Re: Xsun has me beat
I've been told, you can't run any other client/server besides Xsun__ types on sparc machines. Have you had contrary experience with this? Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz wrote: Quoting Mario Lombardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In what file are these lines located? in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 if you are using the X server, not the Xsun or Xsun24 server. If you are using XFree86 just comment following lines, such: Section Module Loadddc LoadGLcore Loaddbe # Loaddri Loadextmod # Loadglx Loadpex5 Loadrecord Loadxie Loadbitmap Loadfreetype Loadspeedo Loadtype1 Loadvbe Loadint10 EndSection -- Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz, presently intern at Tecnomatix Technologies Germany | Tel: +49 711 1389- 257 Mittlerer Pfad 9| [EMAIL PROTECTED] 70 499 Stuttgart| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Studenten, Absolventen und Young Professionals http://www.c-cn.de - This mail sent through IMP: webmail.fht-esslingen.de
Re: Xsun has me beat
I forgot to send the log to the list last time. Here it is again. gpm was the first thing I checked when I saw the pitiful log. # dpkg -s gpm Package: gpm Status: purge ok not-installed Priority: standard Section: misc Ben Collins wrote: hostname: Host name lookup failure (using VT number 7) PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M waiting for X server to shut down That's it? Somehow I recall it outputing more than that. Question, do you have gpm installed? If so, remove it and try again (make sure the gpm daemon is not running). hostname: Host name lookup failure (using VT number 7) PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M waiting for X server to shut down
Re: Xsun has me beat
Quoting Mario Lombardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been told, you can't run any other client/server besides Xsun__ types on sparc machines. Have you had contrary experience with this? with the 2.4.x you can run XFree86 4.x Servers. I am running 2.4.15-pre3 and XFree86 4.1.x on my Ultra10, and I am happy with it ;-) -- Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz, presently intern at Tecnomatix Technologies Germany | Tel: +49 711 1389- 257 Mittlerer Pfad 9| [EMAIL PROTECTED] 70 499 Stuttgart| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Studenten, Absolventen und Young Professionals http://www.c-cn.de - This mail sent through IMP: webmail.fht-esslingen.de
Re: Xsun has me beat
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 10:44:33AM -0500, Mario Lombardo wrote: I forgot to send the log to the list last time. Here it is again. gpm was the first thing I checked when I saw the pitiful log. [...] hostname: Host name lookup failure (using VT number 7) PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M waiting for X server to shut down It's possible the server is exiting normally because you didn't give it a client to stick to. man xinit man startx -- G. Branden Robinson| I suspect Linus wrote that in a Debian GNU/Linux | complicated way only to be able to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | have that comment in there. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Lars Wirzenius pgpObLk6jXhuw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xsun has me beat
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 05:02:54PM +0100, Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz wrote: Quoting Mario Lombardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been told, you can't run any other client/server besides Xsun__ types on sparc machines. Have you had contrary experience with this? with the 2.4.x you can run XFree86 4.x Servers. I am running 2.4.15-pre3 and XFree86 4.1.x on my Ultra10, and I am happy with it ;-) No, you don't need a 2.4.x kernel to run Xfree86 4.x. XFree86 4.x will work on 2.2.20 and 2.4.4+. This includes Sun framebuffer cards aswell as PCI cards like Permedia, Mach 64/128, etc. The framebuffer cards includes things like cg6, cg14, Creator/Elite cards, etc. Also, with recent kernels you can also take advantage of DRM with ATI 128 and Creator cards. So, it is false that you can only use Xsun servers on sparc-linux :) Ben -- .--===-=-==-=---==-=-. / Ben Collins--Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Xsun has me beat
I am stumped. I started reading: /usr/share/doc/xserver-xsun/README.Debian then ../xserver-common/README.Debian then I finally found what I think I wanted in ../xfree86-common/FAQ.gz under section [How do I get the Xserver to find the fixed font?] I've addressed everything under the recommendations: xfonts-base? Installed XF86Config? No need to worry for Xsun fonts.dir fonts.alias? Install of xfonts-base already did it. xfs? ps ax | grep xfs == /usr/bin/X11/xfs -daemon I don't think I need to do a: FontPath unix/:7100 cause XF86Config doesn't play a role even though the file is there. Correct? Anyway, I stop and restarted xfs with -port 7100 and still no go. This is what my error reads: #startx (using VT number 7) PEXExtensionsInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M PEXExtensionsInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M waiting for X server to shut down # That's it. I don't know what else I can look into. I'd like to learn. Mario
Re: Xsun has me beat
#startx (using VT number 7) PEXExtensionsInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M PEXExtensionsInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M waiting for X server to shut down As far as I know, you have to start 'xsun' or 'Xsun'. What kind of machine do you use? Why don't you use 2.4.14(15) and XFree86? regards -- Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz, presently intern at Tecnomatix Technologies Germany | Tel: +49 711 1389- 257 Mittlerer Pfad 9| [EMAIL PROTECTED] 70 499 Stuttgart| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Studenten, Absolventen und Young Professionals http://www.c-cn.de - This mail sent through IMP: webmail.fht-esslingen.de
Re: Xsun has me beat
It's a SPARC 5. With startx there are other things it does than just the X server. I don't know too much detail, but it also starts the environment and the window manager etc. (through xinit or something). I typed Xsun, but now I can't shut it down. What's the key sequence to kill Xsun? It's stuck at the Debian Welcome screen. Mario Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz wrote: #startx (using VT number 7) PEXExtensionsInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M PEXExtensionsInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M waiting for X server to shut down As far as I know, you have to start 'xsun' or 'Xsun'. What kind of machine do you use? Why don't you use 2.4.14(15) and XFree86? regards -- Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz, presently intern at Tecnomatix Technologies Germany | Tel: +49 711 1389- 257 Mittlerer Pfad 9| [EMAIL PROTECTED] 70 499 Stuttgart| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Studenten, Absolventen und Young Professionals http://www.c-cn.de - This mail sent through IMP: webmail.fht-esslingen.de
Re: Xsun has me beat
typed Xsun, but now I can't shut it down. What's the key sequence to kill Xsun? It's stuck at the Debian Welcome screen. Mario can't you switch your console with ctrl+alt F1, or kill the server with ctrl+alt+backspace... you will find following similar line in your startx script: defaultserver=/usr/X11R6/bin/X change this to your path to xsun. regards -- Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz, presently intern at Tecnomatix Technologies Germany | Tel: +49 711 1389- 257 Mittlerer Pfad 9| [EMAIL PROTECTED] 70 499 Stuttgart| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Studenten, Absolventen und Young Professionals http://www.c-cn.de - This mail sent through IMP: webmail.fht-esslingen.de
Re: Xsun has me beat
On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz wrote: typed Xsun, but now I can't shut it down. What's the key sequence to kill Xsun? It's stuck at the Debian Welcome screen. Mario can't you switch your console with ctrl+alt F1, or kill the server with ctrl+alt+backspace... you will find following similar line in your startx script: defaultserver=/usr/X11R6/bin/X change this to your path to xsun. This was a real pain when I was setting up the xconfig on my U60, because the server would grab control of the keyboard, whether it had a working map or not, which often left the keys dead dead dead. I just ssh'd to it from another machine and killed off the xserver. If you don't have access to it from another computer you may have to do resort to the power switch. =/ Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't depend on your judgement when your imagination is out of focus. -- Mark Twain
Re: Xsun has me beat
(using VT number 7) PEXExtensionsInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M PEXExtensionsInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M waiting for X server to shut down apt-get install xfonts-pex -- .--===-=-==-=---==-=-. / Ben Collins--Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: Xsun has me beat
No, those don't work. I know they worked with Intel machines, but I have a Type 5 keyboard. Could it be some other sequence? I guess you are talking about a sparc. Right? Mario Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz wrote: typed Xsun, but now I can't shut it down. What's the key sequence to kill Xsun? It's stuck at the Debian Welcome screen. Mario can't you switch your console with ctrl+alt F1, or kill the server with ctrl+alt+backspace... you will find following similar line in your startx script: defaultserver=/usr/X11R6/bin/X change this to your path to xsun. regards -- Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz, presently intern at Tecnomatix Technologies Germany | Tel: +49 711 1389- 257 Mittlerer Pfad 9| [EMAIL PROTECTED] 70 499 Stuttgart| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Studenten, Absolventen und Young Professionals http://www.c-cn.de - This mail sent through IMP: webmail.fht-esslingen.de
Re: Xsun has me beat
I'd hug you for the SSH idea, but unfortunately my station was off the network w/o an IP address :^ You did make me think of Serial A and B, but just my luck, getty wasn't listening on those ports. There goes my work click B.C.J.O wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz wrote: typed Xsun, but now I can't shut it down. What's the key sequence to kill Xsun? It's stuck at the Debian Welcome screen. Mario can't you switch your console with ctrl+alt F1, or kill the server with ctrl+alt+backspace... you will find following similar line in your startx script: defaultserver=/usr/X11R6/bin/X change this to your path to xsun. This was a real pain when I was setting up the xconfig on my U60, because the server would grab control of the keyboard, whether it had a working map or not, which often left the keys dead dead dead. I just ssh'd to it from another machine and killed off the xserver. If you don't have access to it from another computer you may have to do resort to the power switch. =/ Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't depend on your judgement when your imagination is out of focus. -- Mark Twain
Re: Xsun has me beat
I purged the xfonts-pex and reinstalled. Same thing happened. In /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc update-fonts-alias . update-fonts-dir . update-fonts-scale . Tried startx again. Still, I get the same thing. Where else can I look? Where is this information coming from that would originate such an error? Mario Ben Collins wrote: (using VT number 7) PEXExtensionsInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M PEXExtensionsInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M waiting for X server to shut down apt-get install xfonts-pex
Re: Xsun has me beat
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 12:00:30PM -0500, Mario Lombardo wrote: I purged the xfonts-pex and reinstalled. Same thing happened. In /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc update-fonts-alias . update-fonts-dir . update-fonts-scale . Tried startx again. Still, I get the same thing. Where else can I look? Where is this information coming from that would originate such an error? I have a feeling that the fonts are the cause of the failure. They should be non-fatal. Can you check the rest of the output (perhaps mouse errors)? -- .--===-=-==-=---==-=-. / Ben Collins--Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: Xsun has me beat
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 10:31:00AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: (using VT number 7) PEXExtensionsInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M PEXExtensionsInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M waiting for X server to shut down apt-get install xfonts-pex Failure to initialize the PEX extension is not a fatal error anyway. At least not in the XFree86 X server. -- G. Branden Robinson|If you wish to strive for peace of Debian GNU/Linux |soul, then believe; if you wish to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |be a devotee of truth, then http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |inquire. -- Friedrich Nietzsche pgpzYlQd0tGRg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xsun has me beat
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 12:24:02PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 12:00:30PM -0500, Mario Lombardo wrote: I purged the xfonts-pex and reinstalled. Same thing happened. In /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc update-fonts-alias . update-fonts-dir . update-fonts-scale . Tried startx again. Still, I get the same thing. Where else can I look? Where is this information coming from that would originate such an error? I have a feeling that the fonts are the cause of the failure. They should be non-fatal. Can you check the rest of the output (perhaps mouse errors)? Of course I meant are not the cause. -- .--===-=-==-=---==-=-. / Ben Collins--Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: Xsun has me beat
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 12:24:02PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: I have a feeling that the fonts are the cause of the failure. They should be non-fatal. Can you check the rest of the output (perhaps mouse errors)? $HOME/.xsession-errorsmay have a smoking gun in it. -- G. Branden Robinson| Why do we have to hide from the Debian GNU/Linux | police, Daddy? [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Because we use vi, son. They use http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | emacs. pgpYD8X9n9oXY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xsun has me beat
That's what I thought. In Potato, I got this every time, but in reading /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common under the [How do I get the Xserver to find the fixed font?] section it states: If the X server refuses to start, complaining that it cannot find the 'fixed' font, then one (or more) of the following is likely true: (then it goes on about causes) This is contradictory of what I'm hearing on this thread. What else, logs, output, or otherwise, can I give you? Please tell me where to get it. I'm not terribly familiar with Debian's filesystem hierarchy. Mario Ben Collins wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 12:00:30PM -0500, Mario Lombardo wrote: I purged the xfonts-pex and reinstalled. Same thing happened. In /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc update-fonts-alias . update-fonts-dir . update-fonts-scale . Tried startx again. Still, I get the same thing. Where else can I look? Where is this information coming from that would originate such an error? I have a feeling that the fonts are the cause of the failure. They should be non-fatal. Can you check the rest of the output (perhaps mouse errors)?
Re: Xsun has me beat
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 01:16:00PM -0500, Mario Lombardo wrote: That's what I thought. In Potato, I got this every time, but in reading /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common under the [How do I get the Xserver to find the fixed font?] section it states: If the X server refuses to start, complaining that it cannot find the 'fixed' font, then one (or more) of the following is likely true: (then it goes on about causes) This is contradictory of what I'm hearing on this thread. What else, logs, output, or otherwise, can I give you? Please tell me where to get it. I'm not terribly familiar with Debian's filesystem hierarchy. You don't have to be familiar with it, the server outputs the needed info. Do this: startx startx.log 21 Send us the startx.log file. -- .--===-=-==-=---==-=-. / Ben Collins--Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: Xsun has me beat
I have same message on my SS5, I notice it after exiting X window. I just got that SS5 setup with Debian yesterday. Another problem is the gdm die when I logout X window. Now I stop using gdm to start gnome and X window. Does anyone has come across same problem. Donald Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz wrote: #startx (using VT number 7) PEXExtensionsInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M PEXExtensionsInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M waiting for X server to shut down As far as I know, you have to start 'xsun' or 'Xsun'. What kind of machine do you use? Why don't you use 2.4.14(15) and XFree86? regards -- Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz, presently intern at Tecnomatix Technologies Germany | Tel: +49 711 1389- 257 Mittlerer Pfad 9| [EMAIL PROTECTED] 70 499 Stuttgart| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Studenten, Absolventen und Young Professionals http://www.c-cn.de - This mail sent through IMP: webmail.fht-esslingen.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin:vcard n:Wu;Donald x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.qmul.ac.uk/ org:Queen Mary, University of London;Dept of Geography, and Economics adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Computing Support Officer fn:Donald Wu end:vcard
Re: Xsun has me beat
Quoting Donald Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have same message on my SS5, I notice it after exiting X window. I just got that SS5 setup with Debian yesterday. Another problem is the gdm die when I logout X window. Now I stop using gdm to start gnome and X window. Does anyone has come across same problem. If you are using XFree86 just comment following lines, such: Section Module Loadddc LoadGLcore Loaddbe # Loaddri Loadextmod # Loadglx Loadpex5 Loadrecord Loadxie Loadbitmap Loadfreetype Loadspeedo Loadtype1 Loadvbe Loadint10 EndSection regards -- Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz, presently intern at Tecnomatix Technologies Germany | Tel: +49 711 1389- 257 Mittlerer Pfad 9| [EMAIL PROTECTED] 70 499 Stuttgart| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Studenten, Absolventen und Young Professionals http://www.c-cn.de - This mail sent through IMP: webmail.fht-esslingen.de
Re: Xsun has me beat
Cool. The file's date is 2001/10/23, but here it is anyway. I'm crossing my fingers. I had to remove the first dot from the filename because Mozilla for Mac had problems with it. Mario Branden Robinson wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 12:24:02PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: I have a feeling that the fonts are the cause of the failure. They should be non-fatal. Can you check the rest of the output (perhaps mouse errors)? $HOME/.xsession-errorsmay have a smoking gun in it. xsession-errors Description: application/text
