G for swap.
> 
> Hmmm... That doesn't make sense. I thought 3 had to be the entire
> disk? If you look at my partition table above 3 is the entire disk,
> so 1, 2 and 4 actually overap with 3.

Why would Linux care about partition three being the whole disk?  I
can imagine that Solaris might.

All I did was replace partition three, which was swap on Solaris, with
a Linux swap partition.  I then converted the first partition to the
reset of the disk.

> This machine is a:
> 
>  Sun Netra X1 (UltraSPARC-IIe 400MHz), No Keyboard
>  OpenBoot 4.0, 640 MB memory installed, Serial #50737376.
> 
> and as of two minutes ago I have it running:
> 
>  2.5.70 #3 Sun Jun 15 03:08:48 EST 2003 sparc64 GNU/Linux

That could be part of the problem.  I was running linux-2.4.20.  The
machine I had was a 500MHz model.




Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-14 Thread Marc Singer
One other thing.  I've heard that the performance of Ultrasparc Linux
is not expected to be as good as Solaris because user-mode Sparc
binaries run in a 32 bit mode.  How do you feel about how well Linux
runs on the Ultrasparc?



Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-14 Thread Jamie Lenehan
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 09:03:19AM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> > I just tftpbooted the images from
> > 
> >   http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/
> >
> > The standard boot images would crash while booting.
> > 
> 
> That's helpful.  I found that the stock images were not recognized by
> the OpenBoot firmware.  Not exactly a crash, but neither were they
> successful.

Oh, the boot image at the above site doesn't support the NIC's on X1.
I removed the HDD and put it in another machine and loaded the
basedebs.tar, drivers.tgz, rescue.bin files manually. I then
tftpbooted the boot disk and installed from the HDD. The extra
drivers (again from above site) included a tulip driver which does
work and can be used to install everything else, although it will
order the NIC's in reverse order, so eth0 is network port 1 and eth1
is network port 0.

[...]
> >   /dev/hda1 0  5201   2621304   83  Linux native
> >   /dev/hda2  u   5201  6241524160   82  Linux swap
> >   /dev/hda3 0 38790  195501605  Whole disk
> >   /dev/hda4  6241 38790  16404696   83  Linux native
> 
> Interesting question.  In fact, I didn't put it first.  It's third

Ok. I think there's probably if swap is put first, so not having it
first is fine ;)

> because that's where solaris put it.  I don't have the machine, so I
> cannot reprint it here.  I know that I only had two partitions, 1 and
> 3.  1 is most of the disk and 3 has about 1G for swap.

Hmmm... That doesn't make sense. I thought 3 had to be the entire
disk? If you look at my partition table above 3 is the entire disk,
so 1, 2 and 4 actually overap with 3.

> The only other thing I can think of trying is the tftp image you
> suggest.  Have you been successful with booting the Debian/Sparc
> install CDs?

I don't have any IDE CD-ROM drives here to try that with, so no.

This machine is a:

 Sun Netra X1 (UltraSPARC-IIe 400MHz), No Keyboard
 OpenBoot 4.0, 640 MB memory installed, Serial #50737376.

and as of two minutes ago I have it running:

 2.5.70 #3 Sun Jun 15 03:08:48 EST 2003 sparc64 GNU/Linux

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Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-14 Thread Marc Singer
> I just tftpbooted the images from
> 
>   http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/
>
> The standard boot images would crash while booting.
> 

That's helpful.  I found that the stock images were not recognized by
the OpenBoot firmware.  Not exactly a crash, but neither were they
successful.

> What's you partion table look like? Didn't put swap first for
> example? This is mine:
> 
>   [aviendha][11:35PM]~%> sudo fdisk /dev/hda
> 
>   Command (m for help): p
> 
>   Disk /dev/hda (Sun disk label): 16 heads, 63 sectors, 38790 cylinders
>   Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes
> 
>  Device FlagStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
>   /dev/hda1 0  5201   2621304   83  Linux native
>   /dev/hda2  u   5201  6241524160   82  Linux swap
>   /dev/hda3 0 38790  195501605  Whole disk
>   /dev/hda4  6241 38790  16404696   83  Linux native

Interesting question.  In fact, I didn't put it first.  It's third
because that's where solaris put it.  I don't have the machine, so I
cannot reprint it here.  I know that I only had two partitions, 1 and
3.  1 is most of the disk and 3 has about 1G for swap.

The only other thing I can think of trying is the tftp image you
suggest.  Have you been successful with booting the Debian/Sparc
install CDs?

Cheers.



Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-13 Thread Hans Spaans
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 07:59:41AM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> I've done more exploration.
> 
> Someone suggested that the problem is that the CDROM is an IDE master.
> When I change the CDROM to a slave, the Netra X1 refuses to recognize
> it.  In other words, the Netra *requires* that the CDROM be an IDE
> master.

Just skip those damn cd-drives. I stopped using/ordering them a long
time ago. The normal drives are just working fine, but those in the 1U
machines are just blenders when you here them.
 
> I notice that both activity lights on the network interfaces flash
> when the driver is loaded.  Is this expected behavior?  The flashing
> stops when I insert a network cable connected to a hub/switch.  

Yes, it is and you see on the console why. If you hate the flashes,
just bring the interface(s) down.

> At this point, I'm out of ideas.  Thanks for the help.

Just set up a jumpstart-server. You need rarp, tftp and the images
from Ben if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-12 Thread Nate Campi
Not that this is much help, but I've had all kinds of problems getting
debian installed onto netra t1's. I just do all my installations on a
UE2 and move the disks over to my 220Rs, 420Rs and netra t1s. It always
works perfectly. 

In fact I have a E6500 I might ship out a woody disk to the datacenter
it's in and ask them to boot it while I sit on the console port
remotely. I would be pretty cool to see 20-some processors on a debian
linux box ;)

On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 09:43:37AM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 09:28:25AM -0700, Patrick Morris wrote:
> > Have you tried it as neither a master nor a slave?  That really ought to 
> > work.
> 
> Yes, I tried every jumper combination.
> 
> By the way, do you have an Netra X1?
> 
> > 
> > Marc Singer wrote:
> > 
> > >I've done more exploration.
> > >
> > >Someone suggested that the problem is that the CDROM is an IDE master.
> > >When I change the CDROM to a slave, the Netra X1 refuses to recognize
> > >it.  In other words, the Netra *requires* that the CDROM be an IDE
> > >master.
> > >
> > >I notice that both activity lights on the network interfaces flash
> > >when the driver is loaded.  Is this expected behavior?  The flashing
> > >stops when I insert a network cable connected to a hub/switch.  
> > >
> > >At this point, I'm out of ideas.  Thanks for the help.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-12 Thread Marc Singer
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 09:28:25AM -0700, Patrick Morris wrote:
> Have you tried it as neither a master nor a slave?  That really ought to 
> work.

Yes, I tried every jumper combination.

By the way, do you have an Netra X1?

> 
> Marc Singer wrote:
> 
> >I've done more exploration.
> >
> >Someone suggested that the problem is that the CDROM is an IDE master.
> >When I change the CDROM to a slave, the Netra X1 refuses to recognize
> >it.  In other words, the Netra *requires* that the CDROM be an IDE
> >master.
> >
> >I notice that both activity lights on the network interfaces flash
> >when the driver is loaded.  Is this expected behavior?  The flashing
> >stops when I insert a network cable connected to a hub/switch.  
> >
> >At this point, I'm out of ideas.  Thanks for the help.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> 



Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-12 Thread Patrick Morris
Have you tried it as neither a master nor a slave?  That really ought to 
work.


Marc Singer wrote:


I've done more exploration.

Someone suggested that the problem is that the CDROM is an IDE master.
When I change the CDROM to a slave, the Netra X1 refuses to recognize
it.  In other words, the Netra *requires* that the CDROM be an IDE
master.

I notice that both activity lights on the network interfaces flash
when the driver is loaded.  Is this expected behavior?  The flashing
stops when I insert a network cable connected to a hub/switch.  


At this point, I'm out of ideas.  Thanks for the help.



 






Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-12 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:55:24PM -0700, Patrick Morris wrote:
> Nope, it's not a Sparc thing, it's an IDE thing.  Maybe it depends on 
> the motherboard, but just last week I was building a OpenBSD box out of 
> spare parts that wouldn't boot because the CD on the second IDE was 
> jumpered as a master.

It's not an IDE thing, it's a CDROM thing.  Some just don't want to be
masters.  I don't know why they even have jumpers.  Others are OK being
masters.  I think most recent drives can handle being masters, but I
could be wrong.  In my experience it's pretty much a toss-up whether a
given drive will work when jumpered as master.

noah

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Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-12 Thread Marc Singer
I've done more exploration.

Someone suggested that the problem is that the CDROM is an IDE master.
When I change the CDROM to a slave, the Netra X1 refuses to recognize
it.  In other words, the Netra *requires* that the CDROM be an IDE
master.

I notice that both activity lights on the network interfaces flash
when the driver is loaded.  Is this expected behavior?  The flashing
stops when I insert a network cable connected to a hub/switch.  

At this point, I'm out of ideas.  Thanks for the help.




Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-10 Thread Patrick Morris
Nope, it's not a Sparc thing, it's an IDE thing.  Maybe it depends on 
the motherboard, but just last week I was building a OpenBSD box out of 
spare parts that wouldn't boot because the CD on the second IDE was 
jumpered as a master.


Marc Singer wrote:


Interesting.  I've never had a problem with it on IA32 motherboards.
Is this specific to the Sparc implementation, or have I always been
doing things wrong?

On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:41:31PM -0700, Patrick Morris wrote:
 

That may be your problem right there.  If nothing else is on the 
controller, it shouldn't be a master.


Yank all the master/slave/cable select jumpers off and give that a shot.

   






Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-10 Thread Marc Singer
Interesting.  I've never had a problem with it on IA32 motherboards.
Is this specific to the Sparc implementation, or have I always been
doing things wrong?

On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 02:41:31PM -0700, Patrick Morris wrote:
> That may be your problem right there.  If nothing else is on the 
> controller, it shouldn't be a master.
> 
> Yank all the master/slave/cable select jumpers off and give that a shot.
> 



Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-10 Thread Patrick Morris
That may be your problem right there.  If nothing else is on the 
controller, it shouldn't be a master.


Yank all the master/slave/cable select jumpers off and give that a shot.

Marc Singer wrote:


The CDROM is the master on the second controller.  There is nothing
else on that chain.

On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 12:19:09PM -0700, Andrew Sharp wrote:
 


On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 07:18:29AM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
   


On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 01:05:29PM +0200, Ulrich Teichert wrote:
 


How many SCSI-devices are on your bus and how are they wired together?

   


The Netra X1 is an IDE box.  There are two IDE controllers and two
drives.  I pulled one of them and installed an IDE CDROM.

Now, I'm suspicious of the CDROM since it is the only foreign piece of
hardware.  I've tried a couple without success.  However, if I've been
fortunate enough to install the system, then it appears to be OK when
I remove the CDROM.
 


Is it the Master/Slave jumper settings on the CDROM drive?

a
   




 






Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-10 Thread Marc Singer
The CDROM is the master on the second controller.  There is nothing
else on that chain.

On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 12:19:09PM -0700, Andrew Sharp wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 07:18:29AM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 01:05:29PM +0200, Ulrich Teichert wrote:
> > > How many SCSI-devices are on your bus and how are they wired together?
> > > 
> > 
> > The Netra X1 is an IDE box.  There are two IDE controllers and two
> > drives.  I pulled one of them and installed an IDE CDROM.
> > 
> > Now, I'm suspicious of the CDROM since it is the only foreign piece of
> > hardware.  I've tried a couple without success.  However, if I've been
> > fortunate enough to install the system, then it appears to be OK when
> > I remove the CDROM.
> 
> Is it the Master/Slave jumper settings on the CDROM drive?
> 
> a



Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-10 Thread Andrew Sharp
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 07:18:29AM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 01:05:29PM +0200, Ulrich Teichert wrote:
> > How many SCSI-devices are on your bus and how are they wired together?
> > 
> 
> The Netra X1 is an IDE box.  There are two IDE controllers and two
> drives.  I pulled one of them and installed an IDE CDROM.
> 
> Now, I'm suspicious of the CDROM since it is the only foreign piece of
> hardware.  I've tried a couple without success.  However, if I've been
> fortunate enough to install the system, then it appears to be OK when
> I remove the CDROM.

Is it the Master/Slave jumper settings on the CDROM drive?

a



Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-09 Thread Marc Singer
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 01:05:29PM +0200, Ulrich Teichert wrote:
> How many SCSI-devices are on your bus and how are they wired together?
> 

The Netra X1 is an IDE box.  There are two IDE controllers and two
drives.  I pulled one of them and installed an IDE CDROM.

Now, I'm suspicious of the CDROM since it is the only foreign piece of
hardware.  I've tried a couple without success.  However, if I've been
fortunate enough to install the system, then it appears to be OK when
I remove the CDROM.



Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-09 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 10:31:24PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 07:04:51PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 04:50:36PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 03:40:59PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 12:50:49PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> > > > > I've performed the install several times without producing a
> > > > > successful result.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > The system appears to install everything correctly, but once I boot to
> > > > > the hard drive to finish the setup, there appear some mysterious
> > > > > errors.
> > > > > 
> > > > > When I used the ext3 filesystem, I got kernel messages about the
> > > > > journal being aborted.  I switched hard drives and filesystems (now
> 
> ^^

Missed that. I'm at a loss. I know people have successfully installed on
X1's before, so this is a special case. You'll need to try some things
on your own. Maybe try reseating the memory modules, or switching them
around, or going down to just one.

> > > > > ext2) and found that the system wouldn't run because of segment
> > > > > faults.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Has anyone been successful with the X1?
> > > > 
> > > > It's strange that you can run the install, but not the system, since
> > > > they use the exact same kernel.
> > > 
> > > I think it is strange, too.  I'm not sure that it is a kernel issue.
> > > I'm thinking it is some sort of odd hardware problem.  Perhaps,
> > > something triggered by the reboot.
> > 
> > Do you have another drive to test?
> > 
> > > Have you experience with Debian on SPARC?
> > 
> > You could say that.
> 
> Why the dissembling?

Not sure what you mean.

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Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-09 Thread Ulrich Teichert
Hi,

[del]
>I think it is strange, too.  I'm not sure that it is a kernel issue.
>I'm thinking it is some sort of odd hardware problem.  Perhaps,
>something triggered by the reboot.
[del]

It may not help you, but I had the same symptoms once with a SGI Indy:
It could netboot, install (ext2) and everything was fine. When I rebooted
to finish the install, the bootloader found nothing to boot or crashed
right away.

In this case it turned out that I had jumpered a CD-ROM to parity ON on
the same SCSI-bus as the local harddisk I was installing on. This caused
massive corruption, 'cause the controler was switched to parity OFF.
(before I found out I had already pulled out *some* hair...)

How many SCSI-devices are on your bus and how are they wired together?

HTH,
Uli
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Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-09 Thread Marc Singer
On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 07:04:51PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 04:50:36PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 03:40:59PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 12:50:49PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> > > > I've performed the install several times without producing a
> > > > successful result.  
> > > > 
> > > > The system appears to install everything correctly, but once I boot to
> > > > the hard drive to finish the setup, there appear some mysterious
> > > > errors.
> > > > 
> > > > When I used the ext3 filesystem, I got kernel messages about the
> > > > journal being aborted.  I switched hard drives and filesystems (now

^^

> > > > ext2) and found that the system wouldn't run because of segment
> > > > faults.
> > > > 
> > > > Has anyone been successful with the X1?
> > > 
> > > It's strange that you can run the install, but not the system, since
> > > they use the exact same kernel.
> > 
> > I think it is strange, too.  I'm not sure that it is a kernel issue.
> > I'm thinking it is some sort of odd hardware problem.  Perhaps,
> > something triggered by the reboot.
> 
> Do you have another drive to test?
> 
> > Have you experience with Debian on SPARC?
> 
> You could say that.

Why the dissembling?
 



Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-08 Thread Marc Singer
On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 03:40:59PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 12:50:49PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> > I've performed the install several times without producing a
> > successful result.  
> > 
> > The system appears to install everything correctly, but once I boot to
> > the hard drive to finish the setup, there appear some mysterious
> > errors.
> > 
> > When I used the ext3 filesystem, I got kernel messages about the
> > journal being aborted.  I switched hard drives and filesystems (now
> > ext2) and found that the system wouldn't run because of segment
> > faults.
> > 
> > Has anyone been successful with the X1?
> 
> It's strange that you can run the install, but not the system, since
> they use the exact same kernel.

I think it is strange, too.  I'm not sure that it is a kernel issue.
I'm thinking it is some sort of odd hardware problem.  Perhaps,
something triggered by the reboot.

Have you experience with Debian on SPARC?

> 
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Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-08 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 04:50:36PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 03:40:59PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 12:50:49PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> > > I've performed the install several times without producing a
> > > successful result.  
> > > 
> > > The system appears to install everything correctly, but once I boot to
> > > the hard drive to finish the setup, there appear some mysterious
> > > errors.
> > > 
> > > When I used the ext3 filesystem, I got kernel messages about the
> > > journal being aborted.  I switched hard drives and filesystems (now
> > > ext2) and found that the system wouldn't run because of segment
> > > faults.
> > > 
> > > Has anyone been successful with the X1?
> > 
> > It's strange that you can run the install, but not the system, since
> > they use the exact same kernel.
> 
> I think it is strange, too.  I'm not sure that it is a kernel issue.
> I'm thinking it is some sort of odd hardware problem.  Perhaps,
> something triggered by the reboot.

Do you have another drive to test?

> Have you experience with Debian on SPARC?

You could say that.

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Re: Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-08 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 12:50:49PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> I've performed the install several times without producing a
> successful result.  
> 
> The system appears to install everything correctly, but once I boot to
> the hard drive to finish the setup, there appear some mysterious
> errors.
> 
> When I used the ext3 filesystem, I got kernel messages about the
> journal being aborted.  I switched hard drives and filesystems (now
> ext2) and found that the system wouldn't run because of segment
> faults.
> 
> Has anyone been successful with the X1?

It's strange that you can run the install, but not the system, since
they use the exact same kernel.

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Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/
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Debian 3.0 on Netra X1, installs but won't run

2003-06-08 Thread Marc Singer
I've performed the install several times without producing a
successful result.  

The system appears to install everything correctly, but once I boot to
the hard drive to finish the setup, there appear some mysterious
errors.

When I used the ext3 filesystem, I got kernel messages about the
journal being aborted.  I switched hard drives and filesystems (now
ext2) and found that the system wouldn't run because of segment
faults.

Has anyone been successful with the X1?