Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread Frans van Berckel 
On Mon, 2015-12-28 at 22:41 +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 12/28/2015 10:52 PM, Ulrich Teichert wrote:
> > Sorry, same behaviour as before. I'll try another of my boxes
> > tomorrow, just
> > to be sure,
> 
> I just remembered I can actually test with qemu-system-sparc64. I
> actually get the same result with the new images:

Going back to 2002, the CDROM booting issues for Linux on Sparc topic.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2002/05/threads.html#00146

Thanks,


Frans van Berckel

Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread Ulrich Teichert 
Hi,

>On 12/28/2015 09:35 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> I'm generating another image now using genisoimage, just a second.
>
>Generated with genisoimage:
>
>>
>https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/debian-cd/debian-9.0-sparc64-NETINST-1.iso

Sorry, same behaviour as before. I'll try another of my boxes tomorrow, just
to be sure,

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Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread Frans van Berckel 
On Mon, 2015-12-28 at 22:57 +0100, Frans van Berckel wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-12-28 at 22:41 +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > On 12/28/2015 10:52 PM, Ulrich Teichert wrote:
> > > Sorry, same behaviour as before. I'll try another of my boxes
> > > tomorrow, just
> > > to be sure,
> > 
> > I just remembered I can actually test with qemu-system-sparc64. I
> > actually get the same result with the new images:
> 
> Going back to 2002, the CDROM booting issues for Linux on Sparc
> topic.
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2002/05/threads.html#00146

And based on information from 2010...

http://wiki.osdev.org/SILO

Thanks,


Frans van Berckel

Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread Anatoly Pugachev 
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 3:30 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
 wrote:
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>
> Hi debian-sparc and others!
>
> Here's my first attempt for a sparc64 netinst image:
>
>> https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/debian-cd/
>
> This has not been tested _at all_ and was just freshly generated, so
> there is absolutely no warranty it will turn your sparc box into
> a toaster ;-).
>
> Looking forward to any feedback!
>


tried in solaris sparc ldom, created domain, same way as oracle sparc
linux (details in
https://oss.oracle.com/linux-sparc/docs/RELEASE-NOTES-1.0-en.html)
but changed cdrom from oracle iso to netinstall.iso
(debian-9.0-sparc64-NETINST-1.iso), here the output:

{0} ok boot cdrom
Boot device: /virtual-devices@100/channel-devices@200/disk@1  File and args:
The file just loaded does not appear to be executable.
{0} ok


attached solaris linux sparc iso to this netinstall ldom :
root@deimos:/home/sysadmin# ldm list-services
...
VDS
NAME LDOM VOLUME OPTIONS
MPGROUPDEVICE
  lfs2.iso   ro
  /export/zfs/ISOs/linux-sparc-1.0-DVD.iso
  netinst.isoro
  /export/zfs/ISOs/debian-9.0-sparc64-NETINST-1.iso

root@deimos:/home/sysadmin# ldm list -l netinstall
...
DISK
NAME VOLUME  TOUT ID   DEVICE
SERVER MPGROUP
vdisk1   netinstdisk@primary-vds0 0disk@0
primary
cdromnetinst.iso@primary-vds0 1disk@1
primary
cdrom1   lfs2.iso@primary-vds02disk@2  primary


and if I try to boot from cdrom1 , it actually goes ok:

{0} ok boot cdrom
Boot device: /virtual-devices@100/channel-devices@200/disk@1  File and args:
The file just loaded does not appear to be executable.
{0} ok boot cdrom1
NOTICE: Entering OpenBoot.
NOTICE: Fetching Guest MD from HV.
NOTICE: Starting additional cpus.
NOTICE: Initializing LDC services.
NOTICE: Probing PCI devices.
NOTICE: Finished PCI probing.

SPARC T5-2, No Keyboard
Copyright (c) 1998, 2015, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.
OpenBoot 4.38.1, 2. GB memory available, Serial #83448028.
Ethernet address 0:14:4f:f9:50:dc, Host ID: 84f950dc.



Boot device: /virtual-devices@100/channel-devices@200/disk@2  File and args:
SILO Version 1.4.14 - Rel: 4.0.18.el6
\
Use  to see valid boot labels or  for default action.
Alternatively, type 'halt' to drop back to the OpenBoot prompt.

boot:
Allocated 64 Megs of memory at 0x4000 for kernel
Loaded kernel version 4.1.8
Loading initial ramdisk (42887664 bytes at 0x7400 phys, 0x40C0 virt)...
/
PROMLIB: Sun IEEE Boot Prom 'OBP 4.38.1 2015/08/21 14:26'
PROMLIB: Root node compatible: sun4v


I can try not as ldom, but as bare-metal as well, but need to reboot server...

Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
Please do *not* reply to debian-devel-announce@l.d.o!

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Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread Frans van Berckel 
On Mon, 2015-12-28 at 13:30 +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> Hi debian-sparc and others!
> 
> Here's my first attempt for a sparc64 netinst image:
> 
> > https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/debian-cd/
> 
> This has not been tested _at all_ and was just freshly generated, so
> there is absolutely no warranty it will turn your sparc box into
> a toaster ;-).
> 
> Looking forward to any feedback!

Have you seen fdisk shows 8 partitions? All have the same start, end &
sectors counts. Did find out, because auto mount, a dd'ed usb stick.

# fdisk -l debian-9.0-sparc64-NETINST-1.iso

Thanks,

Frans van Berckel

Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
On 12/28/2015 06:26 PM, Frans van Berckel wrote:
> Have you seen fdisk shows 8 partitions? All have the same start, end &
> sectors counts. Did find out, because auto mount, a dd'ed usb stick.

No, I haven't. That's why I asked for feedback ;-).

Thanks for letting me know, I'll have a look.

Adrian

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Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
On 12/28/2015 06:54 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> Thanks for letting me know, I'll have a look.

Apparently this seems to be normal:

root@ikarus:/home/glaubitz/Downloads# fdisk -l
debian-7.9.0-sparc-netinst.iso
Disk debian-7.9.0-sparc-netinst.iso: 172.6 MiB, 180961280 bytes, 353440
sectors
Geometry: 1 heads, 640 sectors/track, 2048 cylinders
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: sun

Device  StartEnd Sectors   Size Id Type
  Flags
debian-7.9.0-sparc-netinst.iso1 0 353439  353440 172.6M  4 SunOS usr
 r
debian-7.9.0-sparc-netinst.iso2 0 353439  353440 172.6M  2 SunOS
root r
debian-7.9.0-sparc-netinst.iso3 0 353439  353440 172.6M  2 SunOS
root r
debian-7.9.0-sparc-netinst.iso4 0 353439  353440 172.6M  2 SunOS
root r
debian-7.9.0-sparc-netinst.iso5 0 353439  353440 172.6M  2 SunOS
root r
debian-7.9.0-sparc-netinst.iso6 0 353439  353440 172.6M  2 SunOS
root r
debian-7.9.0-sparc-netinst.iso7 0 353439  353440 172.6M  2 SunOS
root r
debian-7.9.0-sparc-netinst.iso8 0 353439  353440 172.6M  2 SunOS
root r
root@ikarus:/home/glaubitz/Downloads#

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Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
On 12/28/2015 07:24 PM, Ulrich Teichert wrote:
> The file just loaded does not appear to be executable.

Sounds like silo is broken. I can try an old 32-bit version of
silo and recreate the image.

Adrian

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Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
On 12/28/2015 09:35 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> I'm generating another image now using genisoimage, just a second.

Generated with genisoimage:

>
https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/debian-cd/debian-9.0-sparc64-NETINST-1.iso

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Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
On 12/28/2015 10:52 PM, Ulrich Teichert wrote:
> Sorry, same behaviour as before. I'll try another of my boxes tomorrow, just
> to be sure,

I just remembered I can actually test with qemu-system-sparc64. I
actually get the same result with the new images:

glaubitz@z6:..sparc64/debian-cd-created> qemu-system-sparc64 -nographic
-m 512 -cdrom debian-9.0-sparc64-BC-1.iso -boot d
OpenBIOS for Sparc64
Configuration device id QEMU version 1 machine id 0
kernel cmdline
CPUs: 1 x SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi
UUID: ----
Welcome to OpenBIOS v1.1 built on Sep 12 2015 17:10
  Type 'help' for detailed information
Trying cdrom:f...
Not a bootable ELF image
Not a bootable a.out image
Not a bootable FCode image
No valid state has been set by load or init-program

0 >

The Wheezy image works fine.

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Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
On 12/28/2015 10:41 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 12/28/2015 10:52 PM, Ulrich Teichert wrote:
>> Sorry, same behaviour as before. I'll try another of my boxes tomorrow, just
>> to be sure,
> 
> I just remembered I can actually test with qemu-system-sparc64. I
> actually get the same result with the new images:

Alright, I actually extracted second.b and isofs.b directly from Wheezy
and now it works:

>
https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/debian-cd/debian-9.0-sparc64-BC-1-oldsilo.iso

So, this is definitely an issue with silo-git which does not work
really. I will build just an old version of silo which should
work in any case.

Adrian

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Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
On 12/28/2015 11:47 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> So, this is definitely an issue with silo-git which does not work
> really. I will build just an old version of silo which should
> work in any case.

I'm calling it a day for today and will continue tomorrow.

PS: Don't expect the image to be really usable by now :).

Cheers,
Adrian

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Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
On 12/28/2015 07:13 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 12/28/2015 07:24 PM, Ulrich Teichert wrote:
>> The file just loaded does not appear to be executable.
> 
> Sounds like silo is broken. I can try an old 32-bit version of
> silo and recreate the image.

Can you try this image?

>
https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/debian-cd/debian-9.0-sparc64-NETINST-oldsilo.iso

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Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread Frans van Berckel 
On Mon, 2015-12-28 at 19:12 +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 12/28/2015 06:54 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > Thanks for letting me know, I'll have a look.
> 
> Apparently this seems to be normal:
> 
> root@ikarus:/home/glaubitz/Downloads# fdisk -l
> debian-7.9.0-sparc-netinst.iso

It's always good to know, how it looks like with FreeBSD.

# fdisk -l FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-sparc64-disc1.iso

Disk FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-sparc64-disc1.iso (Sun disk label): 1 heads,
640 sectors, 1680 cylinders Units = sectors of 1 * 512 bytes

FlagStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-sparc64-disc1.iso1 0   1073920   
 5369604  SunOS usr
FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-sparc64-disc1.iso3 0   1075200   
 5376005  Whole disk
FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-sparc64-disc1.iso6   1073920   1075200  
 6402  SunOS root

Thanks,

Frans van Berckel

Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread Anatoly Pugachev 
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 9:53 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
 wrote:
> On 12/28/2015 07:13 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> On 12/28/2015 07:24 PM, Ulrich Teichert wrote:
>>> The file just loaded does not appear to be executable.
>>
>> Sounds like silo is broken. I can try an old 32-bit version of
>> silo and recreate the image.
>
> Can you try this image?
>
> https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/debian-cd/debian-9.0-sparc64-NETINST-oldsilo.iso

same with this iso, in ldom:
root@deimos:/export/zfs/ISOs# ldm list -l netinstall | grep cdrom2
cdrom2   oldsilo.iso@primary-vds0 3disk@3  primary
...
{0} ok boot cdrom2
Boot device: /virtual-devices@100/channel-devices@200/disk@3  File and args:
The file just loaded does not appear to be executable.
{0} ok devalias cdrom2
cdrom2   /virtual-devices@100/channel-devices@200/disk@3

Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
On 12/28/2015 08:27 PM, Anatoly Pugachev wrote:
> same with this iso, in ldom:

Ok, I'll have to dig into the scripts again then. Maybe someone from the
Oracle guys could have a look at some point and maybe spot the problem.

Adrian

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Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
On 12/28/2015 08:57 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> I just realized. I could maybe try replacing xorroisofs with the
> original mkisofs. Maybe the new tools aren't really sparc-compatible.

I'm generating another image now using genisoimage, just a second.

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Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
On 12/28/2015 08:03 PM, Frans van Berckel wrote:
>> root@ikarus:/home/glaubitz/Downloads# fdisk -l
>> debian-7.9.0-sparc-netinst.iso
> 
> It's always good to know, how it looks like with FreeBSD.

Well, the relevant reference are the previous official sparc
ISO images for Debian, aren't they? And the Wheezy sparc image
has basically the same layout, so I don't think the layout
is corrupted.

Adrian

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Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread Ulrich Teichert 
Hi,

[del]
>Can you try this image?
>
>>
>https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/debian-cd/debian-9.0-sparc64-NETINST-oldsilo.iso

Sorry to say, but this gives the same error message on boot:

{1} ok boot cdrom
Boot device: /pci@1e,60/ide@d/cdrom@0,0:f  File and args: 
The file just loaded does not appear to be executable.

CU,
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Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
On 12/28/2015 08:31 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 12/28/2015 08:27 PM, Anatoly Pugachev wrote:
>> same with this iso, in ldom:
> 
> Ok, I'll have to dig into the scripts again then. Maybe someone from the
> Oracle guys could have a look at some point and maybe spot the problem.

I just realized. I could maybe try replacing xorroisofs with the
original mkisofs. Maybe the new tools aren't really sparc-compatible.

Adrian

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Re: First sparc64 netinst image available

2015-12-28 Thread Ulrich Teichert 
Hi,

>Here's my first attempt for a sparc64 netinst image:
>
>> https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/debian-cd/
>
>This has not been tested _at all_ and was just freshly generated, so
>there is absolutely no warranty it will turn your sparc box into
>a toaster ;-).
>
>Looking forward to any feedback!

Sorry to say, but on a Sun Fire V240 with serial console this dies with:

Sun Fire V240, No Keyboard
Copyright 2006 Sun Microsystems, Inc.  All rights reserved.
OpenBoot 4.22.19, 4096 MB memory installed, Serial #76594324.
Ethernet address 0:14:4f:90:bc:94, Host ID: 8490bc94.

Rebooting with command: boot cdrom:   
Boot device: /pci@1e,60/ide@d/cdrom@0,0:  File and args: 
The file just loaded does not appear to be executable.


With a debian etch CD this box boots:

Boot device: /pci@1e,60/ide@d/cdrom@0,0:f  File and args: 
SILO Version 1.4.13
...
  Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux etch!

So, the hardware is OK and hasn't turned into a toaster ;-)

HTH,
Uli
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