RE: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

2002-12-18 Thread William Law
Morning All,

I have an ss5-110 (200MB ram) with the default cdrom drive
(4x?).  I kept on getting errors when trying to read from the cdroms, but
managed to get a rudimentary install going.  talking about unfriendly
though :/  I kept having to un-mount the cdrom when the installer tried to
mount it incorrectly, and the boot floppies were no fun (when/if they
worked).

But booting from the cdrom worked a treat (when it would read it
properly).  I've been tempted to link the sparc to my wintel box via scsi,
and use the faster drives on that... but trying to get the box to install
stuff properly has been the main hassle.

Regards,
William Law




RE: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

2002-12-18 Thread Beesley, Bill (CCI-Atlanta)



 -Original Message-
From:   Martin Herren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:55 AM
To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
Subject:Re: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

Luca Zampetti wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>Reading Marc's message I took out 128 MB from my SPARC 5, with which I have 
>been struggling to install Debian Linux from CDROM.
>
>The installation went well - it was the 12th attempt -, although I was not 
>able to use consistently the CDROM during the whole process, only the first 
>part until DHCP to the FTP server ... dbootstrap generates error messages 
>about corrupt files while attempting to download from the CDROM all the time, 
>sometimes even from some Debian FTP mirrors ... can Debian Linux handle at all 
>more than 128 of RAM?
>

I run a Sparc Station 5 85MHz/256MB RAM as web-server with Debian Woody, 
and everything works well.
As i don't have a CDROM on it, i netbooted the installation program 
without a problem, but i don't remember if there were 256MB or only 64MB 
when i installed it...

Martin

I have an Ultra 5 with 256m of RAM and two, Ultra 60's with 512M of RAM.  All 
three are perfectly happy installing and running Debian Woody.


Bill Beesley
Director, Commercial Network Operations
Cox Communications
404.269.6702






Re: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

2002-12-18 Thread Martin Herren

Luca Zampetti wrote:


Hello all,

Reading Marc's message I took out 128 MB from my SPARC 5, with which I have 
been struggling to install Debian Linux from CDROM.

The installation went well - it was the 12th attempt -, although I was not able 
to use consistently the CDROM during the whole process, only the first part 
until DHCP to the FTP server ... dbootstrap generates error messages about 
corrupt files while attempting to download from the CDROM all the time, 
sometimes even from some Debian FTP mirrors ... can Debian Linux handle at all 
more than 128 of RAM?



I run a Sparc Station 5 85MHz/256MB RAM as web-server with Debian Woody, 
and everything works well.
As i don't have a CDROM on it, i netbooted the installation program 
without a problem, but i don't remember if there were 256MB or only 64MB 
when i installed it...


Martin





Re: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

2002-12-17 Thread Franz Georg Köhler
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 04:31:02PM -0500, Luca Zampetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> ... can Debian Linux handle at all more than 128 of RAM?

Yes, as long as your hardware can.




Re: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

2002-12-17 Thread Tom 'spot' Callaway
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 16:31, Luca Zampetti wrote:

> I wanted to install Linux in order to learn Oracle and I believe that Oracle
> will not work with less than 256 MB of RAM ...

Oracle doesn't even have Linux/SPARC binaries, iirc. You might be going
through a lot of pain for nothing...

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Re: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

2002-12-17 Thread Luca Zampetti
Hello all,

Reading Marc's message I took out 128 MB from my SPARC 5, with which I have 
been struggling to install Debian Linux from CDROM.

The installation went well - it was the 12th attempt -, although I was not able 
to use consistently the CDROM during the whole process, only the first part 
until DHCP to the FTP server ... dbootstrap generates error messages about 
corrupt files while attempting to download from the CDROM all the time, 
sometimes even from some Debian FTP mirrors ... can Debian Linux handle at all 
more than 128 of RAM? I wanted to install Linux in order to learn Oracle and I 
believe that Oracle will not work with less than 256 MB of RAM ...

Best regards,

Lou

- Original Message - 
From: "Dietmar Schurr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Marc Horowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs


> Hi list, hi Marc
> 
> since a while I follow this thread because I have an old SS20 with 128 MB 
> running. The installation (woody) went well with no problems. I used an old 
> external SCSI-CDROM-Drive (with Caddy).
> Later on I tried to install a second SS20 with the same set of CD's and I got 
> also the same error as you did. First I thought the CD-Drive would be the 
> problem (a newer one). I used the same old one as on the other SS20. But the 
> problem was still there.  Later I managed to install the SS20 with boot 
> floppies.
> 
> The Boot-PROM version of both SS20's is exactly the same! The only difference 
> is, that in the first installed SS20 I have 128 MB and one the later one only 
> 118 MB (I don't even know if this is possible). I didn't open the machines to 
> check, I just believe what the system tells me.
> 
> So it looks like this is a confirmation of your theorie. Your error is 
> reproducible.
> 
> If your solution is reproducible I don't know, because I finished the 
> installation with floppies.
> 
> Dietmar (Debian newbie)
> 
> Am Montag, 16. Dezember 2002 04:24 schrieb Marc Horowitz:
> > I got my ss20 to boot the install cdrom!
> >
> > I had 4x32mb memory modules in the machine.  On a lark, I pulled two
> > of them out, hoping to affect the memory allocation algorithm, and it
> > worked.
> >
> > If anybody else out there has an ss20 they've been unable to boot off
> > cdrom, try pulling memory until it's got only 64mb, or perhaps
> > anywhere than 128mb.  I'm curious if my solution is reproducible.
> >
> > There's still a bug here, but this is a sufficient workaround for me.
> > When I'm done installing, I'll put the memory back in.
> >
> > Marc
> 
> 
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Re: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

2002-12-17 Thread Dietmar Schurr
Hi list, hi Marc

since a while I follow this thread because I have an old SS20 with 128 MB 
running. The installation (woody) went well with no problems. I used an old 
external SCSI-CDROM-Drive (with Caddy).
Later on I tried to install a second SS20 with the same set of CD's and I got 
also the same error as you did. First I thought the CD-Drive would be the 
problem (a newer one). I used the same old one as on the other SS20. But the 
problem was still there.  Later I managed to install the SS20 with boot 
floppies.

The Boot-PROM version of both SS20's is exactly the same! The only difference 
is, that in the first installed SS20 I have 128 MB and one the later one only 
118 MB (I don't even know if this is possible). I didn't open the machines to 
check, I just believe what the system tells me.

So it looks like this is a confirmation of your theorie. Your error is 
reproducible.

If your solution is reproducible I don't know, because I finished the 
installation with floppies.

Dietmar (Debian newbie)

Am Montag, 16. Dezember 2002 04:24 schrieb Marc Horowitz:
> I got my ss20 to boot the install cdrom!
>
> I had 4x32mb memory modules in the machine.  On a lark, I pulled two
> of them out, hoping to affect the memory allocation algorithm, and it
> worked.
>
> If anybody else out there has an ss20 they've been unable to boot off
> cdrom, try pulling memory until it's got only 64mb, or perhaps
> anywhere than 128mb.  I'm curious if my solution is reproducible.
>
> There's still a bug here, but this is a sufficient workaround for me.
> When I'm done installing, I'll put the memory back in.
>
> Marc



Re: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

2002-12-15 Thread Marc Horowitz
I got my ss20 to boot the install cdrom!

I had 4x32mb memory modules in the machine.  On a lark, I pulled two
of them out, hoping to affect the memory allocation algorithm, and it
worked.

If anybody else out there has an ss20 they've been unable to boot off
cdrom, try pulling memory until it's got only 64mb, or perhaps
anywhere than 128mb.  I'm curious if my solution is reproducible.

There's still a bug here, but this is a sufficient workaround for me.
When I'm done installing, I'll put the memory back in.

Marc



Re: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

2002-12-15 Thread Marc Horowitz
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 12:36:16AM -0500, Marc Horowitz wrote:
> I have an ss10 with a cdrom drive and no floppy.  I used jigdo to
> download and burn a 3.0 cdrom image, which worked without a hitch.
> When I put the media in and boot it, SILO loads, and I hit enter to
> load the default kernel image.  the kernel boots, then things stop
> working so perfectly:

I had time to look into this, and I noticed a telltale error at the
beginning of the boot sequence:

Uncompressing image...
Loading initial ramdisk
PROMLIB: obio_ranges 5
Booting Linux...
PROMLIB: Sun Boot Prom Version 3 Revision 2
Linux version 2.2.20 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.2 2220 
(Debian GNU/Linux)) #1 Fri Nov 16 15:48:02 EST 2001
ARCH: SUN4M
TYPE: Sun4m SparcStation10/20
Ethernet address: 8:0:20:73:46:22
Boot time fixup v1.6. 4/Mar/98 Jakub Jelinek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Patching 
kernel for srmmu[TI Viking]/iommu
initrd extends beyond end of memory (0xf811adbd > 0xf800)
disabling initrd
[0]: v[f000,f100](100) p[]
[1]: v[f100,f200](100) p[0200]
[2]: v[f200,f300](100) p[0800]
[3]: v[f300,f400](100) p[0a00]
[4]: v[f400,f500](100) p[0c00]
[5]: v[f500,f600](100) p[0e00]
[6]: v[f600,f700](100) p[1400]
[7]: v[f700,f7f4f000](f4f000) p[1600]

It appears the end of memory (in virtual address terms) is at
0xf800.  The "initrd extends beyond end of memory" error indicates
that my initrd image ends at 0xf811adbd.  This looks like a random
number, but 0x11adbd == 1158589, which is the size of the root image:

-r--r--r--3 root root  1158589 May 18  2002 
dists/stable/main/disks-sparc/current/images-1.44/root.bin

So, the kernel is apparently looking for the root image right at the
end of memory.  The boot loader seems to load the ramdisk (at least,
it spends some time doing something between the second and third lines
above).  So, either silo is writing the root image into nowhere, or
silo isn't passing the address of the root image into the kernel
peoperly.

I took some look at the silo code, but I don't know nearly enough
about the sparc to know what to do to fix this.

Marc



Re: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

2002-12-09 Thread Christophorus Laube

Hi,

thanks for answering. AFAIK is a SS20 a 32Bit-processor, but the 
image=/boot/sparc32.gz with all the other options doesn't work. Also 
with the 
initrd=/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-sparc/current/images-1.44/root.bin 
option. so I don't think that this is the point. Do you have any other 
ideas?

TIA, Christophorus



Re: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

2002-12-04 Thread Christophorus Laube
I have the same problem with my SS20 and I have no floppy attached. I 
tried all the hints listed here, for example the "image=/boot/sparc64 
initrd=/debian/dists/stable/main/current/images-1.44/root.bin" option 
but it always fails the install process with "..can't mount root fs...".

Any clues?
TIA, Christophorus



RE: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

2002-12-03 Thread Nicolas WILL
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Nate Campi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> I just type 'rescue' at the CD's SILO prompt and install successfully
> >> from there. I can't seem to use it as an actual rescue CD, though :(
>
> I tried this, but it fails the same way as before.

I had the same problem on my SS20. I have heard the same may apply to
SS10's.

I had to use the boot floppies to startup the install. After the system got
up and running it picked up the rest, kernel install and base install, from
the CD.

Nico



Re: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

2002-12-03 Thread Marc Horowitz
Nate Campi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> I just type 'rescue' at the CD's SILO prompt and install successfully
>> from there. I can't seem to use it as an actual rescue CD, though :(

I tried this, but it fails the same way as before.

Marc



Re: cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

2002-12-02 Thread Nate Campi
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 12:36:16AM -0500, Marc Horowitz wrote:
> I have an ss10 with a cdrom drive and no floppy.  I used jigdo to
> download and burn a 3.0 cdrom image, which worked without a hitch.
> When I put the media in and boot it, SILO loads, and I hit enter to
> load the default kernel image.  the kernel boots, then things stop
> working so perfectly:
> 

> 
> The host is obviously seeing the cdrom drive.  The kernel appears to
> be seeing and loading proper drivers for the cdrom drive.  But it's
> loading the root fs from the wrong place.  /boot/silo.conf has an
> initrd line which points to a file which contains a compressed ext2 fs
> root image, as I would expect, but the systme doesn't appear to be
> loading it.
> 
> Does anybody have any suggestions?

I just type 'rescue' at the CD's SILO prompt and install successfully
from there. I can't seem to use it as an actual rescue CD, though :(
-- 
Nate Campi   http://www.campin.net 

"There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. 
We don't believe this to be a coincidence."  -- Jeremy S. Anderson



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cd boot fails: kernel can't find root fs

2002-12-02 Thread Marc Horowitz
I have an ss10 with a cdrom drive and no floppy.  I used jigdo to
download and burn a 3.0 cdrom image, which worked without a hitch.
When I put the media in and boot it, SILO loads, and I hit enter to
load the default kernel image.  the kernel boots, then things stop
working so perfectly:

scsi : 1 host.
  Vendor: QUANTUM   Model: FB1080J  SUN1.05  Rev: 630E
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0
  Vendor: TOSHIBA   Model: XM-4101TASUNSLCD  Rev: 1084
  Type:   CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0
scsi : detected 1 SCSI cdrom 1 SCSI disk total.
esp0: target 6 asynchronous
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11
esp0: target 3 [period 100ns offset 8 10.00MHz FAST SCSI-II]
SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2134305 [1042 MB] [1.0 GB]
sunlance.c:v1.12 11/Mar/99 Miguel de Icaza ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
eth0: LANCE 08:00:20:73:46:22 
eth0: using auto-carrier-detection.
Partition check:
 sda: unknown partition table
Root-NFS: No NFS server available, giving up.
VFS: Unable to mount root fs via NFS, trying floppy.
VFS: Insert root floppy and press ENTER

ENTER, not surprisingly, fails.

request_module[block-major-2]: Root fs not mounted
VFS: Cannot open root device 02:00
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 02:00
Press L1-A to return to the boot prom

The host is obviously seeing the cdrom drive.  The kernel appears to
be seeing and loading proper drivers for the cdrom drive.  But it's
loading the root fs from the wrong place.  /boot/silo.conf has an
initrd line which points to a file which contains a compressed ext2 fs
root image, as I would expect, but the systme doesn't appear to be
loading it.

Does anybody have any suggestions?

Thanks!

Marc