Re: inn / suck - help me!

1996-11-04 Thread Brian Mays
Paul Haggart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   Argh, this has caused me problems to no end!  Can someone please send me a
> working configuration for suck and inn?  

>   I can get suck to gather news and send it locally, but I can't figure out
> how to get locally written messages sent to my ISP's news server.  I don't
> want to use nntp-style reading, because I don't have a 24/7 connection.

This sounds like you need an entry in the `/etc/news/newsfeeds' file.
Here is what I use when sucking news to and from the NNTP server at
the Univ. of Va.:

ME:*,!control,!junk::
overview:*:Tc,WO:/usr/lib/news/bin/overchan
murdoch:/!local:Tf,Wn:news.virginia.edu

The NNTP server here is at the address `news.virginia.edu' and it adds
`murdoch' (the other name of the server) to the `Path' header.  With
these entries in the newsfeeds file, INN places the message id of any
article that needs to be sent to UVa's NNTP server to the
`/var/spool/news/.outgoing/news.virginia.edu' file.  Articles will be
marked as outgoing unless either

(1) the article contains `murdoch' in the Path (in which case it was
   "sucked" from UVa's server), or

(2) The article is marked for local distribution (via a Distribution
   header).

The get-news.inn script automatically posts messages listed in the
`/var/spool/news/.outgoing/' file to the remote NNTP
server. 

Here's a template that you can use for this file:

ME:*,!control,!junk::
overview:*:Tc,WO:/usr/lib/news/bin/overchan
:/!local:Tf,Wn:

where
= the entry that your ISP's news server places in the
`Path' header.
= the address of your ISP's news server as
listed in the `/etc/suck/get-news.conf' file.

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Mouse : can't locate module char-major-10

1996-11-04 Thread Andre Dewevre
Hello All,

I am new to Linux and of course new to the Debian distribution.

Recently I tried to install X on my box using the vga16 server.
When started, the server immediately die with a message
"Cannot open mouse : (no such device).

Because X is a rather complex package, I tried to troubleshoot 
my mouse problem using gpm. The result was the same as
with X, now the message is gpm : /dev/psmouse :  No shuch device.
Because psmouse is a symbolic link a also tried psaux and because
it still didn't work, I even tried /dev/msmouse and /dev/inportbm (in
fact this is a non-sense because my mouse is a PS-2 style).

The problem is not the mouse hardware, because under Windows95,
the same mouse on the same PC work ok. It is discovered as a PS/2
compatible mouse using interrupt 12.

The computer is a Gateway 2000 P100. I think they use an Intel
Alladin mother-board, but I am not completly sure. The mouse
is a Microsoft "Mouse Port Compatible 2.0"

I had also a look at /proc/devices and I didn't find any mouse device 
there. Also /proc/interrupts do not show any entry for interrupt 12.

Finally I found that every time a started X or gpm, I got an entry
in daemon.log : "modprobe : can't locate module  char-major-10

So it seems that I need to load a module for my mouse.
In /usr/lib/module_help/modules I found that modules
should exist for psaux and mouse, however I didn't find any
psaux.o or mouse.o on my system.

Now I am stuck. I only see two possibilities :

1)I really need to load psaux.o and mouse.o; but where can I found
  those files?

2)The mouse driver is build in the kernel and for some reason the 
mouse is not detected at boot-up. How can I force the mouse 
configuration?

I have really no idea which of those two possibilities is correct.
As I am new to Linux maybe I made a stupid mistake.

All the software was loaded from the stable subtree of the 
distribution. Kernel is 2.0.6.

Any help would be appraciated.

Thanks,

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Re: Running Debian

1996-11-04 Thread Neil Walker
Daniel Stringfield writes:
 > On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, George Bonser wrote:
 > 
 > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 > >Daniel Stringfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 > > > 
 > > > How about a SVGALIB based program?  That should fit on a floppy.
 > > > Now we have a possible three!:)  dselect, xselect, and vselect
 > > > ...cut
 >> 
 > NCURSES or SLANG, possibly? (isn't slang similiar to ncurses? Kick me if
 > its not)  OR like I said, something based on SVGAlib... (which does not
 > use X)
 > 
Have a look at SVGATextMode it's very good.
I got mine of a InfoMagic CD but its on Sunsite,
gives you whatever size screen you want for dselect,
I usually use 116x36.   




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Re: Keyboard mess

1996-11-04 Thread Vithar
On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Brian C. White wrote:

> Netscape runs _fine_ if you use the Debian installer package!  Actually,
> all you really need to do is point it to the existing XKeySymDB file.

  People have kept saying this and everyone assumes that the person asking
knows how to point Netscape to XKeySymDB.  First of all, I tried using
dselect to install Netscape.  Unfortunately, it insists on having version
3.0-beta4-1 and the only version I could get off of netscape was
3.01-beta1.  Dselect fails on the install.  The installation process
explicitly states not to just re-name another package.  So, I installed
Netscape by hand.   Now, having done this, I do not have any of the
app-config stuff or anything else for Netscape that the *.deb binary would
have taken care of.  So, how do I manually set up Netscape to point at
XKeySymDB ?  ( I know where/what XKeySymDB is, I just don't know how to
tell netscape to use it. )


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Re: imake config

1996-11-04 Thread joost witteveen
> 
> Where does one find 
> 
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config?

dpkg -S config
[..]
xdevel: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
[..]


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8-bit clean gpm

1996-11-04 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
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Hello.

I have switched from Slackware to Debian, and I'm impressed.

My problem: (well, one of my problems :-) gpm does not behave 8-bit clean,
which is a real pain for non-english languages. Is there any way to
configure it properly, or it is just a bug? [ Note: I'm using a console
font, having changed SOFTFONT in /etc/kbd/config ]. 

Thanks.

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Re: Rearranging partitions WAS: Re: Question??

1996-11-04 Thread David Puryear
Hi All,

> >  Not very good; you'll have problems with symlinks, special files in
> > /dev, etc. Try:
> >
> > umount /dev/hda1
> > mke2fs /dev/hda1
> > mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
> > umount /home
> > cd /
> > find ./ | grep -v /mnt/ | cpio -pdmv /mnt
> >
> > Edit lilo to point to your new root and reboot. After reboot:
> >
> > mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt
> > rm -rf /mnt/*
> > cd /usr
> > find ./ | cpio -pdmv /mnt
> > umount /mnt
> > rm -rf /usr
> > mkdir usr
> > mount /dev/hdb2 /usr
> >
> >  If you don't have enough space in /dev/hda1 to hold everything, you
> > can take a few more steps to copy directories individually instead of all
> > your tree. The key is to use cpio and to *always* exclude the destination
> > directory from the list of files to be copied (otherwise, you'll just
> > fill up your disk). Check the line
> >
> > "find ./ | grep -v /mnt/ | cpio -pdmv /mnt"
> >
> >  It tells you everything.
> >
> > See ya,
> > Nelson
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> 
> Three points:
> 
> 1. I didn't ask for help; it was [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Puryear) who asked,
>whose signature has been cut out. (And I'm lazy, but the mail reader I use
>doesn't put in those nice "On Fri, 13 Nov 1331, Anders Andersson wrote:"
>lines.
> 

Yes, it was me(David). Thanks everyone. There was lot of help. I ask
this not because I didn't read the man pages but to get ideas that are
not in the man pages. Sorry if it was dump question(which I'll have to
say not, since most debian users are new unix user and don't know all
the little things to make life easier).

Thanks to all,
David
p.s. Please don't expect me to not ask dump questions onces in a
while.:-)

> 2. Have you read cp's man page under debian. I suggest you do so. Look for
>"-a".
> 
> 3. If you still refuse do use "cp -a" then I would suggest the "tar -cpf -
>some dirs |(cd target; tar -xpf -)" method in stead of cpio. Only because
>I know tar's arguments and not cpio's.
> 
> Nitpicking at 26 rpm,
> 
> MartinS


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ETA of the new X packages

1996-11-04 Thread Bruce Perens
The person who is building X is expecting to upload them within the
next two weeks - he says sooner, I'm being conservative. The hold-up is
due to our packaging system going through some changes that require
editing of installation scripts. The X source builds 27 binary packages,
no surprise that some edits would be required.

This will be uploaded to "unstable" when it is ready. It will not be in
the code-freeze area for 1.2, but you will be able to install it on a
1.2 system without trouble.

The code-freeze for 1.2 happens today.

Bruce

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Re: Keyboard mess

1996-11-04 Thread Brian C. White
> > Netscape runs _fine_ if you use the Debian installer package!  Actually,
> > all you really need to do is point it to the existing XKeySymDB file.
> >
> > This probably the case for other Motif apps, too.
> 
> And how can we do this?

The netscape package is available under contrib.

To use the existing XKeysymDB file, either compile the app with the correct
directory or set the env var:

csh:setenv XKEYSYMDB /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB
bash:   set XKEYSYMDB="/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB"; export XKEYSYMDB
 
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Re: Keyboard mess

1996-11-04 Thread Gerry Jensen
On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Brian C. White wrote:

> > > I am using the latest version of Debian (brand new system installed
> > > yesterday). Is there something to be done to properly set up X?
> > 
> > I found that Debian/XFree86/whoever by default maps both the BS and Del
> > keys to , which is irritating with Netscape and when logging in on
> > other computers.
> > Netscape's problems are partially solved by overriding the  key
> > function to  in /etc/X11/Xresources.. however, still sending a
> >  when I want  to go over the line...
> 
> AR!!!
> 
> Netscape runs _fine_ if you use the Debian installer package!  Actually,
> all you really need to do is point it to the existing XKeySymDB file.

This makes the backspace key work as expected, but the delete key still
does not do what is expected, at least on my system. Both delete and
backspace are mapped to delete and both do the same thing (delete the
previous character). Does your delete key work right (delete the current
char instead of the previous)?

Gerry

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Re: xinitrc, X11, and cpp/GLUT

1996-11-04 Thread linh (l.) dang
 "larry" == "Larry 'Daffy' Daffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 larry> Fulko van Westrenen writes:
 -> For one or another strange reason initx fails to read ~/.xinitrc
 -> Does anyone know what the reason can be? All configurations look
 -> normal to me. My .fvwmrc is read without any
 -> problem. /etc/X11/config looks good to me. Do I need to check any
 -> other file?

 larry> First, you should probably be using startx, rather than
 larry> xinit. startx is configured to do things 'right' under the
 larry> Debian system.  Second, does your /etc/X11/config contain the

First startx doesn't seem to be configured to do things 'right' on my
Debian box.  I can start X with xinit but with startx the server just
starts and stops !!! I copied the old slackware .xinitrc and startx
works.

L.D.

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Re: Question??

1996-11-04 Thread James W. Lynch
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What about all of the plain files in /   ???

Jim.
> 
> On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Martin Stromberg wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > What do I need to consider when copying "/" to another partition? Reason
> > > I ask is I would like to put it in partition which had dos. Here is what
> > > I would like to do:
> > > 
> > > Old setup:
> > > 
> > > hda1 -- dos
> > > hdb1 -- swap
> > > hdb2 -- /
> > > hdb3 -- /home
> > > 
> > > New setup:
> > > 
> > > hda1 -- / {/etc, /boot, /bin, /lib, /sbin, /proc, /var, /tmp, /cdrom,
> > > /mnt,
> > > /floppy}
> > > hdb1 -- swap
> > > hdb2 -- /usr
> > > hdb3 -- /home
> > >  
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > David
> > > 
> > 
> > Well, this is how I would do it, supposing you don't have anything on that 
> > FAT
> > partition you want to keep.
> > 
> > umount /dev/hda1
> > mke2fs /dev/hda1
> > mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
> > cp -a /etc /boot /bin /lib /sbin /var /tmp /cdrom /floppy /mnt
> > mkdir /mnt/proc
> > Edit /mnt/etc/lilo.conf so it's using hda1 instead of hdb2 and run lilo.
> > Edit /mnt/etc/fstab to reflect the changes.
> > Reboot. Now the system ought to boot having the hda1 partition as / and the
> > previous / on /usr.
> > cd /usr
> > rm -fr etc boot bin lib sbin proc var tmp cdrom mnt
> > mv usr/* usr/.??* .
> > rm -fr usr
> > 
> > 
> > Anybody seeing something I've missed? Please say so! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hack,
> > 
> > MartinS
> > 
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dselect problem

1996-11-04 Thread Rafael Torres
Hi,

   I'm working with Debian 1.1 and since last week, when I want to
install a .deb packages via ftp, I receive the following message:

Processing status file...
Odd number of elements in hash list at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install line 
75,
 chunk 6898

   Please, What can I do to solve this problem???

Thanks

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Re: nm /lib/libc.so

1996-11-04 Thread David Engel
Bernd Eckenfels writes:
> some softwre PAckages run nm on libc to get the available functions. This
> wont work with ELF anymore. nm only prints symbols for .a files. Arent the
> symbols in .so needed for linking?

You have to use 'nm -D'.

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nm /lib/libc.so

1996-11-04 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hi,

some softwre PAckages run nm on libc to get the available functions. This
wont work with ELF anymore. nm only prints symbols for .a files. Arent the
symbols in .so needed for linking?

Greetings
Bernd
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Re: cpio WAS: Rearranging partitions

1996-11-04 Thread Martin Stromberg
> 
>  > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 00:29:32 -
>  > From: Nelson Posse Lago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > To: Martin Stromberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>  > Subject: Rearranging partitions WAS: Re: Question??
> 
>  > find ./ | grep -v /mnt/ | cpio -pdmv /mnt
> 
> Thank you!  Wonderful syntax, and demo of several nuances that have 
> escaped me until this day.  I got out the man pages for grep and cpio, 
> and decoded the above, to learn how it does what I correctly intuited it 
> would do.
> 
> Could you briefly summarize why cp -a or tar -cvf are inappropriate or 
> less functional?

In my opinion they aren't any less functional. I've even read that 
"tar -cpf - /|(cd /mnt; tar -xpf -)" manages to avoid going into a loop
with regard to /mnt! I haven't verified this but I'm not surprised - GNU
software is the way to go!

The con regarding "cp -a" is that it's GNU cp. Versions on other systems 
fuck up symbolic links e. g. 

The pro regarding tar is, there is one on every system, and combining two tars 
with pipes works everywhere (to my knowledge). This makes tar ideal for
scripts that must work on all platforms.

>   Can an unmounted(*1) root filesystem be successfully 
> mirrored, identical to the original, on a target partition with a new 
> filesystem -- using cp -a or the tar -cvf (*2) method?

The answer is yes. Both can do that.

> 
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> (*2) and corresponding tar -xvf method, to extract as target
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Re: tail -f /var/adm/messages

1996-11-04 Thread Simon Martin

You probably set the debug flag on diald. At least this is the output I got
when I did that.

"Simon Martin"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: tail -f /var/adm/messages
Date: 03 November 1996 07:00

What did I do to get the following output from  "tail -f
/var/adm/messages"?

Nov  3 12:44:01 Johann last message repeated 65817 times
Nov  3 12:45:01 Johann last message repeated 66331 times
Nov  3 12:46:01 Johann last message repeated 66326 times
Nov  3 12:47:01 Johann last message repeated 63128 times
Nov  3 12:48:01 Johann last message repeated 50075 times
Nov  3 12:49:01 Johann last message repeated 54363 times
Nov  3 12:50:01 Johann last message repeated 61691 times

At first it worked well while I was trying to debug my ppp-script
(which btw I so far did not succceed with).  I changed some
file-permissions as a result of the output of the messages-file.  

At the moment the above output is all that I get.


Can somebody help, please?


Johann Spies

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Re: Rearranging partitions WAS: Re: Question??

1996-11-04 Thread Martin Stromberg
> 
> On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Martin Stromberg wrote:
> 
> > > What do I need to consider when copying "/" to another partition? Reason
> > > I ask is I would like to put it in partition which had dos. Here is what
> > > I would like to do:
> > > 
> > > Old setup:
> > > 
> > > hda1 -- dos
> > > hdb1 -- swap
> > > hdb2 -- /
> > > hdb3 -- /home
> > > 
> > > New setup:
> > > 
> > > hda1 -- / {/etc, /boot, /bin, /lib, /sbin, /proc, /var, /tmp, /cdrom,
> > > /mnt,
> > > /floppy}
> > > hdb1 -- swap
> > > hdb2 -- /usr
> > > hdb3 -- /home
> > >  
> > 
> > Well, this is how I would do it, supposing you don't have anything on that 
> > FAT
> > partition you want to keep.
> > 
> > umount /dev/hda1
> > mke2fs /dev/hda1
> > mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
> > cp -a /etc /boot /bin /lib /sbin /var /tmp /cdrom /floppy /mnt

As another awake reader noticed: I forgot /dev. The previous line should be 
"cp -a /dev /etc /boot /bin /lib /sbin /var /tmp /cdrom /floppy /mnt".

> > mkdir /mnt/proc
> > Edit /mnt/etc/lilo.conf so it's using hda1 instead of hdb2 and run lilo.
> > Edit /mnt/etc/fstab to reflect the changes.
> > Reboot. Now the system ought to boot having the hda1 partition as / and the
> > previous / on /usr.
> > cd /usr
> > rm -fr etc boot bin lib sbin proc var tmp cdrom mnt
> > mv usr/* usr/.??* .
> > rm -fr usr
> 
>  Not very good; you'll have problems with symlinks, special files in 
> /dev, etc. Try:
> 
> umount /dev/hda1
> mke2fs /dev/hda1
> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
> umount /home
> cd /
> find ./ | grep -v /mnt/ | cpio -pdmv /mnt
> 
> Edit lilo to point to your new root and reboot. After reboot:
> 
> mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt
> rm -rf /mnt/*
> cd /usr
> find ./ | cpio -pdmv /mnt
> umount /mnt
> rm -rf /usr
> mkdir usr
> mount /dev/hdb2 /usr
> 
>  If you don't have enough space in /dev/hda1 to hold everything, you 
> can take a few more steps to copy directories individually instead of all 
> your tree. The key is to use cpio and to *always* exclude the destination 
> directory from the list of files to be copied (otherwise, you'll just 
> fill up your disk). Check the line
> 
> "find ./ | grep -v /mnt/ | cpio -pdmv /mnt"
> 
>  It tells you everything.
> 
> See ya,
> Nelson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

Three points:

1. I didn't ask for help; it was [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Puryear) who asked,
   whose signature has been cut out. (And I'm lazy, but the mail reader I use
   doesn't put in those nice "On Fri, 13 Nov 1331, Anders Andersson wrote:"
   lines.)

2. Have you read cp's man page under debian. I suggest you do so. Look for
   "-a".

3. If you still refuse do use "cp -a" then I would suggest the "tar -cpf -
   some dirs |(cd target; tar -xpf -)" method in stead of cpio. Only because
   I know tar's arguments and not cpio's.


Nitpicking at 26 rpm,

MartinS

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Re: Hylafax packages?

1996-11-04 Thread Dermot Bradley
On 3 Nov 1996, Robert Nicholson wrote:

> Somebody a few weeks ago had mentioned that they were preparing hylafax
> as packages?

That was myself. I was almost finished and then I discovered debmake :-) 
I've spent the past week or so getting to grips with it.

The finished packages should be available in a matter of days.

Dermot

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Re: Running Debian

1996-11-04 Thread John Hasler
Fabien Ninoles writes:
> Agree with the principle of a bare-bone select for installation and a
> more pleasant for a complete installation and see no trouble to have the
> two (or three) in a distribution. But I have to disagree to the principe
> to replace the info with colors. Used them to enhance an information but
> not to provide it.

Please fix it before you improve it.  First make it right, then make it
pretty. 

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Re: inn / suck - help me!

1996-11-04 Thread Nick Busigin
On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Paul Haggart wrote:

>   Argh, this has caused me problems to no end!  Can someone please send me a
> working configuration for suck and inn?  
> 
>   I can get suck to gather news and send it locally, but I can't figure out
> how to get locally written messages sent to my ISP's news server.  I don't
> want to use nntp-style reading, because I don't have a 24/7 connection.
> 
>   Thanks in advance.

I use suck with CNews locally and INN on the remote system which feeds me.
CNews creates a /var/spool/news/out.going/sentex/togo file which contains
references to the articles that are to be sent out to my ISP (sentex).
If you use INN locally, I think that things should work similarly as far
as getting locally posted messages to your ISP's news server. (At least
the relevant portions of the get-news.cnews and get-news.inn looked
very similar).

(I used dpkg -i suck_2.6.3-1.deb)

Here's the files I've had to configure:

1)  I set up a /etc/suck/get-news.conf file with the following entries:

server: xwing.xwing.org
remoteserver: news.sentex.net
outgoingfile: sentex

2)  I set up the required /etc/suck/sucknewsrc file.  Here's its
(partial) contents:

alt.comp.hardware 2096
alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt 24343
alt.comp.hardware.homedesigned 702
alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt 8334
alt.fishing 40064
alt.folklore.computers 156001

3)  I had to customize some paths in the /usr/sbin/get-news.cnews
file.  Note that I've added a number of echo statements in order
to verify that all the paths that get-news needed were correct.
They weren't on first try.  Here's the contents of this file:

#!/bin/sh
# NOTE: this script probably needs to be run by root.
# Most systems will not let a normal user run rnews

LOCAL_HOST=`cat /etc/suck/get-news.conf | grep "^server:" \
| awk '{gsub(" ","");print}' | cut -c8-`
REMOTE_HOST=`cat /etc/suck/get-news.conf | grep "^remoteserver:" \
| awk '{gsub(" ","");print}' | cut -c14-`
SITE=`cat /etc/suck/get-news.conf | grep "^outgoingfile:" \
| awk '{gsub(" ","");print}' | cut -c14-`

echo "LOCAL_HOST is ${LOCAL_HOST}"
echo "REMOTE_HOST is ${REMOTE_HOST}"
echo "SITE is ${SITE}"

SPOOLDIR=/var/spool/news# base directory for articles to be 
rposted
NEWSDIR=/usr/lib/news   # base directory for news binaries 
BINDIR=/usr/bin # base directory for suck rpost and 
scripts
SBINDIR=/usr/sbin   # base directory for scripts (Added 
this Nov. 3/96)

TMPDIR=/tmp # location for suck.* files
DATADIR=/etc/suck   # location of sucknewsrc and killfile
MSGDIR=/var/lib/suck# where to put MultiFile articles when 
getting them

BATCHFILE=${TMPDIR}/batch.$$# Name of batchfile to build for rnews 
or innxmit
OUTGOING=${SPOOLDIR}/out.going/${SITE}/togo # location of the list of 
articles to upload

echo "OUTGOING is ${OUTGOING}"
echo "SPOOLDIR is ${SPOOLDIR}"

SCRIPT=${SBINDIR}/put-news  # my filter for rpost
OUTFILE=${TMPDIR}/suck-tmp.$$   # used by rpost as article after it is 
filtered

echo "OUTFILE is ${OUTFILE}"
echo "SCRIPT is ${SCRIPT}, used as filter for rpost"
echo "filter output file is \$\$o=${OUTFILE}"

RPOST=${BINDIR}/rpost   # my rpost
SUCK=${BINDIR}/suck # my suck
TESTHOST=${BINDIR}/testhost # my testhost

RNEWS=/usr/lib/news/input/rnews # location of rnews

# is the local host up and running so we can post articles we download?
${TESTHOST} ${LOCAL_HOST} > /dev/null 2>&1
LOCAL_RESULT=$?

# is the remote host up and running so we can download articles?
${TESTHOST} ${REMOTE_HOST} > /dev/null 2>&1
REMOTE_RESULT=$?

if [ ${REMOTE_RESULT} -eq 0 -a ${LOCAL_RESULT} -eq 0 ]; then

# download articles
#if using rnews change the -bi to -br
${SUCK} ${REMOTE_HOST} -br ${BATCHFILE} -dt ${TMPDIR} -dm ${MSGDIR} -dd 
${DATADIR}
SUCK_STATUS=$?

if [ ${SUCK_STATUS} -eq 0 ]; then
echo "Downloaded Articles"
mv ${DATADIR}/sucknewsrc ${DATADIR}/old.newsrc
mv ${TMPDIR}/suck.newrc ${DATADIR}/sucknewsrc
rm ${TMPDIR}/suck.*
if [ -f ${DATADIR}/suckothermsgs ]; then
rm ${DATADIR}/suckothermsgs
fi
fi

# now upload articles
if [ -s ${OUTGOING} ]; then
# outgoing articles to post
${RPOST} ${REMOTE_HOST} -b ${OUTGOING} -p ${SPOOLDIR} -f 
\$\$o=${OUTFILE} ${SCRIPT} \$\$i ${OUTFILE}

if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
echo "Error remote posting"
exit -1;
else
echo "Remotely posted articles"
rm ${OUTFILE} ${OUTGOING}
fi
fi  

echo "You can hang up the modem now"

if [ ${SUCK_S

perl 5.003.07-1 breaks Yard 1.7

1996-11-04 Thread Arrigo Triulzi
Hello all,

there seems to be a problem with the latest (on my mirror ;-)
version of perl, 5.003.07-1, and Yard 1.7. With the previous version
there were no problems, now Yard 1.7 bombs with

Can't locate object method "autoflush" via package "IO::Handle" at
./make_root_fs line 37.

even though there is a

use FileHandle;

in the file.

Thanks,

Arrigo
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Rex updating error (second times).

1996-11-04 Thread Sulyok Peter
Hi all,

When I tried to update my old rex installation I got the next error
message from update menu in dselect.

> Uncompressing /install/Debian/stable/binary-i386/Packages.gz ... stdin:
> not in compressed format
>
> update available list script returned error exit status 1.
> Press RETURN to continue.

I checked the Packages.gz file. It was fine. What is the reason of it ?
Any idea in connection with it ?

Thanks.

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NIS ypxfr of hosts.{byaddr,byname}

1996-11-04 Thread Arrigo Triulzi
Second attempt... the first one went with no reply.

Hello all,

the problem is with a slave YP (NIS) server, a Linux box
running Debian, and a SunOS box serving the maps. ypxfr manages to
grab all maps _except_ the hosts.{byaddr,byname} which returns a DBM
error on the Linux machine:

# /usr/lib/yp/ypxfr -f  -h ypserver hosts.byaddr
ypxfr: Local dbm operation failed

Any suggestions are welcome.

Ciao,

Arrigo

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Re: [Poss. Solved] gsfonts 4.01-3

1996-11-04 Thread Arrigo Triulzi
joost witteveen scripsit:
|That works, but it's better to upgrade to gs-aladdin_4.03-4 or
|gs_3.33-2. That also solves it.

Absolutely true, only that my mirror didn't have it on Friday ;-) I
have now upgraded and fixed it the "proper" way.

Thanks,

Arrigo

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Re: gsfonts -answer

1996-11-04 Thread Reijo Hyvärinen
PLEASE DON`T MAIL ME NEVER !!!
I AM NOT DEBIAN (LINUX) PROFESSIONAL !!!

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Re: Fvwm2 question

1996-11-04 Thread Larry 'Daffy' Daffner

David Puryear writes:
-> I used to use fvwm with NoPPosition and SmartPlacement in system.fvwmrc.
-> I tried to use same thing in fvwm2 and it doesn't work. Any ideas as to
-> how I can use them in fvwm2?

Both of these have become options to the Style command, so that they
can be enforced on a per-window basis. So, do:

Style * NoPPosition
Style * SmartPlacement

-Larry

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inn / suck - help me!

1996-11-04 Thread Paul Haggart

  Argh, this has caused me problems to no end!  Can someone please send me a
working configuration for suck and inn?  

  I can get suck to gather news and send it locally, but I can't figure out
how to get locally written messages sent to my ISP's news server.  I don't
want to use nntp-style reading, because I don't have a 24/7 connection.

  Thanks in advance.

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Re: Running Debian

1996-11-04 Thread George Bonser
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Fabien Ninoles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Agree with the principle of a bare-bone select for installation and a more
> pleasant for a complete installation and see no trouble to have the two
> (or three) in a distribution. But I have to disagree to the principe to 
> replace the info with colors. Used them to enhance an information but not
> to provide it.

I suppose I can agree with that. There should be additional visual clues
other than color to convey information. The system shoould be useable on 
systems with monochrome displays and by individuals with poor color vision.


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Re: Keyboard mess

1996-11-04 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Brian C. White wrote:

> 
> Netscape runs _fine_ if you use the Debian installer package!  Actually,
> all you really need to do is point it to the existing XKeySymDB file.
> 
> This probably the case for other Motif apps, too.
>  

And how can we do this?

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Re: Running Debian

1996-11-04 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, George Bonser wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Daniel Stringfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > How about a SVGALIB based program?  That should fit on a floppy.
> > Now we have a possible three!:)  dselect, xselect, and vselect
> > 
> 
> Kind of like make config, make menuconfig and make xconfig
> 
> I agree that there should be some kind of bare-bones select for installation
> but I think dselect has gotten to the 10-lbs in a 5-lb bag stage. I would
> go for a select that installs the required packages then runs mselect 
> (menu-select) or xselect to pick and choose the other stuff.
> 
> Colors can be useful to convey information without additional characters
> causing information overload though that would limit the utility of the 
> program for people with poor color vision. Red in uppercase meaning purge,
> red in lowercase meaning remove, yellow meaning dependancy problem (uppercase
> is required, lowercase suggest), green means add or install, white or black
> means hold and blue means that the package has a newer version available but
> is not currently selected to be changed.
> 
> 
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Agree with the principle of a bare-bone select for installation and a more
pleasant for a complete installation and see no trouble to have the two
(or three) in a distribution. But I have to disagree to the principe to 
replace the info with colors. Used them to enhance an information but not
to provide it.

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Re: Is there a .deb package for Netscape ?

1996-11-04 Thread Christoph Lameter
Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:   sun\bject line pretty much says it all. I like the debian
: install mechanisim!
Yes. There is. Why do you ask? Look on the ftp site.

Debian has more than 800 packages in rex which is soon to be released. You are 
bound to find
almost everything you can think of there.
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Re: Keyboard mess

1996-11-04 Thread Brian C. White
> > I am using the latest version of Debian (brand new system installed
> > yesterday). Is there something to be done to properly set up X?
> 
> I found that Debian/XFree86/whoever by default maps both the BS and Del
> keys to , which is irritating with Netscape and when logging in on
> other computers.
> Netscape's problems are partially solved by overriding the  key
> function to  in /etc/X11/Xresources.. however, still sending a
>  when I want  to go over the line...

AR!!!

Netscape runs _fine_ if you use the Debian installer package!  Actually,
all you really need to do is point it to the existing XKeySymDB file.

This probably the case for other Motif apps, too.
 
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