Re: A few (stupid?) smail questions

1996-09-29 Thread Boris Beletsky
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jhspiesI have installed smail, elm end tkmail.  What I want to know is how to 
get
jhspiessmail to read my incoming mail from the Internet Service Provider. 

popclient -u user host
   put your ISP hostname here  
put your username here (on your ISP)
and your mail will be poped from your isp folder to your local folder
(that ofcourse if you have your smail configured, if not - run
`/usr/sbin/smailconfig` )

jhspiesWhat is smtp?  Some of the smail-documentation told me to put a line in
jhspiesinetd.conf to invoke smptd, but I could not find a file with that name 
on my
jhspiescomputer.
smtp - send-mail-transfer-protocol
inetd.conf is in /etc dir

jhspiesThere was also a suggestion that I could put sendmail -bs in the file
jhspies/etc/rc.  I could not find such a file either.

u don't need it

jhspiesDo I need biff if I have a dialup ppp connection?

no

jhspiesI tried to use rmail, but do not know which address to use in the 
command
jhspiesline.  If I use my own email-address, nothing happens. When I press 
Ctrl-C I
jhspiesget the message that some process was interrupted and the mail deleted.
jhspiesWhich mail?  

rmail -s address, write a mail, press cntrl-D for sending




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Re: smbmount (in packge ksmbfs-0.2.4-2.deb) / win-95 problem

1996-09-29 Thread Andrew Stephen
On Sat, 28 Sep 1996, Jim Pick wrote:

  smbmount does not preserve the long filenames of windows 95
  
  is there  a way to fix this problem
  
 You can compile the kernel to use long file names.  This is an
 experimental feature.  One problem though - it doesn't work!!
 There are some major bugs in the implementation.  Basically,
 it is still under development.  So you'll have to live with
 short filenames until the developer of smbfs fixes it (or
 someone else).

I am using smbmount with Win95 and long filenames without any problems.
Just complie into the kernel long filename support.

Regards,
Andrew

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ppp with pap woes....

1996-09-29 Thread Christopher L. Cousins
Hi

I am trying to connect to my isp with debian 1.1 and am having some 
problems.  This is where I am at.

1.  I read the PPP-howto and the isp-howto.
2.  Configed my system.
3.  Dialed in using chat by way of typing 

pppd


at the command line.
4.  Dials in fine.  connects. authenticates.
then hangs up.

5. Thats the problem.  I didn't tell it to hang up.

Also, I never seem to get any proof that the ppp connection is ever 
stable by way of ifconfig.  It only shows the localhost info.

I am sure that it is authenticating because my isp checked there log 
for me and saw me login and then logout many times in a row.

Does this sound familer to anyone?  If so I would apperciate your help.  

If you need any more info I will gladly give it out..

TIA

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Re: A few (stupid?) smail questions

1996-09-29 Thread John Labovitz
[sorry for the length, but in writing this i realized that the info
might be useful to other people, so i'm sending to the list as well as
to johan.]

 I have succeeded in sending a test message to myself from Elm and by
 telnetting my ISP I could see that the message arrived.

good!  that's half the battle!

 I have installed smail, elm end tkmail.  What I want to know is how to get
 smail to read my incoming mail from the Internet Service Provider. 

smail doesn't read email from your ISP; it's only for distributing
email from your users (ie, you) to other hosts, and *accepting*
incoming mail for you from other hosts on the net.  

the latter might sound like what you need, but if you're connecting
via a standard dialup line to a provider who receives your mail for
you, what you really want is is a POP (Post Office Protocol) client.
this is a small program, run either interactively (via the shell) or
automatically (via `cron') that gets any waiting email for you from
your ISP's mail host.

if you were connected full-time to the net (if your modem is connected
to your ISP 24 hours a day, or you have some higher speed connection
like frame relay, T1, etc.) and wanted to receive email directly to
your computer rather than going through the mail host at your ISP,
then it makes sense to run your own mail server (see below for more
details).  but you probably don't need to do that.

there's a POP client in the debian distribution called (guess!)
`popclient'.  popclient will make a connection to the host where your
mail is stored, transfer the messages to your computer, and then
remove them from the mail host storage.

i found the most recent version of popclient in the debian
distribution as:

  unstable/binary-i386/mail/popclient_3.05-3.deb

(unfortunately, the setup of popclient has changed over the last
several versions, and it's sometimes hard to keep up with how it
works.  i'll document what i've gotten to work with the above
version.)

first, create a file called `.poprc' in your home directory, which
contains a line like this:

  server HOST username USER password PASSWORD protocol pop3 fetchall 

replace `HOST' with the name of your mail host, `USER' with your
username on that host, and `PASSWORD' with your password of your mail
account on that host.  (don't put the first spaces in (before
`server'); that's just indentation for the clarity of this message.)  

for security reasons, popclient won't run unless the permissions of
the file allows only the owner (you) to read and write the file (this
is so no one can see your password).  to set the file permissions,
type (assuming you're in your home directory):

  % chmod 0600 .poprc

then, when you want to check your email, do:

  % popclient

then:

  % elm

 What is smtp?  

`smtp' stands for Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (not
send-mail-transport protocol, as someone else said).  it's a widely
used standard for sending email messages from one computer to another.
(if you're interested in the nitty-gritty, you can read the technical
specification of the protocol in RFC822, available at:
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc822.html)

normally, you shouldn't need to worry about smtp -- it runs behind the
scenes.  if you use elm to compose and send a message, elm asks smail
to deliver the message.  smail makes a connection to either your mail
host or the host of the recipient of the message (depending on how
smail is configured), and transfers the message.  for most people who
get their net connections via a standard dialup, smtp is used *only*
for outgoing email, and a POP client is used for incoming email.

if you *are* connected fulltime, *and* your computer has a domain name
(not just your mail host, but your actual machine), other mailers on
other machines can send mail directly to your machine by making a
connection to your smtp server (`smtpd'; `d' is for daemon, basically
meaning a system process rather than a user process), and deliver the
messages that way.  

 Some of the smail-documentation told me to put a line in
 inetd.conf to invoke smptd, but I could not find a file with that name on my
 computer.

 There was also a suggestion that I could put sendmail -bs in the file
 /etc/rc.  I could not find such a file either.

you shouldn't need to do either of these.  i'm not certain, but i
believe both of these things are trying to do the same thing:
configure your computer so it is always running an smtp server.

 Do I need biff if I have a dialup ppp connection?

all biff does is alert you when you have new mail *on your local
system*; it doesn't know that new mail arrived on your mail host, and
it doesn't care how the mail got to your local machine.

if you're running popclient by hand (eg, from the shell), you probably
don't need to use biff.  but if you run it some other way (via
`cron'), biff can be nice because it tells you in some detail (by
showing the message headers) when new mail has arrived.  and if you
*are* connected fulltime 

Re: ppp with pap woes....

1996-09-29 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Christopher L. Cousins, you wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I am trying to connect to my isp with debian 1.1 and am having some 
 problems.  This is where I am at.
 
 1.  I read the PPP-howto and the isp-howto.
 2.  Configed my system.
 3.  Dialed in using chat by way of typing 
 
 pppd
 
 
 at the command line.
 4.  Dials in fine.  connects. authenticates.
 then hangs up.

Do you have static or dynamic addressing? If dynamic, do you have
'noipdefault' in your options?

Tim

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Re: IP-accounting

1996-09-29 Thread Remco van de Meent
At 19:09 26-09-96 +0200, Maarten Boekhold wrote:
Hi,

I wonder if anybody can help me to some pointers to information about
IP-accounting. I found the manpages a bit sparse for an introduction
suitable for setting things up.

What I'm looking for is a way to determine, on our 'gateway' (a 386dx25
running ppp on 28k8), how many bytes the rest of the computers that are on
our network transmit to and recieve from the outside world.


Check out the ipfwadm-package.



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Help with diald?

1996-09-29 Thread Yves Arrouye
Hello,

I'm trying to use diald, but have problems. If I use '/etc/init.d/ppp start'
as my connect script (and have no ip-up because ppp will call its own) I
see in my log things like

diald: connect to x
diald: starting pppd

but nothing happens really; in addition, why does diald says it starts pppd
when the manual page says this is the task of the connect script?

So I'd like to get help on setting up diald so that I can reuse most of my
existing pppd setting (chat script and ip-up/ip-down scripts).

I'd like to know, too, how I can arrange things so that when I mail to
someone outside my domain diald does not try to dial.

Thanks in advance,
Yves.

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newsreader problem?

1996-09-29 Thread David Puryear
Hi all,

I've problem with Netscape3.0 newsreader in Linux. When I do 
'Show All Newsgroup', I don't get the complete(which I get when 
I do this in Windoz) list. I tried knews and had same problem. I 
don't use much of Windoz, so I would really like to make this 
work. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
David


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Re: ppp with pap woes....

1996-09-29 Thread Shawn Packwood
  I've gotten the exact same problem on my machine since I installed Debian
1.1.  I managed to trace it to some sort of security problem.  If you look
in the /var/log directory after trying to connect with pppd at the log file
that just got updated, you'll notice that it states that you don't have
permission to execute some command (sorry can't remember the exacts right
now).  

  Unfortunately, I haven't really had the time to sort out this problem
yet, but to work around it, I simply do a 'su root' to run pppd and then go
back to my normal account.  If you don't have access to the root account on
your system, then I don't have any suggestions.  Sorry.

Shawn Packwood
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 From: Christopher L. Cousins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: ppp with pap woes
 Date: Saturday, September 28, 1996 5:06 PM
 
 Hi
 
 I am trying to connect to my isp with debian 1.1 and am having some 
 problems.  This is where I am at.
 
 1.  I read the PPP-howto and the isp-howto.
 2.  Configed my system.
 3.  Dialed in using chat by way of typing 
 
 pppd
 
 
 at the command line.
 4.  Dials in fine.  connects. authenticates.
 then hangs up.
 
 5. Thats the problem.  I didn't tell it to hang up.
 
 Also, I never seem to get any proof that the ppp connection is ever 
 stable by way of ifconfig.  It only shows the localhost info.
 
 I am sure that it is authenticating because my isp checked there log 
 for me and saw me login and then logout many times in a row.
 
 Does this sound familer to anyone?  If so I would apperciate your help.  
 
 If you need any more info I will gladly give it out..
 
 TIA
 
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Re: Help with diald?

1996-09-29 Thread Philip Hands
 Hello,
 
 I'm trying to use diald, but have problems. If I use '/etc/init.d/ppp start'
^
Don't do that, /etc/init.d/ppp starts pppd as a daemon, whereas diald wants to 
start pppd itself after the connect script exits, iff it returns 0.

 as my connect script (and have no ip-up because ppp will call its own) I
 see in my log things like
 
 diald: connect to x
 diald: starting pppd
 
 but nothing happens really; in addition, why does diald says it starts pppd
 when the manual page says this is the task of the connect script?

To quote the man page:

   connect p
  Use the executable or shell script p  to  set  up
  the  serial line. This normally dials the modem and
  starts up the remote SLIP or PPP session.  The comĀ­
^^
It says connect starts the _remote_ ppp session, it then exits and lets diald 
start the local pppd.

 So I'd like to get help on setting up diald so that I can reuse most of my
 existing pppd setting (chat script and ip-up/ip-down scripts).

You need to be careful not to give any options to pppd that you can specify via 
diald, since diald passes them on for you anyway.  Your /etc/ppp/options file 
is likely to end up with nothing in it.

 I'd like to know, too, how I can arrange things so that when I mail to
 someone outside my domain diald does not try to dial.

If you're using sendmail, create a file called  that reads as follows:

--start of /etc/service.switch--
aliases files
hosts   files
--end of /etc/service.switch--

This tells sendmail to use file lookups for hosts and aliases, thus avoiding 
the DNS lookup that is bringing the line up.

You also need to tell it not to attempt immediate delivery, by setting the 
delivery mode to queue (look for ``DeliveryMode'' in 
/usr/doc/sendmail/op.txt.gz)

 
 Thanks in advance,
 Yves.

Cheers, Phil.




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Re: newsreader problem?

1996-09-29 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Hi David --

You asked:
 I've problem with Netscape3.0 newsreader in Linux. When I do 
 'Show All Newsgroup', I don't get the complete(which I get when 
 I do this in Windoz) list. I tried knews and had same problem. 

Have you set up a value for NNTPSERVER?  For example, have you set

export NNTPSERVER=my_news_server.market1.com

(or whatever is appropriate), before you called Netscape?
Or, better yet, did you do that in your login script?
If you're setting up a news server on your own machine, you'd probably
set the value for nntpserver in the /etc/nntpserver file, which would
(I imagine) be read at boot-up time.  I'm not too sure about this;
I haven't been running a news server on my machine for a while.

You might take a look in your ~/.netscape/preferences file.
In particular, if you execute

 grep -i news ~/.netscape/preferences

you can see what NEWS variables are set in it.

HTH,
Susan Kleinmann

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Re: g77 and gcc-2.7.2.1

1996-09-29 Thread eichin
As I think I mentioned elsewhere, if anyone admits to *using* the gnat
package, I'll deal with it.  (please send me mail directly...)

Short term, I will (1) upgrade to the latest upstream release (3.05)
and (2) change it to supply it's own adagcc or gnatcc instead of
diverting gcc.

Long term, when gcc 2.8 comes out, it should have the patches already
in it (though I suppose I'll have to keep supporting whatever name I
choose above.)  Also, gnat-3.07 is due out soon.

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Re: installing emacs 19.34---is this a bug?

1996-09-29 Thread Mark Eichin
could you be more specific about what you're actually seeing? The
postinst script does not, in fact, delete anything...

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