X -- xinit dies but the server alone will run?

1998-02-19 Thread Asher Haig
Ok.. this problem seems kinda strange to me, maybe one of you guys can 
explain it.

I'm running (well -- trying) Accelerated X laptop edition. Those of you 
who know about X, please don't stop reading there -- I don't think the 
problem is AccelX specific. 

When I try to run startx, X begins to start, the server starts loading 
and I see the startup screen, and then it dies as if it'd been shut down. 
No error messages are created (see bottom of mail for log). I narrowed 
the problem down to what seems to be xinit -- when I do xinit (which 
startx does) on its own, the same thing happens.

The strange part comes in in that when I run the server on its own (X :0) 
and then do DISPLAY="localhost:0.0";afterstep& it works (albeit not 
completely).

Looking at xinit's man page, it appears to me that xinit is essentially 
doing the same thing I can do manually.

This problem starts when I upgraded to hamm. I upgraded all of the X 
packages and then reinstalled AccelX just to make sure -- still the same 
problem. 

Computer specifics: This is a Dell LM166mmx with a Neomagic 128xv+ card.

2.0.33 kernel on hamm.

Idiots at XIG won't give me support until hamm is an official release.

Would appreciate any help!

output from xinit/startx:

Xaccel 4.1 (build 4100,LX) Accelerated-X (tm) Display Server 
Copyright (c) 1993-97 by Xi Graphics, Inc.
All Rights Reserved
Unpublished -- Rights reserved under the Copyright Laws of the United 
States

User:  Asher Haig
Organisation:  Gossamer Designs
Serial Number: LS0LID-0676128532-86

Configuration file: /etc/Xaccel.ini
LINUX using /dev/tty7

PCI (#1/0, 8002)
NEOMAGIC,9: NM2093 (1024k @3fc0)
4: 132 100 100 32 105 16  -  628 600 600 28 601 4





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make-kpkg

1998-02-19 Thread Ralph Winslow
When, having brought in kernel-source for 2.0.32 on my bo system, I:

cd /usr/src/linux;make-kpkg

a lot of compiling happens (after I answer the config questions)
and the command

ld -m elf_i386 ... -o vmlinux

executes, but aborts with

/bin/ls: invalid tab size: text

can any kind soul give ma a clue?  I'm near the point of re-partitioning
and re-installing from the top, but I'd prefer to figure this out.
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Re: nis & shadow

1998-02-19 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gabriel Millerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyone have NIS running with shadow passwords? Or care to enlighten me on
>how I might get that working?

It only works on libc6 systems, because libc5 itself has no support
built-in for shadow password NIS maps. So you should upgrade to hamm
(and all utilities that use shadow passwords to libc6), install the
latest nis package and it should work.

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Re: X-Windows Question

1998-02-19 Thread Hubert Fauque
Fulgham, Brent/SCO wrote:
 
> I get the dread:
> _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno=111
> xinit: Connection refused (errno 111) unable to connect to X
> 
try
xhost 
in your .xsession

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kcore(2)

1998-02-19 Thread tony mollica
Thanks for the info.

Received about a dozen replies clearing this /proc/kcore 
thing up for me.

I've been doing ok using Linux so far, but I can't yet 
claim to understand it.


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Re: US Mutt in hamm

1998-02-19 Thread Mike Schmitz
On Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 03:13:07PM -0600, Jeff Noxon wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 01:42:12PM -0500, Tim Sailer wrote:
> > Bleh... the default behavior of mutt changed. Can anyone tell me how to
> > make the latest mutt *not* move the read email to $HOME/mbox on exit?
> > I can't find it in the docs. I'd like it to stay in the spool file.
> 
> add to .muttrc:
> 
> set mbox=/var/spool/mail/
> 
> There may be a more generic way to do it in /etc/Muttrc, but this
> is what I figured out after reading the docs in the last upgrade.
> If you find the generic way, please let me know.

Maybe:  set mbox=/var/spool/mail/$USER
> 
> I'm annoyed that the View-URL function has been moved into another
> program.  Is anyone going to package the View-URL thing?  IMHO, that
> was one of Mutt's greatest features.

I just wrote a script to check whether I was in X or not, and called the
appropriate browser
> 
> Also, the colorization is now gone.  I haven't had a chance to
> find out why.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jeff
> 
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HELP! Bash 2.01 for bo?

1998-02-19 Thread Wojtek Zabolotny
Hi!

I'm looking for bash 2.01 for bo (1.3.1). Preferrably the source version.
I'd like to be able to use the Netscape's helpers [Netscape uses
the ((command ); command) syntax which is treated by bash as corrupted
arithmetic expression], but I don't want to upgrade to hamm.

Thank you in advance
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nis & shadow

1998-02-19 Thread Gabriel Millerd
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Anyone have NIS running with shadow passwords? Or care to enlighten me on
how I might get that working?

TIA

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Re: Xspim

1998-02-19 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Brandon Mitchell wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Chi Wong wrote:
> 
> > Hi, just wondering if there is an Xspim package for Debian. XSpim is the
> > MIPS assembly emulator.
> 
> I don't see one, but recall someone saying they were working on it a while
> back (probably beginning of fall semester).  I just grabbed the source and
> compiled myself, no problems that I can recall.

My mistake:
/unstable/non-free/electronics/spim*

I was searching for xspim.

Brandon

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Re: Xspim

1998-02-19 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Chi Wong wrote:

> Hi, just wondering if there is an Xspim package for Debian. XSpim is the
> MIPS assembly emulator.

I don't see one, but recall someone saying they were working on it a while
back (probably beginning of fall semester).  I just grabbed the source and
compiled myself, no problems that I can recall.

Brandon

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SCSI Adaptec AHA 1520B/1522B ISA (iomega jaz jet) Trouble.

1998-02-19 Thread fealvar

Hi, at the bottom is my var/adm/messages file. 
The problem is this:
When i boot to get the adapter recognized i have to append
aha152x=0x340,11,7,1.
The card is recognized and also the jaz drive. But no partition is
reported and a "scsi: detected total." is displayed.
/proc reports both the adapter and the jaz drive but when i try to access
the jaz disk (/dev/sda) or partition (/dev/sda4) i get a "coud not open
device /dev/sda" or
something like that. And after that all the entries in /proc disapear.

Any suggestion would be wellcomed.

Chao.
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:13:49 -0300 (CLST)
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Feb 19 10:27:05 godzilla kernel: aha152x: processing commandline: ok 
Feb 19 10:27:05 godzilla kernel: aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 
controller(s) 
Feb 19 10:27:05 godzilla kernel: aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x340, IRQ=11, 
SCSI ID=7, reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=100, 
extended translation=disabled 
Feb 19 10:27:05 godzilla kernel: aha152x: trying software interrupt, ok. 
Feb 19 10:27:05 godzilla kernel: scsi0 : Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 
1.18 $ 
Feb 19 10:27:05 godzilla kernel: scsi : 1 host. 
Feb 19 10:27:05 godzilla kernel:   Vendor: iomegaModel: jaz 1GB   
Rev: J.83 
Feb 19 10:27:05 godzilla kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access  
ANSI SCSI revision: 02 
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Re: dhcpcd problems...

1998-02-19 Thread Brandon Mitchell
> Chris wrote:
> 
> > Also every time I shut the machine off it releases the IP lease, which
> > results in the lease only lasting for the period in which the machine is
> > turned on.  Why does it need to release the IP lease?  Surely it should
> > hold onto it so that it can use the same IP on the next boot (until the
> > lease really expires).  Can I (and should I?) stop it doing this?

This will happen if the network you are on is running low on ip addresses.
Basically when you shutdown, I believe the server knows.  Then, it will
try to give out IP's that haven't been used before to new users or users
who's ip was taken.  Then it falls back to giving out any ip address that
is free.  When you boot up, you ask for the ip, and if it's available, you
should get it.  I'd suggest contacting the network admin (or service
provider) and ask if they have enough ip's that you should have a stable
ip address.

Brandon

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ipx_configure: socket: Invalid argument ?

1998-02-19 Thread Luke Kendall
Hi

I'm trying out Debian 1.3.1 because I've recently moved from
Yggdrasil to RedHat 4.2, and wasn't completely happy with RH.

Overall, the installation went well, though the dselect user
interface seems almost absurd, it's so bad.  (How does one find
out about Deity, and the plans for it?) 

I'm slowly trying to learn about network administration in
my home :-), with my old 486 and my new 586 and ethernet.
I've installed Debian on the 486.

I now have an NE2000 card configured correctly, detected during
boot up, and the ne kernel module installed.  But, after booting,
dmesg reports a couple of these errors:
ipx_configure: socket: Invalid argument
which is also what I get if I later run ipx_configure manually.

These errors I think explain why pinging the machine itself
results in the error: `Network is unreachable'.  (I assume it's
because these errors stop /etc/init.d/network from being run.)
If I run "/etc/init.d/network start" manually, this problem
goes away. (* See below)
(I must say, this Debian idea is one of several good ideas.)

But, the socket problem remains.  I'm a bit lost about what
to do next.  A couple of oddities:  if I run modprobe -c
the output seems to have 2 contradictions:

1)  alias eth0 ne.o io=0x280 irq=11
...
alias eth0 off

which I read as saying ethernet is on and off; and

2)  alias net-fp-5 off
alias net-fp-4 off
alias net-fp-3 off
alias net-fp-3 off
alias net-fp-4 ipx
alias net-fp-5 appletalk
alias net-fp-5 off

Anyway, having fought my way past dselect (a worse UI is
hard to imagine), I expect it's quite possible something
got screwed up.

Any suggestions?  Maybe I should scrub the disc and re-install,
having a new attempt at the $#@&*^! deselect command.

A local Debian user (Terry Dawson) suggested that it might be
because the sysvinit or netbase packages weren't installed. These
seemed okay, but I installed them both again anyway.  dpkg -s
reports this:

genius# dpkg -s sysvinit; dpkg -s netbase
Package: sysvinit
Essential: yes
Status: install ok installed
Priority: required
Section: base
Installed-Size: 172
Maintainer: Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 2.71-2
Replaces: last, bsdutils (<= 2.0-2)
Pre-Depends: libc5 (>= 5.4.0-0)
Conflicts: last
Conffiles:
 /etc/init.d/boot 6043411a35205ed214b8376d1703c543
 /etc/init.d/functions 0c0917923fade2b31aeba7ccff507b9d
 /etc/init.d/halt 68bc1f783330489603af45f7b2607220
 /etc/init.d/rc 60e77848ea246f436d6e15ff4c8aa6b0
 /etc/init.d/reboot 8a35f8a6172ce83901ec8959cfa00ded
 /etc/init.d/single 79ab06e4cb357207e0a2e0e12281478f
 /etc/init.d/skeleton a50a15ee6450c0d567054052af8d7bfc
Description: System-V like init.
 Init is the first program to run after your system is booted, and
 continues to run as process number 1 until your system halts. Init's
 job is to start other programs that are essential to the operation of
 your system. All processes are descended from init. For more information,
 see the manual page init(8).

Package: netbase
Status: install ok installed
Priority: standard
Section: net
Installed-Size: 520
Maintainer: Peter Tobias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 2.13-1
Replaces: netstd (<< 2.00)
Depends: libc5 (>= 5.4.0-0)
Recommends: netstd (>= 2.00)
Conffiles:
 /etc/init.d/netbase a2424d2c4eb454931ba68369ccdb6c7b
 /etc/cron.daily/netbase 5e0d3b20c37975fb27998c904c99828f
 /etc/gateways a7503b386fe803313210e201fa02e184
 /etc/protocols ffeb999437e9e69e03aa32991dfa487f
 /etc/services 0b7203dfa86920e7508d452dc9f93fe9
 /etc/hosts.allow 00c464628a18c520ff9b5aa47368dfb6
 /etc/hosts.deny 3c8c271d216386391a00f5376d353f5a
 /etc/rpc a5d6ea89a98449d83998b6b717215a03
Description: Basic TCP/IP networking binaries
 In order to make use of the network you need a few tools to
 configure it. This package contains all the necessary tools
 to configure the networking interfaces, to setup the routing
 tables and to start other services using the inetd server.

Is the `Conflicts: last' for sysvinit a worry?  What does it
mean?  I couldn't find anything via the info documentation.
(`info' is another program with an appalling UI.)

Hopefully yours,

luke

PS:
  (*) I just tried this manual step today, and it failed.  Because
  the ethernet module wasn't installed.  I had to manually
insmod 8390.o
insmod ne.o io=0x280 irq=11
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Re: US Mutt in hamm

1998-02-19 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 01:42:12PM -0500, Tim Sailer wrote:
> Bleh... the default behavior of mutt changed. Can anyone tell me how to
> make the latest mutt *not* move the read email to $HOME/mbox on exit?
> I can't find it in the docs. I'd like it to stay in the spool file.

add to .muttrc:

set mbox=/var/spool/mail/

There may be a more generic way to do it in /etc/Muttrc, but this
is what I figured out after reading the docs in the last upgrade.
If you find the generic way, please let me know.

I'm annoyed that the View-URL function has been moved into another
program.  Is anyone going to package the View-URL thing?  IMHO, that
was one of Mutt's greatest features.

Also, the colorization is now gone.  I haven't had a chance to
find out why.

Thanks,

Jeff


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Re: What package sets up /etc/init.d/network?

1998-02-19 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>What package sets up /etc/init.d/network ?

Only a new installation configures it in the setup.

>After a new install on a laptop (for which I might have replied that there
>was no network for some configuration question), I'm left without even a
>loopback configured.  I could hack it in myself, but...

That's what you're supposed to do.

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mutt crashes

1998-02-19 Thread Obi

Hi,

I recently switched from sendmail to smail. Since then, I have problem with
my mailers :-(. Mutt crashes when it is time to send a message, wheter is a
reply or a new message, while comp (I use nmh) complains that 
my email address is not legal (actually I believe is smail to complain).

The problem is that my machine has 3 name: one is its own name, one is related 
to my network card and one when I connect from home via modem (I have a 
laptop). And the name smail is refusing is the "real" name of the host. 
And smail should know it since I put it into the config as hostname ...

thanks for any help,
graziano


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Missing Mouse Drivers

1998-02-19 Thread Brian White
( The following was filed as a bug, but doesn't really belong there since
  it isn't specific to any package (except possibly kernel-image).  Thus,
  I'm forwarding it to debian-user to see if anybody can help this person. )

Dear Folks,

We have just loaded the most recent available version of Linux which I
use for running the Genetics Computer Group (GCG) of Wisconsin
programs.  Everything seems to work fine except that my mouse doesn't
work.  I have a Logitech Trackball T-CA1-  SN: LU519100659.  Logitech
does not support Linux, so I am stuck.  On plugging in a (borrowed)
Genius Hi Mouseworks mouse, this works immediately.  Is there a separate
driver for my trackball or do I have to purchase a new mouse?  I am new
to this operating system!  Any help is highly appreciated.  

Yours sincerely,

John Lowenstein



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Installation writing to Hard Drive error

1998-02-19 Thread Brian White
( This was originally a bug report.  I'm forwarding it to debian-user. )

Package:  Debian Installation
Version:  1.3

When I try to install Debian GNU/Linux to my machine, every time Debian
tries to write to my hard drive, I get an error.  For example, when I am
following the installation program, and I try to partition a hard disk,
before I even get into the cfdisk program (after selecting which drive to
partition), I get the following error:

hda:  read_intr:  status=0X59  { DriveReady  SeekComplete  DataRequest 
Error }
   error=0X10   { SectorIdNotFound }  CHS
0/0/53 , sector 52

And then after repeating that same message about six or seven times, it
says this:

ide0:  reset:  success

and then I get the first error six or seven more times, and then the
partitioning program launches.  Now, I can continue with the installation
(partition my disk, etc), but whenever it tried to load files from the
floppies to my hard drive, it gives me that first error again.  I even
got so far as to loading the fifth base disk, but then I get a "kernel
panic" message and it completely shut down.  Is this a program error or
something wrong with my machine?  I'm running a Compaq Deskpro 486/25 22
megs RAM and a 650 meg hard drive.  I can run DOS 6.2 and Windows and any
other DOS-supported program fine and I've never experienced a similar
error before.

I am using Debian 1.3, kernel version 2.0.29

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X-Windows Question

1998-02-19 Thread Fulgham, Brent/SCO
I'm pretty embarassed to be asking this question, since I'm sure there's
a simple resolution.  But, here goes:

I have recently tried to follow a better security model, by creating a
user account for myself on my Linux box, instead of doing everything as
root.  In doing so, I have somehow managed to change a setting somewhere
such that I can no longer get X to boot from my user account.  I can
start an X-windows session as root, no problem.

I get the dread:
_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno=111
xinit: Connection refused (errno 111) unable to connect to X  

I have tried setting my "/home/bfulgham/.xserverrc" to start my X
server, both as /usr/X11R6/bin/X and /etc/X11/X, and
/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_S3V" and I have set my DISPLAY=:0.0, I have verified
that my X is linked to XF86_S3V and I have skimmed the man pages, but
can't figure out why it works for root, but not for my user account.

I have verified that my /etc/X11/Xsession files allow console (and
finally, all-access), but to no avail.

Anyone have an idea?  I'm sure it's pretty easy...

-Brent


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Re: debian 2

1998-02-19 Thread Wiria A Kusuma
hi Bill.., I'll try my best to explain, I had no problem installing both bo
and hamm, several machaine running them,  couple of weeks ago I downloaded
base2_0.tgz, drv1440.bin and resc1440.bin time stamped 2/1/98 
   ^
from ftp1.us.debian.org/debian/Incoming and trying to test the new
installation, but it just freezes/stopped after choosing the monitor type,
both color and no color won't do me any good, the only "Pnp" in my box is my
graphic card which is et6100, but I had no problem with this card in my other
machines, infact this specific box had a hamm installed in hda, I did try it
on my other computers and the problem exist.

Earlier today, I visited ftp1.us.debian again, but those files were removed
from the Incoming...

thanks
kusuma

Bill Leach wrote:
> 
> Please provide a little more information.  Are currently running Linux?
> What distribution, version?  What sort of machine do you have (in
> particular is it a laptop/notebook)?  Do you have any PnP stuff in the
> machine?
> 
> Otherwise, the direct answer to your question is Yes, at least a couple
> of hundred people are running Debian Hamm and currently a large number
> of people are busy installing bo & upgrading as well as doing 'new'
> installations of Hamm for testing.


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xdm solution

1998-02-19 Thread Christopher Jason Morrone

Thanks to all of the people who suggested that this line:

:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X

was missing from the end of my /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers file.  That was
indeed the problem.  Is there a bug report out on this?


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Re: SCSI: queue status

1998-02-19 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
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> 
> I've been getting the following during the bootup for a while now, 
> just got around to ask what this actually means.

> aha152x: ignoring spurious interrupt, nothing to do
>
> Is this a status/warning/error/panic message?

According to the source this message means, that one of the SCSI
devices tells the host adapter: "I have data for you" but the host
adapter didn't expect such a message as all of its own queues are
empty.

How often does this message occur?  Only at startup or sometimes while
working with the system?

If only at startup I think this message can be accepted as warning
message, something strange happens but there is no reason to be
alarmed.

BTW: Better do some test backups with comparing and restoring to
 ensure your tape is working correctly.  This is independent
 of this message.

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Re: Installing packages larger than 1.44MB via floppy disks

1998-02-19 Thread Bill Leach
I just 'poked around' looking for something that would describe the
command syntax for rawwrite.exe and nothing that I could find even
suggested that the program could 'skip' such as dd will do... if that is
true then of course it would be useless for what was wanted.

dd can copy from a rawwrite floppy but as I mention, I am not certain if
dd is available during initial installation.


> > Maybe someone can confirm this for certain but isn't this exactly the
> > sort of thing that "rawwrite.exe" does?  If that is the case, then you
> > can copy the files "in specified sized pieces" and then use either
> > rawwrite on the target machine under DOS or dd under Linux (if dd is in
> > the base system).
> 
> I don't think that this is really what rawwrite is ment for. It provides a
> method to circumvent DOS' filesystem interface. That way you can write
> something (ie. a linux kernel) to the bootsector part of a floppy.
> If you write a .deb to diskette in "raw" format, how do you plan to get it
> off later?

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Re: biff in bo

1998-02-19 Thread Tim Sailer
John Spence wrote:
> 
> Does biff in bo work
> coz it biffin doesn't beep
> an if biff in bo is broke
> then biff in bo I will delete
> 
> I've tried biff in bo with 'y'
> I've tried biff in bo with '-y'
> no biffin output does it show
> so poor wee biff is gonna go.

Heh.. thanks for the laugh.. I needed it today. But, yes, bo's biff is busted.

Tim

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US Mutt in hamm

1998-02-19 Thread Tim Sailer
Bleh... the default behavior of mutt changed. Can anyone tell me how to
make the latest mutt *not* move the read email to $HOME/mbox on exit?
I can't find it in the docs. I'd like it to stay in the spool file.

Tim

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Re: Question - Hamm, Mgetty, PPP, wtmp - Arrgh!

1998-02-19 Thread Tim Sailer
David Wright wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Jeff Noxon wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 04:33:58AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >  On Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 01:06:59PM -0600, Jeff Noxon wrote:
> > > >> I have three dial-in modems on my hamm box.  They are all identical
> > > >> USR Couriers AFIAK, and their configuration *appears* to be the same.
> > > >> But one port always shows connect speed in wtmp, and the others do not:
> > > >
> > The modem settings are identical.  The modem firmware revisions are
> > identical.  The mgetty configuration lines are the same.  The inittab
> > lines are the same.  This is really bizarre.  It used to work with bo,
> > and one of my mgetty upgrades killed it a long time back.  I asked back
> > then, and nobody offered to help.
> 
> So when you shuffle the modems around on the ports, does the same port 
> show the speed, or the same modem? At least that should eliminate the 
> possibility of differing modems.

We see this on our modems when the init is changed. There is a command
to tell the modem to report the serial port speed or the connection
speed. I can look it up tonight..

ACtually, I just looked at the USR manual online. You have to have 
ATX7 and make sure the dip switch 7 is set the same on all the modems.

Tim

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What package sets up /etc/init.d/network?

1998-02-19 Thread Peter S Galbraith

What package sets up /etc/init.d/network ?

After a new install on a laptop (for which I might have replied that there
was no network for some configuration question), I'm left without even a
loopback configured.  I could hack it in myself, but...

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ipmasq problems

1998-02-19 Thread Ian Watkins
I've just recompiled the kernel (2.0.33) to include ipmasq support and I now 
can't connect to the Internet via my PPP dial-up connection :(

If I ping www.debian.org then I get unknown host name and if I ping a x.x.x.x 
address I get "Operation not permitted"

I have installed ipmasq once before on a similar machine (2.0.33 kernel) and I 
didn't get these problems then

I believe the same message is showing when the NFS stuff is being loaded on 
boot-up.

I suspect I've done something daft, but I've done various things and checked it 
all against the mini-IP-Masq howto but I haven't been able to sort out what

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Re: debian 2

1998-02-19 Thread Bill Leach
Please provide a little more information.  Are currently running Linux? 
What distribution, version?  What sort of machine do you have (in
particular is it a laptop/notebook)?  Do you have any PnP stuff in the
machine?

Otherwise, the direct answer to your question is Yes, at least a couple
of hundred people are running Debian Hamm and currently a large number
of people are busy installing bo & upgrading as well as doing 'new'
installations of Hamm for testing.


> Hello all, had anyone succeded to install the new debian 2
> installation? I tried the new debian 2 installation with no luck, it
> just hang/freeze right after selecting monitor type, both color and
> no color monitor freeze, can anyone suggest me the correct way to do
> it? I had d/l the resc1440.bin several times, writing it to floppies
> with dd and rawrite, but nothing works, before it frooze a "hdc media
> change" pops up, where hdc is my cdrom..., tried putting cd into it
> still don't help me..
> 
> thanks
> kusuma

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RE: Linux on top of win95

1998-02-19 Thread Hogland, Thomas E.
Think I posted this before - I searched and found Linux_load95 (link -
http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/utils/dos/linux_load95.zip is the file
location I found). Uses loadlin and a small batch file to load your
Linux kernel. Has pretty good directions with it, too... I have a FAT32
partition (C:), another one (D:) and a Linux partition with a swapfile
in it... Works great - I couldn't use LILO to set up a boot menu because
the Linux is the last 1.5gb of a 6.5gb drive and LILO doesn't like to
boot from a cylinder >1024 (apparently - I'm not trying it!) 

> --
> From: Sen Nagata[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 9:58 PM
> To:   David Wright
> Cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: Linux on top of win95
> 
> at some point around Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:40:53 + (GMT)
> David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned:
> 
> > I don't see where UMSDOS comes into this. 
> 
> i was giving a reference for an alternative way to get linux running
> alongside w95 -- using loadlin.  i should probably have worded my
> message
> better :-)  (in particular, the page has a few links at the top which
> i found
> handy)
> 
> my set up is something like:
> 
>   dos partition
>   linux partition
>   linux swap partition
>   dos partition (umsdos)
> 
> i am using the umsdos parition as a 'flexible' zone for storing stuff
> for either os.  this has allowed me to 'survive' on about 1.3 GB of
> disk space -- but alas, even that is running out so, i'm about to
> upgrade :-)
> 
> does anyone know whether there is something that can be used under w95
> or dos that will allow access to linux partitions?
> 
> -sen
> 
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fips and fat32

1998-02-19 Thread Behan Webster
Anyone know where to find the latest fips.exe that can handle a fat32
partition?

Thanks,

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biff in bo

1998-02-19 Thread John Spence
Does biff in bo work
coz it biffin doesn't beep
an if biff in bo is broke
then biff in bo I will delete

I've tried biff in bo with 'y'
I've tried biff in bo with '-y'
no biffin output does it show
so poor wee biff is gonna go.

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RE: Frozen Mouse

1998-02-19 Thread David Wright
On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Kristian Strickland wrote:

>   Are you running gpm?  When I first installed debian, I installed gpm
> because it's amazingly handy.  However I soon found that gpm and X on my 
> machine didn't mesh.  Solution?  Since I only use the console for upgrades, I
> removed gpm.  If you plan to go back and forth between console and X, you 
> might
> just kill it before starting X.

Why not just add -R to the gpm configuration and use /dev/gpmdata and 
MouseSystems in XF86Config; then you can have both.

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Re: help me understand timezones

1998-02-19 Thread David Wright
While the world no longer sets its clocks to GMT but UTC, GMT is still a 
local timezone in the sense that EST is. Only its universality is obsolete.

On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Bill Leach wrote:

> You were told correctly...
> 
> GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) is the same thing as UTC (Universal
> Coordinated Time--UTC is actually the acronym as it is in French).  So
> the term GMT is obsolete but the meaning is unchanged.
> 
> > A related timezone question:
> > 
> > What is the difference between GMT and UTC ?
> > I was told that GMT is obsolete, and that UTC is now considered as its 
> > successor.
> 

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Re: removing user from group; vigr -s errors; group policies

1998-02-19 Thread David Wright
On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Tommi Virtanen wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 01:57:38PM +0100, Oskar Liljeblad wrote:
> 
> > oskar:~# vigr -s
> > vigr: /bin/ae: Bad address
> > vigr: /etc/gshadow is unchanged
> > vigr: /bin/ae: No such file or directory
> > vigr: /etc/gshadow is unchanged
> > -
> > Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong? (vigr without the -s switch
> > works fine.)
> 
>   This looks weird. My hamm version does not seem to do this.
>   What versions of passwd and ae do you have installed?
>   You might want to file a bug report, or send the file from
>   # strace -ff -o /tmp/vigr.trace vigr -s
>   in private mail to me.

I think this is #12184.

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Re: Question - Hamm, Mgetty, PPP, wtmp - Arrgh!

1998-02-19 Thread David Wright
On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Jeff Noxon wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 04:33:58AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >  On Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 01:06:59PM -0600, Jeff Noxon wrote:
> > >> I have three dial-in modems on my hamm box.  They are all identical
> > >> USR Couriers AFIAK, and their configuration *appears* to be the same.
> > >> But one port always shows connect speed in wtmp, and the others do not:
> > >
> The modem settings are identical.  The modem firmware revisions are
> identical.  The mgetty configuration lines are the same.  The inittab
> lines are the same.  This is really bizarre.  It used to work with bo,
> and one of my mgetty upgrades killed it a long time back.  I asked back
> then, and nobody offered to help.

So when you shuffle the modems around on the ports, does the same port 
show the speed, or the same modem? At least that should eliminate the 
possibility of differing modems.

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Re: My trials upgrading to hamm/Bad bash 2.01-5 for bo

1998-02-19 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote:

> Well, I went and used the autoup script for upgrading bo -> hamm.
> I ran into some problems, which, I suspect, were caused by my
> custom-compiled bash 2.01 package.  As I know that some people on this 
> list used that package, since I made it publicly available, I'm
> putting this warning out to people:
> If you are using my bash 2.01-5 package (which I compiled for bo),
> then BEFORE you use the auto-up script, edit the line that says
> DPKG_ARGS and remove the '-E' option.  If you fail to do this, bad
> things will happen.  (Another option is to edit /var/lib/dpkg/status
> and tell dpkg that you have earlier versions of bash and libreadline2
> than it thinks you do).
> 
> If you go ahead and use the autoup script despite my warning, the
> postinst of libreadlineg2 will core dump, and you won't be able to use 
> bash anymore.  I have a web page describing how I got out of that
> situation (http://www.math.jhu.edu/~martind/bash/), but I highly
> recommend not getting into that situation in the first place.

Yes, I have unfortunately verified this!  Oh, well, I felt that I needed
to reinstall anyway.  At least bash was working well enough that I was
able to copy a bunch of configuration stuff to floppies (not as much as I
should have, unfortunately, but it helped a lot). 

> 
> As an aside, I found it extremely useful in recovering to make ash my
> sh - init can't even finish booting the machine completely if bash
> breaks in the upgrade process.  I wonder if this hint (installing ash, 
> moving it to /bin and making it your sh, and then making root's shell
> /bin/sh instead of /bin/bash) should be included in the libc5-libc6 
> upgrade howto, under something like "for the paranoid".

I wish I would have thought of that! :^)

Bob

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Re: Problems with gs-aladdin_5.10-3

1998-02-19 Thread Wojtek Zabolotny
Sorry for unnecessary fuss.
I've just solved the problem. It was necessary to untar the
gs-aladdin_5.10.orig.tar.gz manually, cut the ".orig" extension from the 
directory name, create the debian and contrib subdirectories, apply
the diff maually, set exec permissions for debian/rules and
debian/addentry, and finally build the package.
Now I have a working gs-aladdin_5.10-3 in bo :-).

Wojtek Zabolotny
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On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote:

>   Hi!
> 
> I've tried to install the recompiled version of gs-aladdin_5.10-3.
> I've downloaded the necessary files (gs-aladdin_5.10-3.diff.gz,
> gs-aladdin_5.10.orig.tar.gz, gs-aladdin_5.10-3.dsc) from ftp.de.debian.org,
> but when i ran the dpkg-source -x gs-aladdin_5.10-3.dsc
> I received the error message:
> 
> dpkg-source: error: diff patches file
> (gs-aladdin-5.10.orig/contrib/hpdj-2.3/NEWS) whose directory does not
> appear in tarfile
> 
>  I ve tried to find the older version gs-aladdin_5.10-2,
> and I successfully installed the sources, but compilation 
> failed because of lack of file: gdevln03.c
> 
> How can I compile the gs-aladdin_5.10-3 (or 2) package?
> 
>   Thank you in advance
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Xspim

1998-02-19 Thread Chi Wong
Hi, just wondering if there is an Xspim package for Debian. XSpim is the
MIPS assembly emulator.


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Re: Kernel compilation

1998-02-19 Thread Rob Browning
Jan Vroonhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is fakeroot building the norm in hamm?

It is for me.  Except that when you're working on a normal package, I
tend to do:

  $ fakeroot debian/rules binary

during development, and then

  $ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot

when I'm finishing up.

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Re: Kernel compilation

1998-02-19 Thread Rob Browning
Jan Vroonhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> iii) Doing it this way forces you to be root to do a kernel compile.
> 
> I know this probably more of a problem with the packaging system
> itself. However it would be very nice if this could be changed. There
> should be no need to be root to compile a kernel, only when installing 
> it.

That's what the fakeroot package is for.

  $ fakeroot make-kpkg --revision foo.1.0 kernel_image

will do what you want.  No root required.

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Re: Installing packages larger than 1.44MB via floppy disks

1998-02-19 Thread Joost Kooij
On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Bill Leach wrote:

> Maybe someone can confirm this for certain but isn't this exactly the
> sort of thing that "rawwrite.exe" does?  If that is the case, then you
> can copy the files "in specified sized pieces" and then use either
> rawwrite on the target machine under DOS or dd under Linux (if dd is in
> the base system).

I don't think that this is really what rawwrite is ment for. It provides a
method to circumvent DOS' filesystem interface. That way you can write
something (ie. a linux kernel) to the bootsector part of a floppy.
If you write a .deb to diskette in "raw" format, how do you plan to get it
off later?
 
> > I have installed Debian Linux on a PC that does not have a modem and
> > is not on a LAN,  using floppy disks I created on my PC with a modem. 
> > How do I install packages via floppy disks that are larger than
> > 1.44MB?  Is there a DOS utility that I can use to split these files
> > across several disks?  Thanks.

Go to www.digital.altavista.com and search for "sploiner" It does exactly
what you want and also provides some nice redundancy options - saves the
day when you put netscape.tar.gz on a gazillion 720Kb floppies and one
turns out to be slightly defective when you come home.

Cheers,


Joost


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netscape 4 aweful, now 3 won't reinstall

1998-02-19 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

When netscape 3 crashed a couple of times, i figured I'd try 4.  Which turned 
out to lack the two things that I've disliked in other browsers:  turning 
autoloading of images on/off is a preference rather than a menu item, and the 
alt-number to go back a page or two is gone.  Not to mentions some senseless 
defaults--it tried to turn my default file to a file, and added spaces in the 
process.

So I removed it, but now I can't reinstall 3:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/hawk# dpkg -i /home/hawk/netscape3_3.01-11.deb 
(Reading database ... 23545 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace netscape3 3.01-11 (using .../hawk/netscape3_3.01-11.deb) 
...
Unpacking replacement netscape3 ...
Setting up netscape3 (3.01-11) ...
- extracting Netscape from archive in /tmp
Update-menus: waiting for dpkg to finish (forking to background)
Update-menus: (checking /var/lib/dpkg/lock)
ERROR: cannot strip netscape executable -- No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing netscape3 (--install):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 netscape3

help!



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Re: Serial Direct Connect

1998-02-19 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Just run a getty on the tty. Edit /etc/inittab and copy the line for tty1
and replace with the correct device name for your serial port. Then as root
do 'kill -HUP 1'.

Greg Green wrote:

> Hello all:
>
> Can any one give me advice on how to set up one of my serial ports for a
> direct terminal connection?
> All I need is a terminal session at 9600 - 8 - n - 1 for this, and it
> will not talk to a modem.  I will not be talking DTE to DTE, it will be
> DCE to DTE via a serial data connection.  I looked on the list of
> HOW-TO's but the closest thing I saw was a SERIAL-PROGRAMMING HOW-TO.  I
> think what I need is the SERIAL-HOW-TO.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg Green
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Re: modconf & whiptail

1998-02-19 Thread Wiria A Kusuma
Paul McDermott wrote:

> whiptail from the incoming.  My question is this how do I get to the
> incoming directory?  Does anyone have any ideas in this particular
> situation.
> Paul
> 
have you tried ftp://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian/Incoming if it is not there I
had attached the one I had d/l .

good luck
kusuma

whiptail_0.21-4_i386.deb
Description: Binary data


gpc linking problem

1998-02-19 Thread Deniz Dogan
Hi,

I installed GNU Pascal Compiler(gpc) and the Runtime Libraries
(libgpc2) from bo. (gpc_2.0-3.deb and libgpc2_2.0-3.deb)
And the other packages gpc depends on already installed
(libc5, gcc (>= 2.7.2.1-2), gcc (<< 2.7.2.2)).

When I try to compile a test program from /usr/doc/gpc/examples/test
(I also installed gpc-doc package) getting this error:

$gpc hello.pas -o hello
ld: cannot open -lgpc: No such file or directory

How can I avoid this problem?
Thanks.
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Re: modconf & whiptail

1998-02-19 Thread James Troup
Paul McDermott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello everyone, I am trying to install modconf but it depends on
> whiptail.  Whiptail is not a package.  I installed newt0.20 (gave me
> /usr/bin/whiptail) but that did not help.  There has been discussion
> abot this topic but no one really knows what to do about this
> situation.  There was a possible responce to this and that was to
> get the latest modconf & whiptail from the incoming.  My question is
> this how do I get to the incoming directory?  Does anyone have any
> ideas in this particular situation.

Whiptail was installed into the archive yesterday; if it's not on your
local mirror yet, it will be soon.

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Re: xdm?

1998-02-19 Thread Corey Miller

Take a look in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. Check to make sure that
xbase-configure actually put the config line in there, and if it did,
remove the #.

Corey

On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Christopher Jason Morrone wrote:

> 
> I'd like to use xdm on my box.  I've tried editing /etx/X11/config to
> change 
> 
> no-start-xdm
> no-xdm-start-server
> 
> into
> 
> start-xdm
> xdm-start-server
> 
> abd then I rebooted.  It said "starting xdm" but there's no X login
> screen.  Whats up?  (I tried putting xdm-start-server before start-xdm
> too...)
> 
> I'm running a hamm system...kernel 2.0.33...SVGA server.  Any ideas?

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HAMM/project/experimental: error processing linuxconf_1.9r22-2_i386.deb

1998-02-19 Thread Christophe Broult

The subject says it all.

Chris


Setting up dpkg-ftp (1.5.1) ...
Unpacking linuxconf (from linuxconf_1.9r22-2_i386.deb) ...
Setting up linuxconf (1.9r22-2) ...
Cannot create /home/masoto/debian/linuxconf/debian/test/etc/hosts: No such file 
or directory
dpkg: error processing linuxconf_1.9r22-2_i386.deb (--install):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2


C locales and 'history'

1998-02-19 Thread Corey Miller
I just did a fresh install of Debian 1.3.1, and have run across a
few problems.

First, I get the following two warnings (that appear to be
related).  This one comes up when I try to install some new packages
(assumably the ones whose install programs use perl scripts). 

perl: warning: Setting locale failed for the categories:
LC_CTYPE LC_COLLATE 
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LC_ALL = (unset),
LC_CTYPE = (unset),
LC_COLLATE = (unset),
LANG = "us"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the "C" locale.
 
This second warning shows up whenever I start emacs. 

Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged


My other problem is with the 'history' command. For some reason,
it will only scroll up to the last command issued. And, when i type in
'history', it doesn't display anything. Incidentally, my prompt shows the
number of the current command in the history list, and it does 
get incremented.

Corey

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[Q] cp /etc/smb.conf /dev/lp0 -- does not work

1998-02-19 Thread Vladislav Papayan x285
Hello,
after I upgraded to hamm (on Dec 19, 1997) and now latest kernel
(2.1.86) -- I always have to hit Feed button to get anything out of the
printer.  The same printer (Okidata laser 710e) works fine for NT.
Did something get changed in the settings of /dev/lp0 or may be
parport device driver that it does not send form feed characters now?


Thanks in advance,
Vladislav


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Re: Serial Direct Connect

1998-02-19 Thread aqy6633
> Can any one give me advice on how to set up one of my serial ports for a
> direct terminal connection?
> All I need is a terminal session at 9600 - 8 - n - 1 for this, and it
> will not talk to a modem.  I will not be talking DTE to DTE, it will be
> DCE to DTE via a serial data connection.  I looked on the list of
> HOW-TO's but the closest thing I saw was a SERIAL-PROGRAMMING HOW-TO.  I
> think what I need is the SERIAL-HOW-TO.
> Any help would be appreciated.

Look into your /etc/inittab, it should contain examples on how to put
getty on a direct serial line. I myself use mgetty for this (to have 
flexibility to use this connection for both direct login frm the dumb
terminal and ppp connection. Tne line I put into /etc/inittab:
s1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -r -D ttyS1

/etc/mgetty/mgetty.config contains (in addition to other stuff) the
following:
port ttyS1
  direct y
  speed 19200
  toggle-dtr n

and the last line in /etc/mgetty/login.config used in case of dumb
terminal:
*   -   -   /bin/login @ 

Alex Y.
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Problems with gs-aladdin_5.10-3

1998-02-19 Thread Wojciech Zabolotny
  Hi!

I've tried to install the recompiled version of gs-aladdin_5.10-3.
I've downloaded the necessary files (gs-aladdin_5.10-3.diff.gz,
gs-aladdin_5.10.orig.tar.gz, gs-aladdin_5.10-3.dsc) from ftp.de.debian.org,
but when i ran the dpkg-source -x gs-aladdin_5.10-3.dsc
I received the error message:

dpkg-source: error: diff patches file
(gs-aladdin-5.10.orig/contrib/hpdj-2.3/NEWS) whose directory does not
appear in tarfile

 I ve tried to find the older version gs-aladdin_5.10-2,
and I successfully installed the sources, but compilation 
failed because of lack of file: gdevln03.c

How can I compile the gs-aladdin_5.10-3 (or 2) package?

Thank you in advance
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Re: dhcpcd problems...

1998-02-19 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
When you look at the log do you see that your dhcp client is requesting an IP
address that it isn't being granted? It's probably trying to get its old IP
and the server won't give it.

I haven't read the RFC but I'll bet that releasing the lease on shutdown is
compliant behavior. What would be the point of having a pool of IP addresses
which could be handed out to any host if each client insisted on holding on
to its address? In a lan environment this might (but not if people sometimes
bring in laptops, etc.) be ok but for a situation like an ISP it would be
impossible.

Chris wrote:

> I am having a problem with my dhcp client.
>
> Basically the machine taking extremely long time to obtain an IP address.
> The machine is sending a DHCPREQUEST allright, and this is being answered
> by the server with the DHCPOFFER.  However the sends several more
> requests before it starts to work.
>
> Also every time I shut the machine off it releases the IP lease, which
> results in the lease only lasting for the period in which the machine is
> turned on.  Why does it need to release the IP lease?  Surely it should
> hold onto it so that it can use the same IP on the next boot (until the
> lease really expires).  Can I (and should I?) stop it doing this?
>
> I would appreciate any information.  Thanks all,
>
> Chris
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Re: kcore

1998-02-19 Thread Bill Leach
Close (probably even closer than it 'sounded' to me)...
/dev is a real directory and is 'normal' in every way.  However, the
files in /dev are usually rather special in the sense that I think you
are referring.

/proc OTOH is not really a 'real' directory.  It exists in the kernel,
gets mounted and naturally has much the same sort of data structures as
do directories that actually are on disk.

> I have heard it said that unix works entirely on files.  It always
> baffled me to hear that, being a hardware engineer, and writing
> mostly in low level assemblers.  Now I think I understand what what
> meant, and that all tasks are created as a 'file' and are acted on
> accordingly, hence the /dev directory and the /proc directory.
> Am I correct in assuming this ?


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Re: help me understand timezones

1998-02-19 Thread Bill Leach
You were told correctly...

GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) is the same thing as UTC (Universal
Coordinated Time--UTC is actually the acronym as it is in French).  So
the term GMT is obsolete but the meaning is unchanged.

> A related timezone question:
> 
> What is the difference between GMT and UTC ?
> I was told that GMT is obsolete, and that UTC is now considered as its 
> successor.

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Re: bbs for debian?

1998-02-19 Thread Bill Leach
Hamish;

It seems to me that there are several good bbses that should work under
Linux.  Though this is from somewhat distant memory two were RBBS and
CBBS and then there are a couple that were written for other
multitasking OSes by ham radio operators.  These latter might be a bit
more difficult to compile except that I don't recall that any of them
used anything other than a console interface for the control op.  UCSD
was one source but I have not looked there in at least a year.


> Good luck, and let me know if you find anything. I've never been able
> to find a BBS program for Linux that looks anything like any DOS
> BBS program I would run. They all assume you only wish to chat.

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Re: SCSI: queue status

1998-02-19 Thread Bill Leach
Take this with sufficient 'salt' as I have not done ANY Linux SCSI stuff
on PCs and have not even looked at the Linux code but while that seems a
bit verbose, I don't see anything wrong with what you are getting.

> I've been getting the following during the bootup for a while now, 
> just got around to ask what this actually means.
> - 
> aha152x: processing commandline: ok
> aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s)

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Re: Installing packages larger than 1.44MB via floppy disks

1998-02-19 Thread Bill Leach
Maybe someone can confirm this for certain but isn't this exactly the
sort of thing that "rawwrite.exe" does?  If that is the case, then you
can copy the files "in specified sized pieces" and then use either
rawwrite on the target machine under DOS or dd under Linux (if dd is in
the base system).


> I have installed Debian Linux on a PC that does not have a modem and
> is not on a LAN,  using floppy disks I created on my PC with a modem. 
> How do I install packages via floppy disks that are larger than
> 1.44MB?  Is there a DOS utility that I can use to split these files
> across several disks?  Thanks.

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Re: removing user from group; vigr -s errors; group policies

1998-02-19 Thread Tommi Virtanen
On Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 01:57:38PM +0100, Oskar Liljeblad wrote:
> Is there a simple way of removing a user from a specific group (not knowing
> what other groups the user is in), or is there a debian package that will do

gpasswd -d user group

$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/gpasswd 
passwd: /usr/bin/gpasswd

> this? If I modify the /etc/group file directly with vigr, do I have to
> modify the shadowed group file as well? 'vigr -s' gives me these errors:

Yes.

> oskar:~# vigr -s
> vigr: /bin/ae: Bad address
> vigr: /etc/gshadow is unchanged
> vigr: /bin/ae: No such file or directory
> vigr: /etc/gshadow is unchanged
> -
> Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong? (vigr without the -s switch
> works fine.)

This looks weird. My hamm version does not seem to do this.
What versions of passwd and ae do you have installed?
You might want to file a bug report, or send the file from
# strace -ff -o /tmp/vigr.trace vigr -s
in private mail to me.

> What are the purposes of all the default groups? Is there a document
> describing Debian's group policy?

Some are traditional (daemon,bin,sys), others are used - the
name should tell you a lot, and find / -group unknowngroup
the rest. I am not aware of any specific document.
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modconf & whiptail

1998-02-19 Thread Paul McDermott
Hello everyone, I am trying to install modconf but it depends on whiptail.
Whiptail is not a package.  I installed newt0.20 (gave me
/usr/bin/whiptail) but that did not help.  There has been discussion abot
this topic but no one really knows what to do about this situation.  There
was a possible responce to this and that was to get the latest modconf &
whiptail from the incoming.  My question is this how do I get to the
incoming directory?  Does anyone have any ideas in this particular
situation.
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Re: Question - Hamm, Mgetty, PPP, wtmp - Arrgh!

1998-02-19 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 04:33:58AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >  On Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 01:06:59PM -0600, Jeff Noxon wrote:
> >> I have three dial-in modems on my hamm box.  They are all identical
> >> USR Couriers AFIAK, and their configuration *appears* to be the same.
> >> But one port always shows connect speed in wtmp, and the others do not:
> >
> > Are you sure that they are both set to report the same connect string?
> > Usually modems allow varying amounts of detail to be reported
> > on the "CONNECT" line, which is where mgetty gets this data from.
> > I don't know what the appropriate commands are for a USR Courier
> > (look at S95 and the W command for Rockwells).
> >
> >> Back when I ran bo, I got connect speeds for all three modems.  My hamm
> >> packages are all 100% up-to-date.
> >
> > Any chance the modems are configured differently now, either by
> > the profile stored in the modem or due to commands in /etc/mgetty/*.conf?
> >
> > hamish
> 
> Mabey some other process (perhaps one that dials out from the system) has 
> changed some of the modem settings ?

I wish, but no.

The modem settings are identical.  The modem firmware revisions are
identical.  The mgetty configuration lines are the same.  The inittab
lines are the same.  This is really bizarre.  It used to work with bo,
and one of my mgetty upgrades killed it a long time back.  I asked back
then, and nobody offered to help.

Thanks,

Jeff


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RE: Frozen Mouse

1998-02-19 Thread Kristian Strickland
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:47:48 -0800 (PST)
> From: Stuart Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Frozen mouse in X-Windows
> 
> Hi. I have a(nother) problem. As implied by the subject line, my mouse
> is completely frozen in X-Windows, rendering it very close to useless...
> 
> Also, though less major, I can't work out how to set permisions for my
> non-root access. It would be nice to be able to dial out to PPP and to
> play games that need to write to disk. Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanks :)
 
Are you running gpm?  When I first installed debian, I installed gpm
because it's amazingly handy.  However I soon found that gpm and X on my 
machine didn't mesh.  Solution?  Since I only use the console for upgrades, I
removed gpm.  If you plan to go back and forth between console and X, you might
just kill it before starting X.

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Re: HDDs & Linux (please reply to mansoft@maptel.es)

1998-02-19 Thread Wiria A Kusuma
Alex Maneu Victoria wrote:
> 
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> How should I partition my disks? (let's suppose that there's nothing
> installed). How should I install Linux, after all? Should I create a
> partition for one disk, and then on the other disk another partition for
> windows and the rest for linux? If so, how could Windows work (I mean,
> not to work, but, at leat, to boot :)
Yes.., Supposed you have not got anything on your HD, just install windows on
the first HD, and the 500g on the second hd will be detected as drive d:, then
you can install linux on the second halves of hdb, during the installation,
you will be asked to allocate swap and root partitions for linux.

Actually you can boot linux with loadlin which will be executed after your
windows booted, but I personally prefer LILO. Depends on your choice..

good luck 
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Serial Direct Connect

1998-02-19 Thread Greg Green
Hello all:

Can any one give me advice on how to set up one of my serial ports for a
direct terminal connection?
All I need is a terminal session at 9600 - 8 - n - 1 for this, and it
will not talk to a modem.  I will not be talking DTE to DTE, it will be
DCE to DTE via a serial data connection.  I looked on the list of
HOW-TO's but the closest thing I saw was a SERIAL-PROGRAMMING HOW-TO.  I
think what I need is the SERIAL-HOW-TO.
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: Debian M68K on HP 300/400?

1998-02-19 Thread James Troup
"Stan Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does Debian M68K suppor HP 300/400 serries hardware?

I don't know if Linux/m68k even supports them; You might find more
information at

http://www.linux-m68k.org/> 

If it's supported by Linux/m68k, Debian/m68k binaries will work.

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Re: Login string FUBAR; what package does this?

1998-02-19 Thread Lindsay Allen

On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 01:13:52PM -0600, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
> > Ah yes. Welcome to the magic of telnetd/login and getty/login. The first
> > login: prompt is supplied by your getty/telnetd. When you type in your
> > login and hit enter, the getty/telnetd execs /bin/login, passing the
> > username you typed in. If you enter an incorrect login, control does not
> > pass back to your getty/telnetd but instead /bin/login spits out another
> > login: prompt. Pretty clever no? (No.) This is rather annoying but this way
> > of "logging people in" is quite ingrained in unix.
> > 
> > Anyway, I believe /bin/login gets the prompt from /etc/issue. Perhaps a bug
> > should be filed regarding '\?' substitution.
> 
> login doesn't seem to try to show issue again here.
> The getty is mingetty.

I managed to reproduce the problem here.  My /etc/login.defs showed:-
#ISSUE_FILE  /etc/issue
 
and the result was:-

Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 (unstable)  elm tty6

elm login: allen
Password:
Login incorrect

elm login:

elm login:
Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 (unstable)  elm tty6

elm login:


But when I change login.defs to show:-
ISSUE_FILE  /etc/issue

the result is:-

Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 (unstable)  elm tty7

elm login: allem
Password:
Login incorrect
Debian GNU/\s 2.0 (unstable)  \n \l


elm login:
Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 (unstable)  elm tty7

elm login:


So it's bin/login not knowing about the escape codes that is the problem.
I guess the answer is to point ISSUE_FILE to a different file with no
escapes.  Or just comment it out.


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Re: Kernel compilation

1998-02-19 Thread Santiago Vila
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On 19 Feb 1998, Jan Vroonhof wrote:

> Is fakeroot building the norm in hamm?

No. The norm is just "being root" :-)
However, we tend to consider a bug when a package may not be compiled
fakeroot, because it means that the "make install" target is trying to
touch something outside the debian/tmp directory, and this should not
normally happen.

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Re: Kernel compilation

1998-02-19 Thread Jan Vroonhof
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The checks are needed, because you have to be able to do a chown to
> root

I still do not like checks like these, I'd rather have it bomb out at
the chown. But that is just side-issue.

> But if you use fakeroot, make-kpkg will really believe you are root
> :-)

Nothing better than a little white lie :-)

Jan

Is fakeroot building the norm in hamm?


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removing user from group; vigr -s errors; group policies

1998-02-19 Thread Oskar Liljeblad
I have recently installed Debian 1.3.1 on my computer. After searching
the web for info, there are still some questions unanswered:

Is there a simple way of removing a user from a specific group (not knowing
what other groups the user is in), or is there a debian package that will do
this? If I modify the /etc/group file directly with vigr, do I have to
modify the shadowed group file as well? 'vigr -s' gives me these errors:
-
oskar:~# vigr -s
vigr: /bin/ae: Bad address
vigr: /etc/gshadow is unchanged
vigr: /bin/ae: No such file or directory
vigr: /etc/gshadow is unchanged
-
Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong? (vigr without the -s switch
works fine.)

What are the purposes of all the default groups? Is there a document
describing Debian's group policy?

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Re: Kernel compilation

1998-02-19 Thread Santiago Vila
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On 19 Feb 1998, Jan Vroonhof wrote:

> Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > You may use fakeroot, so iii) is not really a limitation.
> 
> Aha..good. However I recall that make-kpkg puts explicit checks for
> root. Those should be removed then.

The checks are needed, because you have to be able to do a chown to root
But if you use fakeroot, make-kpkg will really believe you are root :-)
So this is no problem.

The only problem I see is "make modules_install"...

[ The issue here would be then whether /lib/modules is hardwired in the
kernel Makefile or it is possible to use an alternate directory for that ].

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Re: Kernel compilation

1998-02-19 Thread Jan Vroonhof
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> You may use fakeroot, so iii) is not really a limitation.
> 

Aha..good. However I recall that make-kpkg puts explicit checks for
root. Those should be removed then.

Jan


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Re: NCPFS seems broken on 2.1 kernels...

1998-02-19 Thread Arto Astala
this discussion was recently mirrored by smbfs on debian-devel
result, IIRC, was to have scripts that dynamically branch on kernel
version

> [...]
> 
> Also, packages ncpfs and ncpfsx have lots of
>binaries, not just the ncpmount and ncpumount binaries, so this will add
>more complexity to these stub scripts.
> 
> I didn't realize how many there were.  However, I think this can still
> work.  Try this:
> 
>   All the 2.0.x versions get installed as -2.0.x
>   All the 2.1.x versions get installed as -2.1.x
>   The generic stubs are installed as , which are all
> symlinked to `nwstub' (or whatever name).  `nwstub' is the following
> script, or an adaptation of the same idea:

please, if somebody multiboots between different kernels this
has a fair change of breaking, as also happens on kernel upgrades

> #! /bin/sh
> echo $0-`uname -r | cut -b 1-3`.x $*
> 
>If someone comes with a better solution than having two packages I am
>willing to consider implementing it.
> 
>Some people suggested that I use alternatives. That looks like a good idea
>for packages with a small number of binaries like packages smbfs and smbfsx
>but for packages like ncpfs and ncpfsx the number of alternatives that
>would need to be set up is quite large. So, in this case, I preferred to
>have ncpfs and ncpfsx conflict with each other so only one can be installed
>at any time.
> 
> I agree that alternatives would be clumsy for this.  If the sysadmin
> wanted to switch, he'd have to relink an unreasonable number of files.

same drawback as plain symlinks

t.aa


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Re: INN NEWS Server.

1998-02-19 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Johan Berglund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I can use the server with a lot of different mail readers, there is no
>problem with the transmission of articles.
>The problem is, I don´t see the "From:" line in the newsreader.
>First I was convinced that the problem was client-related but then
>the "other guys" (win guys) told me that theirs clients (free agent)
>gets the "From:" line when they connect to other USENET NEWS
>servers.

Strange, as the From: line is mandatory and it is impossible for a
message not to have one. And there is ofcourse no way to switch that off.

>I´ve also heard that it might be a "variable" problem in the server.

AFAIK it's a client misconfiguration. Check the raw article on the
news server, to see if there's a From: header (in /var/spool/news/.)

>By the way, is there any capability to protect the INN server with password? 

Ofcourse, /etc/news/nnrp.access

Mike.
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RE: Kernel doesn't boot!!

1998-02-19 Thread Gerardo Lamastra
Thanks for your quick answer...
I will test BIOS version and all the stuff about the hardware. I have also
another machine with Award BIOS, I will also test if there is some
difference about version numbers. 
I'll do it as fast as I can!!

Regards...

Gerardo
 


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Re: xdm?

1998-02-19 Thread tko
Christopher Jason Morrone writes:
> 
> 
> I'd like to use xdm on my box.  I've tried editing /etx/X11/config to
> change 
> 
> no-start-xdm
> no-xdm-start-server
> 
> into
> 
> start-xdm
> xdm-start-server
> 
> abd then I rebooted.  It said "starting xdm" but there's no X login
> screen.  Whats up?  (I tried putting xdm-start-server before start-xdm
> too...)
> 
> I'm running a hamm system...kernel 2.0.33...SVGA server.  Any ideas?

Have you check your Xserver by using "startx"? Sounds like you may have a
Xserver configuration problem.

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INN NEWS Server.

1998-02-19 Thread Johan Berglund
Hello.

I have installed a Debian 1.3.1 system om a server out on
the internet. The server acts as a http and mail server running
apache and smail on a Pentium 100.

I also have installed the INN package and the package maintainers
configuration is good enough for me because I want to run it all by 
it self with no connection to the USENET.
I have a problem that I can´t find a solution for, I´ve checked the
docs and FAQs I could find on the net but none could solve my problem.

The problem is:
I can use the server with a lot of different mail readers, there is no
problem with the transmission of articles.
The problem is, I don´t see the "From:" line in the newsreader.
First I was convinced that the problem was client-related but then
the "other guys" (win guys) told me that theirs clients (free agent)
gets the "From:" line when they connect to other USENET NEWS
servers.

I´ve also heard that it might be a "variable" problem in the server.

Can someone help us?
By the way, is there any capability to protect the INN server with password? 


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Mount Point Problem

1998-02-19 Thread AUBORD Alain
I have a huge quantity of mount point to manage (~200) and I get the message 
"mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
pegase:/export/opt/SUNWdxlib,or too many mounted file systems"

I would know where it is possible to increase the number of mount point ?



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debian 2

1998-02-19 Thread Wiria A Kusuma
Hello all, had anyone succeded to install the new debian 2 installation?
I tried the new debian 2 installation with no luck, it just hang/freeze right
after selecting monitor type, both color and no color monitor freeze, can
anyone suggest me the correct way to do it? I had d/l the resc1440.bin several
times, writing it to floppies with dd and rawrite, but nothing works, before
it frooze a "hdc media change" pops up, where hdc is my cdrom..., tried
putting cd into it still don't help me..

thanks
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Re: kcore

1998-02-19 Thread Wojciech Zabolotny



On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, tony mollica wrote:

> I've found a file in /proc named kcore, with a size of about 67
> megabytes.
> Can someone tell me what this is and where it is generated from?
> 
It is just a computers RAM mapped into the filesystem.

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HAMM: Setting up modutils (2.1.85-1) ...

1998-02-19 Thread Christophe Broult

Hi,

I've just installed some new packages and for the following one, I
think a message like ``Press  to continue'' is missing after
the important note.

Chris


Unpacking replacement modutils ...
Setting up modutils (2.1.85-1) ...
Starting kerneld, version 2.1.85 (pid 6944)

IMPORTANT NOTES
===
1) Support for request-route has been dropped from modutils. If you
used this feature please switch to diald.

2) Debian GNU/Linux modutils now supports persistant module storage.
Please read the readme /usr/doc/modutils/README.Debian.gz before using
it though!






RE: Smail uucp file

1998-02-19 Thread George Bonser
The more I think about this the more I wonder exactly what you lost.

The spool files of mail that are waiting to go to the uucp user are in
/var/spool/uucp/

Smail keeps all of its configuration information in /etc/smail uucp keeps its
configuration in /etc/uucp

There are no files having to do with uucp and smail that are kept in /var/mail

This is, if you are using Debian Linux.


On 19-Feb-98 Bill Belon wrote:
> Greetings!  I have a major problem.  I'm the co-owner of a small ISP and 
> we're using Smail.  Our uccp file was accidentally deleted from the 
> /var/mail directory.  We have customers who are very unhappy right now.  
> Can you tell me the lines that the file contains?  Or possibly give me a 
> copy of such a file?  From there I can change the variables as necessary 
> to suit our system.  Please respond as soon as possible.  This is a 
> great emergency for us.
> 
> Thank you for your consideration.
> 
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RE: Smail uucp file

1998-02-19 Thread George Bonser
As far as I know, smail keeps no uucp file in /var/mail.


On 19-Feb-98 Bill Belon wrote:
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> we're using Smail.  Our uccp file was accidentally deleted from the 
> /var/mail directory.  We have customers who are very unhappy right now.  
> Can you tell me the lines that the file contains?  Or possibly give me a 
> copy of such a file?  From there I can change the variables as necessary 
> to suit our system.  Please respond as soon as possible.  This is a 
> great emergency for us.
> 
> Thank you for your consideration.
> 
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RE: dpkg --help | less

1998-02-19 Thread Ian Watkins
> > And if I'm using bash? Sorry I can't try it out as I'm not in Linux at 
> > the moment.
> on my system dpkg --help | less works fine. The person who had trouble
> with it said it did not work for him/her. Now the problem would be because
> their dpkg --help writes to STDERR and not STDOUT. In which case & will
> trap them both in csh's.

Right. It was me who had the problem :) It seems it is considered a bug, as 
help should normally got to STDOUT.

> Bash on the otherhand uses numbers. From bash man pages STDERR is 2 but I
> have no idea how to use it.

I am a relative newbie, so haven't looked at other shells, so now I know what & 
does in csh :) 2 does the same in bash.

Regards,

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Re: kcore

1998-02-19 Thread Carey Evans
"Ian Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have heard it said that unix works entirely on files.  It always baffled
> me to hear that, being a hardware engineer, and writing mostly in low level
> assemblers.  Now I think I understand what what meant, and that all tasks
> are created as a 'file' and are acted on accordingly, hence the /dev
> directory and the /proc directory.  Am I correct in assuming this ?

This is a pretty good summary, although it varies depending on the
Unix.  Most Unixes don't do /proc like Linux does, if at all.  OTOH,
some Unixes actually have devices in /dev for the networking.

/proc is more like an easy to use view of the internal structures in
the kernel.  /prox/sys is where most of what you can fiddle with in
the /proc filesystem is.

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Re: Xemacs configuration question

1998-02-19 Thread Carey Evans
Dave Mallery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> where do i tell Xemacs about my mail and news server node names??

For Gnus reading news, (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.server")).

The easiest way to get mail working from a server is to download it
with fetchmail.

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Re: Linux on top of win95

1998-02-19 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
>I believe that you really should have a swap partion

This is not true.  To begin with, you don't need swap space if you have
enough memory.  For linux, swap is just an extra bunch of (slow) memory
that can be used if need be.  If it is not there, and enough RAM is
available, that is not a problem.  Secondly, you can do with a swap file
instead of partition.  To use a swap file of 8 MB, you would do
something like ( from the mkswap man page)

  # dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile bs=1024 count=8192
  # mkswap swapfile 8192
  # sync
  # swapon swapfile

You can put an item like

/swapfile   noneswapsw  0   0

in /etc/fstab to activate the swap file every time the system boots
(assuming swapfile is in / ).  However it is true that a swap partition
is definitively faster than a file.

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Re: Recomended Debian CD source ?

1998-02-19 Thread Jens Ritter
Stan Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   What;s the best place to buy a curretn Debian CD? The people I was
>   buying from seeem to have gone away?

if you've got access to a cdwriter and a good internet connection go
d/l the official set from the debian mirrors.

But these are somewhat not "current". The new debian 2.0 CD's are to
come in 3-4 month. 

HTH,

Jens
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Re: kcore

1998-02-19 Thread Oliver Elphick
"Ian Perry" wrote:
  >I have heard it said that unix works entirely on files.  It always baffled
  >me to hear that, being a hardware engineer, and writing mostly in low level
  >assemblers.  Now I think I understand what what meant, and that all tasks
  >are created as a 'file' and are acted on accordingly, hence the /dev
  >directory and the /proc directory.  Am I correct in assuming this ?

Yes.  All kinds of things are presented as files, even though they aren't
really.  (Even `tasks': every live process has a directory under /proc
which contains `files' with information about the running process.)

Originally it was just devices like printers, disks, tapes and memory.
With the /proc filesystem, you also have things like lists of interrupts
and network parameters.  All these things are presented as files, so that
you can use routines like open() on them.

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xdm?

1998-02-19 Thread Christopher Jason Morrone

I'd like to use xdm on my box.  I've tried editing /etx/X11/config to
change 

no-start-xdm
no-xdm-start-server

into

start-xdm
xdm-start-server

abd then I rebooted.  It said "starting xdm" but there's no X login
screen.  Whats up?  (I tried putting xdm-start-server before start-xdm
too...)

I'm running a hamm system...kernel 2.0.33...SVGA server.  Any ideas?


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Smail uucp file

1998-02-19 Thread Bill Belon
Greetings!  I have a major problem.  I'm the co-owner of a small ISP and 
we're using Smail.  Our uccp file was accidentally deleted from the 
/var/mail directory.  We have customers who are very unhappy right now.  
Can you tell me the lines that the file contains?  Or possibly give me a 
copy of such a file?  From there I can change the variables as necessary 
to suit our system.  Please respond as soon as possible.  This is a 
great emergency for us.

Thank you for your consideration.

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Re: Linux on top of win95

1998-02-19 Thread Sen Nagata
at some point around Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:40:53 + (GMT)
David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned:

> I don't see where UMSDOS comes into this. 

i was giving a reference for an alternative way to get linux running
alongside w95 -- using loadlin.  i should probably have worded my message
better :-)  (in particular, the page has a few links at the top which i found
handy)

my set up is something like:

  dos partition
  linux partition
  linux swap partition
  dos partition (umsdos)

i am using the umsdos parition as a 'flexible' zone for storing stuff
for either os.  this has allowed me to 'survive' on about 1.3 GB of
disk space -- but alas, even that is running out so, i'm about to
upgrade :-)

does anyone know whether there is something that can be used under w95
or dos that will allow access to linux partitions?

-sen


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Re: dpkg --help | less

1998-02-19 Thread Adam Klein
On Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 05:46:00AM +, Ian Watkins wrote:
> DM> >   IW> instance if I do a dpkg --help | less then less doesn't seem
> DM> into
> DM> try
> DM>  dpkg --help |& less
> 
> DM>  for tcsh
> 
> And if I'm using bash? Sorry I can't try it out as I'm not in Linux at 
> the moment.

dpkg --help 2>&1 | less

Adam Klein


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dpkg --help | less

1998-02-19 Thread Ian Watkins
DM> >   IW> instance if I do a dpkg --help | less then less doesn't seem
DM> into
DM> try
DM>  dpkg --help |& less

DM>  for tcsh

And if I'm using bash? Sorry I can't try it out as I'm not in Linux at 
the moment.

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Re: bbs for debian?

1998-02-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 05:13:16PM +0100, Pere Camps wrote:
>   Does anybody know of a good piece of BBS software for debian?
>   I'm looking for something like Remote Access for DOS.

Good luck, and let me know if you find anything. I've never been able
to find a BBS program for Linux that looks anything like any DOS
BBS program I would run. They all assume you only wish to chat.

Ugly solution: I'm running my RA 2.50/Bink 2.60/IMAIL 1.75/Squish 1.10
system under dosemu on Debian 1.3. With a fast enough processor
(Cyrix P166+) it goes okay. Lost serial interrupts is a big problem;
the dosemu serial code's author recommends BNU instead of X00
and that seems to help a lot. I also put my serial speed back to 38400,
I used to use 57600.

I just unplugged the hard drive from my DOS BBS machine and plugged
it into my Linux box, mounted all the drives, set up dosemu
to map them in as DOS drives and off it goes. Eventually I repartitioned
it so that all the DOS BBS files actually live on an ext2fs partition,
for speed & space saving reasons.


Hamish
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Re: kcore

1998-02-19 Thread Ian Perry
I have heard it said that unix works entirely on files.  It always baffled
me to hear that, being a hardware engineer, and writing mostly in low level
assemblers.  Now I think I understand what what meant, and that all tasks
are created as a 'file' and are acted on accordingly, hence the /dev
directory and the /proc directory.  Am I correct in assuming this ?


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> To: tony mollica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: debian_user_list 
> Subject: Re: kcore
> Date: Thursday, 19 February 1998 15:25
> 
> kcore == kernel core memory.  It should be the amount of mem you have or
> close.  It is not a real file, nothing in /proc is.
> 
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Re: lpr remote printing

1998-02-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 08:28:52PM -0800, Adam Klein wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 03:16:44PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 11:08:28AM -0800, Adam Klein wrote:
> > > I'm the maintainer of the lpr package, and there is a bug report
> > > saying that remote printing doesn't work.  Has anyone else had this
> > > problem?
> > 
> Actually, this is a different bug, #18295.  It was reported against
> the latest version 5.9-23.  The reason I wanted reports from other
> people is that I can't test the remote printing features of lpr
> myself.  However, I wouldn't mind some help with the DOS problem.

It seems the reported bug is that you can't print from 5.9-23.
I just upgraded my lpr here to 5.9-23; the server is still running
5.9-20.2 (it's a bo machione). lpr still prints fine. 
Perhaps it's a configuration error.

Some excerpts from my printcap below; this is a bit messy because
I'm using a script to do bounce queues, so that I can apply local
filters.

lp|lj|lj5l|HP LaserJet 5L:\
:lp=/dev/null:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lj5l:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/usr/local/bin/printall:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\

rawlj|raw laserjet on silly:\
:lp=/dev/null:rm=silly.rising.com.au:rp=lj:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:

And /usr/local/bin/printall says

#!/bin/sh
/usr/sbin/ljet4l-filter $* | /usr/bin/lpr -Prawlj


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Re: lpr remote printing

1998-02-19 Thread Adam Klein
On Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 03:16:44PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 11:08:28AM -0800, Adam Klein wrote:
> > I'm the maintainer of the lpr package, and there is a bug report
> > saying that remote printing doesn't work.  Has anyone else had this
> > problem?
> 
> Well, it works just fine here from 5.9-20.2 (client) to 5.9-20 (server),
> and from 5.9-21 to 5.9-20 too. But the bug report talks about printing
> from DOS software. But

Actually, this is a different bug, #18295.  It was reported against
the latest version 5.9-23.  The reason I wanted reports from other
people is that I can't test the remote printing features of lpr
myself.  However, I wouldn't mind some help with the DOS problem.

> > Warning: no daemon present
>   ^^
> > Rank   Owner  Job  Files Total Size
> > 1stnobody 209  C:\TMP\~lpt1D12.TMP   839 bytes
> 
> This could be a telltale sign. Perhaps the original reporter had
> other lpr problems and it just seemed to be a remote printing
> problem?

lpq will give this warning message when it has inadequate permissions.

> I think one of my machines has an lpr installed on DOS, I will check
> it out (but it's not the same implementation mentioned in the bug report).

Thanks,
Adam Klein


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Re: kcore

1998-02-19 Thread Shaleh
kcore == kernel core memory.  It should be the amount of mem you have or
close.  It is not a real file, nothing in /proc is.


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Re: lpr remote printing

1998-02-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 11:08:28AM -0800, Adam Klein wrote:
> I'm the maintainer of the lpr package, and there is a bug report
> saying that remote printing doesn't work.  Has anyone else had this
> problem?

Well, it works just fine here from 5.9-20.2 (client) to 5.9-20 (server),
and from 5.9-21 to 5.9-20 too. But the bug report talks about printing
from DOS software. But

> Warning: no daemon present
  ^^
> Rank   Owner  Job  Files Total Size
> 1stnobody 209  C:\TMP\~lpt1D12.TMP   839 bytes

This could be a telltale sign. Perhaps the original reporter had
other lpr problems and it just seemed to be a remote printing
problem?

I think one of my machines has an lpr installed on DOS, I will check
it out (but it's not the same implementation mentioned in the bug report).

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