Re: STOP-A on serial line

2005-10-10 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Hartwig Atrops wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
  The BREAK key.
 
 That was my first idea. But I can't find a break key on the DEC keyboard.
 
  Or in some cases, turn the terminal off and then back
  on (my Netra X1 is sensitive to this -- I have to drop to the LOM
  before turning off the terminal or it senses it as a BREAK and halts
  the OS :)
 
 Does not help :-( Still tries to boot via network.

Is this one of the cases where some obscure key-sequence like \r~^b is
applicable? Can't find where I've noted this down.

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Re: STOP-A on serial line

2005-10-10 Thread Patrick Finnegan
On Monday 10 October 2005 00:15, F. Kappen wrote:
 Hartwig Atrops wrote:
  Hi all.
 
  I want to do some tests with Debian Sarge on an Ultra2 and try to
  make a barbone work again. Added CPU and memory - since this
  machine has no graphics, I attached a terminal (DEC VT 420) to
  serial A.
 
  How can I send STOP-A from my serial terminal? The machine tries to
  boot from network. That's not what I want.

 Hartwig,

 try HELP on the SILO-prompt. This should bring you to the ok-prompt
 of the machine.

I think halt is what you mean, not help.

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Re: STOP-A on serial line

2005-10-10 Thread Hartwig Atrops
Hi.

On Sunday 09 October 2005 20:59, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
 Hartwig Atrops declared on Sunday 09 October 2005 12:18 pm:
  Hi.
 
   The BREAK key.
 
  That was my first idea. But I can't find a break key on the DEC
  keyboard.

 IIRC, F5 should be mapped to it, assuming a VT220 or newer.  If that
 doesn't work, look at the keyboard setup menu (F3 does setup) and make
 sure that a key is assigned to be BREAK.

F5 is the solution.

Thanks for all the replies,

   Hartwig


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Kernel 2.6 on Ultra2 (was: STOP-A on serial line)

2005-10-10 Thread Hartwig Atrops
Hi all.

STOP-A problem solved, I just install Debian Sarge via serial terminal. The 
base system works, reboot was ok, now the additional tasks are being 
installed. Back at 9600 Baud - that's how I started years ago :-)

System: Ultra2, single 168 MHz CPU, 256 MB Ram, no graphics/keyboard. Network 
is ok, so I will be able to ssh. Additional HVD-SCSI-Controller.

I want to use the system as a file server. I want to attach my storage array 
(HVD), this means I need RAID and LVM support.

I want to do this with a custom kernel configured by me (no modules - I know 
which hardware to support). Up to now I stick to the 2.4 kernel on my various 
machines, I would like to give 2.6 a chance.

What to use? Vanilla kernel from kernel.org? That's what I did with 2.4. 
Debian source package? No experience yet, which packages do I need? I would 
prefere to start with the vanilla kernel.

As fare as I know Sarge comes with gcc etc. sufficient for kernel 2.6?

Regards,

   Hartwig


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STOP-A on serial line

2005-10-09 Thread Hartwig Atrops
Hi all.

I want to do some tests with Debian Sarge on an Ultra2 and try to make a 
barbone work again. Added CPU and memory - since this machine has no 
graphics, I attached a terminal (DEC VT 420) to serial A.

How can I send STOP-A from my serial terminal? The machine tries to boot from 
network. That's not what I want.

Thanks,

   Hartwig


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Re: STOP-A on serial line

2005-10-09 Thread Shawn Boyette
On 10/9/05, Hartwig Atrops [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can I send STOP-A from my serial terminal? The machine tries to boot from
 network. That's not what I want.

The BREAK key. Or in some cases, turn the terminal off and then back
on (my Netra X1 is sensitive to this -- I have to drop to the LOM
before turning off the terminal or it senses it as a BREAK and halts
the OS :)

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Re: STOP-A on serial line

2005-10-09 Thread Sébastien Bernard

Hartwig Atrops a écrit :


Hi all.

I want to do some tests with Debian Sarge on an Ultra2 and try to make a 
barbone work again. Added CPU and memory - since this machine has no 
graphics, I attached a terminal (DEC VT 420) to serial A.


How can I send STOP-A from my serial terminal? The machine tries to boot from 
network. That's not what I want.


Thanks,

  Hartwig


 


Yes, Send a break on the line you get you the same effect.
Break is obtained using the Ctrl-A F combo using minicom.

Seb.


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Re: STOP-A on serial line

2005-10-09 Thread Hartwig Atrops
Hi.

 The BREAK key.

That was my first idea. But I can't find a break key on the DEC keyboard.

 Or in some cases, turn the terminal off and then back
 on (my Netra X1 is sensitive to this -- I have to drop to the LOM
 before turning off the terminal or it senses it as a BREAK and halts
 the OS :)

Does not help :-( Still tries to boot via network.

I think there is an SBUS graphics card in my spare parts box. I'd like to 
avoid using that, but ...

Thanks,

   Hartwig


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Re: STOP-A on serial line

2005-10-09 Thread Jim Mintha
On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 06:58:02PM +0200, Hartwig Atrops wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 I want to do some tests with Debian Sarge on an Ultra2 and try to make a 
 barbone work again. Added CPU and memory - since this machine has no 
 graphics, I attached a terminal (DEC VT 420) to serial A.
 
 How can I send STOP-A from my serial terminal? The machine tries to boot from 
 network. That's not what I want.

You need to send a break.  Most serial terminal programs (or real
serial terminals) will have a way to send a break.

Jim

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Re: STOP-A on serial line

2005-10-09 Thread ndade
On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 07:18:59PM +0200, Hartwig Atrops wrote:
  The BREAK key.
 That was my first idea. But I can't find a break key on the DEC keyboard.
 
  Or in some cases, turn the terminal off and then back
  on (my Netra X1 is sensitive to this -- I have to drop to the LOM
 Does not help :-( Still tries to boot via network.

If you're good with wires, you can try this: briefly ground the TX signal. 
A break in rs232 is sent by holding the signal low from start bit through
when the high stop bit would be expected.

You have to ground the signal going into the inverter chip and not the signal
on the wire, which is at 12V and inverted. The inverter chip is usually a
small Maxim brand part. Google for its pinout and use a volt meter to trace
the wiring.


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Re: STOP-A on serial line

2005-10-09 Thread Patrick Finnegan
Hartwig Atrops declared on Sunday 09 October 2005 12:18 pm:
 Hi.

  The BREAK key.

 That was my first idea. But I can't find a break key on the DEC
 keyboard.

IIRC, F5 should be mapped to it, assuming a VT220 or newer.  If that 
doesn't work, look at the keyboard setup menu (F3 does setup) and make 
sure that a key is assigned to be BREAK.

Pat
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Re: STOP-A on serial line

2005-10-09 Thread F. Kappen
Hartwig Atrops wrote:

 Hi all.

 I want to do some tests with Debian Sarge on an Ultra2 and try to make a
 barbone work again. Added CPU and memory - since this machine has no
 graphics, I attached a terminal (DEC VT 420) to serial A.

 How can I send STOP-A from my serial terminal? The machine tries to boot from
 network. That's not what I want.

 Thanks,

Hartwig

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Hartwig,

try HELP on the SILO-prompt. This should bring you to the ok-prompt of the
machine.

HTH
Friedhelm



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