Re: [hardware-donations] Sun E4500 and netra t4

2007-06-17 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-06-11 21:47:18, schrieb Josip Rodin:
 On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:36:07AM -0700, Blars Blarson wrote:
  I'm willing to pick them up, Carlsbad is about 100 miles from where I
  live.
  
  It would be good to add them to our pile of hardware to test installs
  on if nothing else.  They are newer and faster than any of my sparc
  systems.
 
 I'm not sure what's your setting, but I guess it's worth pointing out that
 these are server machines which belong to a server room - they take up a lot
 of space, spend a lot of power, and likely create an abominable noise and
 overall make up for a really, really bad neighbour :)

Like my tree Sun Blade (Paris, Basel and Offenburg) which consuming each
up to 6 KW electricity.  Oh, in Offenburg/Germany my letter use the heat
of the Machine with a heat pump in the haus where I am installed.  :-)

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
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Re: [hardware-donations] Sun E4500 and netra t4

2007-06-11 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:36:07AM -0700, Blars Blarson wrote:
 I'm willing to pick them up, Carlsbad is about 100 miles from where I
 live.
 
 It would be good to add them to our pile of hardware to test installs
 on if nothing else.  They are newer and faster than any of my sparc
 systems.

I'm not sure what's your setting, but I guess it's worth pointing out that
these are server machines which belong to a server room - they take up a lot
of space, spend a lot of power, and likely create an abominable noise and
overall make up for a really, really bad neighbour :)

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[hardware-donations] Sun Enterprise 4500 and Netra T4, USA

2007-06-04 Thread Martin Michlmayr
Is anyone interested in the following machines for Debian related
work?  The machines are currently located in Carlsbad, CA, near Lego
Land.

 We recently freed up some old Sun hardware that we're willing to donate
 for the cost of shipping.  Available are:
 
 - Sun Enterprise 4500
 - Sun Netra T4

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Re: [hardware-donations] Sun Enterprise 4500 and Netra T4, USA

2007-06-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:40:12AM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 Is anyone interested in the following machines for Debian related
 work?  The machines are currently located in Carlsbad, CA, near Lego
 Land.
 
  We recently freed up some old Sun hardware that we're willing to donate
  for the cost of shipping.  Available are:
  
  - Sun Enterprise 4500
  - Sun Netra T4

An E4500 is more or less a shipping nightmare. Do they have its rack mount
kit? Which CPUs are in it, and how many of them? Another person in England
recently told me about a similar possible donation, and they also have no
idea how to ship it...

A Netra T4 is a 4U server which should be pretty modern, and likely worth
having. What are the specifications for that one?

If it's sufficiently modern and beefed up, it might be worth shipping it
to a place with a fat pipe, but I've no idea if such a thing is being
practised. I could host it over here in Europe, if we decided that kind
of a trip was worth it.

In general, someone should ask an overseas shipping company for the price of
shipping of such large and heavy boxes. We're mostly speculating on how
expensive it would be, but Debian has money in the bank that's not being
used otherwise, so it might not be so expensive after all.

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Re: [hardware-donations] Sun E4500 and netra t4

2007-06-04 Thread Blars Blarson
Is anyone interested in the following machines for Debian related
work?  The machines are currently located in Carlsbad, CA, near Lego
Land.

 We recently freed up some old Sun hardware that we're willing to donate
 for the cost of shipping.  Available are:
 
 - Sun Enterprise 4500
 - Sun Netra T4

I'm willing to pick them up, Carlsbad is about 100 miles from where I
live.

It would be good to add them to our pile of hardware to test installs
on if nothing else.  They are newer and faster than any of my sparc
systems.

Since I've been less active in the sparc port (and debian in general,
other than despamming the bts) latly, I'll defer to anyone else that
has a good use for them.

If someone in San Jose/San Fransisco area needs them, I might be able
to deliver them in early July.

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Re: [hardware-donations] Sun Enterprise 4500 and Netra T4, USA

2007-06-04 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-04 15:52]:
 An E4500 is more or less a shipping nightmare. Do they have its rack mount
 kit? Which CPUs are in it, and how many of them? Another person in England
 recently told me about a similar possible donation, and they also have no
 idea how to ship it...
...
 A Netra T4 is a 4U server which should be pretty modern, and likely worth
 having. What are the specifications for that one?

I'm not sure, but I'll put you in contact with the donor privately so
you can check.

 If it's sufficiently modern and beefed up, it might be worth
 shipping it to a place with a fat pipe, but I've no idea if such a
 thing is being practised. I could host it over here in Europe, if we
 decided that kind of a trip was worth it.

I doubt shipping to Europe is worth it, but it shouldn't be too hard
to find hosting in California.  Maybe you want to check whether this
box would be useful and whether someone can host it?
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Re: [hardware-donations] Sun Enterprise 4500 and Netra T4, USA

2007-06-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:12:28PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
   but it shouldn't be too hard to find hosting in California.  Maybe you
   want to check whether this box would be useful and whether someone can
   host it?
  We don't have any sort of a database of hosting offers, do we?
 
 I don't think so.

Maybe it would be worth setting up a separate (archived) mail alias @d.o
and then tell people that they can send information there.

Mind if I bring this up on -project so that we get some broader input?

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Re: [hardware-donations] Sun Enterprise 4500 and Netra T4, USA

2007-06-04 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-04 23:03]:
  but it shouldn't be too hard to find hosting in California.  Maybe you
  want to check whether this box would be useful and whether someone can
  host it?
 We don't have any sort of a database of hosting offers, do we?

I don't think so.
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Re: [hardware-donations] Sun Enterprise 4500 and Netra T4, USA

2007-06-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 08:38:53PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
  What are the specifications for that one?
 
 I'm not sure, but I'll put you in contact with the donor privately so
 you can check.

Thanks.

  If it's sufficiently modern and beefed up, it might be worth
  shipping it to a place with a fat pipe, but I've no idea if such a
  thing is being practised. I could host it over here in Europe, if we
  decided that kind of a trip was worth it.
 
 I doubt shipping to Europe is worth it,

We won't actually know unless we get some numbers. If we get charged e.g.
750 USD for shipping a large box overseas, that sounds expensive, but if
the overhead of finding such a machine and getting it to the right place
is large and takes a lot of time to get it online in a decent setting,
so large that nobody actually wants to bother, and no progress is made,
then those 750 USD were not worth saving.

 but it shouldn't be too hard to find hosting in California.  Maybe you
 want to check whether this box would be useful and whether someone can
 host it?

We don't have any sort of a database of hosting offers, do we?

If we don't, debian-admin should have received a fair few offers back when
they posted a public call for hosting of those two machines, so if that info
can be collected and verified again, it should be useful.

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Re: netra t4

2004-04-13 Thread VEGH Karoly

On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 04:22:14PM -0800, David S. Miller wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:56:57 -0800
 Eric Brower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2003/debian-sparc-200301/msg00149.html
 
 I overlooked this patch, it was not that I had rejected it.
 
 Eric, thanks for bringing it back to my attention, I'll add it to all
 of my trees right now.

hi all, waking up this thread again.

Are any debian installer images available with the patch mentioned above?

tried with actual sarge and woody images, without success on this netra t4.

tia

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Re: netra t4

2003-12-19 Thread VEGH Karoly
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 03:15:02PM -0800, Eric Brower wrote:
 You may wish to speak with Johan Verrept-- he built a kernel for use on 
 his Netra T4.

well, I tried to reach him but he's busy or maybe my mails go under
in the daily mail-noise...

all-in-all: I still cannot boot, are there any docs about building 
tftpboot.img -es for sparc? I do have already an Ultra-10 running with
debian, so I do not need to cross-compile, but how to build a tftpboot.img?
with or without crosscompiling, both interests me.

tia

charlie

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Re: netra t4

2003-12-19 Thread Eric Brower
Take a look at the Linux on the Sun JavaStation howto-- that describes 
the process in detail.


E

VEGH Karoly wrote:

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 03:15:02PM -0800, Eric Brower wrote:

You may wish to speak with Johan Verrept-- he built a kernel for use on 
his Netra T4.



well, I tried to reach him but he's busy or maybe my mails go under
in the daily mail-noise...

all-in-all: I still cannot boot, are there any docs about building 
tftpboot.img -es for sparc? I do have already an Ultra-10 running with

debian, so I do not need to cross-compile, but how to build a tftpboot.img?
with or without crosscompiling, both interests me.

tia

charlie





Re: netra t4

2003-12-15 Thread VEGH Karoly
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 04:22:14PM -0800, David S. Miller wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:56:57 -0800
 Eric Brower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2003/debian-sparc-200301/msg00149.html
 
 I overlooked this patch, it was not that I had rejected it.
 
 Eric, thanks for bringing it back to my attention, I'll add it to all
 of my trees right now.

it's really nice that we found the prob. do I have to cvs checkout your tree, 
and build my own tftpboot.img or do you have any tftpboot.img built already
by chance?

charlie

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Re: netra t4

2003-12-11 Thread VEGH Karoly
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 05:19:58PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
  Booting Linux...
  sab82532_console_setup: can't get SAB82532 chainProgram terminated
  ok 
 
 Boot with linux -p (or boot net linux -p for netboot). See if we can
 see some more info.

ok boot net linux -p
Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],70/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1:  File and args: 
linux -p  
Timeout waiting for ARP/RARP packet
464c00 
PROMLIB: Sun IEEE Boot Prom 4.2.4 2001/06/13 10:10
4Linux version 2.4.18 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version egcs-2.92.11 19980921 
(gcc2 ss-980609 experimental)) #2 Thu Apr 11 14:2
4ARCH: SUN4U
Linux version 2.4.18 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version egcs-2.92.11 19980921 
(gcc2 ss-980609 experimental)) #2 Thu Apr 11 14:37:2
4ARCH: SUN4U
ARCH: SUN4U
Ethernet address: 00:03:ba:0f:6c:fb
Remapping the kernel... done.
On node 0 totalpages: 195880
zone(0): 196447 pages.
zone(1): 0 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Booting Linux...
Found CPU 0 (node=f006fb30,mid=0)
Found 1 CPU prom device tree node(s).
Kernel command line: linux -p
Calibrating delay loop... 499.71 BogoMIPS
Memory: 1542432k available (1944k kernel code, 512k data, 168k init) 
[f800,5febe000]
Dentry-cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 9, 4194304 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 2097152 bytes)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 524288 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 1048576 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 8, 2097152 bytes)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PCI: Probing for controllers.
PCI: Found SCHIZO, control regs at 04000440
SCHIZO PBMB: Local PCI config space at 07ffee00
SCHIZO PBMA: Local PCI config space at 07ffec00
PCI0(PBMB): Bus running at 33MHz
PCI0(PBMA): Bus running at 66MHz
ebus: No EBus's found.
sab82532_console_setup: can't get SAB82532 chainProgram terminated
ok 
 


and if i boot from the cd:


  Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux 3.0!

This is the Debian Install CD. Keep it once you have installed your
system, as you can boot from it to repair the system on your hard disk if
that ever becomes necessary.

WARNING: You should completely back up all of your hard disks before
  proceeding. The installation procedure can completely and irreversibly
  erase them! If you haven't made backups yet, remove the rescue CD from
  the drive and press L1-A to get back to the OpenBoot prompt.

Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted
by applicable law.

[ ENTER - Boot install ]   [ Type rescue - Boot into rescue mode ]

Loading initial ramdisk

PROMLIB: Sun IEEE Boot Prom 4.2.4 2001/06/13 10:10
4Linux version 2.4.18 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version egcs-2.92.11 19980921 
(gcc2 ss-980609 experimental)) #2 Thu Apr 11 14:2
4ARCH: SUN4U
Linux version 2.4.18 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version egcs-2.92.11 19980921 
(gcc2 ss-980609 experimental)) #2 Thu Apr 11 14:37:2
4ARCH: SUN4U
ARCH: SUN4U
Ethernet address: 00:03:ba:0f:6c:fb
Remapping the kernel... done.
On node 0 totalpages: 195880
zone(0): 196447 pages.
zone(1): 0 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Booting Linux...
Found CPU 0 (node=f006fb30,mid=0)
Found 1 CPU prom device tree node(s).
Kernel command line: ro cdrom -p
Calibrating delay loop... 499.71 BogoMIPS
Memory: 1542432k available (1944k kernel code, 512k data, 168k init) 
[f800,5febe000]
Dentry-cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 9, 4194304 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 2097152 bytes)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 524288 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 1048576 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 8, 2097152 bytes)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PCI: Probing for controllers.
PCI: Found SCHIZO, control regs at 04000440
SCHIZO PBMB: Local PCI config space at 07ffee00
SCHIZO PBMA: Local PCI config space at 07ffec00
PCI0(PBMB): Bus running at 33MHz
PCI0(PBMA): Bus running at 66MHz
ebus: No EBus's found.
sab82532_console_setup: can't get SAB82532 chainProgram terminated
ok


 This seems to be a problem with the serial console driver in the kernel.
 What images are you using? 

from ftp.debian.org:

ftp pwd
257 /debian/dists/woody/main/disks-sparc/3.0.23-2002-05-21/sun4u
ftp ls tftpboot.img
200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
150 Here comes the directory listing.
-rw-rw-r--1 1176 1176  4591072 May 18  2002 tftpboot.img
226 Directory send OK.
ftp 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /tftpboot/AC1533C9 
-rw-r--r--1 root root  4591072 Dec 10 21:34 /tftpboot/AC1533C9
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$


I do need sun4u or? not sun4cmd?

 Note the installer fully supports serial
 console (I use it all the time).

i hope as well that this is only a PEBKAC at me...

thx for the help.

charlie

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Re: netra t4

2003-12-11 Thread Ben Collins
  This seems to be a problem with the serial console driver in the kernel.
  What images are you using? 
 
 from ftp.debian.org:

Try the images here:

http://www.phunnypharm.org/pub/for/sparc-folks/disks-sparc/current/

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Re: netra t4

2003-12-11 Thread Eric Brower
Johan Verrept sent a patch to this list and DaveM on 26.Jan.2003 for 
proper booting on the T4, but it apparently never made it into the 
kernel sources (as per bkbits).  It does not specifically address the 
SAB issue, but does address the fill_ebus_child issue.


http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2003/debian-sparc-200301/msg00149.html


E

VEGH Karoly wrote:

On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 08:53:03AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:


This seems to be a problem with the serial console driver in the kernel.
What images are you using? 


from ftp.debian.org:


Try the images here:

http://www.phunnypharm.org/pub/for/sparc-folks/disks-sparc/current/



tried: 
http://www.phunnypharm.org/pub/for/sparc-folks/disks-sparc/current/sparc64/tftpboot.img

1: booting with a simple 'boot net'

-

ok boot net
Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],70/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1:  File and args:   
Timeout waiting for ARP/RARP packet
535400 
Remapping the kernel... done.

Booting Linux...
UGH: property for SUNW,lomv was 24, need  1

---

as for the last line, I found the following URL:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2003/debian-sparc-200302/msg00034.html



2: booting with 'boot net linux -p'



ok boot net linux -p  
Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],70/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1:  File and args: linux -p  
Timeout waiting for ARP/RARP packet   
535400
PROMLIB: Sun IEEE Boot Prom 4.2.4 2001/06/13 10:10

4Linux version 2.4.21 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.2 (Debian)) #1 Sat 
Nov 29 15:40:07 EST 2003
4ARCH: SUN4U
Linux version 2.4.21 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.2 (Debian)) #1 Sat 
Nov 29 15:40:07 EST 2003
4ARCH: SUN4U
ARCH: SUN4U
Ethernet address: 00:03:ba:0f:6c:fb
Remapping the kernel... done.
On node 0 totalpages: 195776
zone(0): 196447 pages.
zone(1): 0 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Booting Linux...
Found CPU 0 (node=f006fb30,mid=0)
Found 1 CPU prom device tree node(s).
Kernel command line: linux -p
Calibrating delay loop... 499.71 BogoMIPS
Memory: 1547720k available (2504k kernel code, 576k data, 184k init) 
[f800,5febe000]
Dentry cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 9, 4194304 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 2097152 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 8192 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 1048576 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 8, 2097152 bytes)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PCI: Probing for controllers.
SCHIZO0 PBMB: ver[4:0], portid 8, cregs[4000440] pregs[4000470]
SCHIZO0 PBMB: PCI CFG[7ffee00] IO[7ffef00] MEM[7fe]
SCHIZO0 PBMA: ver[4:0], portid 8, cregs[4000440] pregs[4000460]
SCHIZO0 PBMA: PCI CFG[7ffec00] IO[7ffed00] MEM[7fd]
PCI-IRQ: Routing bus[ 0] slot[ 5] map[0] to INO[1d]
PCI-IRQ: Routing bus[ 0] slot[ 5] map[0] to INO[1f]
PCI-IRQ: Routing bus[ 0] slot[ 6] map[0] to INO[18]
PCI-IRQ: Routing bus[ 0] slot[ 6] map[0] to INO[19]
PCI0(PBMB): Bus running at 33MHz
PCI-IRQ: Routing bus[ 1] slot[ 4] map[0] to INO[04]
PCI-IRQ: Routing bus[ 2] slot[ 0] map[1] to INO[01]
PCI-IRQ: Routing bus[ 2] slot[ 1] map[1] to INO[02]
PCI-IRQ: Routing bus[ 2] slot[ 2] map[1] to INO[03]
PCI-IRQ: Routing bus[ 2] slot[ 3] map[1] to INO[00]
PCI0(PBMA): Bus running at 66MHz
ebus0: [flashprom] [bbc] [power] [i2c - (dimm-fru) (dimm-fru) (dimm-fru) 
(dimm-fru) (dimm-fru) (dimm-fru) (dimm-fru) (1
0Kernel panic: fill_ebus_child
 Press L1-A to return to the boot prom

---


hope this tells you more than it does to me... 


thanks for the help,


charlie






Re: netra t4

2003-12-11 Thread David S. Miller
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:56:57 -0800
Eric Brower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2003/debian-sparc-200301/msg00149.html

I overlooked this patch, it was not that I had rejected it.

Eric, thanks for bringing it back to my attention, I'll add it to all
of my trees right now.

Thanks again.



netra t4

2003-12-10 Thread VEGH Karoly

Hi all,

I am trying to set up a Sun Netra T4, but at both install/boot methods
(cdrom and net) I get the following:

Booting Linux...
sab82532_console_setup: can't get SAB82532 chainProgram terminated
ok 


Since this box has no VGA card, I tried to start the install 
from the serialconsole from another linux(intel)box with 
minicom, with having the serialport of the intelbox connected
to the Port A of the Netra.

what can I do to be able to be able to start the installer?
As I understand this is some kind of Terminal prob, where
the installer cannot start something installer-sepcific
through the serial console.

Is there any possibility to start up some text-only installation?
Or how else am I supposed to do the setup?

any help is appreciated

tia

charlie

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Re: netra t4

2003-12-10 Thread Ben Collins
 Booting Linux...
 sab82532_console_setup: can't get SAB82532 chainProgram terminated
 ok 

Boot with linux -p (or boot net linux -p for netboot). See if we can
see some more info.

This seems to be a problem with the serial console driver in the kernel.
What images are you using? Note the installer fully supports serial
console (I use it all the time).

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