Re: Installing large files

1996-12-12 Thread Bruce Perens
From: "Jens B. Jorgensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> U, yeah sure, if only you could find a Linux port of LapLink or
> Intersvr... Linux has PLIP too but I don't think you can get PLIP for
> DOS. 

I think this was getting a bit confused.

If you have a Laplink Cable, you can use the Laplink Cable to connect
the Windows 95 system and the Linux system via PPP. My local computer
store sells "Laplink" cables, actually null-modem serial cables, for a
reasonable price, so maybe you can find them. Run Linux as the PPP
server and Windows as the PPP client. Start with the serial connection
at 9600 baud, and then see how fast you can go. You may be able to get
it working at 115,200.

I gatewayed my wife's Windows 95 system to the Internet via my Linux
system using a 30-foot serial cable and this scheme for a while. Then
I bought two thin-net cards.

Bruce

> > I would reccommend using a null-modem serial connection between your
> > laptop
> > and the machine which has the debian files. The newer versions of 95's
> > dialup
> > networking support this. Just get ppp set up on the laptop and proceed
> > from there.
> Even better, if you have a program like LapLink, or DOS's Intersvr and
> Interlnk, you can use a null parallel cable.  It's amazingly faster.
> 
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Repost: some experiences of a Rex installation

1996-12-12 Thread Esa Turtiainen

Did this ever made to the list. I have got some confusing
automatic messages.

Esa


I have installed two machines from the current Rex distribution.
The distribution was aligned on Monday to my mirror FTP.FUNET.FI
that is usually quite up-to-date. There has not been modifications
in the mirror this week any more and so I hope to have the final one.

The base set of the system was installed last week with
previous boot set (28-11). I had some problems but I uderstood that
they should be solved by now.

I found the following dependency problems:
 - gs-aladdin should depend on libpng1
(shouldn't the non-free be frozen with rex?)
 - kbd recommends too strongly on svgatextmode
there are all kind of problems with svgatextmode 
especially in internationalization and I do not
want to use it yet
(forcing kbd without svgatextmode works fine)
- mc should depend on libgpm1

And some likely bugs:

svgatextmode: 8-bit international ISO Latin 1 characters are displayed
incorrectly in all the fonts I tried.

X: The keyboard maps of XKB extension of XFree 3.2 are not working
really well. If you select Finnish from menu you are not going to get
the right map. It seems that if you
- run new xf86config (keyboard do not work with old)
- but do *not* select keyboard extension in the configuration
then you'll get the right keyboard map from the kbd package.
(In fact, the resulting keymap is the best I have ever managed
to get to work in X with *all* the right dead keys.)
I do not have any xmodmap settings.

msql: it tries to send messages to the msql user which it has
correctly created but forgotten to create /var/spool/mail/msql which
means that smail stores the message in 'error' subdirectory.  The error
message email repeats at 15 second interval.  The message says "Can't
start server : UNIX bind : Permission denied".  The reason may be the
permission problems of the '/tmp' being root.root rwxr-xr-x after the
base installation. This generates an interesting amount of trash mail
files.

Updatedb is never run. The likely reson is that cron seems to die.

One interesting note is that I must *not* have bind installed to get
NFS partitions mounted in the boot. If I have local DNS it is not up
yet and the server names are not resolved at all (in a small installation
they are in /etc/hosts but I have decided not to do that). If I do not
have local bind, it correctly asks tha names from configured external
nameservers.

BTW: I have tried to use network masks in /etc/export. I have got them
to work in *the last line* of the file. If I have three lines in the
file, just the third export allows mounts according the mask.

BTW2: Are you sure that nameservers should be separated with comma
in /etc/resolv.conf like suggested in the boot set dialog. I have
used just blank and it seems to work. Never tried comma.

I would be happy with CD drivers in the kernel if there would be a way
to disable autodetection of the devices that are not there. Is there a
boot option to do that? Space is not such a big issue anymore.

I have not found xload yet. fvwm95 is missing it. The old configuration
file is missing xterm_color as well but it seems to be obsolete now(?)
(I prefer this, the green cursor is awful.)

Esa

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Sound Card

1996-12-12 Thread J. LILLIBRIDGE
Hi.  I've been running Debian 1.1 for a few months now.  I haven't had
any problems, except I can't get the sound card to work.  Actually, it
is a modem/sound combination card.  The modem part works, and I can
listen to audio cd's, but I can't play audio files.  I recently
upgraded to the 2.0.23 kernel, and it gave a little more descriptive
info on bootup:

sound sb: Interrupt test on IRQ7 failed - device disabled

How would I go about getting this sucker to work?  Thanks.

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Re: What package do I need ? (libXpm.so.4)

1996-12-12 Thread David Puryear
Hi David,

You wrote:
> 
>  Hello all...
> 
>Installed the new 1.2 - loved it...
> 
> 1) did any body else out there notice some funky things going on
>  inside the drivers/modules selection menu? It worked but there was
>  some strange goings on when I moved the selection bar up and down.
> 
> 2) also - I installed the xfree packages. The new GUI setup app is
>  great.
> 
> 3) but after installing the fvwm2 & afterstep Window managers. I
>  get:
> 
>  fvwm2: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4'.
>  afterstep: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4'
> 
>  What package do I need to install to get this lib?

You need 'xpm4.7' and it's in ~/x11/ directory.
May be there should be bug report on those packages.

Later,
David


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Problems with 3com509B network card.

1996-12-12 Thread J. Ramos Goncalves

I had two wd8013 cards installed in my machine (Bo distribution).
My customer kernel 2.0.27 has support for both 3com and wd8013
network cards. I had to replace one of the wd8013 by a 3com509B. 
Both cards are recognized at boot but the 3com509B is not working 
although the wd8013 one does. The route and ifconfig configurations 
are fine because they were working before with the two wd8013 cards. 
Does anyone has a clue about what the problem might be?
Sorry for sending this message to Debian user list, but I
remember seeing two other messages today about problems with
the 3com509B card.

Thanks for any help.


Ramos.

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Re: PGP

1996-12-12 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hello,

> I'm not sure about PGP, but DES actually gets _weaker_ if encrypted with
> two keys.  Three keys does make it much stronger, though, as you say.

actually encrypting 3 times with keys of size n if never stronger as
encrypting one tome with keysize n*3 (if there is no waekness in the
algorithm for special keysizes). The reason why 3DES exists at all is simply
because the keysize of DES (56) was too small for nowadays needs and it IS
hard to find new secure methods. There is no proof that 3DES is as strong as
a modified DES with 168 bit would be. It is expected that it is weaker, and
that it is much slower. Using Algorithms like IDEA or others which support
larger keys is the better solution. Thats one reason why PGP does not use
DES or 3DES.

Greetings
Bernd


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Re: Re[2]: PGP

1996-12-12 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hello,

>  The International Version of PGP is a slightly modified algorithm with 
>  fewer bits.

No. This is not true at all. The international PGP Version has the same
algorithms with the same number of bits. There is completely no difference
between the algortihms used. In facte the International Version was capable
to build Larger Keys than the american one.

The Reason for this is that RSA in america requires all to use RSAREF
library for non-commercial use. There is a european rewrite of this RSA lib.
Because it is a rewrite there are no copyright problems with the lib.
Because it is not in america u r free to use RSA, cause the RSA patent is
only (if at all) valid in the states.

The Block chifre used in PGP (IDEA) is developed in Swiss and uses 128Bit in
the international and american Version.

>  Currently, it is illegal under the Data Encryption and 
>  Privacy Act (modified) of 1995 to export encryption programs which use 
>  56+ bits outside the United States.

IMHO is the limit 40Bits for Block chifres. Anyway, it IS illegal to export
PPG from the sates (even if that is totally nonsense, since the encrypting
algorithms are developed in the free world.)


>  1) encrypt with key 1
>  2) decrypt with key 2
>  3) encrypt with key 3

For most existing encryption algorithms there is no proof that will show you
that u r realy more secure with that.

>  Wish everyone all the luck in the world to crack that.  Even a machine 
>  capable of a billion processes per second would have to have a million 
>  such processers in order to break even 30bit keys in less time than 
>  the universe is old!

Of course the algorithm which uses 3x30 Bits is considered an algorithm with
90bits and illegal to export, too.

BTW: afaik is the RSA License valid on US therretory not for US citizens.
This is just like even in the states german citizens have to drive like US
Law says.

a) it is illegal to use PGP-i without RSAref in the states due to RSA Inc.
   beeing the patent holder for RSA and requires to use RSAref.

b) is is illegal to use PGP outside of USA, due to the copyright of RSAI on
   RSAREF.

c) it is illeagl to export PGP from US, due to ITAR rules.

d) it IS should be legal to use PGP-i with RSAREF in the states. Just 
   recompile.

e) ASCON ZH has the (even in europe) valid patent on IDEA and can charge
fees for commercial PGP usage (in the staes and in europe). AFAIK the will
not yet charge fees in Europe, since there is no commercial Distributor in
Europe and they don't want to mess with small money amounts of thousands of
commercial endusers.

Greetings
Bernd
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Re: Installing large files

1996-12-12 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Allan Anderson wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
> 
> > Fred Zarnowski wrote:
> > >
> > > I am trying to install Debian on a laptop with no network connection and 
> > > no
> > > CDROM. I have been ftp'ing files to a W95 desktop then sneaker net via
> > > floppy to the laptop. Unfortunately, I haven't solved large files like
> > > Xbase that won't fit on a 1.44 floppy. I did get minicom going on the
> > > laptop so I could download from a BBS if I could find one.
> > >
> > > I would appreciate any suggestions or comments. Thanks.
> >
> > I would reccommend using a null-modem serial connection between your
> > laptop
> > and the machine which has the debian files. The newer versions of 95's
> > dialup
> > networking support this. Just get ppp set up on the laptop and proceed
> > from there.
> Even better, if you have a program like LapLink, or DOS's Intersvr and
> Interlnk, you can use a null parallel cable.  It's amazingly faster.
> 

U, yeah sure, if only you could find a Linux port of LapLink or
Intersvr...
Linux has PLIP too but I don't think you can get PLIP for DOS. 

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Re: how to get a bash shell with the new install floppies (Re: new boot floppies being uploaded)

1996-12-12 Thread Daniel Stringfield
On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Craig Sanders wrote:

> i've had the dubious pleasure of running into the same problem on
> a variety of machines (mainly because the hardware supplier seems
> completely unable to provide the same motherboards in each new batch of
> machines).  486 motherboards are starting to be hard to get...a shame,
> 486s or amd 586s are perfectly suited to what i'm builing these boxes
> for (dialin servers for staff & students at various schools)...Pentium
> would be overkill and significantly more expensive.
> 
> There have been a few pentium boxes.  award bios.
> 
> The 6 most recent boxes (5 built and installed on site since monday - a
> busy week!) have all been AMD 586-133 machines.  Some with Award bios,
> some with Phoenix bios, and some with the bletcherous AMI graphical
> bios.  All motherboards have been PCI.  Some Plug'n'Pray.  
> 
> MBR hasn't worked on *any* of them.
> 
> In other words there is such a complete failure to work on any of the
> machine I've tried it on that I must admit to being a little surprised that
> MBR works for anyone.  But, nobody else seems to be reporting any problems
> with it so it must be something i'm doing.
> 
> I remember that MBR used to work on the first debian 0.97 or was it 1.1 
> machines that I built.  I suspect it may be the Maximise partition option
> in cfdisk.  Partly because it's the only thing i can think of which might
> be doing weird things to the partition table and partly because i 
> remember that i used to use normal fdisk which didn't have that
> option.  I'll try it without this in a few days.

If you want a consistant supply of hardware, WE can do it. :)
I work for SOAR Technology.  We only deal with two motherboards for
486's... (each from two different distributors, both local to us.)
One is a vesa local. and the other is pci.  (vesa hard to get)
We love the AMD cpu's..  

about 95 bucks a piece for the pci boards.  :)
Quantity pricing is available.

Anyway, it might just be the maximise..  I ran a maximized partition on a
system with MBR, with version .99 of debian, that I upgraded to 1.1.?
so.. hmm.. 
I sold that system though... (it was a nameserver on my network, and
didn't really want it because it was slow.) :)

I'm going to install a p133 server with debian 1.2 in a day or so.
(deciding on what hard drive to through in it)

I'll try the MBR with maximise.

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Re: VIM questions

1996-12-12 Thread Stuart Lamble

"Chris R. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>1) Will there ever be a debian version of Vim which supports -g under X,
>or will I have to compile my own?

4.5-4, in bo. (This has been the cause of a couple of bug reports from
people who believe there should be a separate version without X support.
This ain't policy, folks. Sorry...)

>2) How can I get my keys mapped properly? I want del to delete the
>character under the cursor, bs to delete the previous character, home to
>move to the beginning of the line, end to move to the end of the line, pg
>up to go up a page, pg dn to go down a page, etc... where do I start? I
>would like behavior both in console mode and in an xterm.

I'm not too sure about this. I'm such a diehard vi user, I use the standard
vi commands for these :-)


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Re: Problems with mkaliases

1996-12-12 Thread Guy Maor
System Account <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> hi there. i have upgraded to debian 1.2. i also upgraded my smail to
> smail_3.2-3.deb. since then i have not been able to exec /usr/sbin/mkaliases.
> it tells me:
>   /usr/sbin/mkaliases: unknown file type, , for /etc/aliases
> 
> the mode for /etc/aliases is -rw-r--r--
> any ideas??

smail supports several different types of alias lookups.  You have to
edit the line that says ALIASES_TYPE='' in mkaliases to put in the
type you want to use.  That has to match what's in the aliases
director in /etc/smail/directors.  Ideally, mkaliases would read
directors to figure out the type in use.  I filed a bug report that it
should at least print out a better error message until that's
implemented.

Anyway, the default type is `lsearch' (linear search).  In that mode,
mkaliases does nothing more than a consistency check on your
/etc/aliases file.  There are much more efficient types which you
might want to use if you have a lot of aliases and process a lot of
email, namely bsearch (binary search) and dbm.

If you didn't understand any of that :), just edit the mkaliases file
so it says ALIASES_TYPE='lsearch', and you'll be ok.


Guy


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Problems with mkaliases

1996-12-12 Thread System Account

hi there. i have upgraded to debian 1.2. i also upgraded my smail to
smail_3.2-3.deb. since then i have not been able to exec /usr/sbin/mkaliases.
it tells me:
/usr/sbin/mkaliases: unknown file type, , for /etc/aliases

the mode for /etc/aliases is -rw-r--r--
any ideas??

i tried to install smartlist and that said "newaliases: command not found"
is this related?

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Re: how to get a bash shell with the new install floppies (Re: new boot floppies being uploaded)

1996-12-12 Thread Craig Sanders

On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Shaya Potter wrote:

> > 1.  ftp is still missing from the base install set. This makes it
> > difficult to install a custom compiled kernel. Actually impossible
> > if you don't have your kernel available on an nfs mount or floppy
> > disk.
> 
> Don't know what you mean.  I used the original rex disks to install and I 
> was able to install the whole system by dpkg-ftp, and I was able to ftp 
> to any machine I wanted to.

/usr/bin/ftp, the command line ftp client.  not dpkg-ftp.

i don't use dpkg-ftp at all. no need to, i mirror debian and it's much
more convenient to nfs mount my debian archive onto the build system to do
the install.

craig


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Re: how to get a bash shell with the new install floppies (Re: new boot floppies being uploaded)

1996-12-12 Thread Craig Sanders

On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Daniel Stringfield wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:
> 
> > > MBR doesn't work for me. No matter what I do, I can not get a machine
> > > to boot linux from the hard disk if MBR is in the master boot record. 
> > 
> > Can you figure out why?
> 
> What BIOS do you have?  (Brand and bios date) I think this may end up
> being the cause of this problem... but if its not, don't hold me to it. :)

i've had the dubious pleasure of running into the same problem on
a variety of machines (mainly because the hardware supplier seems
completely unable to provide the same motherboards in each new batch of
machines).  486 motherboards are starting to be hard to get...a shame,
486s or amd 586s are perfectly suited to what i'm builing these boxes
for (dialin servers for staff & students at various schools)...Pentium
would be overkill and significantly more expensive.

There have been a few pentium boxes.  award bios.

The 6 most recent boxes (5 built and installed on site since monday - a
busy week!) have all been AMD 586-133 machines.  Some with Award bios,
some with Phoenix bios, and some with the bletcherous AMI graphical
bios.  All motherboards have been PCI.  Some Plug'n'Pray.  

MBR hasn't worked on *any* of them.

In other words there is such a complete failure to work on any of the
machine I've tried it on that I must admit to being a little surprised that
MBR works for anyone.  But, nobody else seems to be reporting any problems
with it so it must be something i'm doing.

I remember that MBR used to work on the first debian 0.97 or was it 1.1 
machines that I built.  I suspect it may be the Maximise partition option
in cfdisk.  Partly because it's the only thing i can think of which might
be doing weird things to the partition table and partly because i 
remember that i used to use normal fdisk which didn't have that
option.  I'll try it without this in a few days.

Craig


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Empty messages from debian list servers

1996-12-12 Thread Bruce Perens
Yes, I know about the empty messages sent by the Debian list server.

The system that delivers the list mail had a full filesystem, and
the system that manages the subscriber list had its disk restored.
One of these things confounded the mailing lists. All subscribers
got empty messages. At least 50 people pointed them out to me :-) .
Only a few of them got a reply. The problem seems to be better now.

Thanks

Bruce
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Re: Installing large files

1996-12-12 Thread Allan Anderson
On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

> Fred Zarnowski wrote:
> > 
> > I am trying to install Debian on a laptop with no network connection and no
> > CDROM. I have been ftp'ing files to a W95 desktop then sneaker net via
> > floppy to the laptop. Unfortunately, I haven't solved large files like
> > Xbase that won't fit on a 1.44 floppy. I did get minicom going on the
> > laptop so I could download from a BBS if I could find one.
> > 
> > I would appreciate any suggestions or comments. Thanks.
> 
> I would reccommend using a null-modem serial connection between your
> laptop
> and the machine which has the debian files. The newer versions of 95's
> dialup
> networking support this. Just get ppp set up on the laptop and proceed
> from there.
Even better, if you have a program like LapLink, or DOS's Intersvr and
Interlnk, you can use a null parallel cable.  It's amazingly faster.

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spam filter

1996-12-12 Thread Bruce Perens
If you post to the Debian lists from several different machines, try
to persuade your mailer to use the same "From: " address from each one.
Then you'll only have to deal with the Spam Filter once. For example,
my .mailrc says:

set replyto="Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"

That gives me the same "From: " on all machines.

The filter saved us from "SEXY SINGLES" and "HOT STUFF" over the last
few days.

Thanks

Bruce
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[Fwd: ] Why

1996-12-12 Thread Paul Chau
I wonder why this message keep sending to me a few times.
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Re: redhat pkg -> debian

1996-12-12 Thread bruce
It's called "alien", and it's part of the debmake package.

Bruce


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Re: problem in some FTP mirrors of Debian-1.2/disks-i386/1996-12-8

1996-12-12 Thread Bruce Perens
> When selecting modules, there are still some windows that are not drawed
> properly.

We have a new volunteer working on modconf, who hopefully will fix it.
He has also written a lot of new information on the drivers.

> I really thought that was not the final disk set...

There will be more, but I didn't want to hold up the release any longer.

> BTW: Is that tiny ash to be supposed to have filename completion?

No, and no command history. Getting that much of a system in a 1.44MB root
filesystem is a bit of a challenge. I can't make it bigger without locking
out the 4MB systems.

Thanks

Bruce
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Unidentified subject!

1996-12-12 Thread Richard Sevenich
There was a recent mention on debian-user of a conversion utility that
could covert a red hat package to debian. I lost the reference and could
not find it in the archive. Could someone refresh my memory?
Thanks, Richard


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Re: Problem with 1.2 and 3com during install

1996-12-12 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Vatiainen Heikki wrote:

>Thaks for your mail. I made a record of the terminal session and I'm
>attaching it here. I made a completely fresh install with the
>1996-12-8 floppies and only selected nfs from the device driver
>modules. I tried to install 3c509 but it failed with or without the
>irq and base io given as parameter.
>
>I also tried the boot floppies from November but they didn't fix the
>3com problem either.
>
>The motherboard is a Tyan TomcatIII, and there's also a SoundBlaster
>32 PnP installed.
And that together with the PnP motherboard is the problem.
Get isapnp, run pnpdump before loading the modules and all is fine.
I put the following in /etc/init.d/boot

if [ -x /sbin/pnpdump ]; then
   echo "Deconfiguring PnP devices"
   pnpdump > /dev/null
fi

(This problem had driven me mad for about a day, Hope it helps you)

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Install not showing the net modules correctly

1996-12-12 Thread Allan Anderson
Yes, I had the same problem.  It looked confusing, but I was able to
select and enable the module with no problems.  Still, it should be fixed.

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dselect pre-dependency problem

1996-12-12 Thread Alexander LIST
Hi!

I just tried to upgrade to Debian 1.2. Unfortunately, dpkg has the
following problem:

# dselect
dpkg: cannot see how to satisfy pre-dependency:
 perl pre-depends on libdl1
dpkg: cannot satisfy pre-dependencies for perl (wanted due to perl)

installation script returned error exit status 1.

When I looked into /lib, I found:

# ls -l /lib/libdl*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   15 Nov 15 03:38 /lib/libdl.so ->
libdl.so.1.7.14
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   15 Nov 15 03:38 /lib/libdl.so.1 ->
libdl.so.1.7.14
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 6991 Apr 12  1996
/lib/libdl.so.1.7.14


So what's wrong? I have PERL installed, I have the lib installed.

BTW is there a way to tell dpkg to check installed packages and report
"broken" installations, missing files etc?

Thanx in advance

Alex

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Re: xterm-color : green cursor??

1996-12-12 Thread Brian C. White
> I recently installed xterm-color, but now ALL my xterm windows have a
> nasty green cursor in them... is there ANY way to tell xterm to use a
> specific cursor color, either for each window or globally?

You can get all this from the xterm man page, I believe, but here
are the lines I put in my .Xresources file:

XTerm*alwaysHighlight:  false
XTerm*background:   navy
XTerm*foreground:   white
XTerm*cursorColor:  yellow
XTerm*font: 10x20
XTerm*internalBorder:   2
XTerm*jumpScroll:   true
XTerm*reverseWrap:  false
XTerm*saveLines:1024
XTerm*scrollBar:true
XTerm*scrollTtyOutput:  false
XTerm*scrollKey:true
XTerm*scrollLines:  1
 
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Re: PGP

1996-12-12 Thread Brian C. White
>  The International Version of PGP is a slightly modified algorithm with
>  fewer bits.  Currently, it is illegal under the Data Encryption and
>  Privacy Act (modified) of 1995 to export encryption programs which use
>  56+ bits outside the United States.

The international version supports at least 1024 bits.  That is the
reason why the US government has been giving Phil Zimmerman (author
of PGP) a hard time, though he recently won his court case.

>  There is, of course, a workaround to get superior encryption with the
>  Internation versions (not only of pgp, but RSA and DES as well). Make
>  3 keys and do the following:
> 
>  1) encrypt with key 1
>  2) decrypt with key 2
>  3) encrypt with key 3

I'm not sure about PGP, but DES actually gets _weaker_ if encrypted with
two keys.  Three keys does make it much stronger, though, as you say.
 
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Unidentified subject!

1996-12-12 Thread David_Oswald
 hello all...
 
I should have been more specific when I spoke of the 
 strangeness I saw in the drivers selection menu.
 
I saw this in the "net" selection for ethernet device drivers. This 
 was not serious because I could recognize my ethernet card by the 
 description - BUT the "3c509" was not mapped correctly to the 
 description of the card. _in_fact_ I didn't see it at all until I 
 moved my section bar down to the next entry (which is not the 3c509 
 anymore).
 
 Well - that's what i see anyway ...
 
   anybody else see this behavior ???


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Re: problem in some FTP mirrors of Debian-1.2/disks-i386/1996-12-8

1996-12-12 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
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On 12 Dec 1996, Guy Maor wrote:

> 344cbc40324ebd10a526a1e83263c7b7  md5sum.txt

Oops! This is the set I was testing yesterday.

When selecting modules, there are still some windows that are not drawed
properly. When I select a module, I don't see the plus sign "+" at the
left until it is really installed (which I don't know whether this is the
intended behaviour, but it is counter-inituitive, IMHO. Some sign
indicating that you have selected a module to be installed would be nice). 
ftape module installation fails *always* (with Debian 1.1 disks, it failed
always the first time, but the second time it succeed). There are some
drivers without *any* description (for example, xd). How the user will
know which driver to install? This could be the same as selecting packages
with dselect.

I really thought that was not the final disk set...

BTW: Is that tiny ash to be supposed to have filename completion?
(It does not work). It is not very friendly to have to write
ln -s /mnt/rex/disks-i386/current/base1_2.tgz /tmp
to install from the ZIP drive.

Well, I don't want this to be considered "complaints". I will gladly
convert it into bug reports, if that helps to achieve a better set of
disks before 1.2.

Anyway, thanks for your good work. (Which some day may be "our", since I'm
currently waiting for my account on master :-).

Regards,

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Re: Format problem

1996-12-12 Thread Paul Christenson
On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Eric Budd wrote:

> Forgive for asking a stupid qeustion, but here goes. . .
> 
> I am building a system from used parts to run debian on, and the hard drive
> I have is DOS-formatted, but not as a system disk.  Is there any way that i
> can format that disk for Debian straight from the floppies without having to
> find a system to remount the drive on and format as a sys. disk?  If so,
> will this cause any problems with the Debian system?  

There are no stupid questions...  (Maybe some stupid answers, but that's
something else entirely.)

I'm making these assumptions from your message:

- you have a hard drive with the DOS (FAT) system on it
- you want to make it an exclusively Debian drive

That's simple.  Just follow the standard installation procedure; it
reformats the drive anyway.

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Re: What package do I need ? (libXpm.so.4)

1996-12-12 Thread joost witteveen
> 
>  Hello all...
>  
>Installed the new 1.2 - loved it...
>  
> 1) did any body else out there notice some funky things going on 
>  inside the drivers/modules selection menu? It worked but there was 
>  some strange goings on when I moved the selection bar up and down.
>  
> 2) also - I installed the xfree packages. The new GUI setup app is 
>  great.
>  
> 3) but after installing the fvwm2 & afterstep Window managers. I 
>  get:
>  
>  fvwm2: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4'.
>  afterstep: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4'
>  
>  What package do I need to instll to get this lib?

So, you're the second to report this.

Maybe others know why this is, but I fail to see how it comes
about. What you are obviously missing is the xpm4.7_3.4g-7.deb
package. But, fvwm_2.0.43-BETA-0 depends on xpm4.7, so you must have that
installed.

The only thing I can think of is that you have a lower soname of
xpm installed, and that fvwm is refusing to load it. If so,
the fvwm package should declare a dependancy on xpm4.7-dev_3.4g-7.

Could you check, what the output of the following commands is
on your system:

  dpkg -s "xpm4.7"
  file /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.*

I'm getting convinced there is a bug somewhere, but I dont know where.

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Re: Problem with 1.2 and 3com during install

1996-12-12 Thread Vatiainen Heikki
Thaks for your mail. I made a record of the terminal session and I'm
attaching it here. I made a completely fresh install with the
1996-12-8 floppies and only selected nfs from the device driver
modules. I tried to install 3c509 but it failed with or without the
irq and base io given as parameter.

I also tried the boot floppies from November but they didn't fix the
3com problem either.

The motherboard is a Tyan TomcatIII, and there's also a SoundBlaster
32 PnP installed.

You wrote:
> How does exactly insmod fails?  What are the error messages?  I'm
> loading the 3c509 module from kernel 2.0.23 here without any trouble.
> All I need to do is to include a line with
>
>  3c509
>
> in /etc/modules, and a line with
>
>  options 3c509 io=0x210 irq=7
>
> in /etc/conf.modules.  Everything works really nice with only that.

After the first reboot I installed 3c5x9 configure program and the
bsdutils package so I could use script to record the session. The
3c509 card was first initialized in dos to it's default
settings. Here's the transcript.

The new 3c5x9 setup program says that the card is active but there was
no such message with the previous version dated 6/9/95.

Script started on Thu Dec 12 21:55:41 1996
# lsmod
Module:#pages:  Used by:
nfs   124
# ./3c5x9 -v
3c5x9setup.c:v0.04 12/11/96 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
A potential 3c5*9 has been found, but it appears to still be an active.
Either shutdown the network, or use the '-f' flag.
# ./3c5x9 -f
3c5x9 found at 0x300.
Model number 3c509 version 5, base I/O 0x300, IRQ 10, 10baseT port.
Primary physical address is 00:20:af:c4:60:b2
Alternate physical address is 00:20:af:c4:60:b2
# insmod 3c509 io=0x300
Initialization of 3c509 failed
# insmod 3c509 io=0x300 irq=10
Initialization of 3c509 failed
# lsmod
Module:#pages:  Used by:
nfs   124
# ./3c509 --new-base-address 0x210 --new-irq 7
A potential 3c5*9 has been found, but it appears to still be an active.
Either shutdown the network, or use the '-f' flag.
# ./3c5x9 -f --new-base-address 0x210 --new-irq 7
3c5x9 found at 0x300.
 Would write new IRQ entry 0x7f00 (old value 0xaf00).
 Would write new transceiver/IO entry 0x0001 (old value 0x0010).
 Would write new checksum entry 0x7a71 (old value 0x7ab0).
 (The new EEPROM values will not be written without the '-w' flag.)
Model number 3c509 version 5, base I/O 0x210, IRQ 7, 10baseT port.
Primary physical address is 00:20:af:c4:60:b2
Alternate physical address is 00:20:af:c4:60:b2
# ./3c5x9 -f -w --new-base-address 0x210 --new-irq 7
3c5x9 found at 0x300.
Writing new IRQ entry 0x7f00.
Writing new transceiver/IO entry 0x0001.
Writing new checksum entry 0x7a71.
Model number 3c509 version 5, base I/O 0x210, IRQ 7, 10baseT port.
Primary physical address is 00:20:af:c4:60:b2
Alternate physical address is 00:20:af:c4:60:b2
# ./3c5x9 -f -w --new-base-address 0x210 --new-irq 7
3c5x9 found at 0x300.
Model number 3c509 version 5, base I/O 0x210, IRQ 7, 10baseT port.
Primary physical address is 00:20:af:c4:60:b2
Alternate physical address is 00:20:af:c4:60:b2
# insmod 3c509
Initialization of 3c509 failed
# insmod 3c509 io=0x210 irq=7
Initialization of 3c509 failed
# cat /proc/interrupts 
 0:  51951   timer
 1:   1893   keyboard
 2:  0   cascade
 8:  0 + rtc
13:  1   math error
14:   7263 + ide0
15: 99 + ide1
# cat /proc/ioports 
-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0070-007f : rtc
0080-009f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : npu
0170-0177 : ide1
01f0-01f7 : ide0
0376-0376 : ide1
03c0-03df : vga+
03f0-03f5 : floppy
03f6-03f6 : ide0
03f7-03f7 : floppy DIR
# cat /proc/pci 
PCI devices found:
  Bus  0, device  17, function  0:
VGA compatible controller: Matrox Millennium (rev 1).
  Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  IRQ 11.  
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe080.
  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe000.
  Bus  0, device   7, function  1:
IDE interface: Intel 82371SB Natoma/Triton II PIIX3 (rev 0).
  Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  
  I/O at 0x9000.
  Bus  0, device   7, function  0:
ISA bridge: Intel 82371SB Natoma/Triton II PIIX3 (rev 1).
  Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  Master Capable.  No bursts.  
  Bus  0, device   0, function  0:
Host bridge: Intel 82439HX Triton II (rev 3).
  Medium devsel.  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  
# exit

Script done on Thu Dec 12 22:00:20 1996


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Re: g++ undefined reference to '__getfpucw'

1996-12-12 Thread joost witteveen
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> I am still Debian1.1 - compiling a C++ program, which used to
> compile cleanly only a few weeks ago, gives me the following
> error message:
>   /lib/libm.so.5: undefined reference to '__getfpucw'

Well, if you are pure Debian-1.1, and didn't upgrade anything between
"a few weeks ago" and now, then you clearly need to check your
computer.

But, if you did upgrade gcc/libc5_5.4.13, then, yes, you should
install the new libg++ libs (although I've never heard of the
trouble you are refering to).

> 
> Do I need to upgrade any libraries ?
> Can anybody help me sort this out please ?

Not without a (small) sample of the code that doens't link


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Re: problem in some FTP mirrors of Debian-1.2/disks-i386/1996-12-8

1996-12-12 Thread Guy Maor
Santiago Vila Doncel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Could you please tell us the md5 sum of the md5sum.txt file?

344cbc40324ebd10a526a1e83263c7b7  md5sum.txt


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Grab updates from a non-Debian machine ?

1996-12-12 Thread H C Lai

My question :

How does one get Debian updates from a Debian ftp site using a
non-Debian machine ??

I read that there is a 'dftp' C-shell-script in the 'contrib/tool'
directory in the ftp site but I couldn't find it !! Does anyone know
where it is ??

I also have difficulties in finding out more info about how to use
this script, if it ever exists, to grab the updates. Pointers to
these questions would be much appreciated.


H.C.


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Re: problem in some FTP mirrors of Debian-1.2/disks-i386/1996-12-8

1996-12-12 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
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On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

> We've been moving disks around today and apparently the master copy of
> Debian-1.2/disks-i386/1996-12-8 was corrupted. The bad version is currently
> on ftp.debian.org . The version at debian.crosslink.net was not damanged.

Could you please tell us the md5 sum of the md5sum.txt file?
(Just to be sure).

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Re: Virtual Hosting

1996-12-12 Thread Todd T. Fries
the Edward Blevins writes:
> On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, CoB SysAdmin wrote:
> > Good thing, too. We've got enough IP-space cramping as it is.
> Agreed!

Um ipv6 anyone?   Read the specs.  Our little 32bit ip pool
is about to get a 96bit boost.  (technically 65bits when you
consider that is what they are allocating for ip addresses
that mean a single host).  Before we run out of 32bit ips, to boot.

Supposedly that is 1,000+ ip's per square meter of surface area of
the planet.

So what happens when we go into space?
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Re: xterm-color : green cursor??

1996-12-12 Thread Guy Maor
"Chris R. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I recently installed xterm-color, but now ALL my xterm windows have a
> nasty green cursor in them... is there ANY way to tell xterm to use a
> specific cursor color, either for each window or globally?

Set the `XTerm*pointerColor' resource.


Guy


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Re: xterm-color : green cursor??

1996-12-12 Thread David Ogilvie
with XFree86 3.2, the xterm has built in color capabilities.  unfortunately, 
it's one of the things i haven't gotten around to setting up yet.  i think you 
have to insert something like the following into your Xresources file:
#ifdef COLOR
*customization: color
#endif

although someone will almost certainly need to correct me on this point.



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What package do I need ? (libXpm.so.4)

1996-12-12 Thread David_Oswald
 Hello all...
 
   Installed the new 1.2 - loved it...
 
1) did any body else out there notice some funky things going on 
 inside the drivers/modules selection menu? It worked but there was 
 some strange goings on when I moved the selection bar up and down.
 
2) also - I installed the xfree packages. The new GUI setup app is 
 great.
 
3) but after installing the fvwm2 & afterstep Window managers. I 
 get:
 
 fvwm2: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4'.
 afterstep: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4'
 
 What package do I need to install to get this lib?
 


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VIM questions

1996-12-12 Thread Chris R. Martin

1) Will there ever be a debian version of Vim which supports -g under X,
or will I have to compile my own?

2) How can I get my keys mapped properly? I want del to delete the
character under the cursor, bs to delete the previous character, home to
move to the beginning of the line, end to move to the end of the line, pg
up to go up a page, pg dn to go down a page, etc... where do I start? I
would like behavior both in console mode and in an xterm.

Thanks, Chris.

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which 1.2 packages?

1996-12-12 Thread Greg Howland
I am about to make a fresh install of Debian 1.2
and am trying to determine which packages I need.
Debian's web pages has two sites for downloading;
an interface to the ftp site, and a direct
connection to the ftp site. The interface contains
a list of packages which is much shorter than the
number of packages from the direct connection.

If I download just the packages listed on the
interface, will that be enough for a full installation?
What types of packages will be missing that are
on the direct ftp site?

--Greg


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Re: Problem with 1.2 and 3com during install

1996-12-12 Thread Martin Alonso Soto Jacome
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> But back to the mission impossible. Last night I tried with different 
> irq and  base io addresses using both the dos and linux version of 
> the config programs.  The linux version finds the cards, tells the 
> irq and io address but insmod  fails. The command I used is 'insmod 
> 3c509 io=0x300 irq=10' or whatever irq  and base address I happened 
> to try at the moment. 

How does exactly insmod fails?  What are the error messages?  I'm loading the 
3c509 module from kernel 2.0.23 here without any trouble.  All I need to do is 
to include a line with

  3c509

in /etc/modules, and a line with

  options 3c509 io=0x210 irq=7

in /etc/conf.modules.  Everything works really nice with only that.

Regards,

M. S.

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Re: Installing large files

1996-12-12 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Fred Zarnowski wrote:
> 
> I am trying to install Debian on a laptop with no network connection and no
> CDROM. I have been ftp'ing files to a W95 desktop then sneaker net via
> floppy to the laptop. Unfortunately, I haven't solved large files like
> Xbase that won't fit on a 1.44 floppy. I did get minicom going on the
> laptop so I could download from a BBS if I could find one.
> 
> I would appreciate any suggestions or comments. Thanks.

I would reccommend using a null-modem serial connection between your
laptop
and the machine which has the debian files. The newer versions of 95's
dialup
networking support this. Just get ppp set up on the laptop and proceed
from there.

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xterm-color : green cursor??

1996-12-12 Thread Chris R. Martin

I recently installed xterm-color, but now ALL my xterm windows have a
nasty green cursor in them... is there ANY way to tell xterm to use a
specific cursor color, either for each window or globally?

Thanks, Chris.

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noteboot install

1996-12-12 Thread Tim Sailer
I'm having to do a scratch install of debian 1.2 on 2
Toshiba Tecra 500CDT notebooks, and I'm slowly losing my mind from
lack of sleep. It took an hour or so of fiddling to finally come up
with 'disable all cache' to get the machine to boot from the floppy.
Everything else went fairly normal, but a little slow. I copied the
pcmcia stuff via floppy, then configured the card, nice and smooth.
Now the fun started. From a local (on the ethernet) mirror, installing
the rest of the packages with dselect via nfs took 5 hours! This is
a p5-133 folks! Now, using loadlin to try to boot failed with
the normal error I've seen about not enough memory, so I installed
lilo, rebooted into DOS, enabled the cache, and rebooted...
and rebooted... and rebooted. It gets to Uncompressing Linux,
and reboots. OK.. I'm fairly intelligent (so I think). It must be
the kernel, with all the compiled in goodies. I disabled the
cache and rebooted, and am now recompiling the kernel
still compiling after *7 hours*! And... it died with
unreferenced symbols at the vmlinux linking. Does anyone
have any ideas about speeding this up? Sorry about the rambling...
I've had about 30 mins of sleep in the last 50 hours..

Tim

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Building a Debian bootable CD-Rom ?

1996-12-12 Thread Pierre BLANCHET
I've heard somewhere that 1.2 could be bootable from a CD.
Well, I have a CD-writer (under Win NT, no chance :-)) a
complete mirror of the Debian distribution.
But i've no experience writing a CD. I would appreciate any
help.
Thanks,

Pierre Blanchet.


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Re: how to print dvi files??

1996-12-12 Thread Carl Greco
According to Hamish Moffatt:
> 
> > Is there way to print dvi files? I know I can print it by converting it
> > to ps file but I would like to skip this step if there is way.
> 
> E, isn't the whole point of dvi that it is device independent,
> ie it must be converted into something else to print? dvips (to
> postscript) is the common example, but I think there's also dvilj4 and
> the like to convert to PCL for HP LaserJets. I use a Bubblejet
> so I use dvips + ghostscript to print. What printer are you try to use?

There are a couple of "magic" filters available to allow printing dvi
files directly.  Actually, they convert the dvi file to ps (or
whatever is required for your printer).  I use magicfilter with a HP
DeskJet 660C.  Also, look at apsfilter.

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Problems with X and gcc

1996-12-12 Thread Kevin McEnhill
Howdy one and all,

I upgraded to 1.2 from 1.1 and I have been banging my head on my keyboard
trying to fix the two problems I ran across.

*** gcc ***

This probably has to do with the upgrade I tried last week. According to
'dpkg --list', everything is installed and configured. That is all fine and
dandy but when I tried to compile one of my programs, I get something like
'gcc command not found'. If I try to 'find / -name "gcc"' the only thing
that it finds is the copy-write notice. This is not a good thing, in fact
this can even be filed under bad things. Is anyone else having this
problem? Does anyone have any advice or theories?

*** X ***

OK This one should be easy. When I tried to start the upgraded X11 (version
3.2 I think), I get a fatal error complaining:


(--) SVGA: clgd5426: Specifying a Clocks line makes no sense for this
driver
SVGA: 'clgd5426' is an invalid chipset
 *** None of the configured devices were detected.***


Fatal server error:
no screens found
_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
   giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.

I went looking for 'clgd5426' in all of the files in /etc/X11 but I didn't
find it. Where else should I be looking.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.



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Re[2]: PGP

1996-12-12 Thread ryan quick
 The International Version of PGP is a slightly modified algorithm with 
 fewer bits.  Currently, it is illegal under the Data Encryption and 
 Privacy Act (modified) of 1995 to export encryption programs which use 
 56+ bits outside the United States.
 
 There is, of course, a workaround to get superior encryption with the 
 Internation versions (not only of pgp, but RSA and DES as well). Make 
 3 keys and do the following:
 
 1) encrypt with key 1
 2) decrypt with key 2
 3) encrypt with key 3
 
 Wish everyone all the luck in the world to crack that.  Even a machine 
 capable of a billion processes per second would have to have a million 
 such processers in order to break even 30bit keys in less time than 
 the universe is old!
 
 Good luck,
 
 
 S. Ryan Quick  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sun/Sequent Admin
 Value Behavioral Health



 
Hmmm, as far as I know is the Us version only for US-Citizes in the US and 
the -i for all outside.
What to do for a non-US-citizen in the states like me ?
 
So the stupid law forbids pgp at all ??
 
donnow, correct me if I am wrong


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g3topbm uses WAAAAY too much ram/swap

1996-12-12 Thread Paul Haggart

  I just setup mgetty/vgetty+sendfax today and was testing out faxes when
this happened.  I figure it shouldn't.  :)

-=-=-

[root:/var/spool/fax/incoming] ls -la ff2ad00aeS1-_-FAXBACK_.01
-rw-rw   1 root fax47031 Dec 10 01:19 ff2ad00aeS1-_-FAXBACK_.01
[root:/var/spool/fax/incoming] g3topbm ff2ad00aeS1-_-FAXBACK_.01 > testfax.pbm

   

Out of memory for g3topbm.
Killed
[root:/var/spool/fax/incoming] free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem: 15044   3460  11584   1616128   1516
-/+ buffers: 1816  13228
Swap:20124   6496  13628

-=-=-

  You'd think 24mb combined free memory would be enough to convert a 47k g3 
fax into a pbm image.  :)  Anyone else had this problem?

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Re: Problem with 1.2 and 3com during install

1996-12-12 Thread Vatiainen Heikki
I have both the dos and linux versions of the 3c509 config program. The linux 
version can be found from ftp://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/linux/setup/ . There 
seems to be a new version of the program, dated 12/11/96. 
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/linux/linux.html has stuff about linux network 
drivers and config programs.

But back to the mission impossible. Last night I tried with different irq and 
base io addresses using both the dos and linux version of the config programs. 
The linux version finds the cards, tells the irq and io address but insmod 
fails. The command I used is 'insmod 3c509 io=0x300 irq=10' or whatever irq 
and base address I happened to try at the moment.

The card works fine with Win NT and dos, so it'll have to work with linux too. 
I guess I'll try the boot floppies from November and see if the program goes 
away.

Is it ok to compile 2.0.27 kernel on a different machine with only the 
necessary drivers and then put that on the resque disk? It's easy to open the 
image file with the loopback device and do the modifications. I guess I'll try 
that too.

> Find the floppy disk that came with your 3com card and run it (I'm afraid
> you'll have to boot a DOS floppy to do that). There's also a place where
> you can get the 3com configuration utility over the net, someone please tell
> us. It'll tell you what address the card is configured for, or will allow you
> to reconfigure it.

// Heikki



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Re: problem in some FTP mirrors of Debian-1.2/disks-i386/1996-12-8

1996-12-12 Thread Bjorn Isaksson
On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Vatiainen Heikki wrote:

> In ftp.lh.umu.se the following files seem to have different sizes than the 
> ones in debian.crosslink.net.
> 
> o drv1200.bin
> o drv1440.bin
> o linux
> o md5sum.txt
> o resq1440.bin
> 
> 

Ok, thanks for pointing that out. The problem is resolved now.

/Björn

- - - - umop apisdn 'sdoo - - - -
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Re: problem in some FTP mirrors of Debian-1.2/disks-i386/1996-12-8

1996-12-12 Thread Vatiainen Heikki
In ftp.lh.umu.se the following files seem to have different sizes than the 
ones in debian.crosslink.net.

o drv1200.bin
o drv1440.bin
o linux
o md5sum.txt
o resq1440.bin



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problem in some FTP mirrors of Debian-1.2/disks-i386/1996-12-8

1996-12-12 Thread Bruce Perens
We've been moving disks around today and apparently the master copy of
Debian-1.2/disks-i386/1996-12-8 was corrupted. The bad version is currently
on ftp.debian.org . The version at debian.crosslink.net was not damanged.
The bad version has disk image files that are some size other than
1.44MB or 1.2MB. If you see that, use another mirror. Other than that,
there appear to be no problems with the archive.

Thanks

Bruce
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Re: how to print dvi files??

1996-12-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
> Is there way to print dvi files? I know I can print it by converting it
> to ps file but I would like to skip this step if there is way.

E, isn't the whole point of dvi that it is device independent,
ie it must be converted into something else to print? dvips (to
postscript) is the common example, but I think there's also dvilj4 and
the like to convert to PCL for HP LaserJets. I use a Bubblejet
so I use dvips + ghostscript to print. What printer are you try to use?


hamish


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Re: innd startup

1996-12-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
> In your email to me, Hamish Moffatt, you wrote:
> > Weird, but inn will not load on startup for me.
> > /etc/init.d/inn looks correct, runs fine by hand for root
> > (although it doesn't specify a path, but adding that didn't
> > seem to help); it just doesn't run on startup. S21inn
> > exists in /etc/rc2.d as a symlink to /etc/init.d/inn.
> > Permissions all ok, etc.
> > 
> Fore some reason, /etc/init.c/inn calls innd directly. I hacked mine
> to call rc.news, and all is well.

Mine runs /etc/news/boot. Actually, I tracked it down;
the history files were owned by root.root, not news.news,
so when it ran (as news) during startup it couldn't
read those files and aborted. Changing the ownership fixed it.

Of course, it's a bug that inn created its own history
files as root.root, not news.news ... :-(


hamish


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innd startup

1996-12-12 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Hamish Moffatt, you wrote:
> 
> Weird, but inn will not load on startup for me.
> /etc/init.d/inn looks correct, runs fine by hand for root
> (although it doesn't specify a path, but adding that didn't
> seem to help); it just doesn't run on startup. S21inn
> exists in /etc/rc2.d as a symlink to /etc/init.d/inn.
> Permissions all ok, etc.
> 
> Any ideas? Unfortunately I have not been able to
> look at the console while it boots to see if there's
> any signs of trouble; the machine doesn't
> usually have a console.

Fore some reason, /etc/init.c/inn calls innd directly. I hacked mine
to call rc.news, and all is well.

Tim

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Re: Avoinding separate ppp options files for multiple ttys

1996-12-12 Thread Daniel Stringfield
On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, CoB SysAdmin wrote:

> 
> I've got four modems that people can use to dial into my linux machine.
> I keep the standard defaults in a file called "options.std.dialin", and
> then I've got four files that merely read like so:
[snip]
> It seems kinda silly that there's no way to have just one file that maps
> IP's to ttys rather than having to have a separate file for each
> one.
[snip]
> Anybody had any success with any alternatives?

YES!  I haven't used it in a while, (on the internet, nobody can dial in
;) )
BUT! it works great, and it won't allow multiple connections.  AND! If you
have a particular user that for some reason needs a permanant IP, it will
look for that user and give THAT user THE IP no matter what tty s/he's on.

You will have to modify what it tells you to do, but if you have questions
on how its modified (it took 2 seconds to mod it correctly, for me) fire
them at me!  

Its called isp-pppshells.

Its not even 3kb, so I attached it.



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installation and packages...

1996-12-12 Thread David Ogilvie
i recently made the rather unpleasant mistake of fsck'ing my mounted root 
filesystem.  oops.  as a result of this, i decided to just reinstall from 
scratch and use my backed up home directories.  here's some observations and 
bugs that i've noticed (i don't know how to use the bug reporting system, if 
someone would like to enlighten me or do the work for me, that'd be great).

i used the disks from frozen, and they worked fine for me.  they take 
_forever_ to load the kernel image.  is there somewhere obvious to put a 
message about the possiblities of compiling a kernel for each system?  
although not relevent for all users, it'd be nice to tell people that they can 
do that.

i downloaded packages from bo.  i suspect that many of these problems might 
apply to rex as well, but i haven't checked.


xpm-dev and xpm seem to share a few files -- they were overwritten because of 
the force option that dselect enables automatically.  because they have the 
same version number, i assume this doesn't even make a difference, but it does 
give a warning.

minor gripe:
when installing fvwm2, it spews out a long message about converting .fvwmrc 
files in home directories to .fvwm2rc files (i think it only does this the 
first time it's installed).  it then spits out a message about how no .fvwmrc 
files were found.  not surprising, as i've never used the original fvwm.  i 
suspect this may be the case for many other users.  it seems like it should be 
a simple matter of moving some lines in the preinst script (i think it was 
before installation) so that the long message is only printed out if .fvwmrc 
files are found to begin with.

there are strange dependencies on xbase that aren't listed.  in particular, 
for the xservers.  some others too i think, but those are the ones i remember 
(sigh.  dselect needs some sort of default logging.)

xbase does not provide X11R6.  this is a problem with several packages (gimp, 
among others).

it seems that ltxtool, ltxgraph, and psnfss should depend on latex.

the line "/usr/X11R6/lib" is missing from /etc/ld.so.conf .  this broke a few 
packages before i figured it out (i think there were already some messages on 
this, though).

major problem:
several programs require that zlib1 have a version greater than 1.03 .  
However, the version in bo is 1.0.4 .  according to the debian ordering of 
such things, it appears that 1.0.4<1.03 .  this is causing some problems with 
downloading things.  maybe change the version numbering to 1.04 or else change 
the requirements of all the other packages that depend on zlib1?  i don't know 
how such things are usual resolved.



thanx to the debian team for a great system!

-david



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Re: how to print dvi files??

1996-12-12 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, David Puryear, you wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Is there way to print dvi files? I know I can print it by converting it
> to ps file but I would like to skip this step if there is way.

Install apsfilter.

Tim
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Re: deliver and biff and comsat

1996-12-12 Thread Eloy A. Paris
> I chose to just change the ling in sendmail that points to procmail,
> since I don't regenerate sendmail.cf very often.  The symlink would
> work too, though.

Hi,

thanks again for your response.

I chose the symlink method because I generate sendmail.cf very often.
It works great.

As you know, sendmail depends on deliver. I think it should depend on a
local delivery agent (local mailer) and not just deliver, and the user
should be given the choice of which local mailer to use.

Thanks,

Eloy.-

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how to print dvi files??

1996-12-12 Thread David Puryear
Hi All,

Is there way to print dvi files? I know I can print it by converting it
to ps file but I would like to skip this step if there is way.

Thanks,
David


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Re: "resq1200.bin" is missing

1996-12-12 Thread Bruce Perens
I haven't constructed it yet. Unfortunately, it's two disks not one.

Bruce
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Re: how to get a bash shell with the new install floppies (Re: new boot floppies being uploaded)

1996-12-12 Thread Shaya Potter
On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Craig Sanders wrote:

> this fixes most of the problems i had with the 1996-12-7 set. I'm still
> having a few problems with the new disks:
> 
> 1.  ftp is still missing from the base install set. This makes it
> difficult to install a custom compiled kernel. Actually impossible
> if you don't have your kernel available on an nfs mount or floppy
> disk.

Don't know what you mean.  I used the original rex disks to install and I 
was able to install the whole system by dpkg-ftp, and I was able to ftp 
to any machine I wanted to.

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Re: Getty

1996-12-12 Thread Guy Maor
"Lord Of The CLUTZ's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I was wondering, when I installed debian it installed getty (or so I thought)
> however when I do "man getty" it gives me the man page for agetty, I would 
> prefer to have getty, because it does a clear screen after logout, I prefer 
> that better... any Idea what I can do? or where I can get a copy of the real 
> getty that is debianized?

The version of getty we use by default is agetty.  Sorry if that isn't
more clear.  If you want getty to clear the screen before its prompt,
just do this:

tput clear > /tmp/x
cat /tmp/issue >> /tmp/x
mv /tmp/x /tmp/issue

See man pages for issue(5), getty(1), tput(1) for more details.


Guy


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Re: Installing large files

1996-12-12 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Fred Zarnowski wrote:

> I am trying to install Debian on a laptop with no network connection and no
> CDROM. I have been ftp'ing files to a W95 desktop then sneaker net via
> floppy to the laptop. Unfortunately, I haven't solved large files like
> Xbase that won't fit on a 1.44 floppy. I did get minicom going on the
> laptop so I could download from a BBS if I could find one. 

Check out pkzip, in the manual.doc, under Create multi-volume archive. 

> 
> I would appreciate any suggestions or comments. Thanks.
> 
> Any opinions expressed are those of the sender and do not necessarily
> reflect the views of the State of Connecticut Dept of Transportation
> 
> Any opinions expressed are those of the sender and do not necessarily
> reflect the views of the State of Connecticut Dept of Transportation
> 
Third time makes it true.  ;-)

Luck,

Dwarf

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Re: suid problem

1996-12-12 Thread Guy Maor
Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Oh dear.  I have just installed a complete Debian system for a new recruit
> who is now 4 hours away by jet.  Is there any automated way of finding
> missing bits?

Yes - track updates to 1.2 as they are released, 1.2.1, 1.2.2, etc.

> Or what is my best course of action?

Regarding this bug?  It only manifests in 2.1 kernels, about 2.1.10
(not sure of the exact version), so just run a 2.0 kernel or apply the
patch.


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Re: how to get a bash shell with the new install floppies (Re: new boot floppies being uploaded)

1996-12-12 Thread Craig Sanders

On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

> > MBR doesn't work for me. No matter what I do, I can not get a
> > machine to boot linux from the hard disk if MBR is in the master
> > boot record.
>
> Can you figure out why?

no, the only thing remaining for me to try is to NOT use the Maximise
option in cfdisk when creating the / partition. Do you normally use that
option?

I did try it yesterday when I built the last server but ended up figuring
out how to do the chroot & lilo thing before I rebooted, so it never got
tested. Next time I build a debian box I'll try that and let you know if
it makes any difference.

i've built all the machines i currently need for work but my father has
been hassling me to build the linux internet gateway box that i've been
promising him for months...with any luck i'll have the time to build that
on the weekend.  After working 12+ hour days all week staring at screens
it's hard to summon up much enthusiasm for doing more of the same on the
weekends :-(


> I can put the chroot-ed shell environment in the menu.

cool.

craig


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Re: how to get a bash shell with the new install floppies (Re: new boot floppies being uploaded)

1996-12-12 Thread Daniel Stringfield
On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

> > MBR doesn't work for me. No matter what I do, I can not get a machine
> > to boot linux from the hard disk if MBR is in the master boot record. 
> 
> Can you figure out why?

What BIOS do you have?  (Brand and bios date) I think this may end up
being the cause of this problem... but if its not, don't hold me to it. :)

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Re: Avoinding separate ppp options files for multiple ttys

1996-12-12 Thread Craig Sanders

On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, CoB SysAdmin wrote:

> I've got four modems that people can use to dial into my linux machine.
> I keep the standard defaults in a file called "options.std.dialin", and
> then I've got four files that merely read like so:
> 
> --
> # Set IP address...
> :xxx.yyy.zzz.200
> 
> file /etc/ppp/options.std.dialin
> ---
> 
> It seems kinda silly that there's no way to have just one file that maps
> IP's to ttys rather than having to have a separate file for each
> one.

yes, i find that silly too. so silly that i refuse to use it. i'd much
rather have all the ip addresses defined in one file (it's much easier
to vi one file than several to make global changes).

my solution is to NOT use /etc/ppp/options.tty*, (i find they're too
inflexible - it's IMPOSSIBLE to override any option specified in the
options.* files) but to just use a bare bones /etc/ppp/options file
and have a /usr/local/bin/ppplogin.sh script which execs pppd with the
correct options.

e.g. something like:


#!/bin/sh

tty=`basename \`tty\``

PPPIDLE="idle-disconnect 900"

LOCIP=203.16.167.1

OPTIONS="-detach modem crtscts passive proxyarp"

# default is to assign IP address by port number.
# also ttyS0 is dedicated to user ljs.  no one else is allowed
# to use that line.
case $tty in
ttyS0)if [ "$LOGNAME" -ne "ljs" ] ; then
echo You are not authorised to use this line.
exec /bin/false
 fi ;;
ttyS1)REMIP=d01.taz.net.au ;;
ttyS2)REMIP=d02.taz.net.au ;;
ttyS3)REMIP=d03.taz.net.au ;;
esac

# override default dynamic IP address for certain login names. This
# allows assigning static IPs to certain users.
case $LOGNAME in
   ljs)REMIP=nightowl.taz.net.au ; PPPIDLE="" ;;
   helenst)REMIP=helenst.taz.net.au ; PPPOPTS="-d" ;;
   Ptest)REMIP=203.16.167.53 ;;
   ppac)REMIP="" ; PPPIDLE="" ;; 
esac

exec /usr/sbin/pppd $OPTIONS $PPPOPTS $PPPIDLE $LOCIP:$REMIP 


ppp users have this script as their login shell in /etc/passwd.

There are minor complications when using this with mgetty's AutoPPP
option. Everything works, except for being able to restrict ttyS0 to
user ljs. It's not a huge issue for me at the moment as no-one else
knows the phone number. One of these days i'll install idled or timeoutd
or something and configure it so that everyone but ljs has 0 minutes on
ttyS0.

Edit /etc/mgetty/login.config so that it runs
/usr/local/bin/ppplogin.auto for the /AutoPPP/ line:

change:
/AutoPPP/  -   -/usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap +pap login
to
/AutoPPP/   -   -   /usr/local/bin/ppplogin.auto


The ppplogin.auto shell script is simpler because there is no way of
determining who the user is until after pppd has been run.:

#!/bin/sh

tty=`basename \`tty\``

PPPIDLE="idle-disconnect 900"

LOCIP=203.16.167.1

OPTIONS="-detach modem crtscts passive proxyarp auth -chap +pap login"

case $tty in
ttyS0)REMIP=nightowl.taz.net.au ;;
ttyS1)REMIP=d04.taz.net.au ;;
ttyS2)REMIP=d05.taz.net.au ;;
ttyS3)REMIP=d01.taz.net.au ;;
esac

exec /usr/sbin/pppd $OPTIONS $PPPIDLE $LOCIP:$REMIP 




Another variant of this that i have used on other systems is to have
an /etc/slip.hosts style file which is parsed by the ppplogin sh/perl
script to assign a static IP address based on either login name, or a
dynamic IP address based on port number if the specified IP address is
the string "-dynamic-".

Craig


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Re: how to get a bash shell with the new install floppies (Re: new boot floppies being uploaded)

1996-12-12 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ftp is still missing from the base install set.

Might not get fixed in 1.2, I'm out of space.

> MBR doesn't work for me. No matter what I do, I can not get a machine
> to boot linux from the hard disk if MBR is in the master boot record. 

Can you figure out why?

I can put the chroot-ed shell environment in the menu.

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Some experiences of a Rex installation

1996-12-12 Thread Esa Turtiainen

I have installed two machines from the current Rex distribution.
The distribution was aligned on Monday to my mirror FTP.FUNET.FI
that is usually quite up-to-date. There has not been modifications
in the mirror this week any more and so I hope to have the final one.

The base set of the system was installed last week with
previous boot set (28-11). I had some problems but I uderstood that
they should be solved by now.

I found the following dependency problems:
 - gs-aladdin should depend on libpng1
(shouldn't the non-free be frozen with rex?)
 - kbd recommends too strongly on svgatextmode
there are all kind of problems with svgatextmode 
especially in internationalization and I do not
want to use it yet
(forcing kbd without svgatextmode works fine)
- mc should depend on libgpm1

And some likely bugs:

svgatextmode: 8-bit international ISO Latin 1 characters are displayed
incorrectly in all the fonts I tried.

X: The keyboard maps of XKB extension of XFree 3.2 are not working
really well. If you select Finnish from menu you are not going to get
the right map. It seems that if you
- run new xf86config (keyboard do not work with old)
- but do *not* select keyboard extension in the configuration
then you'll get the right keyboard map from the kbd package.
(In fact, the resulting keymap is the best I have ever managed
to get to work in X with *all* the right dead keys.)
I do not have any xmodmap settings.

msql: it tries to send messages to the msql user which it has
correctly created but forgotten to create /var/spool/mail/msql which
means that smail stores the message in 'error' subdirectory.  The error
message email repeats at 15 second interval.  The message says "Can't
start server : UNIX bind : Permission denied".  The reason may be the
permission problems of the '/tmp' being root.root rwxr-xr-x after the
base installation. This generates an interesting amount of trash mail
files.

Updatedb is never run. The likely reson is that cron seems to die.

One interesting note is that I must *not* have bind installed to get
NFS partitions mounted in the boot. If I have local DNS it is not up
yet and the server names are not resolved at all (in a small installation
they are in /etc/hosts but I have decided not to do that). If I do not
have local bind, it correctly asks tha names from configured external
nameservers.

BTW: I have tried to use network masks in /etc/export. I have got them
to work in *the last line* of the file. If I have three lines in the
file, just the third export allows mounts according the mask.

BTW2: Are you sure that nameservers should be separated with comma
in /etc/resolv.conf like suggested in the boot set dialog. I have
used just blank and it seems to work. Never tried comma.

I would be happy with CD drivers in the kernel if there would be a way
to disable autodetection of the devices that are not there. Is there a
boot option to do that? Space is not such a big issue anymore.

I have not found xload yet. fvwm95 is missing it. The old configuration
file is missing xterm_color as well but it seems to be obsolete now(?)
(I prefer this, the green cursor is awful.)

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