Re: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
"David S. Miller" writes: > If the upper 32-bits of some parameter we pass in has garbage in > it, we'll totally die in the firmware. >From experience reported in my last message, it looks as if this is specific to the installer (or at least only shows up there for some reason) and it's leaving some bad state behind, since reset will get it going after the installation. Sarge's silo got the system booted eventually. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:23:30 -0600 (MDT) Jason Wever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll try this tonight when I get home and report back. To clarify, the SILO error we get with 1.4.9 on UltraSPARC IIIs (at least on a Blade 1000 with 'OBP 4.16.4 2004/12/18 05:18') looks like the following; Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],70/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:f File and args: SILO Version 1.4.9 ERROR: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],70: Last Trap: Fast Data Access MMU Miss Cheers, -- Jason Wever Gentoo/Sparc Team Co-Lead pgpyahZqYYaAC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 04:37:26PM -0700, Tyler wrote: > Ben Collins wrote: > > >>If the upper 32-bits of some parameter we pass in has garbage in > >>it, we'll totally die in the firmware. > >> > >>It's something to consider. > >> > >> > > > >Thanks, I'll keep that in mind when looking into this. Just wish I could > >reproduce it. > > > > > > Ben, could it be a timing issue? ... one thing I can think of is that a > CD is not going to be able to get to data as quickly as a hard drive > does. The error message mentions "fast mmu access" .. only a guess.. > but thought I would share :) By the time this message hits we've already loaded the kernel and the initrd from the cd into memory. There's no cd access after that. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ SwissDisk - http://www.swissdisk.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Ben Collins wrote: So SILO from hd works, but SILO from cd doesn't? I can't think of anything that is different when booting from CD other than the first stage bootloader (which is pretty trivial). The only thing could could possibly be the issue is something to do with initrd. Maybe some bug haas crept in, maybe it's a memory mapping issue particular to the III/IIIi's. Could be that SILO is writing the initrd over top of the kernel or writing the value into the wrong place in the kernel. We have tried to do some debugging on a SunFire 280R which Andres Salomon has access to. It also displays the same bug (#261824 in BTS [0]). The conclusion there was that it does not even come to initrd loading. It dies in PROM when the command to open the cdrom is issued from SILO. I have tried to do some debugging on the PROM side (see the message before last in the bug trail), but I don't know how to monitor/intercept the calls to the PROM's entry point routine prom_cif_handler(). [0] http://bugs.debian.org/261824 Best regards, Jurij Smakov[EMAIL PROTECTED] Key: http://www.wooyd.org/pgpkey/ KeyID: C99E03CC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
Ben Collins wrote: If the upper 32-bits of some parameter we pass in has garbage in it, we'll totally die in the firmware. It's something to consider. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind when looking into this. Just wish I could reproduce it. Ben, could it be a timing issue? ... one thing I can think of is that a CD is not going to be able to get to data as quickly as a hard drive does. The error message mentions "fast mmu access" .. only a guess.. but thought I would share :) Tyler. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
> If the upper 32-bits of some parameter we pass in has garbage in > it, we'll totally die in the firmware. > > It's something to consider. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind when looking into this. Just wish I could reproduce it. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ SwissDisk - http://www.swissdisk.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
From: Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:11:24 -0400 > So SILO from hd works, but SILO from cd doesn't? I can't think of anything > that is different when booting from CD other than the first stage > bootloader (which is pretty trivial). > > The only thing could could possibly be the issue is something to do with > initrd. Maybe some bug haas crept in, maybe it's a memory mapping issue > particular to the III/IIIi's. Could be that SILO is writing the initrd > over top of the kernel or writing the value into the wrong place in the > kernel. > > Quick test of this would be to see if you could boot from CD with no > initrd and mounting a hd for root. Ben, one thing I've been considering a lot lately while reading these reports is a somehow corrupted sign extension when calling into the OBP. SILO is, for better or for worse, a 32-bit Sparc binary. However, we go into 64-bit mode when we jump into the firmware. If the upper 32-bits of some parameter we pass in has garbage in it, we'll totally die in the firmware. It's something to consider. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Ben Collins wrote: So SILO from hd works, but SILO from cd doesn't? I can't think of anything that is different when booting from CD other than the first stage bootloader (which is pretty trivial). Correct, booting from the HD with 1.4.9 works just fine. The only thing could could possibly be the issue is something to do with initrd. Maybe some bug haas crept in, maybe it's a memory mapping issue particular to the III/IIIi's. Could be that SILO is writing the initrd over top of the kernel or writing the value into the wrong place in the kernel. Quick test of this would be to see if you could boot from CD with no initrd and mounting a hd for root. I'll try this tonight when I get home and report back. Cheers, - -- Jason Wever Gentoo/Sparc Co-Team Lead -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCztK3dKvgdVioq28RAipAAKCQafvHwCIl2N1I57LwJ9YKSNhKfwCeN470 XMVHZeGrhcZLgcrjLnDeIyU= =NjKw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
So SILO from hd works, but SILO from cd doesn't? I can't think of anything that is different when booting from CD other than the first stage bootloader (which is pretty trivial). The only thing could could possibly be the issue is something to do with initrd. Maybe some bug haas crept in, maybe it's a memory mapping issue particular to the III/IIIi's. Could be that SILO is writing the initrd over top of the kernel or writing the value into the wrong place in the kernel. Quick test of this would be to see if you could boot from CD with no initrd and mounting a hd for root. On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 09:37:05AM -0600, Jason Wever wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Jon BIddell wrote: > > >Boon - the one time I managed to get Gentoo to install from CDROM I had > >the same problem on the SunBlade 1000. > > We've found that when combining bootable CDs and UltraSPARC III and IIIi > CPUs (at least in the case of the Blade 1000 and the Netra 240 we have to > test with in Gentoo land), that anything newer than SILO 1.2.6 will > generate the "Fast Instruction Access MMU Miss" error. > > Cheers, > - -- > Jason Wever > Gentoo/Sparc Co-Team Lead > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFCzp2jdKvgdVioq28RAiHwAJ455DKiDdx9zXwSGmdwpuVeYhgejgCeJtBw > A6hH0mat/mRrS3Q3Kw0h0R8= > =cTv5 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ SwissDisk - http://www.swissdisk.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von:Jason Wever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Fr 08.07.2005 17:37 An: Jon BIddell Cc: Boon Siong; debian-sparc@lists.debian.org Betreff:Re: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240 *** Diese E-Mail enthaelt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschuetzte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtuemlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und loeschen Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the contents in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. *** -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Jon BIddell wrote: > Boon - the one time I managed to get Gentoo to install from CDROM I had > the same problem on the SunBlade 1000. We've found that when combining bootable CDs and UltraSPARC III and IIIi CPUs (at least in the case of the Blade 1000 and the Netra 240 we have to test with in Gentoo land), that anything newer than SILO 1.2.6 will generate the "Fast Instruction Access MMU Miss" error. Cheers, - -- Jason Wever Gentoo/Sparc Co-Team Lead -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCzp2jdKvgdVioq28RAiHwAJ455DKiDdx9zXwSGmdwpuVeYhgejgCeJtBw A6hH0mat/mRrS3Q3Kw0h0R8= =cTv5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Diese E-Mail enthaelt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschuetzte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtuemlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und loeschen Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the contents in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. ***
Re: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Jon BIddell wrote: Boon - the one time I managed to get Gentoo to install from CDROM I had the same problem on the SunBlade 1000. We've found that when combining bootable CDs and UltraSPARC III and IIIi CPUs (at least in the case of the Blade 1000 and the Netra 240 we have to test with in Gentoo land), that anything newer than SILO 1.2.6 will generate the "Fast Instruction Access MMU Miss" error. Cheers, - -- Jason Wever Gentoo/Sparc Co-Team Lead -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCzp2jdKvgdVioq28RAiHwAJ455DKiDdx9zXwSGmdwpuVeYhgejgCeJtBw A6hH0mat/mRrS3Q3Kw0h0R8= =cTv5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
Boon Siong wrote: > Hi, > > I have a Sun Fire V240 with 1GB Ram, > > i get this msg when i try to boot up with debian installation cd, > > ok boot cdrom > Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],60/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL > PROTECTED],0:f File and args: > SILO Version 1.4.9 > \ > boot: > Allocated 8 Megs of memory at 0x4000 for kernel > Loaded kernel version 2.4.27 > Loading initial ramdisk (3041649 bytes at 0x3F80 phys, 0x40C0 > virt)... > - > Remapping the kernel... Fast Instruction Access MMU Miss > ok Boon - the one time I managed to get Gentoo to install from CDROM I had the same problem on the SunBlade 1000. Try a netboot - did it last night and it works perfectly (you can specify CD/DVD as the source for packages when you get to that point). jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
Huh! ADVICE : REMOVE 512 MB OF RAM! Read previous posts about this problem ! And read this : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=%23315978 I guess this is a well known problem/bug. We should make a private forum or something dedicated to this problem! Regards, Stefan T From: Boon Siong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7 iulie 2005 12:10 To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240 any one succesfully installed debian on v240? can give some advise? - Original Message - From: stefan t To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 4:45 PM Subject: RE: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240 From: stefan t [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7 iulie 2005 11:40 To: 'Boon Siong' Subject: RE: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240 I have same problem ! Try removing 512 mb of ram! There is not a kernel bug, I guess, since HIGHMEM support is for > 4GB. Anyway, I’ve recompiled many kernel versions (2.4.*, 2.6.*). Same problem! L From: Boon Siong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7 iulie 2005 09:15 To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org Subject: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240 Hi, I have a Sun Fire V240 with 1GB Ram, i get this msg when i try to boot up with debian installation cd, ok boot cdrom Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],60/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:f File and args: SILO Version 1.4.9 \ boot: Allocated 8 Megs of memory at 0x4000 for kernel Loaded kernel version 2.4.27 Loading initial ramdisk (3041649 bytes at 0x3F80 phys, 0x40C0 virt)... - Remapping the kernel... Fast Instruction Access MMU Miss ok appreciate your prompt of reply. Thank You. Regards, Lee
Re: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
any one succesfully installed debian on v240? can give some advise? - Original Message - From: stefan t To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 4:45 PM Subject: RE: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240 From: stefan t [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7 iulie 2005 11:40To: 'Boon Siong'Subject: RE: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240 I have same problem ! Try removing 512 mb of ram! There is not a kernel bug, I guess, since HIGHMEM support is for > 4GB. Anyway, Ive recompiled many kernel versions (2.4.*, 2.6.*). Same problem! L From: Boon Siong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7 iulie 2005 09:15To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.orgSubject: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240 Hi, I have a Sun Fire V240 with 1GB Ram, i get this msg when i try to boot up with debian installation cd, ok boot cdromBoot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],60/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:f File and args:SILO Version 1.4.9\boot:Allocated 8 Megs of memory at 0x4000 for kernelLoaded kernel version 2.4.27Loading initial ramdisk (3041649 bytes at 0x3F80 phys, 0x40C0 virt)...-Remapping the kernel... Fast Instruction Access MMU Missok appreciate your prompt of reply. Thank You. Regards, Lee
RE: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
From: stefan t [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7 iulie 2005 11:40 To: 'Boon Siong' Subject: RE: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240 I have same problem ! Try removing 512 mb of ram! There is not a kernel bug, I guess, since HIGHMEM support is for > 4GB. Anyway, I’ve recompiled many kernel versions (2.4.*, 2.6.*). Same problem! L From: Boon Siong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7 iulie 2005 09:15 To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org Subject: Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240 Hi, I have a Sun Fire V240 with 1GB Ram, i get this msg when i try to boot up with debian installation cd, ok boot cdrom Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],60/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:f File and args: SILO Version 1.4.9 \ boot: Allocated 8 Megs of memory at 0x4000 for kernel Loaded kernel version 2.4.27 Loading initial ramdisk (3041649 bytes at 0x3F80 phys, 0x40C0 virt)... - Remapping the kernel... Fast Instruction Access MMU Miss ok appreciate your prompt of reply. Thank You. Regards, Lee
Installation Problem on Sun Fire V240
Hi, I have a Sun Fire V240 with 1GB Ram, i get this msg when i try to boot up with debian installation cd, ok boot cdromBoot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],60/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:f File and args:SILO Version 1.4.9\boot:Allocated 8 Megs of memory at 0x4000 for kernelLoaded kernel version 2.4.27Loading initial ramdisk (3041649 bytes at 0x3F80 phys, 0x40C0 virt)...-Remapping the kernel... Fast Instruction Access MMU Missok appreciate your prompt of reply. Thank You. Regards, Lee
