Re: X on latest potato?
-> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 08 20:07:51 2000 -> Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 15:07:36 -0400 (EDT) -> From: Rich Sahlender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -> -> Huh? I have run X as normal user for years via startx. This worked -> as always on sparc64 until apt-get upgrade a few days ago. I should -> not have to run xdm. I should also not need to be root to run X as -> the /usr/bin/X11/X suid wrapper takes care things for normal user. -> My /etc/X11/Xserver contains: -> -> /usr/bin/X11/Xsun24 -> Console -> -> This should permit anyone logged in at the console to run X. Have -> I missed something? Depending on your necessities, "Console" is usually a good alternative. Sergio.
Re: X on latest potato?
Huh? I have run X as normal user for years via startx. This worked as always on sparc64 until apt-get upgrade a few days ago. I should not have to run xdm. I should also not need to be root to run X as the /usr/bin/X11/X suid wrapper takes care things for normal user. My /etc/X11/Xserver contains: /usr/bin/X11/Xsun24 Console This should permit anyone logged in at the console to run X. Have I missed something? Regards, Rich On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Sergio Mendoza wrote: > -> It turns out there was a little more to this than just a symlink > -> for /dev/fb to /dev/fb0. In my case, /dev/fb0 somehow had perms > -> > -> crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb0 > > This looks correct to me, it should be like that, shouldn't it? > > -> > -> so running X as root worked fine after the symlink but still > -> failed for normal user. Once I added the user to group tty and > -> added read to the group perms X starts fine for normal user. > > I think that you were trying to run X as a normal user, which by default > should not happen. You can overwrite the default by adding "Anybody" > after the line which says /usr/bin/X11/X-something in your > /etc/X11/Xserver file. However, you are at risk here! A better option is > to run xdm and let X to be run only by root. > > Sergio. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: X on latest potato?
-> From: Rich Sahlender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -> X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org -> Subject: Re: X on latest potato? -> -> It turns out there was a little more to this than just a symlink -> for /dev/fb to /dev/fb0. In my case, /dev/fb0 somehow had perms -> -> crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb0 This looks correct to me, it should be like that, shouldn't it? -> -> so running X as root worked fine after the symlink but still -> failed for normal user. Once I added the user to group tty and -> added read to the group perms X starts fine for normal user. I think that you were trying to run X as a normal user, which by default should not happen. You can overwrite the default by adding "Anybody" after the line which says /usr/bin/X11/X-something in your /etc/X11/Xserver file. However, you are at risk here! A better option is to run xdm and let X to be run only by root. Sergio.
Re: X on latest potato?
It turns out there was a little more to this than just a symlink for /dev/fb to /dev/fb0. In my case, /dev/fb0 somehow had perms crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb0 so running X as root worked fine after the symlink but still failed for normal user. Once I added the user to group tty and added read to the group perms X starts fine for normal user. What should the perms be for the /dev/fb* devices? Should MAKEDEV have run for one of the updates and didn't? Regards, Rich On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Rich Sahlender wrote: > Just did an "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade" on an Ultra1 from frozen. > Havn't done one in about two weeks and some thirty packages were updated. > Among the updates was xserver-xsun/xserver-xsun24 which no longer seem > to work. > > $ startx > > (using VT number 7) > > > Fatal server error: > no screens found > X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). > $ > > Anyone know what's up before I spend time debugging a known problem? > > Thanks, > Rich > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: X on latest potato?
Interesting. I'm not using xdm here but tried the "-dev /dev/fb0" in .xserverrc and also tried "startx -- -dev /dev/fb0". Neither seems to make any difference. I'll keep trying things... On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Peter Haworth wrote: > Rich Sahlender wrote: > > Just did an "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade" on an Ultra1 from frozen. > > Havn't done one in about two weeks and some thirty packages were updated. > > Among the updates was xserver-xsun/xserver-xsun24 which no longer seem > > to work. > > > > $ startx > > > > (using VT number 7) > > > > > > Fatal server error: > > no screens found > > X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). > > I had the same problem this morning. I fixed it by changing the last line of > /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers from: > :0 local /usr/bin/X11/X vt7 -deferglyphs 16 > to > :0 local /usr/bin/X11/X vt7 -deferglyphs 16 -dev /dev/fb0 > > I thought that was odd at the time, since Xsun's manual claims it will try > /dev/fb0, but this did the trick. > > -- > Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Q: Why do ducks have flat feet? A: To stamp out forest fires. > Q: Why do elephants have flat feet? A: To stamp out flaming ducks > -- UNIX fortune > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: X on latest potato?
Rich Sahlender wrote: > Just did an "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade" on an Ultra1 from frozen. > Havn't done one in about two weeks and some thirty packages were updated. > Among the updates was xserver-xsun/xserver-xsun24 which no longer seem > to work. > > $ startx > > (using VT number 7) > > > Fatal server error: > no screens found > X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). I had the same problem this morning. I fixed it by changing the last line of /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers from: :0 local /usr/bin/X11/X vt7 -deferglyphs 16 to :0 local /usr/bin/X11/X vt7 -deferglyphs 16 -dev /dev/fb0 I thought that was odd at the time, since Xsun's manual claims it will try /dev/fb0, but this did the trick. -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q: Why do ducks have flat feet? A: To stamp out forest fires. Q: Why do elephants have flat feet? A: To stamp out flaming ducks -- UNIX fortune
Re: X on latest potato?
Hi Sergio, I'm afraid the solution does not work here. # ls -l /dev/fb* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root8 Jun 6 14:43 /dev/fb -> /dev/fb0 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb0 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 1 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb0autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb0current crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 32 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb1 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 33 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb1autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 32 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb1current crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 64 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb2 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 65 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb2autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 64 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb2current crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 96 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb3 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 97 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb3autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 96 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb3current crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 128 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb4 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 129 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb4autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 128 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb4current crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 160 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb5 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 161 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb5autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 160 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb5current crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 192 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb6 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 193 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb6autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 192 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb6current crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 224 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb7 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 225 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb7autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 224 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb7current # Thanks, Rich On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Sergio Mendoza wrote: > Hi, > > This problem has a solution and it has already been reported: > > http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/65/65150.html > > Sergio > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: X on latest potato?
# dpkg -l xserver-\* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- un xserver-agx (no description available) ii xserver-common 3.3.6-7files and utilities common to all X servers un xserver-ggi (no description available) un xserver-mach32 (no description available) un xserver-mach64 (no description available) un xserver-p9000 (no description available) un xserver-s3 (no description available) un xserver-s3v (no description available) un xserver-tga (no description available) un xserver-vga16 (no description available) un xserver-w32 (no description available) ii xserver-xsun 3.3.6-7X server for 8-bit Sun framebuffers un xserver-xsun-mono (no description available) ii xserver-xsun24 3.3.6-7X server for 24-bit Sun framebuffers # A symlink for /dev/fb to /dev/fb0 did not help. # ls -l /dev/fb* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root8 Jun 6 14:43 /dev/fb -> /dev/fb0 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb0 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 1 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb0autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb0current crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 32 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb1 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 33 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb1autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 32 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb1current crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 64 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb2 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 65 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb2autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 64 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb2current crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 96 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb3 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 97 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb3autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 96 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb3current crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 128 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb4 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 129 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb4autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 128 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb4current crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 160 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb5 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 161 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb5autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 160 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb5current crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 192 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb6 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 193 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb6autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 192 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb6current crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 224 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb7 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 225 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb7autodetect crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 224 Mar 30 22:46 /dev/fb7current # On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Ben Collins wrote: > On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 02:21:58PM -0400, Rich Sahlender wrote: > > Just did an "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade" on an Ultra1 from frozen. > > Havn't done one in about two weeks and some thirty packages were updated. > > Among the updates was xserver-xsun/xserver-xsun24 which no longer seem > > to work. > > > > $ startx > > > > (using VT number 7) > > > > > > Fatal server error: > > no screens found > > X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). > > $ > > > > Anyone know what's up before I spend time debugging a known problem? > > Can you show me the output of "dpkg -l xserver-\*" so I can forward this > problem to the X maintainer? > > Thanks, > Ben > > -- > ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- > / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ > ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' > `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---' > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: X on latest potato?
Hi, This problem has a solution and it has already been reported: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/65/65150.html Sergio
Re: X on latest potato?
On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 02:21:58PM -0400, Rich Sahlender wrote: > Just did an "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade" on an Ultra1 from frozen. > Havn't done one in about two weeks and some thirty packages were updated. > Among the updates was xserver-xsun/xserver-xsun24 which no longer seem > to work. > > $ startx > > (using VT number 7) > > > Fatal server error: > no screens found > X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). > $ > > Anyone know what's up before I spend time debugging a known problem? Can you show me the output of "dpkg -l xserver-\*" so I can forward this problem to the X maintainer? Thanks, Ben -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
X on latest potato?
Just did an "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade" on an Ultra1 from frozen. Havn't done one in about two weeks and some thirty packages were updated. Among the updates was xserver-xsun/xserver-xsun24 which no longer seem to work. $ startx (using VT number 7) Fatal server error: no screens found X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). $ Anyone know what's up before I spend time debugging a known problem? Thanks, Rich
