Microsoft Intellimouse

1998-02-28 Thread Brian
Hi,

   I just got debian linux up, got everything configured (including X),
but I have one problem.  I have a microsoft intellimouse which has a
PS/2 connector.  When I run xf86config and pick microsoft intellimouse
from the list, my mouse immediately goes to the top left corner when I
run X, but if I pick PS/2 from the list, my mouse works fine.
Unfortunately, that means I don't get the use of the roller/third
button.  Anyone know how I can get my intellimouse working?  In case
this helps, I use /dev/psaux as the mouse device.  That works with both
X and gpm.


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Re: expand for UNIX

1998-02-28 Thread shaul
 Is there any program where I can extract files from that MS-DOS
 expand/compress format under UNIX?

Isn't unzip from the utils section what you are looking for ? 


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Re: mgetty voice/fax/data

1998-02-28 Thread shaul
 Where is the mgetty home page?  The site I found in the info file did not
 exist.  Or do you know the mgetty mailing list address?

The following is copied from the info file:

   Also, I have created a mgetty mailing list, for discussion of problems and 
suggestions. You can subscribe by sending a request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(forwarded to Crynwr.com for precessing) and you can send articles to the list 
by sending them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please make sure that the mail address you 
send me is valid - I'm quite sick of getting all list mails bounced back to me 
because one of the addresses doesn't work.

   The mailing list is currently gated bidirectionally into the newsgroup 
de.alt.comm.mgetty. In spite of being in the German language hierarchy, the 
language in the group is English. Posts in German should
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My experience with the mailing list is that it has very low traffic. When I 
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Re: expand for UNIX

1998-02-28 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella
shaul  writes:

 Is there any program where I can extract files from that MS-DOS
 expand/compress format under UNIX?

 Isn't unzip from the utils section what you are looking for ? 

No. AFAIK the expand/compress progs store data in a zip-like for
(called MS_ZIP in the M$'s site). This must be a proprietary slightly
modified zip...

Well, it's never too much to try (I did before I asked):

$ unzip wc.tx_ 
Archive:  wc.tx_
  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
  a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
  latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
  the last disk(s) of this archive.
unzip:  can't find zipfile directory in one of wc.tx_ or
wc.tx_.zip, and can't find wc.tx_.ZIP, period.

Or even:

$ zcat wc.tx_

zcat: wc.tx_: not in gzip format

I suspect this is a simple zip entry, without the file table info
(i.e. a zipstream, no file information), much like the gzip
style...

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Re: dselect nfs question

1998-02-28 Thread Bill N

I've seen the same problem. I assume it is a problem with dselect because if
you mount the nfs filesystem by hand, choose mounted as the access method,
and point to the mount point, dselect works OK. It appears that dselect does
not try to mount the filesystem because of what it perceives as an RPC version
error.

-Bill N

Nathan E Norman writes:
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote:

: Nathan E Norman wrote:
:  
:  This question is overly vague; sorry ...
:  
:  I started playing with nfs today (nothing like a little excitement on a
:  friday).  I've got a 9 gig partition on a BSDI box, which holds my ftp
:  mirror of debian, among other things.  I want to be able to do local
:  installs via nfs.  So I fought my way through BSDI nfs config, and I can
:  now mount the filesystem on most any server I choose.  So far, so good.
:  
:  However, when I choose the 'nfs' method from dselect, it says my BSDI
:  box isn't an nfs server.  I think this has something to do with RPC.  My
:  guess is that Linux and BSDI are using different versions of RPC.
: 
: Nope.. that shouldn't metter.. nfs is nfs.

Ok ... but dselect gives me an RPC version error (I looked into it a
little further)

:  I'm sure if I read the right fm I can figure this out, but I'm a bit
:  lost here - I've never delved into nfs or RPC at all :/  Any pointers as
:  to which fm's to r?
: 
: Just curious, if this is a virgin install, did you choose to install
: the nfs module? You need nfs support into kernel to be able to nfs
: mount anything. If this is a working installation, try running
: showmount -e your.nfs.server.com and see what it says.
: 
: Tim

Well, I'm not editing out the server names/numbers because the intent
here is to make an nfs mount publically available.  (I'll just filter
you at the router if you abuse me :)

So, here's what we've got.  brahe is the BSDI box with the filesystem
which is nfs shared.  kepler is a debian linux box, running unstable.
I've tried this on two debian linux boxes, running stable, with the same
result.  All three boxes work as shown here ...

kepler:~ $ sudo showmount -e brahe.midco.net
Export list for brahe.midco.net:
/ftp/pub (everyone)
kepler:~ $ sudo mount -t nfs -o ro brahe:/ftp/pub /mnt
kepler:~ $ mount
/dev/sda1 on / type ext2 (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
/dev/sda5 on /var type ext2 (rw)
/dev/sda6 on /tmp type ext2 (rw)
/dev/sda7 on /var/tmp type ext2 (rw)
/dev/sda8 on /usr type ext2 (rw)
/dev/sda9 on /home type ext2 (rw)
brahe:/ftp/pub on /mnt type nfs (ro,addr=208.146.80.105)

All file operations work, I've mapped all access to a user, the
filesystem is shared read-only.

Weird, eh?

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Re: NO error in fdisk :D

1998-02-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Helmut Leinfellner writes:
  Did you create the DOS partitions in Linux or in DOS?  If you did
 it from Linux, you should delete the partition and recreate it using
 DOS's fdisk.  In general, partitions should be created using tools
 from the OS that will use them.
 
 I tried, but DOS fdisk doesn't recognize the size of the hard drive correctly.
 It says 283 MB when actually it is 4.3 GB !

 I'm sorry, I don't believe you will be able to run DOS from a
partition that DOS can't see.  I believe you mentioned earlier that
you had several bios modes available. If one of these is LBA mode, DOS
may be able to see the whole drive.  In that case, I think you would
have to delete and re-create the DOS partitions with LBA enabled.
Most new large capacity drives come with a program that permits DOS to
access them with an older bios, but I have never used one.  I don't
know if these programs modify the stored disk geometry or if they
interact with the bios.  I have always been afraid (without any real
reason) they would make the disk unusable under Linux.

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Re: upgrading to current smail

1998-02-28 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Feb 27, 1998 at 07:12:51AM -0600, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
 
 I've had to install the bo smail, and leave it htere the last few months.
 
 About the time the spam provisions went in, the new smails don't seem to talk 
 to the outside world; everything bounces both ways.  I last tried a hamm 
 version last week.  However,every time i reinstall bo's, it all works fine.

Really, smail 3.2.0.100 is broken at the moment. There a couple of things
you can try, please see the bug reports on the debian web page.
 
 Is there a doc somewhere on debugging after the upgrade?

The bug reports are the best source of information at the moment. Another
one are the man pages. You have to recreate your config files.

Marcus

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Re: r* commands don't work

1998-02-28 Thread Richard G. Roberto
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote:

 
 Part of the security behind the .rhosts files are that they will
 not work unless they are mode 644. This way only the owner can
 add to them. Make sure the ownership is correct too.

I didn't know that, but it turns out that they were 644
(default umask I guess).

Oh well.

Thanks anyway.

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Re: stm (was Console resolution (Was Viewing bootup message))

1998-02-28 Thread Benoit Goudreault-Emond
[snip]
 Hmm, I used to have that running with my tseng et4000, but when I went to
 my new s3 virge, It died completely... anyway, 80x34 is fine... 80x25 is
 just too large... I hate DOS so much... :)
  

Died how?  Don't forget that you absolutely HAVE to load fonts if you use
any S3 based card in text mode at high refresh rates (you probably knew that,
but one never knows).

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Re: diagnosing smail

1998-02-28 Thread David Stern
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:08:26 EST, Daniel Martin wrote:
 My interpretation is that smail only makes use of the from_field
 variable if incoming mail has no From: or Sender: fields already;
 further, if there is a From: field already, then smail inserts a
 Sender: field using the from_field information only if the
 pre-existing From: field doesn't match what smail would have written
 with from_field.

IOW: If I'm replying to a message, the header writing will be different 
than if I send a new message?  I'd not fully considered this previously.

This would explain why on at least one occasion I got good headers on a 
new mail, but a reply mail showed faulty headers. I wish I'd thought of 
this before. Perhaps I'm close to a fix.  I'll try getting back to that 
point and work from there.

What is the order of operations between /etc/smail/transports and 
/etc/smail/config, when modifying, adding, removing header lines, in 
terms of which goes first and last ?

 Ok - the idea is that the From: line should be the email address of
 the person the mail is from, whereas the Sender: is the email address
 of the account the mail is from, if that's different.  (Sender:
 headers are not required if the From: address also represents the
 account the mail comes from).  [..]

IOW: I need the Sender: line because my local hostname is not my isp's?

The sender line is good, because it tells where I'm connected when the 
message was sent, but does it make sense for my mail to be 
accepted/rejected based on a temporary hostname? This is what my isp 
told me had occurred.

My isp may have misled me about the problem when they said my Sender: 
line was incorrect.  Someone recently mentioned that their From: line was 
rejected by a specific isp due to the form: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (joe user), 
which is the same I use.  I've read that this form is valid, and that 
the other usage joe user [EMAIL PROTECTED] is ok to use, but not as well 
in keeping with the RFC's.  (I think I read this in some mh/nmh/exmh 
docs.)  So maybe my mail wasn't being rejected solely on the account of 
my Sender: line, maybe it was being rejected on the account of the 
combination of Sender: line *and* the form of my From: line.  IOW: 
my From: line was never looked at previously, because my Sender: line 
was good, but now that my Sender: line is bad, my From: line is being 
rejected.  This might be a good time to ask: Which form is best?

 I think there are historic reasons (before from_field was used for
 Sender: fields) for having it begin with From:.

IOW: the from_field code always modifies the From: line?

So why did the man page indicate the from_field wrote the From: or the 
Sender: line?

There is one consequence of this which ties in with an earlier point: 
if the from_field code I inserted is not behaving properly, it 
could result in my Sender: line being written in a way other than I 
desired and this could be why my Sender: line is inncorrect.

Thanks for the test code; by removing the conditions, I got it to work. 
The results show that all my variables appear as I've assigned them, so 
now I just have to figure out where the logic is going awry in my 
configuration.  I wonder what chance there is that MH is causing this 
turmoil (I switched back to MH from nmh, but at the higher hamm level.)
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Re: Signify and Pine

1998-02-28 Thread Brian White
 My signify signature's, when used with pine sometimes die completely, and
 I am completely frustrated :) And to top it all off, I only sometimes get:
 
 [1]+  Broken pipe signify --fifo=$HOME/.signature
 
 I suppose I should mention that I use the fifo option...
 Has anyone had something similar happen to them? Or would I be best to use
 a cron job and be done with it?

I've had it die occasionally, too, and I use netscape3 as a mailer.  I
wrote Signify, but I have no idea why this sometimes happens.  It would
be pretty easy to trap the SIGPIPE and just ignore it.  Maybe I'll do
that.

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Re: APC UPS'es

1998-02-28 Thread Brian White
 I am just trying to find out a quikly if the APC UPS is compatible with
 Linux. I am not to sure and I don't want to purchase the wrong one for a
 client.

Sure is!  We have 6 APC BackUPS-Pro 650's here (4 workstations and 2
servers) under genpower using the apc-pnp cable supported by the
version in Hamm.  They work great!

The apc-pnp and apc-advanced cable types should work on everything
from a BackUPS-Pro to a Matrix-UPS.

There is also the apcd package that uses the smart-signalling mode.  I
haven't been able to get it to work with the pnp cable that comes with the
newer apc shipments.

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Re: 2.0.33 kernel and libc6 dependancies

1998-02-28 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi Manoj Srivastava; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
 Hi,
   Create or download a kernel-headers-2.0.32 package, and
  install that. Then you should be able to remove the kernel sources.
 
   manoj

Thanks. I'm doing the d/l right now. But, why is that necessary in the first
place? I thought the libc6-dev dependancy to kernel-headers (or source)
=2.0.32* would accept 2.0.33 as a replacement...

Anyway, thank you all for your reply..

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Re: lyx 0.12 final in hamm is actually bo ?

1998-02-28 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi Oleg Krivosheev; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
 Hi,
 
 looks like lyx 0.12 binal bo version
 live now in hamm tree.
 
 Is it known probelm ?
 
 regards


I'm running a lyx_0.12.0.final-0.1.deb from hamm tree and this one is libc6
dependant:
ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/lyx 
libforms.so.0.88 = /usr/lib/libforms.so.0.88 (0x4000e000)
libXpm.so.4 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x40092000)
libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x400a)
libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x400a9000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400be000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4016)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4017a000)

Which means the hamm tree is the right place for it...

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Re: xemacs20

1998-02-28 Thread Matt Thompson
Cool. Thanks!

matty


On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, B. Bell wrote:

 I got the same problem with xemacs19.  I believe it was fixed by
 installing libcompfaceg1.  It appears there is a dependency here which is
 not accounted for in the control file.
 xemacs19 and xemacs20 both list a dependency for libcompface1 (the libc5
 version) perhaps that is wrong, and they should depend on libcompfaceg1.
 
 brad
 
 On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Matt Thompson wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  I'm running a full hamm system and just installed the above.  When I tried
  to run it for the first time, I got the following:
  
  $ xemacs
  xemacs: error in loading shared libraries
  libcompface.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
  directory
  
  ???
  
  TIA for any help :)
  matty
  
  
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Re: i made a mess with dselect

1998-02-28 Thread Alain Toussaint
  Someone else has advised you that a 1.3.1r6 CDs are available at
 farily cheap prices.  Another approach is to reinstall from the 1.3
 CD, then use dselect/dpkg-ftp to upgrade.  That would greatly reduce
 the amount of data to be downloaded by ftp, which would be beneficial
 if on-line time is a concern.  With a 28.8 connection a complete
 install by ftp might run 12-26 hours or longer, depending on how many
 packages you install, but upgrading from 1.3 to 1.3.1r6 would take
 less than 20% of that.

i'm only using pine,lynx,ircII and the base utils,i dont use X for now,my
machine is only used in reading document and doing research about
car/engine modification and some other topic,and my modem (33.6) can do 12
megabytes/hour when the wind's right and my ISP unplug the time counter
between midnight and 8 o'clock (am),so does this will take a long time to
do the ftp install ???

2-: for the CD,is there anyone here who can say how long the delivery take
when sending some to Canada (Quebec especially),it may sound a dumb
question but usually,all the thing i see at the TV and mag. say that i
need to allocate 4 to 6 week for the delivery ??



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Re: 2.0.33 kernel and libc6 dependancies

1998-02-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
Damir == Damir J Naden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Damir But, why is that necessary in the first place? I thought the
Damir libc6-dev dependancy to kernel-headers (or source) =2.0.32*
Damir would accept 2.0.33 as a replacement...

That happens not to be the case. Please look at the file 
 /usr/doc/kernel-headers-2.0.3x/debian.README.gz for details.

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Re: Unicode Support

1998-02-28 Thread bruce
There is substantial wide character support in the GNU LIBC 2. That will
be in Debian 2.0 . There is unicode support in the console driver in the
yet-unreleased Linux 2.1 kernel, although it seems to be mapping a
256-glyph code-page to Unicode, it is not making the entire Unicode set
available via the console driver. I don't know about X, but of course any
serious use of Unicode should be happening within X.

Bruce


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popclient

1998-02-28 Thread A.D.Y. Cheng
Hello all,

I try to find the popclient package but I cannot find it. It seems that
the popclient package has become obsolete. Can someone tell me which
package has the popclient program.

Thanks in advance!

Anthony

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found only serve to raise a whole set of new questions. In some ways we
feel we are as confused as ever, but we believe we are confused on a
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Re: ls doesn't work with anonymous ftp (wu-ftpd-academ, hamm)

1998-02-28 Thread Joel Klecker
At 15:32 -0500 1998-02-27, Nelson, R.A \(Richard/Rick\) wrote:
I've got ls working - using libc6... but the owner/gid names are
not displayed, only the numeric values.

I verified that Joel's system exhibits the same problems!

We must be missing something in ~ftp/etc that deals with the getgrnam
and related calls.  This problem is new with libc6...

No, it's missing from ~ftp/lib, copy libnss_files* from /lib to ~ftp/lib,
and user/group names are displayed correctly.

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[/home/ftp/lib]# ls -l
total 823
-r-xr-xr-x   1 root root   161959 Jan 21 10:30 ld-2.0.6.so*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   11 Feb 17 11:32 ld-linux.so.2 -
ld-2.0.6.so*
-r-xr-xr-x   1 root root   643772 Jan 21 10:31 libc-2.0.6.so*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Feb 17 11:32 libc.so.6 -
libc-2.0.6.so*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root29332 Feb  9 14:04 libnss_files-2.0.6.so*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   21 Feb 27 22:39 libnss_files.so.1 -
libnss_files-2.0.6.so*
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[/home/ftp/lib]# ftp ftp.espy.org
Connected to cerberus.espy.org.
220 cerberus.espy.org FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-16](1) Tue
Feb 17 02:42:59 CET 1998) ready.
Name (ftp.espy.org:jk): anonymous
331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
Password:
230-Welcome to...
230- .  ___ .___.___   .______
230- / '   //   \   / \,___, ,..'   `. /   \ .'   \
230- |__.  ||,_-'   |__.( |\ |`| | |__-' |
230- | ||   |   `--.  || ||| | |  \  |_
230- / // / // \___.' |`---'  `---|. /  `.__.' /   \
`.___|
230-  \   \___/
230-...Joel Klecker's little chunk of FTP space.
230-
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp cd pub
250 CWD command successful.
ftp ls -l
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
total 2197
drwxrwxr-x   6 root staff1024 Feb 11 11:17 .
dr-xr-xr-x   6 root root 1024 Feb 17 19:14 ..
drwxrwxr-x   2 root staff1024 Dec 30 18:59 apple-sw-updates
-rw-rw-r--   1 root staff   25098 Jan 14 23:47 bincompat-1.0.0.tar.gz
drwxrwxr-x   3 root staff1024 Feb  7 04:16 debian
drwxrwxr-x   2 root staff1024 Dec 31 18:20 incoming
-rw-rw-r--   1 root staff 2206028 Feb 11 11:17 iwanturvax.au
drwxrwxr-x   2 root staff1024 Dec 30 18:59 mt-newswatcher
226 Transfer complete.
ftp quit
221 Goodbye.

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Re: popclient

1998-02-28 Thread Adam Klein
On Sat, Feb 28, 1998 at 02:51:36PM +0800, A.D.Y. Cheng wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I try to find the popclient package but I cannot find it. It seems that
 the popclient package has become obsolete. Can someone tell me which
 package has the popclient program.

Your looking for the fetchmail package.

Adam Klein


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re: New Linux User (late reply)

1998-02-28 Thread Alain Toussaint
one thing i would suggest in your case is that if you had a big enough
hard drive,you can allway copy the content of you CD to the hard disk (in
DOS) and start from that,i did it,but in my case,it was more in the
interest of speed rater than incompatibility,my HD is a 1.7 gig unit.
Alain



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PPP Accounting

1998-02-28 Thread Michael Beattie

Is there a good package available to log time while using a dialup
connection? I ask because I have a monthly limit of 10 hours/month with my
ISP, before I start paying through the nose for extra hours.

Thanks,

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Re: ethernet card (hamm)

1998-02-28 Thread Carey Evans
Jonas Bofjall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Now I can't get networking to actually work. I can't ping anything except
 the loopback (127.0.0.1) and my own IP address. Does the latter mean that
 my network card works or does the packet never leave the machine?

It could be a configuration error.  The packet never leaves your
machine for your own address anyway.  Can you look at the back of the
card and see any lights flashing in time with the ping packets?  Does
the entry for the card in /proc/interrupts increase?  Can another
machine ping yours?  Does tcpdump show any network traffic?  Does
/proc/net/arp show any other addresses when you try to ping them?

 `route' displays:
 Destination  GatewayGenmask  Flags Metric Ref  Use Iface
 localnet *  255.255.0.0  U 0  02   eth0
 127.0.0.0*  255.0.0.0U 0  01   lo
 default  correct  0.0.0.0  UG1  00   eth0
 Where `correct' is the correct IP of my gateway (I choose not to write 
 it down here of various reasons). It takes rather long time before the
 third entry shows up, not minutes perhaps but many seconds.

This could be because it's trying to look up the name in DNS.  How
about netstat -rn?

Is 255.255.0.0 the correct netmask for your network?  I don't think
there are many class B networks around.

 `ifconfig eth0' has the right IP, Bcast and Netmask -- but the wrong base
 IO address. It says 0x230 and the module when loaded says 0x220.

I think this is just what the SMC Ultra card does.  Have a look at
/proc/ioports.

 How do I proceed to locate the actual problem? (I mean: how do I find out
 if the hardware is malfunctioning, if the module doesn't work with my card
 or if there's a configuration problem?)

The module usually won't load if it's incompatible.

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Re: Problem with gmp? Conflict on /dev/ttyS0?

1998-02-28 Thread Carey Evans
Charles Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have a partially installed X.  The pointer/mouse device in the
 center of the keyboard doesn't work!  (it does work when I'm running
 Windows 95).

You should:

1. Load the psaux module.  Run `modconfig' and select it, or just edit
   /etc/modules, and type `modprobe psaux'.
2. If you want to make things easier, remove gpm and forget about it.
   You don't need it if you use X for everything.  Otherwise, check
   the mailing list archives or the HOWTOs.
3. Set up the X server and choose /dev/psaux for the mouse port and
   PS/2 as the mouse protocol.

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Re: security problem (tcp/ip)

1998-02-28 Thread Carey Evans
Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How do I forward pop3 over ssh? 

This is described in question C4 in the fetchmail FAQ (at least for
version 4.3.6).  Basically you need to install ssh on the client and
sshd on the mail server (mailhost) and put something like this in
your .fetchmailrc:

poll mailhost port 1234 via localhost with pop3:
preconnect ssh -f -L 1234:mailhost:110 mailhost sleep 20 /dev/null;

The version of fetchmail in 1.3.1 might be too old for this.

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Re: root access and dselect | ftp

1998-02-28 Thread Carey Evans
Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Yes, but there is no known way to force the ftpclient to do such
 things. The client doesn't accept any commands and any data it gets is,
 well, data, so it is not executed, just written to disk.

Well, there are a few exceptions, but they won't affect dselect+ftp.

When you do mget * from your ftp client, it asks the server for all
the files in the directory.  A malicious server could send back the
file ../etc/passwd, which some clients will happily download and
save.  You could also have files like .profile or .exrc in the
directory, which get returned and saved with no problems.  These files
will then contain the commands.  Just be careful, and do as little as
possible as root.

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Re: diagnosing smail

1998-02-28 Thread john
David Stern writes:
 I wonder what chance there is that MH is causing this turmoil (I switched
 back to MH from nmh, but at the higher hamm level.)

For these sorts of experiments I find it best to just use the 'mail'
command.  This eliminates any confusion about who is doing what to which
headers.  For figuring out what it takes to satisfy my isp's sendmail
rules, I telnet to their smtp port and type smtp commands in directly.

I've never been able to get conditionals to work right in the smail config
file either.
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Re: wwwcount from hamm

1998-02-28 Thread John Boggon

-Original Message-
From: Bujtar Janos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Wednesday, 25 February 1998 15:46
Subject: re: wwwcount from hamm


Bujtar Janos wrote:

 HI!

 Is there anybody who uses wwwcount package fro hamm?


Solved !!


I called the cgi script like that:   (Debian hamm / Apache)
img src=/cgi-bin/wwwcount.cgi?df=counter.dat   Does NOT work !!


My guess ( and I know nothing about html or cgi) is the leading / in the
path...



BUT:
img src=http://my.ip.addrr/cgi-bin/wwwcount.cgi?df=counter.dat;
WORKS fine


Can anybody tell me what i did wrong 



Thnx
james


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make-kpkg

1998-02-28 Thread Ralph Winslow
I've loaded kernel-source-2.0.32-3 and kernel-package 3.28 from
Cheap*Bytes' Debian 1.3.1 (Update) CD and run make-kpkg buildpackage. 
This failed, not finding pgp, but AFAICS all the kernel*.deb objects are
now in /usr/src.  When I dpkg -i
/usr/src/kernel-image-2.0.32_1.00_i386.deb, however, I appears to be
successful, but ls -l / still shows the old kernel in place.  What am I
doing wrong?

BTW, those of us who are content to stick with bo for a while longer
are, IMHO, well served with one of the CD distributions that are
available at such reasonable prices.  My frustration level is way down
now that I'm unchained from my 33.6Kb modem.  Thanks to all concerned
and especially to Manoj for the kernel-package package.
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Re: popclient

1998-02-28 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 I try to find the popclient package but I cannot find it. It seems that
 the popclient package has become obsolete. Can someone tell me which
 package has the popclient program.

fetchmail

And the program is called fetchmail, not popclient.
Be aware: both poclient and fetchmail use configuration files that look
very alike. Nevertheless, they are not 100% compatible.

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Re: DEBIAN or REDHAT ?

1998-02-28 Thread Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131
Hi,

 Hi,
 
 I am currently using hamm and am very happy with it.  I will be
 installing a new Linux system soon but everyone is telling me to install
 RedHat 5.  Has anyone any opinions on this?  I tend to be partial to
 Debian, especially with GNOME being integrated into hamm.  However, I've
 never used Redhat.

I have just switched from RedHat 5 to Debain 1.3.1,  The main difference
between the 2 is the installation routine.  I personally think that RedHat's is
better, but Debain seem to configure more on installation.

 Also, I've been advised that RedHat puts out security fixes the next day
 after a CERT advisory is released.  How is Debian when it comes to
 security and other patches?  When I was using bo, patches weren't released
 very often.  Is this an indication that RedHat is more buggy, or is it an
 indication that Debian is more stable?  For example, when the CERT
 advisory for SSH-AGENT was release over a week ago, one of the OSes that
 responded to the CERT advisory was RedHat.  Much to my dismay, Debian
 wasn't one of the OSes that was mentioned on the CERT list.  I ended up
 compiling SSH on my own.

I have alos found that it seemed a lot of the packages avaliable under RedHat 5
were broken or just didn't work properly, so I had to get on the net and down
load all the updates, which I don't particulaly expect to have to do when
buying a commercial release of Linux.

This maybe true but RedHat are a commercial organisationwho are paying people
to write and fix code, Debain is not.  At the momment I think that Debain is
the better distribution for me anyway, but I do miss some of the tools
avaliable under RedHat, like the control panel, and glint but I can live
without them.

 Thanks in advance for any suggestions or tips.

Its all really personal choice, I prefer Debain my Friends like RedHat.  The
choice is yours, but if you can I would try both.


Graham
 
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SMTP transaction error

1998-02-28 Thread A.D.Y. Cheng
Hello all,

I have just installed the debian fetchmail package and now I cannot
download mail from my server. Before I install debian fetchmail package, I
use popclient and it works perfectly. Now I change to fetchmail, it gives
me the error:

reading message 1 (2561 bytes) .fetchmail: SMTP connect to (null) failed
fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from pop.hkstar.com

I am sure I got the pop.hkstar.com server name right. When I change back
to popclient. It also gives similar error. Can someone tell me what should
I do to fix this problem.

For more information, I include the output from fetchmail --version:

This is fetchmail release 3.8 pl 0
Taking options from command line and /home/adyc100/.fetchmailrc
Options for retrieving from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Protocol is POP3.
  Server nonresponse timeout is 300 seconds (default).
  Only new messages will be retrieved (--all off).
  Fetched messages will not be kept on the server (--keep off).
  Old messages will not be flushed before message retrieval (--flush off).
  Rewrite of server-local addresses is enabled (--norewrite off).
  Carriage-return stripping is disabled (--stripcr off).
  Messages will be SMTP-forwarded to: Mozart
  1 local name(s) recognized (by default).
  DNS lookup for multidrop addresses is enabled.
  No UIDs saved from this host. 

Thanks in advance!!

Anthony

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found only serve to raise a whole set of new questions. In some ways we
feel we are as confused as ever, but we believe we are confused on a
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Re: lyx 0.12 final in hamm is actually bo ?

1998-02-28 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
 I'm running a lyx_0.12.0.final-0.1.deb from hamm tree and this one is libc6
 dependant:
 
 Which means the hamm tree is the right place for it...

yes, but mark it with an = in deselect to hold it, so it doesn't get replaced 
with the bo version mentioned, which  requires obsolete xforms packages not 
available in hamm.

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Q: Good Tape Streamers

1998-02-28 Thread John Plate
Hi

If you know about good tape streamers, please contact me by e-mail.

Thanks
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gimp jpegs

1998-02-28 Thread Charles Shearer
I have succesfully built gimp on this new Debian 1.3 setup except that it
will not build the jpeg plugin.  The output from ./configure is 

checking for jpeg_destroy_decompress in -ljpeg... (cached) no
configure: warning: *** JPEG plug-in will not be built ***   

libjpeg.so.6a.0.0 is installed on the system - is there something else I
need?  I've gone through dselect installing everything to do with jpegs but
no luck.

Charles

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Re: gimp jpegs

1998-02-28 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Charles Shearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have succesfully built gimp on this new Debian 1.3 setup except that it
 will not build the jpeg plugin.  The output from ./configure is 
 
 checking for jpeg_destroy_decompress in -ljpeg... (cached) no
 configure: warning: *** JPEG plug-in will not be built ***   
 
 libjpeg.so.6a.0.0 is installed on the system - is there something else I
 need?  I've gone through dselect installing everything to do with jpegs but
 no luck.

You need libjpeg-dev. Good luck!

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[fvwmconf] HowTo?

1998-02-28 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
I have installed this package.  /usr/doc/fvwmconf does not have much
info on how to run it.  Neither does it have a man page.  How do I get
started with thjs?

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auctex failing on hamm system

1998-02-28 Thread Mike Miller
I've found that auctex cannot find default tex formats on my
recently upgraded hamm system.  I do not yet know if this is a
problem with emacs, xemacs, auctex, or the tetex packages.  Has
anyone else seen this behavior?  To sort this out, I'm installing
my own emacs from scratch at the moment.

Mike


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-- MARK --

1998-02-28 Thread Matt Thompson
Out of the blue, that started showing up in my xconsole on twenty minute
intervals, as in:

Feb 28 04:35:53 mattyt -- MARK --
Feb 28 04:55:53 mattyt -- MARK --

???

TIA for any insight. :)
matty


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Re: -- MARK --

1998-02-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, 28 Feb 1998, Matt Thompson wrote:

: Out of the blue, that started showing up in my xconsole on twenty minute
: intervals, as in:
: 
: Feb 28 04:35:53 mattyt -- MARK --
: Feb 28 04:55:53 mattyt -- MARK --
: 
: ???
: 
: TIA for any insight. :)
: matty

Well, this showed up on the list yesterday ...

From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Feb 28 14:50:57 1998
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 23:34:58 +0100
From: Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Thomas Lakofski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: `-- MARK --' in syslog every 20 minutes
Resent-Date: 27 Feb 1998 22:30:57 -
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ;

On Fri, Feb 27, 1998 at 05:22:00PM -0500, Thomas Lakofski wrote:
 Hmmm, I just upgraded some hamm packages (don't remember which, but they
 changed in the last few days) and now my syslog gets

You've upgraded sysklogd to the most recent version, as it's maintainer
you may believe me.

 Feb 27 12:55:14 mu -- MARK --
 
 in it every 20 minutes.  Anybody else getting this?

*ROTFL*

I'm getting bugreports because it doesn't work.
People now wonder that it works.
This is silly.

rtfm btw:

   -m interval
  The syslogd logs a mark  timestamp  regularly.  The
  default interval between two -- MARK -- lines is 20
  minutes. This can be changed with this option.

So if you don't want to receive this either set a higher interval
or add mark.none to the lines in /etc/syslog.conf.

Regards,

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Support for Debian GNU/Linux

1998-02-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
This is the last time I'll ask this question, I promise.

A while ago, Bruse Perens stated that there would be an effort to
provide some sort of centralized support for Debian.  I'm interested in
this since the company I work for likes to have a signed support
contract with our vendors.  Anyone know if there have been any
developments along these lines?

In the 1998 Linux Journal Buyer's guide, there is a matrix comparing the
various distributions.  Under Debian, it says that optional paid
commercial support is available, but gives no details.

Anyone?

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Re: Support for Debian GNU/Linux

1998-02-28 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Sat, 28 Feb 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:

 This is the last time I'll ask this question, I promise.
 
 A while ago, Bruse Perens stated that there would be an effort to
 provide some sort of centralized support for Debian.  I'm interested in
 this since the company I work for likes to have a signed support
 contract with our vendors.  Anyone know if there have been any
 developments along these lines?

http://www.linuxpress.com/001001.htm
Offers free 30 e-mail support, maybe Dale also works on a pay for support
basis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

http://www.debian.org/consultants.html
The official list of people willing to give paid support, mostly by hour.

Brandon

P.S. please avoid cross posting

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Cogent eMaster+ PCI installation

1998-02-28 Thread Oliver Vecernik

Hi,

I'm trying to install this adapter for hours.

with modconf I've choosen 'tulip'-driver for DEC 21040 (installation succeeded).

ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0
kein Gateway
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0 dev lo

It worked until now. But: pinging works only with localhost (127.0.0.1) or 
with debian (192.168.1.1). But there are two more adresses (192.168.1.2 
and 192.168.1.10). The hardware works, because bootet with Windows 
95 everything works fine.

What is my mistake?

Regards
Oliver


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Re: Support for Debian GNU/Linux

1998-02-28 Thread bruce
A commercial company will have a proposal on my desk this weekend
to coordinate the worldwide network of Debian consultants in a single
support organization.

Thanks

Bruce


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Re: Support for Debian GNU/Linux

1998-02-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On 28 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: A commercial company will have a proposal on my desk this weekend
: to coordinate the worldwide network of Debian consultants in a single
: support organization.
: 
:   Thanks
: 
:   Bruce

Woohoo!  This is excellent news!  Thanks, Bruce.

(Needless to say, I await details with much anticipation)

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NAT solution for Linux?

1998-02-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
Is there a kernel module and/or software that provides Network Address
Translation (something similar to what Cisco's PIX product does)?

I know about Masquerading; I have friends who use it, and I'm building
such a machine for my home network.  However, we have some large
locations, and customers with large locations, who would like to use
NAT.  Right now this means going with the PIX product.  I believe
there's an NT solution but I've never used it, so I can't recommend it.
There was a mention of a NAT effort on the bsdi list a while ago ... so,
I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask about it here.

For those who don't know, NAT uses the concept of pools ... private
addresses on the inside are mapped to public addresses on the
outside. The public addresses are drawn from a pool.  In other words,
each client has its own IP address, or translation slot, whereas a
masquerading proxy server uses Port Address Translation, where all 
requests come from the same public IP address.  The PIX has some cool
security features for each translation slot ... though it seems to me
this could be more generalized if done on top of Linux.

If I were some sort of programming wizard I think this would be a good
project to take on ... however, I'm no wizard :/

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Re: gimp jpegs

1998-02-28 Thread Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
On Sat, 28 Feb 1998, Charles Shearer wrote:

 checking for jpeg_destroy_decompress in -ljpeg... (cached) no
 configure: warning: *** JPEG plug-in will not be built ***   
 
 libjpeg.so.6a.0.0 is installed on the system

try ln -s libjpeg.so.6a.0.0 libjpeg.so

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Re: Cogent eMaster+ PCI installation

1998-02-28 Thread aqy6633
 I'm trying to install this adapter for hours.
 
 with modconf I've choosen 'tulip'-driver for DEC 21040 (installation 
 succeeded).
 
 ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
 route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0
 kein Gateway
 ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
 route add -net 127.0.0.0 dev lo
 
 It worked until now. But: pinging works only with localhost (127.0.0.1) or 
 with debian (192.168.1.1). But there are two more adresses (192.168.1.2 
 and 192.168.1.10). The hardware works, because bootet with Windows 
 95 everything works fine.

What kernel are you using? 2.0.32 kernel has quite an outdated tulip
driver. It is *much* more mature now. My suggestion would be to download
the latest tulip.c from http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip.html
and recompile the kernel with it.

Alex Y.
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Re: make-kpkg

1998-02-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

Could you show us the output of 
 % ls -als /
 % ls -asCF /boot

It is hard to tell from the information given what is going on
 ;-) (BTW, the out-of-the-box default should be --bzImage).

manoj
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Motif and lesstif coexistance?

1998-02-28 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
Can RedHat motif (I used alien to convert a .rpm to .deb) co-exist with
lesstif?  xscreensaver installation complains that it needs lesstif.

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Re: SMTP transaction error

1998-02-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

Please send the output of 

 % fetchmail -a -k -v
 where
 -v, --verbose work noisily (diagnostic output)
 -a, --all retrieve old and new messages
 -k, --keepsave new messages after retrieval

I don't like the SMTP connect to (null) failed; maybe your
 FQDN is not visible to fetchmail? try:
 % hostname -v -f 
 -f, --fqdn, --longlong host name (FQDN)
 and the -v makes it verbose.

manoj
 Oh, I get:

__ hostname -v -f
gethostname()=`tiamat'
Resolving `tiamat' ...
Result: h_name=`tiamat.datasync.com'
Result: h_aliases=`tiamat'
Result: h_addr_list=`206.96.246.252'
tiamat.datasync.com


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Re: SMTP transaction error

1998-02-28 Thread Carey Evans
A.D.Y. Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[snip]

 reading message 1 (2561 bytes) .fetchmail: SMTP connect to (null) failed
 fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from pop.hkstar.com
 
 I am sure I got the pop.hkstar.com server name right. When I change back
 to popclient. It also gives similar error. Can someone tell me what should
 I do to fix this problem.

The output of `fetchmail --verbose' would help too, as well as your
.fetchmailrc (without your password).

But anyway, I think the problem is that fetchmail can't deliver the
mail to the MTA on your computer.  It's trying to send to a computer
named Mozart; is this in /etc/hosts?  If you `telnet Mozart 25' do
you get a response starting with 220?

If you're running smail, you might need to reconfigure it with
`smailconfig'.

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