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At 14:07 -0400 10/13/03, Ben Collins wrote: RedHat doesn't acknowledge Aurora; SuSE openly doesn't support theirs; Mandrake keeps theirs around on the ftp server. All are community supported. Difference is, guys doing the ports actually have the machines. Not that I'm blasting Debian; you see, they have a guy in change of X, and guy in charge of gcc... Not a guy in charge of Sparcs, Alphas, etc. The X maintainers truly don't have sparcs, that's why they mess up. And of course, the code COMPILES... Huh? Brandon certainly does have an UltraSPARC 5. Oh, and I am the guy in charge of Debian SPARC, for all intents and purposes. You should not have said, since now I am going to ask you if you know who could help me finding out why I cannot put debian in my SS1+ ;)
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Mauricio wrote: You should not have said, since now I am going to ask you if you know who could help me finding out why I cannot put debian in my SS1+ ;) Back in AncientTimes I had Debian Sparc running on a 1+. Not pretty, but it worked. Can't remember if I had X Working tho as for old sparcs, Sparc 5 and 20's seem to work well, I don't have much trouble with Debian on those... nor my Ultra 5 :-). --Chris
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:41:03 EDT, Mauricio writes: You should not have said, since now I am going to ask you if you know who could help me finding out why I cannot put debian in my SS1+ ;) As I think I've already stated recently, it _is_ perfectly possible to get Debian Woody to run on an SS1/+. I've got one playing DNS- and news-server. But as for me that involved installing Debian 2.0 and doing the painful upgrade through each release until Woody, it may be neither for the impatient nor the faint of heart. It may also just not be worth the hassle, as BenC has announced that sun4c won't be supported for much longer. cheers, rw -- -- I knew that kicking my coffee habit would be a bad idea. -- You poor, poor boy... no wonder you're out of sync with reality. -- - Matthew Garrett and Peter da Silva pgpjZm7La47kQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Im new and probably stupid so please be patient :-) I also cant spell, so pleas forgive ! I'm not a troll - and im not after a fight, I just wanted to share with people my experience of installing Debian on sparc while it was still fresh in my mind ! Its a long rambling account - sorry ! I just offer it as feedback for the people in charge :-) *Begin rant ! Last week I was given a couple of Sparc Ultra1 Creator 3d workstations (saved from the skip !) I plugged in and sat down to learn Solaris 2.6 Wow - that was dull ... It was a minimum install, no C compiler - nothing much going on in X ... I got bored quickly. I'm running Redhat 9 on a couple of 1.3Ghz Athlons as my main machines, so I would go for linux. Did some research, found I could use Debian or errr not ! I don't have a SCSI cdrom and couldn't figure out how to remove the lid. I undid screws and shook things, nothing happened so I put them back in :-) So I downloaded the Debian install tftpboot image, and after some poking around and swearing got it to boot from the server. It was a typical Unix fight, but I won the war. It took a while :-) I shutdown solaris (got a boot prompt) took a wild guess from my limited experience with suns (sun3s years ago before they hit my skip !) and type 'net boot' or was it 'boot net' - you get the idea. And bingo - one Debian installer :-) It even looked good ! I opted to re-partition, created a / partition (most of the disk) and swap (what was left). It installed the base image, so far so good. Then it asked what type of machine I wanted - I said a 'desktop' It downloaded for a few hours and all was great. The net connection wasn't fantastic and it had to re-try a few things, but it all looked good in the end. Reboot ... one base linux install. With lots ... of nothing No X - no X utils ? Ho hum . It did have ssh so logged in from my main machine and did apt-get install synaptic - and started the dumb man install utility ! Got X and kernel source for the kernel version it was running. Then the fun starts ! X is configured for god knows what, it wont start :-[Doesn't matter what I try I cant get bastard thing to go into graphics mode. Much poking around with google on my main machine I find I should use xf86configure - it runs ! My problems are solved - NOT ! What a complete sack of shit that was, I wasted a good hour creating XF86Config files that don't work- time to read some stuff on Xfree86.org 40 mins later I find I can do 'XFree86 -configure' or something similar. Again this does something ! But nothing good :-( Lots of reading later I find I need the sunffb device or something .. xf86config didn't even offer this ! I now have a graphics screen :-) Yea ... i'm done ! nope ! Keyboard doesn't work .. all the scan codes are wrong. Another hours google hacking later I have 9 lines - 9 F lines (its keyboard, how much configuration does a keyboard need) added to XF86Config. I now have keys ! Yippe !!! Just not the correct keys :-( Almost, but not quite. I take a wild guess at the config and end up with keyboard setup that works and mouse that works. Ra ! Ra ! Ra ! Time to play X - xdm (gdm or whatever) works. I login I apt-get some stuff no sound ... no video playback :-( I compile a kernel or 10... I could write a 1000 lines on how this didn't work, but a brief summary is I could get a kernel that worked, but ethernet didnt behave and dhcpd didnt work with it. I gave up and found a pre-compiled ultra kernel from apt, installed it. Mostly works, no smbmount support :-( but its a good one. I then install my favourite bits (pan,evolution etc). The apt versions are looking very old, I assume the kde/gnome libs aren't very new and porting is a problem. Making sound work was another 3 hours of reading, compiling modules, and configuring bits. Mostly because I cant find a nice simple document to tell us new to sun people what we need. Got it working in the end, but all in all it was much more of a fight than I expected, it doesn't compare well with my experience of linux on Intel. End rant ! :-) That said now its configured its ok - seems to work well :-) Not being a Debian user before now I have no idea who maintains the apt archive, do they need help porting or is it just a slow process to update? Jon
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On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 05:55:44PM +0100, Jonathan Andrews wrote: Im new and probably stupid so please be patient :-) I also cant spell, so pleas forgive ! I'm not a troll - and im not after a fight, I just wanted to share with people my experience of installing Debian on sparc while it was still fresh in my mind ! Its a long rambling account - sorry ! I just offer it as feedback for the people in charge :-) I hate to say this, but it seems like 90% of the problems you had would have been answered in the install docs. So your wasted time was your own fault. I don't mean to be rude, but you did send this long rant about shit and crap, and I felt the need to point out your own mistake. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ WatchGuard - http://www.watchguard.com/
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On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 18:29, Bryan W. Headley wrote: Jonathan Andrews wrote: Not being a Debian user before now I have no idea who maintains the apt archive, do they need help porting or is it just a slow process to update? It's a very long story. Essentially, things get dropped regularly from configuration scripts -- like understanding that sun's have sbus frame buffer, sunmouse drivers, etc. They get a binary right, and then the stuff gets dropped again. If you know what the guys tend to do wrong, you're okay, because all the code's there. Telling them doesn't help much either; they tend to say that they don't have Sparc boxes at home. Your best bet is to offer to beta-test, or... 1) Aurora Sparc dist (RedHat 8) 2) SuSE Sparc 3) gentoo Sparc 4) Slackware Sparc 5) Mandrake (?) RedHat doesn't acknowledge Aurora; SuSE openly doesn't support theirs; Mandrake keeps theirs around on the ftp server. All are community supported. Difference is, guys doing the ports actually have the machines. Not that I'm blasting Debian; you see, they have a guy in change of X, and guy in charge of gcc... Not a guy in charge of Sparcs, Alphas, etc. The X maintainers truly don't have sparcs, that's why they mess up. And of course, the code COMPILES... Thanks for the info :-) I shake your hand as the only person this week more bitter and cynical than me :-) :-) Whats gentoo sparc like ? Has anybody had a go - if linux going to be difficult it might as well be very difficult ! Jon
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On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 18:29, Bryan W. Headley wrote: Jonathan Andrews wrote: Not being a Debian user before now I have no idea who maintains the apt archive, do they need help porting or is it just a slow process to update? It's a very long story. Essentially, things get dropped regularly from configuration scripts -- like understanding that sun's have sbus frame buffer, sunmouse drivers, etc. They get a binary right, and then the stuff gets dropped again. If you know what the guys tend to do wrong, you're okay, because all the code's there. Telling them doesn't help much either; they tend to say that they don't have Sparc boxes at home. Your best bet is to offer to beta-test, or... Whats the point of Beta testing if you imply the outcome doesn't change the distribution ? Or am I reading to much into this ? I like apt-get its good (not great ! - I cant uninstall some things for exmaple, and if I try and remove a kde like the useless knews it tries to remove KDE !). I was impressed with the online install, i've never installed an OS over a broadband connection directly onto a machine. Jon
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On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 17:59, Ben Collins wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 05:55:44PM +0100, Jonathan Andrews wrote: Im new and probably stupid so please be patient :-) I also cant spell, so pleas forgive ! I'm not a troll - and im not after a fight, I just wanted to share with people my experience of installing Debian on sparc while it was still fresh in my mind ! Its a long rambling account - sorry ! I just offer it as feedback for the people in charge :-) I hate to say this, but it seems like 90% of the problems you had would have been answered in the install docs. So your wasted time was your own fault. I don't mean to be rude, but you did send this long rant about shit and crap, and I felt the need to point out your own mistake. Well I did say i'm probably stupid ! I didnt crap once !! http://www.debian.org/ports/sparc/ But what install notes ? Is this another linux logic trap where I have to install to get the notes to tell me how to install ;-) The notes on the above link take you to the standard Debian documents, all I wanted was the sparc specific stuff. Searching debian for things like xfree86 sparc gets lots of hits, most are not relevant or German ! I've heard this is Debian type thing, its the stupid users fault for now knowing how my project/distro/system is organised ? Thats number 2 in pet hates next to read the source or its always worked like that - how is anybody with a life supposed to swallow enough of this to get started ? Jon PS Sorry for the people I've emailed directly - I didn't notice the reply-to address is the user not the list !
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RedHat doesn't acknowledge Aurora; SuSE openly doesn't support theirs; Mandrake keeps theirs around on the ftp server. All are community supported. Difference is, guys doing the ports actually have the machines. Not that I'm blasting Debian; you see, they have a guy in change of X, and guy in charge of gcc... Not a guy in charge of Sparcs, Alphas, etc. The X maintainers truly don't have sparcs, that's why they mess up. And of course, the code COMPILES... Huh? Brandon certainly does have an UltraSPARC 5. Oh, and I am the guy in charge of Debian SPARC, for all intents and purposes. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ WatchGuard - http://www.watchguard.com/
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On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 06:41:10PM +0100, Jonathan Andrews wrote: I like apt-get its good (not great ! - I cant uninstall some things for exmaple, and if I try and remove a kde like the useless knews it tries to remove KDE !). No it doesn't. It tries to remove some metapackages which are mainly useful for installing stuff. Frank
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-Original Message- From: Ben Collins On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 05:55:44PM +0100, Jonathan Andrews wrote: Im new and probably stupid so please be patient :-) I also cant spell, so pleas forgive ! I'm not a troll - and im not after a fight, I just wanted to share with people my experience of installing Debian on sparc while it was still fresh in my mind ! Its a long rambling account - sorry ! I just offer it as feedback for the people in charge :-) I hate to say this, but it seems like 90% of the problems you had would have been answered in the install docs. First install of Debian ever was on a Sun. I was very familiar with Solaris, though. But I used the install docs, and it went like a breeze, terminal and X and all... http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/install As far as released versions, you may want to check Debian's release methods...stable, testing and unstable. That should tell you a few things about the old versions thing, there are very good reasons to that. And about kernel compiles... Have you ever configured an x86 kernel? If yes, the limited number of options sor the Sparc architecture should make you confortable. Nico
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-Original Message- From: Jonathan Andrews http://www.debian.org/ports/sparc/ But what install notes ? Is this another linux logic trap where I have to install to get the notes to tell me how to install ;-) Go to http://www.debian.org/ Then in the menu select Installation manual. You will end up here: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual Then click on Installation manual for SPARC, which will take you there: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/install How tough was that? How complete can a documentation be? You more in-depth help. then I can strongly recommend the document mentionned here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2003/debian-sparc-200306/msg00278.html http://www.giac.org/practical/GCUX/Guillaume_Tamboise_GCUX.pdf Nico
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Just so everyone can see my shame ! Jon Oh wow, look. There's a link to the Install Manual in the second section of the page. How convenient. It's really extensive, and that link is to the SPARC specific install docs. Dozens of people have spent a lot of time making this docs, and providing useful links for other things people do after installs (like setting up X). Doh ! Me stupid - but also the page naughty for not sticking it in the Index at the top. Its a great document, but with all that was going on (and clicking the top index in order) - I missed it.. I read the Paragraph but didn't note it as a link, I was following the index at the top ! Jon
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On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 02:07:31PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: RedHat doesn't acknowledge Aurora; SuSE openly doesn't support theirs; Mandrake keeps theirs around on the ftp server. All are community supported. Difference is, guys doing the ports actually have the machines. Not that I'm blasting Debian; you see, they have a guy in change of X, and guy in charge of gcc... Not a guy in charge of Sparcs, Alphas, etc. If you'd come to the Linux Expo at Olympia - you would have seen Debian on a Sparc :) [Admittedly, an old Sparc20] Feel free to ask any questions that are appropriate at any Debian stand at any exhibition. If they'd wanted it as a demo. - they could have had the same distribution on my Alpha PWS 433 Debian _do_ have Alpha and Sparc developers and they keep things well up to date. I can, however, sympathise with XFree86 problems. Have fun with Debian and apt-get - the initial install's the worst part :) Andy
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, in this mail, I'll reply with a few common solutions, just like I used them myself. On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Jonathan Andrews wrote: I plugged in and sat down to learn Solaris 2.6 Wow - that was dull ... That's not really fair. From the Solaris release timeline: 1997 Solaris 2.6 is available 1998 Solaris 7 is available 2000 Solaris 8 is available 2002 Solaris 9 is available Solaris 9 comes with GCC and GNOME 1.4, if you want it to. I opted to re-partition, created a / partition (most of the disk) and swap (what was left). You should have made /dev/hda3 the 'Whole disk' partition, like for example at [1]. It's documented at [2], but I think it deserves more attention. It should be at [3] too. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2001/debian-sparc-200110/msg00033.html [2] http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch-partitioning.en.html#s6.4 [3] http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch-partitioning.en.html#s6.3 X is configured for god knows what, it wont start :-[ In general, 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' starts Debian's specific configurator. This works fine for Ultra 1's, if you know that what kind of video card it has. However, with Woody, it does not return working configurations for Ultra 10s. Using Google, I found a working XF86Config-4 for these in minutes. I've had no keyboard problems. I apt-get some stuff no sound ... In my case (Woody), this was a matter of rmmod soundcore insmod audio insmod cs4231 (which is already default for Debian unstable) and if necessary, playing with audioctl to get the sound out of the boxes instead of the internal speaker. I compile a kernel or 10... FAQ. You'd better have a known working compiler (GCC 3.2.3) and copy your config from [4] instead of choosing from the kernel defaults. [4] ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-sparc/current/sun4u/kernel-config Not being a Debian user before now I have no idea who maintains the apt archive, do they need help porting or is it just a slow process to update? This is a general problem with Debian. Releases do not happen often, so people accuse the project of shipping ancient software. This is the same on the i386 platform. Some of your critic is deserved; I would like some changes to the installation manual as well. Most of the information is there, however, never at the place where I'd expect it. The first time that I'd read it, I was confused at what boot methods I actually needed (I ended up having a dhcpd, bootp, tftpd and rarpd, while I only needed the latter two.) Some of the FAQs on this list should be added too, I think. I'm available to help with this. Whom should I talk with? Regards, Pieter-Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3rc2 (SunOS) iD8DBQE/ivm8EjwC+DbpTB4RAqRPAKCrxfmOeQCXCQ63R2Tk4dwfPJIRIwCgkKtJ c9ndzvQ1e1TAwlRpU1MCxp8= =GF2j -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Hello all, I am new to this listing and wanted to make sure that I am in the right place. My son and I have decided to learn the Linux OS so that we can get off Microsoft OS and have a mutual project between us. We have a Sun Ultra5 w/ Sparc processor and at the moment it has Solaris 8 installed, but I plan on putting Debian Linux as the only OS. Our knowledge of Unix is minimal, Linux is non existant, and this is our first experience with any Sun equipment. After reading the postings for several weeks now it appears that most in the list may be quite a bit more advanced than we are and we just wanted to make sure that our postings were appropriate for the group. Is this the right spot? Rhonda R. Wilson
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On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 05:36:24PM -0400, Rhonda R. Wilson wrote: Hello all, I am new to this listing and wanted to make sure that I am in the right place. My son and I have decided to learn the Linux OS so that we can get off Microsoft OS and have a mutual project between us. We have a Sun Ultra5 w/ Sparc processor and at the moment it has Solaris 8 installed, but I plan on putting Debian Linux as the only OS. Our knowledge of Unix is minimal, Linux is non existant, and this is our first experience with any Sun equipment. After reading the postings for several weeks now it appears that most in the list may be quite a bit more advanced than we are and we just wanted to make sure that our postings were appropriate for the group. Is this the right spot? The reason there are experienced users here is so that we can answer questions for nice folks like you who don't know :) As long as you read the docs, you should be ok. If the docs don't answer your question, maybe google can. The list is certainly a good place if you can't find the answer yourself. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ Deqo - http://www.deqo.com/
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Rhonda R. Wilson said: Is this the right spot? im sure people here will be more then happy to help but if your household has zero unix/linux experience it may be better to start with a easier to install/use distribution first before going to debian(which is easier to manage in the long run usually). the only other linux distro I have tried on sparc was SuSE 7.3, and it installed pretty flawlessly on an ultra 1 creator 3D. though I went back to debian pretty quick :) ISO images are available here: ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ftp.suse.com/sparc64/7.3/iso unfortunately it seem's suse's user support lists are much less helpful then debian's at least in my experience, really low answer:question ratio(I think that's right ?). fortunately for basic tasks, provided the system installs suse should just work. more advanced stuff..maybe more troublesome, and sparc is not an officially supported distro of suse (I *think*). if you wanna stick to debian, I'll help where I can and I'm sure others will too but as you noticed it's really more suited to advanced users or users that are ready willing to get their hands dirty with linux for the most part, speaking as a debian user since 1998, and a linux user since 1996. good luck in whichever you choose. nate
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household has zero unix/linux experience it may be better to start with a easier to install/use distribution first before going to debian(which is easier to manage in the long run usually). For a really easy to use Linux distribution for the Sparc32 and Sparc64 platforms you may want to try Aurora Linux (http://auroralinux.org). It's based on RedHat Linux and has a graphical installer and user interface. After you get used to linux and Sparc hardware and want something better you can try debian. -- .~.,--, | Thomas Cort [EMAIL PROTECTED] /V\ --/ All Your Base Are \ | 192D rue Queen, Lennoxville, QC J1M 1J9 // \\ \ Belong to Us!!! / | Home Phone: +1 (819) 829 - 9750 /( )\ `--` | Running Linux on x86 MIPS PPC Sparc Sparc64 ^`~`^
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On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 18:28, Thomas A. Cort wrote: household has zero unix/linux experience it may be better to start with a easier to install/use distribution first before going to debian(which is easier to manage in the long run usually). For a really easy to use Linux distribution for the Sparc32 and Sparc64 platforms you may want to try Aurora Linux (http://auroralinux.org). It's based on RedHat Linux and has a graphical installer and user interface. After you get used to linux and Sparc hardware and want something better you can try debian. I would prefer the term different to better. :) ~spot --- Tom spot Callaway tcallawa(a)redhat*com SAIR LCA, RHCE Red Hat Enterprise Architect :: http://www.redhat.com Project Leader for Aurora Sparc Linux :: http://auroralinux.org GPG: D786 8B22 D9DB 1F8B 4AB7 448E 3C5E 99AD 9305 4260 The words and opinions reflected in this message do not necessarily reflect those of my employer, Red Hat, and belong solely to me. Immature poets borrow, mature poets steal. --- T. S. Eliot
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On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 03:04:57PM -0700, nate wrote: Rhonda R. Wilson said: Is this the right spot? im sure people here will be more then happy to help but if your household has zero unix/linux experience it may be better to start with a easier to install/use distribution first before going to debian(which is easier to manage in the long run usually). the only other linux distro I have tried on sparc was SuSE 7.3, and it installed pretty flawlessly on an ultra 1 creator 3D. though I went back to debian pretty quick :) first distro i used was caldera.. [bad memories] Second suse that lasted a bit longer, till i discoverd the way :) I did a suse install for a friend recently and it still sucks.[IMHO] Far too pretty and i couldnt find icewm. On the other hand, i have been using debian for a few years on i386 and it was a bit of a stuggle to get it onto my IPC [sun4c] but this was due to mu inability to confiure a boot server rather than anything wrong with the actual sparc [well apart from a file locking issue with the nfs root] Anyway i say go for debian! you can do it! post probs, but rtm and google first =o) -- hugh
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On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 02:48, Hugh Saunders wrote: On the other hand, i have been using debian for a few years on i386 and it was a bit of a stuggle to get it onto my IPC [sun4c] IMHO linux is not the best choice for sun4c hardware, I think that even Solaris 7 runs faster, not to mention that sparc32 kernel support is almost dead. This is of course completely subjective as I've no time to run intensive benchmarks, so YMMV. However for sun4u hardware -and since the hme driver is fixed- it definitively rocks. -- Irvin Probst There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.
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On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 17:36, Rhonda R. Wilson wrote: My son and I have decided to learn the Linux OS so that we can get off Microsoft OS and have a mutual project between us. We have a Sun Ultra5 w/ Sparc processor and at the moment it has Solaris 8 installed, but I plan on putting Debian Linux as the only OS. Our knowledge of Unix is minimal, Linux is non existant, and this is our first experience with any Sun equipment. Sadly to say, I would choose another distribution than Debian to get started with. The Debian installer program and documentation presume a lot of prior Unix knowledge, and some knowledge of the specific hardware (such as disk partitioning esoterica). Another writer's recommendation about Aurora could be a good one. I learned Linux using RedHat (from which Aurora is derived) on x86 platforms, and the RedHat installer is a _lot_ easier to start with than Debian Woody's. After a few months with Aurora (or perhaps SUSE) getting familiar with the Linux/Unix world, then an upgrade to Debian could be worthwhile. It opens up a choice of thousands of packages, aggressive security updating, a large user community, and a choice of stable, testing or unstable when choosing what versions of packages to install. Keeping debian up to date with security patches and other improvements is remarkably straightforward. Because Debian supports lots of platforms very consistently, stuff that you learn on your Ultra5 could help someone with a PowerMac, or vice versa. Ultra 5 is not a bad platform for Linux. Memory is about twice as expensive as on PC and PowerMac platforms, but the onboard ethernet and video work very well (I have a U10) and IDE drives are cheap and fast. -- enjoy the challenge of eliminating M$, SP
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I would prefer the term different to better. :) Me too. better is always relative to the user, not the entire userbase. Different strokes for different folks and all that :) -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ Deqo - http://www.deqo.com/
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Uploaded hello-dbs 1.3-3 (sparc) to ftp-master
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 12:31:22 +0200 Source: hello-dbs Binary: hello-dbs Architecture: sparc Version: 1.3-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/sparc Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: hello-dbs - The classic greeting, and a good example Closes: 141640 Changes: hello-dbs (1.3-3) unstable; urgency=low . * Fix typo in rules file, where the configure target touched configure-stamp, while build looked for stamp-configure. (closes: #141640) Files: 09e5876f4ac5c72a67b4b23978d56594 20538 devel optional hello-dbs_1.3-3_sparc.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.6 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAjyyvNoACgkQgD/uEicUG7DazACfWgofJ7L2lOtyxXbYUsxfekbo voIAoOqnOJ2AwUGSkzGG5Ypv1L0hsv6F =n0aS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Uploaded hello-dbs 1.3-2 (sparc) to ftp-master
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 14:50:19 +0100 Source: hello-dbs Binary: hello-dbs Architecture: sparc Version: 1.3-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/sparc Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: hello-dbs - The classic greeting, and a good example Closes: 137557 Changes: hello-dbs (1.3-2) unstable; urgency=low . * Add conflict, replaces and provides (closes: #137557) Files: 941e9c84d79efce6431675128ea1f8f0 20442 devel optional hello-dbs_1.3-2_sparc.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8jwCvN2Dbz/1mRasRAj50AJ4yDySCyjq5SVSz5ipFkB9oqTMZMgCgiZkM 7rm3YI3FPLmBj9IZj3HOTFs= =Xp6a -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Uploaded hello 1.3-18 (sparc) to ftp-master
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 00:42:56 -0600 Source: hello Binary: hello Architecture: sparc Version: 1.3-18 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: hello - The classic greeting, and a good example Closes: 81827 Changes: hello (1.3-18) unstable; urgency=low . * Fix bashism in debian/rules. Closes: #81827. Files: f75426c4160643c35c2ff15a453d3b43 22548 devel optional hello_1.3-18_sparc.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE6YFvGfNc/ZB4E7C0RAt/uAKC6igG2vD7c7IMmJF3N9qc7wbQrPgCfbG8i X1fIafzlgYAA6pQMaL4q/ZA= =fFC0 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Hello all, I'm pretty new to this list ... I recently installed debian 2.1 on a Hamilton-workstation which says it is Sparc compliant SCD 1.0, and maybe someone on this list can answer my question: I don't seem to be able to adjust my Xserver (Xsun24) to 16 bit color (X doesn't like the -bpp option). Is this really not possible, or did I make some handling errors? Thank you in advance, Robert -- Robert Wachinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
