Re: Date in mail headers
Hi, >>"Orn" == Orn E Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Orn> On 04-Sep-97 Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> The RFC are all the rules that actually apply to the >> internet. And if we all start ignoring the rules, the cooperative >> process that is the internet (and, indeed, Linux itself is the >> product of a similar cooperative process). Orn> The RFC are Request For Comments, and not rules. And to be Orn> perfectly sincere, there are only limited amount guidence taken Orn> from them in the corporate world. Maybe because they never fully Orn> address the need of the Internet :-) I know what letters stand for. I think you have no idea what the RFC's mean as far as the network is concerned, sorry. Also, I think you are wrong about "limited amount of guidance", unless, of course, you are talking about microsoft, which has a track record of ignoring standards. In a sense you are correct, there are *no* rules on the internet; it is just a set of cooperative servers and people. We all choose to adhere to the internet standards called the RFC's. You may choose to ignore the standards, in which case you startbreaking the co-operation. Chances are, unless you get a whole lot of people to conform to your practice, the anomaly will not cause any change in the default behaviour for most software; and if the change gets to be radical enough to break current software, it is likely that the messages will get silently tossed (not that a malformed date header is likely to cause that). Orn> There is no Debate... the question rose as somebody complained Orn> about his server software breaking on my mail... and I guessed it Orn> was because of my Date field being a quoted printable inside a Orn> header field. This is a standard, period. Indeed? Orn> However, I did start my mail client in the "C" locale, that Orn> ensures that the Date was written in "C" locale... but I was Orn> still "kicked" out of the list for it... so, I don't think the Orn> problem has anything to do with my 'Date' field, do you? :-) So, Orn> I'll just have it the way I see fit ;-) You can of course set your mail any way you want to. It may not get very far, or delivered, but you can send it out any which way you please. Orn> There are still some 7-bit servers out there (and minds Orn> ;-)... I'm not going to, neither now nor in future to comply in Orn> making my software 7-bits just for those servers, they'll just Orn> have to break, until the administrators find it with in their Orn> time to comply to evolution. These servers are out-dated by 50 Orn> years. :-) Or people just ignore what you say, cause they did not see them. You have every right to restrict distribution of your message. There is a tenet of software module design, that says "Be very precise in what you output, and be very permissive in what you accept" (my phraseology). Your statement violates that. Personally, I have found it less trouble in the long run to code defensively. I do remember when I was not as careful, though. I have said all I wnat to say about this topic. manoj -- "The sixties were good to you, weren't they?" George Carlin Manoj Srivastava mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mobile, Alabama USAhttp://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Building Debian Packages
On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Will Lowe wrote: [...] > Things that probably ought to be included but aren't: > Specific instructions on what to change in the control, rules, > etc. files. This isn't very clear, and requires a lot of hacking around > with source to figure out. While hacking is good for understanding, you > don't neccessarily need to understand deb-make/dpkg to make a package. > Yep. That will certainly be in there. In fact what I think I will do is annotate the whole rules file output by deb-make line by line. > A *brief* listing of gcc options/makefile stuff. Only the ones > that are likely to be relevant to your average maintainer who just wants > to run "rules" and have it work. True gcc hackers/unix gurus will already > know the esoteric stuff they'll need. > I think the LDP docs have something I can include or link too. I'm not going to attempt to write that stuff myself. > Righto! And the "Debian Developer's Reference" covers this in much > detail. Maybe just a line saying "If you want to become a maintainer and > upload your package, see the Developer's Reference at http://whatever."; > Yes. This didn't exist when I first wrote my piece but it deserves a prominent mention now. My draft is getting along quite nicely now and I hope to have it ready for inspection soon. When I do I suggest we move this discussion to the debian-doc mailing list to cut down on the traffic in this one. Thanks for your help. -- Jaldhar -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Date in mail headers
On 04-Sep-97 Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > The RFC are all the rules that actually apply to the > internet. And if we all start ignoring the rules, the cooperative > process that is the internet (and, indeed, Linux itself is the > product of a similar cooperative process). > > If you must have a change, and you do not think that the > current internationalization effort is not doing enough, use a Header > like X-Time and fill it anyway you wish; at least automata that > expects standard headers to bve standards conformant does not break. > The RFC are Request For Comments, and not rules. And to be perfectly sincere, there are only limited amount guidence taken from them in the corporate world. Maybe because they never fully address the need of the Internet :-) There is no Debate... the question rose as somebody complained about his server software breaking on my mail... and I guessed it was because of my Date field being a quoted printable inside a header field. This is a standard, period. However, I did start my mail client in the "C" locale, that ensures that the Date was written in "C" locale... but I was still "kicked" out of the list for it... so, I don't think the problem has anything to do with my 'Date' field, do you? :-) So, I'll just have it the way I see fit ;-) There are still some 7-bit servers out there (and minds ;-)... I'm not going to, neither now nor in future to comply in making my software 7-bits just for those servers, they'll just have to break, until the administrators find it with in their time to comply to evolution. These servers are out-dated by 50 years. :-) ...Just me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Who knows stuff about WAN cards?
On Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:13:30 -0400 (EDT), Pete Templin wrote: > >Hi there!! > >I'm doing some network consulting for a computer store, and we'd like to >connect the store LAN to the Internet through a 56k or T1 connection. If >possible, we'd like to save the expense of the router and perhaps the >CSU/DSU if possible. > >I think I've seen some adds in network magazines for WAN cards. Are any >of you using them? If so, can you tell me about driver compatibility? >Does it replace the CSU/DSU, or did you still have to rent/buy one? What >sort of interface options did you have to select from (I've heard that >different telco boxes have different interface types)? Check out http://www.sangoma.com/ I've heard good things about the wanpipe. As for an internal CSU/DSU I consider it good practice to leave that as an external modular component. www.bat.com seems to have good prices. - http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ Linux Router Project -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Date in mail headers
Hi, I do not know what the debate seems to be about, but I must take exception to this statement. >>"Orn" == Orn E Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Orn> The RFC are just guidelines... and not rules. The RFC are all the rules that actually apply to the internet. And if we all start ignoring the rules, the cooperative process that is the internet (and, indeed, Linux itself is the product of a similar cooperative process). If you must have a change, and you do not think that the current internationalization effort is not doing enough, use a Header like X-Time and fill it anyway you wish; at least automata that expects standard headers to bve standards conformant does not break. Orn> And besides, the english language is good... but it is spoken by Orn> a minority in the World. And what are you going to do with the Orn> poor suckers who can't read email? Tell them they must learn Orn> english or not know when the email they are receiving was sent? Orn> that's silly :-) No, this line of argument is silly. Do you also propose to change the header names (From:, Subject:, Date: etc)? If I can't read English, how do I know what the From and Sender and Reply-to headers mean? Try and change them to your native language. manoj -- "No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it." Schulz Manoj Srivastava mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mobile, Alabama USAhttp://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SCSI Host Adapter (+ Re: 2 CPU servers)
THANK YOU SO MUCH for all infos, I won't miss the doc and WEB site you suggested (I also think they will deal with possible/real transfer rates, of course related to the kind of hard disk or other device you connect to the card). Cheers. Nicola Bernardelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Please use <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for messages from any kind of robot, such as mailing lists. From that address no autoresponse messages will return even when I'm not at home. --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ppp connection a little too slow...
Hi! > I think my ppp conection is a little too slow ... I have a 33.6 modem > (but only a 8250 uart) and when I access a webpage from Linux, it > . > Does someone know how to boost the speed a little ? Have I made som > settings wrong ? No way. Not with that UART. To operate your modem at full speed you *need* a 16550A. feri. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Colors in the prompt like in slackware ?
See /usr/doc/fileutils/color-ls.gz which describes how to get colors in the directory listings. The quick answer is: ls --color or alias ls='ls --color=auto' in sh type shells. I hope this helps. // Heikki -- Heikki Vatiainen * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tampere University of Technology * Tampere, Finland -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
WantWEB/Linux/IP Masquerading
Howdy all! Just wanted to get some information from those of you out there that might have some... I recently purchased a house, and I would like to get some sort of internet hookup that my friends and I could use. There are 5 computers, each either running Linux or Win95 all connected to a common "fileserver" (saves diskspace) What I'd like to do is have the server on-line 24/7. Other machines would drop off and on as they were being used. The other machines could be accessing WWW, email/news (from server), playing internet games (like using battle.net), or using a communications program like speakfreely. I've been told that by using the miracles of IP masquerading, I can do this by purchasing a single connection for the server, and letting the remainder of the machines "leach" off it in some way. Finally, one of the methods of connecting that looked interesting was something called "WantWEB". The idea is that the downloads are VIA satellite, and very fast, but uploads had to go through a normal phone line and were limited to the 56K modems. Has anyone tried using this on a Linux box? if so, how successful were you? was the "cable-modem" device difficult to find drivers for? Thanks, Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Colors in the prompt like in slackware ?
Hi ! Just wondering if it is possible to put some colors on the directory listings ... like there is in Slackware ? It sure makes it easyer to see which of the object that are directories, and which are files... Regards, badpixel of bad sector michael legart -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW icq uin -> 2565176 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ppp connection a little too slow...
Hi ! I think my ppp conection is a little too slow ... I have a 33.6 modem (but only a 8250 uart) and when I access a webpage from Linux, it loads most of the pictures at about 500 bytes/sec. Thats SLOW ! If it is a little bigger files, it can get to about 1.9-2 kb/sec, which is what the speed normaly is, when I use Win95. Does someone know how to boost the speed a little ? Have I made som settings wrong ? Regards, badpixel of bad sector michael legart -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW icq uin -> 2565176 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: MPEG doesn't work from any gr browser; Netscape probs.
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Re: Who knows stuff about WAN cards?
Pete Templin wrote: > > > Hi there!! > > I'm doing some network consulting for a computer store, and we'd like to > connect the store LAN to the Internet through a 56k or T1 connection. If > possible, we'd like to save the expense of the router and perhaps the > CSU/DSU if possible. Very possible. > I think I've seen some adds in network magazines for WAN cards. Are any > of you using them? If so, can you tell me about driver compatibility? > Does it replace the CSU/DSU, or did you still have to rent/buy one? What > sort of interface options did you have to select from (I've heard that > different telco boxes have different interface types)? I've used the SDL 56k and T1 boards. Buoy.com is currently running on the T1 board. I have a 56k card to sell... :) They have worked tremendously for us, and clients I've used them at. The 56k card runs about $600, and the T1 card about $1000. These are the ones with the builtin csu, and you can buy them without it. Emerging Technologies makes some cards too, but they are pricy (IMO), and they cater to BSD systems... although they have a good driver for linux, and a steady following. I've just had exceptional luck from SDL. The drivers are working with 1.2.13 and 2.0.30 on our systems, and the T1 card will do FT1 also, from 64k on up. You really don't have interface options. They bring you a connector(56k) or a smart jack (T1), which you simply plug a 10BaseT cable into, and the other end into your WAN board, or csu if you choose the separate components route. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps "The courage to imagine the otherwise is our greatest resource, adding color and suspense to all our life." - Daniel J. Boorstin ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Date in mail headers
On 03-Sep-97 Clare Johnstone wrote: > >If not sorted at all, listed as they arrive, the threads are in good >order. For example the date on >Orn's mail as received just now is: >Date: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mi=F0,?= 03 Sep 1997 23:00:14 +0200 (CET DST) Which is: Date: Mið, 03 Sep 1997 23:00:14 +0200 (CET DST) > >My "Received" time is:Thu, 4 Sep 1997 06:00:09 (Western Australia) > >My clock is undoubtedly permanently and irretrievably "mis-set" :) >I think no-one really wants all dates in GMT. > >cheers, clare > Every server that handles an email message, stamps the email. An email will thus have a long list of 'Received' lines. The first in the list will be the original server, which will be the server to whom you sent the mail, when you hit the return key to 'send' the email. And have the same date stamp :-) However, in the case of mailing lists, as this one. This does become a little more complicated. As an email is sent to the list, and the list server stores the email, and when it sends it back to you, the first stamp will thus be the date the list server sends you the mail... and not the date when the author wrote it. But the problem lies in, that the 'Date' field is like the 'Subject' field a display field, that will in many cases be in locale format. As it is created by the email client, and not a system stamp. But since you're english :-) this particular date is in your locale format, and your program can easily decipher it. But in say, Sweden, where a person will be sending 80% of his/her email to people reading swedish, it makes sense that the Date they read on the screan is in swedish, or their own locale :-) But when your program will start decyphering the date into machine readable format, using 'your' locale date-specifics... it'll just get lost ;-) ...just me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Date in mail headers
On 03-Sep-97 Olaf Weber wrote: > >RFC822 would be the appropriate one here, and it does impose some >restrictions regarding what can and cannot be a date header: > > 5. DATE AND TIME SPECIFICATION > > 5.1. SYNTAX > > date-time = [ day "," ] date time; dd mm yy > ; hh:mm:ss zzz > > day = "Mon" / "Tue" / "Wed" / "Thu" > / "Fri" / "Sat" / "Sun" > >So it certainly looks like Orn needs to fix his mailer. > The RFC are just guidelines... and not rules. And the above guideline applies to system times. Not to the contents of subject or date headers. These are display fields, that are filled in by the client programs. And besides, the english language is good... but it is spoken by a minority in the World. And what are you going to do with the poor suckers who can't read email? Tell them they must learn english or not know when the email they are receiving was sent? that's silly :-) ...just me Quote of the Day: "Everybody who can't read english... will be shot!" -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Who knows stuff about WAN cards?
Hi there!! I'm doing some network consulting for a computer store, and we'd like to connect the store LAN to the Internet through a 56k or T1 connection. If possible, we'd like to save the expense of the router and perhaps the CSU/DSU if possible. I think I've seen some adds in network magazines for WAN cards. Are any of you using them? If so, can you tell me about driver compatibility? Does it replace the CSU/DSU, or did you still have to rent/buy one? What sort of interface options did you have to select from (I've heard that different telco boxes have different interface types)? Thanks for your help, Pete -- Peter J. Templin, Jr. Client Services Analyst Computer & Communication Services tel: (717) 524-1590 Bucknell University [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ethernet card suggestions
I've had extremely good luck with the Kingston Tulip based cards. They're fairly cheap ($50 or so for 10mb, $90 or so for 100mb), and i've found them to be very fast, reliable, and well-supported by Linux. The 10mb card is a combo card (aui, utp, coax all on one card). Simon Karpen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Fixing Unix is easier than living with NT." --Larry McVoy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SCSI Host Adapter (+ Re: 2 CPU servers)
Nicola Bernardelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There was mention of a specific model, Buslogic BT-948: is it such a > "low-end" card or one with that CPU onboard? The BT-948 and all other "MultiMaster" models have onboard CPUs. The 948 is BusLogic's equivalent to the Adaptec 2940U. The 958 compares to the 2940UW (Wide). The FlashPoint series of cards use the host CPU instead of a dedicated CPU. You can get the cheapest one (can't remember the model) for around $120 if you shop around. It also supports Ultra-20 transfers. I really like these cards, but I have not tried one with Linux. I know they work, but I don't know if you pay much of a performance penalty. I suspect the performance penalty is small: the CPU on the other cards is just a slow Intel 80186. With a fast machine, it's probably worth 0.5% more CPU utilization. Has anyone benchmarked the difference with Bonnie on identical systems and drives?? Note that the non-CPU FlashPoint models are the only ones available with twin-bus configurations. BusLogic is marketing these at the server segment. If the dedicated CPU was a big performance win, I don't think they would do that. > Better question: what do you think is a medium-high level BusLogic > card with good price/performance ratio and - most important - well > performing (reliable and fast) with Debian GNU/Linux? I think if you can afford it, you should probably go with a MultiMaster model. Otherwise get the cheaper FlashPoint model -- unless you need two SCSI buses on one card. All of them will be reliable, while the MultiMaster has a theoretical edge on speed. > And what about 2 CPU usage? I read on this list recently that the > kernel is getting mature for Linux with such motherboards: Linux 2.2 will be a lot better, but 2.0 with the right patches seems to work acceptably well. It's probably not a good fit for most people at this point. If you have any other questions about the BusLogic SCSI adapters, I suggest reading "drivers/scsi/README.BusLogic" in the kernel source tree. And check out the web page listed there, as well as http://www.buslogic.com. Thanks, Jeff -- Make it idiot-proof, and someone will breed a better idiot. PGP mail welcome! Visit http://www.planetfall.com/pgp.html for my PGP key. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Date in mail headers
On 03-Sep-97 George Bonser wrote: > >I STRONGLY disagree. I want to know when you wrote it ... not when it >arrived here. If a mail was delayed a day or two in route, it might >completely change how I look at the information in the email. Example, a >put-down of Princess Diana might be viewed in poor taste if it arrives >after she died but might be perfectly acceptable expression of opinion if >authored three days earlier and delayed in route. > I could easily be using a custom mail client, and the 'date' field is created when I write it. But nothing says I have to actually send it when I write it. I can wait a day or two, and then hit the return key to send it. The first system stamp, is the stamp of the original receiver, telling when the email started it's 'email route'. And thus the most reliable source as to when the email was sent. As it is the system that makes these stamps when the email passes by, and not the user, However, the 'Date' field is displayed on my screen when I view my email. And It is therefore for display and will be in locale format, in many situations. ...just me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is PPP helping me?
Aldrin Leal wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: > > > You must be passing the defaultroute option to pppd. This option may > > be specified on the pppd command line or in the /etc/ppp/options > > file. Remove this option. > > I tried with/without defaultroute. tried the "0.0.0.0:" kludge on > /etc/ppp/options. After some discussion, i'm also suspecting of a misuse > of network/broadcast/netmask. > > This leads me to a quick question: is a broadcast address needed? :) Yes, a net interface always wants a broadcast address. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xfs doesn't seem to be working
> Xfs is running, but have you configured your xserver to use it? I did it by > modifying my XF86Config, commenting out my old FontPath, and adding: > > # Use font server. > FontPath "tcp/localhost:7100" This seems to do it. Shouldn't the configuration program have done this when it asked about starting xfs? The mouse continues to work, and top shows xfs taking bursts of cycles. ps x shows 973 ? S 2:59 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -auth /var/lib/xdm/authdir/authfiles/A:0-a00971 should I be bothered that this doesn't include a reference to port 7100? (i recall that macbsd did, but i had to start x manually with the explicit reference. rick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Segfault in free(), electric-fence for C++ ?
> Alex Yukhimets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > I have some strange problem with my C++ code: I get a segmentation fault
> > in destructor's delete[] operator. GDB says it happend in free().
> > What could be the cause of that? The only place I touch the pointer
> > I pass to delete[] is in the constructor while allocating memory with new.
>
> I got this while trying to get xosview to compile and run cleanly. It
> was calling the destructor for particular objects twice.
>
> Try running it with different values of the environment variable
> MALLOC_CHECK_, i.e.:
>
Thanks a lot for everybody.
After linking with electric-fence, I finaly nailed the place I write off
the array boundary. After fixing that, I have no more segfaults in
destructor.
Thanks again. You literally saved my day.
Alex Y.
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Re: xfs doesn't seem to be working
Rick Hawkins wrote: > The solution for this is xfs, which is supposedly running. However, looking > at top from a regular console, it is X taking all the cycles, while xfs is > idle. Xfs is running, but have you configured your xserver to use it? I did it by modifying my XF86Config, commenting out my old FontPath, and adding: # Use font server. FontPath "tcp/localhost:7100" -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: a problem
Martin Bees wrote: > > I would be very grateful if anyone could help me with a > small problem concerning the boot disk of Debian/Linux > (+all other Linux versions). > Simply, version 2.0.29 boot disks crash on my Laptop > shortly after it probes for the PCI devices. > It says unrecognized PCI device and then crashes, > saying "Unknown PCI device (1039:5107)." > > Version 1.2.3 boot disk almost works but apparently > fails to recognize 3 PCI devices. > It says: > Unknown PCI device. PCI vendor id=1c. PCI dev id=5107 > ---18 ---9660 > ---119b ---1221 This message is not harmful and probably has nothing to do with the crash. Are you booting from CD? Many computers can't seem to boot from CD (including the two I've tried it on!). > but recognizes other devices (Hitachi_dk225A-21, CD-211E ATAPI, > ide0, ide1, mcd=0x300,10 floppy drive fd0 1.44M, FDC0 is a > post-1991 82007, serial driver ver 4.11, PS/2 pointing dev.) If I remember correctly, the mcd device is for the proprietary Mitsumi CD interface, but you say you have an ATAPI drive. This could be a problem. > My laptop is a Zitech Notebook (TFT, Pentium 166MHz, 32MB) > with a 3COM 589D card that doesn't seem to be recognized at all. pcmcia ethernet must be loaded after the boot, at least for the debian install. Sorry. > Not everything works on ver 1.2.3 > (like the net, and I'm missing > most of the useful stuff anyway). > > The proc/pci file says: > > bus 0dev 0 func 0 > host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems 85C501 (rev 0) > bus 0dev 1 func 0 > ISA bridge : Silicon Integrated Systems 85C503 (rev 1) > > I would be most grateful if you had any suggestions/ideas... > > I would really like to boot the ver 2.0.30 CD anyway. If it crashes during the boot how do you get /proc/pci output? -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
libX11.a
I'm trying to compile a program and it's asking for libX11.a What package contains this ?? Thanks, Matthew -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Radius
On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 17:15:20 -0500, Tony Koehn wrote: >Merit Radius 2.4.23C Hmm then I can't help much since I never used that one. What are you're logs showning? Anything? - http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ Linux Router Project -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
MPEG doesn't work from any gr browser; Netscape probs.
I have installed both the ucbmpeg player and mtv player, and set up netscape for each. I have consistently not been able to view mpegs. Each time an mpeg file comes over the line, this message is displayed in a dialog box, from Netscape as well as from Mosaic: Using private color-map Bad MPEG? Giving up. Try mpeg_stat -verify to see if the stream is valid. I cannot find a command "mpeg_stat". I was able to run "mpeg_play" from an xterm on an FTPed test mpeg. What is a "private color-map"? I have had other netscape proglems, such as the intermittent death by "bus error" and a creeping and increasing slowness over hours of time, in the responsiveness of only the netscape window to mouseclicks. A problem I had earlier has persisted, but is only an irritation: often netscape won't boot up. If I try again to start it from an xterm, it might or might not boot on a second try. In this case, a message is recieved about a lock file, but that while netscape might run, cache will not be able to be used, etc. if the lock file isn't removed. Then if I just say, ok, netscape, once again, might not, or might start. I tried 24bpp, 32bpp, 16bpp, with no difference. (Did not affect the mpeg player either). Sometimes I can get netscape to start with the -iconic switch. It's more or less random, as far as I can tell. Sometimes it will start on the third try. Once, amazingly, a netscape process was running, but wasn't showing up, when I quit X. For a split second the outline of the netscape window appeared! Another thing: when I try to access a site with a live midi background feed, netscape dies with the mysterious "bus error". I haven't been able to get my Yamaha Asound (OPL3-2A) sound card configured yet for midi, but this happened before I installed a sound card at all. Sorry to ramble on so long. I think these problems are related? I would appreciate any advice. And I do appreciate the excellent advice I have received many times over this mailing list. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
How to upgrade a package safely?
Hi, this happened to me for the second time, and I don't want to reinstall the whole system again in the future: Everythig worked fine, I was quite happy not to use win95. Then I decided to update some packages. I downloaded some newer packages, run dselect, and selected only xbase (X was not running). The upgrading ended with many error messages like this: file ... is a circular link ... or cannot proceed, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver is a directory Then I tried to remove xbase but it didn't work. The same thing happened to me few moths ago, so I knew what to expect. I quit dselect and run fsck. But it made everything even worse, many important (system) files were moved to /lost&found , which furthermore got many not existing files, when I did ls -l, the output was: ... #045236 file does not exist and so on ... dselect was not working any more because all configuration files were gone. I shut down the system and decided to try to fix it tomorow. Then during next booting, kernel complained about missing files and later fsck started to fix the filesystem again. After that every command I typed, printed file system error messages. And the worst thing was that e2fsck couldn't even recognise the file system. Now I'm busy with reinstalling everything. The same thing happened few months ago (actually I tried to upgrade packages only two times and both times ended with compete reinstalation). My question is, what is the safe way to upgrade some package? Should I remove it first? Thanks for any hints, Luka -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Front page
Does anyone know where I can go to get some help on Front Page for Unix?? Don't seem to know what I am doing here I am looking for any kind of help or list server or newsgroup. Tony -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[X] Changing input focus in X
I have my fvwm desktop set up to be nine times the size of the actual monitor. I've got a little pager in the bottom of my screen that lets me see all the desktops. I'm a keyboard person, as opposed to a mouse person. I'd like ALT-TAB to change focus *only* on the current desktop. Right now, ALT-TAB changes focus only *between* desktops ... so it moves me from one desktop to another, but not from application to application within one desktop. I'd prefer it to just stay in the current desktop and change applications, and require me to mouse over to the next desktop. Can anyone tell me how to do this? Will --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ For PGP Public Key, visit my website. --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Is PPP helping me?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello! I was building a proxy system yesterday, and i had a strange trouble. I've installed Linux, set up everything. A Dream of a Intranet. I can ping back and forth between the ether. Set up pppd. But, when firing up, it messes up my routes. I cannot ping home anymore. I even can't ping everything on the net who passes over the remote router. Any hints? Any faulty bug related to this? How can i fix this up without losing my faith in Smart Linux Boxes? :] done. Aldrin Leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBNA4aIIKH1wkmqet5AQFkugL+J13nVlyISVai+rdM+ndmn2XmLhGCaai9 +XmJQglMHb4ne6352Xax3WTho5rjI48tvuoXKNiQvw8ASifmT5UcVCZUsZF+jgtv X+RuO3uca/3q5AJzWQNepn5Dhx89XmDj =KAU9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Date in mail headers
On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, George Bonser wrote: > > I STRONGLY disagree. I want to know when you wrote it ... not when it > arrived here. If a mail was delayed a day or two in route, it might > completely change how I look at the information in the email. Example, a > put-down of Princess Diana might be viewed in poor taste if it arrives > after she died but might be perfectly acceptable expression of opinion if > authored three days earlier and delayed in route. [snip] As often as not I seem to read the answers before I get to the originating post, which is unhelpful. This morning, for instance, there was a message from the list with a timezone of BST. Date: Wed, 3 Sep 97 15:56 BST From: [snip] To: Debian developers list Pine does not know what BST is, or PDT either for that matter, and neither do I. The message was processed as originating at 15:56 local time. Is this way of describing timezones according to the RFC? Lindsay =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 2486modem +61 8 9364-9832 32S, 116E =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: MPEG doesn't work from any gr browser; Netscape probs.
Alan Eugene Davis wrote: > > I have installed both the ucbmpeg player and mtv player, and set up > netscape for each. I have consistently not been able to view mpegs. > Each time an mpeg file comes over the line, this message is displayed > in a dialog box, from Netscape as well as from Mosaic: > >Using private color-map >Bad MPEG? Giving up. >Try mpeg_stat -verify to see if the stream is valid. > > I cannot find a command "mpeg_stat". > > I was able to run "mpeg_play" from an xterm on an FTPed test mpeg. Is your bash version 2.0? If so then this might be your problem. bash 2.0 has a parser error which incorrectly interprets subshell expressions like the ones netscape uses to start plug-in applications like mpeg-play. So far the package mainainer has not stepped forward to release 2.01 for debian version 1.3.1. I have compiled a binary which can be got from http://gatekeeper.bdsinc.com/~jjorgens but it depends on the termcap-compat package (ie. don't replace your existing shell without having this package). On the other hand, this may not be your problem, in which case I can't imagine what's going on. The errors you report are pretty weird. > > What is a "private color-map"? It's an X thang. Some display adapters can display a rainbow of colors, but only 256 different colors at a time. Basically a color map is the X representation of this "palette". You can see the effects when you use a private color map when running X in 256 color mode and then display something with a lot of color (like a jpeg). When you switch focus in and out of the jpeg-displaying window, the colors on the screen will switch back and forth. That is, only the window with focus will have "normal" color while everything else has seemingly random color. You have to try it to really see what I mean. > I have had other netscape proglems, such as the intermittent death by > "bus error" and a creeping and increasing slowness over hours of time, > in the responsiveness of only the netscape window to mouseclicks. I've had bus errors and they were due to the gnumalloc problem. Did you use the debian installer .deb to set up netscape, or did you just get the tar.gz from netscape and install that? > A problem I had earlier has persisted, but is only an irritation: > often netscape won't boot up. If I try again to start it from an > xterm, it might or might not boot on a second try. In this case, a > message is recieved about a lock file, but that while netscape might > run, cache will not be able to be used, etc. if the lock file isn't > removed. Then if I just say, ok, netscape, once again, might not, or > might start. > > I tried 24bpp, 32bpp, 16bpp, with no difference. (Did not affect the > mpeg player either). I also saw this behavior when the "fixes" for the gnumalloc problem had not been applied. Netscape would hang forever, *never* coming up. > Sometimes I can get netscape to start with the -iconic switch. It's > more or less random, as far as I can tell. Sometimes it will start on > the third try. > > Once, amazingly, a netscape process was running, but wasn't showing > up, when I quit X. For a split second the outline of the netscape > window appeared! This was just because it was hung before it never got to "visualize" the window. > Another thing: when I try to access a site with a live midi > background feed, netscape dies with the mysterious "bus error". > I haven't been able to get my Yamaha Asound (OPL3-2A) sound card > configured yet for midi, but this happened before I installed a sound > card at all. > > Sorry to ramble on so long. I think these problems are related? I > would appreciate any advice. And I do appreciate the excellent advice > I have received many times over this mailing list. Again, if you didn't install netscape with the netscape debian package this is most likely your problem. Note that even with the debian package installer you'll have problems with plug-in apps due the the bash problem I mentioned above. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Segfault in free(), electric-fence for C++ ?
On Wed, Sep 03, 1997 at 05:07:11PM +0200, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: > > I have some strange problem with my C++ code: I get a segmentation fault > > in destructor's delete[] operator. GDB says it happend in free(). > > What could be the cause of that? The only place I touch the pointer > > I pass to delete[] is in the constructor while allocating memory with new. > > There can be lots of causes. If you write beyond bounds anywhere in > your program, this kind of errors can occur some place after the error, > or not at all. I suggest having a lunch break. Today I was working on a C++ problem with a team for some hours, and memory seemed to be getting clobbered. We were using cvs, and we all committed changes etc and went to lunch. When we came back, checked out fresh source copies, and it worked. Two programs were having the same bug in one of the base classes. We don't know what changed, but it works now. So, take a lunch break. :-) > of error is extremely hard to pin down, especially in larger programs. > The simple fact that your program runs OK on one platform using one > compiler doesn't mean there are no errors which can turn out fatal with > different compilers or on different platforms. I have been able to > crash ddd on this particular problem :(. Try a different compiler, perhaps. I have not found g++ to be the most helpful ever, eg it will not tell you which exception occurred, just Abort. We are developing on Solaris so we have Sun CC, which is nicer. The compiler finds more problems, gives exception messages (and supports exceptions without the -fhandle-exceptions kludge), and never gives interal compilre errors, which g++ has been quite a bit. (2.7.2.2) Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [* ] 53% The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. --Bohr -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Front page
>Does anyone know where I can go to get some help on Front Page for Unix?? Yep. >Don't seem to know what I am doing here Welcome to hell. It gets worse from here. On the plus side the new version of Frontpage (FP98) is by all accounts much better. >I am looking for any kind of help or list server or newsgroup. http://larry.earthlight.co.nz/frontpage.html http://frontpage.netnation.com/ There is also a Frontpage news group, dedicated to the discussion of the FP extensions on UNIX. It's called something like comp.ms.frontpage.unix but I can't remember. Just search for anything with frontpage in it. Adam. -- Earthlight Communications Limited - P.O. Box 5301 Adam Shand (fax) +64 3 477 5463 Dunedin, New Zealand Systems Manager (voice) +64 3 479 0303 --- http://larry.earthlight.co.nz/ --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: can't locate module char-major-10
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Newbe question...
Greetings, I'm trying to install Debian (latest release) from floppies onto a '386 system that has only 4 Meg of RAM. (I'm going to try using lmemroot.bin on floppy2.) 1) Is this "too little" RAM for such a system? 2) Will I have a "usable" system if I can pull this off? Apologies to the grizzled veterans on this reflector. :-) Glenn in Connecticut My personal home page--about ham radio: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/1138/index.html Interested in learning about Amateur Radio (aka ham radio)? Try surfing to the ARRL home page at: http://www.arrl.org/index.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Installing the official CD
I have 3.1 installed from floppys. There were some problems with some of the packages I tried to install. Most of these were caused by modem errors I think. It was certainly a mistake to try to install so many packages simultaniously. Anyway I decided to order the 3.1.1 cd and work from there. It will give me a stable platform to return to if I have trouble in the future. I do not actually have a cd rom drive yet. (minor technical detail :) I am in the procces of ordering one. I have the following questions 1. May I assume that any standard ide cd rom device will work with debian? The CDs do not come with any instructions so I am really not sure what to do with them 2. How do I tell my existing installation about the cd rom drive? 3. Would it be better to scrap the old 3.1 install and do a fresh install with 3.1.1 disks and then install packages from the CD? 4. Since the CDs do not also come with install disks I presume there must be some way to install directly from the CDs, but since my macine does not boot from the rom drive How is this done? Any other general information about installing devices in debian, or about installing from the CD set is appriciated. Thank you for any assistance -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to upgrade a package safely?
> Then during next booting, kernel complained about missing files and later > fsck started to fix the filesystem again. After that every command I typed, > printed file system error messages. And the worst thing was that e2fsck > couldn't even recognise the file system. Warning, the following suggestion will destroy any data remaining on the harddrive. With that said, run badblocks from a rescue disk on your harddrive. Use the -w switch which uses a write test and should pick up any problems. Bad blocks wants the block count, which I think you can get from fdisk. I personnally first run mke2fs -c /dev/???, see what badblocks options it uses, cancel mke2fs and run badblocks adding the -w, go watch some tv, return and run mke2fs. I say this because your symptoms point to a hardware problem (unless maybe you are running an unstable kernel from the 2.1 set). A bad harddrive is the first thing that comes to mind. It may be correctable, and badblocks will let you know if there are problems (I seem to recall using the -o option, and passing the file back to mke2fs once). Anyway, read the man pages of these two, and good luck, Brandon - Brandon Mitchell E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7877/home.html PGP: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] "We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." --Linus Torvalds -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Date in mail headers
Jason Gunthorpe writes: > On 8859 xxx 2001, Orn E. Hansen wrote: >> On 02-Sep-97 Jason Gunthorpe wrote: >>> Orn, your mailer is formatting dates in a way that pine doesn't understand >> HDate: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mi=F0,?= 03 Sep 1997 19:14:09 +0200 (CET DST) > I noticed that, why is your mailer putting such an unusual date, is that > specified in the various mail RFCs? RFC822 would be the appropriate one here, and it does impose some restrictions regarding what can and cannot be a date header: 5. DATE AND TIME SPECIFICATION 5.1. SYNTAX date-time = [ day "," ] date time; dd mm yy ; hh:mm:ss zzz day = "Mon" / "Tue" / "Wed" / "Thu" / "Fri" / "Sat" / "Sun" So it certainly looks like Orn needs to fix his mailer. -- Olaf Weber -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is PPP helping me?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: > You must be passing the defaultroute option to pppd. This option may > be specified on the pppd command line or in the /etc/ppp/options > file. Remove this option. I tried with/without defaultroute. tried the "0.0.0.0:" kludge on /etc/ppp/options. After some discussion, i'm also suspecting of a misuse of network/broadcast/netmask. This leads me to a quick question: is a broadcast address needed? :) done. Aldrin Leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBNA7Y7IKH1wkmqet5AQE/xwMAujjOCXu5KgWmKSw81cWEGHwDI+PzcGTA S8iYOVdq6RsSbYyLrft6RS8/ISO55d9UiiiWujlK065zWsemJVzPrmwobH1XSs5j xeWURgXYJ31TLF8Rnihj9ejKZ82AJa3i =M0xS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ethernet card suggestions
Tomorrow we're moving our company server machine to a new ISP. Right now it has a UTP SMC 8216 Ultra in it, but the new ISP only has coax (:-(), and we're not too sure what to do about an ethernet card. We would like to spend a little bit more than just a PCI NE2000 and get something we know is reliable. We can Intel EtherExpress for around $115-$145 Australian, which is acceptable, but we can get the NE2000 for $30. Is it worth it? 3Com are even more expensive again it seems. SMC might be a possibility but harder to get. What do people recommend? I will have this machine back to fiddle with for perhaps an hour, so we want it to work and keep working, but it isn't mission critical so if it dies, it does. Cost is an issue. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [* ] 53% The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. --Bohr -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Building Debian Packages
On Tue, 2 Sep 1997, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > On Tue, 2 Sep 1997, Will Lowe wrote: > > > I'd reccomend the "Makeing a debian Package" page, which is pretty good > As the author of that article, I am gratified that someone actually finds > it useful. Very! > > It's too easy. This is by design. My target audience was people like me. Please keep it this way. Let's make things as obvious and idiot-proof as possible. > It's too hard. One suggestion I had was to include stuff about gcc > options, makefiles etc. There is a need for something like this but it's Things that probably ought to be included but aren't: Specific instructions on what to change in the control, rules, etc. files. This isn't very clear, and requires a lot of hacking around with source to figure out. While hacking is good for understanding, you don't neccessarily need to understand deb-make/dpkg to make a package. A *brief* listing of gcc options/makefile stuff. Only the ones that are likely to be relevant to your average maintainer who just wants to run "rules" and have it work. True gcc hackers/unix gurus will already know the esoteric stuff they'll need. And: > conf files, install scripts and integrating with the menu package > It doesn't explain how to become a Debian maintainer, upload your package > etc. I have mixed feelings about this. You don't need to be Debian > maintainer to want to create .debs. Though I am one now, I originally Righto! And the "Debian Developer's Reference" covers this in much detail. Maybe just a line saying "If you want to become a maintainer and upload your package, see the Developer's Reference at http://whatever."; Will --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ For PGP Public Key, visit my website. --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [Common Lisp] I'm working on the clisp package...
On 31 Aug 1997, John Goerzen wrote: > How does this differ from gcl (GNU Common Lisp)? > I haven't used GCL much. Clisp is GPL'd, so it's just as distributable as GCL. I'm using clisp because it appeared o be a little further along in the development stage. Clisp is also (now) available as a debian package :) Will --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ For PGP Public Key, visit my website. --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Private XF-Mail package available
On 02-Sep-97 Craig Sanders wrote: >anyway, that's all beside the point. what i'm really writing to say is: >if you'd like to maintain the package for debian, i'll send you what >i've done so far. Sure, I will take it. I will send you an address where you can put it by anon ftp via private email. Which version did you make? The later versions are supposed to be much enhanced though > >from memory, my package doesn't need much work (maybe a little tidying up) >to be suitable for inclusion in non-free. > >(its copyright says "This software can be freely distributed and modified >for non-commercial purposes as long as the above copyright message and >this permission notice appear in all copies of distributed source code or >included as separate file in binary distribution. Commercial use of this >software requires the permission of the authors.") > >craig > >-- >craig sanders >networking consultant Available for casual or contract >temporary autonomous zone system administration tasks. > > > >-- >TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] . >Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Red Hat's Xconfigurator for Debian?
Hi, I tried to install the XConfigurator and newt RPM packages from Red Hat onto Debian, using the alien program. I was able to start XConfigurator, but it was apparently looking for some Red Hat administrative files. Is there a version of XConfigurator for Debian? The default XF86Setup program does not work very well with my video card and monitor. Thanks! --Arthur -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Red Hat's Xconfigurator for Debian?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Jerijian) writes: > I tried to install the XConfigurator and newt RPM packages from Red Hat > onto Debian, using the alien program. I was able to start XConfigurator, > but it was apparently looking for some Red Hat administrative files. Is > there a version of XConfigurator for Debian? The default XF86Setup > program does not work very well with my video card and monitor. > The Debian version of XConfigurator is your favourite editor! ;-) Why don't you simply try tweaking your /etc/X11/XF86Config manually in combination with 'xvidtune'? Worked like a charm for me streamlining my custom monitor modeline! :-) Cheers, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany My Homepage in the WWW at the URL http://www.uni-mainz.de/~pseelig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[OFF TOPIC] was: Segfault in free()...C++
Jeff Gunter:
> FWIW, I have also had problems with SGI's C++ compiler and g++ (on the same
> SGI) being incompatible. The incompatibilities are even to the level where
> code will compile cleanly under one compiler and not compile at all under the
> other. These two compilers are definitely not interchangable.
Wildly off topic, but a fun view into `commercial quality software', let
me show you the output of CC under IRIX 64 with the following
application:
hw.cc:
#include
int main() { cout << "Hello world." << endl; return 0; }
> CC -fullwarn -o hw hw.cc
"/usr/include/CC/iostream.h", line 236: remark(1506): implicit
conversion from
"long" to "int": rounding, sign extension, or loss of
accuracy may
result
x_blen= (eb>b) ? (eb-b) : 0 ;
^
"/usr/include/CC/iostream.h", line 265: remark(1506): implicit
conversion from
"long" to "int": rounding, sign extension, or loss of
accuracy may
result
return x_gptr Suggestion: If possible take a step backwards and get g++ and SGI C++ both on
> the SGI and do a side-by-side comparison. If the both work and give the same
> output (maybe even the RIGHT output if you know what that should be), then you
> have grounds for suspecting your problem of being linux (or g++ under linux)
> related.
Probably yes. But you're never sure. That's why I'm happily awaiting
gcc 2.8.0 for some time now ... :(
I know I shouldn't ask, but has anybody a hint when this beast will hit
the, er, `market'?
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Re: X11R6?
On Sep 3, Britton wrote > I have one of these CD's also, with lots of problems with X. I am having > trouble upgrading via the ftp method. I choose pretty much the standard > options, and it hangs like this: > > Using FTP to check directories...(stop with ^C) > > Connecting to ftp.debian.org... > Login as anonymous... > > Then nothing. Now here is the sad part: It was working less before, and > I got an error on line 7 of a script (the name of which I forget). I > forget what I did to fix this error exactly, I think it had to do with > getting the new dpkg-ftp installed, although I think I thought I had done > that before. Unfortunately, I had already edited this script in an effort > to fix things, it was a line with ftp:Net or something like that in it. I > suspect this may be what is getting me. I reinstalled dpkg-ftp in an > effort to fix this problem, but no luck. Would it be helpful and safe to > purge and reload dpkg itself (mayby that is where the script is)? I am > reluctant to try it. Any ideas greatly appreciated. My guess is that you fixed something in a script belonging to ?libnet-perl? which provides libnet [*] on which dpkg-ftp depends. Try reinstalling that package. [*] look for "Provides:.*libnet" in /var/lib/dpkg/available to find the precise package name. HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
exim - smail - sendmail: my experience.
I regard myself still as a newby as far as linux is concerned. I have been using smail for about a year now. After receiving a cd with Debian 1.3.1 on it, I decided to try out the exim as well. I have read somewhere that it is faster and easier to configure than the others. Not for me. I could not get it working properly. The configuration script looks like smail's. The same answers, however, does not have the same effect. So I removed exim again. I think I have tried it out about 5 or 6 times now without success. I then tried out sendmail and was impressed by the configuration script. When I tried to send mail, however, it seemed to take ages to receive mail from pine. I supposes that I did something wrong in the configuration process. Manual configuration looks very complicated, so I removed sendmail again. Now I am working with smail again... Johann. Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsorlaan 19 Pietermaritzburg 3201 Suid Afrika (South Africa) Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
440LX chipset
I am considering buying a new computer and would like to get a Pentium II with the new 440LX chipset. My concern is over the AGP graphics. Would I be able to use debian with AGP? Are there any compatibility issues with 440LX? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
test, please ignore
Hi, sorry for this mail but I don't seem to be receiving any mails from the debian-user list anymore :-(. Just testing. Nico. -- -- Nico De Ranter Sony Objective Composer (SOCOM) Sint Stevens Woluwestraat 55 (Rue de Woluwe-Saint-Etienne) 1130 Brussel (Bruxelles), Belgium, Europe, Earth Telephone: +32 2 724 17 41 Telefax: +32 2 726 26 86 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Segfault in free(), electric-fence for C++ ?
Alex Yukhimets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have some strange problem with my C++ code: I get a segmentation fault > in destructor's delete[] operator. GDB says it happend in free(). > What could be the cause of that? The only place I touch the pointer > I pass to delete[] is in the constructor while allocating memory with new. I got this while trying to get xosview to compile and run cleanly. It was calling the destructor for particular objects twice. Try running it with different values of the environment variable MALLOC_CHECK_, i.e.: % ./xosview zsh: segmentation fault ./xosview % MALLOC_CHECK_=0 ./xosview % MALLOC_CHECK_=1 ./xosview malloc: using debugging hooks free(): invalid pointer 805af60! free(): invalid pointer 805af70! free(): invalid pointer 805af80! free(): invalid pointer 805af90! free(): invalid pointer 805b098! free(): invalid pointer 805b0b0! free(): invalid pointer 805b0c8! free(): invalid pointer 805b0e0! free(): invalid pointer 805b1e8! free(): invalid pointer 805b200! free(): invalid pointer 805b218! free(): invalid pointer 805b230! free(): invalid pointer 805b328! free(): invalid pointer 805b338! free(): invalid pointer 805b348! free(): invalid pointer 805b358! free(): invalid pointer 805b460! free(): invalid pointer 805b478! free(): invalid pointer 805b490! free(): invalid pointer 805b4a8! % MALLOC_CHECK_=2 ./xosview zsh: abort MALLOC_CHECK_=2 ./xosview -- Carey Evans <*> http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ kernel: Warning: possible SYN flooding. Sending cookies. kernel: validated probe(17f, 17f, 11557, 5010, -1645409555) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SCSI Host Adapter (+ Re: 2 CPU servers)
BusLogic supports free software and is well supported under Linux? Very well. Probably I'll have one customer of mine buy new machines very soon, they will buy what I say. (Maybe me too - going to buy a new harddisk - will replace my Adaptec 2940 with a BusLogic instead of a 2940UW or 3940W or anything else from Adaptec.) > > Even the "low-end" BusLogic cards are pretty good. They just lack an > > onboard > > CPU to process SCSI requests. But thanks to BusLogic, the SCSI manager code > > was GPL'd and is integrated into the Linux driver. There was mention of a specific model, Buslogic BT-948: is it such a "low-end" card or one with that CPU onboard? Better question: what do you think is a medium-high level BusLogic card with good price/performance ratio and - most important - well performing (reliable and fast) with Debian GNU/Linux? And what about 2 CPU usage? I read on this list recently that the kernel is getting mature for Linux with such motherboards: > Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 11:50:02 -0700 > From: Philippe Troin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: 2 CPU servers > > [snip] > 2.0.31-pre7 seems to be working ok (no deadlocks). > 2.0.30 or 2.0.29 with the deadlock-patch 6 works fine too. > [snip] Nicola Bernardelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Please use <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for messages from any kind of robot, such as mailing lists. From that address no autoresponse messages will return even when I'm not at home. --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Date in mail headers
Olaf Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > RFC822 would be the appropriate one here, and it does impose some > restrictions regarding what can and cannot be a date header: [snip] > So it certainly looks like Orn needs to fix his mailer. RFC2047 is also applicable - it's responsible to the mangled addresses you see sometimes if you MUA isn't aware of the proposed standard. However, I don't think it should be applied to Date: headers. Also, I note that RFC822 defines the day part of a date as only the English names, not something like "Mið" (however that turns out when TM and various MTA's get done with it). And the only valid non-numeric time zones are: UT GMT EST EDT CST CDT MST MDT PST PDT, or a single letter except J (not "BST"). RFC822 also seems to have a year-2000 bug. -- Carey Evans <*> http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ kernel: Warning: possible SYN flooding. Sending cookies. kernel: validated probe(17f, 17f, 11557, 5010, -1645409555) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Date in mail headers
On 4 Sep 1997, Carey Evans wrote:
> Olaf Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > RFC822 would be the appropriate one here, and it does impose some
> > restrictions regarding what can and cannot be a date header:
>
> [snip]
>
> > So it certainly looks like Orn needs to fix his mailer.
I agree. I think it's screwing up the interaction of our IMAP server and
Debian pine 3.96 - I keep getting "bogus date" errors.
> RFC2047 is also applicable - it's responsible to the mangled addresses
> you see sometimes if you MUA isn't aware of the proposed standard.
> However, I don't think it should be applied to Date: headers.
I agree. Dates are not "text", nor "phrase", and only these can be encoded.
> Also, I note that RFC822 defines the day part of a date as only the
> English names, not something like "Mið" (however that turns out when
> TM and various MTA's get done with it). And the only valid
> non-numeric time zones are: UT GMT EST EDT CST CDT MST MDT PST PDT, or
> a single letter except J (not "BST").
I wrote a DOS perl script a while back to make reading mailbox files
tolerable without an MUA (i.e. with less). It stripped out almost all the
headers, and to make up for the lack of an index to the messages, it
sorted them by Date:. Naturally it had to make sense of the timezones,
and these were the ones used I filtered from one week's contributions on
debian-user:
@timezonenames = ("+1200 NZST",
"+1000 EST",
"+0930 CST",
"+0900 JST",
"+0800 WST",
"+0400 MSD",
"+0200 SAT",
"+0200 CEST",
"+0100 MET", "+0200 MET DST",
"- GMT", "+ GMT", "+0100 BST",
"-0300 SAT",
"-0400 AST",
"-0500 EST", "-0400 EDT",
"-0600 CST", "-0500 CDT",
"-0700 MST", "-0600 MDT",
"-0800 PST", "-0700 PDT");
There were also some bizarre ones like SGT, but I couldn't add them to my
dataset unless I could work out what they were. Note that some, like EST
and CST are ambiguous (in the emails, not in the RFC), so I put the most
likely/legal ones last in my array to overwrite the others.
As far as I know, I think I'm guilty of using BST, and even bst, from
Debian and PC- pine, but only in parentheses. (For Lindsay, BST is
British Summer Time.)
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Re: Is PPP helping me?
Aldrin Leal wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hello! > > I was building a proxy system yesterday, and i had a strange trouble. > > I've installed Linux, set up everything. A Dream of a Intranet. I can > ping back and forth between the ether. > > Set up pppd. But, when firing up, it messes up my routes. I cannot > ping home anymore. I even can't ping everything on the net who passes over > the remote router. > > Any hints? Any faulty bug related to this? How can i fix this up > without losing my faith in Smart Linux Boxes? :] You must be passing the defaultroute option to pppd. This option may be specified on the pppd command line or in the /etc/ppp/options file. Remove this option. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Newbe question...
>Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:05:00 -0400
>From: "Swanson, Glenn, KB1GW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Newbe question...
>
>Greetings,
>
>I'm trying to install Debian (latest release) from floppies onto a '386
>system that has only 4 Meg of RAM. (I'm going to try using lmemroot.bin on
>floppy2.)
>
>1) Is this "too little" RAM for such a system?
Well.. I'll give you my personal history: other people might disagree.
It depends on a lot of factors: your RAM speed, disk speed, daemons you
want to have running, etc.
I have used Debian on a 4M '486 at work, a very slow machine (had to set
all BIOS settings to slowest). It is really not commendable;
Your programs will work OK but dselect becomes painfully slow; also,
first thing you MUST do when installing is creating and activating the
swap partition otherwise things might crash during installation, because
fsck needs lots of memory. If it is not done for you, you can do this by
escaping to a shell ("ash" shell IIRC) during installation,
and manually creating *and activating* the swappartition.
After the long and painful process of installation, recompile your kernel!
>
>2) Will I have a "usable" system if I can pull this off?
I use Linux on a '386dx40 at home since 1993 :-) But I noticed a big
performance increase after buying memory to 8M. I now have 8M at work and
at home and it works fine. Also X-windows and compilations. You just need
to plan compilations: if you want to compile large programs or the kernel,
go do something else and make it beep when ready :-)
In 4M memory, you will notice:
- big compilations bring the computer to its knees if you have anything
running; you need to kill almost all processes, and compile from your one
left console screen; on largish modules (>40k or so) the machine already
starts swapping, making things very slow. Kernel compilation takes HOURS.
Still, after you successfully installed Debian, first thing you should do
is install all necessary development tools and make your own custom kernel.
A couple of hundred K of kernel size make a big difference for a 4M system.
Compile as much as possible as modules; MSDOS fs, serial driver,
network drivers, and use kerneld to automatically load them (edit
/etc/modules and put "auto" there)
- X-windows programs and large executables take a long time (seconds) to
start up; once running it's OK (once non-used portions of the program are
swapped out)
>
>Apologies to the grizzled veterans on this reflector. :-)
Not necessary, it's a good question. Why spend all your money on a big computer
instead of saving it until your current one breaks down? (I'm dutch).
>
>Glenn in Connecticut
Frits in Leiden.
>
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Re: Red Hat's Xconfigurator for Debian?
On 4 Sep 1997, Paul Seelig wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Jerijian) writes: > > > I tried to install the XConfigurator and newt RPM packages from Red Hat > > onto Debian, using the alien program. I was able to start XConfigurator, > > but it was apparently looking for some Red Hat administrative files. Is > > there a version of XConfigurator for Debian? The default XF86Setup > > program does not work very well with my video card and monitor. > > > The Debian version of XConfigurator is your favourite editor! ;-) > > Why don't you simply try tweaking your /etc/X11/XF86Config manually in > combination with 'xvidtune'? Worked like a charm for me streamlining > my custom monitor modeline! :-) And don't forget to take a look at /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Modeline.gz for a good explanation of what those modelines really mean. Remco -- System Error, hit any user to continue -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
a problem
I would be very grateful if anyone could help me with a small problem concerning the boot disk of Debian/Linux (+all other Linux versions). Simply, version 2.0.29 boot disks crash on my Laptop shortly after it probes for the PCI devices. It says unrecognized PCI device and then crashes, saying "Unknown PCI device (1039:5107)." Version 1.2.3 boot disk almost works but apparently fails to recognize 3 PCI devices. It says: Unknown PCI device. PCI vendor id=1c. PCI dev id=5107 ---18 ---9660 ---119b ---1221 but recognizes other devices (Hitachi_dk225A-21, CD-211E ATAPI, ide0, ide1, mcd=0x300,10 floppy drive fd0 1.44M, FDC0 is a post-1991 82007, serial driver ver 4.11, PS/2 pointing dev.) My laptop is a Zitech Notebook (TFT, Pentium 166MHz, 32MB) with a 3COM 589D card that doesn't seem to be recognized at all. Not everything works on ver 1.2.3 (like the net, and I'm missing most of the useful stuff anyway). The proc/pci file says: bus 0dev 0 func 0 host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems 85C501 (rev 0) bus 0dev 1 func 0 ISA bridge : Silicon Integrated Systems 85C503 (rev 1) I would be most grateful if you had any suggestions/ideas... I would really like to boot the ver 2.0.30 CD anyway. Thank you. Martin Bees. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: libX11.a
> > I'm trying to compile a program and it's asking for libX11.a > What package contains this ?? $ dpkg -S libX11.a xslib: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.a (You can view the Contents file on the ftp site to search for packages not on your system). -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777ihttp://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: a problem
On Thu, Sep 04, 1997 at 02:32:27PM +, Martin Bees wrote: Hi Martin, > > I would be very grateful if anyone could help me with a > small problem concerning the boot disk of Debian/Linux > (+all other Linux versions). > Simply, version 2.0.29 boot disks crash on my Laptop > shortly after it probes for the PCI devices. > It says unrecognized PCI device and then crashes, > saying "Unknown PCI device (1039:5107)." > This one is the SiS Hot Docking Controller. The problem is well known meanwhile and was even reportet to the mail adresses mentioned in the pci.h file. So far there seems to be no solution. The notebooks are also referred as SAGER, AJP or other brands. There must be a solution and i'm regularly on search for further information but haven't found anything reasonable. Greetings, Steffen --- NTG Netzwerk und Telematic GmbH, Sitz Chemnitz. Kreisgericht Chemnitz/Stadt HRB 4217 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Michael Rotert - Steffen R. Mueller __ ___ _ _ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NTG Netzwerk und Telematic GmbH\ \/ / (_)_ __ | | __ fax : +49 2203 304614 Geschaeftsbereich Xlink \ /| | | '_ \| |/ / phone: +49 2203 304647 Theodor-Heuss-Str. 43 / \| | | | | | < RIPE : SM25-RIPE D-51149 Koeln, Germany /_/\_\_|_|_| |_|_|\_\ WWW.Xlink.net/~steffen INTERNET. MIT SICHERHEIT -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
can't locate module char-major-10
Hi, Every time I connect using pppd, I got this message in my console after get connected: pppd[257]: remote IP address 128.10.16.110 modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10 I can't find char-major-10 module in my kernel source. Is it safe to put 'alias char-major-10 off' in /etc/conf.modules? Thanks, -- *) Aria -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: can't locate module char-major-10
On Sep 4, Aria Prima Novianto wrote > Every time I connect using pppd, I got this message in my console > after get connected: > > pppd[257]: remote IP address 128.10.16.110 > modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10 > > I can't find char-major-10 module in my kernel source. Is it safe to put > 'alias char-major-10 off' in /etc/conf.modules? On Sep 4, Luis Francisco Gonzalez answered > char-major-10 is the mouse. If this appears right after the pppd is > started, I would guess that you have somehow set the mouse to be connected > to the serial port where in reality you have your modem. Check for links > in /dev or the configuration of gpm or something similar. char-major-10 is non-serial mice _and miscellaneous features_ (e.g. APM BIOS and real time clock). I'd suggest alias char-major-10-??? off ^^^ minor device number. Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
