[Fwd: [INSTALL]:novice questions]

1997-04-27 Thread Pavel Galynin
Pavel Galynin wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> It is a widspread misconception, that Jason Ish wrote:
> 
> > I don't know about they keyboard, but the best way for you to install
> > would be to set up your PPP connection to your isp and with dselect
> > choose to install by ftp and once the files start downloading go do
> > something for a while.  All you need to connect via ftp is included on
> > the base install disks by editing the scripts /etc/ppp.chatscript,
> > /etc/ppp.options_out and maybe /usr/pon.
> > Ask me for info on setting up the ppp if you haven't already done so -
> > did you select PPP in the driver selection during install?
> 
> I reinstalled and included the ppp driver this time (as well as serial),
> but I have no idea what to do with these scripts. I'd rather have
> someone help me than mess everything up and have to reinstall.
> 
> > I have a Mitsumi CD to.  But I didn't install any drivers for it and > it
> > worked (it is an ide drive tho).
> 
> I just thought that if they include the Mitsumi CD driver, and I have a
> Mitsumi CD-drive, I'm supposed to use that driver. Anyways, I installed
> cdrom.c (often used routines).
> 
> Any help with ppp scripts would be welcome,
> 
> tia,
> Paul--- Begin Message ---
Hello,

It is a widspread misconception, that Jason Ish wrote:

> I don't know about they keyboard, but the best way for you to install
> would be to set up your PPP connection to your isp and with dselect
> choose to install by ftp and once the files start downloading go do
> something for a while.  All you need to connect via ftp is included on
> the base install disks by editing the scripts /etc/ppp.chatscript,
> /etc/ppp.options_out and maybe /usr/pon.
> Ask me for info on setting up the ppp if you haven't already done so -
> did you select PPP in the driver selection during install?

I reinstalled and included the ppp driver this time (as well as serial),
but I have no idea what to do with these scripts. I'd rather have
someone help me than mess everything up and have to reinstall.

> I have a Mitsumi CD to.  But I didn't install any drivers for it and > it
> worked (it is an ide drive tho).

I just thought that if they include the Mitsumi CD driver, and I have a
Mitsumi CD-drive, I'm supposed to use that driver. Anyways, I installed
cdrom.c (often used routines).

Any help with ppp scripts would be welcome,

tia,
Paul--- End Message ---


Re: WINE AND SHARE.EXE

1997-04-27 Thread Joey Hess
Harmon Sequoya Nine:
> 
> Hello.  I'm trying out the windoze emulator "wine", and can get games like
> minesweeper and solitaire to run fine.  However, whenever I try to run
> microsoft word, a message is displayed telling me that I must run "share.exe".
> 
> "share.exe" is under my /dos and /windows/command directories on my dos 
> partition,
> but I have no idea how to get it running under wine in concurrency with 
> microsoft
> word.
> 
> Any suggestions?  Perhaps a proper line in the proper location in config.sys?
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated.  :-)

I suggest you ask about this on the comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine
newsgroup. 

I remember seeing a description of this problem, and I seem to remember it
was actually a permissions problem. But I'm afraid I don't remember any
details.

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ANNOUNCE: New Logo and Feedback Page for the Debian Logo (v12)

1997-04-27 Thread Christian Schwarz
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Hi folks!

I just installed the new Debian Logo Page (v12) today. You can have a
look at it via

http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-logo/

The new page contains 11 new and 13 old logos and uses HTML forms to
make it easy for you to tell us your opinion.

We collect all the comments we get this way and make a ``feedback
page'' out of it. The current version contains 307 comments. Thanks a lot
to all that told us their opinion!

There is a new "Overview Page" which shows all logos that have been
submitted so far, ordered by popularity! In addition, there is a new
"Profile Page" for each logo that contains several versions of each
logo (small, large, colored, grayscale, b/w).

I reworked all pages today, so I appreciate _any_ comments, suggestions, 
or critics about the new pages.



Cheers,

Chris

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Re: year-2000 testing

1997-04-27 Thread Sam Ockman
Message from Bruce Perens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> If you can do so, please try running your system with the date in the year
> 2000 for a while. Richard Stallman asked if we had tested that GNU software
> is free of year-2000 problems, and I think it's a good idea. Fortunately
> we don't have too many COBOL programs :-) .
> 
> To do this, you'll probably need to run something like "clock -u -w"
> after resetting the date with the "date" command.

It seems like the problems, if any, would probably be more problems from
the actual roll-over from the year 1999 to 2000, so probably the best thing
would be to set your computer's date to Dec. 31, 1999, and see what
happens to your processes when it hits midnight.

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Re: INSTALL:dual-boot

1997-04-27 Thread Pavel Galynin
Hello,

Jason Ish wrote:
> 
> When you are installing Debian just make sure all your Linux partitions
> are on hdb(whatever) then make a boot floppy, but don't try to make it
> boot from the hard disk until you know more about Lilo.  I've using
> Linux/Win95 for months now like this, if I want Linux to load I just throw
> the boot floppy in and reboot.  I also do this cuase I'm scared of messing
> up the MBR for Win95

I know this is the safest way, but my ESSENCE of an ASM programmer can't
bear anything that's not perfectly elegant.

Paul


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Some minor post-install TUNINGs

1997-04-27 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
 As I told in my previous posting, I think Debian is great.
 But this does not imply that only _gurus_ may want to use it. It took
some time to me to find out how to do some tunings after installing from
scratch, nothing so important but anything unuseful I think.

 Here I give four attachments. Probably most readers on this mailing
list can do better, but here I am. 

  1) Some lines which I decide to let survive both from the Debian default
 /etc/profile and from the one I have in an old Slackware (August
 '95); they provide setup
 - to show the current dir path in the shell prompt, 
 - to have colors (red for gzipped) in files lists from ls (if going
   directly to a terminal, not e.g. to less or grep or a file) plus
   the eventual symbol for the file type (@ link, * executeable... so
   it is already ok also for a monochrome terminal),
 - to have less as a pager for man and to have ascii output from
   man (good - almost here - both in text mode console and in xterm
   sessions, otherwise in the former some strange characters are
   shown). 

  2) ls colors, to be set up be a call done by the previously attached
 sample /etc/profile script. It comes from Slackware August '95.

  3) Done here under Debian 1.2.4, performs some tuning of X and fvwm2
 OVERWRITING FILES, so please create some dir such as /looking/ and
 "untar" staying in it, and give a look comparing what YOU have and
 what is going to overwrite it, not only links to null.hook
 (nothing-doers, predispositions for plug-ins) but also Debian default
 files which you might already have modified, e.g. you may want to
 save your own /etc/X11/Xresources file and then overwrite mine, which
 is the Debian 1.2.4 default + lines I also copied to 
 added-to-Xresources.cat, and finally add those lines to YOUR file 
 with a command such as 'cat added-to-Xresources.cat >> Xresources'. 

 Colors are rather dark and with not much contrast to minimize
 eyestrain (almost here with this pretty good display, otherwise if
 they are too dark to well read then take it as a hint on where to
 change those colors). 

 - The desktop background color and a first xterm instance have been
   left to each user's ~/.xsession file (NOT ~/.xinitrc, which should
   take care of ANY of the actions otherwise performed by the global
   xinitrc file, which is /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, actually a link
   to /etc/X11/Xsession; that clever script looks both at the
   system-wide and at the user's Xresources and Xmodmap files, and at
   the user's ~/.xsession file, and takes care of resources merge). 

 - Xresources has been added default colors for emacs (grey on black
   instead of black on white) and default colors and font for xterm
   (grey background, 7x14 font). Notice that some xterm settings such
   as scrollbar presence are left to the invocation done by
   ~/.xsession or via the fvwm2 menu and will not be automatically 
   "inherited" by xterm instances eventually coming from typing
   'xterm &' in a scrollbar-fournished xterm session.

 - The fvwm2 mouse-button-1 menu has been added "shell" and
   "screensaver"+"screenlock" popups. This has been done using the
   "hooks" in /etc/X11/fvwm2/.fvwm2, not modifying what is in
   /etc/X11/fvwm2 (notice that /etc/X11/fvwm2/menudefs.hook is
   "maintained" by the Debian install/deinstall procedures; great
   Debian, great idea those hooks). The screensaver/screenlock modes
   are the ones currently (Debian 1.2.4) mentioned in the help given
   by xlock.

  4) The last attachment is only useful (if not as a [bad?] hint) to
 PC users with an Italian keyboard. I had to fix correspondence of a
 few keys and I just used the Xmodmap way because could not find what
 to change after reading this in XF86Config:

 Section "Keyboard"
 Protocol  "Standard"
 AutoRepeat500 5
 Xkbkeycodes   "xfree86"
 XkbTypes  "default"
 XkbCompat "default"
 XkbSymbols"en_US(pc102)+it"  <--
 XkbGeometry   "pc"
 EndSection



 If I've put any mistakes before posting the files please don't miss
to notify to me! 

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# PS1="\\$ "

# export PATH PS1

ulimit -c unlimited
umask 022

if [ "$SHELL" = "/bin/pdksh" -o "$SHELL" = "/bin/ksh" ]; then
 PS1="! $ "
elif [ "$SHELL" = "/bin/zsh" ]; 

Thinkpad 701CS

1997-04-27 Thread David S. Jackson
Hi, 

I'm installing debian 1.2 on a Thinkpad 701CS, and I'm having a few
problems maybe you could help with.

I got the base system installed ok, but now I'm having trouble completing
the installation via ftp.  I connected once, but the second time is
proving to be a challenge.  Here's the latest of my /var/adm/ppp.log
files:

**SNIP**
Apr 27 11:53:23 tweety chat[2947]: abort on (NO CARRIER) 
Apr 27 11:53:23 tweety chat[2947]: abort on (BUSY) 
Apr 27 11:53:23 tweety chat[2947]: send (ATZ^M) 
Apr 27 11:53:23 tweety chat[2947]: expect (OK) 
Apr 27 11:53:25 tweety chat[2947]: ATZ^M^M 
Apr 27 11:53:25 tweety chat[2947]: OK -- got it 
Apr 27 11:53:25 tweety chat[2947]: send (ATDT687-3945^M) 
Apr 27 11:53:25 tweety chat[2947]: expect (CONNECT) 
Apr 27 11:53:25 tweety chat[2947]: ^M 
Apr 27 11:53:41 tweety chat[2947]: ATDT687-3945^M^M 
Apr 27 11:53:41 tweety chat[2947]: CONNECT -- got it 
Apr 27 11:53:41 tweety chat[2947]: send (^M) 
Apr 27 11:53:41 tweety chat[2947]: expect (sername:) 
Apr 27 11:53:41 tweety chat[2947]:  38400/REL^M 
Apr 27 11:53:41 tweety chat[2947]: ^P^U1^M=5^U^A"=^A 
Apr 27 11:54:26 tweety chat[2947]: 
+V:%^U^K^W^A*4I^?^U^Q^A^ZU^IM^MI%^I^UI^AV,^AK^K)(^P%9^U^A~^A(!M^UI^AV,^A2^V.^M^EQ%=9&(!I9^E5^Uiy.5^U^A"%5^U=UQ^AA%I^U^Q^E(U.^E5^Uiy
Apr 27 11:54:26 tweety chat[2947]: alarm
Apr 27 11:54:26 tweety chat[2947]: Failed
Apr 27 12:17:03 tweety chat[596]: abort on (NO CARRIER) 
Apr 27 12:17:03 tweety chat[596]: abort on (BUSY) 
Apr 27 12:17:03 tweety chat[596]: send (ATZ^M) 
Apr 27 12:17:03 tweety chat[596]: expect (OK) 
Apr 27 12:17:05 tweety chat[596]: ATZ^M^M 
Apr 27 12:17:05 tweety chat[596]: OK -- got it 
Apr 27 12:17:05 tweety chat[596]: send (ATDT687-3945^M) 
Apr 27 12:17:05 tweety chat[596]: expect (CONNECT) 
Apr 27 12:17:05 tweety chat[596]: ^M 
Apr 27 12:17:21 tweety chat[596]: ATDT687-3945^M^M 
Apr 27 12:17:21 tweety chat[596]: CONNECT -- got it 
Apr 27 12:17:21 tweety chat[596]: send (^M) 
Apr 27 12:17:21 tweety chat[596]: expect (sername:) 
Apr 27 12:17:21 tweety chat[596]:  38400/REL^M 
Apr 27 12:17:22 tweety chat[596]: ^P^U1^M=5^U^A"=^A 
Apr 27 12:18:06 tweety chat[596]: 
+V:%%Q%9=I^?i^U^Q^A^ZU^IM^MI%^I^UI^AV,.^P1e9(^X%9^U^A~^A(!M^UI^AV,^A2^V.^M^EQ%=9$((U.^E5^Uiy.^E5^U^A"%5^U=UQ^AA%I^U^Q^E(U.5^Uiy
Apr 27 12:18:06 tweety chat[596]: alarm
Apr 27 12:18:06 tweety chat[596]: Failed
**SNIP***

As you can see, when my script expects 'sername:' it seems to be getting
the line speed and there's no indication of a password having been
received.  My guess is there's something wrong with the timing or
synchronization of the 'expect' and the 'got it'.  The script I'm using
comes from the ISP itself (someone there is a Linux afficianado). 
It worked before I did my first install after the 7 disk base install.  

My question is:  Does the output above mean that there IS a synch problem
and that I need to fiddle with the 'wait' or 'sleep' commands in my
script?

The normal sequence for connecting with my ISP is :

enter username:
enter password:
CS># They want 'ppp default' here

Then it should just go right into a ppp session.  Perhaps there's another
ppp service that's needed like PAP authentication or something?

Please let me know if you need more info.  TIA!


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Re: debian_user mailing list vs newsgroup

1997-04-27 Thread Karl Ferguson
At 10:23 AM 27/04/97 -0700, Jim Pick wrote:
>I remember reading somewhere that the gateway from the mailing lists
>to the linux.* newsgroups was shutting down.  Unfortunately, I can't
>find the message here anywhere.
>
>I suppose we could create our own debian.* newsgroups -- but I prefer
>getting them via e-mail anyways.

Believe it or not, it's actually a good thing IMO.  I've been replying to
users on debian-user and found that I suddenly receive multiple spam emails
everyday (and still are).  Posting things to Usenet with your real email
address is just asking to be put on the latest spam stuff for the rest of
your life :(  Thankyou to whoever shut it down :-)

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Re: INSTALL:dual-boot

1997-04-27 Thread Klaus Hergerschiemer
I dont know if they revised it, but last time i looked at it it was really
incomplete.
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On Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Bob Nielsen wrote:

> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 11:43:58 -0700 (MST)
> From: Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Pavel Galynin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Debian User List 
> Subject: Re: INSTALL:dual-boot
> Resent-Date: 26 Apr 1997 19:44:05 -
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> 
> Get the LILO+Win95 mini-HOWTO.
> 
> On Fri, 25 Apr 1997, Pavel Galynin wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Rick Jones wrote:
> > > 
> > > Dual boot is ok. I think just about all of us use it.
> > 
> > So, do I use lilo, or are there any special tricks? 
> > And, before you ask, NO, I'm not just another lamer. If i had an ASM
> > source to Win95, I would know how to do it. But I have no idea where
> > win95 puts its loader. If it's MBR, then I'm in a lot of troulble.
> > 
> > TIA,
> > 
> > Pavel
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 25 Apr 1997, Pavel Galynin wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I'm about to install Debian on my Pentium 200Mhz, 32MB RAM, 2*3.1 GB IDE
> > > > western Digital HDDs.
> > > > I have to use Win95 to do work for school (everything is submitted on
> > > > floppies in Word for Win 6.0 format, and presentations in Powerpoint).
> > > > The ? is: is it safe to dual-boot? I am going to install Debian on hdb.
> > > >
> > > > Also, has anybody had any experience with using: Supra Express 33.6
> > > >SBlaster AWE 64
> > > >HP Deskjet 690C?
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
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Re: Error: Too Many Open files

1997-04-27 Thread Troy Hanson
> : /usr/share/games/fortunes/art.dat: Too many open files
> 
> Did you installed lshell?
> 

I just checked, lshell was installed, so I purged it and it works.

Thanks Much!
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WINE AND SHARE.EXE

1997-04-27 Thread Harmon Sequoya Nine

Hello.  I'm trying out the windoze emulator "wine", and can get games like
minesweeper and solitaire to run fine.  However, whenever I try to run
microsoft word, a message is displayed telling me that I must run "share.exe".

"share.exe" is under my /dos and /windows/command directories on my dos 
partition,
but I have no idea how to get it running under wine in concurrency with 
microsoft
word.

Any suggestions?  Perhaps a proper line in the proper location in config.sys?

Any help is greatly appreciated.  :-)

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Re: debian_user mailing list vs newsgroup

1997-04-27 Thread Jim Pick

> Is there a mailing list gateway from debian_user to linux.debian.user?
> 
> I subscribe both of those, because some messages does not seem appear in
> both in the mailing list and the newsgroup.
> 
> I remember reading something about this a month ago or so, but I can't
> really recall what the message said.
> 
> The newsgroup was almost dead in my end, until a week ago. It does not
> seem to be up to date though.

I remember reading somewhere that the gateway from the mailing lists
to the linux.* newsgroups was shutting down.  Unfortunately, I can't
find the message here anywhere.

I suppose we could create our own debian.* newsgroups -- but I prefer
getting them via e-mail anyways.

Cheers,

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Re: LILO cylinder problem

1997-04-27 Thread Perry Piplani
On Fri, 25 Apr 1997, David Pfitzner wrote:

> > 
> > So why in the hell does lilo report cylinder 2312 which I'm fairly sure is
> > in hda3 when I'm setting up hda2 which starts at 817?
> 
> I seem to recall reading that you can have problems with
> partitations where are not _entirely_ within 1023 cylinders,
> because the kernel image could happen to be in that part
> of the partition which is past the 1023 cylinder.
> 
Exactly. And what I do to deal with the problem is create a very small
partition for the /boot directory, where vmlinuz and the other LILO stuff
resides. Mine is 4 mb but 2 mb is more than sufficient.



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popclient .poprc file

1997-04-27 Thread troop/chiparus^mono
Hello,

I just edited my .poprc file so it looks like this:

defaults proto pop3 localfolder /var/spool/mail/troop
server mail.chiparus.org user blah pass secret
server mail.chiparus.org user blah pass secret
server pop.pi.net user blah pass secret

Problem is, as soon as i start popclient it exits with a segmentation
fault. As soon as i comment 2 out of the 3 'server' lines in the .poprc
(so only 1 is active) it works okay. 

question: am i missing something in configuration? as far as i know the
above file should work fine.

Thanks for any help.

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Re: problem ftpd

1997-04-27 Thread Perry Piplani
On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Comet Mercantile wrote:

> 
> 
> On 22 Apr 1997, Rob Browning wrote:
> 
> > Comet Mercantile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > I can't login into my box the ftpd denies access to everyone! I check the
> > > files /etc/hosts.deny /etc/hosts.allow /etc/ftpd/ftpaccess and they are
> > > all fine! what else could it be? I am using wu-ftpd..
> > 
> > Could this be the problem caused by a recent revision of the cvs
> > package?  It deleted all the entries in /etc/inetd.conf.  See if yours
> > is mostly empty.
> Nope  it looks pretty normal to me here is what it looks like
>[inetd.conf snipped]

Could it be that your users' shells are not listed in /etc/shells?? ftpd
doesn't like that and denies access, at least on my systems.



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Re: smartlist question

1997-04-27 Thread Richard Morin
On Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Giuseppe Vacanti wrote:

> Anybody who could help?
> 
> FYI, I haven't integrated procmail in the mail delivery system.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Giuseppe Vacanti
> 
> 

According to the procmail docs, you need the following line in your
/etc/smail/transports:

local:  return_path, local, from, driver=pipe; user=root,
cmd="/usr/bin/procmail -d $($user$)"

and comment out the "local" line that is there like so:

#local: driver=appendfile, from, local, inet, return_path, unix_from_hack;
#   append_as_user, check_user, file=/var/spool/mail/${lc:strip:user},
#   group=mail, mode=0660, notify_comsat, suffix="\n"

Let me know how it goes, I haven't tried smartlist yet, but I'm using
smail and procmail alreadyand I've heard favourable mention of
smartlist on other lists.

Hope this helps!

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Re: INSTALL:dual-boot

1997-04-27 Thread Brian K Servis
Pavel Galynin writes:
>
>Hello,
>
>Well, I looked at it already, but it caused my question:
>
>How to dual-boot reliably?
>
>Paul
>
>
>Bob Nielsen wrote:
>> 
>> Get the LILO+Win95 mini-HOWTO.
>>
>

I personally like the LOADLIN option better.  For me it seems safer
than modifying the MBR.  I just have a menu come up in my autoexec.bat
file that asks what system to boot using the choice command.

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how to make ppp die after only 4 rings?

1997-04-27 Thread Lawrence Chim
Since my ISP will answer the call after 2 rings,
it is possible to set the pppd to die after 4 rings,
otherwise, it keeps the line 'til 60s pass.

Lawrence,


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Re: ACM 4.7-3 with Debian Linux 1.2.4 // xlock -mode rotor ???

1997-04-27 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
 Sad to say, I'm not replying to my own question about Air Combat
Maneuvers under Debian 1.2.4. And I'm not forwarding it again unless
required, and possibly by private e-mail, being that a rather big message. 
 I just have to point out a couple of things. 


1) Ian Murdock is not the maintainer of the package anymore. 

On Fri, 25 Apr 1997, Ian Murdock wrote:

> >  I had previously sent this to Ian Murdock, who maintains the
> > package (and who invited me to post the question to the list):
> 
> Actually, I don't maintain the package anymore; that's why I pointed
> you to debian-user. :)

I'm so sorry, excuse me, of course I couldn't know!  


2) I'll add the minimum quick-start hints to give anybody willing to
   dig into the problem but NOT using a well running ACM before the chance
   to distinguish what VEEERY SLOW means:

- Pentium 90 running both the acms server and the acm graphics frontend. 

- 320x200 window (not everything is readable but it's rather fast
  even at low altitude maneuvers over the airport; inside a larger desktop
  run acm -geometry 320x200, otherwise write a simple script, say ~/goacm,
  which you run from text console and which puts in action a XF86Config
  file - see attachment - limiting the X desktop to that low resolution,
  then calls starx, then reputs "in action" the all-modes XF86Config; a
  similar limit to 1024x768 could work e.g. for "Battle Zone"). 

- Mouse cursor centered in the head-up display.

- Press "h" twice: flaps down.
  With a slower machine eventually press "r" twice: radar off.

- Immediately one after the other press "4" and "a": full throttle and
  afterburner.

  In a well running ACM:
  
  >>> IN 3-4 SECONDS the left vertical rudder should reach 150 (knots) <<<
  

- Here if you find it interesting you can smoothly pull back the mouse
  and take off, keep the small circle (flight path marker) on the 20
  degrees up line, at 200-250 knots press "y" twice (flaps up), at 400-450
  knots press "a" (toggle afterburner to off)... you'll enter the
  clouds and exit soon, press "n" and shake the mouse a little, then
  press "n" again... you have better read the postscript documents if you
  really decide to "fly" ACM, and train quite a lot to land safe (if
  you're not a pilot, I mean), which is to me the most beautiful thins,
  especially with a broken engine or unbalanced plane or at least with
  minimum throttle (20%, which is anyway less difficult than with broken
  engine or with no fuel). 


 BY THE WAY, the "rotor" mode of xlock seems very slow too, isn't it? 
I mean, under an old Slackware '95 (and 3.1 December 9.6 and other
distributions I gave a look at) I saw it so fast that full geometric
shapes appeared quickly changing, and not a running point.


 I find Debian great under many aspects, pon/poff, mgetty, I've well
understood and configured the /etc/X11/fvwm2/.fvwm2 hooks and noticed that
the install-deinstall procedures for some packages automatically update
the /etc/X11/fvwm2/menudefs.hook (I'm thinking about posting a couple of
messages after this, one to help ex-Slackware users with a minimum fvwm2
menu setup and one for the Italian users to fix correspondence of a few
keys). 
 I was really hoping to be able to rebuild not only ACM version 4.7
but also that (still beta?) 4.8 with that IEEE standard for networked
distributed computation... 
 I find fast X graphics fascinating since I was a kid (what a surprise
it was to have Battle Zone, cbzone, under my first Linux install). Nothing
you can find under Windogs... as A LOT of other goodies anyway. 


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# The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64)

Section "Screen"
Driver  "accel"
Device  "California Graphics ST2000p"
Monitor "Sony Multiscan 17se"
Subsection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "320x200"
# Modes   "1024x768" "1280x1024" "1504x1128" "1600x1200" 
"1600x1280" "320x200" "400x300" "640x480" "800x600"
ViewPort0 0
   #Virtual 1024 768
   #Virtual 1280 1024
   #Virtual 1600 1280
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "320x200"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "320x200"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth   32
Modes   "320x200"
ViewPort   

Re: Filter

1997-04-27 Thread Jason Costomiris
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> Where can I get A FILTER to stop SPAM

http://spam.abuse.net

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[INSTALL]:novice questions

1997-04-27 Thread Pavel Galynin
Hello,

I am now a proud owner of a Debian Linux box! I just finished installing
the base system, everything went almost flawlessly, cool. Now I have a
copule of novice/lame, whatever you like, questions:

1. For some reason, my up/down left/right keys produce weird output to
the screen. Why? I have US keyboard, everything SHOULD be fine.
2. I need to install all the other stuff, what is the best way to do
that? I have a ppp 33.6 connection. I am probably going to install a lot
of stuff.
3. When I tried to install drivers for my CD-ROM (mitsumi), the install
didn't see my cd-rom, what can I do about it?
4. I have a bunch of other peripherals, where do I get drivers for
those?
5. Could you give me some pointers to info about building a kernel with
custom drivers, lilo config etc., all the novice questions, so that I
could RTFM and not bother people on the list with stupid questions.

TIA,
Pavel


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strange ifconfig output..

1997-04-27 Thread Paul van Berlo
Heya..

I finally got my ISDN running.. but now I'm experiencing some strange
ifconfig output, something like this:

ippp0 Link encap:Point-Point Protocol
  inet addr:194.109.15.56  P-t-P:194.109.31.5
Mask:255.255.255.255
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:74 dropped:0 overruns:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:83 overruns:0

RX shows 74 errors and TX shows 83 dropped packets.. This can't be right,
since I succesfully logged on a telnet account during that session.. I'm
using kernel release 2.1.29.. I'm also experiencing another problem.. I
rewrote the isdn script and added a line that reads:
  route add default netmask 255.255.255.0 dev ippp0
Since 2.1.29 needs a netmask with the route command.. After doing this I'm
getting name lookup errors when trying to telnet or ftp or whatever. I
cant connect to anything. When I remove the 'netmask 255.255.255.0 dev
ippp0' and change it to 'route add default ippp0' it works fine.. Maybe my
netmask is wrong but I doubt it..

Any help on solving these 2 'problems' is welcomed (and I doubt its a big
problem.. maybe I just overlooked something...)

-Paul van Berlo

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Bug-or-feature: top & 'xxxK shrd'

1997-04-27 Thread Benedikt Eric Heinen

Hi there,

  I haven't found any better explanation, but somehow I have a strange
feeling on top's output:

  1:22pm  up 17 days, 21:17,  4 users,  load average: 2.26, 0.59, 0.19
80 processes: 70 sleeping, 8 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states: 93.9% user,  6.0% system,  0.0% nice,  0.5% idle
Mem:  128044K av, 122444K used,   5600K free, 272464K shrd,  38084K buff
Swap: 128736K av,  0K used, 128736K free 35896K cached

USER  PPID   PID %CPU   VSZ  SHRD  TT STAT   TIME COMMAND
[...]
adabas   1   470  0.0 17176 13836  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 470   471  0.0 17176 13836  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 470   472  0.0 17176 13836  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 470   473  0.0 17176 13844  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 470   474  0.0 17180 13852  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 470   475  0.0 17180 13864  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 470   476  0.0 17236 13912  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 470   477  0.0 19984 13872  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 470   478  0.0 17232 13864  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 470   479  0.0 17232 13864  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 470   480  0.0 18624 15308  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 475   481  0.0 17180 13860  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 475   484  0.0 17180 13856  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 475   485  0.0 17180 13860  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 475   486  0.0 17180 13856  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 475   487  0.0 17180 13860  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 475   488  0.0 17180 13856  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
adabas 475   489  0.0 17180 13868  ?  S  0:00 /opt/adabas/pgm/db:sysdb 
[...]


I had assumed that 'xxxK shared' is the size of all pages that are used by
two or more processes (without counting those pages as often as there are
processes having access to the page). The output that I have seems to be a
simple addition of the size of shared pages within each process, which
causes quite a huge amount due to the big shared memory pages within the
Adabas D processes.

  Now, is that really the desired effect? I mean, what's the '277464K
shrd' info good for except for boasting to those Windoze people?
  I'd rather be interested in an output of total shared size, where each
shared page is only listed once...


  Benedikt

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Re: /sbin/clock not ticking

1997-04-27 Thread Alexandre Lebrun


On 27 Apr 1997, Rob Browning wrote:

> Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I don't know what /dev/rtc is, but it seems that on my brother's computer
> > it can't be opened.  It seems that this in turn allows clock to work.
> 
> Most likely it can't be opened because that device was not compiled
> into his kernel, but it was into yours.
> 
> > The strange thing is that /dev/rtc does in fact exist on my brother's
> > computer (and on mine).
> 
> Whether or not the device exists in the kernel has nothing to do with
> whether or not the device file exists on disk.  For example, if I
> compiled a kernel without sound support, the file /dev/audio might
> still exist, but if I tried to open it, the open would fail.
> 
> As to why having rtc in the kernel would cause clock to fail, I have
> no clue.
> 
> -- 
> Rob

I think rtc is for Real Time Clock
It was an option for kernel configuration.
I don't know what it is exactly, but the help said that you don't need it 
if you don't know what it is. 
It could interfere or be buggy. Try without.

That was my 2 Pfennig
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debian_user mailing list vs newsgroup

1997-04-27 Thread Stefan Eriksson

Is there a mailing list gateway from debian_user to linux.debian.user?

I subscribe both of those, because some messages does not seem appear in
both in the mailing list and the newsgroup.

I remember reading something about this a month ago or so, but I can't
really recall what the message said.

The newsgroup was almost dead in my end, until a week ago. It does not
seem to be up to date though.

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Re: Error: Too Many Open files

1997-04-27 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
On Apr 27, Troy Hanson wrote
: I am running debian linux 1.2, when I log in from the console or telnet,
: I get an error on running fortune:
: 
: /usr/share/games/fortunes/art.dat: Too many open files

Did you installed lshell?


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Re: Setting Up btmp

1997-04-27 Thread Paul Serice
> I don't know anything about why the Debian crew decided to remove
> btmp, but from my own experience a lot of people fumbles when they
> log in, and as a result they type inn the password instead of the
> username.
>
> Thus you can often find both the account-name and the password if,
> you do "lastb".


That makes a lot of sense.  I know I've done that a time or two. 
>From my experimentation though, I think Debian's btmp only logs a
failed user as "UNKNOWN" instead of by what he or she typed as their
login.  I guess that's not very useful information.
 
Paul Serice


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Re: Can't login to bo

1997-04-27 Thread Brian N. Borg
I had the same problem.  I could only log in if I booted single, eg. 
loadlin zImage root=/dev/hda3 ro single.  After a lot of trial and
error,
I determined that nis was the culprit.  If you delete all start links 
to /etc/init.d/nis in your default runlevel, and any others that you
use, 
and reboot, you should be able to log in.  In other words, delete all 
such /etc/rc?.d/S??nis.  I don't know what the problem with nis is but
I really don't need it anyway.

--Brian


Richard Jennison wrote:
> 
>  After upgrading from 1.2 to 1.3 I cannot login to the system. Each time
> I type root at the prompt and then password there is a short pause and then
> I am returned to the login promt again. None of the other passwords work
> either.
>  Dselect seemed satisfied with the installation after about 3
> runthroughs to get everything and the messages at bootup indicate only minor
> errors eg. cannot find font file /usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts/cyr_a8x16.
>  I used init 1 at the boot prompt and was able to login to sulogin and
> look at the new installation. In /etc I found a file login.access with
> everything commented out so I added '+:root:ALL' at the bottom and then ^D
> to enter run level 2 but that didn't work either.
>  Any help including suggestions on what to read to resolve this problem
> will be appreciated. I have read the man pages on login and all its xrefs
> to no avail. Is there a document which describes the boot process step by
> step specifically for this release? ie 1.3 bo. I am using kernel 2..0.30.
> 
>  Thanks Rick
> 
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tcpdump: unknown data link type 0xc

1997-04-27 Thread Lawrence Chim
Hi,

tcpdump 3.3-2 won't work for me. here is the error message:
tcpdump: unknown data link type 0xc

though I have no problem using PPP.

Lawrence,


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Re: wtmp problem

1997-04-27 Thread Karl Ferguson
At 12:56 AM 27/04/97 -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote:
>Probably it's nothing but I know for sure my utmp file got corrupted
>when my /var partition got full after the guys here at the
>office sent lots of e-mails with large attachments.
>
>I just started over with a zero length utmp and everything went fine.

That's certainly not the case with me :-)

I take it your logging into this box via a serial port?  I believe that's
the cause of it - Consoles and telnet logins appear fine for me.

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Error: Too Many Open files

1997-04-27 Thread Troy Hanson
I am running debian linux 1.2, when I log in from the console or telnet,
I get an error on running fortune:

/usr/share/games/fortunes/art.dat: Too many open files

I also get this error whenever I try to run Netscape, except relating to
the java library files (instead of art.dat):

/usr/local/netscape/java/classes/java40.jar: Too many open files

The rest of the system seems to be operating normally.  I do not know
what was changed when this started, several things were added at once
(IP Masquerading and samba), but I have added the same packages on other
systems without geting this error message.

Uptime gives:
12:05am  up 7 days,  4:41h,  2 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00

Free shows:
free   total   used   free  shared  buffers  cached
Mem:   46800   41468  5332   13556  1636017520
-/+ buffers:   7588   39212
Swap:  65516   60 65456

If it is related to file permissions, what are the default permissions
of the fortune program, and related files?

I would greatly appreciate any light shed on this. 

thanks in advance!
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Re: /sbin/clock not ticking

1997-04-27 Thread Rob Browning
Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I don't know what /dev/rtc is, but it seems that on my brother's computer
> it can't be opened.  It seems that this in turn allows clock to work.

Most likely it can't be opened because that device was not compiled
into his kernel, but it was into yours.

> The strange thing is that /dev/rtc does in fact exist on my brother's
> computer (and on mine).

Whether or not the device exists in the kernel has nothing to do with
whether or not the device file exists on disk.  For example, if I
compiled a kernel without sound support, the file /dev/audio might
still exist, but if I tried to open it, the open would fail.

As to why having rtc in the kernel would cause clock to fail, I have
no clue.

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Re: wtmp problem

1997-04-27 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Probably it's nothing but I know for sure my utmp file got corrupted
when my /var partition got full after the guys here at the
office sent lots of e-mails with large attachments.

I just started over with a zero length utmp and everything went fine.

E.-

> OK, which log file gets corrupted - the wtmp or the utmp file? Or both?
> I've heard reports about corrupted utmp files, and I'll try to fix that in 
> 2.71
> 
> >I run mgetty for the dialin lines, I hooked up a vt100 terminal to a serial
> >port on a different machine with 2.70-1 and used plain getty (well, really
> >agetty in disguise) and found the exact same thing - if I downgrade, it
> >works a treat.
> 
> Oh great, you can reproduce it. Can you tell me
> 
> 1. which logfile gets corrupted
> 2. When (before login, during session, after logout)

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Re: LILO LBA mode.

1997-04-27 Thread A. M. Varon
On Fri, 25 Apr 1997, Jim Pick wrote:

> 
> > I know I could use LBA mode.  I originally used LBA mode for months but
> > noticed a couple of possible problems.  I say possible since I can't prove
> > they were caused by using LBA mode.

hi,

The problem is not with LBA. Few months ago i recieve error messages in my
server concerning the 2 gb.EIDE harddisk. What i did was to turn off some
stuff in the bios. like turning off ide 32 bit access, ide hdd block mode,
etc. i've heard linux does'nt use it anyway because linux uses it's own
driver. 

After that, syslog does'nt report any problems with the harddisk.

Hope this helps,

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Re: /sbin/clock not ticking

1997-04-27 Thread Mark Phillips

I wrote:

> When I try and set the CMOS clock I get the following error:
> 
> # /sbin/clock -u -w
> ioctl: Invalid argument

Someone kindly suggested I run "strace clock".  I am not familiar with
strace, but it did seem to give some potentially useful information.

I tried running clock on my brother's computer (also running debian) and
it works fine on his system.  I compared the strace from his clock with
the output from mine.  There were a few differences, but the most relevant
was:

My brother's output:
open("/dev/rtc", O_RDONLY)  = -1 ENODEV (No such device)
iopl(0x3)   = 0

My output:
open("/dev/rtc", O_RDONLY)  = 3
ioctl(3, 0x7003, 0) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument)
write(2, "ioctl: Invalid argument\n", 24ioctl: Invalid argument) = 24


I don't know what /dev/rtc is, but it seems that on my brother's computer
it can't be opened.  It seems that this in turn allows clock to work.

The strange thing is that /dev/rtc does in fact exist on my brother's
computer (and on mine).

On my brother's computer:
# ls -laF /dev/rtc
crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys   10, 135 Jan  1  1970 /dev/rtc

All very strange.



The other thing of possible interest is that my brother's computer
opens an older version of libc.so:

open("/lib/libc.so.5.4.13", O_RDONLY)   = 3

Whereas on my computer:

open("/lib/libc.so.5.4.23", O_RDONLY)   = 3

I don't know whether this would have anything to do with it?  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

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hamm

1997-04-27 Thread edwalter
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What is the appropriate method of pointing the ftp method of dselect to
the hamm distribution.  I have tried the following.  Each has it's own
problem:


ftpsite: llug.sep.bnl.gov

debian base: /pub/debian
distributions: unstable non-free contrib
problem: these aren't the hamm non-free and hamm-contrib.  They are
stable

debian base: /pub/debian/hamm
distributions: hamm non-free contrib
problem: paths in Packages file assume debian base of /pub/debian so
files aren't found (ie. ftp method looks for
/pub/debian/hamm/unstable/...)

debian base: /pub/debian
distributions: unstable hamm/non-free hamm/contrib
problem: dpkg --merge names the Packages file Pacakges.hamm_non-free
and Packages.hamm_contrib but ftp method expects something else (it
complains that the Packages file is missing and I should run Update).
This is clearly caused by the '/' in the distribution name.

Is there a solution?  Or is this an unresolved bug with the ftp
method?  Should there be some kind of unstable-non-free and
unstable-contrib symlinks in the /pub/debian?

Thanks,
Erv

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List active?

1997-04-27 Thread Rick Jones
I haven't recv'd anything from the list for hours, which is very unusual.
Is it down or is something wrong at my ISP?  Or is everyone at the club
tonight?

--Rick

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Re: How do I remove gpm?

1997-04-27 Thread Bob Nielsen
gpm_1.10-2.deb from a Debian 1.2.5 installation.

On Sun, 27 Apr 1997, Martin Schulze wrote:

> On Apr 26, Bob Nielsen wrote
> > That took care of it.  Thanks
> 
> Can you tell me which version of gpm you used?  I just spoke to
> James Troup who is the new maintainer.  He has a different solution
> to the problem but there should be no problem anymore.
> 
> Regards... Joey
> 
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> 


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/sbin/clock not ticking

1997-04-27 Thread Mark Phillips

When I try and set the CMOS clock I get the following error:

# /sbin/clock -u -w
ioctl: Invalid argument

I would be most grateful if someone could tell me why it doesn't work.

Thanks.

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Problem with xlockmore

1997-04-27 Thread Michael Q. Le
When I lock the screen with xlock and I continuously click the middle
mouse button on my Logitech mouse to cycle through the different
screensavers, xlock exits with the following error:

X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
  Major opcode of failed request:  78 (X_CreateColormap)
  Serial number of failed request:  20908
  Current serial number in output stream:  20913

Sometimes, xlock also seems to mysteriously exit with this error without
any keyboard or mouse input. I am using all of the packages from the
frozen tree.

Thanks for any help,

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