Re: Winmodem

[Bruce Perens]

By the way, if the manufacturer had not gone out of their way to make it
impossible for us to support, we would support the winmodem.

They don't use the standard interface.
They won't disclose the details of the interface.
They won't write a device driver of their own.

Thanks

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Re: 1.3.1 upgrade: getting rid of the package base 1.1.0-13 -- dselect and downgrading dosemu

[Bruce Perens]

However, edit /var/lib/dpkg/status and remove the paragraph
about the "base" package, and that will effectively purge it.
Forcing dpkg to remove the package removes all of the files in /dev.
It's my error, sorry.

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Re: Debian 1.3 problems

[Bruce Perens]

Did you try the low-memory installation procedure? It's in the install.html
and install.txt documents in the same directory as the boot floppies.

Thanks

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1.3.1 font problem in X

[digger vermont]

Hello,
I upgraded from 1.3.0 to 1.3.1 which was mostly an X upgrade to 3.3-3.
Now, none of the upgraded and important (misc, 75dp1, and 100dpi I believe) 
font paths are recognized. I tried running mkfontdir in the individual 
direcories but it didn't help.   I tried both the stock X servers and 
AcceleratedX.  Fortunately Xaccel has a few fonts so I can get X up and 
running.  Help please!
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Re: talk to debian and sun

[Christian Kauhaus]

Hi!

On 11-Jul-97, Eloy A. Paris wrote:
> I've heard the problem has something to do with byte ordering (little vs.
> big endian) in Sun's implementation; their implementation of talk is
> buggy.

We tried a lot at our university, but the only solution was to install a
ntalk on the suns. Now it works quite well...

  Christian

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PS/2 Mice

[Jefferson Alex Shaw]

I have installed Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 on my computer with the kernel
2.0.30 upgrade.  However, i have an Acer Aspire which comes with a PS/2
compatible mouse.  I installed the PS/2 driver module during install, but
the mouse does not work.  Can anyone tell me how to get my mouse running?

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Problems with Debian 1.3 new installation and ThinkPad 365XD.

[Timothy J. Miller]

I'm attempting a new install on the ThinkPad 365XD w/800x600
display, 40Mb RAM, CDROM and external floppy; at boot, the system reports
root.bin loaded, then linux, then it simply halts.

I've created 3 rescue disks on three different diskettes from two
different downloads, and all have exhibited the same problem.  Booting
"linux floppy=thinkpad" has no observable effect.  All were built from
this machine, a ThinkPad 760LD running Debian 1.3 (that I'm *trying* to
replace).

The ThinkPad 760LD is running an upgrade from Debian 1.2.  I
didn't have any boot problems with the initial Debian 1.1 installation on
the 760LD, *or* with the complete reinstall I did with Debian 1.2.  The
linux-2.0.30 without modifications; in the past it has also booted the
2.0.27, 28, and 29.

I've not ever had any significant base install problems on
various ThinkPads until this one (365XD).  Anyone have any ideas?

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Re: GNUS and Mail

[Emilio Lopes]

> "EAP" == Eloy A Paris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

EAP> rmail??? Isn't this rmail the one that comes in the sendmail
EAP> package and is used for UUCP mail? I guess not...

Your guess is right. Rmail is a mail reader for Emacs.

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Dselect timeout during FTP install.

[Chris Brown]

 I just set up a new machine with 1.3 and am having a bit of a 
problem.  Once the base was installed I went to do an FTP install of 
the rest of the sustem.  When I go to do anything that requites 
attaching to an ftp server the thing times out.  We have just gotten 
our new class C and don't have control of the reverse lookups yet on 
the DNS so it's giving me fits other places too.  The odd part is 
that I tried to ftp the .deb files so that I could do a few things 
manually using dpkg but I can only ger around 1400 bytes before the 
FTP dies of old age.  This happend using ftp.debian.org, 
ftp.crosslink.net and ftp.caldera.com.  I even had to FTP the install 
floppies using netscape on windows.  Any ideas would be helpfull.




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Re: talk to debian and sun

[Emilio Lopes]

> "JG" == John Garas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

JG> I can talk or ytalk to debian machines but I can't talk to any sun
JG> machines. If a sun user tries to talk to me I don't even get a
JG> notification.

Sun uses an old protocol for talk. There is a talk-like program
somewhere in sunsite that implements this old protocol. Don't know if
it was already packaged for Debian.

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Re: upgrading with Debian

[Emilio Lopes]

> "PM" == Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

PM> how well does Debian upgrade?  For example from 1.2 to 1.3, etc?
PM> I'm wondering because RedHat totally destroyed my system when
PM> doing any upgrades (3.0.3 to 4.0, 4.0 to 4.1, 4.1 to 4.2 all
PM> screwed everything up)...

Debian upgrades are rather smooth. Basically, you just have to tell
"dselect" to upgrade the installed package. In some case there are
some few packages that you have to upgrade by hand, but that's easy.

In particular, Debian respects your changes to the configuration
files. If you changed some config file in your system and you
install/upgrade some package that includes this file, the system will
ask you what to do about it. You can choose to replace it or not.
Whatever you choice is, the two versions of the file stay there and
you can compare them and make a merge, if you want.

It doesn't mess up the /usr/local dir.

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Re: dpkg on non-debian systems?

[Emilio Lopes]

Well, I never tried it. But it should work. There are some
instructions out there to make a smooth "upgrade" from some other
Linux distribution to Debian. The first step is, of course, install
dpkg. If it works with other distributions, it should work with
another (nice) flavor of unix.

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Re: Certification

[Buddha Buck]

> 
> There are many models that could be used to set up the certification;
> it could even be an application that could be downloaded.  As for
> studying for it -- one approach would be to select questions from a
> large database of possible questions.  The database of possible
> questions could be public, if the size of the database makes simple
> memorization impractical.  I believe this is the approach here in the
> US for written pilots' tests.

I know that US Amateur Radio License written exams are done precisely 
that way, a large public pool of questions (with answers, to ensure 
fairness in the grading) out of which the individual tests are 
generated.  And there are Amateur Radio licensing books available that 
do little more than go over the question pool explaining the correct 
answers -- no theory, just review of the questions and answers.

If it was worth a job, I could easily write an application that would 
generate, administer, and correct such a "certification" test.  Then, 
by drilling at it, I could easily pass any such test in month.  Two 
months if the test is in Italian (a language I don't speak).  I might 
have no comprehension of the material, but I could get certified.  And 
given the presence of the Amateur Radio licensing books I described, I 
don't think I'm alone.

If any certification happens, I think there needs to be a "practical" 
part of the certification process -- have them install Linux on two 
"identical" systems (with one SCSI terminator missing, just for fun), 
networked via Ethernet, one acting as a router to the Internet at 
large, etc.  Nothing too complicated, but touching on all the areas a 
"certified professional" should know how to deal with.  I also think it 
should be coordinated by someone with a known name, like Linux 
International or SSC.  (LI would be a good choice, because any 
certification fees would go towards Linux development).
> 
> Of course, however the thing would be done -- it would be sure to
> infuriate someone.  What is important to include, what is a valid
> question, why didn't I pass when I'm a linux god -- I'm not sure that
> a sane person would get into building it.  In an earlier incarnation,
> I was testing coordinator for the public school system in the Northern
> Mariana islands, and I assure you that such issues can take a lot of
> thought and time.

I can agree with this, whole heartedly.
> 
> Maybe somebody should hack together something and release it as a toy
> to see if enough people are really interested.  I whipped up a little
> kludge of tutorial/test program in C last semester; after doing that,
> I think that perl or tcl/tk would be a better approach, since it's
> mostly text manipulation.  

I threw together a quick drill program for myself (so I could pass a 
final exam) in perl about a year ago.  It isn't hard, and Perl is a 
good choice for it.

> 
> For the forseeable future, having certification in solaris or whatever
> will be a bigger job getter, but I wish we had a certification to
> advertise our love of free software.
> 
> steve

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Re: Off-topic: Making ALT be the META key

[sjg]

> Did anyone come up with a solution to this one?  
> 
> Is this controlled by emacs of X keymapping (or both)?
> 
> I had the same problem (with emacs) until it spontaneously corrected 
> itself.  
> 
> David

  Yes, I did receive a reply about this. It turned out to be an problem
with my X keymapping (although there may have been some way to get around
it with XEmacs, but..)
  If I did an 'xmodmap', I would have a mod1 line with the two ALT keys
and a mod4 line with the two META keys. By doing a 
xmodmap -e 'remove mod4 = Meta_R' -e 'remove mod4 =Meta_L' the problem
will be resolved (ie., you removed that mapping of the Meta keys, so it
will now default to the Alt keys). 
  I have no idea which 2 keys the mod4 line was mapping the Meta keys
to...

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DNS not showing authority

[Syd Alsobrook]

I just recently setup a new domain and DNS servers for it, everything seems
to be working fine with one exception. The secondary sever (WinNT) will not
pull the zone data from the primary (debian 1.3) and the primary is giving
non-authoritive responses to all queries with nslookup. Is there any way to
fix this?

thanks!

Syd

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[no subject]

[Luis Abreu]

Hi!
 I'm using Debain 1.2, and i'm having some problems connecting to my ISP.
I've a USR Winmodem, wich is PnP, and a PnP BIOS wich configures all
devices ok.
when i boot linux, 0setserial, configures all my my serial ports ok, but
diald doesn't start on boot and when i try it manually all i can get it's a
lot of junk in my terminal.

OH! And now my first serial port, wich is manually configured to irq 3,
starts on irq 5 por 0x110 overriding my  modem port!!!

Can anyone help me with this thing...

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Re: GNUS and Mail

[Eloy A. Paris]

Mark Lever ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: I use gnus and rmail.  I've been using rmail for so long now, and it
: is limited.  Someone mentioned here that they use gnus for their mail
: and different folders contained different types of mail.  Could they
: elaborate and explain to me how to get gnus to look at my mailbox and
: separate the mail into different folders?

rmail??? Isn't this rmail the one that comes in the sendmail package
and is used for UUCP mail? I guess not...

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Re: upgrading with Debian

[Bob Nielsen]

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Randy Edwards wrote:

>I will caution you, however, to make sure you read the various warnings
> and Read.Me's before such an upgrade.  For example, the 1.2-1.3 upgrade
> specifically said you had to upgrade 3 or 4 packages by downloading them and
> using dpkg to install them before you could do the "big" upgrade.  Folks who
> didn't heed that warning had trouble.

I upgraded one of my two debian computers from /frozen before the notice
on those packages came out and had no problems whatsoever (YMMV).

Bob


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Re: talk to debian and sun

[Eloy A. Paris]

Christopher Jason Morrone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: I think that Sun and such are using the old talk port.  (I have no idea if
: the protocols differ...)  If you check your /etc/services file, you'll
: probably see:
: 
: talk517/udp
: ntalk   518/udp
: 
: And in the /etc/inetd.conf:
: 
: talk dgram   udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd/usr/sbin/in.talkd
: ntalkdgram   udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd/usr/sbin/in.ntalkd

Right, but under Debian in.talkd is a symlink to in.ntalkd:

sxrwxrwx 1 root  root  9 Mar 3 20:29 /usr/sbin/in.talkd -> in.ntalkd*

I've heard the problem has something to do with byte ordering (little vs.
big endian) in Sun's implementation; their implementation of talk is
buggy.

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Re: dosemu lredir don't redir :-(

[Brent Hendricks]

Ben Gertzfield wrote:
> 
> 
> Jouni> I have dosemu 0.66.3-1. If I try to use lredir, like C:\>
> Jouni> lredir D: LINUX\FS\TMP" I get "Error 3c redirecting drive
> Jouni> D: to LINUX\FS\TMP

> I had this happen to me until I submitted to Bill's will and installed
> msdos on my hard drive image. Then I could lredir.
> 
> Seems freedos can't use lredir. :(
> 

But OpenDOS from Caldera uses lredir just fine.  I haven't had any
problems using OpenDOS with DOSEMU.  No more MS operating systems on my
computer!  Now if only we could redistribute OpenDOS with DOSEMU.

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Re: Winmodem

[Michael B. Taylor]

Winmodems are not supported under Linux (ref: Debian Installation Manual,
among other places).  Sorry :(

If you choose to replace it with a non-Windows PnP modem, you may find the
isapnptools package usefull in getting it installed.  If it is not in your
Debian 1.2 CD, you can download it from a Debian mirror to a floppy and
install from the floppy.

Mike


On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Luis Abreu wrote:

> 
> Hi!
>  I'm using Debain 1.2, and i'm having some problems connecting to my ISP.
> I've a USR Winmodem, wich is PnP, and a PnP BIOS wich configures all
> devices ok.
> when i boot linux, 0setserial, configures all my my serial ports ok, but
> diald doesn't start on boot and when i try it manually all i can get it's a
> lot of junk in my terminal.
> 
> OH! And now my first serial port, wich is manually configured to irq 3,
> starts on irq 5 por 0x110 overriding my  modem port!!!
> 
> Can anyone help me with this thing...
> 
>   Luis Abreu
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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Re: Adaptec 2940 SCSI

[James D. Freels]

Robert,

I have a similar system installed.  I have had absolutely no problems
with my Adaptec 2940 PCI-bus adapter.  In fact, just today, I remade
my entire system.  My only suggestion is to place the boot/root drive
as scsi-id-0 for minimum problems.  Below is my present configuration:

Filesystem 1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/sda1 505440   20453   458883  4%   /
/dev/sda2 388570   11152   357337  3%   /var
/dev/sdb12035606  567059  1363323 29%   /usr
/dev/sdc12035606  756238  1174144 39%   /home
/dev/sdd1  39643   29332 8264 78%   /mnt/b44
/dev/scd0 373914  3739140100%   /mnt/cdrom

Here is my dmesg output to confirm the Adaptec-2940:

tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
lp1 at 0x0378, (polling)
Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 0K size
loop: registered device at major 7
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M, fd1 is 1.2M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
Started kswapd v 1.4.2.2 
aic7xxx: BurstLen = 0 DWDs, Latency Timer = 32 PCLKS
aic7xxx: AHA-2940 Rev B.
aic7xxx: devconfig = 0x580.
aic7xxx: Reading SEEPROM...done.
aic7xxx: Extended translation enabled.
aic7xxx: Memory check yields 16 SCBs, paging not enabled.
AHA-2940 (PCI-bus), I/O 0x6100, Mem 0xf080:
irq 10
bus release time 40 bclks
data fifo threshold 100%
SCSI CHANNEL A:
scsi id 7
scsi selection timeout 256 ms
scsi bus reset at power-on enabled
scsi bus parity enabled
scsi bus termination (low byte) disabled
aic7xxx: Downloading sequencer code...done.
aic7xxx: Resetting the SCSI bus...done.
scsi0 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI) 4.0/3.2/4.0
scsi : 1 host.
scsi0: Scanning channel A for devices.
scsi0: Target 0, channel A, now synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset 15.
  Vendor: SEAGATE   Model: ST51080N  Rev: 0913
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
scsi0: Target 1, channel A, now synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset 15.
  Vendor: SEAGATE   Model: ST32171N  Rev: 0338
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
scsi0: Target 2, channel A, now synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset 15.
  Vendor: SEAGATE   Model: ST32171N  Rev: 0338
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi disk sdc at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0
scsi0: Target 4, channel A, refusing synchronous negotiation; using 
asynchronous transfers.
  Vendor: IOMEGAModel: BETA44Rev:  3.0
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 01 CCS
Detected scsi removable disk sdd at scsi0, channel 0, id 4, lun 0
scsi0: Target 5, channel A, refusing synchronous negotiation; using 
asynchronous transfers.
  Vendor: NEC   Model: CD-ROM DRIVE:501  Rev: 2.2 
  Type:   CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0
scsi : detected 1 SCSI cdrom 4 SCSI disks total.
SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2109840 [1030 MB] [1.0 GB]
SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 4222640 [2061 MB] [2.1 GB]
SCSI device sdc: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 4222640 [2061 MB] [2.1 GB]
SCSI device sdd: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 87040 [42 MB] [0.0 GB]
sdd: Write Protect is off
  Overriding PCI latency timer (CFLT) setting of 32, new value is 255.
eth0: 3Com 3c595 Vortex 100baseTX at 0x6000, 00:a0:24:c5:fe:bf, IRQ 11
  Internal config register is 141001b, transceivers 0xe10a.
  64K word-wide RAM 3:1 Rx:Tx split, autoselect/100baseTX interface.
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Adding Swap: 128516k swap-space
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eth0: vortex_open() irq 11 media status 8082.
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eth0: Media 100baseTX is has no link beat, 8082.
eth0: Media selection failed, now trying 10baseT port.
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Re: Diald & modem forget irq #

[Michael B. Taylor]

I believe the isapnptools package is intended to deal with situations like
this.  See the manpage for pnpdump after installing.  

Mike Taylor

On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Will Lowe wrote:

> I have a Hayes Accura 33.6 faxmodem;  it's pnp,  I have a pnp bios,
> everything is configured successfully by the bios.
> 
>   The modem,  which for some reason is placed by the bios on
> /dev/cua3 (com 4),  is auto-pnp-configured to use irq 10.  Since the Linux
> default for this device file seems to be irq 3,  I use setserial in
> /etc/rc.boot to change the irq line for it to 10.
>   I have diald installed to auto-connect this modem ... generally it
> works fine.  But sometimes I get messages saying "failed to determine
> terminal attributes" in /var/log/messages ... it _always_ turns out that
> somehow the irq for /dev/cua3 has reverted to 3.  I am able (as root) to
> setserial it back to 10,  but it's aggravating,  because the point of
> installing diald was to  have to do that all the time ...
> 
>   Is there a way for me to hardwire this irq number to this port
> somehow?  Is there a better way to handle it?
> 
>   Thanks.
>   Will
> 
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Re: talk to debian and sun

[Christopher Jason Morrone]

I think that Sun and such are using the old talk port.  (I have no idea if
the protocols differ...)  If you check your /etc/services file, you'll
probably see:

talk517/udp
ntalk   518/udp

And in the /etc/inetd.conf:

talk dgram   udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd/usr/sbin/in.talkd
ntalkdgram   udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd/usr/sbin/in.ntalkd

You might be missing the one on port 517, which might you don't see talk
requests from those machines.

Now, doesn't anyone find it silly that the old port isn't supported by
default?  I've found that MOST of the Universities that I want to talk
with are all using the old talk port!  UIUC, UPenn, CMU, Cornell, U of
Delaware...and I'm sure many, many more.

One quick and easy way around the problem is to install to-talk...made
specifically to talk to the old systems.  Unfortunately, it doesn't have
all of the nifty features of ytalk.  And I find it particularly annoying
to have to use a different talk command depending on the source of the
talk request.

Maybe this subject should be taken to the Linux newsgroups...

On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Eric Delaunay wrote:

> John Garas wrote:
> > I can talk or ytalk to debian machines but I can't talk to any sun
> > machines. If a sun user tries to talk to me I don't even get a
> > notification.
> > 
> > Does anybody knows a remedy for that.
> 
> You have to install ntalk & ntalkd on the Sun side.  AFAIK, Sun's talk uses an
> obsolete protocol.
> 
> Bye.
> 
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Re: Help transfering data (Correction)....

[Nathan E Norman]

Hmm, seems I too replied too fast :)  No worries :)

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On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Dr. Andreas Wehler wrote:

:Sorry, please forget my too fast launched reply about 
:find still finding proc.
:
:: : find / -xdev -print | cpio -padm /mnt
:: 
:: Oh, that's not the help.
:: 
:: 
::  find / -xdev | grep proc 
:: 
::  gives you:
:: 
:: ...
:: /var/lib/dpkg/info/procmeter.postinst
:: /var/lib/dpkg/info/procmeter.list
:: /var/lib/dpkg/info/procmeter.postrm
:: /var/lib/dpkg/info/xproc.list
:: /proc
:
: It does finds proc, but doesn't descend it.  
:I remembered an old fault of mine when trying
:   cd /
:   tar -clf /dev/null *
:when proc was found AND descended by tar ...
:
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FTP availability of last set of X 3.2 packages.

[Rob Browning]

Do any of the ftp sites still have the last round of X 3.2 based
packages?  I looked around on ftp.debian.org, but couldn't find them.

The new 3.3 ones are completely unusable on one machine here as the
relevant servers (VGA16 and S3) both *immediately* shut down the
monitor on launch.  I'd be happy for a fix, but in the meantime, I'd
like to back off to 3.2.

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Netconfig isnt available

[K.Y.Lo]

Hi

I cant find 'netconfig' on Debian Linux 1.3. I am going to set up
my ethernet TCP/IP but I need 'netconfig' to install so much easier.

do you know where is 'netconfig'?

cheers

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Re: libc6 at which rev?

[joost witteveen]

> 
> where exactly does libc6 start as the standard for gcc?  
What gcc version? None, but gcc 2.7.2.2 and higher support libc6,
below they don't?

> Is it at 1.3,

Oh, you mean what Debian release uses libc6 as standard? That's
Debian 2.0, also called hamm, currently "unstable". 1.3 is still
fully libc5

> or unstable?  And is there a way to force my system back down to stable,

Do you mean stable or libc5? Anyway, the solution is the same,
if you have a debian mirror (or cd mounted somerwhere), do

cd my_mirror 
dpkg -R --skip-same-version --selected-only .

(or maybe without the final .).

> without going package by package to compare them?

The above command will make dpkg do all the comparing.

Warning: compleately untested!!!

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Re: X & modprobe gone wild

[Allan Black]

> I find 
> lp|Generic dot-matrix printer entry:\
> :lp=/dev/lp1:\
> :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
[...]
> I suppose I should comment this out?

Yes. /dev/lp1 is the char-major-6 device which has being giving you all
this trouble. Comment it out, restart lpd or reboot or whatever, reclaim
wasted disk space by deleting the print job(s) in /var/spool/lpd/lp :-)

> there is a network printer that i think i could use, once i figure out
> how.  For now, though, all printing is by ftping to our public machines
> which are connected.

Err  (off the top of my head)

|Verbose Description:\
:lp=:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/:\
:rm=:\
:rp=:

where  is the name you want to use for the printer queue,
and  is the host name of the machine to which the printer
is physically attached, and  is the name of the queue on
the remote system. Usually,  and  will be the
same, but they don't need to be.

Other things like filters, page parameters etc. are set on the remote
system, I think. Not sure about sh (suppress header page) - you'll need
to experiment :-)

You'll need to create /var/spool/lpd/ - give it the same
owner, group and permissions as /var/spool/lpd/lp.

You may need to configure  to authorise acceptance of
print jobs from your own system. I'm not sure how to do this with the
"Linux" lpd system (I don't have much network experience of Linux), but
I seem to remember from my pre-Solaris (i.e. SunOS 4.x) days that you
use /etc/hosts.lpd - it's more or less the same lpd system.

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Re: clock/time

[Bob Nielsen]

On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Timothy Phan wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>   I'm having problem with the clock/time on my debian box.  Everytime,
>   I bring up the system, the clock is always about 4 hours behind.
>   I have to setup the time using "date -s hh:mm".  I'd like to know
>   how to:
> 1. setup the Debian to always read the time/date from the CMOS
>according.

See 'man clock'.

> 2. adjust the time periodicly if the system is up for a while.
>I've noticed that when the system stay up for long period of
>time, the clock slow down to like 3-4 hour in a 24 hours period.
> 

If you are connected to the Internet, you can use a program like rdate or
ntpdate to update your system time from an accurate time server, like
time.nist.gov.  Then you can update your CMOS time with 'clock -w'.  A
simple script could be invoked with cron to periodically update the clock.
I have a call to such a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up to update my clock
whenever I connect to my ISP.

Bob


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libc6 at which rev?

[Rick Hawkins]

where exactly does libc6 start as the standard for gcc?  Is it at 1.3,
or unstable?  And is there a way to force my system back down to stable,
without going package by package to compare them?

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Re: clock/time

[Andree Leidenfrost]

Hi Timothy,

to my knowledge, Debian is reading time and date from CMOS when booting.
Make sure you have the right timezone, the correct CMOS time - either
local or GMT - and that the system knows what it is - local or GMT.
Besides, under Debian you can read and write the CMOS clock with the
clock command in /sbin (not /usr/bin/X11).

Further, you might want to have a look at the adjtimex package. It
corrects CMOS clocks which are usually notorious for either speeding or
creeping.

Regards,

Andree
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Re: PPP connection dying

[Lazar Fleysher]

On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Brian K Servis wrote:

> Brian K Servis writes:
> >
> >Casey Feskens writes:
> >>
> >>Still having problems keeping ppp from dying out.  Telnet works 
> >>without any problems whatsoever.  So does ping.  FTP and Netscape
> >>seem to be the biggest problems.  FTP works fine until I begin
> >>downloading files.  It works for awhile, then my whole ppp connection
> >>begins to hang.  Same with netscape.  I can connect to a site or
> >>two, but soon enough it just hangs the whole connection.  
> >>
> >>I have to kill all the processes to get out and then reboot the 
> >>machine or redial 30 or so times to get a connection started again.
> >>
> >>Can anyone give me any ideas?  I need help desparately.
> >>
> >>Casey
> >>
> >
> >Not that this is any help but all of a sudden I started getting the
> >same behavior with Debian 1.3.1 and Netscape 3.01 Gold.  However I can
> >repeat the failure by submiting a form in Netscape. This will freeze
> >my PPP connection until lcp-echo-failure kicks in and ppp dies.  Like
> >you the logs don't show anything usefull.  I used to not have any
> >problems with forms.  The only thing that I have changed is gone from
> >1.3.0 to 1.3.1 the one thing that changed besides all XFree86 v3.3
> >related files is libc5 from v23 to v33.  I think you said you were
> >using Debian 1.2 so there shouldn't be any relations here. Oh well,
> >more info for the masses I guess.
> >
> >Anybody else have any hints, this IS really anonying.
> >
> 
> As a small update to this. Submiting forms with lynx works fine, it is 
> netscape that seems to be causing me the problems.  Maybe I will try
> a different grapical browser,=(, to see if that changes anything.
> 
> Brian 

Most probably it is Netscape's fault...
3.01 Gold for windows does the same thing. Try not to use Gold, just
install regular :)

Lazar



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clock/time

[Timothy Phan]

Hi,

  I'm having problem with the clock/time on my debian box.  Everytime,
  I bring up the system, the clock is always about 4 hours behind.
  I have to setup the time using "date -s hh:mm".  I'd like to know
  how to:
1. setup the Debian to always read the time/date from the CMOS
   according.
2. adjust the time periodicly if the system is up for a while.
   I've noticed that when the system stay up for long period of
   time, the clock slow down to like 3-4 hour in a 24 hours period.

  My system is setup to use CDT timezone.  Many thanks in advance.
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Re: Diald & modem forget irq #

[Andree Leidenfrost]

Hi Will,

did you perhaps compile the serial driver as a module? If so the
behaviour is quite clear. When the serial module is unloaded the
hardware configuration, i.e. IRQ and IO is lost. Upon reloading the
module the default values are used. Consequently, the solution could be
to compile the serial driver into the kernel rather than as a module.

Regards,

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Re: Help transfering data....

[Nathan E Norman]

No kidding.  He doesn't want to copy the files in the proc directory,
but he has to copy the prov directory itself ... it's a mount point, no?

I believe the original request was to copy the root fs only.  This
command does that.

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On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Dr. Andreas Wehler wrote:

:: find / -xdev -print | cpio -padm /mnt
:
:Oh, that's not the help.
:
:
: find / -xdev | grep proc 
:
: gives you:
:
:...
:/var/lib/dpkg/info/procmeter.postinst
:/var/lib/dpkg/info/procmeter.list
:/var/lib/dpkg/info/procmeter.postrm
:/var/lib/dpkg/info/xproc.list
:/proc
:
:
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Re: dosemu lredir don't redir :-(

[Ben Gertzfield]

> "Jouni" == Jouni [EMAIL PROTECTED] fi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jouni> I have dosemu 0.66.3-1. If I try to use lredir, like C:\>
Jouni> lredir D: LINUX\FS\TMP" I get "Error 3c redirecting drive
Jouni> D: to LINUX\FS\TMP

Jouni> The error number is 3e, if I try to mount my mounted
Jouni> dos-partion under dosemu.

Jouni> Dosemu also says in the be start, that D: is directory /,
Jouni> but dir D: gives rubbish.

Jouni> I have searched the net, and there seem to be no pointers
Jouni> to this.  I don't won't to boot from my dos-directory, just
Jouni> access some files, so the hdimage as c: is fine with me.

I had this happen to me until I submitted to Bill's will and installed
msdos on my hard drive image. Then I could lredir.

Seems freedos can't use lredir. :(

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Re: PPP connection dying

[Brian K Servis]

Brian K Servis writes:
>
>Casey Feskens writes:
>>
>>Still having problems keeping ppp from dying out.  Telnet works 
>>without any problems whatsoever.  So does ping.  FTP and Netscape
>>seem to be the biggest problems.  FTP works fine until I begin
>>downloading files.  It works for awhile, then my whole ppp connection
>>begins to hang.  Same with netscape.  I can connect to a site or
>>two, but soon enough it just hangs the whole connection.  
>>
>>I have to kill all the processes to get out and then reboot the 
>>machine or redial 30 or so times to get a connection started again.
>>
>>Can anyone give me any ideas?  I need help desparately.
>>
>>Casey
>>
>
>Not that this is any help but all of a sudden I started getting the
>same behavior with Debian 1.3.1 and Netscape 3.01 Gold.  However I can
>repeat the failure by submiting a form in Netscape. This will freeze
>my PPP connection until lcp-echo-failure kicks in and ppp dies.  Like
>you the logs don't show anything usefull.  I used to not have any
>problems with forms.  The only thing that I have changed is gone from
>1.3.0 to 1.3.1 the one thing that changed besides all XFree86 v3.3
>related files is libc5 from v23 to v33.  I think you said you were
>using Debian 1.2 so there shouldn't be any relations here. Oh well,
>more info for the masses I guess.
>
>Anybody else have any hints, this IS really anonying.
>

As a small update to this. Submiting forms with lynx works fine, it is 
netscape that seems to be causing me the problems.  Maybe I will try
a different grapical browser,=(, to see if that changes anything.

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Re: Help transfering data (Correction)....

[Dr. Andreas Wehler]

Sorry, please forget my too fast launched reply about 
find still finding proc.

: : find / -xdev -print | cpio -padm /mnt
: 
: Oh, that's not the help.
: 
: 
:  find / -xdev | grep proc 
: 
:  gives you:
: 
: ...
: /var/lib/dpkg/info/procmeter.postinst
: /var/lib/dpkg/info/procmeter.list
: /var/lib/dpkg/info/procmeter.postrm
: /var/lib/dpkg/info/xproc.list
: /proc

 It does finds proc, but doesn't descend it.  
I remembered an old fault of mine when trying
cd /
tar -clf /dev/null *
when proc was found AND descended by tar ...

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Re: PPP connection dying

[Brian K Servis]

Casey Feskens writes:
>
>Still having problems keeping ppp from dying out.  Telnet works 
>without any problems whatsoever.  So does ping.  FTP and Netscape
>seem to be the biggest problems.  FTP works fine until I begin
>downloading files.  It works for awhile, then my whole ppp connection
>begins to hang.  Same with netscape.  I can connect to a site or
>two, but soon enough it just hangs the whole connection.  
>
>I have to kill all the processes to get out and then reboot the 
>machine or redial 30 or so times to get a connection started again.
>
>Can anyone give me any ideas?  I need help desparately.
>
>Casey
>

Not that this is any help but all of a sudden I started getting the
same behavior with Debian 1.3.1 and Netscape 3.01 Gold.  However I can
repeat the failure by submiting a form in Netscape. This will freeze
my PPP connection until lcp-echo-failure kicks in and ppp dies.  Like
you the logs don't show anything usefull.  I used to not have any
problems with forms.  The only thing that I have changed is gone from
1.3.0 to 1.3.1 the one thing that changed besides all XFree86 v3.3
related files is libc5 from v23 to v33.  I think you said you were
using Debian 1.2 so there shouldn't be any relations here. Oh well,
more info for the masses I guess.

Anybody else have any hints, this IS really anonying.

Brian Servis



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dosemu lredir don't redir :-(

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I have dosemu 0.66.3-1. If I try to use lredir, like
C:\> lredir D: LINUX\FS\TMP"
I get 
"Error 3c redirecting drive D: to LINUX\FS\TMP

The error number is 3e, if I try to mount my mounted dos-partion under dosemu.

Dosemu also says in the be start, that D: is directory /, but
dir D: gives rubbish.

I have searched the net, and there seem to be no pointers to this. 
I don't won't to boot from my dos-directory, just access some files, so the 
hdimage as c: is fine with me.

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Diald & modem forget irq #

[Will Lowe]

I have a Hayes Accura 33.6 faxmodem;  it's pnp,  I have a pnp bios,
everything is configured successfully by the bios.

The modem,  which for some reason is placed by the bios on
/dev/cua3 (com 4),  is auto-pnp-configured to use irq 10.  Since the Linux
default for this device file seems to be irq 3,  I use setserial in
/etc/rc.boot to change the irq line for it to 10.
I have diald installed to auto-connect this modem ... generally it
works fine.  But sometimes I get messages saying "failed to determine
terminal attributes" in /var/log/messages ... it _always_ turns out that
somehow the irq for /dev/cua3 has reverted to 3.  I am able (as root) to
setserial it back to 10,  but it's aggravating,  because the point of
installing diald was to  have to do that all the time ...

Is there a way for me to hardwire this irq number to this port
somehow?  Is there a better way to handle it?

Thanks.
Will

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Re: Help transfering data....

[Dr. Andreas Wehler]

: find / -xdev -print | cpio -padm /mnt

Oh, that's not the help.


 find / -xdev | grep proc 

 gives you:

...
/var/lib/dpkg/info/procmeter.postinst
/var/lib/dpkg/info/procmeter.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/procmeter.postrm
/var/lib/dpkg/info/xproc.list
/proc


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Problems with xauth & PAM

[Juan Jose Quintela]

Hello,
I don't achieve that the file .Xauthority works for me,
I have the same .Xauthority file in the two machines:

And when I try to launch a window in a remote machine I obtain the
following message:

  ~$ xterm &
  [1] 5939
  ~$ Xlib: connection to "krilin:0.0" refused by server 
  Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
  Error: Can't open display: krilin:0.0

And In the console where I am running X the following output:

  AUDIT: Fri Jul 11 15:29:53 1997: 3842 X: client 14 rejected from IP
  193.144.51.76 port 35537

I think that the problem is related with the PAM config, but I don't find
a solution. (193.144.51.76 is the address of the remote machine)

Any hint, comment, sugestion ???

Thans a lot for your time and help,
Juan.

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Re: upgrading with Debian

[Will Lowe]

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

> how well does Debian upgrade?  For example from 1.2 to 1.3, etc?  I'm
> wondering because RedHat totally destroyed my system when doing any
> upgrades (3.0.3 to 4.0, 4.0 to 4.1, 4.1 to 4.2 all screwed everything
> up)...

Heck,  it was easier than upgrading that _other_ windowing operating
system from that company run by the Bill-guy.  Just point the installation
manager at ftp.debian.org,  update the list of available packages,  select
the ones you want to upgrade,  and let it run.  I upgraded from 1.2 to 1.3
this way with no problems.  It's also that easy if you have the updates on
CD-ROM or some other access method ...

Will

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Re: Help transfering data....

[Nathan E Norman]

find / -xdev -print | cpio -padm /mnt

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On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Kevin J Poorman wrote:

:Hi.
:
:I just got a new hard drive and wish to transfer my root fs to this new
:drive as it is larger
:
:now to the hard part ...
:
:I Tryed to do a cp -a * /mnt (where the new hd was mounted)
:
:but it sat there cp'ing files for an hour and never got past the proc
:directory  did I do something wrong ...
:
:
:I know that before on this list some published a way to do this with tar
:I would like to do it that way if posible 
:
:
:thanks in advance
:
:-Kevin 
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Some troubles with Samba

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

Hi,

I having some minor problems when trying to connect to a NT
machine, with a high debug level (e.g. -d10).
I'm getting the following lines:
...
pm_process() returned Yes
lp_servicenumber: couldn't find homes
lp_servicenumber: couldn't find printers
lp_servicenumber: couldn't find printers
...
Should this lines indicate that my smb.conf is wrong or no?
testparm reports all ok with smb.conf.

Load smb config files from /etc/smb.conf
Processing section "[homes]"
Processing section "[LQ_570]"
Processing section "[tmp]"
Processing section "[cd_rom]"
Loaded services file OK.

What they means?

[]s,
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Re: talk to debian and sun

[Eric Delaunay]

John Garas wrote:
> I can talk or ytalk to debian machines but I can't talk to any sun
> machines. If a sun user tries to talk to me I don't even get a
> notification.
> 
> Does anybody knows a remedy for that.

You have to install ntalk & ntalkd on the Sun side.  AFAIK, Sun's talk uses an
obsolete protocol.

Bye.

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Re: bash won't see existing binaries

[Joachim Trinkwitz]

Ed Donovan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> So, it looks to me like wn_1.17.11-1.deb needs libc6 but doesn't list
> that among its dependencies.  You don't have libc6 installed on your
> system, do you?  That's my guess.  So, you could install wn_1.17.0-5.deb
> from stable, or start upgrading to libc6 and the packages in unstable.
> You could submit a bug report on wn, too.
> 
> Does that fit with what you see on your system?  Hope it helps,
> 
Indeed I don't have libc6 nor ld.so.2 (it's a relatively fresh installed
debian 1.3).
I'm a little anxious about installing libc6 -- is there a risk that other
packages will be broken afterwards? Which other packages are required (of
course ldso, I understood)?

Thanks for Your help   Joachim

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talk to debian and sun

[John Garas]

I can talk or ytalk to debian machines but I can't talk to any sun
machines. If a sun user tries to talk to me I don't even get a
notification.

Does anybody knows a remedy for that.

Thanks,
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Re: General colorization question

[Jonas Bofjall]

On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, David R. Kohel wrote:

> I'm looking for the equivalent of the /etc/DIR_COLORS in Slackware, 
> from where it is read, and where to specify that users' ~/.dircolors

Have you actually read the 'ls' manpage ?

man ls

(you can search for 'color')

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Re: emacs doesn't use AUC TeX

[Jonas Bofjall]

On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:

> I have installed the auctex package, but when I use emacs to edit a file
> with a .tex ending, AUC TeX is not invoked.  Why isn't it working?

You have to put it in your .emacsrc-file. I believe its all in the AUC TeX
documentation.

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Re: emacs and xemacs

[Jonas Bofjall]

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

> I just installed Debian 1.3.1 and it wouldn't let me install emacs AND
> xemacs... one or the other.  How can I get both on my system?

Most probably you don't want both of them. XEmacs has more features than
GNU Emacs (if running under X), but hogs system resources even more. In
text mode, they're equivalent. Personally, I have a Pentium with 32 MB RAM
so I use XEmacs. Makes the GNUSCAPE (w3el) browser very good.

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Re: uploads disappearing

[jdassen]

On Jul 11, Alexander Koch wrote
> Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > Therefore, SSH and some other packages are only available from a set of
> > non-US sites, the "master" of which is
> > ftp://ftp.os.inf.tu-dresden.de/pub/debian-non-US/
> 
> Hmh. this is ftp://ftp.os.inf.tu-dresden.de/pub/debian-non-US/binary-i386/ssh*
> -rw-r--r--   1 1027 201391978 Jul  9 06:08 ssh_1.2.20-2.deb
> 
> Where has the latest version gone? (-3) And where has it been uploaded?
> Definitely not there..

Uploads go to the same site, but to a different dir
(/pub/incoming/debian-non-US).

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Re: uploads disappearing

[Andree Leidenfrost]

Just a small correction: Omit 'ftp' at the beginning:

ftp://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/pub/debian-non-US/

Regards,

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Re: uploads disappearing

[jdassen]

On Jul 11, Alexander Koch wrote
> Well, on debian-changes (one of them) there was an upload of ssh 1.2.20-3,
> can you guys please tell me where to find it?
> 
> It is not in incoming on master... And I need it...

SSH uses crypto; if it were available from master, you (as a non-US citizen)
could run into legal difficulties if you were to download it from master.
Therefore, SSH and some other packages are only available from a set of
non-US sites, the "master" of which is
ftp://ftp.os.inf.tu-dresden.de/pub/debian-non-US/

HTH,
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Re: PPP connection dying out

[Nils Rennebarth]

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On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Casey Feskens wrote:

>>   >My PPP connection seems to be working well except that certain
>>   >things keep hanging it.  My dial-in works fine.  I can run ping or
>>   >telnet sessions for any amount of time without a problem.  Problems
>>   >occur with FTP and Netscape.
>>   >
>> Is your sample sufficient for you to be able to say that this is not just
>> chance?  Do failures happen after any particular length of time? or are 
>> they at unpredictable times?
>
>This happens consistently.  I haven't been able to hold a connection
>ever when using FTP or netscape.  The amount of time it takes to 
>drop is inconsistent.  Today I managed to get two files through FTP
>before the connection dropped, but yesterday I couldn't get a 150k
>file through before the connection dropped.
In this case it looks like a case of flow-control not working.

Check if:
- -  crtscts is set in /etc/ppp/options or in the commandline arguments to 
   pppd
- -  the modem settings enable hardware flow control
- -  the cable connects enough lines to include the hardware flow control
   lines


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Networking and talk

[David R. Kohel]

Does anyone know how to configure networking so that local "talk" 
works without breaking the overall configuration?

My previous Slackware /etc/hosts always came with a warning:

# By the way, Arnt Gulbrandsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says that 127.0.0.1
# should NEVER be named with the name of the machine.  It causes problems
# for some (stupid) programs, irc and reputedly talk. :^)

This warning is lacking from Debian, but it doesn't commit the error.

In my experience, however, I've always had to name the loopback 
127.0.0.1 with the name of the machine to get talk to work!!!  
I might add that I only use talk on the local machine between 
user accounts.  

In the past this was never a problem, since I only worked over 
modems, now I've got an ethernet card on a desktop, and use both 
PLIP and PPP over a modem on my laptop.  I find it absurd to 
constantly be adjusting the /etc/hosts to get one or the other.  
Ideas?

Given my distance from the continent I called home, "talk" is the 
best means of personal communication I know.  

David


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General colorization question

[David R. Kohel]

There have been several questions about colorization, but once we get 
it working, how do we customize it?  

I'm looking for the equivalent of the /etc/DIR_COLORS in Slackware, 
from where it is read, and where to specify that users' ~/.dircolors
be sourced.

David


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Re: Off-topic: Making ALT be the META key

[David R. Kohel]

Did anyone come up with a solution to this one?  

Is this controlled by emacs of X keymapping (or both)?

I had the same problem (with emacs) until it spontaneously corrected 
itself.  

David

>   I recently installed XEmacs, and would like to have it recognize my ALT
> key as the META key (which I thought was supposed to be the default, but
> isn't on my machine). I played around with xmodmap some, but didn't
> accomplish anything useful. This is an i386 platform, so the HP fixes for
> it won't help :) Thanks.


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Re: compiling the kernel

[Philippe Troin]

On Fri, 11 Jul 1997 01:03:24 EDT Paul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> I know how to compile the kernel the regular way, but doesn't Debian
> have a special script for this?  I install it and I don't know the name
> of it... what is it?

There is a kernel-package package to compile the kernel into a package.

Phil.



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Re: missing /dev entries in 1.3.1 !!!

[Philippe Troin]

On Fri, 11 Jul 1997 01:01:57 EDT Paul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> where are the /dev/cua? entries??  how can I install them?

You should use /dev/ttyS? devices instead because:
  1) /dev/cua are obsolete
  2) /dev/cua have a weird locking mechanism
  3) All software in debian (and 99% of other software) is made to work
 with /dev/ttyS?.

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compiling the kernel

[Paul Miller]

I know how to compile the kernel the regular way, but doesn't Debian
have a special script for this?  I install it and I don't know the name
of it... what is it?

-Paul


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missing /dev entries in 1.3.1 !!!

[Paul Miller]

where are the /dev/cua? entries??  how can I install them?

-Paul


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Re: emacs doesn't use AUC TeX

[Syrus Nemat-Nasser]

On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:

> I have installed the auctex package, but when I use emacs to edit a file
> with a .tex ending, AUC TeX is not invoked.  Why isn't it working?

Try adding this to your .emacs file:

;; set up auctex
(require 'tex-site) 

Syrus.

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routed in netstd and gated compilation problems.

[Karl Ferguson]

Hi.

I've been trialing the routed included in netstd and it seems _very_ broken
to the point of not establishing routes in the table when one needs to be
added.  I believe that from reports about 'routed' on the Internet that
people don't use it because of this and 'gated' is a very powerful and
versitile replacement.  Perhaps either gated can be provided as part of
netstd - though a seperate package would be a better way to go.

Now, even more interesting problem - I'm having trouble compiling gated
would you believe :-)  Please keep in mind that I'm no programmer, but
these are the errors I get, and again, wouldn't you know it - right near
the end of the compilaton:

parse.o: In function `parse_where':
parse.o(.text+0x56b): undefined reference to `yylineno'
parse.o(.text+0x591): undefined reference to `yylineno'
lexer.o: In function `yylex':
lexer.o(.text+0x327): undefined reference to `yylineno'
lexer.o(.text+0x5a8): undefined reference to `yylineno'
lexer.o(.text+0x6b8): undefined reference to `yylineno'
lexer.o(.text+0x86d): more undefined references to `yylineno' follow
make[1]: *** [gated] Error 1

If someone can help me on this gated compilation issue it'd proboly be best
to keep it off the list.

Thanks

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Re: PPP hanging - USR sportster modem

[Lawrence]

Casey Feskens wrote:
> 
> I do in fact have a USR sportster 56k.  I'm sifting through the
> digest on www.debian.org.  Anyone have direct experience with
> that problem?  Please give me an email.
> 

I have no problem using my USR sportster 56K Flash external.

Lawrence


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Re: Hamm directory tree structure

[Carlo U. Segre]

On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Eloy A. Paris wrote:

> I was messing around with Hamm in ftp.debian.org and realized that the
> directory structure is different than in previous Debian releases. I see
> that under the unstable (hamm) directory there is another hamm directory
> and is under this directory where binary-i386 (an other binary directories)
> is located.
> 
> Any reason for this new approach or it just that ftp.debian.org is
> messed up?

I am not 100% certain, but I suspect that this is a new structure which
will permit the "contrib" and "non-free" to be in sync with a particular
distribution.  In the past, these two trees were always at the "unstable"
level, leading to some conflicts with the "stable" tree.  If you look at
the top "hamm" directory, you will note that it has a "non-free" and a
"contrib" of its own.

Cheers,

Carlo

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Re: upgrading with Debian

[Randy Edwards]

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

> how well does Debian upgrade?  For example from 1.2 to 1.3, etc?

   Well, I only have experience going from 1.2 to 1.3.  But as a basic Linux
newbie I didn't have any troubles at all.  I was pleasantly shocked at how
smooth it went.  I did my upgrade over ftp on a 28.8k line; I set things up
about 10 pm and when I got up in the morning things were upgraded.  Neat!

   I will caution you, however, to make sure you read the various warnings
and Read.Me's before such an upgrade.  For example, the 1.2-1.3 upgrade
specifically said you had to upgrade 3 or 4 packages by downloading them and
using dpkg to install them before you could do the "big" upgrade.  Folks who
didn't heed that warning had trouble.

   But as I said, for me, the upgrade was as smooth as a silk stocking 
gliding across a freshly shaven thigh.  :-)

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Re: upgrading with Debian

[Bob Nielsen]

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

> how well does Debian upgrade?  For example from 1.2 to 1.3, etc?  I'm
> wondering because RedHat totally destroyed my system when doing any
> upgrades (3.0.3 to 4.0, 4.0 to 4.1, 4.1 to 4.2 all screwed everything
> up)...

Hmmm, that's exactly why I switched to Debian.  1.2 to 1.3 to 1.3.1 was a
piece of cake.  (Actually Red Hat 2.1 to 3.0.3 went rather well.)

Bob


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Re: Adaptec 2940 SCSI

[Philippe Troin]

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:04:21 PDT Robert DeLine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> I am trying to install Debian 1.3 on a Gateway 2000 with 2 2 Gig SCSI Hard
> drives, a Toshiba SCSI CD hooked up to an Adaptec 2940 SCSI adaptor.

FYI, I use an Adaptec 2940UW with 3 devices connected to it (Wide 
disk, cd-rom and tape) without any problem.

> I occasionally get the setup menus to come up, but then drive 2 (which is
> the drive I want to install on) is not visibale.
> 
> Most of the time, I get alot of timeout type errors in the initial boot
> screens indicating problems with the SCSI bus.  I have tried to enable and
> disable the disconnects on the SCSI adaptor, and use the boot option
> asc7xxx=no_reset with absolutly no success.

Are you sure about SCSI termination and SCSI cables ? 2940 is known 
to be overly sensitive to bad cables and/or bad terminations.

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Re: upgrading with Debian

[Eloy A. Paris]

Paul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: how well does Debian upgrade?  For example from 1.2 to 1.3, etc?  I'm
: wondering because RedHat totally destroyed my system when doing any
: upgrades (3.0.3 to 4.0, 4.0 to 4.1, 4.1 to 4.2 all screwed everything
: up)...

Debian is really *good* stuff. Support is excellent through this mailing
list, upgrade is breeze, available software is top quality.

We run Debian in about three production servers in our company and
wouldn't change them for anything else.

Switch to Debian...

E.-

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Re: 100 Mbit Ethernet

[Richard L Shepherd]

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, dpk wrote:

> I don't have much experience with having two ethernet cards in a machine,

I've a little now that I've had to play with a few machines (one has 4
ethernet cards and 1 radio card!)

> My ifconfig also says 10mb because the tulip driver first probes 10mb.
> However, after boot up, once I start sending packets it says "Enabling
> 100TX port" despite the fact it says 10mb on ifconfig.  Also, my download
> capabilities have shown it.  ( On our internal network I can download up
> to 1.3 MB/sec =), my scsi hard drive griding as fast as possible the whole

Well I've got this problem solved now.  It seems that the switch port I
was testing on was stuffed.  Moving to another one I get wonderful
performance. On a 100Mb/s port I can get it working at both half and full
duplex, with ftp transfers of 3.8 MB/s (which translates to about 30Mb/s,
the other machine for the ftp is only on half duplex) on a 100 MB file
which is excellent!  The other card is still happy at 10Mb/s. And it's all
autodetect too, no options needed. 

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upgrading with Debian

[Paul Miller]

how well does Debian upgrade?  For example from 1.2 to 1.3, etc?  I'm
wondering because RedHat totally destroyed my system when doing any
upgrades (3.0.3 to 4.0, 4.0 to 4.1, 4.1 to 4.2 all screwed everything
up)...

-Paul


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Hamm directory tree structure

[Eloy A. Paris]

Hi,

I was messing around with Hamm in ftp.debian.org and realized that the
directory structure is different than in previous Debian releases. I see
that under the unstable (hamm) directory there is another hamm directory
and is under this directory where binary-i386 (an other binary directories)
is located.

Any reason for this new approach or it just that ftp.debian.org is
messed up?

Thanks,

E.-

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Re: Problem with Samba, PAM and NT

[Alexander Stavitsky]

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, dpk wrote:

> I get these same errors, and I am just using the linux box for
> authentication, however it will let me connect.  I am interested likewise
> why this happens, because this didn't happen until I upgraded to Debian
> 1.3.
> > Jul 10 17:50:02 aeidns pam[124]: (other) illegal module type: OTHER
> > Jul 10 17:50:02 aeidns pam[124]: (other) illegal control flag: auth
> > Jul 10 17:50:02 aeidns pam[124]: unable to 
> > dlopen(/usr/lib/security/required)
> > Jul 10 17:50:02 aeidns pam[124]: [dlerror: File not found]
> > Jul 10 17:50:02 aeidns pam[124]: adding faulty module: 
> > /usr/lib/security/required
> > Jul 10 17:50:02 aeidns pam[124]: (other) illegal module type: OTHER
> > Jul 10 17:50:02 aeidns pam[124]: (other) illegal control flag: account
> > Jul 10 17:50:02 aeidns pam[124]: (other) illegal module type: OTHER
> > Jul 10 17:50:02 aeidns pam[124]: (other) illegal control flag: password
> > Jul 10 17:50:02 aeidns pam[124]: (other) illegal module type: OTHER
> > Jul 10 17:50:02 aeidns pam[124]: (other) illegal control flag: 
> > session

These are caused by bugs #10497 & #10758:
"/etc/pam.d/other is in wrong format"

Just remove word OTHER from the above file to get rid of these annoying
errors.
I doubt this is affecting SAMBA though.

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Adaptec 2940 SCSI

[Robert DeLine]

I am trying to install Debian 1.3 on a Gateway 2000 with 2 2 Gig SCSI Hard
drives, a Toshiba SCSI CD hooked up to an Adaptec 2940 SCSI adaptor.

I occasionally get the setup menus to come up, but then drive 2 (which is
the drive I want to install on) is not visibale.

Most of the time, I get alot of timeout type errors in the initial boot
screens indicating problems with the SCSI bus.  I have tried to enable and
disable the disconnects on the SCSI adaptor, and use the boot option
asc7xxx=no_reset with absolutly no success.

What is the trick to getting Debian installed on this system.


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Re: CD-Writing again

[Philippe Troin]

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 15:42:21 MDT Mike Patterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> Does anyone know of any software that reads/writes Multisession CDs?

The cdrecord package supposedly does that. It's currently in unstable, but last 
time I checked it installed on a bo system. I haven't tested it though.
It also needs a modified version of mkisofs.

Phil.



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Re: NIS/AMD questions

[Philippe Troin]

On 09 Jul 1997 23:00:27 +0200 Christian Leutloff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
e.de) wrote:
> Philippe Troin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > 1) If the NIS server is down for a NIS domain, root cannot log on the 
> > console. This is annoying, accounts which are in /etc/passwd (like 
> > root) should be always accessible.
> 
> isn't it?? Under solaris this works pretty fine. Have you a root entry
> in your NIS tables?? Perhaps you should delete it. Have you set up
> nsswitch.conf to use "files" if "nis" failes??

I haven't got a root entry in the nis tables.
My nsswitch.conf is "as distributed". I thought this file was only used for 
libc6, not with libc5. It not, how do specify to fall back to the local passwd 
if NIS fails ? There is no manpage on nsswitch.conf...

Phil.



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emacs doesn't use AUC TeX

[Mark Phillips]

I have installed the auctex package, but when I use emacs to edit a file
with a .tex ending, AUC TeX is not invoked.  Why isn't it working?

Thanks.

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