Re: deb-sparc X and other questions

2001-03-06 Thread mstockda
it wasn't in my dselect list, but I got it in.. didn't work, but that's another 
issue..

On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 11:28:27PM +1000, Q89029292 wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Xfree 4 is missing?
> 
> Have you tried obtaing it using apt-get? After running apt-get update you
> can search the archives at home using "$apt-cache search xfree" or search
> for anything else for that matter.
> 
> N.B. I'm using it on a leo equipped classic, isn't noticably faster than
> xserver-xsun24 however.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter Firmstone.
> 
> On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hey everyone-
> > 
> > Let me preface this say saying that if the answers to the questions I am 
> > about to ask are in a FAQ somewhere, please just point me to it.. a quick 
> > search of the web and persual of the list archives still leaves me with 
> > questions, however, so...
> > 
> > 1) What's the general state of the debian-sparc port (from a day to day 
> > usage viewpoint, rather than a feature-list viewpoint). I'm trying to 
> > decide what OS to run on my SS20, between debian, OpenBSD, and Solaris.. 
> > Basically, I want to run a bunch of xterms and a browser (konquerer, 
> > mozilla, whichever).. The key being, I want to do it in 24bit color. which 
> > brings me to my next questions.
> > 
> > 2) What's the state of debian-sparc and cg14 support in Xfree 4.0.2? I 
> > installed debian and upgraded to woody, but the actual Xfree 4 xserver is 
> > nowhere to be found (even a quick manual check of the mirrors show it to be 
> > missing). Am I going to have to build it from source? (I have the source 
> > package from brandens site. it takes a _long_ time for the build to fail on 
> > my SM50 cpu :)
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for any help,
> > 
> >   Matt
> > 
> > 
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Re: deb-sparc X and other questions

2001-03-06 Thread Q89029292
Hi,

Xfree 4 is missing?

Have you tried obtaing it using apt-get? After running apt-get update you
can search the archives at home using "$apt-cache search xfree" or search
for anything else for that matter.

N.B. I'm using it on a leo equipped classic, isn't noticably faster than
xserver-xsun24 however.

Regards,

Peter Firmstone.

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hey everyone-
> 
> Let me preface this say saying that if the answers to the questions I am 
> about to ask are in a FAQ somewhere, please just point me to it.. a quick 
> search of the web and persual of the list archives still leaves me with 
> questions, however, so...
> 
> 1) What's the general state of the debian-sparc port (from a day to day usage 
> viewpoint, rather than a feature-list viewpoint). I'm trying to decide what 
> OS to run on my SS20, between debian, OpenBSD, and Solaris.. Basically, I 
> want to run a bunch of xterms and a browser (konquerer, mozilla, whichever).. 
> The key being, I want to do it in 24bit color. which brings me to my next 
> questions.
> 
> 2) What's the state of debian-sparc and cg14 support in Xfree 4.0.2? I 
> installed debian and upgraded to woody, but the actual Xfree 4 xserver is 
> nowhere to be found (even a quick manual check of the mirrors show it to be 
> missing). Am I going to have to build it from source? (I have the source 
> package from brandens site. it takes a _long_ time for the build to fail on 
> my SM50 cpu :)
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help,
> 
>   Matt
> 
> 
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> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 



Re: deb-sparc X and other questions

2001-03-02 Thread Ragga Muffin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 1) What's the general state of the debian-sparc port (from a day to day usage 
> viewpoint, rather than a feature-list viewpoint). I'm trying to decide what 
> OS to run on my SS20, between debian, OpenBSD, and Solaris.. Basically, I 
> want to run a bunch of xterms and a browser (konquerer, mozilla, whichever).. 
> The key being, I want to do it in 24bit color. which brings me to my next 
> questions.

Potato is very stable and clean (except for small install probs):

jcc05:/usr/local/home/ragga$ uname -a
Linux jcc05 2.2.17 #1 Fri Sep 22 12:01:06 JST 2000 sparc unknown
jcc05:/usr/local/home/ragga$ uptime
 10:05am  up 161 days, 19:31,  2 users,  load average: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00

There's not so much difference from a usage point between Debian and
OpenBSD on the Sun4m arch. From an administrative point I think you
can't beat Debian but NetBSD and OpenBSD are well worth having a look at.
Especially if you are short on memory or HD.
Solaris is somewhat a resource hog but before you choose you may 
really want to check support for the apps you want to run. The
Linux world is a bit i86 biased so don't be surprised if there's
no linux/sparc options.
(Note also that in many cases SunOS emulation is a working option
with Debian and *BSD)

> 
> 2) What's the state of debian-sparc and cg14 support in Xfree 4.0.2? I 
> installed debian and upgraded to woody, but the actual Xfree 4 xserver is 
> nowhere to be found (even a quick manual check of the mirrors show it to be 
> missing). Am I going to have to build it from source? (I have the source 
> package from brandens site. it takes a _long_ time for the build to fail on 
> my SM50 cpu :)

There doesn't seem to be any XF4 server built in the pool area right now.
Let's wait a few days. (that's the time it would take to compile anyway 
on the SS20  8^)

HTH,

--
Ragga



Re: deb-sparc X and other questions

2001-03-02 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 1) What's the general state of the debian-sparc port (from a day to
> day usage viewpoint, rather than a feature-list viewpoint). I'm trying
> to decide what OS to run on my SS20, between debian, OpenBSD, and
> Solaris.. Basically, I want to run a bunch of xterms and a browser
> (konquerer, mozilla, whichever).

My experience has been that it's about as good as any other Debian
GNU/Linux port. I have occasionally encountered some i386-centric things,
(e.g. some packages expect you're using X86FConfig, but the Xsun server
(in the 3.x packages) doesn't need it.)  Generally, however, it works
quite well.

One thing to be aware of, however, is that third-party products may be
available only for the i386 port, not for the sparc port. For example, if
your work requires Adobe Acrobat Reader, you'll find it's available for
Solaris/SPARC, Solaris/x86, and Linux/i386, but not for Linux/SPARC.  You
should check out the applications you'll need and determine what operating
system they'll run under.

-- 
Andy Dougherty  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dept. of Physics
Lafayette College, Easton PA 18042



Re: deb-sparc X and other questions

2001-03-02 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:51:59AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hey everyone-
> 
> Let me preface this say saying that if the answers to the questions I am 
> about to ask are in a FAQ somewhere, please just point me to it.. a quick 
> search of the web and persual of the list archives still leaves me with 
> questions, however, so...
> 
> 1) What's the general state of the debian-sparc port (from a day to day usage 
> viewpoint, rather than a feature-list viewpoint). I'm trying to decide what 
> OS to run on my SS20, between debian, OpenBSD, and Solaris.. Basically, I 
> want to run a bunch of xterms and a browser (konquerer, mozilla, whichever).. 
> The key being, I want to do it in 24bit color. which brings me to my next 
> questions.

It's as usable as any other port of Debian GNU/Linux. I use my
ultrasparc Debian system as my main desktop, web browsing, email,
coding, etc..

> 2) What's the state of debian-sparc and cg14 support in Xfree 4.0.2? I 
> installed debian and upgraded to woody, but the actual Xfree 4 xserver is 
> nowhere to be found (even a quick manual check of the mirrors show it to be 
> missing). Am I going to have to build it from source? (I have the source 
> package from brandens site. it takes a _long_ time for the build to fail on 
> my SM50 cpu :)

cg14 works with the potato xserver-xsun/xserver-xun24 packages. If you
want the latest and greatest, upgrade to sid and install the
xserver-xfree86 package, and configure that.

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deb-sparc X and other questions

2001-03-02 Thread mstockda
Hey everyone-

Let me preface this say saying that if the answers to the questions I am about 
to ask are in a FAQ somewhere, please just point me to it.. a quick search of 
the web and persual of the list archives still leaves me with questions, 
however, so...

1) What's the general state of the debian-sparc port (from a day to day usage 
viewpoint, rather than a feature-list viewpoint). I'm trying to decide what OS 
to run on my SS20, between debian, OpenBSD, and Solaris.. Basically, I want to 
run a bunch of xterms and a browser (konquerer, mozilla, whichever).. The key 
being, I want to do it in 24bit color. which brings me to my next questions.

2) What's the state of debian-sparc and cg14 support in Xfree 4.0.2? I 
installed debian and upgraded to woody, but the actual Xfree 4 xserver is 
nowhere to be found (even a quick manual check of the mirrors show it to be 
missing). Am I going to have to build it from source? (I have the source 
package from brandens site. it takes a _long_ time for the build to fail on my 
SM50 cpu :)

Thanks in advance for any help,

  Matt