Re: Archive, out of date web pages, Navigator 3.0, etc
2. My X server is not recognizing Backspace in Motif programs such as Netscape Navigator 3.0. I grabbed the XKeysymDB from the Netscape tar.gz file on ftp.netscape.com and diff'd it with the one in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 and there appear to be no relevant differences. The problem is Netscape. It does not know where those files are located. If you use the debian Netscape package, this will work okay. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Debian GNU/Linux! Search it at http://insite.verisim.com/search/debian/simple -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mailing-list X-Loop field disappeared :-(
From: Harald Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] My problem is that many mails does NOT have the debian-list in the To: field, and filter %$# with Cc:.. oh well.. just a couple of hundred articles each month =) Let's not forget that this list is gatewayed to ham radio (packet radio), where they are not allowed to have curses on the air. Be nice to them, please. I filter on X-Mailing-List:, and that should work fine now. Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fvwm2 middle button
I had this problem too. I changed my mouse type to microsoft in XF86Config and turned off CordMiddle, and everything worked fine. Greg On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Richard Sevenich wrote: I just installed Debian 1.1 on a machineand need some help on a problem: I am using fvwm2 as the window manager and have a 3 button logitech mouse (serial, mouseman). The icon triggered by the middle button sticks to the mouse arrow so that the arrow cannot select from that icon's menu. Is there a simple fix? Richard -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
over 8 characters in passwords
From: Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] my root password is ... say toto. when i try to login with password totoxxx, it works. The xdm login only compares characters from the begining, to the end of the password. is it normal ??? It shouldn't be that way for your root password as toto, but let's say your root password was wizardoz. Then wizardos_is_a_fraud would work, because anything past 8 letters is ignored. Yes, but the FTP server and the login program act _differently_ on passwords over 8 characters long, such that one breaks and the other doesn't. This is from my experience in logging into master, and I finally had to have Simon reset my password as if I was some sort of newbie :-) . I forget which one breaks. We need to make all programs that ask for passwords consistent in how they behave when given more than 8 characters. Thanks Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 386 Dx-40
Lindsay Allen wrote: AND THEN... go back to your 386 and run make install, make modules, make modules_install make modules will take an hour. I am puzzled as to why I should not just continue with the chroot idea and do the while job that way. I learned a lot out of this, so many thanks. (I'm a retired pilot and must admit to getting a bit slow these days. I should have discovered Unix 10 years ago.) I also discovered and set up svgatextmode today so I'm having a great day! Lindsay Uhm, yes, I guess you could also do the make modules as chroot, also. -- Daniel == http://www.jax-inter.net/users/servo/ Organizer of Jax-LUG! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any way to extract current kernel config?
I'm trying to get IP aliasing going on my brand-spankin' new Debian 1.1 box. It doesn't appear to be compiled in, and I couldn't find it in /lib/modules/current/ipv4. So, my last recourse is to compile a new kernel. However, the thing I'm afraid of is not compiling in some feature that is in the stock debian 1.1 kernel. An example would be my network card. I'm not sure what driver my network card is being driven by; I just know that it's working right now, and I'd hate to accidentally not compile its driver into the kernel (especially since I'm doing this all over the net, and, if the networking stops working, I'll have to actually pay a visit to the physical machine). So, I have a few questions: 1 - To save me the trouble, does anyone have an ip_alias.o that works with the 2.0.6 kernel? You can send it to me via MIME, if you please. 2 - When I run make config on the kernel source, where is that info put? Say, for example, that I forgot to enable *one* driver that I needed, and I didn't want to go back through that torturous QA of make config again. Where's the file I can go to to change that single N to a Y and run make depend again. 3 - Suppose I wanted to make my new kernel as identical to the stock one; basically as a good place to start from while I turn on IP aliasing. Is there a way to extract (or a place to get) the the config file that was used to make the kernel I've got? Is there any chance that the default settings for the debian kernel-source package are set to the same settings as what generated the current kernel? Thanks in advance. - Joe -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Questions on packages.(nis,shadow..)..only a couple ;)
Hello, A couple questions on NIS and shadow passwd support... has anyone succesfully compiled the yppasswdd w/ shadow support?? I got the experimental shadow package (along with source..) and it works fine, like a charm... On the yppasswdd man page, shadow support is mentioned, but the package needs to be recompiled to support shadow... (why doesn't it have built in support as packaged?? granted it is a feature, but other packages wu-ftpd, xlockmore, etc, have built in support.. anyway) so i go ahead and just recompile the yppasswdd program. When compiling the update.c file, it complains that it cannot find any reference to spw_* functions (* = lock,unlock,etc..). Anyhow, has anyone succesfully recompiled yppasswdd to support shadow?? if so, any hints/suggestions appreciated... Another question... what is the 'standard' for this issue going to be?? In other words, is shadow the Linux thing (or Debian, for that matter), or are we looking to other alternatives?? Thanks for your time guys, -Frank -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Available tools for making clickable WWW imagemaps?
Are there such tools in Debian packages? Not that I know of. If not, what do you recommend me (I only known mapedit 1.1.2) that I could get and Debianize? Here's a short list: Glorglox: http://www.uunet.ca/~tomr/glorglox/ gd:http://www.boutell.com/gd/ (This is a C library.) cyberview3d: http://www.geom.umn.edu/apps/cyberview3d/about.html HTH, Susan Kleinmann -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One more thing...
Hello again... i forgot to include this last question on my previous post. I have implemented quotas on one of our servers here, onthe /home filesystem. W/NIS and NFS we have anothe system using /home also. anyhow, when i check quotas on the client (quota -v), the server spawns off 40 rpc.rquotad processes. Is this normal?? I was reading the man pages for rpc.rquotad, and it mentions that it needs to be kicked off at bootup time, along with rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd. ( i haven't tried the latter... yet). anyhow, what is the correct method??? any help appreciated.. --Frank -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipfwadm
From: Gerry Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Simon Martin wrote: 2) recompiled the kernel experimental, with the masquerade, firewall, etc enabled, ip forwarding, etc disabled, as per the instructions in the IP_MASQUERADE mini howto. (I can connect to my ISP without any problems) If I understand you right, you're saying you disabled IP forwarding? Are you sure the masq mini howto said to do this? I'm quite sure you need IP forwarding enabled to use masquerading. In fact, the latest kernels don't even allow you to enable masquerading unless IP forwarding is also enabled first. Gerry Sorry Gerry, I was misleading you. I just checked my config and CONFIG_IP_FORWARDING is enabled. In another mail: From: Giuseppe Vacanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip # Forward packets from ds3-net, masquerading as deselby.xs4all.nl. ipfwadm -F -a masquerade -S 192.168.1.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 -V 192.168.1.1 ipfwadm -F -p deny I can see how this will masquerade/forward all messages coming in on network 192.168.1, going to any IP address via 192.168.1.1 (i.e. the server). Before I set this up on a running network I would like to be able to test IP masquerading/forwarding on the server in isolation first. As far as I can see diald should set up a static SLIP interface with a given IP address and, upon demand, dial out to an ISP, connect using PPP and generate a PPP interface, as follows SLIP: interface IP: 192.168.2.1 PPP: interface IP: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the dynamic ISP assigned IP address. If I turn reroute off in diald, some software must forward packets from the SLIP interface (which receives the original request) to the PPP interface which is connected to the real world. I was hoping to be able to use ipfw to do this. 1) Watching the changes that occur even with reroute turned off both the SLIP and PPP interfaces are modified when diald connects 2) In the following configuration:IP: -- | server | | 192.168.1.1| || -- PPP| | ^ | | V | net: 192.168.1.0 | SLIP -- Ethernet --- -- should the SLIP IP=Ethernet IP=192.168.1.1 3) Is there any way of testing forwarding/masquerading withount going live? Thanks already to Gerry and Giuseppe. Are there any more suggestions? Simon Martin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Archive, out of date web pages, Navigator 3.0, etc
Jeff Blaine writes: - I'm running a fresh copy of Debian 1.1.9 - - So, a few questions and some comments: - - 1. Where is the secret stash of user-packaged packages? I'm looking - for SSH, NcFTP, and a few other things. I've looked in - ftp.debian.org:/debian/contrib/binary, but there are only a - handful of things there. There's a fair amount of stuff in non-free. Non-free doesn't mean you have to pay for it, it just means that there are extra restrictions on it's distribution and/or use, usally of the form Free for non-commercial use. I know ncftp falls in this category. I don't know if a debian version of ssh exists yet... - 2. My X server is not recognizing Backspace in Motif programs such as - Netscape Navigator 3.0. I grabbed the XKeysymDB from the Netscape - tar.gz file on ftp.netscape.com and diff'd it with the one in - /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 and there appear to be no relevant differences. This is because the default setup makes both the backspace and delete keys do Delete. Use either xmodmap or xkeycaps to change this. I use xmodmap .xmodmap, where .xmodmap contains the line keycode 0x6B = BackSpace This makes the Delete key send a backspace (It's more compatible with my key usage :). Don't know what the keycode is for backspace, offhand. - 3. As user 'jblaine', I was unable to run X due to the X server needing - to put a file in /var/run. I had to chmod u+s my X server for the - time being, which I'm not all too thrilled about. Any advice? How are you starting X? My setup works OK. /usr/bin/X11/X is a suid program which runs the approptriate Xserver. -Larry -- Larry Daffner| Linux: Unleash the workstation in your PC! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://web2.airmail.net/vizzie/ Hare's Law: Inside every large program is a small program struggling to get out. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need developer mailing-list requests again
Bruce Perens writes: - I now have control over the mailing lists. If you are a Debian package - maintainer and are not _currently_ getting debian-private (there were - several messages today), please write to me. - - I also (hopefully) have fixed it so that it will handle those unsubscribe - requests properly. Hi Bruce, I had requested to be added to the development list, as I'll be taking over the pdksh package, but I never got added. Also, I've got packages for xcolorsel, xscreensaver, and zgv that I set up to figure out how to make packages. If there's interest, I can maintain public versions of theose, too... -Larry -- Larry Daffner| Linux: Unleash the workstation in your PC! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://web2.airmail.net/vizzie/ One macine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man. --Elbert Hubbard -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
multiple debian installs
How can I install multiple hosts with he same configuration ? Can I share /usr between them ? How can I redo the same install done with dselect for another machine ? Fred -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting config from kernel
Okay, I sent this to the list once already, but I'm not sure it got through. I'm trying to get IP aliasing going on my brand spankin' new Debian 1.1 box. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to have been compiled in, nor could I find a module for it in /lib/modules/current/ipv4. I tried getting the linux-source package and doing make modules, but, when I tried to insmod ip_alias.o, it told me that my 2.06 modules don't match my linux 2.0.6 (even though I'm using the 2.0 version of the modules package, which was supposed to fix that bug). So, I've resigned myself to recompiling the kernel. However, I'm worried that, during the QA of make config, I'll accidentally say no to a driver that I need. For example, with my network card, I'm not exactly sure which driver is driving it, but I know that the card is working with the stock 2.0.6 kernel that came with debian. Since I'm doing this over the net, and since I'd like to avoid having to pay a visit to the physical machine if at all possible, I'd like to make sure that all my necessary drivers are compiled in. The way I'd really like to do this is to be able to somehow extract or ftp a copy of the config file used to make the stock debian kernel. Then, I'd know that I was starting from something that I *know* works, and I could then make incremental changes to that. So, a few questions: 1 - Any ideas on how to get ip_alias.o to load? 2 - Where is the information generated by make config kept? For example, suppose I forgot to compile in *one* crucial driver, and I don't want to go through the grueling QA that make config puts me through. Where can I make that one-line change and then go on to make depend, etc.? 3 - Is there any way I can extract or obtain a copy of what config was used to generate the 2.0.6 kernel that I'm using? - Joe -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smail problem: file table overflow
From /var/log/smail/paniclog: 09/29/96 09:09:44: [m0v7Hse-000Cu6C] cannot open /var/log/smail/logfile: File table overflow 09/29/96 09:09:44: [m0v7Hse-000Cu6C] cannot open /var/log/smail/paniclog: File table overflow From /var/log/messages: Sep 29 05:09:30 kite kernel: Unable to load interpreter Sep 29 05:09:33 kite last message repeated 2 times At 5 in the morning, my system sends out some 300 email messages.. I think smail ran out of file handles or something. I believe another casulty of this was the cron daemon, which died at about the same time. I'm running debian 1.1.9, linux 2.0.21. Is smail suited to handling the load I'm subjecting it to? Maybe I should change MTA's.. -- #!/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj # RSA-3-lines-perl $/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1 # Joey Hess lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/) # [EMAIL PROTECTED] He. He. He. - - Herman Toothrot -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Latex Help !
Jan Ramon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dvi to word seems difficult. I know a utility latex2wp (or wp2latex ?) for converting between wordperfect (5.1 ?) and latex (.tex-files). Perhaps you can use this in combination with wordperfect-word conversion ? I believe that there are also tools to go from LaTeX to Rich Text Format files which Word understands. I'm not sure what the name(s) of the tool(s) are though. They are called rtf2LaTeX --jan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Archive, out of date web pages, Navigator 3.0, etc
I'm trying to help myself. Really. But, the Debian web pages only list mailing list archives up to June 1996, My scripts that made the archives then were lost in a disk crash; I've recently recreated them, and the FTP archive (/debian/debian-lists) are up to date. As for the webserver, it has very recently moved to a new machine. Right now, there is no /FTP/, no list archives etc. We're working on them. Hopefully, sometime in the not too distant future, www.debian.org will function properly (or even improved). 10. Things seem to have just fallen off the face of the earth after June 1996. What's going on? There are dead links on the arguably most important document on the Debian WWW site: The Installation Instructions. None of the links to the base14*, root.bin, and boot1440.bin disks work. Whoops... the announcement was written when ftp.i-connect.net was more up to date then ftp.debian.org. I've fixed the links in the master copy which is mirrored to www.debian.org. Thanks, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where is PGP-i or PGP-us ?
It seems that in Debian 1.1.7 pgp-i and pgp-up were in non-free pkgs, but in the newer dist' of Debian they are missing. Can some one tell me why they are missing and whre can I find them . Thanks. == Rosenberg Yigal. System Administrator. Tel: +(972)-3 5319367 Fax: +(972)-3 5313311 == -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Latex Help !
Jan Ramon wrote: On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, Andrew Stephen wrote: Hi, I have just started playing around with Latex and was wondering if its possible to to convert a dvi file into a Word for Windows format. Any help / suggestions would be appreciated. Regards, Andrew dvi to word seems difficult. I know a utility latex2wp (or wp2latex ?) for converting between wordperfect (5.1 ?) and latex (.tex-files). Perhaps you can use this in combination with wordperfect-word conversion ? Jan You can use latex2rtf (std. debian package) conversion program, and read RTF file into Word. Pawel. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SMP and /dev/cua_ and nfs module
Hi, yesterday I joined the SMP-community running 2.0.21 on a TYAN Tomcat II (yes, the working cache modules installed!) with two 133MHz Pentiums, some SCSI devices, and no network, yet. My Linux distribution is the lastest Debian 1.1.9. After compiling 2.0.21 I booted the new kernel with the following results: - Both CPUs were installed correctly - The kernel booted as usual (SCSI detection, ...) - BUT then I got a complete HANG after the message: Configuring serial ports ... (This is the moment where all the /dev/cua.'s are setup. Without SMP there are no problems at all.) Therefore I removed the corresponding 0setserial script from /etc/rc.boot (?, sorry, I'm not sure if this is the correct directory name ?). Then I rebooted and everything worked fine. SMP is up and running smoothly! Questions: - Is this a known conflict between SMP and 0setserial ? - What do I need this script for ? 2nd problem: - compiling SMP _and_ nfs as a module leads to : *** Unresolved symbols in module /lib/modules/2.0.21/fs/nfs.o (Without SMP are all symbols resolved.) Question: - Is this a known behaviour ? Thanks in advance, Michael P.S. To the SMP cracks: 2.0.14 and 0setserial yielded a hang, as well ... SMP profiling set _and_ unset, as well ... SMP kernel with modules _and_ without, as well ... -- === The opinions expressed above are solely those of the author and are not necessarily those of Schering. === NAME: Dr. Michael GrimmADDRESS: Schering AG EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IPCH/TCH PHONE: +49-30-468-5477 D-13342 Berlin FAX: +49-30-4691-6741 Germany === -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make-kpgk modules troubles
Hi Thomas -- A while ago you asked: Until recently, I just rolled my own kernel as I was used to do with Slackware. But since I found out about make-kpkg, I decided to do things the Debian way and use that instead. After much hassle wit the broken tar (solved by downgrading), there's still a problem: Whenever I try to make a modules package for my system, I end up with a message like Modules not configured, so not making modules. Then Joey Hess replied: Sorry, I can't help you with your problem, but this does raise a question in my mind: what exactly is the benefit of using the kernel-package vs. rolling your own kernel? The following might be useful input for both questions: make-kpkg provides a kernel-image package that can be managed and manipulated like other Debian packages. The accessibility of all the files involved in upgrading a kernel to the Debian tools is an advantage, especially if one is trying out many kernel configurations and/or versions. Once I run make-kpkg kernel_image it is very easy to make a new copy of the Debian boot disk, using the boot-floppies package: cd /usr/src/bootfloppies-1.1.1 ./bootdisk.sh kernel-image-2.0.whatever.deb /dev/fd0 1440 This makes a handy emergency boot disk (even though its initial primary design was for installation.) One can't use the boot floppies script without the kernel-image .deb file. HTH, Susan Kleinmann -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Suddenly: Can't locate module net-pf-4
This message has suddenly begun to appear whenever I run ifconfig. This was never noticed before, but apparently this has been logged into the daemon.log for awhile. Oct 1 17:15:55 modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-4 I haven't a clue as to what net-pf-4 is, or why ifconfig suddenly has developed a need for it, or suddenly gotten verbose about it. I have been installing and uninstalling some mail software, and perhaps some net software, but I cannot get a fix on this. Does this mean something to anyone? A clue for the clueless? -- Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001 Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands 15o 8.8'N 145o 42.5'E GMT+10 ``There is no evidence that an octopus can respond to sound, but the frequencies tried have been limited.'' ``Octopuses respond to such stimuli as shaking the tank, but the receptors responsible are probably not confined to the statocysts since the reaction continues after their removal'' ---J. Z. Young 1997---International Year of the Coral Reef -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
make-kpkg kernel_image fails
Hello, I tried to compile linux-2.0.21 (manually tar'ed to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.21 with a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux). So I invoked kernel-package-2.03 using the command make-kpkg -r kernel-image-2.0.21-Custom.1.i386.deb kernel_image This broke, however, with the following messages: make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.21/arch/i386/lib' make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.21' touch stamp-build make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.21' install -d -o root -g root -m 755 image-tmp/DEBIAN Error: Can't open display: -o make: *** [stamp-image] Error 1 This happened at the end of the compile. The kernel and the modules compiled well, and I installed them the traditional way with no further problems. I have to admit, that I configured a rather fat kernel with a lot of modules. The same process (same linux-2.0.21, same Debian 1.1.8) for my old office 386 DX33 (4 MB -- I use it just as a print server and as a news window ;-) succeeded with no problems after 16 hours of compile time in a kernel-image-2.0.21-Custom.1.i386.deb, which installed fine with dpkg. However, this was configured as a rather tiny kernel with only a few modules. Am I missing something? Or is there a bug with kernel-package-2.03? As a Slackware convertit, I am new to Debian (and like it ...), but I am a rather experienced Linux user. Should I write a bug report? I have no problems with this situation, since kernel 2.0.21 is up and running now -- but not the standard Debian way. So any hint would be welcome. Cheers KWS -- O##OO##O O##O O##O ==The famous SchwebebahnAA==suspension==AA===AA===railway===AA Dr. Karl-Wilhelm Schulte AA AA AA AA Bergische Univ.-GH/HRZ ,__AA__AA___AA_AA___. Gaussstr. 20 | || || || |X| |X| || || || | D-42097 Wuppertal | || || || |X| |X| || || || | Tel 0202/4392807,Fax -2910 |_|| ||___|| |X|_|X| ||___|| ||_| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | |X X| | | | | `==+=+=+=+X===X+=+=+=+==' -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Getting config from kernel
Joe Emenaker wrote: Okay, I sent this to the list once already, but I'm not sure it got through. I was hoping someone else would answer this, because I only have vague details in my head. (If we only used Debian at the office...) Can't help with the IP aliasing, but: So, I've resigned myself to recompiling the kernel. However, I'm worried that, during the QA of make config, I'll accidentally say no to a driver that I need. The way I'd really like to do this is to be able to somehow extract or ftp a copy of the config file used to make the stock debian kernel. 2 - Where is the information generated by make config kept? For example, suppose I forgot to compile in *one* crucial driver, and I don't want to go through the grueling QA that make config puts me through. Where can I make that one-line change and then go on to make depend, etc.? 3 - Is there any way I can extract or obtain a copy of what config was used to generate the 2.0.6 kernel that I'm using? A file called '.config' is generated at the top of your kernel source tree, which contains a list of all the selected compilation options from make config, make xconfig or make menuconfig, in the form IP_ALIASING=yes BLAH_BLAH=module FOOBARWIZ=no This file will still be there after you've compiled the kernel, so all you need to do is copy it to a safe location and drop it back in when you want to generate the same kernel. Casper Boden-Cummins. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Latex Help !
Hi, On 30 Sep 1996, Rob Browning wrote: Jan Ramon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe that there are also tools to go from LaTeX to Rich Text Format files which Word understands. I'm not sure what the name(s) of the tool(s) are though. latex2rtf (1)- Converts LaTeX file to RTF text-format -- Rob []s, mario Mario O.de Menezes -oo-O-oo - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Nuclear and Energetic Research Institute - IPEN-CNEN/SP | | BRAZIL - fone (+55) 011-816.9175 fax (+55) 011-8l6.9188 | | http://tucano.ipen.br - http://www.ipen.br/~mario/mario.html | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dselect problems
[Klippa, klapp, kluppit] Running dpkg -iGROEB /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386 find: /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386/admin/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb: No such file or directory find: /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386/base/mount_2.5l-1.deb: No such file or directory dpkg: subprocess find returned error exit status 1 installation script returned error exit status 1. Press RETURN to continue. In doing an ls -l of /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386/admin/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb there is a symbolic link to /cdrom/buzz-updates/binary-i386/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb. However when I go to /cdrom/buzz-updates/binary-i386/ directory the file sudo-1.4.4-2.deb is not there. The same applies to the mount_2.5l-1.deb file. Could you let me know why this is occuring and if there is any way of getting around this problem. Your suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance, Tejvanse Dhillon In spite of not knowing anything about the bad links problem, I'll try answer. It seems to me as if the symbolic links points a little wrong. Do ls -l /cdrom/buzz-updates/binary-i386/*/sudo* and see if you get any output. Suppose you see /cdrom/buzz-updates/binary-i386/admin/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb, then do ln -sf /cdrom/buzz-updates/binary-i386/admin/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb \ /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386/admin/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb and then rm /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386/admin/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb. Repeat for the second symbolic link. Ok? MartinS -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make-kpkg kernel_image fails
Hi -- You said: make-kpkg -r kernel-image-2.0.21-Custom.1.i386.deb kernel_image The -r flag takes the revision number as an argument, not the entire package name. Try make-kpkg -r Custom.1 or make-kpkg -r Custom-1 if the '.' is causing problems. BTW, make-kpkg expects that it will be invoked from a clean top level source directory. So if you've previously compiled in /usr/src/linux, then (I think) you need to execute make-kpkg clean before proceeding. Good luck, Susan Kleinmann -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Suddenly: Can't locate module net-pf-4 revisited.
This is an update to my earlier post. When I tried to install a newer version of the modules packages, from modules_2.0.0-11.deb, I was asked whether I wanted to install the package maintainer's version of the file /etc/conf.modules, I checked it out. There is a line in these files about net-pf-4. I therefore installed the package maintainer's new configuration file. But the message persists. I will try again after rebooting (obviously). -- Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001 Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands 15o 8.8'N 145o 42.5'E GMT+10 ``There is no evidence that an octopus can respond to sound, but the frequencies tried have been limited.'' ``Octopuses respond to such stimuli as shaking the tank, but the receptors responsible are probably not confined to the statocysts since the reaction continues after their removal'' ---J. Z. Young 1997---International Year of the Coral Reef -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting config from kernel
I'm trying to get IP aliasing going on my brand spankin' new Debian 1.1 box. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to have been compiled in, nor could I find a module for it in /lib/modules/current/ipv4. I just got this working... Pretty nifty feature if you ask me... So, a few questions: 1 - Any ideas on how to get ip_alias.o to load? Nope... 2 - Where is the information generated by make config kept? For example, suppose I forgot to compile in *one* crucial driver, and I don't want to go through the grueling QA that make config puts me through. Where can I make that one-line change and then go on to make depend, etc.? It's kept in linux/.config . I believe that make config actually looks at your current kernel to figure out a default if you don't already have a .config.. I say this because every time I compile a fresh kernel it already has 'Y' on the correct network card. Also, you should be able just modify the line or two in that file to turn on ip aliasing, given a working kernel source (ie. one that finds your network card.) Just my $.02 Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ircII.servers file
Hi, I've edited the ircII.servers file, but when I run irc (the version I took in the Debien distribution), it doesn't change anything in the servers list. I've compiled an irc-ii client, and the result is the same. AFAIK ircII is looking for /usr/lib/irc/ircII.servers if there is no Environment variable. This file should be a link to /etc/ircII.servers. I will fix this in 2.9.3roof (yes, the 3 is added handish, cause the words wont sort in the right order for versions). Greetings Bernd -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two system admin suggestions, where to post them?
Amos Shapira: and suchlike, I'd rather like to have a command to turn features off and on, like IRIX' chkconfig(8). The idea is that the init scripts use this command to check simple text files that contain off or on for each feature and act accordingly. A simple on/off is inadequate. I put a prototype I wrote recently on http://www.iki.fi/liw/programs/cfgtool.tar.gz (it's not there yet, but should be in about twelve hours). (Support for boolean and other data types is not in prototype, so you'd have to write it as: case `cfgtool --get has-x11` in yes)... ;; esac ) 2. I also miss the autologin feature from IRIX. _I_ would hate that. I've spent way too much to customize my xdm screen to like autologin. ;-) Seriously, sounds like a good idea for situations where console security is not required. -- Please read http://www.iki.fi/liw/mail-to-lasu.html before mailing me. Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list. pgphCc27QD8MW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Where is PGP-i or PGP-us ?
Rosenberg Yigal: It seems that in Debian 1.1.7 pgp-i and pgp-up were in non-free pkgs, but in the newer dist' of Debian they are missing. Can some one tell me why they are missing and whre can I find them . Problems with US International Trade in Arms Regulations (ITAR). Cryptographic programs require a license to export from the US. We're arranging an FTP site in the free world. Stay tuned. :-) -- Please read http://www.iki.fi/liw/mail-to-lasu.html before mailing me. Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list. pgpfGo70ZANLW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nvi error?
Hi Mike You wrote: does 'ls -al /tmp' turn up any vi looking directories that may have bad permissions on them? No, didn't see one. Btw, I've found the program 'strace' to be extremely useful in ttracking down stuff like this. Try strace -o output nvi somefile Here is the output: ---edited--- open(/usr/share/locale/C/LC_MESSAGES, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) brk(0x804d000) = 0x804d000 stat(/etc/locale/C/libc.cat, 0xb22c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat(/usr/lib/locale/C/libc.cat, 0xb22c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat(/usr/lib/locale/libc/C, 0xb22c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat(/usr/share/locale/C/libc.cat, 0xb22c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat(/usr/local/share/locale/C/libc.cat, 0xb22c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) --snip-- open(/usr/share/locale/C/LC_MESSAGES, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open(/usr/share/locale/C/LC_MONETARY, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open(/usr/share/locale/C/LC_COLLATE, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open(/usr/share/locale/C/LC_TIME, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open(/usr/share/locale/C/LC_NUMERIC, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open(/usr/share/locale/C/LC_CTYPE, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) --snip-- sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [HUP INT ALRM TERM WINCH], NULL) = 0 open(/dev/null, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0666) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [HUP INT ALRM TERM WINCH], NULL) = 0 --snip-- Okay, that's all the edited output that had error in it. First place I look to find these file was 'Contents' and only files that I could find was LC_* in wg15-locale_1-2.deb but they were not in /usr/share/locale/C/* and no packages use the directory. Others were not even able in other directories. And here is output of ls -al /deb/nu*: crwxr-xr-x 1 root sys1, 3 Dec 31 1969 /dev/null Is this look right? Thanks in advance, David p.s. If you need more information, tell me. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IMPORTANT] New package maintainer(s) needed!
Several people have indicated they might take over the ssh-package, so please stop flooding my mailbox. If that had happend a week or two earlier when i announced that i had to give up these packages, then i would not have withdrawn that package. Please note that i still need new maintainer(s) for amd, kbd and vlock. SSLeay may be considered dead, it wasn't useful without the missing SSL-FTP SSL-TELNET and SSL-Apache packages anyway (and it looked like it had severe problems too). Dominik -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The text above represents my personal opinion and does not represent the official position of my employer on the issue(s) discussed. Any official statement made on behalf of my employer by me is marked as such. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
scd0 not recog. as block dev. (what is insmod driver)
Dear Debian users, I am installing Debian 1.1.4. (So I am new to Debian.) I have a problem. Mouting cdrom (/dev/scd0) fails in `dselect`. In the reboot message after installation of BASE system, system says ... ncr53c8xx : at PCI bus 0, device 12, function 0 ... scsi0 : ncr53c8xx (rel 1.12a) scsi : 1 host. Vendor QUANTUM Model :TRB850S Type: ... Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Vendor TOSHIBA Model: Type: CD-ROM ... scsi : detected 1 SCSI disk total. ... It looks scsi driver is running without problem. Root partition in SCSI disk is mounted and accessible without problem. However, if I try to mount the cdrom # mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device (maybe `insmod driver`?) # The kernel is the one in buzz-updates/disk-i386/special-kernels and called boot1440_2.0.5-1.bin Is this kernel not suitable ? What is this insmod driver ? Please help me to mount SCSI CDROM. Thanks in advance. --- Toshinao Ishii Advanced Technology RD Center Mitsubishi Electric Corporation Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NeXTMail/MIME Welcome) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux SMP
Hi guys... I'm wondering if attempting to use Linux-SMP is any good. Afterall, for real efficiency, don't the programs/daemons/utilities have to be designed in such a way that they'll make use of SMP capabilities? For example, if I have sendmail, pop3d, httpd daemons running, on a dual processor system with SMP kernel, as compared to a single-processor system, would I gain much advantage? Let's say, for example, a dual-133 and a single-PPro200. My feeling is that for raw speed and efficiency, the PPro200 would easily win out... Now, due to the fact that most ISP usage is dependent on bandwidth limitations (meaning that a lot of the time the raw processor power won't do much good) what is your opinion on choosing a more effective system? Between say dual-133 or single-Pro200? I definitely feel that on internal processing, like compiling, using msql, etc, the Pro200 would by far be the better choice. Regards, Ricardo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: scd0 not recog. as block dev. (what is insmod driver)
At 09:54 PM 10/1/96 +0900, you wrote: Dear Debian users, I am installing Debian 1.1.4. (So I am new to Debian.) I have a problem. Mouting cdrom (/dev/scd0) fails in `dselect`. In the reboot message after installation of BASE system, system says ... ncr53c8xx : at PCI bus 0, device 12, function 0 ... scsi0 : ncr53c8xx (rel 1.12a) scsi : 1 host. Vendor QUANTUM Model :TRB850S Type: ... Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Vendor TOSHIBA Model: Type: CD-ROM ... scsi : detected 1 SCSI disk total. ... It looks scsi driver is running without problem. Root partition in SCSI disk is mounted and accessible without problem. However, if I try to mount the cdrom # mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device (maybe `insmod driver`?) # I take it that you've tried to insmod iso9660 and then try to mount the cdrom as you have there just above? When I re-installed Debian with my cdrom I had to do this and it worked. Regards, ...Karl -- Karl Ferguson, Tower Networking Pty Ltd (ACN: 072 322 760)[EMAIL PROTECTED] t/a STAR Online Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +61-9-455-3446 Fax: +61-9-455-2776 http://www.star.net.au/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFS user/group aliasing
Does anyone have a NFS filesystem for linux which allows the system manager to specify an alias file, such that UIDs and GIDs are converted from the NFS server numbering scheme to one provided by the client? I import NFS mounts from my local server, but they use GID numbers which conflict with those found in the standard debian /etc/groups file. I would rather not change the groups file in debian to match solaris... (ok, so I am a solaris hater). I am sure my problem is not uncommon, so before I consider reinventing the wheel I thought I would check to see if anyone has solved this already. I expect ugidd is the normal way to do this, but I would not be able to get my NFS server system manager to run this daemon (security you know). I half thought I could hack up the standard NFS client in the kernel to allow an alias file for GID conversions to be specified during the mount command, but this probably would not be a particularly clean solution. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Gordon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BusLogic SCSI
Hi, Anyone know if the Buslogic FlashPoint (wide scsi) controllers are supported? What is the price compared with Adaptec 2940UW? Thanks! Ricardo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
make-kpkg
Can anybody tell me where can i find make-kpkg ?? I've looked for it on my entire system and everything i've found is debian.rules in /usr/src/linux. From describtions on mailing-list i gues that it does this same thing as make-kpkg but am i only man in the world, who doesn't have this program? Leszek Gerwatowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xman
I cant find any package for xman. I scaned the package file and xman was only mentioned once in that file as a conflict with some other package. How could that be if xman dose not exist in debian ?? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make-kpgk modules troubles
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to offer the user the option of inserting a floppy and making a boot disk as part of the make-kpkg kernel_image? Or perhaps the ./bootdisk.sh kernel-images NOT to require the .deb format? I must admit I haven't given this a lot of thought. But I too was weaned on Slackware and am used to rolling my own. Jeff The following might be useful input for both questions: make-kpkg provides a kernel-image package that can be managed and manipulated like other Debian packages. The accessibility of all the files involved in upgrading a kernel to the Debian tools is an advantage, especially if one is trying out many kernel configurations and/or versions. Once I run make-kpkg kernel_image it is very easy to make a new copy of the Debian boot disk, using the boot-floppies package: cd /usr/src/bootfloppies-1.1.1 ./bootdisk.sh kernel-image-2.0.whatever.deb /dev/fd0 1440 This makes a handy emergency boot disk (even though its initial primary design was for installation.) One can't use the boot floppies script without the kernel-image .deb file. HTH, Susan Kleinmann -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xman
Kenneth Johansson wrote: I cant find any package for xman. Ever tried TkMan? If not, you're in for a treat (IMHO) if you don't mind loading tcl, tk and rman. -- ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: scd0 not recog. as block dev. (what is insmod driver)
Toshinao Ishii writes: It looks scsi driver is running without problem. Root partition in SCSI disk is mounted and accessible without problem. However, if I try to mount the cdrom # mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device (maybe `insmod driver`?) # Looks very similar to one of the problems I had. The CDROM driver is a module, which was not being installed because install failed to run depmod -a. Do depmod -a, and reboot. The kernel is the one in buzz-updates/disk-i386/special-kernels and called boot1440_2.0.5-1.bin Is this kernel not suitable ? What is this insmod driver ? Please help me to mount SCSI CDROM. insmod driver is pretty useless advice, isn't it? insmod is the command to insert a module. They are trying to say insmod driver, where driver stands for the module containing the driver for your CDROM drive. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sanyo cdrom (crd-256P)
A new debian installer has asked me to inquire whether anyone has experience with the subject cdrom unit - his installation won't recognize it. At this writing I have asked him to determine more e.g. - is it IDE - is it ATAPI - what debian version is being used But in the meantime I thought I'd see if this cdrom unit was familiar to someone here. Thanks for any input. Richard -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smail
ttrimble wrote: network. Now I want to run my listservers on the Debian box, but both Majordomo, and Listserv depend on smail for outbound mail, and smail keeps reporting errors that connection to the BIND server has failed. This is my setup for smail: set for Internet mail all outbound mail is to go to a smarthost Debian was configured for smail with no DNS Please can someone give me some advice, no matter what I try it just seems to get worse. You must also install a DNS server on one of the machines. -- Daniel == http://www.jax-inter.net/users/servo/ Organizer of Jax-LUG! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smail
Ok, I need help. I have a Debian box ver 1.1, I'm running smail on it. It does not have a ppp or slip connection to the Internet, therefore it has no real DNS ability, but it does connect via a network card to our mail server that is handling all mail for our network. Now I want to run my listservers on the Debian box, but both Majordomo, and Listserv depend on smail for outbound mail, and smail keeps reporting errors that connection to the BIND server has failed. This is my setup for smail: set for Internet mail all outbound mail is to go to a smarthost Debian was configured for smail with no DNS Please can someone give me some advice, no matter what I try it just seems to get worse. Thanks... Tim Trimble -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]