Re: Ultra 10 processor support
Le lundi 20 mars 2006 à 13:51 -0500, Steve Pacenka a écrit : > On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 14:56 +, Chris Andrew wrote: > > Hi, all. > > > > I have a 333 Ultra 10. I was just wondering whether it is possible to > > add more processors. I think the max speed processor I can get is > > 440, but 2 processors (or more) would be good. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chris > > > If you're looking for Linux performance improvements in a U10, your > processor is already pretty good. Getting the box up to 512M or 1G > memory, or replacing the IDE hard drive with an ultra/wide SCSI one > (along with a bootable PCI SCSI controller), could improve speed also, > depending on where your bottlenecks are. The internal IDE controller is > not very fast, and if you're using a lot of swap due to not having much > memory you're paying a double penalty. BTW, does anyone here know where to find cheap memory for it? I burned half the memory of mine (which had 256M) and it is too slow to be usable. I'm living in Europe (Belgium and Luxembourg) at the moment, but have people I trust in Germany and Spain if delivery is cheaper or easier there. Thanks > If your applications would benefit mainly from dual CPUs, and if you > don't need PCI, a 2x296 MHz Ultra 2 might be acquirable at a low price. > I got one for US$69 once with 256M RAM, Creator graphics card, and CD. > > -- SP
Re: Ultra 10 processor support
Pete Clarke wrote: I would concur with the idea of getting a SCSI card - all my Sun boxes have SCSI cards - only about £30 from eBay for a reasonable one - makes all the difference - the U10 with 440/1GB/72GB SCSI doesn't feel much slower than my U60 Dual 450/2GB/72GB SCSI on desktop tasks...certainly faster than it should given it's age :-) I have to agree, my Ultra10 (440MHz, 1GB RAM) is plenty fast enough for normal desktop use. I popped a Promise Fastrack TX2 Ultra100 IDE card and a 100GB 7200rpm hdd in it for some big, fast, cheap storage and it's given it a new lease of life. Admittedly the Promise card is a bit shoddy and throws timing errors if you try to drive it over ATA-66 but it's still a darn sight faster than the onboard IDE controller. fwiw, whilst trawling through my bits box I also stuck a USB-2 card in it and now use my nice Microsoft trackball in X rather than the nasty old Sun compact1 unit. Gary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ultra 10 processor support
don't get the 440. we had about 100 of them, 90+% of which failed within 18 months. I have had no problems with the 5 or so I have running here.luck of the draw I guess - which applies to pretty much every component part. the 333's, on the other hand, are still going strong. I must admit the 333 I have feels just as quick as the 440's - all have 1GB ram which helps enormously. in general though, they're a pretty slow machine. the IDE controller doesn't help either. I would concur with the idea of getting a SCSI card - all my Sun boxes have SCSI cards - only about £30 from eBay for a reasonable one - makes all the difference - the U10 with 440/1GB/72GB SCSI doesn't feel much slower than my U60 Dual 450/2GB/72GB SCSI on desktop tasks...certainly faster than it should given it's age :-) Cheer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ultra 10 processor support
-->"Chris" == Chris Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Chris> I have a 333 Ultra 10. I was just wondering whether it is Chris> possible to add more processors. I think the max speed Chris> processor I can get is 440, but 2 processors (or more) would be Chris> good. Chris> Any thoughts? don't get the 440. we had about 100 of them, 90+% of which failed within 18 months. the 333's, on the other hand, are still going strong. in general though, they're a pretty slow machine. the IDE controller doesn't help either. d -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ultra 10 processor support
On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 14:56 +, Chris Andrew wrote: > Hi, all. > > I have a 333 Ultra 10. I was just wondering whether it is possible to > add more processors. I think the max speed processor I can get is > 440, but 2 processors (or more) would be good. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > > Chris If you're looking for Linux performance improvements in a U10, your processor is already pretty good. Getting the box up to 512M or 1G memory, or replacing the IDE hard drive with an ultra/wide SCSI one (along with a bootable PCI SCSI controller), could improve speed also, depending on where your bottlenecks are. The internal IDE controller is not very fast, and if you're using a lot of swap due to not having much memory you're paying a double penalty. If your applications would benefit mainly from dual CPUs, and if you don't need PCI, a 2x296 MHz Ultra 2 might be acquirable at a low price. I got one for US$69 once with 256M RAM, Creator graphics card, and CD. -- SP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ultra 10 processor support
Also you need to check the main board and OBP revision levels for compatibility with faster processors. Memory speed is also an issue with 400MHz processors. The 333 MHz processor is one of the fastest due to a large internal cache. Scott Walker wrote: Simple web search would have brought up the fact that no you cannot add 2 CPU's into a Ultra10. Chris Andrew wrote: | Hi, all. | | I have a 333 Ultra 10. I was just wondering whether it is possible to | add more processors. I think the max speed processor I can get is 440, | but 2 processors (or more) would be good. | | Any thoughts? | | Thanks, | | Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ultra 10 processor support
Simple web search would have brought up the fact that no you cannot add 2 CPU's into a Ultra10. Chris Andrew wrote: | Hi, all. | | I have a 333 Ultra 10. I was just wondering whether it is possible to | add more processors. I think the max speed processor I can get is 440, | but 2 processors (or more) would be good. | | Any thoughts? | | Thanks, | | Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ultra 10 processor support
#I have a 333 Ultra 10. I was just wondering whether it is possible to add #more processors. I think the max speed processor I can get is 440, but 2 #processors (or more) would be good. This is not necessarily the place to ask this, a quick Google would answer this particular question ... but never mind.. The Ultra 10 is a uniprocessor machine, the 440 is the fastest CPU the board will take. The Ultra 1, 5, 10 (the 5 and 10 share the same motherboard) and 30 were all uniprocessor. The Ultra 2 and Ultra 60 were both dual processor machines around at (roughly) the same time. So, the answer would be no - you can't add any extra CPU's to the U10 - it only has one processor socket. Cheers, Pete. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ultra 10 processor support
Hi, all. I have a 333 Ultra 10. I was just wondering whether it is possible to add more processors. I think the max speed processor I can get is 440, but 2 processors (or more) would be good. Any thoughts? Thanks, Chris.
