Mailagent_3.44-6.deb installation
Dear all, Because I needed some organisation in my mail (yes, if only in mail...), I tried to install the mailagent_3.44-6.deb. This gave me a few problems, of which I seem to have solved most. The binary file was: -rwx-- 1 root root 524307 Aug 29 12:40 /usr/bin/mailagent so I was unable to have it executed by any ordinary user. Further, the mail spool file was assumed to be: /usr/spool/mail, instead of /var/spool/mail as it is in Debian. The only thing still failing is indicated in my log file: 96/09/10 12:47:13 mailagent[6]: starting SAVE /var/spool/mail/ben 96/09/10 12:47:53 mailagent[6]: WARNING could not lock /var/spool/mail/ben 96/09/10 12:47:53 mailagent[6]: WARNING was unable to get any lock on /var/spool /mail/ben 96/09/10 12:47:53 mailagent[6]: ERROR could not save mail in /var/spool/mail/ben 96/09/10 12:47:53 mailagent[6]: DUMPED in /var/spool/mail/ben 96/09/10 12:47:54 mailagent[6]: FILTERED [qm30816] 14 bytes It seems that this indicates a permission problem. I do not know where to look. /var/spool/mail looks like this: -rw-rw 1 ben mail 1446 Sep 10 14:47 ben Does anyone have a clue? I also would like to know what I did wrong installing the package? Thanks everyone for any suggestions! Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libg++-2.7.2.deb is old?
Me: It's complaining that it can't find the interpreter for the pre-installation script in the perl package. From: Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which interpreter? When I run dpkg -I on the perl package I see only #!/bin/sh scripts. And if it's missing (whatever it is) then what should I do to install it? It's expecting to be able to run the shell on that partition in a chroot context - this requires all of the shared libraries needed to start the shell, etc. Try something like this (assuming the test partition is on scratch): cd /scratch chroot /scratch bin/sh If that doesn't work, you should be able to figure out why. This may indicate a bug in dpkg's --root flag if that _does_ work. I have a vague memory of something like this happening before. The _current directory_ before you run it may be important - try to cd to /scratch before running it. Isn't it possible to supply a usable base tree? Why can't a fully configured tree be provided? The only stuff that isn't configured is stuff like the host name, the resolver configuration, the network configuration, and the mount table: all things that require some user input. I might be totally wrong here, but I'd like to test things by manually installing whatever is need to be done, rather than let dselect and the boot disks do their magic behind my back. I think I'd just feel more comfortable with the resulting image if I knew what actually is happening in there. That is indeed prudent. I think you have to learn all of the magic that they do so that you can duplicate it manually. Install the boot-floppies package and read the scripts under /usr/src/boot-floppies . If you don't have time for this, create a CD-writable pre-master, and go through the entire installation process with it (magic and all). Then you can come back and learn the magic later on. The libg++ doesn't compile with the ELF libc. That's why it's in that state. I'm not sure what's happening with this - whether there is a maintainer working on it or if we're just going to wait for GNU LIBC 6. I understand. But what's the difference between the --root=... environment and without that would cause such a message? Presence of the a.out libraries in /scratch? I think once you walk through the way I build base1_1.tgz in the boot-floppies package this will make more sense. Thanks Bruce
Re: Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Jim Worthington wrote: jworthingtonMy ISP is worldnet.att.net. They use a PPP connection protocol jworthingtondeveloped by Shiva. I'm not sure whether it uses PAP or CHAP. I jworthingtonnormally access using the windows 95 dialer by jworthingtonfilling in the Username and Password fields. There is no logon / jworthingtondialing script. u will have to try and dial into u're ISP via some terminal prog. like minicom and check how can u fix the connection via chat script jworthingtonIs anybody successfully connecting to Worldnet with Linux? jworthingtonHow do I configure pppd to emulate the Windows 95 dialer protocol? TO EMULATE?! ppp deamon is not win95 emulator! ___ Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key, e-mail me with subject get pgp-key. ___ In Linux veritas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia+ Charset: latin1 Comment: Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQCVAwUBMjXHAQz8DjY6pgpxAQGzHgP+J3AOiz5NcD8+NaCyrAbLrTXhEFj1USNn WJvLehiVrb2wTEn8rD/YDVYb6x0n3SJNzkMqtrF9xB3i8oKCOcNlC+wM1XYC2XH6 JzzSprF1loY8tUYj4qiSKWcKMXvHAFmxU0Im8P5baQ138IVXzlpcS6iGdYEyHH95 Fm7uXQFjcpc= =9NlG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: ppp: ip-up, ip-down
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Marek Duszynski wrote: m.duszynskiCan anybody send me some example /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down m.duszynskiwith short discription of what they do please ? ppp-up/down is just a shell script that are being executed when pppd connects if u don't have spetial ideas just leave them as they now hope that helps :-) borik ___ Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key, e-mail me with subject get pgp-key. ___ In Linux veritas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia+ Charset: latin1 Comment: Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQCVAwUBMjXITwz8DjY6pgpxAQEwGgP/Zb0GuGWKqrwIUe8rKc1elhcLNUfA/2mb t7jHifNf4KMEHdzS+HK8nBJKlqFcScWK+JEitYkeIkP7lcO4kdGy53PXLtZQTcs9 GfzQkrFlt7+V9muemEwT2WF/1n5wAhjjQoZ66AuClXpv/bRj+V+iN0idDn7sEfUQ zLd9JVgy8W4= =qJdM -END PGP SIGNATURE-
D-Link DE-220P driver needed
Does anyone know if a linux driver exists for the D-Link DE-220P ethernet card? This is not the device that connects through a parallel port but rather a 16-bit ISA plug-n-play internal board. I've looked for information and for files (presumably named something like de-220 or de220) on my Debian 16 June 96 distribution as well as other archives and haven't found any reference to it. The dlink.com ftp site seems to have only DOS and windows executables and info. I like Bruce Perens's idea of splitting up the mailing list because, even if I did have a mail filter (which I assume parses the subject line), I don't think subject messages are necessarily clear as to category of discussion, and I have a hard time getting through the volume of mail. For that reason, I'd also appreciate responses to the above query made directly to me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than this email address. Thanks --Steve Izma, Wilfrid Laurier University Press Waterloo, Ont., Canada N2L 3C5 (519) 884-0710 ext. 6125 FAX: (519) 725-1399 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xemacs: -f function doesn't work
I recently tried Xemacs for the first time from the rex directory tree. While for the most part I like it better than regular Emacs, I can't seem to get the command-line switch -f to work. Under Emacs, I would do: emacs -f auto-fill-mode filename to start in auto fill mode. The same thing in Xemacs doesn't work though. Anyone know why? Thanks, GerryUtah 17 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Utah State 20 Go Big Blue!
Re: Babel installation fix?
David Do I have to completely remove TeX and then reinstall it? Just downgrade to mfbasfnt-1.0-3 from the stable aka buzz-fixed release. It contains a manfnt.mf so that TeX builds. dpkg --configure babel should then set babel straight. -- Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
Re: kernel compile problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Vadik V. Vygonets wrote: vadikCrazy -- yes, hacker -- not yet :) don't beleave him! vadikBorik you promised me RedHat fortune ;) fortune (RedHat) ___ Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key, e-mail me with subject get pgp-key. ___ In Linux veritas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia+ Charset: latin1 Comment: Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQCVAwUBMjXQbwz8DjY6pgpxAQELCQP/QkZ9F7XaAnMint+x4rZt7g8K7pWlxrI0 45PDYvqDll0kkcjTW4KmBIKMg1YyTrBAmF++ykCVh76xI35cqvf3YGdCgu8by03e WOCQKbwB33UgSR5zM6C12VfXxH6LRLs7gM8BoG7+ZbDHyPh8B0LILLwT0wppjt2X /z4se01KAnQ= =/7RF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: elf-x11r6lib
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Simon Martin wrote: smartinWhilst trying to install tk40 I get a dependency error on elf-x11r6lib. smartinI've checked the Debian Web and ftp sites and haven't been able to find it. smartinCan anyone tell me where to access this file? elf-x11r6lib - (pkg name:) xlib libs for X11R6 (Xwindows) - Package: xlib priority: standard section: x11 maintainer: Stephen Early [EMAIL PROTECTED] version: 3.1.2-7 depends: libc5, ldso (=1.7.14-1) conflicts: elf-x11r6lib provides: xR6shlib, xlibraries, elf-x11r6lib filename: []/binary-i386/x11/xlib_3.1.2-7.deb msdos-filename: []/msdos-i386/x11/xlib.deb (this ver of xlib is in unstable dir , but that pkg can be found in any /binary-i386/x11/xlib* ) size: 721055 md5sum: b1fad748ef7da4bcce3d6b83d359129f description: XFree86 3.1.2 shared libraries architecture: i386 replaces: elf-x11r6lib source: XFree86 - -- ___ Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key, e-mail me with subject get pgp-key. ___ In Linux veritas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia+ Charset: latin1 Comment: Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQCVAwUBMjXN6Az8DjY6pgpxAQEJrgP9H1k4kcmvUGYNshft03TE1VwJwMt9LT9v g+4uzrt1GkGs1hTzNF5hREk1fYMXuDkTT7kYqxU6nuj56hpcx8oZ20sGqsgZbsAw fF67zGfOQk/S2C1+5lhQ/Y7GxFMl6qvIAKr8YpdVJXJtrjH2qbUUCJcdPIAdyxkK BGIhsEmrPjY= =+sQ5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: libg++-2.7.2.deb is old?
Bruce Perens writes: The libg++ doesn't compile with the ELF libc. That's why it's in that state. I'm not sure what's happening with this - whether there is a maintainer working on it or if we're just going to wait for GNU LIBC 6. What do you mean? libg++27-2.7.1-2 builds fine for me with libc5-5.2.18-10. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081
Re: elf-x11r6lib
Simon Martin writes: Whilst trying to install tk40 I get a dependency error on elf-x11r6lib. I've checked the Debian Web and ftp sites and haven't been able to find it. Can anyone tell me where to access this file? 'elf-x11r6lib' is provided by the xlib package. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081
Re: Babel installation fix?
Put this file in /var/spool/texmf/fonts/tfm, this should fix the problem. I had the same problem, the package developer mailed me this file. Hope this helps, Shaya -- Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, David Morris wrote: Last week I tried to remove and then reinstall Babel3.6-4 and faced the same bug that someone wrote about last week (I had previously sent a bug report in to the bug-reports address). The error involved MakeTeXTeX filling the drive with the endless loop of trying to make a non-existent (that I can have yet to find) manfnt.mf (if I remembering correctly). dpkg now sees this package sitting there broken. it can't install it and it can't purge it because it always gets stuck in this loop. I haven't heard anything back about either the bug report or the message in this list. How can this be fixed? So far anything I've wanted to install has gone very smoothly. Do I have to completely remove TeX and then reinstall it? (ugh) or is there someway to get Babel to either get installed or purged (I really don't need it, but it won't hurt to have it there) I was content to just have it sit there broken while waiting for word from someone, but now I find that I can't use TeX or LaTeX because it thinks Babel is still there and functional. -- David Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The fundamental question in life is whether we live it from the outside in or from the inside out. - Fritz Perls (founder, Gestalt therapy) --- Home Page: http://www.netins.net/showcase/dmorris/ --- manfnt.tfm Description: Binary data
Re: -lX11 problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Brian C. White wrote: bcwhiteDon't do this!!! I tried this fix for netscape and it causes problems bcwhitewith 'man'. It search X11, X11R6 and X386 directories for man pages so bcwhiteif you create a link like this, it will find all of you X manpages twice. bcwhite bcwhiteThe better solution is to add the -L flag to the compile line. hmm.. i have /usr/X , /usr/X11R5 , /usr/X11 , /usr/X386 links to /usr/X11R6 and all works fine , except compiling xjed :-\ ___ Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key, e-mail me with subject get pgp-key. ___ In Linux veritas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia+ Charset: latin1 Comment: Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQCVAwUBMjYazQz8DjY6pgpxAQEFvgP/c1SP50/S1SHSXkMad7WrmhZs3Nzo8k1E v4cWsNaSvXcbcekE+9vJKTcP4bn2+1Ziq9b2Uy5MFdh8FZu+oWo+CcBzL5rzZcKi NG3EW7XlEwyBDXRwfnr7tYX51aklorpyS+UpnSNz0gf5cit6vtvkGO7yfy0hvB35 myrdND//8UI= =7cdc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: ppp: ip-up, ip-down
Jean Orloff sent this script Another Very Useful Bonus (also thanks to Lukas Nellen): in /etc/ppp/ip-up #!/bin/sh # # IP is up now... # interface=$1 device=$2 speed=$3 local_ip=$4 remote_ip=$5 # let's use this opportunity to flush our mail queue #/usr/lib/sendmail -q # broadcast IP up message echo Local IP: $local_ip through $interface on $device is up | wall I think that there are cases where the routing tables should be adjusted here as well. Nathan
Re: Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection
David L. Craig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : I was very unhappy to see this nice explanation ignore the : perils of IP routing between the ISP and internal networks. : Does anyone suppose its original source could be located so : at least a paragraph could be inserted warning of the danger : and recommending the user hook up with his network : administrator to ensure he doesn't inadvertantly create a : backdoor into his organization? I am not aware that this could happen. There is no IP routing going on at all. Most ISPs (like us) block all routing information sent from the PPP link.
Re: -lX11 problem
you might try adding an -L/usr/X11R6/lib to the CFLAGS line of the Makeflag (or unlesss you don't use one on the gcc line. I also had this sort of trouble a long time ago. Which compiler version and binutils are you using? It's better to run this command from /usr: ln -s X11R6 X11 Don't do this!!! I tried this fix for netscape and it causes problems with 'man'. It search X11, X11R6 and X386 directories for man pages so if you create a link like this, it will find all of you X manpages twice. The better solution is to add the -L flag to the compile line. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.00. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/
Re: elf-x11r6lib
dselect should have shown you that the xlib package now provides elf-x11r6lib.
Re: D-Link DE-220P driver needed
Steve I like Bruce Perens's idea of splitting up the mailing Steve list because, even if I did have a mail filter (which I assume Steve parses the subject line), Wrong assumption. Install the procmail package and see that it can parse _anything_ from mail-header fields to actual mail contest. Mail-readers that can thread as the emacs VM or GNUS modes are also useful. -- Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
EtherExpress Pro/10+ Driver Sought
I'm still looking for a driver for the Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+. As I have a Cogent EM960 that LIMPS along [frequently locking up the system under heavy load], I am quite willing to cobble together a driver-- but know next to nothing about enet drivers [yeah, I can almost hear the knowledgable cringe]. I was hoping to start with Don Brecker's [sp-- sorry, can't remember] Pro/100 driver as a basis as it almost works, but I can't get to Don's site-- cesdis seems to be down. So; Has anyone done any work on just such driver?? If so, I'd be more than happy to provide whatever teesting/assistane I can [I'm kinda dead in the water until I get a hold of just such a driver]? If not, does anyone care to offer assistance as I struggle through the development process? thanks, b.bum
Re: char-major-10
Boris Beletsky writes: listsadd in /etc/conf.modules: listsalias char-major-10 misc how about : alias char-major-10 off ? cause i realy don't have non serial mice Yes, you should set all modules to off that get requested despite not being available. Michael -- Michael Meskes |_ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | / ___// / // / / __ \___ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \__ \/ /_ / // /_/ /_/ / _ \/ ___/ ___/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]| ___/ / __/ /__ __/\__, / __/ / (__ ) Use Debian GNU/Linux!| //_/ /_/ //\___/_/ //
Re: char-major-10
Bernd Eckenfels writes: Therefore there is one alias needed: alias char-major-10 misc Each single device with major 10 will be requested from kerneld with: char-major-10-%d, therefore the following aliases are needed in addition: alias char-major-10-0 busmouse alias char-major-10-1 psaux alias char-major-10-2 msbusmouse alias char-major-10-4 amigamouse alias char-major-10-5 atarimouse alias char-major-10-6 ? alias char-major-10-130 wdt (or softdog) alias char-major-10-131 wdt alias char-major-10-134 apm_bios alias char-major-10-135 rtc Quite a lot of these are already built into the kerneld source (at least if you use a fairly new one). Please tell me which of these aliases is missing in the latest modules release. Michael -- Michael Meskes |_ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | / ___// / // / / __ \___ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \__ \/ /_ / // /_/ /_/ / _ \/ ___/ ___/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]| ___/ / __/ /__ __/\__, / __/ / (__ ) Use Debian GNU/Linux!| //_/ /_/ //\___/_/ //
DOSEMU
I got and compiled DOSEMU 0.63.1.75. After several attempts, going back and forth to pick up needed stuff like bison, byacc, libslang it finally compiled. Then when I tried to run it, I get this: Error: The module was compiled on kernel version 2.0.0 This kernel(mine) is version 2.0.13. They don't match. Check that the module is useable with the current kernel, recompile the module and try again. Where can I find the up to date module (emumodule) ? Or what should I do to make the one I have match the current kernel? Chuma
Protections against a mad maintainer?
Hi, It just occured to me that any evil intentioned or mad maintainer could add rm -rf / or anything of this sort in a postinst script. I just would like to know what kind of protection debian could offer against such an unpleasant event. I am sure Bruce cannot afford to be very picky in the choice of maintainers (there are orphan packages crying for one). This is the kind of argument against Debian being used at large in my institute, the result being that half man pages are missing, even if you have such a complete manpath as MANPATH=/lapphp8/users/orloff/local/man:/usr/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/local.old/man:/lapphp0_2/local/X11R5/man:/lapphp1_1/usr/man:/lapphp1_1/usr/local/man:/usr/contrib/man Amities, Jean Orloff + + + + + + + + ++ +Tel:(33)50.09.16.75 Fax:(33)50.09.94.95 http://lapphp0.in2p3.fr/~orloff/ + + + + + + + + + ++ In a Belgrade hotel elevator: To move the cabin, push button for wishing floor. If the cabin should enter more persons, each one should press a number of wishing floor. Driving is then going alphabetically by national order. + + + + + + + + ++
Re: Protections against a mad maintainer?
It just occured to me that any evil intentioned or mad maintainer could add
rm -rf /
or anything of this sort in a postinst script.
Yes. Or hide stuff in the binaries. You need root permissions to install
stuff in /bin etc.
I just would like to know what kind of protection debian could offer against
such an unpleasant event. I am sure Bruce cannot afford to be very picky in
the
choice of maintainers (there are orphan packages crying for one).
This is the kind of argument against Debian being used at large in my
institute, the result being that half man pages are missing, even if you have
such a complete manpath as
This argument is not limited to Debian. It is as valid for any binaries
whatsoever, including those in commercial systems (how do you know that
your nice Commercial Unix (or DOS, or...) will not autodestruct on
March 4, 1997?)
This is a matter of trust.
If you don't trust binaries, install only a minimal system, read the
source (every line of it), understand it, compile it and install it.
At least with free software, you have the source...
(as Joey puts it: never trust an OS you don't have the sources for).
And with Debian, uploads are PGP-signed by their (known) maintainer, so
you can at least be reasonably sure from whom they're coming from.
If I would want to destroy systems, I'd upload some binaries to sunsite;
with reasonable precautions, it is very difficult or even impossible to
trace them back to me.
This kind of subject comes up very often on comp.security.{unix,misc}
and likely comp.risks too.
Ray
--
ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old.
I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking
his name in vain.
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
apache package
It seems that Mark Shuttleworth is no longer maintaining the apache package. Just wondering who, if anyone has picked it up and if there is a 1.1 version. -- Bernard LeachLa Trobe Uni Melbourne Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cs.latrobe.edu.au/~leachbj/
Re: libg++-2.7.2.deb is old?
On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Amos Shapira wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: |From: Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] | In order to test a local copy of buzz-fixed before burning it on a | CD-ROM, we tried to run dpkg --root=... --unpack, just to see if the | files aren't corrupted. |[...] | Selecting previously deselected package perl. | Unpacking perl (from .../devel/perl_5.003-2.deb) ... | dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute new pre-installation script: No such | file or directory | dpkg: error processing yigal/debian/buzz-fixed/binary-i386/devel/perl_5.0 | 03-2.deb (--unpack): | subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2 | |It's complaining that it can't find the interpreter for the pre-installation |script in the perl package. Which interpreter? When I run dpkg -I on the perl package I see only #!/bin/sh scripts. And if it's missing (whatever it is) then what should I do to install it? Hello, In a very uncommon situation, I found that a package (I can't remember what :( ), was looking for perl in /bin, while perl is in /usr/bin. I just did a symlink manually and the installation succeed. --Amos --Amos Shapira| Of course Australia was marked for 133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st. | glory, for its people had been chosen Jerusalem 93 805 | by the finest judges in England. ISRAEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Anonymous HTH, []s, mario Mario O.de Menezes -oo-O-oo - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | BRAZIL - fone (+55) 011-816.9175 fax (+55) 011-8l6.9188 | | http://tucano.ipen.br - http://www.ipen.br/~mario/mario.html |
Re: apache package
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bernard Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems that Mark Shuttleworth is no longer maintaining the apache package. Just wondering who, if anyone has picked it up and if there is a 1.1 version. According to debian/indices/Maintainers as available on Debian FTP servers apache is maintained by Yves Arrouye [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Sven -- Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WWW : http://www.sax.de/~sr1/
Re: Protections against a mad maintainer?
Hi Jean --
There are (at least) 3 counterarguments to the concern that Debian
maintainers could maliciously add dangerous commands to their
{pre,post}{inst,rm} scripts:
-- the same package system which is open to many for development is
equally open to many for testing.
-- by having both stable and unstable releases, Debian distinguishes
between packages which are [likely to have been] tested and those which
are not.
-- as the saying goes, Never interpret as malicious that which could
also be explained by stupidity. Humans at commercial software firms
are no more protected from their own stupidity than humans who are working
to provide free software, _and_ who are offering the world the opportunity
to scrutinize their source code.
Another way to pose the question is, what would motivate a developer to
include mailicious software? He could be pretty sure that the offending
code would be found quickly, and he would be identified (via PGP keys)
with the problem. The perpetrator would be immediately banned from
using the system. And all he got for his trouble was to inconvenience one
or a few unknown, randomly selected, victims. Not a very good tradeoff.
All the same questions being asked of free software should be asked,
of course, of the commercial software...
HTH,
Susan Kleinmann
Re: apache package
Bernard Leach wrote: It seems that Mark Shuttleworth is no longer maintaining the apache package. Just wondering who, if anyone has picked it up and if there is a 1.1 version. Hi Bernard, you may want to know, that the package version 1.0.5-1 gives me on an ordinary machine, ordinary setup a lot of oops I am out of time in the moment, but I will give it a closer look this weekend and try to isolate the bug... Besides, the kernel doesn't freeze on the general protection oops'es and nothing else happens. Only this annoying syslogs. regards, Stoyan -- Stoyan Kenderov/ phone: +49 721 9652 220 NTG Netzwerk und Telematic GmbH \/ fax: +49 721 9652 210 Vincenz-Priessnitz-Str. 3/\ LINK email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-76131 Karlsruhe, Germany /___ http://www.xlink.net/~kenderov Opinions stated herein are my own, not necessarily my employer's [finger me for my PGP public key]
shadow passwords
I am trying to locate a current set of packages that would upgrade a 1.1.7 system to use shadow passwords. Could anyone point out where I might find the required packages? Also what is the Debian standpoint on shadow passwords? -- Bernard LeachLa Trobe Uni Melbourne Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cs.latrobe.edu.au/~leachbj/
Re: Protections against a mad maintainer?
On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, J.H.M.Dassen wrote: It just occured to me that any evil intentioned or mad maintainer could add rm -rf / or anything of this sort in a postinst script. Yes. Or hide stuff in the binaries. You need root permissions to install stuff in /bin etc. I just would like to know what kind of protection debian could offer against such an unpleasant event. I am sure Bruce cannot afford to be very picky in the choice of maintainers (there are orphan packages crying for one). This is the kind of argument against Debian being used at large in my institute, the result being that half man pages are missing, even if you have such a complete manpath as I would argue that Debian's large and diverse development group provides better protection from this kind of activity than smaller, closed development groups. This gives us a large, diverse group of testers. It is very unusual for a package to move from unstable to stable without someone trying it out. Because of the new pgp signatures, only one person is responsible for the contents of the package. This makes it unlikely that someone smart enough to build a package would not understand their identifiability. This means that the likelyhood of a nasty getting out is small, and the identification of the perp is certain. Tell your institute that Debian is better protected from this kind of event than most Linux distributions. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask --
problem with incremental dump updates
I did a level 0 dump of a partition into another with the command dump u0f - / | (cd /mnt; restore xf -) Now I want to do a level 9 update, so that only what was changed since the level 0 dump is upgraded. I tried dump uf - / | (cd /mnt; restore xf -) but I get lots of warning: cannot create hard link ./bin/uncompress-./bin/gunzip: File exists Am I doing something wrong? Is dump really able to only update what has changed? Carlos
how to exclude a directory from find?
I'm trying to search for unused files, but I want to exclude a directory from the search. I tried cd /scratch find . -atime +7 -path ./var -prune -o -print but it doesn't work. Any clues? Carlos
make-kpgk modules troubles
Hi, maybe somebody could clue me in how to get this to work: Until recently, I just rolled my own kernel as I was used to do with Slackware. But since I found out about make-kpkg, I decided to do things the Debian way and use that instead. After much hassle wit the broken tar (solved by downgrading), there's still a problem: Whenever I try to make a modules package for my system, I end up with a message like Modules not configured, so not making modules. However, grep _MODULES .config tells me CONFIG_MODULES=y, so yes, I have them enabled. I'm not a Makefile guru, so I just don't understand the check in /usr/lib/kernel-package/debian/kernel.rules: # define MODULES_ENABLED if appropriate ifneq ($(strip $(shell egrep ^[^\#]*CONFIG_MODULES $(CONFIG_FILE))),) MODULES_ENABLED = yes endif I've tried to patch it up by adding another MODULES_ENABLED after the endif, but that doesn't work, either. It just might be that I missed the real rules file anyways - I just patched the three I found. Any help would be sincerely appreciated, -- Thomas Baetzler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://home.pages.de/~thb/;thb's Homepage/A
debian-architecture for kernel,modules
Could someone, preferably the kernel maintainer, tell me what the debian specific changes are to the kernel and module architecture compared to say, slackware or redhat? Firstly, the debian-kernel-image 2.0.6 provided on the ftp sites is broken, even though in the stable tree. When I install it, it tries to update the psdatabase in /boot, not in /etc. Once the image installed, the modules seem broken. The dependencies are screwed, so kerneld and modprobe can't do their work. I have to manually insmod, for example, first slhc, then slip, because if I try to insmod slip first, I get undefined etc.etc. As a remedy, I got the latest kernel (2.0.18) and thought of doing a nice, new fresh install. I therefore compiled the kernel and modules as I have always done under slackware and redhat, rebooted, and got the same problems as before. I am going bananas! On my other debian box, I somehow fixed this problem, but I have no idea how. It seems as if one day, it started loading modules well again. In conclusion, I feel that the kernel maintainer must be doing something strange. He has already made changes to the /usr/include/ linux, asm, and scsi architecture, something which I believe is uneccessary and confusing for some people, and which causes some grief when trying to compile dosemu and other programs which rely on the latest kernel includes. Sincerely, Miro
Installation problem with AIC7770 SCSI Controller
Hello, I am trying to install Debian Linux with the 2.0.0 kernel. I am getting the following error. aic7xxx: Resetting the SCSI bus...done NCR53c4060: no available ports found aic7xxx: (aic7xxx-isr) Encountered spurious interrupt. aic7xxx: (aic7xxx-isr) BRKADRINT error(0x1): Illegal Host Access Kernel panic: aic7xxx: (aic7xxx-isr) BRKADRINT, error(0x1) seqaddr(0x0) I am running on a HP Netserver 5/66 LF. CPU: Pentium 66mhz Memory: 32meg SCSI is an integrated AIC-7770 I have used the aic7xxx=extended,noreset parameter at the boot: prompt with both extended and noreset, only extended, only noreset and with out the parameters and I always get the same error. As far as I can tell from the documentation this should be a supported configuration. Any help would be appreciated. If you respond would you please CC my address on the note I am not sure if my subscription to the list took. ~ Scott Haskin Company : Boeing/ISC Phone : (713) 282-1714 Fax : (713) 280-2262 Address : 16511 Space Center Blvd Mail Stop - G501 Houston, Texas 77598 E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
bug ins installation disks utilities?
Hello, I was trying to test the boot process of Debian 1.1.8, which kept failing in the stage of unpacking the bases diskettes. The system is: 80486 DX2/66 16Mb memory AHA1542CF ISA scsi controller PCI motherboard Disks: IDE - Western Digital 600Mb SCSI - a very old, very slow HP SCSI-1 disk some other devices are connected, but they are not relevant (info will be provided on demand, of course). I was testting the installation on the SCSI disk. What I experienced was that I was constantly getting a message saying: gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data -- format violated Error in archive format. When at the stage of unpacking the floppies (i.e. after they were copied to the hard disk). I md5sum'ed and compared the diskettes against the files which were copied to them, they compared fine. Under multi-user (I allready have Debian 1.1.x running), I ran floppy_merge from the boot-floppies package. It read the diskettes without complaining (as it does during installation), and created a file which passed gzip -tv and star fine. Then I tried to boot from the boot diskettes and install the base diskettes on the IDE drive. This WORKED. So I suspected that maybe the kernel in the boot disk can't handle the SCSI disk well (I never got any errors from the SCSI), so still with dinstall running on the first vc, I switched to vc2 and manually ran floppy_merge, gzip and star on the troublesome SCSI disk. This WORKED TOO. The only explenation I can think of (which isn't very robust, I admit) is that maybe star finds the pipe from gzip to be empty sometimes, and quits instead of waiting for gzip to fill the pipe. This might also explain the fact that the point of complaint wasn't exactly the same all the time. Thanks for any input about this. Cheers, --Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DOSEMU
I got and compiled DOSEMU 0.63.1.75. After several attempts, going back and forth to pick up needed stuff like bison, byacc, libslang it finally compiled. Then when I tried to run it, I get this: Error:The module was compiled on kernel version 2.0.0 This kernel(mine) is version 2.0.13. They don't match. Check that the module is useable with the current kernel, recompile the module and try again. Where can I find the up to date module (emumodule) ? Or what should I do to make the one I have match the current kernel? Chuma I had some problems like that at one time when compiling some programs. Chances are the /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm are pointing to the original installed kernel you had. You have probably since then compiled your own version of the kernel but not used the proper Debian kernel source package and hence didn't update these two directories. You may want to try making symbolic links for these directories to the include directories for the kernel you compiled and do a clean recompile of dosemu. Cheers! Richard.. - Richard Dansereau Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page: http://pobox.com/~rdanse Electrical and Computer Engineering - University of Manitoba - Canada -
re:D-Link DE-220P driver needed
Does anyone know if a linux driver exists for the D-Link DE-220P ethernet card? This is not the device that connects through a parallel port but rather a 16-bit ISA plug-n-play internal board. I've looked for information and for files (presumably named something like de-220 or de220) on my Debian 16 June 96 distribution as well as other archives and haven't found any reference to it. The dlink.com ftp site seems to have only DOS and windows executables and info. Some friends and I all have a bunch of D-Link DE-250CT's, which are NE2000 compatible. They all work fine under Linux. I had to use their setup program (under M$-DOS) to set the IRQ, I/O address, BNC, RJ-45, and a few other things. After that, yer set! Cheers, Snoopy -- Todd Harper Daughter of binary tree gives birth to triplets. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Story at 11.
Re: Protections against a mad maintainer?
From: Jean Orloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] It just occured to me that any evil intentioned or mad maintainer could add rm -rf / or anything of this sort in a postinst script. I just would like to know what kind of protection debian could offer against such an unpleasant event. I am sure Bruce cannot afford to be very picky in the choice of maintainers This is a problem with any software - commercial or otherwise. How do you know that a disgruntled Microsoft employee has not planted a booby-trap in Windows 95? Indeed, several Microsoft products have shipped with viruses. I think this is more of a problem with commercial software, since there is much less scrutiny of the source code and the resulting binary programs than there is with free software. We identify the maintainers, and we provide security on the master system so that non-maintainers will not be uploading packages. We encourage maintainers to PGP-sign uploads, although we can't do it for everyone since some countries (like France) prohibit encryption. If there ever was a problem, we'd be able to trace it back to the cause and a criminal prosecution would be the probable result. We also have a testing program that goes on continuously. Users are on the mailing lists the minute a problem comes up. Thanks Bruce
Re: apache package
On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, Stoyan Kenderov wrote: you may want to know, that the package version 1.0.5-1 gives me on an ordinary machine, ordinary setup a lot of oops What kernel are you using? I know there is a bad kernel which causes apache to have big problems. I think it is 2.0.15 but don't remember for sure. I think 2.0.13 and 14 are reasonably good. Try one of those and see if your problem goes away. I think 2.0.15,16,17 are not very stable and should be avoided. Gerry
