Re: Bug#242343: debian-installer beta 3 sparc netinst image failed to boot up on Ultra10

2004-04-09 Thread GOTO Masanori
Hi!

At Mon, 05 Apr 2004 22:57:10 -0700,
Joshua Kwan wrote:
> [CC:ing debian-sparc to notify the other interested parties.]
> 
> On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:48:57 +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote:
> > Package: debian-installer
> > Version: beta3
> > Severity: grave
> 
> Aha. That's a known broken version, sorry. debian-cd was using a bad
> silo.conf. See below for more details...
> 
> > boot: linux root=/dev/hdc mount=devfs,dall rw
> ...
> > Please fix it or teach me how to fix it if you know something about
> > it.
> 
> Try linux root=/dev/rd/0 devfs=mount rw and see if that works. Or just try
> a daily CD image. I think manty fixed everything related to this issue,
> please notify us if you find otherwise.

Unfortunatelly, no.  I tried something those command line arguments
like you wrote, but the same VFS error messages were displayed.

Regards,
-- gotom



Re: Bug#242343: debian-installer beta 3 sparc netinst image failed to boot up on Ultra10

2004-04-06 Thread Joshua Kwan
[CC:ing debian-sparc to notify the other interested parties.]

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:48:57 +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote:
> Package: debian-installer
> Version: beta3
> Severity: grave

Aha. That's a known broken version, sorry. debian-cd was using a bad
silo.conf. See below for more details...

>   boot: linux root=/dev/hdc mount=devfs,dall rw
...
> Please fix it or teach me how to fix it if you know something about
> it.

Try linux root=/dev/rd/0 devfs=mount rw and see if that works. Or just try
a daily CD image. I think manty fixed everything related to this issue,
please notify us if you find otherwise.

-- 
Joshua Kwan



RE: Sparc netinst

2003-11-11 Thread Tennis Smith

Hi,

Well, I'm almost there... Everthing is installed. But when I do the final
reboot after installation, the systems goes a constant reboot loop. Its as
if its still trying to reboot Solaris.

How do I fix this?


Example output:
Rebooting with command:
Boot device: /iommu/sbus/[EMAIL PROTECTED],40/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED],80/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0  File and args:
SunOS Release 5.5.1 Version Generic_103640-12 [UNIX(R) System V Release 4.0]
Copyright (c) 1983-1996, Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Cannot mount root on
/[EMAIL PROTECTED],e000/[EMAIL PROTECTED],e0001000/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED],40/[EMAIL PROTECTED],800
000/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:a fstype ufs
panic: vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root
rebooting...
Sesetting ...


TIA,
-Tennis


>-Original Message-
>From: Dalibor Topic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:25
>To: Tennis Smith
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Sparc netinst
>
>
>Tennis Smith wrote:
>> Hi Dalibor,
>>
>> Thanks!  Your writeup is a _big_ help.  I'm now up to installing the base
>> system over the network.  The dialog box's default url is:
>> http://auric.debian.org/debian which is incorrect.  What should it be?
>
>Hi Tennis,
>
>I haven't used Bill's images myself, so I'm not sure. I assume that
>ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian should work, but I don't remeber for sure. I
>purged those bits from my memory as soon as possible ;)
>
>cheers,
>dalibor topic
>
>



RE: Sparc netinst

2003-11-11 Thread Tennis Smith
Thanks, that worked too. ;-)

-Tennis

>-Original Message-
>From: Dalibor Topic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:25
>To: Tennis Smith
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Sparc netinst
>
>
>Tennis Smith wrote:
>> Hi Dalibor,
>>
>> Thanks!  Your writeup is a _big_ help.  I'm now up to installing the base
>> system over the network.  The dialog box's default url is:
>> http://auric.debian.org/debian which is incorrect.  What should it be?
>
>Hi Tennis,
>
>I haven't used Bill's images myself, so I'm not sure. I assume that
>ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian should work, but I don't remeber for sure. I
>purged those bits from my memory as soon as possible ;)
>
>cheers,
>dalibor topic
>
>



RE: Sparc netinst

2003-11-11 Thread Tennis Smith

Hi Dalibor,

Thanks!  Your writeup is a _big_ help.  I'm now up to installing the base
system over the network.  The dialog box's default url is:
http://auric.debian.org/debian which is incorrect.  What should it be?

TIA,
-Tennis

>-Original Message-
>From: Dalibor Topic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 04:45
>To: Tennis Smith
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Sparc netinst
>
>
>Hi Tennis,
>
>Tennis Smith wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to netinst to an ss20.  I have a tftp server setup on
>a win2k PC
>> (funny huh?) and I'm trying to netboot with your latest sparc-mini.iso.
>> Unfortuntely, it doesn't seem that the OpenBoot values for this
>scenario are
>> very well documented. I looked in the Debian docs and none of
>the variants
>> on this worked for me.
>
>I doubt you can netboot from an iso. An iso image file usually is the
>image of a CD filesystem, which is supposed to be burned to a CDROM, and
>ran from there. TFTP on the other hand requires images to be loaded to
>be specially tagged for TFTP transfer over the network.
>
>I did a netinst on my sparc station 5 last weekend (and on a hamilton
>clone), and I went through some (in retrospective avoidable) trouble to
>get my system to run so here's my advice:
>
>First of all, make sure you read the file
>http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/README.txt for a
>lot of useful information. I assume the file you're looking for is
>http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/sparc32/tftpboot.img
>. Also Read the installation guide located here:
>http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/doc/install.en.html
>
>Install tcpdump or some equivalent software of your server. It will
>prove useful when you debug boot failures. Install a RARP deamon.
>Install a TFTP deamon.
>
>When the sparc fires up, press STOP-A and type in boot net on the
>OpenBoot prompt. The sparc will send out a request for an IP over the
>ethernet connection, and when it gets one, it will ask for an image to
>boot from.
>
>First make sure you set up the rarp deamon on the server. All other
>methods for address resolution (bootp, dhcp) didn't work that well for
>me. RARP should work with any sparc box, I guess. And it's very easy to
>setup: just add the hardware address of the sparc (displayed on bootup)
>to /etc/ethers and give it a free ip from your local network. So if your
>  server is 192.168.1.1 you could give it 192.168.1.3 for example, if
>noone else on your LAN is using the IP.
>
>There is some inet.d killing and restarting magic involved in all this.
>I ended  up killing inet.d for good, and just running rarpd from the
>command line in debug mode. Tcpdump showed a successful ARP request, so
>that was done.
>
>The next thing the sparc wanted was the kernel. In order to give it a
>kernel, you need a configured TFTP deamon, and image directory, and an
>image file. The image you've got already from Bill's server, the rest
>you have to do yourself:
>
>Make a directory to store tftp boot images in. I used /tftpboot. Then
>configure the tftp deamon to look into that directory for files. You may
>find the tftp deamon to be configured to look somewere else in your
>inet.d configuration file. Do the inet.d reloading/restaring magic and
>wave a dead chicken.
>
>Looking at tcpdump, you should see the sparc sending TFTP requests for a
>specific file, some hex values 'dot' SUN4M for example. Create a link
>tftpboot.img to that file (or just copy it if you're on windows). If all
>goes well, you should see a ton of output scrolling by on your tcpdump
>window and the sparc should display a hex counter to show you that it's
>loading the image.
>
>You should be greeted by a friendly penguin framebuffer logo, and the
>kernel loading messages scrolling by. Now, normally, you should see the
>debian installer welcome screen and can go on installing.
>
>If on the other hand the kernel hangs itself up in a loop requesting
>something about SCSI, then make sure you reset the NVRAM to factory
>settings. It should be STOP-N or STOP-D, I think, and then powercycle
>the box. That bug took me a day trying to figure out. Thanks to the
>friendly folks on #gentoo-sparc on freenode for their help, I could get
>past that one ;)
>
>Which brings me to another point: IRC. While you're installing the
>sparc, and you have no real clue about sparcs, an IRC connection could
>prove very helpful. I couldn't find a debian specific sparc channel
>anywhere, so I'd recommend #gentoo-sparc for newbies. Although gentoo
>doesn't have TF

Re: Sparc netinst

2003-11-11 Thread Dalibor Topic

Tennis Smith wrote:

Hi Dalibor,

Thanks!  Your writeup is a _big_ help.  I'm now up to installing the base
system over the network.  The dialog box's default url is:
http://auric.debian.org/debian which is incorrect.  What should it be?


Hi Tennis,

I haven't used Bill's images myself, so I'm not sure. I assume that 
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian should work, but I don't remeber for sure. I 
purged those bits from my memory as soon as possible ;)


cheers,
dalibor topic



Re: Re: Sparc netinst

2003-11-11 Thread Steve Haavik
What have you done so far? You said you have a TFTP server (which one are
you using?) Do you have an RARP server? If not, you can find one at
http://www.panix.com/~perin/#rarp (look near the bottom of the page. It's
supposed to work on Win2k but I can't get it to work on my XP box.)

What I normally do when I'm trying to net boot a new system is:
1. setup arp and rarp per the Debian docs.
2. try to netboot the machine.
3. check the TFTP logs to get the correct name for the bootimage (I never
get it right until I look at the logs.)
4. copy/rename/link/whatever the bootimage so it has that name.
5. try to netboot the machine.




Re: Sparc netinst

2003-11-11 Thread Dalibor Topic

Hi Tennis,

Tennis Smith wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to netinst to an ss20.  I have a tftp server setup on a win2k PC
(funny huh?) and I'm trying to netboot with your latest sparc-mini.iso.
Unfortuntely, it doesn't seem that the OpenBoot values for this scenario are
very well documented. I looked in the Debian docs and none of the variants
on this worked for me.


I doubt you can netboot from an iso. An iso image file usually is the 
image of a CD filesystem, which is supposed to be burned to a CDROM, and 
ran from there. TFTP on the other hand requires images to be loaded to 
be specially tagged for TFTP transfer over the network.


I did a netinst on my sparc station 5 last weekend (and on a hamilton 
clone), and I went through some (in retrospective avoidable) trouble to 
get my system to run so here's my advice:


First of all, make sure you read the file 
http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/README.txt for a 
lot of useful information. I assume the file you're looking for is 
http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/sparc32/tftpboot.img 
. Also Read the installation guide located here: 
http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/doc/install.en.html


Install tcpdump or some equivalent software of your server. It will 
prove useful when you debug boot failures. Install a RARP deamon. 
Install a TFTP deamon.


When the sparc fires up, press STOP-A and type in boot net on the 
OpenBoot prompt. The sparc will send out a request for an IP over the 
ethernet connection, and when it gets one, it will ask for an image to 
boot from.


First make sure you set up the rarp deamon on the server. All other 
methods for address resolution (bootp, dhcp) didn't work that well for 
me. RARP should work with any sparc box, I guess. And it's very easy to 
setup: just add the hardware address of the sparc (displayed on bootup) 
to /etc/ethers and give it a free ip from your local network. So if your 
 server is 192.168.1.1 you could give it 192.168.1.3 for example, if 
noone else on your LAN is using the IP.


There is some inet.d killing and restarting magic involved in all this. 
I ended  up killing inet.d for good, and just running rarpd from the 
command line in debug mode. Tcpdump showed a successful ARP request, so 
that was done.


The next thing the sparc wanted was the kernel. In order to give it a 
kernel, you need a configured TFTP deamon, and image directory, and an 
image file. The image you've got already from Bill's server, the rest 
you have to do yourself:


Make a directory to store tftp boot images in. I used /tftpboot. Then 
configure the tftp deamon to look into that directory for files. You may 
find the tftp deamon to be configured to look somewere else in your 
inet.d configuration file. Do the inet.d reloading/restaring magic and 
wave a dead chicken.


Looking at tcpdump, you should see the sparc sending TFTP requests for a 
specific file, some hex values 'dot' SUN4M for example. Create a link 
tftpboot.img to that file (or just copy it if you're on windows). If all 
goes well, you should see a ton of output scrolling by on your tcpdump 
window and the sparc should display a hex counter to show you that it's 
loading the image.


You should be greeted by a friendly penguin framebuffer logo, and the 
kernel loading messages scrolling by. Now, normally, you should see the 
debian installer welcome screen and can go on installing.


If on the other hand the kernel hangs itself up in a loop requesting 
something about SCSI, then make sure you reset the NVRAM to factory 
settings. It should be STOP-N or STOP-D, I think, and then powercycle 
the box. That bug took me a day trying to figure out. Thanks to the 
friendly folks on #gentoo-sparc on freenode for their help, I could get 
past that one ;)


Which brings me to another point: IRC. While you're installing the 
sparc, and you have no real clue about sparcs, an IRC connection could 
prove very helpful. I couldn't find a debian specific sparc channel 
anywhere, so I'd recommend #gentoo-sparc for newbies. Although gentoo 
doesn't have TFTP images, the friendly folks there seem to have done 
more than a few TFTP based installations in their lives, and are of 
great help.


So you've got your box to boot with the kernel from Ben, and a ready for 
an install. Debian will ask you if you want to partition the disks. 
Avoid one mistake I did: don't use a single partition for the whole / . 
Make a small /boot partition of say 50M and you'll be fine. Otherwise, 
SILO (the kernel loader) may not be able to load the kernel, and will 
not be able to write itself to disk, *after* you've installed debian, 
and you may have to re-install from scratch. The error message you get 
from SILO in woody is not very helpful, but Mike Michlmayr helped me 
interpret it properly. [1]


Finally, another mistake I made not worth repeating: I installed my box 
with the images from woody, and after it finally installed (after a day 
and a h

Re: Sparc netinst

2003-11-11 Thread Leith Stevens

Hi Tennis,

Make sure rarpd is running on your network so your ss20 can get an IP.

Also, you will need to net boot off a tftpboot.img, not a .iso. You'll
probably have to rename the tftpboot.img to something different, which
is machine dependant. I just looked through the logs to see what my
machine was asking for and changed the name of tftpboot.img to that.

I did this all under linux, not win2k. No good reason why it shouldnt
work... as long as your tftpd and rarpd implementations are standards
compliant ;-)

Leith

Tennis Smith wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to netinst to an ss20.  I have a tftp server setup on a win2k PC
(funny huh?) and I'm trying to netboot with your latest sparc-mini.iso.
Unfortuntely, it doesn't seem that the OpenBoot values for this scenario are
very well documented. I looked in the Debian docs and none of the variants
on this worked for me.

Is there a better writeup somewhere of how to do this? Also, has anyone ever
managed to get this to work from a win2k machine?

TIA,
-Tennis







Re: Re: Sparc netinst

2003-11-11 Thread Tennis Smith

Hi,

I'm trying to netinst to an ss20.  I have a tftp server setup on a win2k PC
(funny huh?) and I'm trying to netboot with your latest sparc-mini.iso.
Unfortuntely, it doesn't seem that the OpenBoot values for this scenario are
very well documented. I looked in the Debian docs and none of the variants
on this worked for me.

Is there a better writeup somewhere of how to do this? Also, has anyone ever
managed to get this to work from a win2k machine?

TIA,
-Tennis



Re: Sparc netinst

2003-09-01 Thread Lino Moretto
Hi Ben,
unfortunately I could not boot from that image... my Netra complains about
an "Illegal Instruction" at the very inital stage, when trying to load the
initial ramdisk...

>boot:
>Uncompressing image...
>Loading initial ramdisk
>Illegal Instruction
>ok

Lino

- Original Message - 
From: "Ben Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lino Moretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: Sparc netinst


> http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/sparc-netinst.iso
>
> This one contains rescue.bin and drivers.tgz, so you should be able to
> do just about any configuration and then use network install, or woody
> CD's for the base system.
>
> -- 
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> Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/
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Re: Sparc netinst

2003-08-23 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 01:13:43PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/sparc-netinst.iso
> 
> This one contains rescue.bin and drivers.tgz, so you should be able to
> do just about any configuration and then use network install, or woody
> CD's for the base system.

There's now also a:

http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/sparc-mini.iso

It's exactly the same as the netinst image, but with the addition of the
basedebs.tar, which means you should be able to do a full install from a
42Meg image.  Now I can finally make those cdr-business-cards :)

-- 
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Re: Sparc netinst

2003-08-22 Thread Ben Collins
http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/sparc-netinst.iso

This one contains rescue.bin and drivers.tgz, so you should be able to
do just about any configuration and then use network install, or woody
CD's for the base system.

-- 
Debian - http://www.debian.org/
Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/
Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/
WatchGuard - http://www.watchguard.com/



Re: Sparc netinst

2003-08-22 Thread Lino Moretto
Again,
thanks a lot.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ben Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lino Moretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: Sparc netinst


> On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 06:33:27PM +0200, Lino Moretto wrote:
> > Ben,
> > thank u very much... one more question: the installer contained in the
"old"
> > netinst.iso was actrually looking for rescue.bin inside images-2.88,
while
> > the "official" CDROM #1 seems to have only the 1.44M version. Is it
possible
> > to instruct the install program to look only for a rescue.bin file
instead
> > of sun4u/images-2.88/rescue.bin?
>
> No. Installing the stuff on your current r1 CD is pointless, as it wont
> be able to work.
>
> The netinst.iso I will create will have the disks-sparc/current/ on the
> image aswell, so you can install kernel drivers/modules from that image,
> and the base packages using your existing CD's.
>
> -- 
> Debian - http://www.debian.org/
> Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/
> Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/
> WatchGuard - http://www.watchguard.com/



Re: Sparc netinst

2003-08-22 Thread Lino Moretto
Ben,
thank u very much... one more question: the installer contained in the "old"
netinst.iso was actrually looking for rescue.bin inside images-2.88, while
the "official" CDROM #1 seems to have only the 1.44M version. Is it possible
to instruct the install program to look only for a rescue.bin file instead
of sun4u/images-2.88/rescue.bin?

Lino

- Original Message - 
From: "Ben Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lino Moretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Sparc netinst


> On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 05:26:50PM +0200, Lino Moretto wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > anyone has an idea of why
> > http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/netinst.iso.bz2
has
> > been removed? I'm trying to install woody on a Netra T1/105 and the
> > installation process on the original 3.0_r1 CD does not recognize my
CDROM
>
> I'll make a new one.
>
> -- 
> Debian - http://www.debian.org/
> Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/
> Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/
> WatchGuard - http://www.watchguard.com/



Re: Sparc netinst

2003-08-22 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 06:33:27PM +0200, Lino Moretto wrote:
> Ben,
> thank u very much... one more question: the installer contained in the "old"
> netinst.iso was actrually looking for rescue.bin inside images-2.88, while
> the "official" CDROM #1 seems to have only the 1.44M version. Is it possible
> to instruct the install program to look only for a rescue.bin file instead
> of sun4u/images-2.88/rescue.bin?

No. Installing the stuff on your current r1 CD is pointless, as it wont
be able to work.

The netinst.iso I will create will have the disks-sparc/current/ on the
image aswell, so you can install kernel drivers/modules from that image,
and the base packages using your existing CD's.

-- 
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Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/
Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/
WatchGuard - http://www.watchguard.com/



Re: Sparc netinst

2003-08-22 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 05:26:50PM +0200, Lino Moretto wrote:
> Hi all,
> anyone has an idea of why
> http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/netinst.iso.bz2 has
> been removed? I'm trying to install woody on a Netra T1/105 and the
> installation process on the original 3.0_r1 CD does not recognize my CDROM

I'll make a new one.

-- 
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Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/
Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/
WatchGuard - http://www.watchguard.com/



Sparc netinst

2003-08-22 Thread Lino Moretto
Hi all,
anyone has an idea of why
http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/netinst.iso.bz2 has
been removed? I'm trying to install woody on a Netra T1/105 and the
installation process on the original 3.0_r1 CD does not recognize my CDROM
(I think this is a known issue...).
Thanks a lot

Lino