Irqtune: some stats (was Fix for your serial/PPP problems)
I've done some statistics regarding irqtune and kernels 2.0.14 and 2.0.15. The protocol was the following: 1) ftp to my ISP 2) put a file 3) get the same file 10 times with a 'mget file file etc...' I timed only the 'GET', not the 'PUT' as Linux buffers outgoing packets and tricks the figures. Test I was done on a 2.0.14 kernel with a 100kb nul file (dd if=/dev/zero...) Test II was done on a 2.0.14 kernel with irqtune and a 100kb nul file. Test III was done on a 2.0.15 kernel with a 100kb nul file. Test IV was done on a 2.0.15 kernel with irqtune and a 100kb nul file. Test V was done on a 2.0.15 kernel with a 100kb random file. Test VI was done on a 2.0.15 kernel with irqtune and a 100kb random file. The same phone line was used for tests I and II, III and IV, and V and VI. That is I didn't disconnect between I and II, III and IV and V and VI. However I rebooted and disconnected between II and III, IV and V. Here are the timings as reported by ftp, as well as the transfer rates as reported by ftp. Then come the average figures for timings and transfer rates. The average for transfer rates were computed from the average time (100kb/avg. time). Finnaly, I computed standard deviance for timings (not for transfer rate, they should be the same as timings if I remember correctly my stats (arghhh) lessons). I IIIII IV V VI Count Time Rate Time Rate Time Rate Time Rate Time Rate Time Rate -- 156.4 1.8 27.2 3.7 59.2 1.7 27.3 3.7 67.2 1.5 26.9 3.7 268.2 1.5 27.2 3.7 77.0 1.3 36.5 2.7 44.9 2.2 26.9 3.7 340.7 2.5 41.0 2.4 58.4 1.7 27.1 3.7 80.0 1.2 26.9 3.7 456.7 1.8 37.0 2.7 55.5 1.8 27.0 3.7 47.6 2.1 27.0 3.7 563.0 1.6 36.6 2.7 44.8 2.2 41.1 2.4 68.1 1.5 27.0 3.7 665.9 1.5 36.5 2.7 58.0 1.7 41.1 2.4 45.6 2.2 26.9 3.7 768.9 1.5 41.2 2.4 46.2 2.2 41.0 2.4 62.1 1.6 26.9 3.7 855.9 1.8 41.1 2.4 55.4 1.8 41.2 2.4 46.4 2.2 26.9 3.7 973.2 1.4 42.2 2.4 70.0 1.4 36.5 2.7 60.4 1.7 27.0 3.7 1042.8 2.3 36.6 2.7 60.8 1.6 27.2 3.7 48.6 2.1 26.9 3.7 -- Avg. 59.17 1.7 36.66 2.7 58.53 1.7 34.60 2.9 57.09 1.7 26.93 3.7 Dev. 10.32 5.18 9.15 6.31 11.58 0.05 The figures are quite clear. Irqtune really improves my serial performances, even with kernel 2.0.15 (see previous messages, 2.0.15 included a patch which might have helped serial performance). What I don't understand is why a file consisting of zeros only do not get the same transfer rate as a random file. I suspect an obscure PPP problem. My machine is an AMD DX2-66 with 32MB RAM, 32MB swap, and I have fast serial controllers (16550A). The modem is an external 33.6 V.34/V.FC Cardinal connected to my ISP which has 33.6 too. I'm not subscribed to the linux kernel mailing list, but you can forward this message over there. I stick with irqtune right now. BTW, I saw no ill side effect when using it. Phil.
May I have your chat scripts, please?
I am assembling a collection of chat scripts in support of an effort by our Debain developers to generate this information during setup. We need your help because the proceedure for logging in and starting ppp frames varies from ISP to ISP. With a reasonable database, most of the variations can be anticipated. If you would like to help, please send me the following (assuming you use ppp and chat): - Name and location of your ISP - contents of your /etc/ppp/options file (if empty, so state) - SANITIZED contents of your chat script - command line that you use to fire up ppp - If pppd is invoked from a shell script, I need that script - Any other files/information/proceedures needed to bring up ppp on your machine - If you use a secrets file, say what kind. I don't need the file. Please sanitize this information before you send it to me. I suggest replacing your real username, password, and ISP phone number with myusername, mypassword, and 555-1212. Above all please do not send me any information that could cause problems for you if it fell into the wrong hands. To be of use, I will have to put your information in a place where others can get to it. I will not intentionally deliver it into the hands of crackers, but I make no guarentees. If your scripts work, I want them. Even if they are not pretty, even if they fail sometimes. If your scripts fail sometimes, tell me so. If you do anything that you think might be out of the ordinary, please tell me about that. If you don't use chat, please describe your proceedure to bring up ppp as precisely as possible and include the contents of supporting files (example, a Seyon script). Remember to sanitize. If you use slip or some variant of slip supported by Debain, I'd like your information also. I don't use slip so I can't as specific as my request for ppp - chat info, but I think you have the idea. Please send your submissions to me by private e-mail. Thanks in advance for your help. Mike Taylor
Screwing up on unsubscribe instructions (Was: Re: Date: 26-Aug-1996 10:47:04 -0400)
I'd just like to make sure my apology gets through for giving incorrect instructions on unsubscribing from this mailing list. Use the WWW interface at http://www.debian.org instead. Again, sorry, I wasn't thinking... On 26 Aug 1996, R Chris Ross wrote: unsubscribe debian-user -- Barid Bel Medar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Knights of the CosmosShayol Ghul Resort and Health Spa -- I am returning this otherwise good typing paper to you because someone has printed gibberish all over it and put your name at the top. - English Professor, Ohio University --
Re: inn installation question
Erik Can't really seem to figure out what is wrong. Indeed I do not have Erik a /usr/bin/mail, could it be my use of sendmail instead of smail? If Erik anyone has any hints on how to solve this one, I'll be very grateful! Install the mailx package, it provides the simple /usr/bin/mail that is so handy for scripts. If the inn package you use does not depend on mailx, you should report this as a bug. -- Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
more on procmail
There have been a lot of posts about procmail, so I thought I'd jump in with a question too. I've installed procmail, but haven't done anything with it yet. I use Netscape for a mail reader at home and office. It only uses file locking on the system mail spool (the Inbox), not any of the folders that it uses and maintains. I figure (and Netscape sortof warns) that using a mail filter like procmail or mailagent that intercepts mail and writes it to Netscape's folders would be asking for trouble. So, I figure I need a program to use as an external movemail program for Netscape (I've been using its internal one) that has the smarts of a mail filter. Can procmail or mailagent be used as a batch movemail program like this? I figure that it would be safe, since it would only be executed by Netscape when I click the GetMail button. It's not hard to remember not to do anything else within the Netscape mail reader while it's processing the button that I just clicked to get new mail. Whether or not the above is possible, is there some other way to safely combine a mail filter program and a mail reader that doesn't use locks on it's mail folders? -- ...RickM...
Re: /etc/passwd migration between systems
Wayne Schlitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As Jim Worthington said: I do know that when I tried to copy my /etc/passwd file from a Sun system to Debian 1.1, the passwords would not decrypt correctly on login. Just another data point I just copied my passwords from my SVR4 Dell Unix system to Linux, and they worked fine. And another data point (for Crack). My old binary of Crack works on Debian 1.1, HP-UX 9.*, and SunOS password files also. I also recompiled it and it still works on the SunOS file. Also tried logging in with an HP-UX password. Also worked fine in 1.1. Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: +1-415-854-1857 fax: +1-415-854-3195 Say it with MIME. Maintainer of comp.mail.mh and news.software.nn FAQs. If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane.
FAQ: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages
Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux Sven Rudolph, [EMAIL PROTECTED] $Id: packages.sgml,v 1.21 1996/08/26 20:29:54 sr1 Exp sr1 $ 1. General Questions 1.1. What is Debian GNU/Linux Please read the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ. The Debian GNU/Linux WWW server is at http://www.debian.org/ , the FAQ is located at http://www.debian.org/FAQ/ (This copy might be out of date). The FAQ is available via FTP at ftp.debian.org:/debian/doc . 1.2. Purpose of this document This document is intended to identify areas that need your contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite often, so it supplements the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ. 1.3. Feedback Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mention to which version of this document your comments refer. 2. Packages that have no current maintainer Packages listed in this section are still part of Debian (unless they have too many bugs), but the maintainer had reasons to not continue maintaining it. (Remember: Debian is mainly produced by volunteers who are not paid for maintaining Debian packages.) If you find that you need to discontinue maintaining a package, send me an e-mail. If you believe that the following list is incomplete, i.e., that there are other packages in the Debian distribution that currently have no active maintainer, send me an e-mail. If you would like to maintain one of the packages listed here, send me an e-mail. previously maintained by Ian Murdock [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o acm o aout-librl (this package might be unnecessary now) o pmake previously maintained by DJ Gregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o biff o cdtool o unclutter o workbone o xwpe others : o elm o ifrench, igerman 3. Packages that the maintainer wants to give away Packages listed in this section are still part of Debian, but the maintainer wants to find a new maintainer. It isn't as urgent to find a new maintainer as in the previous section. If you maintain Debian packages that you would like to hand off, send me an e-mail, then I will add this package to this section. If you would like to maintain one of the packages listed here, write to the current maintainer of this package. currently maintained by Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o seyon currently maintained by Christian Linhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o statserial o tgif o xarchie currently maintained by Jim Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o pari currently maintained by Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aachen.DE : o xsysinfo o xcolors o xautolock currently maintained by Richard Kettlewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o aout-svgalib o svgalib1 o svgalib1-bin o svgalib1-dev currently maintained by Andrew D. Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o acs 4. Packages that someone is working on Programs listed in this section aren't yet available as Debian packages, but someone is working on providing a package. If you would like to work on one of these packages please contact the responsible person listed below. Chris Fearnley [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o dome (http://www.netaxs.com/ cjf/jpegs.html) o and probably : xli, Tix, povray [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl R. Sackett) : o CLX - Common Lisp Xlib implementation o PCL - Portable Common Loops for GCL Richard Kaszeta [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o xmotd Mike Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o mule Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o xbill o LPRng behan (b.) webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] o sxpc (Simple Xwindows Protocol Compresser) o qfax (multi-user e-mail extension to efax). [EMAIL PROTECTED]: o tkHTML Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o mew, giftool [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o BBDB (for Emacs: Big Brother Data Base, a rolodex with hooks into VM, GNUS, and RMAIL) Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o glimpsehttpd Warwick Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o mercury (a purely declarative logic programming language with strong modes, strong types, and strong determinism) [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o PAM (Pluggable Authentication Modules) ( http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/osf_dce/RFC/rfc86.0.txt ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o CLISP David H. Silber [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o dbackup - A Debian-specific backup program. o lockstep - A program to keep various directory trees in sync. o uucpconfig - A configuration program which will become part of my uucp package. o latex2html Karl R. Sackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o libXg - UTF-2 fonts for Sam and 9term o faces - visual list monitor Brian Sulcer [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o vile (vi-like editor) o rogue o umoria Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o vtwm: Virtual Window Manager for X11 Michael Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o amanda, the University of Maryland's free network backup system. o nntplink Bdale
can't open xconsole
Hello folks. I am having a strange problem trying to have an xconsole window working under my own login. I use a .xsession file to set up certain windows and apps I like to have available when I log in. Seems that because I have this .xsession file in there, I cannot get an xconsole window to work. The window comes up, but in the window is the message Couldn't open console. If I remove the .xsession file, the xconsole comes up fine. Here is the important stuff from the .xsession file: #!bin/bash DISPLAY=:0.0 export DISPLAY xconsole -g 490x200-20-50 ... Has anyone else encountered and solved this problem? A kind reader of this group suggested I might need to define and export the DISPLAY variable in my .bashrc, which I plan to try ASAP. Any other ideas out there? TIA! --- Key fingerprint = D6 A7 D7 8C 92 CB 42 FD 60 D5 62 1C D7 B9 EA 8E Ken Gaugler N6OSK Hybrid Networks, Inc. Cupertino, Calif. URL: www.hybrid.com (home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: users.aimnet.com/~keng) The life of a Repo Man is ALWAYS INTENSE...
using filter
How could I use filter to filter the mail from mailing lists (such as this one) into different folders. The only thing, I could think of is if there would be a way to do it based on the CC: line, but I didn't see an option in there to do filter based on the CC: line. Also, I was wondering if it is possible to filter the mail, and forward it to anoter computer. i.e. I want it stored on one machine, but also sent to the machine I read my mail on, just in case something happens to my machine. One more thing, has anyone had pgp and pine work well together. Elm works great with pgp, but I prefer pine. Thanks, Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: popclient
Miro Does anyone know how to use procmail with popclient? When Miro configured to use procmail, popclient exits saying that it can't exec Miro a few things. Any hints? :-) The two are unrelated. I use popclient as in popclient -3 -P file_with_password hostname to grab the mail. Procmail gets into the picture via the ~/.forward file once popclient has the mail delivered locally (which uses smail on my box). I explained the .forward and .procmail setup in a couple of mails here recently, email me if you can't find a copy. Otherwise, the procmail doc included in the package is pretty good. -- Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
Two X questions
I'm have these two problems lately: 1) My Cirrus Logic GD5434 works fine in 8bpp mode, but produces streaks at 16bpp. Has anyone had the same problem? Is the SVGA XF86 server bugged, my video timings screwed, or my monitor to blame? 2) Ever since I upgraded to the latest xterm-color, I can't get a colorized ls. Can anyone help?? Thanx for your time... :-)
Re: Dos to Debain serial (was popclient)
On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Miro Torrielli wrote: Oh, and does anyone know how to establish a serial connection between DOS and a debian box??? I think that you can do this with samba. I beleive that samba is available as a Debain package. Mike
sorry ... unsubscribing?
ive been on this list so long i cant remember how to unsubscribe anyone? \\ Meisetsu THE ONLY TRACE The travelling monk has vanished in the mists; but still his little silver bell persists. \\ The Australian Internet Company ISP Par Exceliance
Re: Squid 1.0.9 available at ftp.fuller.edu
Miquel van Smoorenburg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], : Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : ?? Why double the work. This was an ad for the debianized version. : : Oh I am sorry. I misunderstood. I've been keeping a debianized version of squid : since squid 1.0.3 at least, and I've been emailing with the original maintainer : (Craig Sanders) about it. It has been my intent for quite some time to make : the Interim release but I didn't hear anything anymore from Craig. : : Oh well. Your version is much better than mine. Running your squid now and have removed mine from ftp.fuller.edu. Thanks.
Re: Irqtune: some stats (was Fix for your serial/PPP problems)
On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Philippe Troin wrote: Test I was done on a 2.0.14 kernel with a 100kb nul file (dd if=/dev/zero...) Test II was done on a 2.0.14 kernel with irqtune and a 100kb nul file. Test III was done on a 2.0.15 kernel with a 100kb nul file. Test IV was done on a 2.0.15 kernel with irqtune and a 100kb nul file. Test V was done on a 2.0.15 kernel with a 100kb random file. Test VI was done on a 2.0.15 kernel with irqtune and a 100kb random file. I IIIII IV V VI Count Time Rate Time Rate Time Rate Time Rate Time Rate Time Rate -- Avg. 59.17 1.7 36.66 2.7 58.53 1.7 34.60 2.9 57.09 1.7 26.93 3.7 Dev. 10.32 5.18 9.15 6.31 11.58 0.05 The figures are quite clear. Irqtune really improves my serial performances, even with kernel 2.0.15 (see previous messages, 2.0.15 included a patch which might have helped serial performance). What I don't understand is why a file consisting of zeros only do not get the same transfer rate as a random file. If I understand your data, you're saying you get a much faster transfer rate with the random file over the all-zeros file, right? This is very bizarre. The random file and a file consisting of all zeros should *not* get the same transfer rate on any modern modem which does hardware compression (most do). The all zeros file should get a much faster transfer rate than the random file. The reason is that it is not possible to compress a random file so the best transfer rate possible would be the line speed (28.8 kbs for a 28.8 modem). A file of all zeros is easily compressible so you should do much better (theoretically 115200 kbs for a 28.8 modem which does hardware compression but in practice probably much less). Are you sure your numbers are right? If so, perhaps you're still getting overruns even with irqtune, but now much less. But the all-zeros file is getting transferred so fast (because of the compression) that it is seeing many more overruns than the random file and correcting the overruns is slower than just transferring the file at the slower rate that the random file is being transfered at. I suspect an obscure PPP problem. I suspect you're right. Have you set up PPP to use hardware flow control? Have you enabled hardware flow control with your modem init string (it may be the default anyway)? Are you setting the port speed to 115200? Another possibility is that your 16550A UART is not what it claims to be. With a non-buffered (8250) UART, I've seen this kind of behavior of faster transfers actually becoming slower because of the overruns. I suspect that irqtune would have much more of an impact on that type of UART as well. You might want to try using a communications program like minicom and see what kind of transfer rates you get there. This might help isolate whether it's really a serial problem or a PPP problem. Gerry
Re: more on procmail
On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Rick Macdonald wrote: So, I figure I need a program to use as an external movemail program for Netscape (I've been using its internal one) that has the smarts of a mail filter. Can procmail or mailagent be used as a batch movemail program like this? Yes, procmail comes with a sample script for doing this with procmail. Since my system doesn't allow forwarding to a program (gr), I just run this script that I call 'getmail' from my login shell. I suppose it would work as you want with netscape, but I can't guarantee anything. Procmail can use local locks on the folders which I assume that netscape would honor, but I haven't tried it. Appended is the 'getmail' script. Tony. #!/bin/sh ORGMAIL=/var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME if cd $HOME test -s $ORGMAIL lockfile -r0 -l1024 .newmail.lock 2/dev/null then trap rm -f .newmail.lock 1 2 3 13 15 umask 077 lockfile -l1024 -ml cat $ORGMAIL .newmail cat /dev/null $ORGMAIL lockfile -mu formail -s procmail .newmail rm -f .newmail rm -f .newmail.lock fi exit 0
/dev/psaux problems
Hello All, I finally got around to upgrading my 93R6 syatem upto 1.1.5 (at least that's what the I-Connect CD says). The X11 install went fine (used a saved copy of XF86Config) until I try to start X. It complains that it can't open the mouse which is set to /dev/psaux. This files exists and has the right permissions, major and minor numbers: ls -al /dev/psaux crw-rw-rw- 1 root sys 10, 1 Dec 31 1969 /dev/psaux If I try to cat the file, though, I get the following error: cat /dev/psaux cat: /dev/psaux: No such device I think I'm missing a driver, but I certainly don't see anything resembling PS/2 mouse driver during the Configure Drivers portion of the install. I would have expected this to be built into the Standard kernel (which is the one I selected). Does anyone know what I'm missing and how to install it? Thanks in advance, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Squid 1.0.9 available at ftp.fuller.edu
Hello, Re: 2 versions of squid 1.0.9 ?? Why double the work. We should not do that but I have used 1.0.7 from Miquel. It runs under RunCache as the user proxy with the logfile paths compiled in e.t.c. What I am trying to say (my native language is Icelandic :-) is that we could have a consensus about configuration and deal with problems relating to the install scripts together. For example I have the cache partitions mounted in the root but would be willing to move them for compatibility. Also things relating to md (RAID), performance and kernel hacking could be things we should work on and possibly end up with a special kernel and/or a HOWTO. This was an ad for the debianized version. So then this is an ad for a squid optimized debian :-) Best Regards Gudmundur Ragnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] this.is/ragnar
terminfo attributes?
Hello, I was wondering why debian's terminfo doesnt display the differnces between char chars ^B, ^_ or combinations. For example with redhat or slackware ^B == BOLD, which is true with debian as well. However ^_ with redhat and slackware is == Cyan, and ^B+^_ is == bright cyan. With debian ^_ is == to BOLD, and combinations of ^B+^_ is == to normal. I was wondering if someone could explain to me how I could make terminfo respond to these control chars the same way as termcap does in slackware or Redhat. Thanks. -- -= Senders Name : Shane Robert Stixrud =- -= Company Name : CyberChoice Solutions =- -= Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] =- --
Re: serial connection
Ooops, I meant a null-modem connection. I have an old PC XT-compatible hooked up to my 486 with a null-modem cable. I added a getty for it (COM2 == ttyS1) in my /etc/inittab file: # id:runlevels:action:process 0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 19200,9600 ttyS1 vt100 --gilbert __ Gilbert Ramirez Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Texas http://merece.uthscsa.edu/gram Health Science Center at San AntonioUniversity Health System
Re: /dev/psaux problems
On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Robert Resendes wrote: If I try to cat the file, though, I get the following error: cat /dev/psaux cat: /dev/psaux: No such device I don't think cat works here because /dev/psaux is not a regular file. I think I'm missing a driver, but I certainly don't see anything resembling PS/2 mouse driver during the Configure Drivers portion of the install. I would have expected this to be built into the Standard kernel (which is the one I selected). Does anyone know what I'm missing and how to install it? I beleive that Bruce has posted that this was omitted by mistake. One solution (although maybe not the best or easiest) is to complie a kernel yourself. Mike
Re: gcc can't find termcap library
Bruce Perens writes: - Bruce: - There is no varargs.h in libc5-dev_5.2.18-9 . Maybe older versions - contain it. - - David: - varargs.h is provided by gcc. - - Oops. Never thought of that. Anyway, nothing should use it any longer. Yeah, well, in a perfect world, nothing would use it. However, there's a lot of legacy code out there, and the fact is some of it does still use varargs. So, while I would strongly discourage the use of obsolete items like varargs and such, the fact remains, some code is still written to use them, and if it means that I can compile and use said programs on my machine with minimal effort, then I will. -Larry -- Larry Daffner| Linux: Unleash the workstation in your PC! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://web2.airmail.net/vizzie/ C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg. -- Bjarne Stroustrup on C++
Re: Q's about modifying a debian package install
Hi Al, I can't answer everything, but: Al Youngwerth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm still trying to get a grip on the whole theory of debian package = installations and I have a few questions about how one should go about = modifying an installation. I just installed the apache package. The debian installation sets up = apache to run out of the rc.d stuff but I want it to run under inetd = (it's for intranet access and security is more important than speed). = What's the right way to make this modification? To take apache out of = the start-up process should I: Change the apache script in /etc/init.d to just exit whenever its = called? Not as clean as: Run update-rc.d apache remove (this generates the error: update-rc.d: = error: /etc/init.d/apache exists during rc.d purge)? I believe you're supposed to delete the script in /etc/init.d/. Then run update-rc.d, and it will remove all the symlinks. Just delete apache from /etc/init.d and its symlinks in all the = /etc/rc.d directories? Yeah, this is the same as above, manually. (snip) What about installing non-debianized programs into my system. I've seen = people refer to installing all non-debian stuff in /usr/local. Why? I'm = writing a lot of little perl script utilities for my system. Should they = all go in /usr/local? What about the configuration files for the perl = script utilities I write. I've been putting them in /etc, should they go = someplace? That should be clarified: all unpackaged stuff _that belongs under /usr_ should go in /usr/local. /etc is still /etc, and is yours; follow the general layout, but it's not in a sort of 'distribution freeze' like /usr. Add special system-wide config files as you need, and Debian packages whose existing configuration files have been modified should respect that, offering you options like leaving your versions in place and copying the new distribution versions in as /etc/*.dpkg-dist. Nb: this is no kind of official statement. If corrections are needed, I'm sure they'll follow. -- Ed Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
varargs, terminfo, and a note for the policy manual
From: Larry 'Daffy' Daffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, while I would strongly discourage the use of obsolete items like varargs and such, the fact remains, some code is still written to use them, and if it means that I can compile and use said programs on my machine with minimal effort, then I will. I'll give up my varargs when they pry it out of my cold, dead fingers :-) OK, I hear you - here's a note for the policy manual, Ian, if it isn't already in there. Varargs and libtermcap are provided to support end-users installing legacy software, and the few packages (like Netscape) that are not available to us in binary form. Debian packages should be ported to stdarg and ncurses when they are built, please. Thanks Bruce
dpkg 1.3.10
Where can I download dpkg 1.3.10, or more specifically the new documentation (on package creation etc) in postscript form? I've only found the HTML ones so far. No sign of anything later than 1.3.6 on ftp.debian.org as yet. Thanks, hamish
Re: Bugs
On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote: Kevin M. Bealer writes (Bugs): I've submitted these two bugs to debian bugs, and got no response; I submitted them again, and still got no response. (Has the list address changed recently?) I could try again, but then I would have to wait again, and so on, so... (In otherwords, sorry for the offtopic.) Kevin: please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED], if you haven't already. (done). Bruce: this is very bad. Could you change the Pixar alias to point to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? I've made this an alias for [EMAIL PROTECTED] We know that Pixar can deliver mail here. It is definitely very bad if messages are just disappearing and not even bouncing. If all else fails the alias at Pixar should be removed. Thanks, Ian. [EMAIL PROTECTED]/GNU__1.1___Linux__2.0.14___ We believe that each man must find the truth that is right for him. Reality will adjust accordingly. The universe will readjust. History will alter. -- Steve Turner, Creed
Re: Irqtune: some stats (was Fix for your serial/PPP problems)
On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Gerry Jensen wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Philippe Troin wrote: Test I was done on a 2.0.14 kernel with a 100kb nul file (dd if=/dev/zero...) Test II was done on a 2.0.14 kernel with irqtune and a 100kb nul file. Test III was done on a 2.0.15 kernel with a 100kb nul file. Test IV was done on a 2.0.15 kernel with irqtune and a 100kb nul file. Test V was done on a 2.0.15 kernel with a 100kb random file. Test VI was done on a 2.0.15 kernel with irqtune and a 100kb random file. I IIIII IV V VI Count Time Rate Time Rate Time Rate Time Rate Time Rate Time Rate -- Avg. 59.17 1.7 36.66 2.7 58.53 1.7 34.60 2.9 57.09 1.7 26.93 3.7 Dev. 10.32 5.18 9.15 6.31 11.58 0.05 The figures are quite clear. Irqtune really improves my serial performances, even with kernel 2.0.15 (see previous messages, 2.0.15 included a patch which might have helped serial performance). What I don't understand is why a file consisting of zeros only do not get the same transfer rate as a random file. If I understand your data, you're saying you get a much faster transfer rate with the random file over the all-zeros file, right? This is very bizarre. The random file and a file consisting of all zeros should *not* get the same transfer rate on any modern modem which does hardware compression (most do). The all zeros file should get a much faster transfer rate than the random file. The reason is that it is not possible to compress a random file so the best transfer rate possible would be the line speed (28.8 kbs for a 28.8 modem). A file of all zeros is easily compressible so you should do much better (theoretically 115200 kbs for a 28.8 modem which does hardware compression but in practice probably much less). Just at a guess (and I don't know ppp internals that well), it might be PPP escaping the zero as a control character. If the software had to handle the escape sequence for N thousand nulls, it might bog it down a bit, and those escape sequences might themselves take up more space, as they often do. Really, though, I can't see that accounting for the difference on a modem that does compression. The compression should be more of a factor than escaping every character even, assuming it IS a compressed link. I don't know if PPP even escapes nulls. (clip) Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]/GNU__1.1___Linux__2.0.14___ ... although AI research had centered on the idea of creating thousands of lines of LISP code which would then somehow become intelligent ... meanwhile in the darkness, the EMACS grew and grew, unrecognized even by the AI community, fifty, one hundred times the size of other text editors. In retrospect the general lack of suspicion is [perhaps] the most convincing proof -- Why they didn't see it coming, New Brittanica 2136
Re: using filter
I use procmail for this. There are also other mail filtering programs but I have no experience of them. There is also a FAQ about filtering mail and it can be found from http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/top.h tml How could I use filter to filter the mail from mailing lists (such as this one) into different folders. The only thing, I could think of is if [snip] The second example of procmailex (5) man page does this. Also, I was wondering if it is possible to filter the mail, and forward it to anoter computer. i.e. I want it stored on one machine, but also -- Heikki Vatiainen * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tampere University of Technology * http://www.cs.tut.fi/~hessu/ Tampere, Finland
mgetty and printing faxes
Dear All, I am a bit confused about the printing of faxes received by mgetty. At first I did not know any provisions where provided by mgetty, so I wrote a tiny script, triggered by a sendmail alias which read faxes from the spool directory and fed them straight into g3topbm -l fax_name This did sort of work, its not very elegant and provided very poor quality printing of normal resolution faxes. Then I had a look at the mgetty source package, and discovered the option of executing the /usr/lib/mgetty+sendfax/new_fax script, which seemed to be able to do just that. I then took the script new_fax.lj and installed that together with the netpbm package. This drained all my memory (small system, 8 Mb RAM 18 Swap) and failed to produce high-res faxes, barely managed normal res. Those did look good. Than I noticed that the netbpm package had replaced mgetty's g3topbm. I manage to print some faxes, but the script takes ages to process. Somerhow I have a feeling that things could be optimized here. If anyone has done any experimenting in this area, I would be very interested in finding out their results. I use a hp4l and the magicfilter package. Thanks very much! Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a4.sty and a4wide.sty
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Susan G. Kleinmann writes:
Hi Hakan --
You asked:
I have latex 2e-7 installed, but I can't find a4.sty a4wide.sty, in which
package are they?
I think the Latex-2e approach is not to use .sty files, but to use .cls
(class) files. Support for a4 letter paper is built into the article.cls
file, for example, but the option a4paper.
So, to get output formatted for a4 paper, you would invoke the article style
this way:
\documentclass[titlepage, oneside, a4paper, 11pt]{article}
\usepackage{html}
\usepackage[dvips]{graphicx}
where the options titlepage, oneside, 11pt, etc., are all
optional (!); I just put them there to illustrate that you can have more
than 1 option in the []. I also added the statements regarding
usepackage as a further example of package-loading in latex-2e.
If you'd like to read more about this, you might want to get a copy
of the boot The LaTeX Companion, by Goosens, Mittelbach, and Samarin.
HTH,
Susan Kleinmann
As the normal a4paper is not very wide, my office mate wrote a package
to get bigger text-width.
It can be invoked vai \usepackage{realA4}.
Options are nohead, if no headers are used, and symetric, to place the
text in the middle of the page
greetings,
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cron
I would be grateful if anyone can tell me how to get cron to mail me its results daily. Thanx... :-)
Re: /etc/passwd migration between systems
Jim Worthington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [...] : Also I get the following message when trying to run crack ver 4.1: : : Crack v4.1f: The Password Cracker, (c) Alec D.E. Muffett, 1992 : : Version of crypt() being used internally is not compatible with : standard. : : Has anybody successfully been able to run crack on Debian Linux 1.1? [...] You need to install ufc-crypt in your CRACK_HOME-Directory. After that '$CRACK_HOME/Crack' recognizes ufc-crypt by itself. 'ufc-crypt.tar.gz' is the name of the archiv you need to get. Martin
Re: mgetty and printing faxes
On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, Erik van der Meulen wrote: I am a bit confused about the printing of faxes received by mgetty. At first I did not know any provisions where provided by mgetty, Sorry. The package was put together rather hasty and misses a lot of things. I manage to print some faxes, but the script takes ages to process. Somerhow I have a feeling that things could be optimized here. If anyone has done any experimenting in this area, I would be very interested in finding out their results. I use a hp4l and the magicfilter package. This is because pbmtools need a *lot* of memory for big images. The problem is that the original fax comes at a resolution of 204x196 (high) or 204x98 (low) which is rather different from the 300 dpi of the LJ4. The new_fax.lj script first scales up the fax and reduces it thereafter. This will take a long time with 8MB. Try to use a pipe with g3topbm and then pbmtolj with resolution set to 150. I use a deskjet where pbmtolj takes ages for *printing*, so my pipe is basically: $G3TOPBM $STRETCH $FAX \ | $PNMTOPS -width 8.27 -height 11.7 2/dev/null \ | $GS -sDEVICE=djet500 -r300 -sOutputFile='|lpr' -sPAPERSIZE=a4 \ -q -dNOPAUSE - That gives a delay of 3s between the arrival of a fax and printing, but that's on a 16MB Machine. I remember that the same script took about 30s delay on a not heavily loaded 8MB machine. The printing is as fast as the deskjet is capable, i.e. ~30s per page. -- Coming again: Best quotes of the net. Today: | Nils Rennebarth Kristian Köhntopp [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Schillerstr. 61 I'd also be interested in the comparison [of Linux] | 37083 Göttingen with a cisco router. I assume a factor of about ten.| ++49-551-71626 What? faster or slower? | http://www.nus. Cheaper! | de/~nils
dselect 1.3.9: cursor keys locked after search
In dselect 1.3.9 the cursor keys do not work anymore after having done a search (with '/'). Martin
Re: Irqtune: some stats (was Fix for your serial/PPP problems)
On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Philippe Troin wrote: I've done some statistics regarding irqtune and kernels 2.0.14 and 2.0.15. There are some nasty panic problems running this kernel with apache httpd. I'm not sure about the details ... The protocol was the following: 1) ftp to my ISP 2) put a file 3) get the same file 10 times with a 'mget file file etc...' ** snip ** I'm not subscribed to the linux kernel mailing list, but you can forward this message over there. I got this from the linux-kernel list: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 27 08:23:03 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:08:43 +0300 (EET DST) From: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Russell Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Gerry Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: irqtune: improve serial port performance by 3x? On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Russell Berry wrote: I got this, installed it on both my machines (home/work), and can see a marked increase in ppp performance. However, I'm concerned about interrupt priorities, does this effect _ONLY_ the timer interrupt priorities, or does it actually tweak the way the kernel interprets all system interrupts??? I don't like the fact that irqtune helsp interrupt performance, because the way Linux tries to handle interrupts it _shouldn't_ make a difference. The fact that irqtune obviously _does_ make a difference would indicate that the irq handling has some problem, and irqtune just masks that problem by changing the interrupt priority levels. Essentially, Linux does a EOI immediately when it gets the interrupt, and that EOI _should_ mean that all other interrupts will get through, regardless of whether they have lower or higher priority (because the EOI tells the interrupt controller that it can forget about the interrupt that we're now handling). As such there should be no effect from irqtune, because the interrupt priorities shouldn't really matter. However, Linux uses the nonspecific EOI to do this, and while that should work, it may turn out that some interrupt controllers don't like it, and for some reason mask the wrong interrupt. People who see a difference with irqtune, could you test this patch instead (it changes the low-level interrupt handlers to use the specific EOI to tell the controller that that specific interrupt is now handled). I'd be very interested in reactions to this patch indeed, can you please try it out and tell me whether this makes any difference? (This is against 2.0.14, but it should patch in cleanly against just about any reasonably recent kernel. Certainly all of the 2.0.x series) Linus ** patch left in tact ** --- v2.0.14/linux/include/asm-i386/irq.hSun Mar 10 09:28:56 1996 +++ linux/include/asm-i386/irq.hFri Aug 23 08:18:12 1996 @@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ * a bit - without them it seems that the harddisk driver won't work on * all hardware. Arghh. */ -#define ACK_FIRST(mask) \ +#define ACK_FIRST(mask,nr) \ inb $0x21,%al\n\t \ jmp 1f\n \ 1:\tjmp 1f\n \ @@ -90,10 +90,10 @@ outb %al,$0x21\n\t \ jmp 1f\n \ 1:\tjmp 1f\n \ - 1:\tmovb $0x20,%al\n\t \ + 1:\tmovb $0x60+#nr,%al\n\t \ outb %al,$0x20\n\t -#define ACK_SECOND(mask) \ +#define ACK_SECOND(mask,nr) \ inb $0xA1,%al\n\t \ jmp 1f\n \ 1:\tjmp 1f\n \ @@ -102,11 +102,12 @@ outb %al,$0xA1\n\t \ jmp 1f\n \ 1:\tjmp 1f\n \ - 1:\tmovb $0x20,%al\n\t \ + 1:\tmovb $0x60+#nr,%al\n\t \ outb %al,$0xA0\n\t \ jmp 1f\n \ 1:\tjmp 1f\n \ - 1:\toutb %al,$0x20\n\t + 1:\tmovb $0x62,%al\n\t \ + outb %al,$0x20\n\t #define UNBLK_FIRST(mask) \ inb $0x21,%al\n\t \ @@ -207,7 +208,7 @@ pushl $-#nr-2\n\t \ SAVE_ALL \ ENTER_KERNEL \ - ACK_##chip(mask) \ + ACK_##chip(mask,(nr7)) \ incl SYMBOL_NAME_STR(intr_count)\n\t\ sti\n\t \ movl %esp,%ebx\n\t \ @@ -224,7 +225,7 @@ SYMBOL_NAME_STR(fast_IRQ) #nr _interrupt:\n\t \ SAVE_MOST \ ENTER_KERNEL \ - ACK_##chip(mask) \ + ACK_##chip(mask,(nr7)) \ incl SYMBOL_NAME_STR(intr_count)\n\t \ pushl $ #nr \n\t \ call SYMBOL_NAME_STR(do_fast_IRQ)\n\t \ @@ -238,7 +239,7 @@ SYMBOL_NAME_STR(bad_IRQ) #nr _interrupt:\n\t \ SAVE_MOST \ ENTER_KERNEL \ - ACK_##chip(mask) \ + ACK_##chip(mask,(nr7)) \ LEAVE_KERNEL \ RESTORE_MOST); @@ -255,7 +256,7 @@ pushl $-#nr-2\n\t \ SAVE_ALL \ ENTER_KERNEL \ - ACK_##chip(mask) \ + ACK_##chip(mask,(nr7)) \ incl SYMBOL_NAME_STR(intr_count)\n\t\ movl %esp,%ebx\n\t \ pushl %ebx\n\t \ @@ -283,7 +284,7 @@ pushl $-#nr-2\n\t \ SAVE_ALL \ ENTER_KERNEL \ - ACK_##chip(mask) \ + ACK_##chip(mask,(nr7)) \ incl SYMBOL_NAME_STR(intr_count)\n\t\ sti\n\t \ movl
Re: can't open xconsole
Ken Gaugler writes: Hello folks. I am having a strange problem trying to have an xconsole window working under my own login. I use a .xsession file to set up certain windows and apps I like to have available when I log in. Look at /dev/console. On a stock system it should be a symbolic link pointing to /dev/tty0. Systems with serial console have it pointing to the serial device and xconsole does not like that ... Dominik
RE: cron
That's funny, I haven't figured out how to get it to stop mailing me it results! The manpage (or some other documentation I found) says to add the line MAILTO=user_to_mail_to or if you prefer, leave it blank and it should never mail. I've found the MAILTO line doesn't seem to make any difference. If the cron job produces output to STDOUT (or maybe its STDERR), I get a friendly reminder from cron. If the cron job produces no output, I don't get a message from cron. If anyone really knows how to get cron to stop pestering me, let me know. Al Youngwerth [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- From: Miro Torrielli[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 1996 5:53 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject:cron I would be grateful if anyone can tell me how to get cron to mail me its results daily. Thanx... :-)
Dr. Paul Vio, Paediatrics
Hello, I would like to get in touch with my cousin Dr. Paul Vio. His work was related to the University of Leiden. He is in his sixties, and may have retired. Thank you very much. Marko. *** Learning without thought is labour lost; thought without learning is perilous. Confucius (c.551 B.C. - c.479 B.C.) *** Marko Wolf-Pany, P.Eng. ISEM - Integrated Software Engineering Management Integrated Systems Working For People 787A Ridgewood Avenue, Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1V 6M8 Phone: (613)521-9328, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
tar-1.11.11-2.deb broken?
Hi, I've just spent the last few hours trying to figure out why make-kpkg wouldn't work for me. It looks like tar-1.11.11-2.deb from unstable is the culprit: with this tar, I get a file permission modification error for include/asm when make-kpkg dist is run. Anyways, downgrading to the tar of the buzz release seem to fix this for me. Is this a tar or a make-kpkg problem? Ciao, Thomas
Re: Two X questions
On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, Miro Torrielli wrote: I'm have these two problems lately: 1) My Cirrus Logic GD5434 works fine in 8bpp mode, but produces streaks at 16bpp. Has anyone had the same problem? Is the SVGA XF86 server bugged, my video timings screwed, or my monitor to blame? Don't know, sorry. 2) Ever since I upgraded to the latest xterm-color, I can't get a colorized ls. Can anyone help?? You may have also upgraded your fileutils to 3.13 which replaces color-ls. This might help: With the integration of color-ls directly into the fileutils package, a few things have changed. dircolors no longer sets up aliases or shell scripts to colorize ls, dir, and vdir. Here is an excerpt from a .bashrc which sets up aliases after running dircolors: # set up color-ls eval `dircolors /home/syrus/.dir_colors` alias d='ls -F --color=auto' alias v='ls -l --color=auto' alias vdir='ls -l --color=auto' alias dir='ls -F --color=auto' Note that color=tty has been changed to color=auto. See the documentation for other change information. Syrus. -- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: mgetty and printing faxes
On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, Erik van der Meulen wrote: I manage to print some faxes, but the script takes ages to process. Somerhow I have a feeling that things could be optimized here. If anyone has done any experimenting in this area, I would be very interested in finding out their results. I use a hp4l and the magicfilter package. After many experiments with the netpbm package, with the same bad results you got, I finally found on sunsite a program named g3vga (/pub/Linux/apps/graphics/viewers/). It includes a very quick g32ps command: you can use it to convert your fax in a PS file, and the print it with GhostScript (maybe directly with lpr, I don't use magicfilter). /___ /_ /___manuele ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: cron
Al Youngwerth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anyone really knows how to get cron to stop pestering me, let me = know.=20 If the command has output, you will get the results mailed to you. I don't know of any way to stop that, but it's easy to arrange for the command to avoid sending results. Just make your command cmd /dev/null or the more thorough cmd /dev/null 21 which redirects stderr and stdout. See man bash for more details. -- Rob
Re: tar-1.11.11-2.deb broken?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Baetzler) writes: Anyways, downgrading to the tar of the buzz release seem to fix this for me. Is this a tar or a make-kpkg problem? As I understand it, that upstream version of tar is broken. Debian is going to revert to an earlier version until the problems are fixed. You did the right thing. -- Rob
I'm looking for a demo user ...
Hello, I just have installed debian on my system. It was wonderful. Everything worked fine until ... - I was used to have the /etc/profile for the bash and other configuration files to be more configured than they are now. I don't want to say that they are not configured at all, the system works great. I'm looking for some customisations. I thought there is althoug a demo-user to show how powerful Linux can be. (How to find a new programm, when you don't know about it :-) - How do you manage updates? I've copied the debian distribution to CD. How to perform any updates, when you cannot change the files on CD. Is it possible use a second distribution on the harddisk, where I put only the files I want to upgrade? - I was although looking for the olwm window manager. Isn't there a openwin package? For any help, Thanks Dirk
Re: Dr. Paul Vio, Paediatrics
At 11:26 AM 8/27/96 -0400, you wrote: Hello, I would like to get in touch with my cousin Dr. Paul Vio. His work was related to the University of Leiden. He is in his sixties, and may have retired. Thank you very much. Marko. Errrm - what on earth does this have to do with the Debian User mailing list? Have you got a question Linux related? ...Karl -- Karl Ferguson, Tower Networking Pty Ltd (ACN: 072 322 760)[EMAIL PROTECTED] t/a STAR Online Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +61-9-455-3446 Fax: +61-9-455-2776 http://www.star.net.au/
How to place Debian files on CD-Rom?
Hi! I want to make my own Debian CD-R. Does someone know where to place the files on the CD so that the installation can run completely of the CD? I'm looking for an installation that doesn't require the generation of disks. I want to have it like in old Slackware times ;-) 1. Boot MS-DOG 2. Select Kernel to boot through some DOS menu program that fires up loadlin 3. Kernel should read the ramdisk from the CD. 4. Basic configuration of Debian. 5. Base disks should be read from the CD. 6. ...(same as usual)... If nothing like this exists right now, I will implement this. I think something like that would be also nice for the other guys that create Debian CD's, as Infomagic, etc. Cheers, Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ! ___; [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / \\\__/ !PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34 05 14 5C C8 DC 22 BA \ / http://www.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/ -.-.,---,-,-..---,-,-.,.-.- DIE ENTE BLEIBT DRAUSSEN!
Re: cron
Hi, If anyone really knows how to get cron to stop pestering me, let me = know.=20 simply avoid that cron jobs produce output if the operate normally. Then you will only get mails if something went wrong. Thats how it is suppoed to work. Greetings Bernd
Re: /dev/psaux problems
On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Robert Resendes wrote: If I try to cat the file, though, I get the following error: cat /dev/psaux cat: /dev/psaux: No such device On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Mike Taylor wrote: I don't think cat works here because /dev/psaux is not a regular file. No, IMHO this error in this instance results from the /dev/psaux file not existing. cat'ting an existing /dev/psaux file gives you a screenful of unreadable gibberish, but it gives you SOMETHING if the file exists. David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 3503 WeH, x86720 MTFBWY
Re: cron
Miro Torrielli wrote: I would be grateful if anyone can tell me how to get cron to mail me its results daily. Thanx... :-) Hi, Miro So far as I know, there's only one kind of automatic result notification mailed from cron, and that's the output of any command (initiated via the crontab) which went to stdout or stderr. That gets collected and mailed to the owner of the crontab, but it happens whenever the cron job runs, i.e. not necessarily daily. I'd suggest you modify your jobs to aggregate their results in a log file, then use another cron job to mail them to you daily. Hope this helps, Alastair
LinuX Book
Hi guys, I finally decided to buy a book on LinuX and guess what? There are so many, I am at a loss for which one to choose (and some are pricey too). Could anyone out there point me to what is considered the 'defacto' definitive guide (Advanced!!) to LinuX Thanks Jonathan Lawson
Re: I'm looking for a demo user ...
Hi Dirk -- You asked: - I was used to have the /etc/profile for the bash and other configuration files to be more configured than they are now. You might want to look in /usr/doc/examples/bash. (How to find a new programm, when you don't know about it :-) This must qualify as a billion dollar question. - How do you manage updates? I've copied the debian distribution to CD. How to perform any updates, when you cannot change the files on CD. Is it possible use a second distribution on the harddisk, where I put only the files I want to upgrade? Sure. I use the mirror program (in the mirror package, in the net directory on the FTP sites) to download a fresh copy of the Debian distribution every once in a while, then one can update the packages from there, either directly, using dpkg -i package.deb or through dselect, setting the access method to a mounted hard disk. - I was although looking for the olwm window manager. Isn't there a openwin package? I don't see it in the Packages-Master file (kept in the indices directory at the FTP site) dated August 23. Good luck, Susan Kleinmann
Announce: New Debian FAQ
The new Debian FAQ is now at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/FAQ/ . It is also available in the current doc-debian package (doc-debian_1.0-4.deb) It is a major rewrite of the previous version. When you have a Debian-related question please try to find a corresponding answer in the FAQ first. When you encounter mistakes or want to provide comments or suggestions please send it via e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Debian FAQ is maintained by Susan G. Kleinmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Sven Rudolph ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and Joost Witteveen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . Sven -- Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WWW : http://www.sax.de/~sr1/
Re: /dev/psaux problems
David Winters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Robert Resendes wrote: | If I try to cat the file, though, I get the following error: | cat /dev/psaux | cat: /dev/psaux: No such device | |On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Mike Taylor wrote: | I don't think cat works here because /dev/psaux is not a regular file. | | No, IMHO this error in this instance results from the /dev/psaux |file not existing. cat'ting an existing /dev/psaux file gives you a |screenful of unreadable gibberish, but it gives you SOMETHING if the file |exists. You usually get this error when the device driver for this device isn't compiled into the kernel (or no loadable module for it was found?). If the file didn't exist at all then you would have recieved a No such file or directory error (otherwise, how would cat(1) know that it is supposed to be a device? :-) Try looking at your kernel's configuration and see if you have psaux there. Cheers, --Amos --Amos Shapira| Of course Australia was marked for 133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st. | glory, for its people had been chosen Jerusalem 93 805 | by the finest judges in England. ISRAEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Anonymous
mgetty basic setup
I have mgetty working on a Slackware system, so I assumed I'd have no trouble getting it working on a Debian system. Boy, was I wrong. I have no idea what I'm doing, or why nobody else seems to have trouble. I couldn't find any debian-specific instructions. 1) using dpkg --contents mgetty_099.deb, I see that various configuration files (login.config, mgetty.config, etc.) go in /etc/mgetty. However, after installing the package, that directory was empty. Why? I've removed and reinstalled the package, using both dselect and dpkg; usually /etc/mgetty is empty, once login.config mysteriously appeared. Finally I copied the files from the Slackware system. 2) What should the line in /etc/inittab be? I'm using d3:45:respawn:/sbin/mgetty ttyS2 because this is what worked with Slackware. (not exactly; the other system used com2 (d2,ttyS1), and /usr/local/sbin). Where is this d3:45 stuff documented? The reason I got it working with Slackware is that there were already sample lines commented out. (I think.) BTW, the modem is set to com3, and minicom works using /dev/ttyS2 3) Do I need the gettydefs file? I copied it from - you guessed it - the slackware system. Oh, I should mention what happens; absolutely nothing. No answer, no logs.
