Re: emacs troubles
On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Me wrote: |Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 15:34:35 -0600 |From: Me [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: Debain debian-user@lists.debian.org |Subject: emacs troubles | |I'm trying to install emacs. Why, I don't know. I can't find the |'elf-x11r6lib'. I shouldn't need Xwindows to run this do I? |Just need pointing in the right direction. emacs is an editor with text/graphic interface so u can compile emacs with out graphic-x interface or! u can just d/l the pkg xlib (./x11) and install it - emacs is not the only one app that have text/x interface , u whould have the same prob with ytalk but u can always get the src (well almoust) and compile it with out the Xlib needed. one or the other Regards borik __ Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] (finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for pgp public key)
Re: emacs troubles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Me wrote: I'm trying to install emacs. Why, I don't know. I can't find the 'elf-x11r6lib'. I shouldn't need Xwindows to run this do I? Just need pointing in the right direction. Install the package 'xlib'. - From Packages.gz: Package: xlib [...] section: x11 depends: libc5, ldso (=1.7.14-1) conflicts: elf-x11r6lib provides: xR6shlib, xlibraries, elf-x11r6lib [...] description: XFree86 3.1.2 shared libraries [...] replaces: elf-x11r6lib [...] Vad. ++_ Vadik V. (_`[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nether.net/~legolas/ Vygonets (_.lf PGP public key (ID 9FC1DED9) available from surfnet.nl User Failure: Please Insert a Bootable Brain -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia+ Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBMi3/35YtG3yfwd7ZAQF9YQP+IYhsBMuljv/aW+ooD9qU6I7Df/ma4e87 ZCu6kC979UGDvsCPXMixUnLCrDDbhRHyD0M7kENHOQ4HZMEw5BRyMk0KoDbNVuoN 7rfh2fIjKZ92jMLD4ZMHVtotM0/yhBkT82Dqw9SCuSR48Y8h1ixWgH3XOK1n7rA+ MmbjNFzZt0o= =Rdsf -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Console Setup
I get the same thing but I don't worry about it and everything seems to work.
Re: help - cant find fonts ...
On Wed, 4 Sep 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 12:17:57 -0700 |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: debian-user@lists.debian.org |Subject: help - cant find fonts ... | | Hello all ... | | Can someone please help me resolve some (or all) of these missing | fonts? | | I get the following messages after running xinit, and then starting | | fvwm and fvwm2 reports: | can't get font -adobe-times-bold-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | can't get font -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | can't get font -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | | gwm - reports: | Cannot find font *-helvetica-bold-o-normal--18-* | Cannot find font *-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-* | Cannot find font *-times-bold-r-normal--18-* | Cannot find font *-symbol-medium-r-normal--14-* | | Later - if I decide to start netscape, I get : | Warning: Cannot convert string | -*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct | Warning: Cannot convert string | -*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct | Warning: Cannot convert string | -*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct | Warning: Cannot convert string | -*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct | Warning: Cannot convert string | -*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct | Warning: Cannot convert string | -*-helvetica-medium-o-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct | | Thanx in advance. | 1)didn't install all the xfnt pkgs prob forgot the xfnt100 and xfnt70 this pkg are in ./x11 dir 2)maybe u did install them but exclude them from /etc/X11/XF86Config , look at the beginning of the file --- one or the other Good Luck Regards borik __ Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] (finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for pgp public key)
Pine other non-free packages
: BTW, should I go hunting for a Pine debian package or just go and compile : it myself? I couldn't find it on my cdrom with Debian 1.1.4... :/ : Is it a licensing problem or finding a maintainer problem? Its a licensing problem. The debian packages are in the non-free section on ftp.debian.org or ftp.fuller.edu. You might want to download the complete section since those packets cannot be put on a CD.
Re: How to migrate a Debian system to another hard drive?
Nono no no... please don't rely on such features of GNU software. This will NOT work with a generic cp on other systems. Please use either a piped tar or a cpio,afio or whatever else. The cp method mentioned above is definitely not the way to solve such general unix administration tasks. I don't agree with the above (if you have a choice). In the Unix-haters guide, they raised some good points, but most of them had be addressed by free software. On my sun, the only thing its software is good for is bootstrapping other packages (I rarely use sun cc -- I don't even know what the sun debugger is called anymore (dbx?) Doing cp -a -x / mnt is the way I prefer to move /. A piped tar method is good for understand how it works academically, but I'd rather not type it in . Any since this is debian-users not unix-questions, GNU cp is one of the bests ways, but not portable. -- marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of the League for Programming Freedom
Dosemu
Has anyone succeeded in getting the latest versions of Dosemu to work? I can successfully compile, but can't insmod emumodule. Insmod dumps fifteen or so lines saying: x undefined ... Loading failed! The module symbols (from linux-2.0.7) don't match your linux-2.0.7 What's going on?? Seems as if there are some system modules ( I use a very modularized kernel ) which are not loaded. However, I use kerneld, so all neccessary mods should be there. Someone please help!! Thanx... :-)
emacs troubles
I'm trying to install emacs. Why, I don't know. I can't find the 'elf-x11r6lib'. I shouldn't need Xwindows to run this do I? Just need pointing in the right direction. Thanks.
Re: Problem unpackagin Debian-1.1.4
[installation of gcc fails due to binutils dependency that dselect should have taken care of] I had this happen to me with two system installations I was running of 1.1.4 (from a CD I wrote a few weeks ago). Has anyone seen this on a later system than 1.1.4? Thanks Bruce
Re: Cross posting per request
On Wed, 04 Sep 1996 11:04:06 CDT David Engel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Bruce Perens writes: It's unfortunate that the printer config stuff (and other stuff from Red Hat) is written in TCL/TK. One thing we _don't_ assume is that the user has X (or even a VGA card - it might be a serial console). A shell/dialog solution would be much better. There is a curses-based version of Tk, but I don't have any idea of how well it works. Do you know where we could find this thing ? Might be interesting... Phil.
Re: WABI
I knew I was keeping this around for a reason... Subject: Wabi on Linux : : Info on Wabi for Linux: : : - : The Caldera Solutions CD : : Wabi will ship on the Caldera Solutions CD, which will be included : with every shipment of the Caldera Network Desktop. The : CD-ROM contains mainstream applications, including WordPerfect, : CorelDRAW and Delrina Forms Flow Filler, ported to Caldera's : Linux platform by both Caldera and its Independent Vendor Partners. : Customers can easily purchase and unlock these products, including : Wabi, directly from the CD-ROM using GLOBEtrotter's FLEXlm : license manager software. By placing their products on the Caldera : Solutions CD, Caldera's third-party development partners can offer : products on the industry's first commodity-priced UNIX-based : platform. These applications will ship on a single CD-ROM, from : which System Integrators, VARs and consultants can purchase and : install from the CD-ROM the combination of software that meets : the unique needs of each customer. : : Availability and Pricing : : Caldera plans to ship Wabi on the Caldera Solutions CD during the : next quarter. Wabi on the Caldera Solutions CD will sell for less : than $200. : : - : : Q: When will Windows 95 applications be supported in Wabi? : : A: A certified list of Windows 95 applications (including MS Office :95, SmartSuite 96, plus currently supported 16 bit applications :will be supported in Q1 (CY97) in Wabi 3.0. : :This is the current plan, subject to change. -- Christopher R. Hertel -)- University of Minnesota [EMAIL PROTECTED] Networking and Telecommunications Services
RE: fvwm-95 - Making progress, but not there yet
On 15:51:24 Jim Worthington wrote: It's complaining about a missing rplay library Where can this package be found? Don't know, and didn't see this when brought up fvwm95. I tried running fvwm95 but it crashed on startup producing no messages. Is it likely that the missing rplay library is the cause? I don't have sound either, and didn't see this. My first attempt did bring up fvwm95, but with no taskbar, no icons, only an empty xterm. I had to edit the file locations (I used the example.fvwm95) for the module path, icon path and pixmap or bitmap, whatever. Then it worked fine. Using it right now in fact. Paul
Re: Cross posting per request
On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Philippe Troin wrote: On Wed, 04 Sep 1996 11:04:06 CDT David Engel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There is a curses-based version of Tk, but I don't have any idea of how well it works. Do you know where we could find this thing ? Might be interesting... It's at ftp.neosoft.com:/languages/tcl/alcatel/potpourri/ctk-4.0.tar.gz. I already took a look at it and, although it works, it's barely usable, IMO. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081
Re: WABI
On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Jim Worthington wrote: I stumbled across a newsgroup called linux.dev.wabi. I didn't see any mention of wine, but I did get the impression that Sun wabi software was being recompiled for Linux. At the time I thought that it was strange that Sun would release their source code but perhaps they were looking for beta testers. It was late, I'm not really sure what I saw, but I thought that there were pointers to a Sun site, presumably to get the source code. FWIW, I believe that WABI will be available for purchase from Caldera in conjunction with their Network Desktop which runs on top of Red Hat Linux. WABI will not come with source code as it will not be free. It probably can run on Debian Linux, but Caldera will not support it on anything other than their system. Caldera has some documentation regarding WABI for Linux on their web page. Syrus. -- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: WABI
borik the Boris Yati Beletsky wrote: On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Brian C. White wrote: |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: WABI | | What is the present status of WABI for Linux? | |I've built wine package for debian and update it occasionally. i am sorry just interested , where can i get this pkg? thks for u're time borik I stumbled across a newsgroup called linux.dev.wabi. I didn't see any mention of wine, but I did get the impression that Sun wabi software was being recompiled for Linux. At the time I thought that it was strange that Sun would release their source code but perhaps they were looking for beta testers. It was late, I'm not really sure what I saw, but I thought that there were pointers to a Sun site, presumably to get the source code. Jim It was my impression that wine and WABI are two separate things. I believe Caldera has licensed Sun's WABI and it is available for their distribution. I don't think that you can use it with any other distributions. Cheers, - another Jim (oops, forgot to reply to the mailing list in my first attempt, sorry)
X11 fonts missing from distribution?
I've installed X11, but I find that I cannot run applications that need courier and helvetica fonts. I've looked in the X11 and Debian faqs and readmes, but I haven't been able to find any info on where to get fonts and how to install them. Can anyone help me out? Regards, Mike -- Michael A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nuclear Physics Lab, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key at URL:http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/miller5
Re: Problem unpackagin Debian-1.1.4
Hello, I had this happen to me with two system installations I was running of 1.1.4 (from a CD I wrote a few weeks ago). Has anyone seen this on a later system than 1.1.4? I have seen this a few times with 1.1.0-2. My question if it is possible was answered with no :) Oh Well, glad the Problem is finally recognized. Greetings Bernd
Re: Problem unpackagin Debian-1.1.4
In your email to me, Bruce Perens, you wrote: [installation of gcc fails due to binutils dependency that dselect should have taken care of] I had this happen to me with two system installations I was running of 1.1.4 (from a CD I wrote a few weeks ago). Has anyone seen this on a later system than 1.1.4? I saw this on a 1.1.5 Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Camp food always tastes better in the dark! ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.**
Re: WABI
Just to get this settled, Caldera has licesned the wabi source code from SUN, and they are porting it over to linux. It most likely will cost money, because Sun doesn't just give away the source code. If you want more information on it, I would suggest you look at Caldera's web page http://www.caldera.com Hope this helps, Shaya -- Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Jim Worthington wrote: borik the Boris Yati Beletsky wrote: On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Brian C. White wrote: |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: WABI | | What is the present status of WABI for Linux? | |I've built wine package for debian and update it occasionally. i am sorry just interested , where can i get this pkg? thks for u're time borik I stumbled across a newsgroup called linux.dev.wabi. I didn't see any mention of wine, but I did get the impression that Sun wabi software was being recompiled for Linux. At the time I thought that it was strange that Sun would release their source code but perhaps they were looking for beta testers. It was late, I'm not really sure what I saw, but I thought that there were pointers to a Sun site, presumably to get the source code. Jim
smail problem
I have some computers that don't have IP addresses, and am using IP
masqerading to connect them to the internet. I want to set up smail so all
outgoing mail from these computers looks likes it came from
kite.preferred.com, so people can reply to it. I set up a
/etc/smail/routers like this:
smart_host:
driver=smarthost, transport=smtp;
path=kite.preferred.com
But that doesn't seem to do the job.. I don't know much about smail
configuration. I had this working in sendmail at one point, but I'd prefer
to use smail. How can I get it to work?
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Re: How to migrate a Debian system to another hard drive?
and note that unlike tar, cp -a will actually *handle* pathnames over 100 characters (of course, dpkg won't have installed any, but they may be around for other reasons...) I used the tar approach for years, but cp -a turns out to be much more reliable (and I can fall back to tar if I have to -- knowing that I have to keep an eye on it as well and diff the trees later...)
Re: Cross posting per request
Greg Hudson writes: - In addition, the admin's life would only be made easier. - - Let's see where is perl stuffof course: /usr/perl - - Of course it looks easier if you only ask one question. - - Where are the operating system binaries that should go in users' - paths? - - Where are the standard C++ libraries? Where is the termcap library? - [ Rest of Greg's excellent explanation deleted ] I couldn't have said it better myself. :) This is the most compelling argument for the status quo. With the suggested changes, mapping a program to it's associated files gets slightly easier, but mapping a type of file or specific file to it's location in the filesystem gets much harder. It's probably one of the reasons why /opt hasn't caught on too well with 3rd party platforms. (Well, that and support for multiple platforms :) -Larry -- Larry Daffner| Linux: Unleash the workstation in your PC! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://web2.airmail.net/vizzie/ Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
Re: emacs troubles
yes, just install the xlib package -- it's small, just enough shared libraries to let the program run. It won't actually *use* the X code if you don't have $DISPLAY set, and it is in the end cleaner than having seperate packages for X and non-X versions...
Re: Cross posting per request
Larry, They intend to implement /opt as a major mount point. They also plan to make /usr/local a very dangerous place to play. :) I hope that Debian will make a policy of staying out of /usr/local. This is way it is shaping up for each application: Beside the binary in /usr/bin or /bin. There will be a /usr/libexec subdirectory for each application. There will be a /usr/share subdirectory for each application. They specify the contents of this directory to be architecture independent data. /var is in a serious state of flux and I think that this will go to pot like /usr/lib is now. About half of it is currently local and half currently non-local. They seem to be refusing to fix ridiculous things like /usr/games and putting /dev/MAKEDEV where it belongs in /sbin. Well actually the FHS people are pretty set on this Greg Hudson writes: - In addition, the admin's life would only be made easier. - - Let's see where is perl stuffof course: /usr/perl - - Of course it looks easier if you only ask one question. - - Where are the operating system binaries that should go in users' - paths? - - Where are the standard C++ libraries? Where is the termcap library? - [ Rest of Greg's excellent explanation deleted ] I couldn't have said it better myself. :) This is the most compelling argument for the status quo. With the suggested changes, mapping a program to it's associated files gets slightly easier, but mapping a type of file or specific file to it's location in the filesystem gets much harder. It's probably one of the reasons why /opt hasn't caught on too well with 3rd party platforms. (Well, that and support for multiple platforms :) -Larry -- Larry Daffner| Linux: Unleash the workstation in your PC! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://web2.airmail.net/vizzie/ Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
Re: Comments about FHS -and- Re: Cross posting per request
Folks, [This should spark a debate :)] What is the fine line between a library such as libc.so.5, libm.so.5 or libcurses.a and just a compiled object file? --Glenn
Re: emacs troubles
emacs is an editor with text/graphic interface so u can compile emacs with out graphic-x interface Generally, if there is an option to compile a program with an X interface as well as its text interface, we do so for Debian. This requires _only_ that the (reasonably small) X runtime library be installed if you don't plan to use X on that system - no servers or X applications are required. The alternative was maintaining X and non-X versions of a dozen programs, which was a hassle and error-prone. I'm sorry that we caused confusion in this case. I think if you had used dselect instead of dpkg it would have told you what package provided elf-x11r6lib when you selected emacs. This assumes that you had a complete copy of the Packages file from our FTP archive. Thanks Bruce
Re: How to migrate a Debian system to another hard drive?
From: Mark Eichin [EMAIL PROTECTED] and note that unlike tar, cp -a will actually *handle* pathnames over 100 characters Well, we've beaten this dead horse for long enough. I think GNU tar will handle over-100-character filenames. There is an extension to the tar format to handle them. However, my tar-in-a-function that I wrote for dpkg does not have that extension, which is why dpkg won't handle it. Thanks Bruce
stuff Glenn wants to clean up, and how to do it
From: Glenn Bily [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is the fine line between a library such as libc.so.5, libm.so.5 or libcurses.a and just a compiled object file? If I had my druthers I'd clean lots of stuff like that up. The task is a lot more complicated than that, because you are working with other people. You need to: + Figure out how to get from point A to point B in gentle steps that don't break _everything_. Otherwise lots of people will dig in their heels on this sort of change. + Cultivate patience. You can't get stuff like this done without the patience to watch it happening for years. + Establish your own credibility with the people who help make the decisions (like the FHS group) by presenting intelligent dialogue on other topics for months. Once you've done that, it's easier to get them to listen to argument on your own pet projects. + Lead only where the others will follow. + Detach yourself emotionally from the issue. I can't overstress this. I'd be a hopeless basket case if I let myself get emotional over decisions made for Debian. Just ask the developers what it was like when I last got that way. You can achieve the goal of getting things organized in a more sensible manner. You can not achieve it tomorrow, unless you go off and make your own system (which I would not advise because of the leading where people will follow thing). Thanks Bruce
Re: Comments about FHS -and- Re: Cross posting per request
Glenn Bily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Folks, [This should spark a debate :)] What is the fine line between a library such as libc.so.5, libm.so.5 or libcurses.a and just a compiled object file? Please do not try to spark debate (troll) on the FHS discussion mailing list. I do not appreciate it and I doubt that anyone else does either. You have already clearly demonstrated that you have not read the entire FHS draft and that you have some serious technical gaps in your understanding of Linux. I appreciate your desire to get involved, but I think you need to become more acquainted with the issues at hand before make a fool of yourself. I would appreciate it if members of the Debian User's mailing list would not Cc messages to the FHS mailing list (formerly FSSTND). Thank you. Dan
Compile error
I have linux 2.0.6 running. I installed it from the kernel image I got fro ftp.debian.org using dselect. Since it was configured for a different hardware setup than mine I decided to reconfigure. I got a new kernel source 2.0.13 and unpacked it in /usr/src/linux. I also picked up make-kpkg 2.0.3. I ran make config and satisfied my hardware setup. Then ran: make-kpkg -r Custom.1 kernel_image. 40 mins later I get this: as86 -0 -a -o bootsect.o bootsect.s make[3] as86: command not found. make[3] [bootsect.o] Error 127 make[2] *** [boot] Error 2 make[1] *** [build] Error 2 make: *** [stamp-image] Error 2 as not as86 is in my /usr/sbin. I have not been able to locate as86 Any ideas what am doing wrong? BTW I noticed a new vmlinux that is twice as large as my vmlinuz, so am guessing as86 has something to do with compressing vmlinux. Chuma
Re: latex: can't find default format file
Philippe == Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Philippe If you use latex, you'll probably have problems with Philippe font later, and try to download mfbasfnt_1.0-5 from the Philippe rex/binary/tex section and mfdcfnt_1.0-1_all.deb from Philippe the non-free/binary section. I am confused. I saw at least 2 times that mfdcfnt is in non-free but I cannot seem to find it. There was a previous posting as well that someone else couldn't find it. Nathan
Re: How to migrate a Debian system to another hard drive?
Mark Eichin: and note that unlike tar, cp -a will actually *handle* pathnames over 100 characters GNU tar does that as well. -- Please read http://www.iki.fi/liw/mail-to-lasu.html before mailing me. Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list. pgp3uzEpYi8ov.pgp Description: PGP signature
Problems with Base Install Disks.
I tried to install the latest dest' of debian 1.1.8 . But there is a problem with the last Base disk . base14-3.bin So how do a make those disks by my self ? there if a tar file containing all the files that shuld be in these disks : base1_1.tgz The Disks are in ../buzz-updates/disks-i386/1996_7_14/ == Rosenberg Yigal. System Administrator. Tel: +(972)-3 5319367 Fax: +(972)-3 5313311 ==
Where can I find lucid Emacs
Hello Where can I find Lucid Emacs? Is it Xemacs? if it is where can i find it for linux? miguel
Re: Compile error
as86 -0 -a -o bootsect.o bootsect.s make[3] as86: command not found. Any ideas what am doing wrong? Nothing. You just don't have a package installed that is required to build the kernel: bin86 (29 Kb) Section: devel Version: 0.3-1 Last modified: Fri Apr 26 10:47:00 1996 Architecture: i386 Maintainer: Joost Witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: Assembler and loader for kernel compilation. Depends: libc5 BTW I noticed a new vmlinux that is twice as large as my vmlinuz, so am guessing as86 has something to do with compressing vmlinux. I'm not really sure. It is needed to build the 16-bit start-code for the kernel. After this code is executed, the compressed kernel image is decompressed. Hope this helps, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: popclient, procmail, and elm
I had this problem when I first setup procmail with elm popclient. I deleted the offending folder and let procmail/elm recreate the folder. Since then I haven't had the problem. If this doesn't fix your problem, let me know and I'll send you copies of my setup. I seem to be having problems with using popclient, procmail and elm together. I've set up popclient and procmail correctly, filtering messages well. Elm can read folders produced locally by cron, etc.. However, folders created by popclient + procmail cannot be read by elm. I get folder corrupt, and upon further investigation, the message's initial form line is missing! -- Thomas R Behrndt[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where can I find lucid Emacs
On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Miguel A. Avillez wrote: |Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 09:24:23 + (GMT) |From: Miguel A. Avillez [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: debian-user@lists.debian.org |Subject: Where can I find lucid Emacs | | |Hello | |Where can I find Lucid Emacs? Is it Xemacs? if it is where can i find it |for linux? | |miguel sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/apps/editors/emacs/xemacs/ sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/apps/editors/emacs/lemacs-19.10/ Enjoy borik (we don't need emacs'itor we don't need vi'tor - we need EDitor) __ Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] (finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for pgp public key)
Ash script, tutorials, etc
Bruce, Sorry I'm sending this to the list, but I'm having a _lot_ of trouble connecting to work and I have to get this out before I leave. I don't have the other addresses available from here. Included is a uuencoded gziped tar file that includes the script and some tutorials/help files. I hope its enough to get something going. I'm off to Japan, so I'll check in when I get there. I've added a few things, cleaned up a few things, but it still needs work. Thanks Richard G. Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin 644 dacufiles.tar.gz M'XL(`#?(+C(``^P\_7/;MI+]-?PK4$97QZTE2[:3O#AU,FF2OGJF37QU.KUW M3Z\.1$(2GR62)4'+FM3_^^T'`((4Y3CM]XZVXGDL`%=K%8[+4RZCZ[$_^ MPV'CQ\^%)\)3A\_`A?1X\?#O$5_XY#X^.A'AT,#J$-\.#A_!X/3XX6=B M^3AG]5J64AQ=%$LV+6^`^]OPO^G?_\_U)DN[+A[#^[?ZYWQR(F=B[ M$J/!$S%Z\N11?_BD/WPHAG\[/AP=#Q_WATF%7^?F70\F!Z5/[EMAIL PROTECTED]'X+[ M([EMAIL PROTECTED]3+60:2SBI,P7BVTNH:!*,J*.$EGBS7/23.]YT!@ [EMAIL PROTECTED](JC8,@DJ4B)FP\U6ZL\M(`A:IO$A2/17A?Y3C M=)R(NR-0O/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@W[Y6Y[O3:$*F44W+L)@EQ6I3(,F:%B-6DFLU@ M\09T4]%F!J+(%^K0JA,Q%EJ4[22HG!8!`A9*Q^'57M)J6+7*M0RNU+` MLF6%;)8BVFR46Q4UTGVG()Q%A7IBF,*4W@CQ(C5\SF59`O`(2\J2]$[ [EMAIL PROTECTED]C4L=9I8/@GZ(/AP=OQ;_$%U^(7JP6]/%+\T1GN4ZRM/0?VS$' M$\VE1BH;0':0N!'V#L*`R.^-:+]`SD69PRF;70,O88MPO#F0,LFND9?*P7; M!Q`AP7Q,5AF5J*6AN$/1BH!96AX/[EMAIL PROTECTED]*`[EMAIL PROTECTED] M.8!_#_]V-!SNAF(B'\U_M0YO%%J8_[',C#I[UB#\T^^1]+XI`G'HO2,_ M5E^\:*09(MDE(W:!=Q,/,)%(MZNOIX]S52B\3^NLLMN06LMHKN+G(5![ M-!0/@?)P'U;:UWI]/@0QC;([EMAIL PROTECTED]/N!1T/:4#:=WC2`1PQ\T`0,7#: [EMAIL PROTECTED],'R\`'W2L?,O11_JPAK9\A=$F5P-#[PF`!88^_[`W]HWP/?F8]T M%92XDD4B)WA5'F2I`'X#TZ`%,D5G/^TR)9X`:[EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED],, M)2G=__AB!^..A\\,.#SH'_/#0/71J!5)1MI(DI[#J:/:``F.R^6*JV M\)`DX=U5Q6A@@65BA1Q[2\5`-4JQHP]1-(_$:@[:N6H0H4`9X*KT-8G MBRRZQ)$X8^PM8=2)ANL_B`!Y`@`(EO#([EMAIL PROTECTED]_U$6OE.+'*0` M7\1Y-3SX%+8#X\P)=D5H%\GYV=T8-S:[EMAIL PROTECTED];Z(Z6KG$9?92F.?IND20EB M3V.OXT2'2%5:[EMAIL PROTECTED];U\I-.%HE[EMAIL PROTECTED];UW.U%W0!HCO75NG M#32W#@:@:_M__8;/]=I;,B*'71YCR=OY%4RDV`9C3ZEK4H/`!.F+5* M9A6H3F05O(@YS87!;V1T3:.QYQWKE'%Q8M*B0([EMAIL PROTECTED](/,]CBQK% M`63*?L)[`F;[EMAIL PROTECTED]FJ2$H8/N3-8CV5%8+/6A)4:ER6#=[`-1 MJ-?[_9J`DVJ8@X0-$$:APFC9L'[EMAIL PROTECTED])M.[P8IL-P51._(Q[,L% ML#R$P-ZP5!5HH*#\8;*,L\*H`S%S'P4#QJ)=L$J%5KY2[+G)24J'-$ M[GU(,[EMAIL PROTECTED])PNLA4Y!46VP'D%/[EMAIL PROTECTED]X$L=3P!L=U MEE[#X`OLZGP$%(#$QC'GH,5U\XYL#D+GY54#LB\CCYIIHA8QK+XD1X=. MHO=ABI^;DR9EC(/S_.7[7G33;GR:4W19;K-%K*G/.;UI'@^81P;-T1Z/* MO+1'H1N+DC4%.)1CMJP^=VC$7QCT)%[B,)D!OY5X*8LB`2W\2FD06YRQB)J [EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]'6ARB8+8L,-\KU9,[EMAIL PROTECTED])%HTJ2KA M;L/@ZN%=!+=GF:12Y[F1=G?7]95!Y/X9-([EMAIL PROTECTED]@##6.=/;2W MGI[Z/4875L#[:6]PX4``H)_BOS0N4B'/,]=LC?BW\]!06!IIHO,AC10U* MY0V`2S!-RFH;^,=4/W2NKT=*-UM]K!Z8Q9Q_Q,[EMAIL PROTECTED] M+ENNM4@'2J-5/'1NQ.WT[KC_5N1.276V-T0J.T[H#/J`N;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:? MKP;OPE[EMAIL PROTECTED],-H!QTX9WU.1-T(K,;U4-1##HE1PG?Y!1V%[K))KK) M)CJYO-N[EMAIL PROTECTED]'?C4.O?\:[EMAIL PROTECTED],-9PL[B`,QL)T(;+F MQ4-4#UE$9'[EMAIL PROTECTED];)4\-';`2;@Q+W2[MH4=8DWFR9?ONV(.Z=/P#;N MWX[.V+[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;Q3MNSIK1S=VQ!_=W9$;[M*)WV1C9WBW3D:W*QFB-@ M1P\.^T62^Y$B.#$8):Y5F69BE[EMAIL PROTECTED]D']#7SU643#'O=GHFP]!O^N!*BDY MY'Q^!,2``+S^TVD]/9IG!N6FV5RQ'A0*8P[EMAIL PROTECTED]@7,7$'D1%8@)ABZT [EMAIL PROTECTED](P!Q-0$GXL%`DZKE$+7W6YN*,]H:Y55$46C#EA-A*W5+PLB MRY)V[EMAIL PROTECTED](2:`XK+*Q#N==@)N\,,R[`F=FFD3D4^V),@-D MLXJRN`)EA0+Y1FH_PF2XC$Q-LP%9F+;BZ2C%E-P^=VF,3'%Y[S7DGI,KG MX@'=\F/,FJUQ'0.'@-Q.O8/L3V.8$DP4FP67A*[EMAIL PROTECTED],?#EQ3H5 MO_TF^,RVYLU4]Z,'`2\B`9P,8:5(0F99:P3[JS4^=U3L\V(U4VV6A*U]R MK0#\'AF[_U!5LP4(!)S;F\R3#U\N^2T*G)%(S)P3Z52,R:@L,!'F+ M^J*(I\E4_%#UM64T\N?.MC1Z630MH\_+\J$JT5W+R*)E$%A16:2MRBF M/50M.-R#E=QT94EDLHKTY+JV2(70GT7T`)T\UK[#$8$L53%#-#1=:AS MO0M08L46*:687;?.X#E'2LG5!(1I!C=2D:B:0/)`'I29.$LIA/N`/ M:PE!IDL;-(A'E-J`B_@(D-:6)[EMAIL PROTECTED]'D(`\L7XMPB3%_QZ$]'[P.8 MO7AP?N`Q[_^^O7;;\6S9QZ[:4T\9J/)Q,`C+L?LM)S_WXD)49UR3)?J5F MLV,0R(W\2DMQX!H`:W35X^E'YX?]X`;%%5:FS)::2A\A2A/JLV:B$?-/ M$-2M4E1C;3U6;I05QDE;E8R=7DF2F33,H3=+O!D)3\`Z!1F\49IWU8#=?W M5,6)MH+.69\_)[EMAIL PROTECTED](MQXL=YG+2!VS;!PTSP]YAX1,`6=R3WJ$.8 M[EMAIL PROTECTED]8EF8!T-I)CDXHDT6Y^HCT0/^G`'`URU+.%-FV!#,414I'\N@ MNN)`B^CWU^6,]JJ0*:[EMAIL PROTECTED]941Y!A*?)GK-O(#PN5\0LF1(5KW M'$`2Q4W)FM[+#%M'L!ZB:U)[).L.$!/5FO@U6V?\52!6R2AJA`?YNS MY%K2![A1-X-H9M:$M%6CUHHRXW33`W#'`]4'SY*A9]]2L@,)6I[?PZ6RA, MC-)+(1([=G/KY!PS$XF?#AF7Q($^U*E#$E!?AXY=6,15@;(*7NRL@`( MX)WQ`(8QE,E+4QG(%:3GFA-VB97-[CVZE86A17E5K`-:4[HA0X*TI' MK#+Z_0CP%IM9;LSH$8\P;3'IKCBESL(4^G[P3BU5Q?=,[EMAIL PROTECTED] MRW*CECJMYL%%6*14MRT,:IEA,$).0-JJ($V8KV.^#O/6-;;7$(YU MU7C%AQA;4-OGHMM@+S9/*_A543H4#HVHL%V[EMAIL PROTECTED]W3 MP[J@[O#:K!Q)0:V;(VU/`]L`RP*USMP=24`2D.U15FW-2N8?0%^./FB:W M[0B#RC5S14$#.?H:ZH!)RC0%++;NBL\`;9?G:^Q93]SN^N]9HX;[;G2 MKS^K?;-Y5CW:@W\N-F9Y_HJ91G;7P8MW22R\M83MH5DT+)RWH0*TB[PE/J M]2.L*V2M`R-M-C4JI68S8X`Y(D/WSPW/RHBQ'K3;U$!8K=KUM.F6$0R M*^Q?-RQ*,)R%UC407!B;18/N`-84-63Q;Q[(LXA';3=F[EMAIL PROTECTED] M3\JV#;H!ET,_N6N0H:1\4*P;_IY(GR;[EMAIL PROTECTED])1!
Re: Where can I find lucid Emacs
On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Miguel A. Avillez wrote: Hello Where can I find Lucid Emacs? Is it Xemacs? if it is where can i find it for linux? I'm not sure where Lucid emacs fits in the group. Xemacs is available at sunsite in the apps path. You can download it from there, or you could buy the companion CD that I sell. It contains the August snapshots of the GNU archive and the sunsite/apps path. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask --
Re: stuff Glenn wants to clean up, and how to do it
Glenn, In addition to Bruce's good advice for working with people, I'll add + Understand that people may have different goals than you, and that their goals may be just as valid as what you have on your agenda. This is part of why it's good to participate in a group for a long time before trying barge in with suggestions which you *know* must be better than what we've spent years working on. You may come to understand that in fact this is a very tightly constrained problem, where issues like backwards compatibility, compatibility with other Unix systems, technical requirements of system administrators, and aesthetic cleanliness of the design all compete to come to a compromise solution. Flip suggestions like Let's break it :) betray a lack of understanding of the many concerns that drive this process. It says, I don't think your concerns are important and that's not a way to win friends and influence people. - Ted
Can't route to ethernet
Dear all, I'm trying to install Debian-1.1 via NFS, but I've got some serious trouble with the ethernet connection. I'm using a WD8003 (selected the module 'wd' during base installation), which seems to be found correctly. 'ifconfig eth0' prints out the correct data. Now the trouble begins: A ping 160.45.172.136 (my own address) works perfectly, but no other address gives a response to ping. After /etc/init.d/network did a route add -net 160.45.172.0 netmask \ 255.255.255.0 eth0 and route add default gw 160.45.172.129 metric 0 eth0 (I had to modify these commands manually), a simple route displays: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface localnet* 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 2 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 1 lo default 160.45.172.129 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 A strange thing is, that the command runs about one minute before it displays the last line. There is a WfW-PC on the same line (BNC), but even if I ping this address, there is no response. The connector has LEDs for diagnostic purposes. If I ping myself, there is no activity. If I ping any other address, no activity is reported. And the best: if I ping 160.45.172.127 (the broadcast address), it works perfectly and activity is reported! What could be the reason for such a strange behaviour? And one remarkably fact I have: from time to time (maybe all 60-120 seconds), the send-LED is lit for a short moment. Why? There are the following processes running: init, kflushd, kswappd, update, syslogd, klogd, kerneld, inetd, bashes, getties. Hope anyone can help me. Rene Lord, help me to keep my big mouth shut until I know what I am talking about... ____ _ __ _ | _ \___ _ _ _// |_ _|__ __| |_ (_)_ _| |___ _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | / -_) ' \/ -_) | |(_-/ _| ' \| | '_| / -_) || |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |_|_\___|_||_\___| |_|/__/\__|_||_|_|_| |_\___|\_, | [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW : http://fred.ukbf.fu-berlin.de/~gremlin |__/ Uni-Klinikum Benjamin Franklin, Abteilung Medizinische Statistik und Informatik
netscape 3.0 has a bug
This is not unique to Debian, but I would like to confirm in this forum before posting to Netscape corporate. I have verified a bug in Netscape 3.0, 3.0gold, and a few betas released before 3.0 (don't know specifically). The bug is: in printing the screen either to a postscript file or directly to a postscript printer, the resulting file (or print stream) in in error, i.e., cannot be viewed. I corrected my problem by reinstalling v 2.02, and the printer output is corrected. Further, gs can view the resulting files. I don't know whether the problem is unique to Linux and / or Debian. Can anyone else in the Debian / Linux community confirm this bug before I post it to Netscape? -- /--\ | James D. Freels, P.E._i, Ph.D. | Phone: (423)576-8645 | | L | | Oak Ridge National Laboratory | FAX:(423)574-9172 | H | I | | Research Reactors Division | Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | F | N | | P. O. Box 2008 | Reactor Technology | I | U | | Oak Ridge, Tennessee 37831-6392 | world's best neutrons! | R | X | |--| | out the 10Base-T, through the router, down the T1, over the | | leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall...nothing but Net | \--/
Calling all seesat5 users!
If you are using seesat5, you will be interested to note that I have acquired a VERY complete master.tle from a close associate of mine. This tle file contains amature elements for many of the non-public satellites. (read secret) These elements have been constructed by the many world wide amature satellite observers, and some of them are quite interesting. The one that has caught my eye is called TiPS. This is a pair of satellites coupled together by a tether. It is in fairly high orbit, so the elements will be stable (correct) for quite some time. As a high orbit satellite it is a binocular object, but well worth the trouble to see. If you have any interest in these elements, please contact me by private e-mail and I will ship them to you. If you haven't tried seesat5 yet, and are interested in satellite observation, take a look at this package. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask --
Latex documentation for beginners?
I relatively new to Linux and totally new to TeX and LateX. I downloaded Debian 1.1 and enough of the TeX an LateX-files to get LateX running on my computer. My problem is that the documentation supposes a fair degree of knowledge of the philosophy behind TeX and LateX. As a tradisional Wordperfect user in a Dos-environment, I do not know where to start, how to create and view a document, how to print and I do not find anything in the Info-manual that could explain it to me except the reference to two books I should read about Latex. The documentation explains a of commands, but there is no introduction to Latex. Is there any introduction to LateX available somewhere? I do not want to buy a book (and they are quite expensive here) before knowing enough to decide whether I want to use the product seriously. Johann Spies
Re: emacs troubles
On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: |Date: Wed, 4 Sep 96 22:14 PDT |From: Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: Me [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Cc: Debain debian-user@lists.debian.org |Subject: Re: emacs troubles | | emacs is an editor with text/graphic interface | so u can compile emacs with out graphic-x interface | |Generally, if there is an option to compile a program with an X interface |as well as its text interface, we do so for Debian. This requires _only_ |that the (reasonably small) X runtime library be installed if you don't |plan to use X on that system - no servers or X applications are required. i mean thas u can 1) install the shared libs 2) compile emacs without usin' xshared libs thks u __ Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] (finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for pgp public key)
Re: Latex documentation for beginners?
Hi you can find some manuals in the /usr/lib/texmf/texmf/doc/latex/general there is a manual called guide.dvi anyway you could look for the latexcook book in starlink home page. http://star-www.rl.ac.uk if you want I can send you several manuals. cheers miguel On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Johann Spies wrote: I relatively new to Linux and totally new to TeX and LateX. I downloaded Debian 1.1 and enough of the TeX an LateX-files to get LateX running on my computer. My problem is that the documentation supposes a fair degree of knowledge of the philosophy behind TeX and LateX. As a tradisional Wordperfect user in a Dos-environment, I do not know where to start, how to create and view a document, how to print and I do not find anything in the Info-manual that could explain it to me except the reference to two books I should read about Latex. The documentation explains a of commands, but there is no introduction to Latex. Is there any introduction to LateX available somewhere? I do not want to buy a book (and they are quite expensive here) before knowing enough to decide whether I want to use the product seriously. Johann Spies
Re: Compile error
J.H.M.Dassen wrote: as86 -0 -a -o bootsect.o bootsect.s make[3] as86: command not found. Any ideas what am doing wrong? Nothing. You just don't have a package installed that is required to build the kernel: bin86 (29 Kb) Section: devel Version: 0.3-1 Last modified: Fri Apr 26 10:47:00 1996 Architecture: i386 Maintainer: Joost Witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: Assembler and loader for kernel compilation. Depends: libc5 BTW I noticed a new vmlinux that is twice as large as my vmlinuz, so am guessing as86 has something to do with compressing vmlinux. I'm not really sure. It is needed to build the 16-bit start-code for the kernel. After this code is executed, the compressed kernel image is decompressed. Hope this helps, Ray --Thanks. Also to Thomas Freina for your responses. I got bin86 and intalled it. First time the compile failed again. I then deleted the whole source tree and started afresh. This time it worked and generated kernel-image_2.0.13_Custom.1_i386.deb, which I then installed with dpkg. However, when I told it to make a boot floppy, I got this: ioctl(FDGETPRM): No such device. Anyway I liloed and booted the new kernel. Now my sound doesn't work in windows 95 anymore. Scratching head. Chuma
Re: Problems with Base Install Disks.
The boot-floppies package contains all scripts used to build boot floppies. What's wrong with base14-3.bin ? It's been on the FTP site for at least a month with no other complaint. Thanks Bruce
Re: Ash script, tutorials, etc
[big uuencoded file deleted] If you are curious, this is a PPP configuration script we've been working on for Debian 1.2 . Rich is going to Japan and dumped it to the list so it wouldn't get lost. Bruce
Upgrading to un-debianized kernel
I recently upgraded to the 2.0.17 kernel, although this problem occured with other non-debian kernels. I now get, on boot, and in my daemon log when use diald and pppd, Can't locate module net-pf-4 -5 The problem is not terminal, but it does bug me. I thought the problem might be the psdatabase, but running psupdate does not fix it. Anyone know whats wrong?? Thanx... :-)
time to split the list?
Some newbies tell me they find debian-user intimidating due to the high level of technical discussion that sometimes goes on there. Is it time to split the list? About 2 years ago I proposed a separate list just for people trying to install the system. At the time we did not have enough traffic for that. We probably do now. I would propose: debian-install debian-nontechnical debian-technical Now I just have to find our list administrator :-) . Bruce
Kernel customizing package?
I am very impressed with the new (Aug 25) debian FAQ. A couple of questions: 1. Two pointers at the top level of www.debian.org point to an older version of the FAQ (it identifies the latest version as 0.93R6). The current version is available if I go to the ftp interface and look under doc. 2. I'm interested in debian-izing my custom kernel (which I need to patch the aic7xxx driver). The FAQ says I can do this with kernel_package_VVV_all.deb (which, in turn, contains make-kpkg). However, there is no indication of where to find kernel_package_VVV_all.deb. I've looked through the most recent distribution (1.1.8), and other likely directories without any luck. I also searched Contents for the string make-kpkg without any matches. Any suggestions? I've mailed both questions/comments to the FAQ maintainer. Danny Heap, UCSF, California St., Room 102, SF CA, 94122 [EMAIL PROTECTED], voice: (415) 476-8910, fax: (415) 476-1508
Re: time to split the list?
A very good idea. However, it might be a good idea to retain the name debian-user as well, particularly since there is now a news group of that name. I would propose: debian-install debian-nontechnical debian-technical -- Thomas R Behrndt[EMAIL PROTECTED]
