Re: Netra Linux

2001-01-19 Thread Joshua Uziel
* Eiji Ota [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010118 18:12]:
 The price of Netra X1 sounds so attractive to me, and it's a pity
 it uses different chips. But I have patience with a bit hope.;)

You'll have to be patient anyways... I spoke with a Sun sales rep on the
phone this morning (when they finally called me back), and she said that
it wasn't actually shipping until March 6th or 7th or so.

 When I checked the pdf file in
 www.sun.com/netra/whitepapers/NetraX1.pdf, I found Netra X1 doesn't
 have any U2Ps and any UPA buses and I was surprised.  Is it right ?
 UltraSPARCIIe can handle a PCI bus directly without a bridge chip ?
 If so, actually the architecture is different from what I'm familiar
 with.

Hmm... having not seen or played with one, I'm not too terribly sure
about it, but if memory serves me, it's got something like a VIA
southbridge on it.



Re: Netra Linux

2001-01-18 Thread Eiji Ota
Can Linux run on the new Netra server ? 
# I attach the information from Sun's Web.

If so, we can get the SPARCV9 platform at almost the same price as PC's!
# I don't care if it has a framebuffer or not. ;)

Eiji

 On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 00:49:38 +0100,
 Borut Mrak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [...]
  I have it running on a Netra...I don't know the exact model, but the 
  hardware
  is the same as a SparcStation 5.
 
 this is one of the older netras. they were more or less normal machines
 (i've also seen them with framebuffer) with some software additions.
 
 but the new netra line (netra t1) is different. they're 19 formfactor
 machines, unlike most/all other sun servers. i've not tried to run linux
 on them, but from what i've seen and heard of the hardware, there should
 be no surprises. so debian-sparc64 should run on them.


(The information of the Netra X1 Server(from Sun's Web))

Introducing the Netra[tm] X1 Server

Sun Server Quality at a Remarkably Low Price 

Recognizing the emerging need for a new breed of low-cost servers, 
Sun Microsystems, Inc. developed the Netra[tm] X1 server, the industry's 
lowest-priced UNIX(r)/RISC server ever, delivering Sun's renowned quality
for under $1,000. 
~
As the latest addition to the successful Netra line of robust servers, 
and storage and expansion solutions, the ultra-thin, rackmountable Netra 
X1 server extends Sun's compelling value proposition to a whole new market,
bringing Sun's premier performance to mainstream computing. It gives 
enterprises and service providers an attractive entre into Sun's complete 
family of servers-from one to 64 processors all built around the premier
Solaris[tm] Operating Environment and SPARC[tm] architecture. Only Sun 
offers this seamless growth path across its entire compute family - something
no other computer vendor can match. 

Sun Delivers Premium, Low-Cost Computing
With a starting price of $995, the Netra X1 server is extremely competitive
when compared with other entry-level servers. It is an especially attractive
proposition given the fact that the server comes complete with the Solaris
Operating Environment and disk drive preinstalled along with remote management
capabilities, making it ready for out-of-the-box use. 

World-Class Operating Environment:
The Netra X1 server incorporates Sun's industrial-strength Solaris 8 Operating
Environment, one of the most mature, widely respected operating systems in the
industry. With over 12,000 applications, it is the operating system of choice
in Fortune 1000 companies and for the Internet. 

Powerful 64-bit Computing:
On the hardware side of the equation, the Netra X1 server is built around Sun's
advanced UltraSPARC[tm] processor. In commercial use for over five years, the
proven 64-bit UltraSPARC processor is one of the most fully developed processor
families on the market, offering a clear roadmap for the future. 

Complete Compatibility:
Unlike competitive products that bolt together third-party operating systems 
and hardware, the SPARC architecture and the Solaris Operating Environment 
were designed from the start to seamlessly work in tandem. This tight 
collaboration between the operating system and processor throughout the Sun
portfolio has resulted in one of the industry's largest and most successful
families of binary-compatible systems. 

Basis for a Wide Range of Applications

Typical applications for Netra X1 servers can be partitioned into
infrastructure and revenue services.

Infrastructure Services 
Firewall servers
DNS servers 
Cache servers
Print severs
Proxy servers 
Horizontal scaling 
Revenue Services 
Email/message servers 
Web server cohost
Hosting server
VoIP server (voice-over-IP)
VPN (virtual private network) 

The Netra X1 Server:
The Details
The Netra X1 server comes complete at $995 with: 
  
   Solaris 8 Operating Environment 
   400-MHz, 64-bit UltraSPARC processor 
   128 MB (1 GB max) memory 
   Sun's advanced remote management/monitoring capabilities 
   20 GB industry-standard IDE hard drive (a second drive is optional) 

Quick, Easy Installation 

   Two built-in Ethernet ports 
   Industry-standard RJ45 console and serial ports 

Compact 

   1U (1.75 inches) in height 
   Small server footprint (17x13) 

Remote Management
The server's lights out management (LOM) for remote monitoring and control
greatly simplifies day-to-day management and administration. 

Higher Availability 

   Robust construction, similar to that of Sun's carrier-grade servers 
   Automatic server restart 
   Removable system configuration card 
   Status LEDs on the front and rear 
   Unit is serviced as a single field replaceable unit (FRU)

Ample Connectivity 

   One 

Re: Netra Linux

2001-01-18 Thread boucli27

First, 
I would like to thank you all for the input, but I would like to know if 
Linux64 actually runs on at least a Netra T1 ( or better ), if someone who has 
access to such a server can test it. Because a lot of people have x86 servers 
running Linux that do not scale ( too many hits ), they wish to switch to a 
__REAL__ server, but they have   a lot of scripts that are OS dependant and 
they do not have the time to learn another OS with its idiosyncrasies and 
modify their solution accordingly, nor they can afford to send the money 
without being sure that such a model runs Linux. This is very important to a 
lot of people and I would like to add a section about the Netra servers ( the 
old ones pose no problem ) in the SPARC-HOWTO.

Cheers,
Lionel


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Re: Netra Linux

2001-01-18 Thread Thomas 'Mike' Michlmayr
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 00:49:38 +0100,
Borut Mrak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 I have it running on a Netra...I don't know the exact model, but the hardware
 is the same as a SparcStation 5.

this is one of the older netras. they were more or less normal machines
(i've also seen them with framebuffer) with some software additions.

but the new netra line (netra t1) is different. they're 19 formfactor
machines, unlike most/all other sun servers. i've not tried to run linux
on them, but from what i've seen and heard of the hardware, there should
be no surprises. so debian-sparc64 should run on them.

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] |   lusers into representational shapes.



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Re: Netra Linux

2001-01-18 Thread Joshua Uziel
* Eiji Ota [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010118 10:36]:
 Can Linux run on the new Netra server ? 
 # I attach the information from Sun's Web.
 
 If so, we can get the SPARCV9 platform at almost the same price as PC's!
 # I don't care if it has a framebuffer or not. ;)

I believe that SPARC/Linux will run on the Netra T1 (if memory serves
me, Sun gave one to DaveM to work on), but it curently won't work on the
Netra X1.  The Netra X1 has a new CPU (UltraSPARC-IIi), a new PCI
chipset for SPARC (ALi), and I beleive a new IDE controller (VIA?).
Basically, have patience (or work on it). :)



Netra Linux

2001-01-17 Thread boucli27
Hi,

I would like to know if Linux runs on the Netra server line from Sun.
If it runs on which models does it run ?, what features are supported or 
unsupported.

Regards,



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Re: Netra Linux

2001-01-17 Thread Borut Mrak
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 06:42:59PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would like to know if Linux runs on the Netra server line from Sun.
 If it runs on which models does it run ?, what features are supported or 
 unsupported.

I have it running on a Netra...I don't know the exact model, but the hardware
is the same as a SparcStation 5. It should run on almost any Netra machine,
AFAIK they're just Sun workstations sans framebuffer. At least that's the
difference between this one and the SS5 I got my hands on.

hth,

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