Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-23 Thread Eric Nichols




That did it!  

So here is the beginning and end of the story.  I booted with the
netboot (sarge) cd.
I received the following error and it stopped:


Setting up filesystem please wait

busybox[8]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188

busybox[9]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188

busybox[11]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188

busybox[12]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188

init[10]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188

busybox[13]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188

Thomas Poindessous wrote:

Next I used the bottom information so at the kernel boot prompt rather
than hit enter type the following:
linux debian-installer/framebuffer=false

The same error shows up but about 3 seconds later the install continues.

I hit a bit of a bump in the road with the network card and dhcp &
installing from FTP sites.  It might be a problem with the new
installer.
Many thanks for all of the assistance!



  On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 06:55:53PM +0300, Meelis Roos wrote:
  
  

  

  $ bterm -f unifont.bgf
  

  
  
And sparc64 also hangs on running bterm.

  
   bterm needs a frame buffer.  Are you installing over a serial line?  If not
what video card do you have in your machines?
  

Yes, I noticed it does not work on serial :)

I tried both Sparcstation 5 and Ultra Neterprise 2 on the console, using
sbus cg6 framebuffer in both cases. Have not tried it on another sparc64
with ati mach64 graphics, will do if I get time.

  
  
Can you test if without framebuffer to be sure that the problem is with
framebuffer ? Thanks.

Just netboot with this param "debian-installer/framebuffer=false"

Thanks !

  





Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-23 Thread Thomas Poindessous
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 06:55:53PM +0300, Meelis Roos wrote:
> > > > $ bterm -f unifont.bgf
> >
> > > And sparc64 also hangs on running bterm.
> >
> >  bterm needs a frame buffer.  Are you installing over a serial line?  If not
> > what video card do you have in your machines?
> 
> Yes, I noticed it does not work on serial :)
> 
> I tried both Sparcstation 5 and Ultra Neterprise 2 on the console, using
> sbus cg6 framebuffer in both cases. Have not tried it on another sparc64
> with ati mach64 graphics, will do if I get time.

Can you test if without framebuffer to be sure that the problem is with
framebuffer ? Thanks.

Just netboot with this param "debian-installer/framebuffer=false"

Thanks !

-- 
Thomas Poindessous



Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-22 Thread Mauricio

At 14:22 +0200 4/21/04, Jan Houstek wrote:

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Eric Nichols wrote:


 Needless to say I'm stuck.  Is there a parameter I need to put in before
 boot or will this work at all on this old box?


I use Woody with no problems on SS 5. Try it! (Moreover, it's not
difficult to switch a running woody system to sarge.)


How does one do that?  What would I gain by uprading my IPX to sarge?



Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-22 Thread Mauricio

At 08:35 -0400 4/21/04, Eric Nichols wrote:
Unfortunately it gets as far as the busybox errors and that's it.  I 
let it sit for 30 minutes...


Woody would seem to be the next obvious path but my floppy drive is 
busted.  Does anyone have a boot CD image that has the Woody 
installer for SPARC?  I checked the mirrors and all that are there 
are floppy images.


	When I installed woody in my IPX, I was not able to net 
install no matter whether I used my netbsd (Dec 5000/25) or Solaris 9 
(SS20) boxes.  So, I burned the 1st ISO disk for woody and booted 
from there.  Once it booted, I told it to download all the crap from 
the debian ftp site and all was well.




Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-22 Thread Meelis Roos
> > > $ bterm -f unifont.bgf
>
> > And sparc64 also hangs on running bterm.
>
>  bterm needs a frame buffer.  Are you installing over a serial line?  If not
> what video card do you have in your machines?

Yes, I noticed it does not work on serial :)

I tried both Sparcstation 5 and Ultra Neterprise 2 on the console, using
sbus cg6 framebuffer in both cases. Have not tried it on another sparc64
with ati mach64 graphics, will do if I get time.

-- 
Meelis Roos ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-22 Thread James Morrison

Meelis Roos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > > umount: /initrd: Invalid argument
> > > (and hangs here)
> 
> And it hangs on sparc64 too (Ultra Enterprise 2 netbooted).
> 
> > can you help us to debug this one ?
> > After this umount, it should launch bterm and main-menu.
> >
> > Can you netboot with this argument "init=/bin/sh"
> >
> > and then :
> > $ mount -t devfs /dev /dev
> > $ bterm -f unifont.bgf

> And sparc64 also hangs on running bterm.

 bterm needs a frame buffer.  Are you installing over a serial line?  If not
what video card do you have in your machines?
 
> -- 
> Meelis Roos ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 

Jim



Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-22 Thread Meelis Roos
> > umount: /initrd: Invalid argument
> > (and hangs here)

And it hangs on sparc64 too (Ultra Enterprise 2 netbooted).

> can you help us to debug this one ?
> After this umount, it should launch bterm and main-menu.
>
> Can you netboot with this argument "init=/bin/sh"
>
> and then :
> $ mount -t devfs /dev /dev
> $ bterm -f unifont.bgf

And sparc64 also hangs on running bterm.

-- 
Meelis Roos ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-22 Thread Meelis Roos
> > umount: /initrd: Invalid argument
> > (and hangs here)
>
> can you help us to debug this one ?
> After this umount, it should launch bterm and main-menu.
>
> Can you netboot with this argument "init=/bin/sh"
>
> and then :
> $ mount -t devfs /dev /dev

This succeeds.

> $ bterm -f unifont.bgf

This hangs. It also doesn't respond to ^C and ^Z (maybe it doesn't have
to).

-- 
Meelis Roos ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-22 Thread David A. Riggs

Gary Parker wrote:

Eric, what speed processor is your SS5?

Afaik, the 170MHz SS5 won't run the installer properly because of some
problem with python iirc.



I did a Woody net install (and promptly upgraded to Sarge) on my
170MHz TurboSPARC SPARCstation 5 without any problems.

It's been running 2.4.21 for several months with moderate load,
never had any instability that people attribute to this CPU.

- David A. Riggs 




Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-21 Thread Thomas Poindessous
On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 05:40:08PM +0300, Meelis Roos wrote:
> I received the following output from sarge installer 20040315:
> 
> Warning: unable to open an initial console.

This is an old bug which is corrected in unstable.

> umount: /initrd: Invalid argument
> (and hangs here)

can you help us to debug this one ?
After this umount, it should launch bterm and main-menu.

Can you netboot with this argument "init=/bin/sh"

and then :
$ mount -t devfs /dev /dev
$ bterm -f unifont.bgf

Thanks.

-- 
Thomas Poindessous



Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-21 Thread Meelis Roos
I tried out sarge and sid installers on a 70 MHz SS5 with 64M RAM and
original 550M HDD and had similar problems (tried only netboot install):

> The entire install halted with the following lines:

> Setting up filesystem please wait
> busybox[8]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
> busybox[9]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
> busybox[11]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
> busybox[12]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
> init[10]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
> busybox[13]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188

These are not fatal, my working sparcs display a lot of these 188's with
2.4 kernels but still work. 2.6 kernel does not emit these messages.

> Needless to say I'm stuck.  Is there a parameter I need to put in
> before boot or will this work at all on this old box?

I received the following output from sarge installer 20040315:

Freeing unused kernel memory: 132k freed
Warning: unable to open an initial console.
busybox[7]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
init[1]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!
 Press L1-A to return to the boot prom

And from sid 20040411:

Freeing unused kernel memory: 132k freed
Setting up filesystem, please wait ...
busybox[7]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
busybox[8]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
busybox[10]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
busybox[11]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
init[9]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
busybox[12]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
umount: /initrd: Invalid argument
(and hangs here)

Leaving out the noise of Unimpl..., it's the same result as on mips
(R4k Indy). Seems to be a more general debian-installer problem to me.

-- 
Meelis Roos ([EMAIL PROTECTED])




Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-21 Thread Jan Houstek
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Admar Schoonen wrote:

> Couldn't you try a net install?

I'd also recommend net install. The most easy way is IMHO via RARP+TFTP.
All you need to do is

1) install rarpd on some machine in the network
2) edit /etc/ethers (format si   at one line).
3) start rarpd
4) install tftpd (and enable it in /etc/inetd.conf)
5) get proper image and rename (or symlink) it, you find the proper
   name in tftpd log (the name is clients IP adress in in hex, e.g.
   C0A80101).

For more info see
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch-install-methods.html#s-install-tftp

-- Jan Houstek



Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-21 Thread Alexey Nezhdanov
В сообщении от 21 Апрель 2004 16:50 Admar Schoonen написал(a):
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 08:35:02AM -0400, Eric Nichols wrote:
> > Unfortunately it gets as far as the busybox errors and that's it.  I let
> > it sit for 30 minutes...
> >
> > Woody would seem to be the next obvious path but my floppy drive is
> > busted.  Does anyone have a boot CD image that has the Woody installer
> > for SPARC?  I checked the mirrors and all that are there are floppy
> > images.
>
> Couldn't you try a net install?
>
> I tried a net install with sarge last sunday on my blade 100. The net
> install images didn't work (I believe I had the same error as you, but
> I'm not sure, sorry).
>
> Then I did a net install with woody and that went smooth. Upgraded to
> sid as soon as possible though :-)
>
> Admar

woody tftp image doesn't work for me (onto sb2k) (as well as d-i beta3) but
http://www.phunnypharm.org/pub/for/sparc-folks/disks-sparc/current/sparc64/tftpboot.img
 
works. It is the modifyed woody tftp image.

Though it is not official.

-- 
Respectfully
Alexey Nezhdanov




RE: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-21 Thread Gary Parker
Eric, what speed processor is your SS5?

Afaik, the 170MHz SS5 won't run the installer properly because of some
problem with python iirc.

The slower models used a slightly different processor type that will install
fine.

Can't type more now as I have a meeting to goto but that should be a
pointer...

G.
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Nichols [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 21 April 2004 11:53
> To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Sarge on a Sparc5
> 
> 
> I recently inherited a SparcStation 5 from a friend (96meg 
> memory 2gig 
> drive).  I have a very old version of SuSE running on it with 
> openldap 
> and I wanted to experiment with debian.  I tried loading 
> woody by floppy 
> but found the floppy drive is broken.



Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-21 Thread Antonello Iunco
On Wednesday 21 April 2004 14:22, Jan Houstek wrote:

> > Needless to say I'm stuck.  Is there a parameter I need to put in before
> > boot or will this work at all on this old box?
> I use Woody with no problems on SS 5. Try it! (Moreover, it's not
> difficult to switch a running woody system to sarge.)

Hi Jan,
as for the cdrom isos for SPARC, I obtained a Woody install image via Jigdo, 
and it worked flawlessly.

Bye
Antonello



Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-21 Thread Admar Schoonen
On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 08:35:02AM -0400, Eric Nichols wrote:
> Unfortunately it gets as far as the busybox errors and that's it.  I let 
> it sit for 30 minutes...
> 
> Woody would seem to be the next obvious path but my floppy drive is 
> busted.  Does anyone have a boot CD image that has the Woody installer 
> for SPARC?  I checked the mirrors and all that are there are floppy images.
Couldn't you try a net install?

I tried a net install with sarge last sunday on my blade 100. The net
install images didn't work (I believe I had the same error as you, but
I'm not sure, sorry).

Then I did a net install with woody and that went smooth. Upgraded to
sid as soon as possible though :-)

Admar



Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-21 Thread Jan Houstek
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Eric Nichols wrote:

> Needless to say I'm stuck.  Is there a parameter I need to put in before
> boot or will this work at all on this old box?

I use Woody with no problems on SS 5. Try it! (Moreover, it's not
difficult to switch a running woody system to sarge.)

-- Jan Houstek



Re: Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-21 Thread Eric Nichols
Unfortunately it gets as far as the busybox errors and that's it.  I let 
it sit for 30 minutes...


Woody would seem to be the next obvious path but my floppy drive is 
busted.  Does anyone have a boot CD image that has the Woody installer 
for SPARC?  I checked the mirrors and all that are there are floppy images.


Many thanks for the quick responses from Robert and Jan!

Schaefer, Robert (PS) wrote:


I'm not sure about Sarge in particular, but I do know Debian runs fine on a
Sparc5, as I'm running it on my SparcStation5.  How long did you wait when
it put out the setting up filesystem message?  I get lots of Unimplemented
messages, but that doesn't usually stop things from working, you may just
have to be patient.

-Original Message-
From: Eric Nichols [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:54 AM

To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
Subject: Sarge on a Sparc5


I recently inherited a SparcStation 5 from a friend (96meg memory 2gig 
drive).  I have a very old version of SuSE running on it with openldap 
and I wanted to experiment with debian.  I tried loading woody by floppy 
but found the floppy drive is broken.


So I moved on and downloaded the latest cdrom-mini.iso (3/15/04) and 
started the install.  I selected the boot install from the menu and 
watched it autodetect my hardware etc.


The entire install halted with the following lines:

Setting up filesystem please wait
busybox[8]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
busybox[9]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
busybox[11]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
busybox[12]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
init[10]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
busybox[13]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188


Needless to say I'm stuck.  Is there a parameter I need to put in before 
boot or will this work at all on this old box?

Many Thanks
Eric


 





Sarge on a Sparc5

2004-04-21 Thread Eric Nichols
I recently inherited a SparcStation 5 from a friend (96meg memory 2gig 
drive).  I have a very old version of SuSE running on it with openldap 
and I wanted to experiment with debian.  I tried loading woody by floppy 
but found the floppy drive is broken.


So I moved on and downloaded the latest cdrom-mini.iso (3/15/04) and 
started the install.  I selected the boot install from the menu and 
watched it autodetect my hardware etc.


The entire install halted with the following lines:

Setting up filesystem please wait
busybox[8]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
busybox[9]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
busybox[11]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
busybox[12]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
init[10]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188
busybox[13]: Unimplemented SPARC system call 188


Needless to say I'm stuck.  Is there a parameter I need to put in before 
boot or will this work at all on this old box?

Many Thanks
Eric