Re (2): Sound on sun4c

[peter_easthope]

David said,
d If it is any consolation peter, I have never been able to make audio
work with any of my sparc4's, 5's or even on this ultra 5 (which has
woody installed).

Thanks David.

d it is not like a huge priority but sometimes i might just like to hear a
mp3 as i try to do some real work.

Likewise here,  ... P.


Peter Easthope
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Re (2): Sound on sun4c

[peter_easthope]

Ben, Ian  others,

I still do not understand how Ben got
the OSS API on his Sparc.

it /dev/sndstat has always been there in OSS/Free.

Is OSS/Free installed with Debian Sparc 
2.2.19 and just waiting to be configured?
If so, where do I begin.

The only sound API I see in the dselect
list is ALSA. If there is no API already 
in this system, ALSA would appear to be 
appropriate.

Thanks, Peter E.


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Re: Re (2): Sound on sun4c

[Ian Tester]

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On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ben, Ian  others,

 I still do not understand how Ben got
 the OSS API on his Sparc.

 it /dev/sndstat has always been there in OSS/Free.

 Is OSS/Free installed with Debian Sparc
 2.2.19 and just waiting to be configured?
 If so, where do I begin.

No, it would appear that OSS/Free (and most likely the commercial OSS too)
really only supports PC sound cards. For Sparc machines we have a
seperate SparcAudio subsystem, and it lives in drivers/sbus/audio/ in the kernel
source. It supports AMD-7930, CS-4231, and DBRI sound hardware, which seems
to cover most or all SparcStation boxes. Like I said in my other post,
SparcAudio does not cover the complete OSS interface. You don't get
/dev/sndstat, but /dev/dsp /dev/audio and /dev/mixer all work. So pretty much
any OSS-compatible software should work, baring perhaps endian issues.

I don't think /dev/sndstat was ever used by any program anyway. Shell
scripts, maybe. Basically it was just a simple mechanism for users to check
their sound driver setup. Since the sound hardware is built into SparcStations,
there's very little to screw up.

 The only sound API I see in the dselect
 list is ALSA. If there is no API already
 in this system, ALSA would appear to be
 appropriate.

No, just load the sparcaudio modules or compile a kernel with them. I've always
relied on my own compiled kernels so I don't really know what's included with
the supplied kernels and modules.

Now ALSA would be interesting to get working on Sparc. I gather that almost all
developement (apart from absolutely necessary maintainance work) on OSS/Free has
ceased; pretty much everyone's moved over to ALSA for quite a while. Especially
work on the newer whiz-bang PCI sound cards, which is the whole reason why ALSA
came about in the first place. ALSA recently went into Linus' 2.5 kernel I
believe.

The existing SparcAudio drivers don't appear to be that big and it might not
take too much work to port them over to the ALSA framework. But audio isn't too
important on the old Sparc's, so don't hold your breath. Sorry.

bye

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Re (2): Sound on sun4c

[peter_easthope]

Ben Collins  others,

bc I've never heard of the sndstat device before. 

Robert Leslie, author of MAD, suggested 
I try it.  Also it is mentioned in this page.

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO/x320.html

This is copied from the page.
Previous versions of this HOWTO suggested checking the 
output of /dev/sndstat. This is no longer supported in the 
2.4 and later kernels.

There is no mention of something better replacing it.

bc My system works just fine with OSS 
applications (granted it's an ultra, but still).

I've read that the OSS API is commercial
software.  Did you install it?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] commented,
m ... someone should take the liberty to make a mini audio faq

They exist, although none that I've seen
is comprehensive or current.  The software 
is evolving and good documentation is unlikely 
to appear until it stabilizes.

Regards Peter E.



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