Re: superuser telnet login refused

1996-06-11 Thread Paul Wade
Thanks to all who replied. I only do this with systems that
are not connected to the internet. This one is experimental,
but I like to have an old 386 system for making kernels or
whatever. I edited the /etc/passwd file to set paul and root
to have no password. Now, I just telnet in as paul and do an
su. If the machine was connected to the Internet, I would
only allow telnet logins of "guest" type. The reason for this
crude setup is that I have virtual IP running and the Win95
box is getting web, ftp, samba, and telnet services from the
Linux server. I can jump over to the telnet window to change
a cgi script and then go to the browser window and test it.
I would like to convert to a Linux client. Has anybody had
good results running X on a 486DX-66 with 8mb? The 386's
are working great as test servers! I am seeing a 2 mbit/sec
ftp rate on a machine built from "leftovers".

Paul Wade
Backwoods Hacker E-Zine - "Roughing it in a digital world"


DEBIAN Linux on floppy disks

1996-06-11 Thread Fritz Ilg
Hi Debian Linux users:

I am a Linux novice and I have a Slackware Linux distribution installed
on my Toshiba 105CS Satellite, which works fine. I am planning to install
DEBIAN Linux on to my Laptop. Unfortunately I have no CD-ROM drive avail- 
able with this Laptop which make this attempt impossible.
I have one CD-ROM with the DEBIAN Linux distribution on it. As I am able
to run this CD on a Windows-based PC-System WIN95 on a seperat computer I 
thought it might be possible to make floppys, like I did with the 
Slackware distribution. I soon realized that a lot of files are too large 
to fit onto the disk.

Is there anybody out there ...who can give me some advises how I can
solve this problem.

Many thanks to all of you.

Fritz Ilg


Re: loss of routing info with 2.0.0

1996-06-11 Thread Rob Browning
Rick Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have compiled the 2.0.0 kernel (successfully), but lost my routing
> info in the process (coming from 1.3.95).  "route" only shows the
> machine itself.
> 
> If i manually add the missing router & gateway, it works fine, but i
> lose this on reboot. 

I don't know if this is related, but I lost all net connectivity on
one of my ethernet connected machines today when I upgraded to 2.0.
It turned out that the difference was that the machine had
NETMASK="255.255.0.0" instead of NETMASK="255.255.255.0".  When I
changed this in /etc/init.d/network, the problem went away.

--
Rob


kernel-package

1996-06-11 Thread Bruce Perens
Kernel-package seems to be in the project/experimental directory of the
archive. I don't know why...

Bruce


Debian 1.1 will include the Linux 2.0 kernel

1996-06-11 Thread Bruce Perens
I see everyone wants to know. Yes, I will include the Linux 2.0 kernel in the
latest boot disk set, which will be uploaded this evening. I also have a
kernel-image package, although I am not the official kernel maintainer.

Thanks

Bruce


Re: help me?

1996-06-11 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Chris Nielsen wrote:

> I just downloaded what I think is Debian Linux v.93R6 And I need help 
> installing 
> it. I have three files called "1440_base_floppy_[1|2|3]", as well as what 
> appear to be 
> root and boot files on my d:.  I have created a seperate partition on my C: 
> for MS-DOS, 
> and left an un-partitioned area of about 100 meg for debian.  What do I do 
> now?  the 
> three main files don't fit on one floppy disk, at least not one formatted by 
> Windows 
> 95, and neither will the boot floppy (after it's un-gziped).  Also, Should I 
> go ahead 
> and partition that 100 meg I left on c:, and Should I wait for the Beta 1.1 
> to become 
> stable before I install?  Thanks for you help, it's really appreciated!

Hi Chris.  Whether you choose to install 0.93R6 or Beta 1.1 (which now resides
in the "unstable" directory), you will need to use a program called rawrite.exe
in msdos to write the files you mentionned directly to pre-formatted floppies. 
You cannot copy the files using the dos "copy" command, or the disks will not
work for the installation.  The program, rawrite, should be available on the ftp
site where you found the floppy images, perhaps in a directory called "tools" or
something.  You may find that 100MB will not be enough to create more than a
simple system, but that depends on what you choose to install.

I suggest that you use the 1.1 Beta version.  In the directory with the floppy
disk images, you will find a document which explains in detail how to intall the
1.1 Beta system from floppy disks.  This information is also available at the
Debian www page http://www.debian.org under the 1.1 Beta link near the top of
the page.

Good Luck.  Syrus.



--
Syrus Nemat-Nasser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>UCSD Physics Dept.


Re: traceroute 1.1 upgrade problems

1996-06-11 Thread eichin
> traceroute: IP_HDRINCL:Protocol not available

Probably you're still running the 1.2.13 kernel, but the new
traceroute uses some features only in 1.3... at least that's why I see
that message. 


help me?

1996-06-11 Thread Chris Nielsen
I just downloaded what I think is Debian Linux v.93R6 And I need help 
installing 
it. I have three files called "1440_base_floppy_[1|2|3]", as well as what 
appear to be 
root and boot files on my d:.  I have created a seperate partition on my C: for 
MS-DOS, 
and left an un-partitioned area of about 100 meg for debian.  What do I do now? 
 the 
three main files don't fit on one floppy disk, at least not one formatted by 
Windows 
95, and neither will the boot floppy (after it's un-gziped).  Also, Should I go 
ahead 
and partition that 100 meg I left on c:, and Should I wait for the Beta 1.1 to 
become 
stable before I install?  Thanks for you help, it's really appreciated!



Re: linux2.0

1996-06-11 Thread Rob Browning
Derek Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am afraid I am not familiar with the kernel-package package.
> Is this a package to build any kernel version and install it in
> a debian way?

Bingo.  I'm using it as we speak.  I'm not sure if it has made it to
the unstable tree on all the mirrors yet, but it should soon.

When you get it, the docs are /usr/doc/kernel-package, as expected.
--
Rob


Re: linux2.0

1996-06-11 Thread Austin Donnelly
On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Would the release of debian 1.1 use the new stable Linux (v2.0)?

Yes, Debian 1.1 will ship with a 2.0 kernel.

(In fact, the latest available kernel will generally be made available
as the kernel-image-2.0.xx-0.deb).

Austin


Re: stty vs setserial

1996-06-11 Thread Rob Browning
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I can point setserial at a particular port, but can't seem to tell it to
> set the stop bits to two.
> I can tell stty to set the stop bits, but can only seem to use it while on
> the tty in question. Is there any way to point stty at the port I want
> changed?

Unless I'm mistaken, the paradigm is

stty options < /dev/tty-whatever

Hope that helps.
--
Rob


loss of routing info with 2.0.0

1996-06-11 Thread Rick Hawkins

I have compiled the 2.0.0 kernel (successfully), but lost my routing
info in the process (coming from 1.3.95).  "route" only shows the
machine itself.

If i manually add the missing router & gateway, it works fine, but i
lose this on reboot. 

help! :)

rick


FAQ: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages

1996-06-11 Thread Sven Rudolph
  Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian Linux
  Sven Rudolph, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  $Id: packages.sgml,v 1.18 1996/06/11 19:54:00 sr1 Exp sr1 $
  __

  Table of Contents:

  1.General Questions

  1.1.  What is Debian Linux

  1.2.  Purpose of this document

  1.3.  What do I need to know in order to become a package maintainer
  ?

  1.4.  Feedback

  2.Packages that have no current maintainer

  3.Packages that the maintainer wants to give away

  4.Packages that someone is working on

  5.Programs that aren't available yet in Debian

  5.1.  Programming and development:

  5.2.  Mail software:

  5.3.  USENET news software:

  5.4.  Math packages:

  5.5.  Graphics:

  5.6.  Misc Tools:

  5.7.  Editors:

  5.8.  Games:

  5.9.  X11:

  5.10. Communication

  5.11. TeX

  5.12. Networking

  5.13. System Tools

  5.14. Text utilities

  6.Programs that someone should write

  7.Beyond packages
  __

  1.  General Questions

  1.1.  What is Debian Linux

  Please read the Debian Linux FAQ.  The Debian Linux WWW server is at
  http://www.debian.org/ , the FAQ is located at
  http://www.debian.org/FAQ/ . The FAQ is available via FTP at
  ftp.debian.org:/debian/doc .

  1.2.  Purpose of this document

  This document is intended to identify areas that need your
  contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite
  often, so it supplements the Debian Linux FAQ.

  1.3.  What do I need to know in order to become a package maintainer ?

  Please read the documents at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-
  developer/ .

  The packaging guidelines are included in the dpkg-1.1.0 package.

  You should subscribe to the debian-devel mailing list, details are
  given in the FAQ.

  1.4.  Feedback

  Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to Sven
  Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Please mention to which version of
  this document your comments refer.

  2.  Packages that have no current maintainer

  Packages listed in this section are still part of Debian (unless they
  have too many bugs), but the maintainer had reasons to not continue
  maintaining it. (Remember: Debian is mainly produced by volunteers who
  are not paid for maintaining Debian packages.)

  If you find that you need to discontinue maintaining a package, send
  me an e-mail.

  If you believe that the following list is incomplete, i.e., that there
  are other packages in the Debian distribution that currently have no
  active maintainer, send me an e-mail.

  If you would like to maintain one of the packages listed here, send me
  an e-mail.

  previously maintained by Ian Murdock [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  acm

  o  aout-librl (this package might be unnecessary now)

  o  elisp-manual

  o  glibcdoc

  o  metamail

  o  pmake

  previously maintained by Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  trn

  3.  Packages that the maintainer wants to give away

  Packages listed in this section are still part of Debian, but the
  maintainer wants to find a new maintainer. It isn't as urgent to find
  a new maintainer as in the previous section.

  If you maintain Debian packages that you would like to hand off, send
  me an e-mail, then I will add this package to this section.

  If you would like to maintain one of the packages listed here, write
  to the current maintainer of this package.

  currently maintained by Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  seyon

  currently maintained by David Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  tclX

  currently maintained by Christian Linhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  statserial

  o  tgif

  o  xarchie

  currently maintained by Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  m4

  o  cron

  currently maintained by Jim Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  pari

  currently maintained by Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Aachen.DE :

  o  xsysinfo

  o  xcolors

  o  xautolock

  4.  Packages that someone is working on

  Programs listed in this section aren't yet available as Debian
  packages, but someone is working on providing a package.

  If you would like to work on one of these packages please contact the
  responsible person listed below.

  Chris Fearnley [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  dome (http://www.netaxs.com/ cjf/jpegs.html)

  o  and probably : xli, Tix, povray

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl R. Sackett) :

  o  CLX - Common Lisp Xlib implementation

  o  PCL - Portable Common Loops for GCL

  Dale Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  lclint (ftp://larch.lcs.mit.edu/pub/Larch/lclint/ )

  Richard Kaszeta [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  xmotd

  Mike Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  mule

  Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

  o  xbill

  o  NCSA Mosaic (waiting for 2.7)

  "behan (b.) webster" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  o  sxpc (Simple Xwindows Protocol Compresser)

  o  qfax (multi-user e-mail extension to efax).

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  o  

Trantor T130B SCSI Configuration

1996-06-11 Thread Bill Bumgarner
First, thanks to all who assisted me with the Tulip+2940 kernel-- as it  
turns out, debian 1.1 ships with the tulip driver as a dynamically loadable  
module... so, merely adding 'tulip' to /etc/modules fixes the lacking driver  
problem!!! [though, tulip didn't work for me-- i had to use the *other*  
21040 driver].

Anyway, NEXT PROBLEM:

I'm now building an older 486 DX/2 with Debian 1.1beta.  I have already  
built it once using the internal 80 MB IDE drive [blech!], but have recently  
obtained a Trantor T130B SCSI card (and already have a 400 MB SCSI drive I  
can recycle).

BUT;  I'm having a hard time configuring *something* such that Debian  
recongizes the drive.  I'm pretty sure it is recognizing the controller card  
[then again, maybe not].

I suspect that I have not correctly terminated the SCSI bus, but need some  
assistance in figuring out *exactly* how it should be terminated.   
Specifically, the SCSI controller card has a 25-pin port on the back (YUCK!)  
and a 50 pin connector on the board.  The dip switches are set such that it  
is IRQ 5 at port 350H (0x350?).  It is an NCR53c400 based controller card.

The 50 pin connector has three terminating resistor packs ajacent to it...

SO: Question:

I want to connect a Seagate ST1480N drive to the card via the internal 50  
pin connector... What needs to be terminated and how should the drive be  
configured?

Specifically, does the 25 pin connector on the back need a terminator?
Should the terminating resistor packs on the card remain on the card?
How should the drive be configured?

Tech specs on the Trantor are here:



Re: superuser telnet login refused

1996-06-11 Thread Karl Ferguson


binnxr9gL1hks.bin
Description: application/pgp-message


Re: linux2.0

1996-06-11 Thread Derek Lee
Rob Browning wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure if it'll be packaged in time for the initial 1.1 release,
> but it'll certainly be available shortly thereafter.
> 
> Anyway, using the new kernel-package package, it's pretty trivial to
> do it yourself.
> 
I am afraid I am not familiar with the kernel-package package.
Is this a package to build any kernel version and install it in
a debian way?

Derek


Re: linux2.0

1996-06-11 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Would the release of debian 1.1 use the new stable Linux (v2.0)?

I'm not sure if it'll be packaged in time for the initial 1.1 release,
but it'll certainly be available shortly thereafter.

Anyway, using the new kernel-package package, it's pretty trivial to
do it yourself.

--
Rob


Re: ncr-810 support?

1996-06-11 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Dale Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
] It would appear that the boot disks for debian 1.1 beta don't have
] generic ncr-810 SCSI support - the .93 disks did.  Are there
] alternative boot disks available with this support?  I perused the
] installation document and saw no mention of it.

   I ran in to this same problem.  I made a custom boot disk with the 
NCR driver.  It's available at:
ftp://ftp.cs.colorado.edu/users/kuzminsk/boot-disk.gz

   It's not the latest and greatest version kernel, and it doesnt mimick
the Debian boot disk exactly, but it's worked well for me.

   
Sebastian Kuzminsky
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


linux2.0

1996-06-11 Thread dkklee
Would the release of debian 1.1 use the new stable Linux (v2.0)?

--Derek Lee


Re: Packages need libc.so.4

1996-06-11 Thread Rob Browning
"Larry Loos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm doing my first install of Debian Linux using the 1.1-Beta. I have 
> the initial system installed and now I'm trying to install the 
> packages that I want.  When I tried I got many errors that say it 
> needs libc.so.4. Where is it?

Where did you get the packages you're installing?  Most of the new
packages depend on libc5, the ELF libc.  It should have been installed
when you upgraded to Debian 1.1.  If you have old packages which
depend on libc4, and you still need to use for some reason, you can
get the libc4 (not libc4-dev) package from the development tree.  It
provides libc4 binary compatibility.

--
Rob 


traceroute 1.1 upgrade problems

1996-06-11 Thread Zachary DeAquila

I just upgraded my 0.93 laptop to 1.1, and now traceroute 
doesn't work... traceroute to anyplace returns

traceroute: IP_HDRINCL:Protocol not available


any ideas anyone?


stty vs setserial

1996-06-11 Thread Dale Scheetz
I can point setserial at a particular port, but can't seem to tell it to
set the stop bits to two.
I can tell stty to set the stop bits, but can only seem to use it while on
the tty in question. Is there any way to point stty at the port I want
changed?

TIA,

Dwarf

  --

aka   Dale Scheetz   Phone:   1 (904) 877-0257
  Flexible Software  Fax: NONE 
  Black Creek Critters   e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 If you don't see what you want, just ask --


Re: superuser telnet login refused

1996-06-11 Thread Guy Maor
On Sun, 9 Jun 1996, Paul Wade wrote:

> Before installing Debian Linux, I was able to log in
> as root over telnet. Now it is refused. I am simply
> using a Windows system as a Linux console over
> ethernet. How do I fix this?

man securetty


Re: Packages need libc.so.4

1996-06-11 Thread Christian Hudon
On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, Larry Loos wrote:

> I'm doing my first install of Debian Linux using the 1.1-Beta. I have 
> the initial system installed and now I'm trying to install the 
> packages that I want.  When I tried I got many errors that say it 
> needs libc.so.4. Where is it?

Hmm... Many packages need libc4? Are you sure you've got 1.1-beta, (i.e. 
from the unstable tree)? Because very few packages in there still depend
on libc4.

Anyhow, the package that contains libc.so.4 is "libc4" and it is in the
devel section.

   Christian



Re: Packages need libc.so.4

1996-06-11 Thread Larry Loos
A list reader kindly replied:
> in unstable/devel/libc4-4.6.27-15.deb .  Are you sure you're installing
> packages from the correct tree (_un_stable)? Packages that depend on libc4 
> are 
> in the a.out binary format, which is being replaced by ELF.

I received several private messages from readers of the list. I was
not using the correct tree as this person suggested. I will move to
the 'unstable' directory. 

I realize that 1.1-Beta is supposted to move to stable sometime on
the 12th so I will need to watch the mirrors to get the correct ones.

Thanks to everyone who offered help.

Larry Loos
Show-Me Nete-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1417 N Henderson http://www.showme.net/
Cape Girardeau, MO 63701
  314/334-9322


Re: Howto upgrade 0.93 --> 1.1

1996-06-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Juhani Luhtanen writes ("Howto upgrade 0.93 --> 1.1"):
> Is there anywhere a simple step-by-step guide on how to go and upgrade 
> one's debian? 

1. Install the latest a.out dpkg from the `upgrades' directory, for
example `dpkg --install dpkg-1.2.3.deb'.

2. Run dselect and go through Access/Update/Select/Install/Remove in
order.

Ian.


Re: Packages need libc.so.4

1996-06-11 Thread Tim 'The Unslept' Sailer
In your email to me, Larry Loos, you wrote:
> 
> I'm doing my first install of Debian Linux using the 1.1-Beta. I have 
> the initial system installed and now I'm trying to install the 
> packages that I want.  When I tried I got many errors that say it 
> needs libc.so.4. Where is it?
> 
> I'm obviously a newbie to Debian and appreciate any help some kind
> soul will give me.

Dselect can search for it... just do '/libc' and you'll find it.

Tim

-- 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 "Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try."
  -- Yoda
** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.**


dselect ( dpkg 1.2.3 (i386 elf)) unable to install 1.1

1996-06-11 Thread Oz Dror
Hi,

I want to upgrade my debian 1.0 to 1.1.
I have installed the new dpkg (1.2.3 elf)
then followed the steps in dselect.
then dselect failed in the Install step with the following error:

Running dpkg -iGROEB /u2/debian/binary
find: /u2/debian/binary/admin/tob-0.14-1.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/base/adduser-1.99-1.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/hamradio/p10cfgd-1.0-3.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/misc/mailcrypt-3.4-1.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/misc/ncurses-term-1.9.9e-1.deb: No such file or directoy
find: /u2/debian/binary/net/mirror-2.8-5.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/net/xntp-doc-3.5c-1.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/tex/latex2e-doc-1.6-0.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/tex/xypic-3.2-4.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/text/apsfilter-4.9.1-6.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/text/gsfonts-2.62-2.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/text/igerman-2-3.deb: No such file or directory

-- find: /u2/debian/binary/text/texidoc-3.7-1.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/text/wgerman-2-3.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/x11/xfnt100-3.1.2-6.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/x11/xfnt75-3.1.2-6.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/x11/xfntbase-3.1.2-4.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/x11/xfntbig-3.1.2-6.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/x11/xfntcyr-3.1.2-6.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/x11/xfntpex-3.1.2-3.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/x11/xfntscl-3.1.2-7.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/x11/xmanpages-3.1.2-6.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/devel/autoconf-2.10-2.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/devel/CGI-modules-2.75-3.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/devel/dejagnu-1.3-4.deb: No such file or directory
find: /u2/debian/binary/devel/kernel-headers-1.99.7-0.deb: No such file or direy
find: /u2/debian/binary/devel/kernel-source-1.99.7-0.deb: No such file or direcy
find: /u2/debian/binary/doc/manpages-1.11-4.deb: No such file or directory
dpkg: subprocess find returned error exit status 1

installation script returned error exit status 1.
Press RETURN to continue.


The problem is that all these files do exists. and when in type 
for example
find /u2/debian/binary/x11/xfntscl-3.1.2-7.deb
I get:
/u2/debian/binary/x11/xfntscl-3.1.2-7.deb
This confirms that find is OK and that I have the file, but dselect
does not think that I have the file

Any help will be appreciated

-Oz
<
NAME   Oz Dror, Santa Monica, California   
EMAIL  [EMAIL PROTECTED] <>
PHONE  Fax (310) 396-5798

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Re: superuser telnet login refused

1996-06-11 Thread Tim 'The Unslept' Sailer
In your email to me, Paul Wade, you wrote:
> 
> Before installing Debian Linux, I was able to log in
> as root over telnet. Now it is refused. I am simply
> using a Windows system as a Linux console over
> ethernet. How do I fix this?

Fix it? It's not really broken. The 'normal' security rules say
no root logins from anywhere but the console so you can't get your
root password sniffed... if you want to 'break' the security on your
system, look at /etc/securetty

Tim

-- 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 "Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try."
  -- Yoda
** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.**


Linux 2.0 and Debian 1.1

1996-06-11 Thread jerijian
Hi,

Is Linux 2.0 going to be included in Debian 1.1 once it's
release?
Thanks.

-- 
Arthur D. Jerijian | "Who on earth can blame them?  Ah, no wonder the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | men of Troy and Argives under arms have suffered
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   | years of agony all for her, for such a woman.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   | Beauty, terrible beauty!"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Homer, the king of all poets


Re: Packages need libc.so.4

1996-06-11 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, Larry Loos wrote:

> I'm doing my first install of Debian Linux using the 1.1-Beta. I have 
> the initial system installed and now I'm trying to install the 
> packages that I want.  When I tried I got many errors that say it 
> needs libc.so.4. Where is it?
> 
This is in the libc4 package in section devel.

Luck,

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ncr-810 support?

1996-06-11 Thread Dale Martin
It would appear that the boot disks for debian 1.1 beta don't have
generic ncr-810 SCSI support - the .93 disks did.  Are there
alternative boot disks available with this support?  I perused the
installation document and saw no mention of it.

Thanks,
Dale


Dselect + NFS

1996-06-11 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
Hi,
I have just had something strange happening to me. I tried to update some
packages using dselect with the NFS option. When going into the install option
I would get an error from find about not being able to find the directory. The
strange thing though is that the directory was correct and the available 
packages were correctly updated. Mounting the partition by hand and using 
dselect
works. I recently updated dpkg so I thought there might be a problem with it.
Has anyone had something similar happen to them? Am I just doing something
really stupid?

Thanks in advance,
Luis.


NFS install - follow up

1996-06-11 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
Hi again,
I just noticed I didn't metion that I am running debian 1.1 (beta) and
dpkg -s dpkg gives:

Package: dpkg
Essential: yes
Status: install ok installed
Priority: required
Section: base
Maintainer: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 1.2.3elf
Replaces: dpkgname
Pre-Depends: libc5 (>= 5.2.18-2), ncurses3.0
Conflicts: dpkgname
Description: Package maintenance system for Debian Linux
 This package contains the programs which handle the installation and
 removal of packages on your system.
 .
 The primary interface for the dpkg suite is the `dselect' program;
 a more low-level and less user-friendly interface is available in
 the form of the `dpkg' command.

Sorry and thanks!
Luis


superuser telnet login refused

1996-06-11 Thread Paul Wade
Before installing Debian Linux, I was able to log in
as root over telnet. Now it is refused. I am simply
using a Windows system as a Linux console over
ethernet. How do I fix this?
Paul Wsde


Linux 2.0 in Debian 1.1

1996-06-11 Thread Lawrence Chim
As Linux 2.0 already released, I think it should be included
in the debain 1.1 official release.


Re: Problem with telnet login

1996-06-11 Thread Brian Sulcer
> I remember seeing in the kernel mailing list that pre2.0.13 breaks
> incoming telnets.  Are you by chance using this kernel? 
> 
> Gerry
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It turns out that the problem was with the version of login I had installed.
The maintainer pointed me to the newest version and that fixed the problem.
Thanks to all who responded.

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testing ...

1996-06-11 Thread Richard G. Roberto
I haven't heard anything from the list in a while, just checking to see if
I'm still subscribed!

Thanks

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Re: gzip and dpkg problem

1996-06-11 Thread Ian Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes ("Re: gzip and dpkg problem"):
> On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Please do tell us what the problem is if you find out.  Telling us
> > which ways of logging in cause the problem and which don't will help
> > us a lot :-).
> 
> Well, I just checked and even the latest(?) version, 2.0.7i, of getty_ps
> sets the SIGPIPE signal to SIG_IGN.  So it likes like we need to just stay
> away from getty_ps altogether (at least on ttys where pipes will be used).

It should be a simple fix to getty_ps; if anyone packages it for
Debian this will be an easy thing to do at the same time.

Ian.


Re: EMAIL! HELP!

1996-06-11 Thread Craig Sanders

On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Fundamental wrote:

> The only thing that could be the problem (?) is that i have a softlink
> from my mailbox in /var/spool to my home directory (because my / is
> full)


You probably should have partitioned the disk so that /var and/or
/var/spool were separate partitions.  Too late for that now, unless you
want to reformat.

You can still add another drive and mount a partition as /var if you
want.


Another way to do this is to move the mail spool directory to a
partition with more space available.

e.g. if /usr has lots of free space, try doing the following:

mkdir -p /usr/spool
cp -af /var/spool/mail /usr/spool
rm -rf /var/spool/mail
ln -s /var/spool/mail /usr/spool/mail


This is the reason why i tend to mount extra drives/partitions as
general purpose directories (e.g. /usr1, /usr2, /usr3 etc) rather than
as special purpose directories (e.g. /var/spool/mail, /var/spool/news).

It gives me the flexibility to move spool directories etc around on
my system from one disk to another, and just change the sym link in
/var/spool to point to the new location.

e.g. on my system, /usr2 (a 540MB quantum scsi) has a directory 
called /usr2/spool.  

/usr3 (a 650MB Micropolis scsi) also has /usr3/spool. 

news spool is in /usr2/spool/news, and mail is in /usr3/spool/mail.  I
want nn's database on a separate drive from the main news spool (to
minimise disk thrashing) so that's in /usr3/spool/nn. 

With appropriate sym links in /var/spool, I don't even have to recompile
anything - it all works transparently to the programs.

$ ls -alF /var/spool | grep -- "->"

lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   16 Jun 10 17:32 mail -> /usr3/spool/mail/
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   16 Jun 10 17:32 news -> /usr2/spool/news/
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   14 Jun 10 17:32 nn -> /usr3/spool/nn/


Some people will probably think that this is an ugly way of doing things
- and i can see their point.  But for me, the flexibility is worth a
little bit of ugliness.


Craig


inconsistency between base and sysvinit packages!

1996-06-11 Thread Carlos Carvalho
I tried to send this to debian-bugs, but it hasn't been delivered for
2 days, so I'm posting it here as well.

Carlos
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The newer base packages create /dev/tty* with permission rw-rw.
This causes an error when you try to open an xterm/rxvt window. They
quit with "couldn't open a pseudo-terminal" msg. I don't know whose
fault it is.

However, the newest sysvinit has this command in the boot script:

chmod 666 /dev/tty[pqrs]*

So there seems to be a disagreement between the maintainers, no?

Carlos
PS: please Cc: me, I don't get debian-bugs.

Carlos
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Re: gzip and dpkg problem

1996-06-11 Thread llucius
On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:

> 
> It should be a simple fix to getty_ps; if anyone packages it for
> Debian this will be an easy thing to do at the same time.
> 
Yep, it looks REAL simple.  It there isn't a current maintainer, I'll
package it up.

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Re: gzip and dpkg problem

1996-06-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Re: gzip and dpkg problem"):
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Ian Jackson  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >This means that SIGPIPE was set to SIG_IGN when dpkg started.  For
> >reasons too complicated to explain here this means that dpkg can't do
> >proper error trapping (it always gets an error indication, and can't
> >tell whether it's really an error).
> 
> Can't you just set signal(SIGPIPE, SIG_DFL) first thing in the
> main() function of dpkg? And if not, could you tell me why not
> (sounds interesting ;))

Yes, I *could* do that.  However, if I did I would simply be covering
up a problem which ought to be a problem for many programs other than
dpkg but which isn't solely because of sloppy programming.

If I add any code to dpkg with respect to this it'll be a check which
makes it bomb out with an informative message.  See, for example, my
approach to trying to run dpkg with a bad PATH.

Ian.


'nobody' doesn't exist?

1996-06-11 Thread Petri Wessman
Hmmm, I keep getting

inetd[3543]: getpwnam: nobody: No such user

messages on my xconsole. The 'nobody' user is defined in /etc/passwd,
so what's going on? As far as I know, I'm running the latest
development ("unstable") release of Debian (1.1).

It's not fatal, just annoying. Mostly I'm curious as to what's causing
it.

//Petri


Re: Help wanted :-)

1996-06-11 Thread N. Salwen
>I think it would be sufficient for people to list their qualifications
>and let the customer decide.

The Better Business Bureau approach of keeping a file of complaints might
also be useful.


Re: login and bash on a hardwired terminal.

1996-06-11 Thread eckes
> Now the question is: How do I get login to leave the stop bits alone?
/etc/gettydefs is used for this, but debian has no support for it.. hmm..
guess thats a login problem.

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last 1.1 upgrade problem fixed with NAG FORTRAN

1996-06-11 Thread James D. Freels
Dear Debian-Linux colleagues:

A few days ago, I had mentioned in this newsgroup a problem I was
having with using my commercial license of NAG Fortran on the new
Debian 1.1 upgrade.  I wish to report here the fix to the problem.

As one might expect, the problem is due to Debian 1.1 being an all-elf
installation while earlier versions were either all-aout or
mixed-aout-elf.  It turns out that my system was mixed, and already
had the old libc4 libraries loaded.  Since my version of NAG is an
a.out system, I had originally thought that I needed to specifically
point the compiler to the a.out libraries on my system.

However, as it turned out, the compiler needed the a.out version of
the gcc compiler.  More specifically, the NAG compiler looks for a
hard-coded /usr/bin/gcc to execute.  I simply had to create a symlink

ln -s /usr/i486-linuxaout/bin/gcc /usr/bin/gcc

after renaming /usr/bin/gcc to /usr/bin/gcc.elf, and my normal NAG
compile commands will work.  The Debian 1.1 conveniently makes
available several of the old a.out packages under the
/usr/i486-linuxaout tree.

If someone can dream up a more intelligent way of pointing apps
between gcc(aout) and gcc(elf), I would appreciate it.  As it stands
now, I will have to manually change gcc each time I want to use NAG
FORTRAN and an elf-binary build. 

Incidently, the NAG folks told me I had to purchase an elf-upgrade of the
compiler to get it to work on my system.  Since my kernel is now built
to run both elf and aout executables, that is not the case.

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Re: gzip and dpkg problem

1996-06-11 Thread Alexander Goldstein
On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:

> Paul Schoenly writes ("gzip and dpkg problem"):
> ...
> > $ dpkg --install package_x.deb
> ...
> >gzip:stdout: Broken pipe
> >dpkg-deb: subprocess gzip -dc returned error exit status 1
> >dpkg: error processing package_x.deb (--install)
> > subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
> >Errors were encountered... (and so on)
> 
> This means that SIGPIPE was set to SIG_IGN when dpkg started.  For
> reasons too complicated to explain here this means that dpkg can't do
> proper error trapping (it always gets an error indication, and can't
> tell whether it's really an error).
> 

[ much stuff deleted ] 
> 
> Please do tell us what the problem is if you find out.  Telling us
> which ways of logging in cause the problem and which don't will help
> us a lot :-).  If you don't want to bother trying to install packages
> (and it sometimes works even if the bug is present), try:
>   cat /dev/zero | true
> If the bug isn't present this produces just `Broken pipe' (assuming
> you're using bash as your shell).  If the bug is present it will
> produce `cat: write error: Broken pipe'.

ok, I am pretty sure I can blame this on xsm.  Whenever I try this
test in rxvt start by xsm or in rxvt started from that original rxvt,
it fails, if I start rxvt from a window manager (fvwm2) which is
itself started by xsm, the test does not fail.  Strange.  I guess fvwm resets
that handler correctly.




Re: sysklogd upgrade

1996-06-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Richard Lovison writes ("sysklogd upgrade"):
> I recently upgraded from syslogd 1.3-2 to sysklogd 1.3-6 manually using
> dpkg. When I started dselect I was informed that syslogd and sysklogd were
> in conflict, the configuration files for syslogd were still on the system.
> I proceeded to purge syslogd but was informed I couldn't because it was a
> required package.  I'm not sure what is happening here.  Can anyone help?

This is a bug.  I'll change it in dpkg 1.2.4.  You should be able to
purge a package that is marked as essential if it is no longer
installed due to having been replaced.

If syslogd is written properly there should be no problems with
syslogd 1.3-2 remaining in the `config-files' state.

Ian.


Packages need libc.so.4

1996-06-11 Thread Larry Loos
I'm doing my first install of Debian Linux using the 1.1-Beta. I have 
the initial system installed and now I'm trying to install the 
packages that I want.  When I tried I got many errors that say it 
needs libc.so.4. Where is it?

I'm obviously a newbie to Debian and appreciate any help some kind
soul will give me.

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Re: Problem with telnet login

1996-06-11 Thread Gerry Jensen
I remember seeing in the kernel mailing list that pre2.0.13 breaks
incoming telnets.  Are you by chance using this kernel? 

Gerry
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 On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Brian Sulcer wrote:

> I recently upgraded one of our machine's base packages and other packages
> to the latest 1.1 versions.  Now when attempting to telnet to the machine,
> a connection is established, the issue file is printed and then we see this:
> 
> You must exec login from the lowest level shell.
> Connection closed by foreign host.
> 
> Anyone have a clue on what might be the cause of this?  Any suggestion
> would be helpful.  Thanks.
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where are the newsgroups???

1996-06-11 Thread James D. Freels
Where are the debian news groups?  Have they completely shut down
or do we need to resubscribe (again)?

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Re: login and bash on a hardwired terminal.

1996-06-11 Thread Craig Sanders

On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Steve Preston wrote:
> 
> Ok! We are narrowing the field. 
> 
> The above command locks up the terminal big time, but...
> 
> stty cs7 cstopb
> 
> fixes it!
> 
> Now the question is: How do I get login to leave the stop bits alone?
> I can put the above command into .bashrc, but this will not fix login and
> I will still get the bunged password prompt.
> Looks like it's time to talk with Guy :-)

Sounds like you've nearly got it working, but here's a tip for you:

Rather than change s/w settings on the unix box, change the setup on the
terminal(s) so that they are as 'standard' as possible.  This means, if
the terminal setup allows it, set them to 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no
parity.  Also, unless the term's native mode provides features you need,
set the terminal to emulate vt-100 or similar.

This way, you (or whoever logs in on the terminal) can avoid having
to have special case stuff in ~/.bashrc, ~/.bash_profile to set the
environment properly according to where they've logged in from.

It also follows the KISS principle - Keep It Simple Stupid - which i've
found is a damn good principle to follow :-)



i went down the same 'terminals are cheap/free so use them' path when
i first started with linux a few years ago...in fact, multi-user &
cheap/free dumb terminals was one of the main reasons i originally
switched to linux.  

So if you're still having troubles email me and i'll do what i can to help
you out.  email me directly...i just accepted a new job and dont have as
much time to read the mailing lists as i used to. 


Another way of doing it:


If you CAN'T for some reason set the terminal as above, then you'll have
to edit /etc/rc.boot/0setserial to do an 'stty cs7 cstopb' or whatever
else is needed on the terminal.  Setting the line characteristics of
a hardwired terminal should be done BEFORE getty or login run on the
terminal - i.e. during the bootup process.

Also, if you do this you might want to put something like the following
in /etc/profile, to force the right settings every time someone logs in
(just in case the previous logged in user mucked up the stty settings):

if [ "`tty`" = "/dev/ttyS1" ] ; then
  stty cs7 cstopb
  alias exit='stty cs7 cstopb ; exit'
  alias logout='stty cs7 cstopb ; logout'
fi

This runs the right stty command at login, and aliases 'exit' and 'logout'
to make sure they're set properly on logout.

Craig