Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 09:22:14AM +0100, Paul Hedderly wrote: | Got the 2.4.19-pre8-ac5 patch, and tried to apply it on a standard | 2.4.18 kernel tree. I got A LOT of rejects! | | Alan's patches don't seem to be up to the usual standard... | | You DID apply 2.4.19-pre8 FIRST didn't you... Isn't the standard to apply patches to 2.4.18? Of course one might say that each appended -name is a patch to be applied to the previous part of the name, but then, that would mean -pre9 is a patch to be applied to 2.4.19. :-) Actually, what would be nice is a way to document what each patch is supposed to be applied to. This may have been some of the problems I had with -ac patches a while back when I first tried some. I usually check the patch, looking for '/Makefile '. In there they have removed a 'EXTRAVERSION = ...' and added a new one (look for lines starting with + and -). The other thing to do when adding a AC patch, is _FIND_ the patch alan used when he created his patch :) I didn't (at first) find the '-pre8'. I'm not used to look where I eventually find it. Alan used to create his patch on a standard kernel tree.. -- Cocaine toluene iodine 747 pits subway fissionable president Cuba World Trade Center SEAL Team 6 domestic disruption Kennedy FBI Marxist [See http://www.aclu.org/echelonwatch/index.html for more about this] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Paul Hedderly wrote: Got the 2.4.19-pre8-ac5 patch, and tried to apply it on a standard 2.4.18 kernel tree. I got A LOT of rejects! Alan's patches don't seem to be up to the usual standard... You DID apply 2.4.19-pre8 FIRST didn't you... At least I did the following # cd /usr/src # tar -xzf linux-2.4.18.tar.gz # cd linux # zcat ../patch-2.4.19-pre8.gz | patch -p1 # zcat ../patch-2.4.19-pre8-ac5.gz | patch -p1 # nice -n10 fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=1:ac.1.7 kernel_image ... /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18pre8ac/include/asm/pgalloc.h:261: structure has no member named `processor' /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18pre8ac/include/asm/pgalloc.h:262: structure has no member named `processor' /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18pre8ac/include/asm/pgalloc.h: In function `pte_alloc_one_fast': /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18pre8ac/include/asm/pgalloc.h:279: structure has no member named `processor' /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18pre8ac/include/asm/pgalloc.h:280: structure has no member named `processor' /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18pre8ac/include/asm/pgalloc.h:282: structure has no member named `processor' /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18pre8ac/include/asm/pgalloc.h: In function `free_pte_fast': /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18pre8ac/include/asm/pgalloc.h:290: structure has no member named `processor' /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18pre8ac/include/asm/pgalloc.h:291: structure has no member named `processor' /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18pre8ac/include/asm/pgalloc.h:292: structure has no member named `processor' init/main.c: In function `start_kernel': init/main.c:422: structure has no member named `processor' make[1]: *** [init/main.o] Fehler 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18pre8ac' make: *** [stamp-build] Fehler 2 (Sorry for the German locale ... Fehler means error.) Any hints? Kind regards Andreas. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Paul Hedderly wrote: /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18pre8ac/include/asm/pgalloc.h:292: structure has no member named `processor' Same here. I'm currently building 2.4.18-pre9. That seems to have gone ok, it's now building OpenAFS modules... On my SS4, it takes about 12 hours to compile the kernel and the OpenAFS module :) But it should be done soon, I'll let you know... -- 747 assassination supercomputer Saddam Hussein SEAL Team 6 attack Waco, Texas World Trade Center Honduras [Hello to all my fans in domestic surveillance] critical toluene AK-47 jihad Soviet [See http://www.aclu.org/echelonwatch/index.html for more about this] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Echelon keywords (was Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31 May 2002, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: On Thu, 30 May 2002, Paul Hedderly wrote: /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18pre8ac/include/asm/pgalloc.h:292: structure has no member named `processor' Same here. I'm currently building 2.4.18-pre9. That seems to have gone ok, it's now building OpenAFS modules... On my SS4, it takes about 12 hours to compile the kernel and the OpenAFS module :) But it should be done soon, I'll let you know... Yikes. And I thought my SparcStation LX took long with 4 hours. -- 747 assassination supercomputer Saddam Hussein SEAL Team 6 attack Waco, Texas World Trade Center Honduras [Hello to all my fans in domestic surveillance] critical toluene AK-47 jihad Soviet [offtopic] Last week I saw an interesting documentary on TV from the UK about the NSA and Echelon, among other things. They touched on this effort to overload it with keywords in email. An expert said that echelon would quickly adapt and not be affected. Do you really believe the US would spend uncountable millions on a surveillance network that could be bogged down with a simple handful of keywords? You're deluding yourself and annoying me, probably others too. I'd prefer it if you removed these keywords before posting to this list. geez, now I feel like such a narc :P - - On the internet, nobody knows you're wearing a tinfoil hat ;) - -- 8888888 Ian Tester *8)# \7\LINUX: because geeks will find a way [EMAIL PROTECTED] \7\ http://www.zipworld.com.au/~imroy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: pgpenvelope 2.10.2 - http://pgpenvelope.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE895hPotavukHNBh4RAle6AJwK6qmlU4EnlgJiO4vaEeoNZuqIMACgs8w4 550H6Hpix8/F1+m+KBPVFm4= =Ir12 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Echelon keywords (was Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc)
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 01:35:31AM +1000, Ian Tester wrote: [offtopic] Last week I saw an interesting documentary on TV from the UK about the NSA and Echelon, among other things. They touched on this effort to overload it with keywords in email. An expert said that echelon would quickly adapt and not be affected. Do you really believe the US would spend uncountable millions on a surveillance network that could be bogged down with a simple handful of keywords? You're deluding yourself and annoying me, probably others too. I'd prefer it if you removed these keywords before posting to this list. Continuing with the off-topic conversation, I doubt anyone playing terrorist games would be sending unencrypted e-mails. With PGP available to the masses (no matter where they are) today I'd think terrorists would be using encryption for their evil plans. Eloy.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Echelon keywords (was Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc)
Yikes. And I thought my SparcStation LX took long with 4 hours. Oh, so the LX is faster!? Good, I have one laying around here somewhere :) Do you really believe the US would spend uncountable millions on a surveillance network that could be bogged down with a simple handful of keywords? No I don't. I've been working with computers for the last 22 years (or so), the last 10 with security on large networks, database design/administration and numerous other 'advanced' topics. I consider myself _VERY_ good at what I do. If I would do something similar (I actually did when I was 14 at the school network, with the admin's knowledge) I would also make it adaptable. It's not a matter of 'loading' the servers, it's about making a statement, and to spread the word! You wouldn't know how much mail I get about this subject, from people that thought they knew what they're where doing. They had _NO_ idea!! -- World Trade Center Iran Cuba Mossad Khaddafi president PLO ammonium South Africa Treasury cracking Ft. Bragg toluene Delta Force Uzi [See http://www.aclu.org/echelonwatch/index.html for more about this] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:11:11AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: | On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:02:17AM -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: | | In any case, I guess the fact that auric has been running Sparc Linux | for some time now (more than a year?) is a testament to how solid Linux | on Sparc is. The workload on auric must be pretty high at all times, | from all points of view (network, CPU, disk I/O, etc.) | | It's definitely a workhorse, and it tasks most of the primary kernel | subsystems. | | For those interested, auric.debian.org (aka ftp-master.debian.org) is an | UltraSPARC 60 with dual 450mhz UltraSPARC II's and 2 gigs of RAM. | Attached is a Netra A1000 RAID array, with 10 36gig drives (~245 gigs of | RAID 5 with 2 hotspares). | | It's processes include postgresql (which handles the database of all our | packages, 10's of thousands of them). All incoming packages built by | developers are uploaded to this machine, which processes the incoming | packages every 15 minutes, placing them into a queue. Once a day, it | moves all of the packages into the main archive on the RAID, regenerates | the Packages listings, and begins a mirror push to the tier 1 mirrors. | | That may not sound like much, but it can easily kill most machines, and | will generally pop up some strange bugs. Sounds convincing to me. I'll go for the 2.4.19-pre8 then. -- - | Phil Howard - KA9WGN | Dallas | http://linuxhomepage.com/ | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Texas, USA | http://phil.ipal.org/ | - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
Wilmer == Wilmer van der Gaast [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wilmer Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Tue, 28 May 2002 18:39:26 Wilmer -0500: Back when 2.4.18 came out, I heard there was a problem where a patch vital to Sparc didn't make it it. Wilmer AFAIK this patch wasn't really Sparc-specific. The patch Wilmer was sort-of i386 specific, I'd say. 2.4.18 doesn't work on Wilmer anything but i386, I'm told. Wilmer Try 2.4.19-pre8-ac5.. Alan Cox kernels are very good. Got the 2.4.19-pre8-ac5 patch, and tried to apply it on a standard 2.4.18 kernel tree. I got A LOT of rejects! Alan's patches don't seem to be up to the usual standard... -- ammunition Panama cryptographic strategic FSF quiche SEAL Team 6 bomb Ft. Bragg class struggle killed 747 Saddam Hussein Iran BATF [See http://www.aclu.org/echelonwatch/index.html for more about this] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 09:44:41AM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: Wilmer == Wilmer van der Gaast [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wilmer Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Tue, 28 May 2002 18:39:26 Wilmer -0500: Back when 2.4.18 came out, I heard there was a problem where a patch vital to Sparc didn't make it it. Wilmer AFAIK this patch wasn't really Sparc-specific. The patch Wilmer was sort-of i386 specific, I'd say. 2.4.18 doesn't work on Wilmer anything but i386, I'm told. Wilmer Try 2.4.19-pre8-ac5.. Alan Cox kernels are very good. Got the 2.4.19-pre8-ac5 patch, and tried to apply it on a standard 2.4.18 kernel tree. I got A LOT of rejects! Alan's patches don't seem to be up to the usual standard... You DID apply 2.4.19-pre8 FIRST didn't you... -- Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
Paul == Paul Hedderly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Got the 2.4.19-pre8-ac5 patch, and tried to apply it on a standard 2.4.18 kernel tree. I got A LOT of rejects! Alan's patches don't seem to be up to the usual standard... Paul You DID apply 2.4.19-pre8 FIRST didn't you... -- Paul I actually looked for it, but didn't find it. It's not in Alan's directory, neither in marcelo's... -- SDI nuclear Ortega KGB Saddam Hussein ammunition BATF Kennedy FBI security cracking iodine Qaddafi Clinton [Hello to all my fans in domestic surveillance] [See http://www.aclu.org/echelonwatch/index.html for more about this] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
On Thu, 30 May 2002 10:19:30 +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: Got the 2.4.19-pre8-ac5 patch, and tried to apply it on a standard 2.4.18 kernel tree. I got A LOT of rejects! Alan's patches don't seem to be up to the usual standard... Paul You DID apply 2.4.19-pre8 FIRST didn't you... -- Paul I actually looked for it, but didn't find it. It's not in Alan's directory, neither in marcelo's... ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/testing/patch-2.4.19-pre8.bz2 Reinhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
Reinhard == Reinhard Foerster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Reinhard On Thu, 30 May 2002 10:19:30 +0200, Turbo Fredriksson Reinhard wrote: Got the 2.4.19-pre8-ac5 patch, and tried to apply it on a standard 2.4.18 kernel tree. I got A LOT of rejects! Alan's patches don't seem to be up to the usual standard... Paul You DID apply 2.4.19-pre8 FIRST didn't you... -- Paul I actually looked for it, but didn't find it. It's not in Alan's directory, neither in marcelo's... Reinhard ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/testing/patch-2.4.19-pre8.bz2 Thanx. Let's see if I can get THIS kernel to boot then... -- Uzi Marxist $400 million in gold bullion FBI colonel strategic FSF genetic Ortega counter-intelligence arrangements attack smuggle Mossad bomb [See http://www.aclu.org/echelonwatch/index.html for more about this] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
Turbo == Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I actually looked for it, but didn't find it. It's not in Alan's directory, neither in marcelo's... Reinhard ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/testing/patch-2.4.19-pre8.bz2 Turbo Thanx. Let's see if I can get THIS kernel to boot then... Do I need some additional SPARC patch(es)? It complains that it can't find 'asm/suspend.h'... -- nitrate Waco, Texas killed Khaddafi 747 supercomputer tritium Serbian Mossad jihad subway Saddam Hussein Marxist NSA NORAD [See http://www.aclu.org/echelonwatch/index.html for more about this] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which gcc? (was Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc)
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:24:38AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: [...] DaveM gets an email everytime this box crashes, although I try not to bother him too much :) He's been the key person getting the kernel stable enough for this machine (stock 2.2.x kernels could not handle the load on this box). Good to see they're making a lot of progress. The 2.4.x kernels have worked very well for me. I am a heavy i386 user, but these kernels have worked well for me on Sparc64 in the short time I have been using this architecture. I hope 2.6 will be darn good as well :-) Talking about kernels, I reported to the linux-kernel mailing list an Oops I was getting when running tcpdump (I think I mentioned some of that in debian-sparc a couple of days ago.) I was running 2.4.18 but when I upgraded to 2.4.19-pre9 the problem went away. Now, Dave Miller asked me what compiler compiled the kernel that was Oops'ing with tcpdump. I told him I was using this: Linux version 2.4.19-pre8 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version egcs-2.92.11 19980921 (gcc2 ss-980609 experimental)) #7 Tue May 28 17:16:45 EDT 2002 and then someone else in linux-kernel told me that I was using an old compiler and that I should upgrade. This compiler is I think the default I got when I installed Woody about a month ago. So, my question is: what compiler should I be using to compile the Sparc kernel and my Debian packages on Sparc? Any recommendations? Thanks! Eloy.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
Hello I'm still confused. It seems like the answer applies to sparc64. Which kernel works best for sparc32 with SMP? Working 20 hours and then crashing, is not sufficient for my goals. I mean best as in works solid with few if any problems. JD On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:02:17AM -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 09:47:48PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: Is 2.4.19-pre9 now as stable for Sparc/Sparc64 as it is for x86? Is there a web page/site that gives Sparc specific information about the kernel? Later 2.4.19pre's are pretty solid on sparc64. Our main archive server is running 2.4.19pre(?) without much problems. Without much problems? So there are some problems? I am just curious :-) stuff deleted -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 09:22:14AM +0100, Paul Hedderly wrote: | Got the 2.4.19-pre8-ac5 patch, and tried to apply it on a standard | 2.4.18 kernel tree. I got A LOT of rejects! | | Alan's patches don't seem to be up to the usual standard... | | You DID apply 2.4.19-pre8 FIRST didn't you... Isn't the standard to apply patches to 2.4.18? Of course one might say that each appended -name is a patch to be applied to the previous part of the name, but then, that would mean -pre9 is a patch to be applied to 2.4.19. :-) Actually, what would be nice is a way to document what each patch is supposed to be applied to. This may have been some of the problems I had with -ac patches a while back when I first tried some. -- - | Phil Howard - KA9WGN | Dallas | http://linuxhomepage.com/ | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Texas, USA | http://phil.ipal.org/ | - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
Mandi! Phil Howard In chel di` si favelave... nothing for SPARC in general. Does this mean that 2.4.18 works fine for Sparc 32? Or did 2.4.19-pre1 not yet fix that problem? Or was the change mislabeled? I've a SS20 with 2.4.18 that have 20 days of uptime, but doing nothing. ;) -- dott. Marco Gaiarin GNUPG Key ID: 240A3D66 Associazione ``La Nostra Famiglia''http://www.sv.lnf.it/ Polo FVG - Via della Bontà , 7 - 33078 - San Vito al Tagliamento (PN) gaio(at)sv.lnf.it tel +39-0434-842711fax +39-0434-842797 Supporta il disegno di legge sul software libero! http://www.softwarelibero.it/news/news020417_01.shtml -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Tue, 28 May 2002 18:39:26 -0500: Back when 2.4.18 came out, I heard there was a problem where a patch vital to Sparc didn't make it it. AFAIK this patch wasn't really Sparc-specific. The patch was sort-of i386 specific, I'd say. 2.4.18 doesn't work on anything but i386, I'm told. Try 2.4.19-pre8-ac5.. Alan Cox kernels are very good. -- + .''`. - -- ---+ + - -- --- - --+ | lintux : :' : lintux.cx | | Today's random quote: | | at `. `~' debian.org | | a parc i didnt it not the is for | +--- -- - ` ---+ +-- - --- -- - + -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 09:17:06 +0200, Marco Gaiarin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I've a SS20 with 2.4.18 that have 20 days of uptime, but doing nothing. my SS20, running 2.4.18-vger in SMP mode with a constant load = 4 just crashed after 26 days. i had an oops on the console, and the load went to a solid 6.0, while all the running compile jobs just hung. some open shells were still responding, but most commands failed. last time i did this the machine crashed after 18 days. -- Thomas 'Mike' Michlmayr | ignorami: n: The BOFH art of folding problem [EMAIL PROTECTED] | lusers into representational shapes. pgpY9WYglHjqe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 09:47:48PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: Is 2.4.19-pre9 now as stable for Sparc/Sparc64 as it is for x86? Is there a web page/site that gives Sparc specific information about the kernel? Later 2.4.19pre's are pretty solid on sparc64. Our main archive server is running 2.4.19pre(?) without much problems. Without much problems? So there are some problems? I am just curious :-) In any case, I guess the fact that auric has been running Sparc Linux for some time now (more than a year?) is a testament to how solid Linux on Sparc is. The workload on auric must be pretty high at all times, from all points of view (network, CPU, disk I/O, etc.) Cheers, Eloy.- P.S. 'tcpdump host x' was causing Oops in 2.4.19-pre8 for me. I upgraded today to 2.4.19-pre9 and the problems disappeared. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:02:17AM -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 09:47:48PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: Is 2.4.19-pre9 now as stable for Sparc/Sparc64 as it is for x86? Is there a web page/site that gives Sparc specific information about the kernel? Later 2.4.19pre's are pretty solid on sparc64. Our main archive server is running 2.4.19pre(?) without much problems. Without much problems? So there are some problems? I am just curious :-) Well, we've had a few minor nits. Some are not even related to the kernel (RAID hardware). For the most part, the kernel has stood up pretty well. In any case, I guess the fact that auric has been running Sparc Linux for some time now (more than a year?) is a testament to how solid Linux on Sparc is. The workload on auric must be pretty high at all times, from all points of view (network, CPU, disk I/O, etc.) It's definitely a workhorse, and it tasks most of the primary kernel subsystems. For those interested, auric.debian.org (aka ftp-master.debian.org) is an UltraSPARC 60 with dual 450mhz UltraSPARC II's and 2 gigs of RAM. Attached is a Netra A1000 RAID array, with 10 36gig drives (~245 gigs of RAID 5 with 2 hotspares). It's processes include postgresql (which handles the database of all our packages, 10's of thousands of them). All incoming packages built by developers are uploaded to this machine, which processes the incoming packages every 15 minutes, placing them into a queue. Once a day, it moves all of the packages into the main archive on the RAID, regenerates the Packages listings, and begins a mirror push to the tier 1 mirrors. That may not sound like much, but it can easily kill most machines, and will generally pop up some strange bugs. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ Deqo - http://www.deqo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:11:11AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: In any case, I guess the fact that auric has been running Sparc Linux for some time now (more than a year?) is a testament to how solid Linux on Sparc is. The workload on auric must be pretty high at all times, from all points of view (network, CPU, disk I/O, etc.) It's definitely a workhorse, and it tasks most of the primary kernel subsystems. [...] That may not sound like much, but it can easily kill most machines, and will generally pop up some strange bugs. Yes, this is pretty impressive. Does DaveM know about all the stress we're putting on this box? I guess he must be happy seeing how well everything is holding up here :-) Eloy.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:23:23AM -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:11:11AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: In any case, I guess the fact that auric has been running Sparc Linux for some time now (more than a year?) is a testament to how solid Linux on Sparc is. The workload on auric must be pretty high at all times, from all points of view (network, CPU, disk I/O, etc.) It's definitely a workhorse, and it tasks most of the primary kernel subsystems. [...] That may not sound like much, but it can easily kill most machines, and will generally pop up some strange bugs. Yes, this is pretty impressive. Does DaveM know about all the stress we're putting on this box? I guess he must be happy seeing how well everything is holding up here :-) DaveM gets an email everytime this box crashes, although I try not to bother him too much :) He's been the key person getting the kernel stable enough for this machine (stock 2.2.x kernels could not handle the load on this box). -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ Deqo - http://www.deqo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
Back when 2.4.18 came out, I heard there was a problem where a patch vital to Sparc didn't make it it. At the time I wasn't worried about it since I didn't need to go to 2.4.18. Now looking at changelogs for 2.4.19-pre1, I see mention of one change labeled SPARC64, but nothing for SPARC in general. Does this mean that 2.4.18 works fine for Sparc 32? Or did 2.4.19-pre1 not yet fix that problem? Or was the change mislabeled? Is 2.4.19-pre9 now as stable for Sparc/Sparc64 as it is for x86? Is there a web page/site that gives Sparc specific information about the kernel? -- - | Phil Howard - KA9WGN | Dallas | http://linuxhomepage.com/ | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Texas, USA | http://phil.ipal.org/ | - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 06:39:26PM -0500, Phil Howard wrote: Back when 2.4.18 came out, I heard there was a problem where a patch vital to Sparc didn't make it it. At the time I wasn't worried about it since I didn't need to go to 2.4.18. Now looking at changelogs for 2.4.19-pre1, I see mention of one change labeled SPARC64, but nothing for SPARC in general. Does this mean that 2.4.18 works fine for Sparc 32? Or did 2.4.19-pre1 not yet fix that problem? Or was the change mislabeled? Is 2.4.19-pre9 now as stable for Sparc/Sparc64 as it is for x86? Is there a web page/site that gives Sparc specific information about the kernel? Later 2.4.19pre's are pretty solid on sparc64. Our main archive server is running 2.4.19pre(?) without much problems. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ Deqo - http://www.deqo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.18 and 2.4.19 for sparc
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 06:39:26PM -0500, Phil Howard wrote: Back when 2.4.18 came out, I heard there was a problem where a patch vital to Sparc didn't make it it. At the time I wasn't worried about it since I didn't need to go to 2.4.18. Now looking at changelogs for 2.4.19-pre1, I see mention of one change labeled SPARC64, but nothing for SPARC in general. Does this mean that 2.4.18 works fine for Sparc 32? Or did 2.4.19-pre1 not yet fix that problem? Or was the change mislabeled? Is 2.4.19-pre9 now as stable for Sparc/Sparc64 as it is for x86? Is there a web page/site that gives Sparc specific information about the kernel? I would have to say 2.4.19-pre9 is the stablest (is that a word? :-) stock 2.4 kernel available on the net for sparc32. Of course, I suspect there are some hacks floating around people's trees, but those'll get merged in eventually. Regards, Rob Radez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
