Re: Sun Ultra 25 / Debian 12 install/progress
Hi Adrian, thanks a lot. Once a new image is available I will try it out. Cheers Iggi On 11/12/23 20:47, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Iggi! On Fri, 2023-11-10 at 18:56 +, Ignacio Soriano Hernandez wrote: so installed it with the latest image you had posted. It boots into the login but USB is not supported, so only terminal. Can you post the output of "lsusb" and "lspci" so I can see what kind of USB controller your machine has? Maybe it's just disabled in the Debian kernel configuration. What I was feeling is that even 5.16 is very unstable .. a simple apt install openssh-server crashed the machine. Kernel after 4.19 were actually not very stable on older SPARCs like yours while there were no problems on the newer SPARCs like T2, T3, T4 and so on. Bisecting these kernel issues on my Ultra 45 is still on my TODO list. If you want to have a stable kernel, use this image from July 2019 and make sure you always boot the machine into kernel 4.19 from GRUB: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2019-07-16/ Btw. What is the recommended way of updating the keyring so that I could install some further packages and a desktop? What it be possible to exit to the shell within the installer to update the keyring so that it could use the mirror to get the packages? You can download and install the keyring package like this: # wget http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/pool/main/d/debian-ports-archive-keyring/debian-ports-archive-keyring_2023.02.01_all.deb # dpkg -i debian-ports-archive-keyring_2023.02.01_all.deb Thanks a lot for your support. You're welcome and sorry for the current issues you're seeing. I haven't had time to work on Debian's sparc64 port for a while and only recently had the time to setup the two new SPARC T4-1 that we purchased for Debian. These machines are running now and I am currently going through all kind of packages which have regressed on sparc64 and I'm filing bug reports and sending patches upstream. Also, I am going to updated debian-installer images soon so you can test a more recent kernel. Adrian
Re: Sun Ultra 25 / Debian 12 install/progress
Hi Connor! On Wed, 2023-11-29 at 21:51 +0100, Connor McLaughlan wrote: > just for reference, i was experiencing the same usb problem on my > Ultra 25 as mentioned here: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2022/12/msg0.html > > So for newer kernels than 5.6.0 usb is dying during boot rendering > mouse and keyboard unusable on the machine. Bisecting this issue would be incredibly helpful. We could then notify the kernel developer who introduced the regression so they can provide a fix we can test. I assume it's a trivial fix. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer `. `' Physicist `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
Re: Sun Ultra 25 / Debian 12 install/progress
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 8:48 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Hi Iggi! > > On Fri, 2023-11-10 at 18:56 +, Ignacio Soriano Hernandez wrote: > > so installed it with the latest image you had posted. It boots into the > > login but USB is not supported, so only terminal. > > Can you post the output of "lsusb" and "lspci" so I can see what kind of > USB controller your machine has? Maybe it's just disabled in the Debian > kernel configuration. > > > What I was feeling is that even 5.16 is very unstable .. a simple apt > > install openssh-server crashed the machine. > > Kernel after 4.19 were actually not very stable on older SPARCs like yours > while there were no problems on the newer SPARCs like T2, T3, T4 and so on. > > Bisecting these kernel issues on my Ultra 45 is still on my TODO list. > > If you want to have a stable kernel, use this image from July 2019 and make > sure you always boot the machine into kernel 4.19 from GRUB: > > > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2019-07-16/ > > > Btw. What is the recommended way of updating the keyring so that I could > > install some further packages and a desktop? What it be possible to exit > > to the shell within the installer to update the keyring so that it could > > use the mirror to get the packages? > > You can download and install the keyring package like this: > > # wget > http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/pool/main/d/debian-ports-archive-keyring/debian-ports-archive-keyring_2023.02.01_all.deb > # dpkg -i debian-ports-archive-keyring_2023.02.01_all.deb > > > Thanks a lot for your support. > > You're welcome and sorry for the current issues you're seeing. > > I haven't had time to work on Debian's sparc64 port for a while and only > recently had the time to setup the two new SPARC T4-1 that we purchased > for Debian. > > These machines are running now and I am currently going through all kind > of packages which have regressed on sparc64 and I'm filing bug reports and > sending patches upstream. > > Also, I am going to updated debian-installer images soon so you can test > a more recent kernel. > > Adrian > > -- > .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > : :' : Debian Developer > `. `' Physicist > `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 > Hello All, just for reference, i was experiencing the same usb problem on my Ultra 25 as mentioned here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2022/12/msg0.html So for newer kernels than 5.6.0 usb is dying during boot rendering mouse and keyboard unusable on the machine. Regards, Connor
Re: Sun Ultra 25 / Debian 12 install/progress
Hi Iggi! On Fri, 2023-11-10 at 18:56 +, Ignacio Soriano Hernandez wrote: > so installed it with the latest image you had posted. It boots into the > login but USB is not supported, so only terminal. Can you post the output of "lsusb" and "lspci" so I can see what kind of USB controller your machine has? Maybe it's just disabled in the Debian kernel configuration. > What I was feeling is that even 5.16 is very unstable .. a simple apt > install openssh-server crashed the machine. Kernel after 4.19 were actually not very stable on older SPARCs like yours while there were no problems on the newer SPARCs like T2, T3, T4 and so on. Bisecting these kernel issues on my Ultra 45 is still on my TODO list. If you want to have a stable kernel, use this image from July 2019 and make sure you always boot the machine into kernel 4.19 from GRUB: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2019-07-16/ > Btw. What is the recommended way of updating the keyring so that I could > install some further packages and a desktop? What it be possible to exit > to the shell within the installer to update the keyring so that it could > use the mirror to get the packages? You can download and install the keyring package like this: # wget http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/pool/main/d/debian-ports-archive-keyring/debian-ports-archive-keyring_2023.02.01_all.deb # dpkg -i debian-ports-archive-keyring_2023.02.01_all.deb > Thanks a lot for your support. You're welcome and sorry for the current issues you're seeing. I haven't had time to work on Debian's sparc64 port for a while and only recently had the time to setup the two new SPARC T4-1 that we purchased for Debian. These machines are running now and I am currently going through all kind of packages which have regressed on sparc64 and I'm filing bug reports and sending patches upstream. Also, I am going to updated debian-installer images soon so you can test a more recent kernel. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer `. `' Physicist `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
Re: Sun Ultra 25 / Debian 12 install/progress
Hi Adrian,
so installed it with the latest image you had posted. It boots into the login
but USB is not supported, so only terminal.
What I was feeling is that even 5.16 is very unstable .. a simple apt install
openssh-server crashed the machine.
Btw. What is the recommended way of updating the keyring so that I could
install some further packages and a desktop? What it be possible to exit to the
shell within the installer to update the keyring so that it could use the
mirror to get the packages?
Thanks a lot for your support.
Cheers
Iggi
Am 09.11.23, 16:09 schrieb "John Paul Adrian Glaubitz"
mailto:glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de>>:
Hi Iggi!
On Thu, 2023-11-09 at 15:16 +0100, Ignacio Soriano Hernandez wrote:
> Loading Linux 6.5.0-4-sparc64 ...
> Loading initial ramdisk ...
>
> [ 0.721550] pci :05:1d.0: unsupported PM cap regs version (4)
> [ 7.135075] Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address
> 000406131004
> [ 7.230283] tsk->{mm,active_mm}->context = 0040
> [ 7.297222] tsk->{mm,active_mm}->pgd = fff211c3
> [ 7.365556] Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address
> 0004061110184000
> [ 7.460774] tsk->{mm,active_mm}->context = 003d
> [ 7.527753] tsk->{mm,active_mm}->pgd = fff211c04000
> [ 7.661424] Kernel panic - not syncing: corrupted stack end detected inside
> scheduler
> [ 7.761835] Press Stop-A (L1-A) from sun keyboard or send break
> [ 7.761835] twice on console to return to the boot prom
> [ 7.904298] ---[ end Kernel panic - not syncing: corrupted stack end detected
> inside scheduler ]---
>
> And this happens via the serial console, no USB devices connected.
Can you try an older image? I used an image from last year when I installed
Debian inside
two SPARC T4-1 LDOMs which I have freshly set up for Debian Ports:
> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2022-03-24/debian-11.0.0-sparc64-NETINST-1.iso
>
>
I have seen some issue with most recent kernels on SPARC which is why I have
currently booted
one LDOM into kernel 5.16.14.
When you install with the image above, you will be able to boot into kernel
5.16.14 from GRUB.
Note: Due to the expired APT keys in the above image, you should skip the
mirror setup during
installation which will fail unless you installed the updated Debian Ports
Archive Keyring
package.
Adrian
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Re: Sun Ultra 25 / Debian 12 install/progress
Hello Iggi, On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 11:09 +0100, Ignacio Soriano Hernandez wrote: > just a short heads-up because I did not find teh Ultra 25 on the list of > "supported" systems. We don't really have a list of supported systems, just systems that are known to work. > I wanted to give it a try and can confirm that it boots from CD and gets into > the "Select a > language" screen but the keyboard is not working. It should be working. Did you try connecting a PS/2 keyboard? Although USB should be working. > System: Sun Ultra 25, 1 GB RAM, 250 GB SATA, XVR-300, kbd/mouse connected to > the USB ports > > I will try a serial install once I find the adaptor. Good luck. Let me know if you run into any other issues. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer `. `' Physicist `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
