Re: Base system installation

1996-09-09 Thread Bruce Perens
The "unresolved symbols" messages are harmless (unless you want to use
nfs or the de4x5, in which case you end up rebuilding the kernel).
20 minutes, huh? You did create and activate your swap partition,
didn't you?

You can consider your installation successful.

Bruce



Re: Debian (not Linux) newbie

1996-09-09 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel

I can't help you there. While I use (and maintain) tob and afio, I never use
muti-volume backups as I do them off-line anyway.  I just define my backup
"volumes" such that they will fit on one 170 MB tape. That holds /etc, /home
and /usr/local, which is all I need. 

-- 
Dirk Eddelb"uttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd



dvilj and dvips-problems

1996-09-09 Thread Johann Spies
Thanks to everyone who helped me on documentation for beginners on LaTeX.

I would be glad if anyone can help me with the following:  Everytime when I
try to use dvilj or dvips I get a lot of error messages  like the following:

**
#dvilj4 testpage
kpathsea: Running MakeTXPK cmsy7 600 600 1+0/600 ljfour
Running MakeTXPK cmsy7 600 600 1+0/600 ljfourB
egrep: /usr/lib/texmf/dvips/psfonts.add:  No such file or directory
Running mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1+0/600; scrollmode; input cmsy7
This is METAFONT 2.7.1 (C version 6.1)

kpathsea: Running MakeTXPK
#! I can't find file 'cmsy7.mf'
<*> ...four; mag:=1+0/600; scrollmode; input cmsy7

Please type in another input file name:
! Emergency stop.
<*> ...four; mag:=1+0/600; scrollmode; input cmsy7

***

I installed all my packages (Debian-1.1) throug dselect or dpkg and as far
as I know there is no dependency-problems here.

Can anybody help?


Johann.



Re: how to sign up to debian-devel?

1996-09-09 Thread Joey Hess
> Hm, I also tried to subscribe mailing to the listserver.  I did this 
> because of the following text in http://www.debian.org/1.1/release.html
> 
> To subscribe to the mailing lists, send the word "subscribe" to one of 
> these addresses: 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> I also didn't receive an answer.  Then i tried filling in the form 
> http://www.rahul.net/perens/Debian/MailingLists.html.  This worked fine.
> There's a link from www.debian.org to this page.

I did use that form to sign up to all the other debian mailing lists, but
it doesn't have an entry for the debian-devel list (I guess bacause it's a
closed list..) I tried mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
I've never gotten a reply back, and I sent the message on the 22nd of
August..

>From other postings, it looks like I'm not the only one having problems
getting on to debian-devel. 

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Re: Booting problems

1996-09-09 Thread David C. Winters
> From: "David C. Winters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I'm running into a problem with one, lone Linux box right now.
> > After the BIOS bootstraps, the drive and CD-ROM and recognized, and the 3.5"
> > floppy is seen, instead of saying "LILO" as a preface to LILO's booting into
> > Linux, the following comes up:
> > xFA:

On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:
> This is from Debian's master boot record. Press "2" to boot partition 2,
> 'F' to boot the floppy, etc. I suggest you re-install the LILO package and
> say "no" to the first question (which asks if you want to use the existing
> LILO configuration) and "yes" to all subsequent questions.

(It took me a while to put out some fires, now I'm back to this...)
I reinstalled LILO, according to these directions.

> Either the partition is not bootable for some reason, or you have a shift key
> down when the system boots. Otherwise you would not see this.

Pressing "F" at the "2FA:" prompt does boot it from the floppy, but
pressing "2" does not boot it off of /dev/hda2.  I checked the partitioning
using both cfdisk and fdisk--both agree that /dev/hda2 is active.  I'm
beginning to wonder if something's scrambled in the MBR at the physical
layer.


David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office: 3503 WeH, x86720
MTFBWY



Boot hangs with 16M ram

1996-09-09 Thread Miro Torrielli
My debian box doesn't seem to be able to boot with
16 megs ram!!

Dos and windows works fine, but Linux just hangs after
it does partition check. I boot with lilo, using both
kernels 2.0.17 & 18. The basic Debian boot disks crash
when mounting the ramdisk, dumping register values and
informing me of a protection fault. Help!!



Re: how to sign up to debian-devel?

1996-09-09 Thread Jim Pick


> 
> I have the same problem here !
> I you find out, email me please.
> 
> Phil.
> 
> 

Same problem here also.  Do I sense a pattern?

 - Jim




Re: char-major-10

1996-09-09 Thread Boris Beletsky
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On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:

lists>alias char-major-10-0 busmouse
lists>alias char-major-10-1 psaux
lists>alias char-major-10-2 msbusmouse
lists>alias char-major-10-4 amigamouse
lists>alias char-major-10-5 atarimouse
the only prob is that i don't use bus/msbus/amiga/atarimouse
i use simple (trivial!) mman logitech
so i don't understand why the kerneld looking for that module *shrug*

borik

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Re: A couple of Problems

1996-09-09 Thread Vadik Vygonets
On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Jim Worthington wrote:

> I tried echoing messages from the /etc/X11/Xsession file.  I found that
> this
> file only gets invoked from xdm.  It does not get invoked from xstart or
> xinit.

You meant startx, not xstart.

> Since /etc/X11/Xmodmap is called from /etc/X11/Xsession, it also would
> not be
> invoked from xinit.

Same here.  Just put the line "xmodmap /etc/X11/Xmodmap" in your
.xsession, that's all you can do :)

> I prefer using xinit over xdm since I use several different windows
> managers.

So what?  Do you want to execute X without any window manager?  Just make
your .xsession look like this:

xmodmap ~/.anything
xterm -geometry +0+0

That's all!

Vad.

++_ 
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User Failure: Please Insert a Bootable Brain



Re: g77 and gcc-2.7.2.1

1996-09-09 Thread H. Manz
Hello David,
Thanks for your help but,...
> H. Manz writes:
> > After this I have detected, that the Fortran Compiler g77 is not 
> > working longer since it was based on 2.7.2. I have than copied all
> > the stuff from the 2.7.2 Version subdirectory to 2.7.2.1. Now 
> > the compiler was working but only half.
> 
> Doing that could lead to dpkg/packaging inconsistencies in the future.
> Compiling you fortran files with 'gcc -c -V 2.7.2' should work.
This works for compilation but during the link step I get the message
  ld: cannot open -lgcc: No such file or directory
so I have to either opy the required libs from 2.7.2.1 to 2.7.2 or
reverse. I have decided to copy it from 2.7.2 to 2.7.2.1, and yes as soon
as a g77 Version for 2.7.2.1 is available I have to remove them before
installation.
> 
> > As son as I try to link an
> > absolute module it crashes. I think this is because of some internal
> > incompatibility between 2.7.2 and 2.7.2.1.
> 
> I don't know.  Can you make a small test case?

I have tried it but the small one dosnt crah, it works.

Hartmut



Re: char-major-10

1996-09-09 Thread Boris Beletsky
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On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

bruce>You are running kerneld. You go to open a character device with major
bruce>number 10. There is no driver for the device and kerneld tries to load
bruce>it. Do this command:
bruce>
bruce>  ls /dev |grep "10,"
bruce>
bruce>and you will see those devices - you are trying to open one of them.
bruce>Perhaps one of the mouse interfaces?

- -
sim:~# ls /dev | grep "10,"
Exit 1
sim:~# ls /dev | grep "10"
fd0h410
fd1u1040
hda10
hdb10
hdc10
hdd10
sda10
sdb10
sdc10
sdd10
sde10
sdf10
sdg10
sdh10
tty10
xda10
xdb10
xdc10
xdd10
- -
so is it "10," / "10" ?
and i am not sure how can i find the solution to this prob.
I think i missed somthing. can u plz tell me what exactly device i should
create?

thks alot
borik

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Re: Sony CDU31A not recognized at all!?

1996-09-09 Thread Paul Seelig
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Hi Susan!

> Have you found the FAQ (published on any Debian site in the directory
> doc/FAQ) to be inadequate?  If so, can you suggest some changes?
>
The FAQ you mention is great for a general overview regarding Debian. 
Actually i downloaded the old and the new version of the FAQ prior to
nuking my old Linux setup and read it. Not every line of it but at least
the stuff that was important to my mind. 

Right now at this moment i got my Debian system at least running with X
and PPP, so that i can at least access the net. At last! Dselect was so
nice as not to install the software after selection as described before
but i tried installation from the command line using dpkg and switching
back to dselect for choosing what i wanted to be installed. This dselect
may be a great invention technically but for easy installation by a newbie
it definitely is a nuisance! Sorry if i hurt somebody's feelings... 

The kind of FAQ i was suggesting would be supposed to cover more specific
installation topics and traps like the one i escaped with Bruce's tips
after a too long period of anger trying to get it running. You know, there
are these small details which make a debuting Debian user get stuck
already upon installation and i'd propose to cover these topics in an
"Debian-Installation.FAQ". 
   Thanks a lot, Paul *8^)
__ 
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   African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies
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Re: g77 and gcc-2.7.2.1

1996-09-09 Thread David Engel
H. Manz writes:
> After this I have detected, that the Fortran Compiler g77 is not 
> working longer since it was based on 2.7.2. I have than copied all
> the stuff from the 2.7.2 Version subdirectory to 2.7.2.1. Now 
> the compiler was working but only half.

Doing that could lead to dpkg/packaging inconsistencies in the future.
Compiling you fortran files with 'gcc -c -V 2.7.2' should work.

> As son as I try to link an
> absolute module it crashes. I think this is because of some internal
> incompatibility between 2.7.2 and 2.7.2.1.

I don't know.  Can you make a small test case?

David
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]  1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX  75081



Re: Boot Hangs on New Install [solved]

1996-09-09 Thread Kevin K. Lewis

Thanks to all those who responded.

Turns out that I needed to run `lilo'.  I'd feel stupid if I didn't
think that the installation process should have done this for me when
it copied the kernel from the boot disks.  It seems like there are two
possibilities as two why this didn't happen:

1.  The installation instructions are wrong (in which case the Debian
installation procedure needs to be modified, as this would be a gross
oversight).

2.  Something went wrong during my install.

Number 2 seems most likely.  But I saw no errors (and I was watching
closely).

But I am now up and running, and things are going well.  I'm very much
liking `dpkg'.  It has lots of nice features that make it hard to
screw up (I can even install the same package twice with no ill
results).

Thanks again, to the entire `debian-user' list.

-- 
Kevin K. Lewis   | My opinions may be unreasonable
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   | but such is the voice of inspiration



Re: Java Workshop

1996-09-09 Thread Winfried Truemper
Miro Torrielli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: I doubt it, because there are some new shared libraries
: and executables not mentioned in the howto, obviousy in
: Solaris format.

You may wish to ask Mike Gaertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
he is the maintainer of that HOWTO and very reponsive in general.

-Winfried



Re: seeking WWW browser (smaller than Netscape)

1996-09-09 Thread Christopher R. Hertel
On Sep 8,  9:27am, Bill Roman wrote:
> Subject: seeking WWW browser (smaller than Netscape)
:
: I've tried Mosaic (2.7 beta), but it's rather dated (no frames, for
: one thing).

Frames are *not* HTML.  They are a Netscape-ism.  For information on
the current draft version of the HTML specification (HTML 3.2), check
out

http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/MarkUp/Wilbur/

I agree that Mosaic 2.7b5 is a bit of a problem.  The developers
themselves call it "large and hacked".  They are working on version
2.8, which will be a major rewrite and will support the HTML 3.2 spec.
 See the comments in the 2.7b5 release notes:
 http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Software/XMosaic/help-on-version-2.7b5.html#about

Hope that's of use...

Chris -)-

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Networking and Telecommunications Services



Re: how to sign up to debian-devel?

1996-09-09 Thread Jan Ramon


On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Joey Hess wrote:

> I'm a new debian developer, and though everything else is working fine,
> I'm not signed up to the debian-devel mailing list. I've tried mailing
> the owner, sending subscribe messages to the listserver, etc, and I've
> never gotten any response back (It's been weeks). So, a last plea here:
> how can I sign up to that mailing list?

Hm, I also tried to subscribe mailing to the listserver.  I did this 
because of the following text in http://www.debian.org/1.1/release.html

To subscribe to the mailing lists, send the word "subscribe" to one of 
these addresses: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   There are a lot of experienced users on this list who can answer 
any question you might have. There can be 20 messages a day or more on 
this list. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Major system announcements. Averages less than one message per week. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   This is a list for announcements of new package uploads for the 
Debian system. It may carry several announcements in a day. 

I also didn't receive an answer.  Then i tried filling in the form 
http://www.rahul.net/perens/Debian/MailingLists.html.  This worked fine.
There's a link from www.debian.org to this page.


Jan




> 
> -- 
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> 
> 
> 



Printer hanging on /dev/lp1

1996-09-09 Thread Hubert Palme
I'n using a HP Deskjet 600 printer. Every print job seems to end up
with garbage than hangs up the printer. After resetting the printer,
the last page comes out. When copying data to the raw device /dev/lp1
tha same happens. Where does the garbage come from? -- Or is it a
communication problem?

Thanks in advance!

==
Hubert Palme Bergische Universitaet-Gesamthochschule Wuppertal
  Computing  Center
  D-42097 Wuppertal
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Germany)
http://www.uni-wuppertal.de/hrz/daten/adressen/h.palme.html



Unidentified subject!

1996-09-09 Thread Jan Camenisch
Hi all,

where did mkdosfs go? There has been a package like that
in rex sometime, but now it has disappeared.

--jan





Base system installation

1996-09-09 Thread Ricardas Cepas

Hello,

I'm new to Unix and just installing Debian Linux base
system (07-14-96). At first all goes well, except that I have
to use fdisk instead of cfdisk because of lack of memory, but
at the end of kernel installation I get the message like this :
 Unresolved symbols in module lib/mod/2.0.6/fs/nfs.o
 Unresolved symbols in module lib/mod/2.0.6/net/de4x5.o
 Unresolved symbols in module lib/mod/current/fs/nfs.o
 Unresolved symbols in module lib/mod/current/net/de4x5.o
Determining module dependencies
 Unresolved symbols in module lib/mod/2.0.6/fs/nfs.o
 Unresolved symbols in module lib/mod/2.0.6/net/de4x5.o
 Unresolved symbols in module lib/mod/current/fs/nfs.o
 Unresolved symbols in module lib/mod/current/net/de4x5.o

After that program pretends that all is O.K. Sometimes
just before that message system remains still for at least 20 min.
until I switch to second console, then reading from floppy resumes.
I have tried turn off caches, but that changes nothing. I have
also written floppies back to files and checked md5sum's.
May I consider this installation successful ?
My system: VLB MB 486-GVT, CPU i486SX-25, RAM 4MB, IDE HDD
330MB with GoldStar Prime 2C MKIII ISA I/O card.
BIOS: AMI V1.02 X0-0100-001121-0010-021993-VIA

Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
Yours,
---
v  v
  Ricardas Cepas



Re: Getty ports - dumb question

1996-09-09 Thread Lazaro . Salem
 I hope its a typo since
 ttyN is not the same as ttySN (N=0,1,etc)
 e.g., terminals vs. serial lines.

Said that, by default I had more that the really 
existing serial lines (ttySN) configured
To fix that edit the file you'll get after


# find /etc | xargs grep tty

I remember editing that file as recommended in it. 
Bruce: That could be part of the installation process in 
Debian 1.2 maybe.
 









__ Reply Separator _
Subject: Getty ports - dumb  question
Author:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] at cclink
Date:09.09.96 10:02


I did a ps and found these getty ports running:

186   2 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 9600 tty2
187   3 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 9600 tty3
188   4 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 9600 tty4 
189   5 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 9600 tty5 
190   6 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 9600 tty6

I only have 2 serial ports ttyS0 and ttyS1. 
Should these getty ports be running?
How are these ports accessed?  
Are they physical RS-232 ports?

Jim





g77 and gcc-2.7.2.1

1996-09-09 Thread H. Manz
I have updated my Linux Version from buzz to rex. During this update
the GNU-C compiler Release 2.7.2 was replaced by Version 2.7.2.1.

After this I have detected, that the Fortran Compiler g77 is not 
working longer since it was based on 2.7.2. I have than copied all
the stuff from the 2.7.2 Version subdirectory to 2.7.2.1. Now 
the compiler was working but only half. As son as I try to link an
absolute module it crashes. I think this is because of some internal
incompatibility between 2.7.2 and 2.7.2.1.

Now I am searching for a g77 implementation which is working with 
gcc-2.7.2.1 (from current rex release). I would be happy if someone could
point me to the right link.

Thanks a lot in advance


Hartmut



Re: time to split the list?

1996-09-09 Thread Mark Phillips
I would not like to see the mailing list exchanged for a news group.
My news source is very slow and unreliable.  I do not seem to get a
lot of the messages.

Split the mailing list, but do not get rid of it all together.

Mark Phillips.  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Re: how to sign up to debian-devel?

1996-09-09 Thread Philippe Troin

On Mon, 09 Sep 1996 00:41:50 EDT Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> I'm a new debian developer, and though everything else is working fine,
> I'm not signed up to the debian-devel mailing list. I've tried mailing
> the owner, sending subscribe messages to the listserver, etc, and I've
> never gotten any response back (It's been weeks). So, a last plea here:
> how can I sign up to that mailing list?

I have the same problem here !
I you find out, email me please.

Phil.




Re: Getty ports - dumb question

1996-09-09 Thread Bruce Perens
[Why do I have gettys running on tty1 through tty6? I only have 2 serial ports]

These are virtual consoles using your VGA card. Push LeftAlt-F2 on your console
(I think it's Control-LeftAlt-F2 or Shift-LeftAlt-F2 if you are running X) and
you will be on tty2. And so on for Alt-F3, through Alt-F6. You can set up
some rediculous number (like 64) of virtual consoles and access them via
various combinations of the left and right alt keys, shift, and the function
keys. By default we only run getty on the first 6.

Bruce



Re: char-major-10

1996-09-09 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Boris Beletsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sep  9 03:53:44 sim modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10

You are running kerneld. You go to open a character device with major
number 10. There is no driver for the device and kerneld tries to load
it. Do this command:

ls /dev |grep "10,"

and you will see those devices - you are trying to open one of them.
Perhaps one of the mouse interfaces?

Bruce



how to sign up to debian-devel?

1996-09-09 Thread Joey Hess
I'm a new debian developer, and though everything else is working fine,
I'm not signed up to the debian-devel mailing list. I've tried mailing
the owner, sending subscribe messages to the listserver, etc, and I've
never gotten any response back (It's been weeks). So, a last plea here:
how can I sign up to that mailing list?

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Debian (not Linux) newbie

1996-09-09 Thread bob . billson

 @SUBJECT:Debian (not Linux) newbie question #1   N
Hi all,

I've been running Linux for almost a year now.  I started with Slackware,
moved to Red Hat 3.0.3 now I want to move to Debian.  I will be moving
Red Hat to another machine once I get Debian configured the way I want.

I am having two problems getting things set up.  One is related to Debian,
the other is more Linux in general but I hope someone can get me pointed
in the proper direction.

First problem is about the backup utilities tob and taper.  Up until
recently, I have been able to backup my hard drives to tape (floppy tape
drive using zftape v1.05) using a single 200 MB (uncompressed) tape.  The
drive is 1.6 GB and until recently it has not been too full.  However, I
have now reached the point where I need more than one tape and this is
where my trouble started.

When I use tob and get to the end of the first tape, afio doesn't prompt
for another tape.  All it is does it print a 'tape full' error for every
remaining file.  In /etc/tob.rc, I have the BACKUPCMD set to:

BACKUPCMD='afio -oxZv -b 10240 -s0 -T 3k -G 9 $BACKUPDEV < $FILELIST'

The -b 10240 was necessary because without it afio complains about a bad
block size while writing to the tape.

If I understand the man page for afio, -s0 should make afio pause when a
tape fills.  It doesn't.  With -s0, afio behavior is the same.  It keeps
trying writing to the full tape.

I tried using using taper (with zftape).  When the tape fills up, taper
chokes with a child segmentation error in a dialog box.  If I click on the
'OK', taper just hangs.  When I didn't fill the tape, taper would work
just fine.

I've seen folks mention on the list use both tob and taper with success,
so I must be doing something wrong.  Can someone give me a clue to what it
is? :-)  Thanks!

Bob
  
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Debian (not Linux) newbie

1996-09-09 Thread bob . billson

 @SUBJECT:Debian (not Linux) newbie question #2   N
Hi again all...

Question #2 of problems getting Debian install.  I tried a test install of
Pacific Hi-Tech's Debian 1.1.1 CD-ROM on another hard drive (not the one
I'm trying to backup) on Friday. All went okay until I got to the part
about making a boot floppy. 

When prompted I stuck a blank floppy in drive a:.  The installation
program churned out a bunch of 'probing for floppy0' messages and
eventually died with 'can't find device' error.  I figured it was a bad
floppy, so I stuck in another.  Same result.  Stuck in a third disk. Same
thing again.

I finally booted Red Hat and just copied over my 2.0.17 kernel to a
floppy, ran rdev to set / properly.  When I rebooted with the floppy
Debian came up.

My question is, am I doing something wrong with the Debian installation or
is there a bug in 1.1.1? 

Debian looks like an interesting Linux distribution to play with--as soon
as I get things properly backed up and installed. :-)

Thanks in advance for any help y'all can offer.

  Bob  
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Re: Problems with Base Install Disks.

1996-09-09 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Rosenberg Yigal wrote:
> > to remind you the file are :
> > 1) base12-4.bin
> > 2) base14-3.bin
> > 
> You can't mix base12 with base14 images. Base12 are for 1.2 meg 5 1/4"
> floppies and base14 are for 1.4 meg 3 1/2" floppies. You should be
> building either 3, 3 1/2" disks or 4, 5 1/4" ones.

Is that what you are doing, Yigal? You should be using

base12-1.bin base12-2.bin base12-3.bin base12-4.bin

if you have a 1.2 MB floppy, and

base14-1.bin base14-2.bin base14-3.bin

if you have a 1.44 MB floppy.

Thanks

Bruce



Re: Netscape3.0 'ERASER' ?

1996-09-09 Thread Nathan O. Siemers
>>> On Mon, 09 Sep 1996 01:30:37 +0200 (MET DST), Stoyan Kenderov <[EMAIL 
>>> PROTECTED]> said:

Stoyan> I started updating my old netscape3.0b5 today with the 3.0
Stoyan> linux-elf binary released recently on their FTP server.

Stoyan> Relaying on my experience with earlier versions I proceeded
Stoyan> with the update assuming that netscape WILL INCORPORATE MY OLD
Stoyan> BOOKMARKS into the new configuration.

Stoyan> In vain! It deleted the bookmarks.html file completely...

Stoyan> O.K. I made yesterday the obligatory full system backup, so I
Stoyan> didn't scream vor vengence, but it was embarassing, isn't it?

Stoyan> Could it be the Debian netscape installation package
Stoyan> netscape_3.0.deb that wiped out something? (I don't thing so)
Stoyan> ?



Installation of 3.0 by hand did nothing crazy to my bookmarks file.

nathan

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Getty ports - dumb question

1996-09-09 Thread Jim Worthington
I did a ps and found these getty ports running:

186   2 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 9600 tty2
187   3 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 9600 tty3
188   4 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 9600 tty4 
189   5 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 9600 tty5 
190   6 S 0:00 /sbin/getty 9600 tty6

I only have 2 serial ports ttyS0 and ttyS1. 
Should these getty ports be running?
How are these ports accessed?  
Are they physical RS-232 ports?

Jim



Re: Sony CDU31A not recognized at all!?

1996-09-09 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Hi Paul --

You said:
> Well, i think it's time to compose some kind of an Debian-Installation-FAQ
> just for these kind of cases. An FAQ of this kind would have saved me and
> probably others lots of time and frustration. Anybody interested in
> contributing to such an FAQ? Let's see if i can manage to maintain it and
> learn from it!

Have you found the FAQ (published on any Debian site in the directory
doc/FAQ) to be inadequate?  If so, can you suggest some changes?
(This is not meant tongue-in-cheek.  I don't know if you missed it,
or if it just didn't help.)
Susan Kleinmann



Re: seeking WWW browser (smaller than Netscape)

1996-09-09 Thread Mark Eichin
don't forget "amaya", w3c's replacement for arena.  (Then again, if I
want *information* I use lynx or emacs w3. emacs w3 is often more
convenient in conjunction with gnus and All Things Emacs; lynx is a
lot faster and easy for standalone use... and it's a rather nice ftp
client :-)



RE: missing 'savelog' command

1996-09-09 Thread winspace
In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew D Moss)

> After installing debian recently, I've started getting messages from
> the cron processes that it cannot find the 'savelog' command.  I looked
> for it on my system and cannot find it.  Anyone know which package this
> belongs to?
> 

i think its in the cron package

cheers

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Re: missing 'savelog' command

1996-09-09 Thread Christian Hudon
On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Matthew D Moss wrote:

> After installing debian recently, I've started getting messages from
> the cron processes that it cannot find the 'savelog' command.  I looked
> for it on my system and cannot find it.  Anyone know which package this
> belongs to?

It's in the package debianutils. It should have been installed by default
on your system (it's an essential package)... Or maybe something removed
savelog by accident on your system. 

Anyway, reinstalling debianutils should fix it.

  Christian




char-major-10

1996-09-09 Thread Boris Beletsky
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Sep  9 03:53:44 sim modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10
any ideas what that module mean?
and another one
where can i look for module aliases execpt /etc/module.conf
i saw it somewhere
but can't remmeber now
thks
borik

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Re: Sony CDU31A not recognized at all!?

1996-09-09 Thread Paul Seelig
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> Try:
>   modprobe cdu31a cdu31a_port=0x340 cdu31a_irq=5
> 
> If you use "modconf" (the module configuration menu) use the arguments
> 
>   cdu31a_port=0x340 cdu31a_irq=5
> 
Yeah, wow! This did the trick! But why is it not documented in the help
text which is accessible at boot up of the installation disks by pressing
the key F4? It wrongly suggests to add as parameter "cdu31a=0x3XX,X" or
something like that. This even sounds rather plausible if you know this
already from other more or less broken distributions! This is definitely a
bug in the installation routine! What a pity that i lost so much time
trying to find it out...

Well, i think it's time to compose some kind of an Debian-Installation-FAQ
just for these kind of cases. An FAQ of this kind would have saved me and
probably others lots of time and frustration. Anybody interested in
contributing to such an FAQ? Let's see if i can manage to maintain it and
learn from it!

BTW, i didn't succeed installation anyway. :-( 

After my CD drive was recognized and the bad-links-fix package from
i-Connect (i received a broken Debian-1.1.5 CD from them) was installed as
described in their README i could use dselect to select my packages and
everything. (This 'dselect' is to my mind a rather awkward program and i
didn't enjoy installation with it very much...) But after completion of
all selections when i started 'Install' i just got following error
message (i wrote it down at home and went to our institute for mailing
it):
- -cut-here--
Running dpkg -iGROEB /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386
find: /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386/admin/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb: No such
file or directory
find: /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386/base/mount_2.5l-1.deb: No such
file or directory
dpkg: subprocess find returned error exit status 1
installation script returned error exit status 1.
Press RETURN to continue.
- -cut-here--

Well, i tried continuation and repeated everything various times. The
files which are not found by find are definetely there right in the place
as reported in the error message. They are just there waiting for 'find'
and this damn 'find' just chooses to ignore them for whatever reason there
is!? Can't 'find' handle symbolic links on a CD ROM?  At this point i
just had to give in. Looks like a case for i-Connect anyway...

I think this is just incredible! When i was a complete clueless newbie who
didn't even know how to pronounce UNIX or Linux and was a complete Windoze
addict one and a half year ago i managed to setup a Slackware based system
due to proper documentation in little more than a day. And up to this
moment i barely managed to install a Debian-1.1 base system since friday
evening being stuck again on monday morning... This ain't no good!

I'd really wish it to be easier for a non informatics guy like me! Maybe i
should switch to Redhat, but i like the idea behind Debian and GNU and
actually want to install it on two Linux boxes which i am maintaining at
our institute. But these frustrating experiences with my testdrive at my
private box give me something to think about...

Well, now it is almost 2:30 in the middle of the night and i am tired,
pretty desillusioned and rather frustrated about my Debian experiences so
far. I'll go home to sleep now and hope to get my Debian system up and
running some time really soon. I depend on a Linux box and i definitely
want it to be a GNU/Debian machine in any case! 
  Good night, Paul *8^)
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