Re: kernel free page

1997-04-30 Thread Christopher W Hafey
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from "G. Kapetanios" at "Apr 30, 97 01:44:44 pm"
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G. Kapetanios)

And George said:

> Re: kernel free page

> Recently I compiled and installed kernel 2.0.30.
> Today I got two messages I have never got  before
> 
> garfield kernel: Couldn't get a free page
> garfield eth0: Memory squeeze, deferring packet
> 
> Does anyone know what these mean ??
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>   George 

Hi George,

I don't know exactly what they mean.  I get similar ones,
and a ttyS0 overrun one, and a couple of others.

I just tell myself that the kernel always acted on these
same symptoms before, only it didn't bother to report them
to the console, whereas now it does.  Or, perhaps, these
errors are being logged to a high-profile alert system,
instead of silently to disk log, by programming oversight.

You know?  I'm probably kidding myself.  Heh.

Christopher
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p.s.  Here are all related errors, logged, since the new 
  kernel build on Sunday (a little compressed in format, 
  for decorum's sake):

Apr 27 16:06:15 tingri kernel:
 Loaded 3876 symbols from /boot/System.map.
Apr 27 16:06:15 tingri kernel: Symbols match kernel version.
Apr 27 16:06:15 tingri kernel:
 Linux version 2.0.30 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 (gcc version 2.7.2.1) #1 Sun Apr 27 09:30:24 EDT 1997
Apr 28 04:08:54 Apr 28 04:54:10 Apr 28 05:07:20 Apr 29 04:04:51
Apr 29 04:11:23 tingri kernel: .. all said: ttyS0: 1 input overrun(s)
Apr 29 06:06:38 tingri kernel: Couldn't get a free page.
Apr 29 06:06:40 tingri kernel:
 eth0: Couldn't allocate a sk_buff of size 1514.
Apr 29 06:06:40 tingri kernel:
 eth0: Couldn't allocate a sk_buff of size 1514.
Apr 30 04:00:31 tingri kernel: ttyS0: 1 input overrun(s)
Apr 30 04:31:33 tingri kernel: ttyS0: 1 input overrun(s)

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Re: Amiga Filesystem mounting bother.

1997-04-30 Thread Anders Hammarquist
>Ok, just noticed this in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help:
>
>
>Amiga FFS filesystem support (EXPERIMENTAL)
>CONFIG_AFFS_FS
>The Fast File System (FFS) is the common filesystem used on harddisks
>by Amiga (tm) Systems since AmigaOS Version 1.3 (34.20)...

If you want to be able to mount hard disks you also need
CONFIG_AMIGA_PARTITION in order for the kernel to understand the
partition table on the disk. (This option does not seem to be
mentioned in Configure.help.)

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Re: Colors and Packages overview

1997-04-30 Thread Eric Delaunay
Richard Kilgore wrote:
> On Apr 30, Jim Smith wrote
> >alfred de Groot wrote:
> >> 
> >> Recently I switched from Slackware to Debian. What I miss are the colors
> >> wich indicates directorys and other special files. How can I get those
> >> colors back?
> >
> >Try "alias ls=ls -color=auto" in your .bashrc.
> >
> 
> You may also need to fiddle with /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm[-color]
> to get colors in an xterm.  The color assignments are in
> XTerm-color, and I've never figured out how this file ever gets
> sourced.  I always just rename XTerm to XTerm-nocolor, create a
> soft link from XTerm to XTerm-color, and change the "#include"
> line in XTerm-color to include XTerm-nocolor.  Then, I think you
> have to invoke the xterm command with the "+cm" options.

Just add

*customization: -color

in your .Xresources (maybe .Xdefaults) or better add it to system wide
/etc/X11/Xresources.
Then all app-defaults files ending with -color will be used instead of the
standard ones.

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Audio, Printer queue and Mouse button

1997-04-30 Thread Daniel Karlsson
Hi!

I've got three questions:

1) I have no sound on my computer. I guess I don't have a proper module
installed, but I don't seem to have one. Could anyone tell me its name if
this is the fault? I have a Soundblaster 32 sound card. It works fine with
Windows so there's no wrong with the card.

2) How do I empty the printer queue?

3) How can I make my middle mouse button work. I've tried all options in the
configuration, but none of them works.

Thank you,

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Re: Playing WAV and other format

1997-04-30 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Rob Browning wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luis Francisco Gonzalez) writes:
> 
> > is there any program that will be able to play WAV and possbly other 
> > formats?
> 
> bplay and xanim for starters.
> 
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I couldn't get bplay to work. So, I got the original sndkit from sunsite
and compiled it myself. This utility is great: it actually can play the
.wav files from my Win95 partition.

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E-Mail Setup Question - new server

1997-04-30 Thread Kevin Traas

I'm going to be making some changes to my Internet configuration and I need
some help/pointers on making the changes to the e-mail configuration.

I've currently got an old server running SCO Unix - name is "vnet".  Right
now, it is configured for UUCP transfer of e-mail from the Internet.

I've got a new server running Debian GNU/Linux - name is "hicks".

- All e-mail on the old system comes to/from the DN and the server the user
resides on is "hidden".
- The old SCO box is being dropped in favour of the Linux box. (YeeHaw!!!
)
- The user accounts on vnet don't yet exist on hicks.
- I'd like to do a one-time "flip-of-the-switch" where all mail from the
Internet get sent to mailboxes on hicks rather than vnet.

Can you help me out by answering the following and/or expounding on what
I'm in for?  TIA

1.  The accounts on vnet will have to exist on hicks before hicks will
accept e-mail for those users, right?
2.  What problems might I have with incoming mail?  i.e. If a message was
addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], then it's going to bounce because vnet no
longer exists.  What about mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks for your help,

Kevin Traas
Systems Analyst
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Re: Colors and Packages overview

1997-04-30 Thread Richard Kilgore
On Apr 30, Jim Smith wrote
>alfred de Groot wrote:
>> 
>> Recently I switched from Slackware to Debian. What I miss are the colors
>> wich indicates directorys and other special files. How can I get those
>> colors back?
>
>Try "alias ls=ls -color=auto" in your .bashrc.
>

You may also need to fiddle with /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm[-color]
to get colors in an xterm.  The color assignments are in
XTerm-color, and I've never figured out how this file ever gets
sourced.  I always just rename XTerm to XTerm-nocolor, create a
soft link from XTerm to XTerm-color, and change the "#include"
line in XTerm-color to include XTerm-nocolor.  Then, I think you
have to invoke the xterm command with the "+cm" options.

   later,

   - rick

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Re: Using LILO...

1997-04-30 Thread Max HYRE
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   Dear Mr. Scheetz:

   Oh, goodie---now maybe I can pay back some of the help you've given in the
past :-).  The following assumes that your failure mode is that booting still
puts you right into DOS with no indication that LILO ever runs.  (I.e., you
don't see ``LILO'' appear on the screen at boot time.)  If I'm mistaken, send
more info.

   For my money, the best way to start out using LILO is to edit lilo.conf to
say:

boot=/dev/fd0

instead of what I suspect it now says:

boot=/dev/hdb

then
o put a floppy in
o run lilo (as root :-))
o set your BIOS to try to boot from A: before C:
o leaving the floppy in, reboot

If this doesn't work the way you want, fiddle with lilo.conf until it does.

   The _big_ advantage is that you're only screwing up a floppy if something
goes wrong---you pretty much can't render your hard drive unbootable.

   Once things are arranged to your satisfaction, you're ready to decide where
to put the LILO boot loader on your hard drive.  Since you have only a single
DOS partition on hda, your choices are:

boot=/dev/hda

using the current partitioning setup, or repartition (using FIPS to avoid
backup/restore) to give yourself a small second partion (it doesn't have to be
Linux, it could even be a second DOS partition), say /dev/hda2, and say

boot=/dev/hda2

The advantage of the latter setup is that you don't touch your DOS MBR---just
set hda2 to be the active partition, and the DOS MBR will hand control over to
LILO.  Then if something goes wrong (like, say, you install Windows 95), it
doesn't touch LILO---you can use DOS's fdisk to reset hda2 as the active
partition, and Shazam!, LILO's back in the saddle.

   This is the Reader's Digest condensed version of what works for me---if
you'd like more detail, don't hesitate to write.

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Max Hyre

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mirror sym links

1997-04-30 Thread Brandon Mitchell
Hi everyone,

I know I saw a question about sym links with the mirror program a while
ago, and I was just wondering if a solution was ever found.  I'm basically
trying to get a mirror of debian before I go home for the summer without
an ethernet.  If symlinks can't be extracted to the actual file, perhaps
someone has a config file for mirror of stable, contrib, non-free, and
the boot disk for i386 already done. I saw the example file that comes
with mirror, but it filled up my harddrive (300+ megs were free).  I'm
assuming this is because it was getting too much.  I'll figure this out
for myself later, but I'm on a time constraint now, and I don't want to
keep downloading the same files over and over again.

TIA,
Brandon

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Re: Playing WAV and other format

1997-04-30 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luis Francisco Gonzalez) writes:

> is there any program that will be able to play WAV and possbly other formats?

bplay and xanim for starters.

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Playing WAV and other format

1997-04-30 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
Hi,
is there any program that will be able to play WAV and possbly other formats?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-04-30 Thread Vadim Vygonets
On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Barrington King wrote:

> is there a single command for removing all trace of users from the system
> similar to adduser, but in reverse?

Try deluser or userdel.

Vadik.

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Re: module problem

1997-04-30 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
You'll need the kernel-source and pcmcia-source packages.
Configure the kernel by running "make config" in
/usr/src/linux. Then build the modules by executing "debian/rules
binary-modules" in the /usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs directory.
Finally, install the resulting package using "dpkg --install
pcmcia-modules...".   All is well documented in
/usr/doc/kernel-source and /usr/doc/pcmcia-source.

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On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Jason Killen wrote:

> Just how easy is it?  (aka what FM should I read?)
> 
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote
> :
> >I usually have to rebuild the modules myself.  Simple to do.
> >
> >-- 
> >Jean Pierre
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Jason Killen wrote:
> >
> >> I hope this hasn't already been talked about.
> >> 
> >> I installed the sources and modules for kernel 2.0.30 from the unstable
> >> directory and when I boot I get this message :
> >> 
> >> Loading Failed! The module symbols (from linux-2.0.30) don't match your 
> >> linux-2.0.30.


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Re: depmod error reading ELF header

1997-04-30 Thread Dima
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>i just tried to make the modules by hand and then install them with
>'make modules_install' (instead of using make-kpkg) and none of the
>*_MODULES files were copied to /lib/modules/2.x.x. make-kpkg
>explicitly copies these files to that directory ...

Yes, I'll have a look at make-kpkg bug reports and submit this.
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Re: depmod error reading ELF header

1997-04-30 Thread Dima
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:

>Did you remove misc/NET_MISC_MODULES or whatever it is?

Thanks.  I overlooked this one.

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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-04-30 Thread Dirk Herr-Hoyman
At 12:52 PM 4/30/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Under /usr/sbin there is a program called "deluser".  Odd thing, though, I
couldn't
>find a man page for it, and it wasn't listed in the "see also" section of the
>"adduser" man page -- so it isn't obvious at all that it is there :-|
>

If you look at /usr/sbin/deluser directly, you'll see it's a Perl script.
A quickly hack too, judging both on the comments and on the functionality.

I just went thru the exercise of setting up a Debian based server for a
community network, and I ended up modifying both adduser and deluser (and
delgroup) for our purposes.  Is is just me, or is it really the case that
no Unix has decent tools for administering user accounts :-), I've pretty
much had to do this on every Unix system I've touched over the years ...
but now I'm straying :-)  

The point is (and perhaps I should be directing this at the developer list)
that there really is not a good utility maintaining accounts in Unix and
nor in Debian.  The ones that do work are always idiosyncratic to some
flavor of Unix.  And for no particular reason, as the underlying passwd and
group files use the same formats (or system calls, if you want to go that
route).  This is, like, the very first thing you need to do once you bring
a system up, start adding accounts.  Ought to be more bullet proof than we
see here.

So, just like Debian has put forth a great deal of effort in the dpkg, and
I take my hat off to it, there ought to be a similar effort put forth for
user account administration.  My question here, is whether there is such an
effort under way?
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Re: Using LILO...

1997-04-30 Thread Rick Jones

Just put the MBR on hda.  I don't believe the rest makes a difference
since I use lilo to boot my kernel images from hdb3 using hda2 as root
partition.

I have a 2.5 MB partition (hdb3) that I mount as /kernel.  This is to
avoid the 1023 cylinder limit.  My hdb is only 85 MB.

The MBR has to be on the first HD if your bios won't boot anything but
A,C.  If you can adjust it in the BIOS to boot your hdb then that should
fix it too.



On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> I have personaly used loadlin to boot my kernel since day 1, but lately I
> have been doing a lot of testing and determined to try to figure out how
> to use LILO. I have been less than successful, and I only vaguely
> understand why.
> Here is the situation: The machine is an old 486 with 8 meg of memory and
> two 1.2 Gig IDE drives. The first drive is one big DOS partition. The
> second drive is two linux partitions (650 meg and 320 meg) and an almost
> 100 meg swap partition.
> My last test involved upgrading a 1.1.13 system to bo. When I installed
> the new lilo package I answered yes to installing lilo; yes to installing
> the mbr on hdb; and yes to making hdb1 the active partition. On reboot,
> the machine came up in DOS.
> I assume that this was because both lilo and mbr were on the "wrong"
> device to be recognized at bootup. How do I get them onto the hda drive,
> and will they work there with the config information on hdb1?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Dwarf
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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-04-30 Thread Harmon Sequoya Nine
Under /usr/sbin there is a program called "deluser".  Odd thing, though, I 
couldn't
find a man page for it, and it wasn't listed in the "see also" section of the
"adduser" man page -- so it isn't obvious at all that it is there :-|

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Re: Daylight savings time?

1997-04-30 Thread Vadim Vygonets
On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote:

> I was wondering if there is a way to get my clock to automatically adjust
> for daylight savings time in the spring and fall.  Is there an environment
> variable or something?  I've tried "TZ=EST5EDT" as on some other UNIX systems,
> but it doesn't seem towork in LINUX.

What I do is set the BIOS clock to GMT and edit /etc/init.d/boot (it
should say CMT="-u").  But if you set the BIOS clock to your local
time -- then I don't know.

Vadik.

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Using LILO...

1997-04-30 Thread Dale Scheetz
I have personaly used loadlin to boot my kernel since day 1, but lately I
have been doing a lot of testing and determined to try to figure out how
to use LILO. I have been less than successful, and I only vaguely
understand why.
Here is the situation: The machine is an old 486 with 8 meg of memory and
two 1.2 Gig IDE drives. The first drive is one big DOS partition. The
second drive is two linux partitions (650 meg and 320 meg) and an almost
100 meg swap partition.
My last test involved upgrading a 1.1.13 system to bo. When I installed
the new lilo package I answered yes to installing lilo; yes to installing
the mbr on hdb; and yes to making hdb1 the active partition. On reboot,
the machine came up in DOS.
I assume that this was because both lilo and mbr were on the "wrong"
device to be recognized at bootup. How do I get them onto the hda drive,
and will they work there with the config information on hdb1?

TIA,

Dwarf
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Re: Colors and Packages overview

1997-04-30 Thread Jim Smith
alfred de Groot wrote:
> 
> Recently I switched from Slackware to Debian. What I miss are the colors
> wich indicates directorys and other special files. How can I get those
> colors back?

Try "alias ls=ls -color=auto" in your .bashrc.

> Second question is how can I get a overview of installed packages, before
> instaling new packages?

Do a dpkg -l | more (or less) to list them on your screen. "dpkg -l
>installed.txt" will create a file which you can then open with any editor or 
>print out for a hard copy.
> 
> ---
> Alfred de Groot
> Nog in het gelukkige bezit van een kabelmodem, nog wel.

Cable Modems in Holland? I'm jealous.

Luck...

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Fatal error: Unable to handle kernel...

1997-04-30 Thread LinuxBOX
Does anyone knows the reason why the following error is happenning:
Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address e023c030
Current  Tss.cr3=00446000, %cr3=00446000
*Pde= 
Oops:
Cpu:0
EIP:0010:[<0012d2e5>]
EFlags:00010216
eax:0002 .
esi:00086e88 .
ds:0018 .
Process getty (pid:974,process nr:4, stackpage=006b5000)

Thank you.


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Re: AccelX and Xfree together

1997-04-30 Thread Kai Grossjohann
> Chris Hanson writes:

  Chris> [...] In the future, you will have to be careful not to
  Chris> update the XFree86 server package accidentally, because this
  Chris> will overwrite the AcceleratedX server. [...]

I didn't change any symlinks.  I went into the X86 config file (forget
the exact name) and changed the name of the server there.  As Debian
package installations are careful not to overwrite your config files,
you won't have any problems.

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Re: Daylight savings time?

1997-04-30 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harmon Sequoya Nine) writes:

> I was wondering if there is a way to get my clock to automatically adjust
> for daylight savings time in the spring and fall.  Is there an environment
> variable or something?  I've tried "TZ=EST5EDT" as on some other UNIX systems,
> but it doesn't seem to work in LINUX.

Hmm, I used tzconfig to set my timezone to US/Central, and it worked
fine when daylight savings rolled around.

(Unfortunately, rebooting to Win95 will screw it up.  Win95 will
notice the time change and reset the *hardware* clock for you without
asking -- thought it does at least tell you about it.)

Moral -- don't reboot to Win95.
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Re: rsh with .rhosts problems

1997-04-30 Thread Rob Browning
"Eloy A. Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Can you send the .rhosts in both hosts to the list?
> 
> As I remember it, the rshd is very picky about the way you specify
> the hpost name in .rhosts. I think is has to be the same string
> the gethostbyaddr() (the resolver) returns.

Also, check /etc/hosts.{accept,deny}

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Re: module problem

1997-04-30 Thread Jason Killen
Just how easy is it?  (aka what FM should I read?)

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote
:
>I usually have to rebuild the modules myself.  Simple to do.
>
>-- 
>Jean Pierre
>
>
>On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Jason Killen wrote:
>
>> I hope this hasn't already been talked about.
>> 
>> I installed the sources and modules for kernel 2.0.30 from the unstable
>> directory and when I boot I get this message :
>> 
>> Loading Failed! The module symbols (from linux-2.0.30) don't match your 
>> linux-2.0.30.
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Re: rsh with .rhosts problems

1997-04-30 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Can you send the .rhosts in both hosts to the list?

As I remember it, the rshd is very picky about the way you specify
the hpost name in .rhosts. I think is has to be the same string
the gethostbyaddr() (the resolver) returns.

I hope this helps.

E.-

> 
>  Hello, 
> 
> does someone know any peculiarities with rsh and .rhosts?  I would
> like to transfer per cron job certain files from hotsA to hostB with
> rsh and pipes.  The rsh-pipe-mechanism works fine for certain hosts,
> and does not for others for permission denied problems.  They all are
> running the net*-packages from the stable tree, and the .rhosts files
> are triple checked as to be ok.
> 
> e.g., why this?!
> 
> --> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# rsh -l normaluser hostB.full.domain.name date
> --> Permission denied.
> 
> --> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# rsh -l normaluser hostA.full.domain.name date
> --> Wed Apr 30 09:56:53 MET DST 1997

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Daylight savings time?

1997-04-30 Thread Harmon Sequoya Nine

I was wondering if there is a way to get my clock to automatically adjust
for daylight savings time in the spring and fall.  Is there an environment
variable or something?  I've tried "TZ=EST5EDT" as on some other UNIX systems,
but it doesn't seem to work in LINUX.

Thanks in advance for any info. :-)

-- Harmon


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Re: /dev/ttyS3-permission for efax-user

1997-04-30 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Michael J. Maravillo wrote:


> How about "chmod ugo+rw /dev/ttyS3"
> 
Thanks.  Problem solved.

Johann. :)

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Sendmail performance tuning question

1997-04-30 Thread Pete Templin

I'm running into some errors trying to use some of the more advanced
performance tuning features of sendmail 8.8.5.  If you're responsible for
a debian system running sendmail and you're using any of these features:

Single Threaded Delivery  <- the most important one to me
Host Status Directory
Deferred delivery mode

please contact me.  Thanks!

Pete

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Re: Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-04-30 Thread Barrington King
>deluser
>


Thanks.  Couldn't find ref to it in man.

Rgds,

BK



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Is there an opposite to adduser?

1997-04-30 Thread Barrington King

is there a single command for removing all trace of users from the system
similar to adduser, but in reverse?

BK



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RE: fdisk problem - can't seek

1997-04-30 Thread Alan Schrank
Thanks Harmon your advice worked.  I will log this as a problem.
- Al

-Original Message-
From:   Harmon Sequoya Nine [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Tuesday, April 29, 1997 12:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:Re: fdisk problem - can't seek

Assuming you are using "cfdisk", the fdisk utility that is run as part of the
initial Debian installation (i.e. the 6 disks).

I had the same problem when I partitioned a large disk.  I particular I was
partitioning it into several logical partitions on the outer-most part
of the disk.  "cfdisk" did not like this and gave me the error you mentioned.

To solve this, what I had to do was "Execute a shell", which is the last item
on the debian installation sequence menu (i.e. the large menu you get when
performing an initial install, first item is "partition a hard disk, etc."

Then from the shell, I executed the old "fdisk" utility, which is a not-as-
nice-looking-but-sufficient precursor of "cfdisk".  It's use is self-explanatory
(type 'm' for help, etc.).

Incidentally, I was going to report this but forgot! :-(

Once you've partitioned with "fdisk" instead of "cfdisk", go back into the
Debian installation procedure by typing "exit" at the shell prompt.
DO NOT go into "partition a hard disk" at this point, since you've already
done it with fdisk, and you'll just get that cfdisk-error that you got
before.  Jusr move right on to the next step in installation.

Hope this works (did for me)!

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Re: module problem

1997-04-30 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
I usually have to rebuild the modules myself.  Simple to do.

-- 
Jean Pierre


On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Jason Killen wrote:

> I hope this hasn't already been talked about.
> 
> I installed the sources and modules for kernel 2.0.30 from the unstable
> directory and when I boot I get this message :
> 
> Loading Failed! The module symbols (from linux-2.0.30) don't match your 
> linux-2.0.30.


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Re: Error Message of kerneld?

1997-04-30 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
I just noticed this in the context of mounting a vfat
partition. I didn't notice any problems here but I did find
a solution. 

The order of entries in /etc/fstab is important.  Make sure
that the proc filesystem is first.  This eliminated the
problem for me.

-- 
Jean Pierre


On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Andreas Tille wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> when starting my Debian box I get the following error message:
> 
> Loadin modules
> /etc/init.d/kerneld: cd: /proc/sys: No such file or directory
> 
> It is the same for different kernel versions (2.0.29 from HD or
> 2.0.25 from an old floppy).
> 
> What consequences could happen?
> 
> I get some warnings about unresolved symbols while `depmod -a'.
> Is there any connection? If not I ask the depmod-problem more
> detailed in another question.


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Re: clear screen on logout

1997-04-30 Thread Jonas Bofjall
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Ryan Shaw wrote:

> i'd like the screen cleared on logout and the login prompt to appear at
> the top.  i've worked around this by using an alias in bashrc, but i'm

If you want if for every login, put a `clear screen' in your /etc/issue
like this:

clear > /tmp/banan
cat /etc/issue >> /tmp/banan
mv /tmp/banan /etc/issue

and don't forget to change the issue.net too, if it isn't a link to issue!

Alternatively, you can use `mingetty' instead of whatever getty you use on
local logins. Something like this:
in your /etc/inittab change the gettys to something like:

1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1

and so on for as many virual consoles you'd like (not more than are
compiled into your kernel though..)

mingetty clears the screen before displaying the login prompt by default.
To learn more see `man mingetty'. I use mingetty for my local console.
Its advantage is the screen clearing but also it uses less memory than the
other gettys. Its disadvantage is that it is only for local logins, you
can't use it for serial lines (modems and such..).

I hope this solves your problem.

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kernel free page

1997-04-30 Thread G. Kapetanios

Hi,

Recently I compiled and installed kernel 2.0.30.
Today I got two messages I have never got  before

garfield kernel: Couldn't get a free page
garfield eth0: Memory squeeze, deferring packet

Does anyone know what these mean ??

Thanks in advance for any help.
  George 


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Re: clear screen on logout

1997-04-30 Thread Felix Almeida
> From: Ryan Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user 
> Subject: clear screen on logout
> Date: Tuesday, April 29, 1997 12:50 PM
> 
> i've looked through the archives and haven't found an answer as of yet. 
> i'd like the screen cleared on logout and the login prompt to appear at
> the top.  i've worked around this by using an alias in bashrc, but i'm
> sure there is a better way.
> 
> any ideas?

  Put a line like this in your .bash_logout (if you use bash):

clear


Felix.


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kernel panic (in swapper task..)

1997-04-30 Thread Paul van Berlo
Heya..

Wellps.. thanks for the response to my last email.. I think I have a more
serious problem now.. Whenever my system starts using swap I get a kernel
panic.. Something like 'in swapper task - unable to sync'... And my system
hangs.. has anyone experienced this before? Since its really annoying me..
I'm using kernel 2.1.29 and mount 2.6d-1.. I cant think of anything that I
did wrong...

TIA,
-Paul

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Colors and Packages overview

1997-04-30 Thread alfred de Groot
Recently I switched from Slackware to Debian. What I miss are the colors
wich indicates directorys and other special files. How can I get those
colors back?
Second question is how can I get a overview of installed packages, before
instaling new packages?


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Re: clear screen on logout

1997-04-30 Thread Tommy van Leeuwen
just to throw myself in the thread. ;)

/etc/issue is a pre-logon file and has nothing to do with logging out.
(well, it gets displayed after you log out)

but forget about it just put 'clear' in ~/.logout and tadaaa!
I haven't seen anyone mentioning .logout and probably .login also works.

greets

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Error Message of kerneld?

1997-04-30 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello,

when starting my Debian box I get the following error message:

Loadin modules
/etc/init.d/kerneld: cd: /proc/sys: No such file or directory

It is the same for different kernel versions (2.0.29 from HD or
2.0.25 from an old floppy).

What consequences could happen?

I get some warnings about unresolved symbols while `depmod -a'.
Is there any connection? If not I ask the depmod-problem more
detailed in another question.

Andreas.


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Re: /dev/ttyS3-permission for efax-user

1997-04-30 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael J. Maravillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Johann Spies wrote:
>
>>When I tried "fax send -m foo" as user, I received the following error
>>message.
>>
>>efax: removed stale lock /var/lock/LCK..ttyS3 from pid 373
>>efax: Error: tty device open
>>/dev/ttyS3:Permission denied
>>efax: done, returning 2
>>
>>I then (as su) typed 
>>  
>>  chmod u+rw /dev/ttyS3
>>
>>but it did not help.
>
>How about "chmod ugo+rw /dev/ttyS3"

If you are the only user on your system, then you can do that. Otherwise,
you've just allowed everybody to use the modem and dial to those nice
Australian BBS'es :)

The correct thing to do, is to make /dev/ttyS3 owned by root:dialout,
mode 0660 (crw-rw---). Then add any user that must have access to a
dialout device to the group "dialout" (edit /etc/group with "vigr").

If you also happen to run mgetty on the serial port, edit /etc/mgetty.config
and make sure mgetty resets the port modes to root:dialout mode 0660

Mike.
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Re: /dev/ttyS3-permission for efax-user

1997-04-30 Thread Michael J. Maravillo
On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Johann Spies wrote:

>When I tried "fax send -m foo" as user, I received the following error
>message.
>
>efax: removed stale lock /var/lock/LCK..ttyS3 from pid 373
>efax: Error: tty device open
>/dev/ttyS3:Permission denied
>efax: done, returning 2
>
>I then (as su) typed 
>  
>  chmod u+rw /dev/ttyS3
>
>but it did not help.

How about "chmod ugo+rw /dev/ttyS3"


Mike
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/dev/ttyS3-permission for efax-user

1997-04-30 Thread Johann Spies
Hallo,

I am nou using Linux for about 8 months and previously could not get
fax software running on my Debian-system.  I tried again last night
and enjoyed more success than previous times trying to get efax
running using a Zoltrix 14400 modem.

When I tried "fax send -m foo" as user, I received the following error
message.

efax: removed stale lock /var/lock/LCK..ttyS3 from pid 373
efax: Error: tty device open
/dev/ttyS3:Permission denied
efax: done, returning 2

I then (as su) typed 
  
  chmod u+rw /dev/ttyS3

but it did not help.

When I run the fax command as su the there is no similar problem: 

efax: removed stale lock /var/lock/LCK..ttyS3 from pid 416
efax: opened /dev/ttyS3

ls /dev/ttyS3 produces


rcrw-rw   1 root tty4,  67 Apr 30 09:05 /dev/ttyS3



Can somebody help me please.  


Johann

Johann Spies
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rsh with .rhosts problems

1997-04-30 Thread Dr. Andreas Wehler
 Hello, 

does someone know any peculiarities with rsh and .rhosts?  I would
like to transfer per cron job certain files from hotsA to hostB with
rsh and pipes.  The rsh-pipe-mechanism works fine for certain hosts,
and does not for others for permission denied problems.  They all are
running the net*-packages from the stable tree, and the .rhosts files
are triple checked as to be ok.

e.g., why this?!

--> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# rsh -l normaluser hostB.full.domain.name date
--> Permission denied.

--> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# rsh -l normaluser hostA.full.domain.name date
--> Wed Apr 30 09:56:53 MET DST 1997


 Thanks!
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Re: AccelX and Xfree together

1997-04-30 Thread Franck LE GALL - STAGIAIRE A FT.BD/CNET/DTD/PIH
-> I`ve just got hold of AccelX2.1 but already have xbase installed for
-> Debian1.2.8 . Is it OK to install AccelX in as well as xbase? If not, 
-> what happens to the dependancies on xbase?
-> 
-> TIA



You must have xbase installed to install AccelX.


Franck


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module problem

1997-04-30 Thread Jason Killen

I hope this hasn't already been talked about.

I installed the sources and modules for kernel 2.0.30 from the unstable
directory and when I boot I get this message :

Loading Failed! The module symbols (from linux-2.0.30) don't match your 
linux-2.0.30.

Does anyone know how to fix this??


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Re: help!

1997-04-30 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
Umm, folks, majordomo-users isn't the place to be discussing your favorite
MTA.  Each has its advantages and disadvantages, and it is up to the
administrator of the particular installation to choose which one is
appropriate.  Majordomo works equally well with most of them.

Kindly trim the CC list if you want to continue.

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Re: Copying a system (Was Re: Directory permissions.)

1997-04-30 Thread Rob Browning
Rick Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The reason I opted for mc in the first place was for the ability to tag or
> untag directories to avoid copying /proc and the /mnt directories.  Since
> it had the option to retain UID's and GID's I thought it was a safe
> option.  I backfired on me which I think is a bug and will report it as
> such.

You could avoid proc and mnt like this:

# UNTESTED #
(cd / && \
 find `ls | egrep -v 'proc|mnt'` | \
 afio -o - (cd wherever && afio -i -))

This should move all directories from "/" to wherever, ignoring proc
and mnt and preserving all permissions.  You could also use find's
-prune option instead of the nested ls, and you could use find's
-mount option to avoid mounts like /mnt, or -fstype to avoid nfs or
other filesystems.

-- 
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Re: help!

1997-04-30 Thread George Bonser

Linuxconf handles mailertable databases?  I am not talking about
sendmail.cf here.  Even if Linuxconf DID handle it, poking in the routing
information for 50 sites by hand from uucp maps is rediculous when you
just run a single command (pathalias) that configured the routing table
for you.


On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Network Administrator wrote:

> 
> On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, George Bonser wrote:
> > Yeah, sendmail is ok till you have to deal with editing routing for a
> > large uucp network :)  mailertables are a PAIN compared to pathalias.
> 
> Ah but Linuxconf presumably insulates one from the gory details, so the
> ease of use of Linuxconf kind of makes up for the lack of ease of use of
> the underlying config files that Linuxconf manipulates for one; and
> Linuxconf doesnt handle smail at all. That was what convinced me to make
> the switch to sendmail, after long staying with smail for its easier
> configuring. ts hard to get easier than Linuxconf, and if it lacks
> something, bitching to Linuxconf's author tends to get results fairly
> swiftly lately.
> 
> Blessed Be. -MarkM-
> 
> --
> We do remote Linux install, config, support and administration. Inquire.
> 
> "The saddest thing is they WANT to be ignorant, INSIST on it in fact."
> 
> 
> 

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Re: ctype.h

1997-04-30 Thread Jesse Goldman
Hi,

I'm not sure what causes this problem but I've run into it once or twice
before. Possibly, your routine is looking for "/usr/include/ctype.h"  and
what it's getting is "/usr/include/linux/ctype.h" which is different.  If
your "/usr/include/ctype.h" file contains the "#include_next ..." line,
it's wrong and should be replaced. This is probably most easily done by
getting the package for libc5-dev_5.4.23-2 (or whatever's current) and
reinstalling it. This seemed to fix things for me.

J. Goldman



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ctype.h

1997-04-30 Thread James LewisMoss
I'm getting some errors while compiling after upgrading my system
recently (and no I have no idea what was actually upgraded.  it was
from unstable (yea I know), and I baiscally let dselect choose).
Anyway doing `locate ctype.h' on my machine gets me:
/usr/bcc/include/ctype.h
/usr/i486-linuxaout/include/ctype.h
/usr/i486-linuxaout/include/linux/ctype.h
/usr/include/ctype.h
/usr/include/g++/std/cctype.h
/usr/include/g++/std/cwctype.h
/usr/include/linux/ctype.h
/usr/include/wctype.h
/usr/local/src/CVSROOT/edg/include/ctype.h,v
/usr/local/src/devel/libs/libc/glibc-2.0/ctype.h
/usr/local/src/devel/libs/libc/glibc-2.0/ctype/ctype.h
/usr/local/src/devel/libs/libc/glibc-2.0/wctype.h
/usr/local/src/devel/libs/libc/glibc-2.0/wctype/wctype.h
/usr/src/elks/libc/include/ctype.h
/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.0.25/include/linux/ctype.h
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.25/include/linux/ctype.h
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/ctype.h


When I leave it like this I get an error
In file included from conftest.c:2:
/usr/include/ctype.h:1: No include path in which to find ctype.h   


When I change the first line of /usr/include/ctype.h to `#include
' I get:
/tmp/cca256631.o: In function `read_c_string':
/usr/local/src/apps/editors/emacs/xemacs-20.2-b2/lib-src/make-docfile.c:347: 
undefined reference to `_ctype'   

(so it looks like _ctype isn't declared in libc)

OK... What I'm wondering is.  What do other people have on their
systems, and what does it look like?  Is there a
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/*/*/include/ctype.h?

Thanks for any help
jim

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/usr/include/ctype.h is:
#include_next 

#undef isalnum
#define isalnum(c) (isalpha(c) || isdigit(c))

/usr/include/linux/ctype.h is:
#ifndef _LINUX_CTYPE_H
#define _LINUX_CTYPE_H

#define _U  0x01/* upper */
#define _L  0x02/* lower */
#define _D  0x04/* digit */
#define _C  0x08/* cntrl */
#define _P  0x10/* punct */
#define _S  0x20/* white space (space/lf/tab) */
#define _X  0x40/* hex digit */
#define _SP 0x80/* hard space (0x20) */

extern unsigned char _ctype[];
extern char _ctmp;

#define isalnum(c) ((_ctype+1)[c]&(_U|_L|_D))
#define isalpha(c) ((_ctype+1)[c]&(_U|_L))
#define iscntrl(c) ((_ctype+1)[c]&(_C))
#define isdigit(c) ((_ctype+1)[c]&(_D))
#define isgraph(c) ((_ctype+1)[c]&(_P|_U|_L|_D))
#define islower(c) ((_ctype+1)[c]&(_L))
#define isprint(c) ((_ctype+1)[c]&(_P|_U|_L|_D|_SP))
#define ispunct(c) ((_ctype+1)[c]&(_P))
#define isspace(c) ((_ctype+1)[c]&(_S))
#define isupper(c) ((_ctype+1)[c]&(_U))
#define isxdigit(c) ((_ctype+1)[c]&(_D|_X))

#define isascii(c) (((unsigned) c)<=0x7f)
#define toascii(c) (((unsigned) c)&0x7f)

#define tolower(c) (_ctmp=c,isupper(_ctmp)?_ctmp-('A'-'a'):_ctmp)
#define toupper(c) (_ctmp=c,islower(_ctmp)?_ctmp-('a'-'A'):_ctmp)

#endif


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Re: help!

1997-04-30 Thread George Bonser

Yeah, sendmail is ok till you have to deal with editing routing for a
large uucp network :)  mailertables are a PAIN compared to pathalias.


On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, The Gardyan wrote:

> I don't know if this is an option for you but I installed sendmail instead
> of smail for my debian system and have not regretted that decision.
> 
> Personally I think sendmail is better.
> 
> my two cents.
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Re: clear screen on logout

1997-04-30 Thread Matthew Tebbens
Try 'clear;logout'
or alias it somewhere

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> Subject: clear screen on logout
> Date: Tuesday, April 29, 1997 12:50 PM
> 
> i've looked through the archives and haven't found an answer as of yet. 
> i'd like the screen cleared on logout and the login prompt to appear at
> the top.  i've worked around this by using an alias in bashrc, but i'm
> sure there is a better way.
> 
> any ideas?
> 
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Re: Copying a system (Was Re: Directory permissions.)

1997-04-30 Thread Rick Jones

The reason I opted for mc in the first place was for the ability to tag or
untag directories to avoid copying /proc and the /mnt directories.  Since
it had the option to retain UID's and GID's I thought it was a safe
option.  I backfired on me which I think is a bug and will report it as
such.

I will say that other than the directory permissions it worked well.  I
should have followed my usual procedure of dbl checking before I removed
the old file system.

The linuxconf suggestion changed some of the permissions for me.  The
system is working without any errors other than the smail error.

I think I should be able to operate without re-installing and fix the
permissions as I go.

Thanks to everyone for the helpful advice.

On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Apr 1997 Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> -snip--
> > Using the correct tools is important.  David gives you one such tool - I
> > personally type the following command in the directory I wish to copy:
> > "find . -print | cpio -p /target".  This is of course a simplification;
> > find and cpio have a lot of powerful options, and people will argue the 
> > merits of tar vs. cpio all day.  It works for me.  At any rate, mc is not
> > up to the task.
> -snip--
> 
>  I use a modification of this command that was once recommended on
> one of the comp.os.linux.* newsgroups:
>   find  -depth -print0|cpio -pdm0 
> 
>  The '-m' option preserves file modification times, which is nice.
> I don't know how important the other options are, but they work for me.
> Similarly, I don't think the -depth option for find is needed, but I
> still use it because that is what was recommended.
> 
>  If you copying an entire file system you would cd to root before
> giving 'find .'.  If the file system is mounted du /proc returns zero,
> since /proc is a pseudo file system that (I believe) references
> various segments of the kernel image, but find/cpio copies at least
> 30 MB of the kernel image into /proc on the new system, which isn't
> good.
> 
>  Another problem with issuing this command from a mounted
> filesystem is that it will recursively copy /mnt (or whatever node the
> system is being copied to), which will soon fill your disk.  If your
> old system is on one partition, this can be prevented using the -mount
> or -xdev options to find.
> 
>  To avoid copying some directories, such as /proc or /mnt, there
> is a -prune option to find (you can't use -depth with -prune), but I
> haven't been able to make it work.  Instead of using '.' for 'old
> path', you can include each directory under / manually.  This is a
> little tedious to type in, but works well.
> 
>  If you have a rescue partition the simplest system is to boot the
> rescue partition, mount the old filesystem on one mount point and the
> new file system on another mount point, and give the command:
>   find  -depth -print0|cpio -pdm0 
> If the old file system is on several partitions, some creative
> modifications are necessary.
> 
> Bob
> 
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Re: New Hard Disk

1997-04-30 Thread Kevin Traas
> > I'm trying to add space to my system and all i have is a 170meg HD what
I
> > want to do is move everything from /usr/lib to the new HD and have the
new
> > drive mount at that point. I would like to have the move done in one
> > command. is that posible or will i have to move the whole tree by hand?
> 
> Sure..  Mount the new partition under /mnt, then:
> 
> (get into single user mode)
> cd /usr/lib
> tar -cvO . | (cd /mnt ; tar -xpf - )
> (Now check the files and perms under /mnt, and make sure it's ok)
> cd /usr/lib (in case you left there...)
> rm -rf *

I'd suggest that, before removing the files, update fstab (as below) to
mount the new drive to /usr/lib and then reboot and see if everthing works.
 i.e. check files/permissions under /usr/lib. 

In this situation, the new drive (and files) are mounted right over top of
the existing directory structure.  (BTW, as a tip, this is a great way to
"hide" a directory structure on your system from prying eyes  Drop some
files into a directory and then mount something over top of it.  Poof!  The
files are "gone" until you need them and access them.)

Once you know things are working, then unmount the new fs from /usr/lib,
remove the existing structure, and then remount the fs.

Later,

Kevin Traas
Systems Analyst
Edmondson Roper CA
http://www.eroper.bc.ca


> cd ..
> mount -t ext2 /dev/newpartition /usr/lib
> (Now change your /etc/fstab accordingly)
> 
> Be careful!  Backup your data first!
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Copying a system (Was Re: Directory permissions.)

1997-04-30 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997 Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

-snip--
> Using the correct tools is important.  David gives you one such tool - I
> personally type the following command in the directory I wish to copy:
> "find . -print | cpio -p /target".  This is of course a simplification;
> find and cpio have a lot of powerful options, and people will argue the 
> merits of tar vs. cpio all day.  It works for me.  At any rate, mc is not
> up to the task.
-snip--

 I use a modification of this command that was once recommended on
one of the comp.os.linux.* newsgroups:
  find  -depth -print0|cpio -pdm0 

 The '-m' option preserves file modification times, which is nice.
I don't know how important the other options are, but they work for me.
Similarly, I don't think the -depth option for find is needed, but I
still use it because that is what was recommended.

 If you copying an entire file system you would cd to root before
giving 'find .'.  If the file system is mounted du /proc returns zero,
since /proc is a pseudo file system that (I believe) references
various segments of the kernel image, but find/cpio copies at least
30 MB of the kernel image into /proc on the new system, which isn't
good.

 Another problem with issuing this command from a mounted
filesystem is that it will recursively copy /mnt (or whatever node the
system is being copied to), which will soon fill your disk.  If your
old system is on one partition, this can be prevented using the -mount
or -xdev options to find.

 To avoid copying some directories, such as /proc or /mnt, there
is a -prune option to find (you can't use -depth with -prune), but I
haven't been able to make it work.  Instead of using '.' for 'old
path', you can include each directory under / manually.  This is a
little tedious to type in, but works well.

 If you have a rescue partition the simplest system is to boot the
rescue partition, mount the old filesystem on one mount point and the
new file system on another mount point, and give the command:
  find  -depth -print0|cpio -pdm0 
If the old file system is on several partitions, some creative
modifications are necessary.

Bob


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