Re: Design of Debian web site

1998-03-28 Thread Travis Cole
On Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 05:12:18PM -0600, Ender Wigin wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Please do not forget that there are users who access the site
> > using text-based browsers like Lynx. Navigation bars and like make a site
> > more difficult to navigate for them.
> 
> That should not be an isue ... you can write a script that autoloads a
> lynx version automaticly if you can't handle frames  I may be wrong
> about this but I realy think I've seen this somewhere before
> 

The best thing to do is not even use frames (I hate them, personally) and
use alt tags for images and test the pages in a lot of browsers.

Take a look at http://slashdot.org for a page that looks great, has
cool graphics, tables and all that, yet still works very well in lynx.

Keeping lynx compatibility is trivial.

Also, I am in the camp who would love to see an updated Debian home
page.  Same emphasis on content, but with a more consistent look and 
fell and some cooler graphics.

I would even be willing to help any one who want to go in on this endeavor.

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Re: exmh and procmail filtering

1998-03-28 Thread Oliver Elphick
Erik van der Meulen wrote:
 ...
  >Could anyone send me an example of a .procmail file for use with exmh?

This is my ~/.procmailrc:

MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
LOCKFILE=$HOME/procmail/lock
LOGFILE=$HOME/procmail/new
LOGABSTRACT=all
TRAP=$HOME/procmail/postprocess
DEFAULT=inbox/.
#:0 c
#backup/.
#
:0
* ^TO.*linux-kernel-digest
linux/kernel-digest/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*FreeMoney
freemoney/.
#
:0 E
* ^Newsgroups.*postgresql
postgresql/questions/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*SmallEiffel
smalleiffel/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*linux-uk-help
linux-uk/help/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*linux-uk-discuss
linux-uk/discuss/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*Linux-Users
Linux-Users/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*xvscanlist
xvscan/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*lyx-users
lyx/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*linux-training
linux/training/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*linux-gcc
linux/gcc/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*linux-doc
linux/doc/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*linux-biz
linux/biz/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*postgres
postgresql/questions/.
#
:0 E
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
postgresql/questions/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*pgsql-hackers-digest
postgresql/devel/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*(questions@(hub|postgresql).org|[EMAIL PROTECTED])
postgresql/questions/.
#
:0 E
* ^Resent.*debian-testing
debian/testing/.
#
:0 E
* ^Resent.*debian-mentors
debian/mentors/.
#
:0 E
* ^Resent.*debian-changes
debian/changes/.
#
:0 E
* ^Resent.*debian-qa
debian/qa/.
#
:0 E
* ^Resent.*debian-private
debian/private/.
#
:0 E
* ^Resent.*debian-policy
debian/policy/.
#
:0 E
* ^Resent.*debian-announce
debian/announce/.
#
:0 E
* ^Resent.*debian-user
debian/user/.
#
:0 E
* ^Resent.*debian-doc
debian/doc/.
#
:0 E
* ^Resent.*debian-devel-changes
debian/devel-changes/.
#
:0 E
* ^Resent.*debian-devel
debian/devel/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*rosegarden
midi/.
#
:0 E
* ^CC.*rosegarden
midi/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*isdn4linux
isdn/.
#
:0 E
* ^TO.*linux-list
linux-list/.
#
:0 E
* ^RECEIVED.*troll.no
qt/.
#
:0 E
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sales/.
#
:0 E
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
enterprise/.
#
:0 E
*^TO.*postmaster
postmaster/.
#
:0 E
*^TO.*usenet
root/.
#
:0 E
*^TO.*root
root/.
#
:0 E
*^TO.*olly
inbox/.
#
:0 E
*^TO.*Oliver
inbox/.
#
:0 E
*^TO.*
misaddressed/.

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Re: XDM with Debian 1.3E6

1998-03-28 Thread Oliver Elphick
Carroll Kong wrote:
... re xdm ...
  > Everytime I try to login with a valid user account, it says, login
  >failed.  I have a .xsession in the users' home dir.  I added the *.domain.na
  >me
  >in the Xaccess part.  I am guessing my xdm-config is setup improperly for
  >authentification.  I added DisplayManager*authenticate:  true and a few 
  >other
  >things... still no go.  And... I cannot get xdm to start up locally so I can
  >test it easier.  Even when I did get it running locally, still get that "log
  >in
  >failed" even with valid user logins (telnets works fine).  

Perhaps you should be using xdm-shadow?  I seem to remember having had
this problem in the days when I was running bo.

Look at /etc/init.d/xdm and see whether it starts xdm or xdm-shadow. Try
swapping which one it starts (provided that they are not effectively the
same file, as they are on my hamm system).

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Re: Design of Debian web site

1998-03-28 Thread Ender Wigin

> Hi,
> 
> Please do not forget that there are users who access the site
> using text-based browsers like Lynx. Navigation bars and like make a site
> more difficult to navigate for them.

That should not be an isue ... you can write a script that autoloads a
lynx version automaticly if you can't handle frames  I may be wrong
about this but I realy think I've seen this somewhere before

-K



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Re: mail server (fwd)

1998-03-28 Thread Uwe Hentzschel
George Bonser schrieb:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > 
> > May I suggest www.qmail.org.  Forget Smail & Sendmail and get a good
> > MTA. Check the archives of the qmail list.  There are Debian users
> > that have qmail running, even tho it is not a debian package.  Save
> > yourself a LOT of grief! Use qmail!
>
> If it is grief you are trying to save people, you should be pointing them
> to exim.  Qmail has its own set of problems. 
>
> George Bonser 
> Just be thankful that Microsoft does not manufacture pharmaceuticals.
> http://www.debian.org
> Debian/GNU Linux ... the maintainable operating system.
>
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XDM with Debian 1.3E6

1998-03-28 Thread Carroll Kong
Hi guys, I have returned to the list, had to get my processor fixed.
Anyway, I am running Debian 1.3R6 and I want to have an XDM setup so I can
remotely use my resources and afterstep setup rather than another computer's
limited resources and "crappy" windows manager.  (afterstep doesn't seem to
install on their side very easily).  
I am using typical run levels... run level 2, goes to terminal mode.  I
run "xdm"... and one time... i ran it with some arguments and I got it to go to
the xdm login screen... where I got stuck.  Now, I remotely login through a
computer with xdm, and I see my xdm login screen again but this is the "stuck
part."  
Everytime I try to login with a valid user account, it says, login
failed.  I have a .xsession in the users' home dir.  I added the *.domain.name
in the Xaccess part.  I am guessing my xdm-config is setup improperly for
authentification.  I added DisplayManager*authenticate: true and a few other
things... still no go.  And... I cannot get xdm to start up locally so I can
test it easier.  Even when I did get it running locally, still get that "login
failed" even with valid user logins (telnets works fine).  
Thanks in advance guys!


Carroll Kong


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exmh and procmail filtering

1998-03-28 Thread Erik van der Meulen
I would like to use exmh for my mail client, instead of elm. I would like to
set up procmail for the filtering and sorting. Early experiments succeeded
in moving mail to elm-style files but not in a format which is acceptable to
ex(mh) directories. 
Could anyone send me an example of a .procmail file for use with exmh?

Much appreciated!
 

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Re: Deity looks AWESOME

1998-03-28 Thread Mike Acklin
Sorry, I must be dense today. Stuph, I guess is like the dog in
Louisiana, Phideaux (fido) :-)

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On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Wintermute wrote:

> Mike Acklin wrote:
> > 
> > What exactly is Deity? When you say stuph, what exactly is that? but
> > thanks for the early review :-)
> > 
> 
> Sorry.  As George has said, it's a graphical replacement for dselect
> with a boat-load of new features.  It should make package management a
> dream.
> 
> Stuph - is well.. stuff, only cooler.  Note the "ph".  See Also: Phrack,
> Phun, and Keen.
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Re: Design of Debian web site

1998-03-28 Thread john
Cleto writes:
> Please do not forget that there are users who access the site using
> text-based browsers like Lynx.

I never access it with anything else.

> Navigation bars and like make a site more difficult to navigate for them.

I would hate to see the Debian site become as cluttered with graphical crap
as the rest of the Web.
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Re: Deity looks AWESOME

1998-03-28 Thread Randy Edwards
   Okay, I'll bite: where can one find/download Deity?  Also, "how unstable" is
it?

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Re: Deity looks AWESOME

1998-03-28 Thread Wintermute
Mike Acklin wrote:
> 
> What exactly is Deity? When you say stuph, what exactly is that? but
> thanks for the early review :-)
> 

Sorry.  As George has said, it's a graphical replacement for dselect
with a boat-load of new features.  It should make package management a
dream.

Stuph - is well.. stuff, only cooler.  Note the "ph".  See Also: Phrack,
Phun, and Keen.


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Re: Debian Hamm & Dselect

1998-03-28 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Wintermute wrote:

> Mike Acklin wrote:
> > 
> > At 03:20 PM 3/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Is it ok to set dselect to use the package files in /debian/hamm/ yet?
> > >I was using /debian/dists/unstable before now, and I noticed the other
> > >day that my package list went to nothing.
> > >
> > 
> > I think that the correct dir is /debian/frozen as hamm went frozen 
> > on
> > Thursday and is suppose to go stable on the 20th of April. That is what I
> > have been reading on the list here the last few days.
> > 
> 
> Unfortunately I don't see a /debian/frozen directory on ftp.debian.org.

Typo.  /debian/dists/frozen will work.

Bob


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Re: Deity looks AWESOME

1998-03-28 Thread Mike Acklin
What exactly is Deity? When you say stuph, what exactly is that? but
thanks for the early review :-)

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On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Wintermute wrote:

> I've been hearing snippets of praise for Deity lately.
> 
> I just downloaded it to give it a try... WOW.  This is REALLY cool
> stuph.  Whoever is responsible, you have my applause.  Excellent work!
> 
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Re: Debian Hamm & Dselect

1998-03-28 Thread Wintermute
George Bonser wrote:
> 
> Try /debian/dists/frozen
> 
> On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Wintermute wrote:
> 
> >
> > Unfortunately I don't see a /debian/frozen directory on ftp.debian.org.
> >
> 

By the way, I just checked.  /debian/dists/frozen is a sym-link to hamm
which is a sym-link to ../hamm.

So I guess it IS ok to use /debian/hamm after all. :)  Thanks all.


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Re: Debian Hamm & Dselect

1998-03-28 Thread Wintermute
George Bonser wrote:
> 
> Try /debian/dists/frozen
> 
> On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Wintermute wrote:
> 
> >
> > Unfortunately I don't see a /debian/frozen directory on ftp.debian.org.
> >
> 

Thankeee kindleee.


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Re: Debian Hamm & Dselect

1998-03-28 Thread Mike Acklin
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Wintermute wrote:

> > At 03:20 PM 3/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately I don't see a /debian/frozen directory on ftp.debian.org.
> 
> 

Hmmm. Maybe someone else could help out here. I am almost sure it was
frozen, but I looked via http and didn't see it either. All I did see was
the hamm files. I could have sworn that they said frozen was the
directory. Sorry to lead you astray


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Deity looks AWESOME

1998-03-28 Thread Wintermute
I've been hearing snippets of praise for Deity lately.

I just downloaded it to give it a try... WOW.  This is REALLY cool
stuph.  Whoever is responsible, you have my applause.  Excellent work!


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Re: Design of Debian web site

1998-03-28 Thread cleto
Hi,

Please do not forget that there are users who access the site
using text-based browsers like Lynx. Navigation bars and like make a site
more difficult to navigate for them.

Cleto

On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Thomas Apel wrote:

> To make it more clear what I mean: I think of home page with a
> navigation bar on the left and a text column on the right. The
> navigation bar should contain a maximum of about 6 top level categories
> like About, News, Support, Development... each with its second level
> categories. The text column could contain a brief description of what
> Debian is, the latest news article or other related stuff. And to make
> it perfect one could add a nice banner containing the logo and the text
> "Debian GNU/Linux".
> 
> All other pages could contain a smaller version of the banner and a
> navigation bar on the top with only the top level categories. The whole
> thing could be colored in white / red / dark blue like the logo.


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Re: Debian Hamm & Dselect

1998-03-28 Thread Wintermute
Mike Acklin wrote:
> 
> At 03:20 PM 3/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >Is it ok to set dselect to use the package files in /debian/hamm/ yet?
> >I was using /debian/dists/unstable before now, and I noticed the other
> >day that my package list went to nothing.
> >
> 
> I think that the correct dir is /debian/frozen as hamm went frozen on
> Thursday and is suppose to go stable on the 20th of April. That is what I
> have been reading on the list here the last few days.
> 

Unfortunately I don't see a /debian/frozen directory on ftp.debian.org.


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Re: Debian Hamm & Dselect

1998-03-28 Thread Mike Acklin
At 03:20 PM 3/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Is it ok to set dselect to use the package files in /debian/hamm/ yet? 
>I was using /debian/dists/unstable before now, and I noticed the other
>day that my package list went to nothing.
>


I think that the correct dir is /debian/frozen as hamm went frozen on
Thursday and is suppose to go stable on the 20th of April. That is what I
have been reading on the list here the last few days.



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Debian Hamm & Dselect

1998-03-28 Thread Wintermute
Is it ok to set dselect to use the package files in /debian/hamm/ yet? 
I was using /debian/dists/unstable before now, and I noticed the other
day that my package list went to nothing.


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Re: menus don't show up in hamm

1998-03-28 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 09:00:44AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> > [no menus with afterstep or windowmaker]
> > 
> 
> 
> > :cp -a /usr/share/GNUstep ~
> 
> Thanks, Ray.  That fixes afterstep.  I'll RTM on windowmaker to see if
> something similar is needed there.

I think I found something which might explain the problem with
windowmaker.  

$ less ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu
"menu.hook"

menu.hook is missing.  IIRC it was there previously.

Bob


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[OFF TOPIC] scripting help

1998-03-28 Thread Paul Miller

I'm trying to write a script to retrive a file listed in a text file, $1. 
The text can contain multiple file locations, if the first location fails,
then it should try the next location, and so forth.  I've included a
sample file below. 

--- sample file ---
Version 1.0
url smb://164.67.106.190:VIVI/C/WINDOWS/HELP/CLOSEWIN.AVI
alternate url smb://128.54.221.165:ERIC/C/WINDOWS/HELP/CLOSEWIN.AVI
alternate url smb://169.229.88.61:REVNED/C/WINDOWS/HELP/CLOSEWIN.AVI
alternate url smb://128.125.244.62:ELISA586/C/WINDOWS/HELP/CLOSEWIN.AVI
alternate url smb://128.54.205.151:JASON508/C/WINDOWS/HELP/CLOSEWIN.AVI
alternate url smb://128.54.207.176:YANG/C/WINDOWS/HELP/CLOSEWIN.AVI
alternate url smb://128.54.228.31:VIKAS/DRIVE 1/WINDOWS/HELP/CLOSEWIN.AVI
alternate url smb://128.195.217.38:IDASSLER98/C/WINDOWS/HELP/CLOSEWIN.AVI
alternate url smb://128.253.175.163:SAVALLI/C/WINDOWS/HELP/CLOSEWIN.AVI
--- EOF --

Here is exactly what the script must do:  ($1 = text file/list)
1) read line 1 of $1 (version) and print it to stdout

loop until successful or all URLs fail {
a) read line n of $1
b) identify url type (ftp, http, smb, etc.)
c) execute appropiate sub routine for url type
}
2) print results message (successful or failure and reason)
3) terminate

smb sub routine {
a) identify ip address
b) identify host name
c) identify share
d) identify location of file
e) identify file name
f) execute subclient and retrive file
smbclient "//$host/$share" -N -I "$ip" << !
lcd "$local_download_path"
cd "$dir"
get "$file"
exit
!
g) print error message if any (file not found, unable to contact host,
etc.)
h) return to main loop.
}

.. the other sub routines I can figure out from the smb routine.

My problem is how to read the lines and sort of the variables..  Right
now, I'm trying to write this script in a bash shell script--I can't
program yet.  I wouldn't mind using perl though. 

Many thanks in advance,
-Paul



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Re: EXIM Help

1998-03-28 Thread Mike Acklin
At 03:35 PM 3/27/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>DUH!  It looks like Fetchmail is attempting deliver. Configure it to pass
>the mail to SMTP.
>
>

George, Rob, List

Ok I think I have exim now the SMTP host, but now I am getting a message
when I run fetchmail --verbose.

fetchmail: SMTP>rect to 
fetchmail: SMTP<501 : recipient address must contain a domain
fetchmail: listener doesn't like recipient address 'htuttle'
fetchmail: SMTP<501 : recipient address must contain a domain
fetchmail: can't even send to calling user!
fetchmail: POP3>QUIT

Where do I let fetchmail/exim the domain of htuttle? I have tried 
putting
it in .fetchmailrc and then it complains about wrong user
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mail.dallas.net'. So take it out of there and put it in
exim.conf and it make no difference as I get the same message as above.
Looked over the info exim and it said to try using the .netrc. So put it in
there and still got the above.

Where do I let exim know of my domain. I think that is what is my 
problem
and it is not accepting the messages. I have a system name of archangel,
user names of root and htuttle. My POP3 account it listed as
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and all I want to do is get the mail off the server
mail.dallas.net without having to shutdown and start winblows95. 

Thanks for everyone help



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[wtopa@ix.netcom.com: Re: mail server]

1998-03-28 Thread wtopa
Subject: Re: mail server
Date: Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 10:58:19AM -0800

In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> On Sat, 28 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > 
> > May I suggest www.qmail.org.  Forget Smail & Sendmail and get a good
> > MTA. Check the archives of the qmail list.  There are Debian users
> > that have qmail running, even tho it is not a debian package.  Save
> > yourself a LOT of grief! Use qmail!
> 
> If it is grief you are trying to save people, you should be pointing them
> to exim.  Qmail has its own set of problems. 

Why?  I had tried to use Sendmail/Smail for 2 years and had nothing
but grief, 'bat boot', notwithstanding.  I then tried Qmail, had it
working better then I EVER had the others wotking, and it took 3 days.

Qmail does everything I could hope for.  I have never tried exim.  Is
there a pressing reason that I should?

here is some data that was posted on the qmail list. Shows what one
site found to be the most used MTA's

Total   12318  %100.0
-
   Total Sendmail   863970.1
  unknown   633 5
Qmail   575 4
 smap   367 2
 PMDF   334 2
  Post.Office   223 1
Smail   203 1
 Exim   197 1
   Microsoft Exchange   180 1
   PP   95  0
 Netscape Mail Server   93  0
IMail   71  0
  ZMailer   64  0
   WindowsNT SMTP   64  0
  Generic   52  0
   MX   38  0
   Eudora   37  0
IMS SMTP Receiver   34  0
Groupwise   34  0
   SLMail   33  0
  Pretend   32  0
   Microsoft SMTP   28  0
  Mercury   28  0
  IBM VM SMTP   27  0
  CheckPoint FireWall   23  0
InterLock   20  0
   Lotus SMTP MTA Service   19  0
   CISCO MultiNet   15  0
  Vmailer   15  0
 IPAD   14  0
Mail*Link   14  0
 TGV MultiNet   14  0
 MailSite   13  0
   SMTPXD   12  0
   AltaVista Mail   11  0
iSMTP   8   0
  Apple Internet Mail   8   0
   Black Hole   7   0
  MDaemon   7   0
  iSC   6   0
Intermail   6   0
   FirstClass   6   0
  Stalker   4   0
  Wildcat   3   0
 S-Bridge   3   0
   GIVEME   3   0
InterScan   3   0
WorldMail   3   0


Is there a reason to use exim over qmail?  Is this a Debian Free
Software issue or what?  

  No flames intended, I just use the software that does the job for
me.  

 I did not see a post by you suggesting exim.  Do you have a problem
with qmail?


Wayne

 
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Re: HP T1000E tape drive

1998-03-28 Thread finn
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: I own a HP T1000E tape drive (runs off the lpt1 port). And I am
: wondering if there is anyway to get it to run with debian gnu linux. 

You can disassemble the unit and remove the T-1000 drive you find inside
- it hooks to the floppy cable like most "Colorado" type drives.

The parallel port interface is not, and as far as I know will not, be
supported.

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Re: Design of Debian web site

1998-03-28 Thread jason. ish
>The last times I visited the Debian web site I had to realize that it is
>not very impressing concerning design and structure. Especially in
>design the sites of FreeBSD, The GNOME Project, KDE, Red Hat, etc. have
>a lot more to offer.



Although the Debian site may not be a 'pretty' as some that you have
mentioned, I have found it to have more to offer than any other Linux distro
site, or FreeBSD - and its quicker over a slow connection.

Jason



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[OFF TOPIC] Netscape/applications

1998-03-28 Thread Paul Miller

I want netscape to download a text file and run an application.  I've been
able to get netscape to execute a script, but I don't know how to retrive
the file.  The file is a 2 line text file sent by a cgi script from a web
page.  Is there any way I can get netscape to download the file or another
program in a script?

Thanks
-Paul


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Re: mail server

1998-03-28 Thread dg
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Daniel Quinlan wrote:

> hi,
>I'm setting up a debian box which will act as the internet connection
> and mail server.
>What I'd like to do is have all mail delivered to the debian box be
> retrieved by the user via POP3 and all mail sent from users (from their
> win95 desktops) forwarded by the mail server to a smarthost.
> 
>Now when I go to install the standard mail server (smail?) it offers
> a couple of choices, I'm not sure which one would be appopriate.

Hi Daniel !

I have done a similar configuration for my company. This little Debian box
(an old 486-DX/66 with about 40 Megs RAM and 1,2 Gig Harddisk) serves about
20 Users as a SAMBA and mail server with smail and qpopper. The Internet
connection is done automatically by a cron job every 30 minutes (only 8 to
20 in the other hours only once in a hour) over an ISDN Sync-PPP connection
(with an external ELSA MicroLink TLpro terminal adapter). The machine is our
DNS server too.

To your second question, you should choose internet site as smail's default
config profile. The other configuration (smail, pppd, DNS, SAMBA) is more
fine tuning (e.g. I've configure smail to keep a copy of every mail, which
is send or received by the server).

BTW - We have a own internet domain which is served by one provider, and an
mail account at an other provider. The mail account is a multidrop mailbox
for the whole domain . This means, that no user id
checking is done at the providers box. Every mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gets to our server, and when the user is unknown, it is send to our
postmaster account. The mails are retrieved by fetchmail in multidrop mode.

What we don't have is a internet connection for the users. We don't want
this, and I think, that eMail is enough for our users.

If you want to get my config files (as an example) mail me at work at
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and I will send you copies of the files. 

It would be a pleasure to me to help you with your prob.

Bye

Daniel

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Re: simple smail questions

1998-03-28 Thread Rob Browning
Otavio Exel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> - I saw a message here stating (not in these words) that "smail is dead;
>   use exim instead"; is it true? I can see that smail is still
>   (according to Debian) the "reccomended MTA for Debian"! note that I'm
>   not spam-asking which one you use! :-)

I have no idea if smail is "dead", but there has been some discussion
about making exim the default mailer.  Personally, I use exim.  I
started with sendmail, switched to qmail, realized that qmail was
likely to stay non-free, and then switched to exim, which has worked
quite well.

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AMD K6/233 again

1998-03-28 Thread M.C. Bezemer
I didn't read all your postings before previous message, but my
second question about the P166+ was based on rumours I heard here.
I didn't quite believe it, but just to be sure...

By the way, it was about one of the first P166+ , no mmx , no nothing
processors. (As far as I knew -before some told me about it- they
sould just work fine. Well, that seems to be the case.)

Greetings,
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Re: POP3 with Qmail

1998-03-28 Thread wtopa

Subject: POP3 with Qmail
Date: Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 01:21:42PM +0200

In reply to:Pasi Kärkkäinen

Quoting Pasi Kärkkäinen([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> Hi! 
> I've installed Qmail 1.01 and it works fine. My users want to read their
> mail via POP3 and via pine in shell. So I need to find solution to this
> problem. 
> 
> If I use Qmail's POP3 daemon, it supports only Maildirs and Pine
> does NOT support maildirs? Is there some patch for pine to make it support
> maildirs?
> 

 Check out mutt. It handles both mbox and Maildirs.  There was a patch
mentioned on that list for pine.


> If I deliver mail to homedirectory Mailboxes, pine works fine but where
> can I find *working* POP3 daemon that can read mail from homedirectory
> mailboxes? Qpopper should can do it, but If I compile it with
> -DHOMEDIRMAIL (or something like that) it works, but it still requires
> /var/spool/mail (it stores lock-files there). And I needed to do some
> other code-hacking before Qpopper worked, so Is there "official" version
> of some POP3-daemon that supports homedirectory mailboxes?
> 

  Ask this question on the qmail list. The Qmail Guru's are all there!
  see www.qmail.org.
 
> 
> -Pasi Karkkainen   
> 
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Re: HP T1000E tape drive

1998-03-28 Thread wtopa

Subject: HP T1000E tape drive
Date: Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 11:17:22AM -0500

In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> I own a HP T1000E tape drive (runs off the lpt1 port). And I am
> wondering if there is anyway to get it to run with debian gnu linux. 
> 
> 
> Please help me.
> 

  Try reading /usr/doc/faq/howto/ftape for starters.

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Re: mail server

1998-03-28 Thread wtopa

Subject: mail server
Date: Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 07:31:19PM +1000

In reply to:Daniel Quinlan

Quoting Daniel Quinlan([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> hi,
>I'm setting up a debian box which will act as the internet connection 
> and mail server. 
>What I'd like to do is have all mail delivered to the debian box be
> retrieved by the user via POP3 and all mail sent from users (from their
> win95 desktops) forwarded by the mail server to a smarthost.
> 
>Now when I go to install the standard mail server (smail?) it offers
> a couple of choices, I'm not sure which one would be appopriate.
> 
> Any help appreciated,
>


May I suggest www.qmail.org.  Forget Smail & Sendmail and get a good
MTA. Check the archives of the qmail list.  There are Debian users
that have qmail running, even tho it is not a debian package.  Save
yourself a LOT of grief! Use qmail!


Wayne


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Re: keyboard config - what's with in OOTB bash ?

1998-03-28 Thread wtopa

Subject: keyboard config - what's with  in OOTB bash ?
Date: Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 12:32:45PM -0700

In reply to:kurt klingbeil

Quoting kurt klingbeil([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> What I'm really dying to know, is why the Home, End, and Del keys
> are not config'ed, out of the box, to do the right things in bash.
> Shit, it's hard to take that doskey would out-function bash in _any_
> respects.   Of course, one could use ^a, ^e, and ??,  and/or dig out
> the keymapping docs and try to rectify that, but I must have some 
> kinda mental block about it and can't believe it doesn't bug
> everyone else and at least one person enough to have fixed it. 
> 
> Maybe I've just been using Gatesware too much ??
> It does seem like a basic completeness issue.
> 
> I've just started using debian.  It's very cool!
> 
> kk
> 


Kurt

  I suggest that for answers to the above and other newbie questions
you take a look at www.ssc.com/lg/.  The Linux Gazzete has the answers
to MANY such questions and is a very good tool.  For the answer to
your above question, look at Issue #6, Jan 1996 - Using ther KeyPad as
a VT Switcher.  As I recall, that article covers what you are asking
about.  That, and many other articles, will be time well spent.


Wayne 

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Re: AMD K6 233 (2)

1998-03-28 Thread M.C. Bezemer

Well, thanks to all, I'm gonna buy it (at least as soon as
I have enough money together, but that should be quite soon)

Greetings,
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Installing Mouse Driver

1998-03-28 Thread John Wingfield
I am a new user of Debian Linux.  After much guesswork I have managed to
install Debian and XFree86 (not provided with the CD).

Unfortunately when installing Debian I could not include a mouse driver
in the kernal because some a "device in use" error.  As a consequence I
cannot use XFree86.

Can anyone offer me some advice on how to retrospectively install a
mouse driver?

John Wingfield

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jdk1.1-runtime

1998-03-28 Thread Jeff Shilt
  I just downloaded biss-awt_0.87-1 and the web page says there are no
depends, etc but during installation I found out it needs jdk1.1-runtime.
Where is this package? Does jdk1.1-dev provide this or should I just
ignore depends?


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Re: Ooooh A new HDD!

1998-03-28 Thread wtopa

Subject: Re: Ooooh A new HDD!
Date: Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 10:20:19AM +1200

In reply to:Michael Beattie

Quoting Michael Beattie([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> On Fri, 27 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > > > As for making it appear as part of the original drive, that is what
> > > > /etc/fstab is for.
> > > 
> > > Yes, but I meant this:
> > > 
> > > current: 195MB
> > > new: 106MB
> > > 
> > > add: 301MB
> > > 
> > > so that it appears the drive now has 301 MB. I think this is something you
> > > have to compile into the kernel? CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD ?
> > > 
> > 
> > No, the kernel does not have to be recompiled when you add new disks.
> > 
> > If you want to put /usr/local on a New (empty) disk partition.
> > 
> >  1.  mke2fs /dev/???
> >  2.  mount /dev/??? /mnt
> >  3.  ( cd /usr/local ; tar clf - . ) | ( cd /mnt ; tar xvpBf - )
> >#3 copies all files from /usr/local to /dev/??? (which will
> >become the New /usr/local
> >  4. varify the #3 did it correctly  - diff -r /usr/local /mnt
> >  5.  edit /etc/fstab - add the new partition
> >  ie   /dev/hdb1/usr/local   ext2defaults   1   2
> >  6. Now delete the OLD /usr/local directory.  cd /usr ; rm -rf ./local
> >  7. umount /mnt   ( not really necessary )
> >  8. Now reboot the system & enjoy your new drive.
> 
> I dont know how to explain myself better! I already know of this method,
> (thanks for the step by step, I didnt know how to do it..) but what I
> meant was that there was something about "multidisk" support or something
> in the kernel config, that made the drive to appear as ONE 301MB drive..
> something to do with RAID I think, there is also a package in bo, mdutils,
> which I think I need to use:
> 

Michael

  Sorry about my misunderstanding you.  I have never used, or
thought of using mdutils.  I see no advantange to it.
 
 I have had 3 drives (2 IDE, 1 SCSI) connected at the same time.  All
of the drives were 1 Gig or more and I had various partitions mounted
on all of them.  As far as Linux is concerned, they were one drive.  As
long as the partition was in fstab, I never had to do anything more
then say 'cp xyx /downloads'  and the file xyz would be copied to the
drive (hda, hdb or sda) that I had the /downloads partition on.  So,
as I see it, The 3 drives ARE one file system.

  Now I realize that this is NOT the same as what mdutils calls one drive.
But as far as I am concerned it works the same and is very easy to
understand.  There may be good reasons to use mdutils (as I said, I
have never looked into it ) but I would not think it would offer ANY
advantage unless your drives were large (over 1 Gig).  Raid with 300
Meg of HD makes no sense to me at all.


> --
> mdutils - Multiple Device driver utilities
> 
> The Multiple Device driver's main goal is to group several disks or
> partitions together, making them look like a single block device.
> 
> With 1.3.60ish kernels configured appropriately you can concatenate
> partitions and/or stripe data across disks.  New (very alpha) kernel
> drivers allow raid1 and raid5, providing mirroring and so forth.
> 
> This package contains the utilities for managing these features.
> --
> 
> Another thing, I use fdisk or cfdisk to create a full partition on the
> drive, and then mke2fs it, and the partition disappears, but can still be
> mounted.. whats wrong here? I suppose I should mention it is connected to my
> sound card, as I have one IDE port on my IO card, and that has my first HDD
> and my CD-ROM, the first HDD does not 'like' having a slave for some reason.
> so the sound card systemseems to work fine.. comes out as /dev/hdc
> 
> fdisk:
> 
> --
> ROOT- /root > fdisk /dev/hdc
> 
> Command (m for help): p
> 
> Disk /dev/hdc: 12 heads, 17 sectors, 1024 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 204 * 512 bytes
> 
>Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/hdc111 1024   104439+  83  Linux native
> 
> Command (m for help):
> --
> 
> then I mke2fs it:
> 
> --
> ROOT- /root > fdisk /dev/hdc
> Warning: invalid flag  of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)
> 
> Command (m for help): p
> 
> Disk /dev/hdc: 12 heads, 17 sectors, 1024 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 204 * 512 bytes
> 
>Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
> 
> Command (m for help):
> --

I hope that you are leaving out some steps in the above (for brevity)
as it won't work as you have writted it.

1.  After you have created the partition did you do 'v'?  If you had
  it would have told you that the '+' after 104439 Blocks indicated a
  problem. Might work anyway but you should check this.
2.  You did not say that you did 'w', to write the partition data.  If
  you didn't, that is why the next fdisk doesn't show it.  It isn't
  there!
3. Did mke2fs look like it was doing what it should?
4. Have you tried writing to that partition?  ie mount /dev/hdc /mnt ;
  cp anything /mnt ; ls /mnt .  Does 

Re: I can't connect modem

1998-03-28 Thread aqy6633
> I've got Netscape,  Internet server, Modem and Debian's CD.
> I want to know how to do to connect Internet .
> Thank you.

First of all, please use debian-user@lists.debian.org for this kind of
questions.

Second, if you just want to install Debian, please consult the following
page: http://www.debian.org/doc/
If you already installed Debian and want to connext to your ISP using PPP,
first read /usr/doc/ppp/README.debian and follow instructions.
In case of any problem, post your questions on debian-user with
description of specific problem you have.

Good luck.

Alex Y.

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screen

1998-03-28 Thread snake

hi
debian screen package has some strange feature
the package is: screen_3.7.2-2.deb

its a strange feature... when i change screens too fastly
(like milliseconds per window), it simply supresses display for the middle
windows... it only shows the first and the last window i change to...
anyone know how to enable that in the new screen versions installation files?

thanks for your attention



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Re: menus don't show up in hamm

1998-03-28 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 09:00:44AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> [no menus with afterstep or windowmaker]
> 


> :cp -a /usr/share/GNUstep ~

Thanks, Ray.  That fixes afterstep.  I'll RTM on windowmaker to see if
something similar is needed there.

Bob


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Re: Design of Debian web site

1998-03-28 Thread Kenneth L. Summers
> Hi!
> 
> The last times I visited the Debian web site I had to realize that it is
> not very impressing concerning design and structure. Especially in
> design the sites of FreeBSD, The GNOME Project, KDE, Red Hat, etc. have
> a lot more to offer.
> 
> Of course web page design is not the most important thing about Debian
> but as the web site is in most cases the first contact with Debian I
> consider it important to have a professional, serious looking
> appearance.
> 
> Moreover I think the strucure could be improved. I think 16 items in the
> main menu are too many and most of them would fit in a top level
> category.
> 
> To make it more clear what I mean: I think of home page with a
> navigation bar on the left and a text column on the right. The
> navigation bar should contain a maximum of about 6 top level categories
> like About, News, Support, Development... each with its second level
> categories. The text column could contain a brief description of what
> Debian is, the latest news article or other related stuff. And to make
> it perfect one could add a nice banner containing the logo and the text
> "Debian GNU/Linux".
> 
> All other pages could contain a smaller version of the banner and a
> navigation bar on the top with only the top level categories. The whole
> thing could be colored in white / red / dark blue like the logo.
> 
> What do you think about this? I would be happy to hear your opinions. If
> there is enough positive feedback I can create a rough prototype of what
> I think of.
> 
> Bye,
> Thomas
> 
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I would have to disagree.  I like it the way it is.  It is simple, elegant,
and I don't have to search through five screens to find what I want.  As for
professional:  I've seen plenty of "professional" sites that are cluttered,
take *way* to long to download, and are hard to use.

I would agree that a little more color and contrast might be nice (it is
pretty white), and a unified structure (i.e., banners that match on every
page, etc.) is a good thing.  But I have to think that the basic structure
is pretty good the was it is.

But I am glad somebody still looks at these things :)

Ken


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help ?

1998-03-28 Thread Regis Hautière




My system(386 with 6Mo of RAM) stop during the 
installation from the rescue disk after the floppy drive detection.
 
What is going wrong ? Any hardware 
incompatibility ?
 
How can I make it continue ?
 
Thanks for your help
 
Sincerly.
RH.


Design of Debian web site

1998-03-28 Thread Thomas Apel
Hi!

The last times I visited the Debian web site I had to realize that it is
not very impressing concerning design and structure. Especially in
design the sites of FreeBSD, The GNOME Project, KDE, Red Hat, etc. have
a lot more to offer.

Of course web page design is not the most important thing about Debian
but as the web site is in most cases the first contact with Debian I
consider it important to have a professional, serious looking
appearance.

Moreover I think the strucure could be improved. I think 16 items in the
main menu are too many and most of them would fit in a top level
category.

To make it more clear what I mean: I think of home page with a
navigation bar on the left and a text column on the right. The
navigation bar should contain a maximum of about 6 top level categories
like About, News, Support, Development... each with its second level
categories. The text column could contain a brief description of what
Debian is, the latest news article or other related stuff. And to make
it perfect one could add a nice banner containing the logo and the text
"Debian GNU/Linux".

All other pages could contain a smaller version of the banner and a
navigation bar on the top with only the top level categories. The whole
thing could be colored in white / red / dark blue like the logo.

What do you think about this? I would be happy to hear your opinions. If
there is enough positive feedback I can create a rough prototype of what
I think of.

Bye,
Thomas


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Re: menus don't show up in hamm

1998-03-28 Thread jdassen
On Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 09:00:44AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
[no menus with afterstep or windowmaker]

>From afterstep's post-install script:
:There are many changes between version 1.0.x of AfterStep and version 1.4.
:Version 1.4 is smaller, faster, and does a great deal more.  However, the
:files it uses have changed significantly and you need to pay attention if
:you expect afterstep to work.
:A /usr/share/GNUstep directory has been created with many support files for
:AfterStep.  To get the most out of AfterStep, and get the menu to work, you
:*must* copy the entire directory structure to your home directory with the
:following command:
:cp -a /usr/share/GNUstep ~
:Exit AfterStep (or whatever window manager you are using).
:When you restart, the Debian Menu will work, and you will be able to choose
:different looks and feels from the menu. You can create your own looks and
:feels, the syntax is the same from afterstep 1.0.  The issue is that
:afterstep 1.0 used one file whereas afterstep 1.4 uses many.  It is highly
:recommended that you read the documentation in /usr/doc/afterstep.

HTH,
Ray
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HP T1000E tape drive

1998-03-28 Thread sreenath
I own a HP T1000E tape drive (runs off the lpt1 port). And I am
wondering if there is anyway to get it to run with debian gnu linux. 


Please help me.


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Re: X won't connect!

1998-03-28 Thread Paul Miller
> 
> Last time I got this error is when I recompiled kernel with gcc 2.8.1 and 
> libstdc++.
> Switching back to g(cc/++)2.7.2 make the problem disappear and 2.0.33. You 
> should note
> however that I'm running the XF86_Mach32 server.
> 

That was the problem.  Recompiling the kernel with 2.7.2.3 also stopped
hwclock from seg.faulting.  Thanks

-Paul


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Re: ftp.debian.org status?

1998-03-28 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Randy Edwards wrote:

>I finally got my Linux box back up after motherboard problems and
> so the first thing I wanted to do was to update my old copy of hamm.
> However, when I ran dselect to grab updates I find that the package
> lists from ftp.debian.org are mangled or bad and only list a few
> packages in them (for example, I don't think "base" is an obsolete
> package:-).
> 
>Anyone know what's up with ftp.debian.org?  Have the directories
> and/or status of hamm changed?  Thanks in advance.

Use "frozen" instead of "unstable".  This changed a few days ago.

Bob


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Re: What's /dev/dsp device?

1998-03-28 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Art Lemasters wrote:
> 
> >  When I accessed a particular www server with Netscape, it
> > tried to open /dev/dsp (unsuccessfully).  What's /dev/dsp?
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Art
> 
> I believe it's a sound device (like /dev/audio). The server must have been
> trying to play you a sound file. If you don't have sound enabled in your
> kernel, it won't work, obviously ;-]

And if you do, you need to add the user to the audio group.

Bob


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menus don't show up in hamm

1998-03-28 Thread Bob Nielsen
In a recent hamm upgrade, I find that the menus don't show up in either
afterstep or windowmaker.  This was working for me before I reinstalled
and I can't find any bugs filed.  

Windowmaker only shows the xterm and exit commands on the menu, while
afterstep shows several others, but none of the packages I have installed
show up even though the files exist in /usr/lib/menu and update-menus has
been run.

Are others seeing this also?

Bob


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Re: mail server

1998-03-28 Thread Greg Green
I am currently using smail with qpopper for doing almost exactly what you are
wanting to do.  The only difference is that I have a seperate router for my
internet connection.  Which questions are you not sure about?



Daniel Quinlan wrote:

> hi,
>I'm setting up a debian box which will act as the internet connection
> and mail server.
>What I'd like to do is have all mail delivered to the debian box be
> retrieved by the user via POP3 and all mail sent from users (from their
> win95 desktops) forwarded by the mail server to a smarthost.
>
>Now when I go to install the standard mail server (smail?) it offers
> a couple of choices, I'm not sure which one would be appopriate.
>
> Any help appreciated,
>
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Re: POP3 with Qmail

1998-03-28 Thread Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues
Pasi Kärkkäinen writes:

[snip]

 > If I use Qmail's POP3 daemon, it supports only Maildirs and Pine
 > does NOT support maildirs? Is there some patch for pine to make it support
 > maildirs?

Yes, I think you can find a pointer to it at www.qmail.org. As an alternative,
you can use the '/var/qmail/bin/pinq' wrapper, it converts a Maildir to
Mailbox and execs pine.

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Re: ext2fs resize?

1998-03-28 Thread Ralph Winslow
Waye-Ian CHIEW wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> I'm presently trying to shuffle and resize several partitions on a disk device
> without losing data.

My answer to this is NOT authoritative, that is, I haven't looked at the
code.
However, in general, partitioning doesn't move data about; it merely
updates
a small file which delineates the sets of diskblocks that comprise each 
partition.  The filesystem lays out the the blocks of its partition in
accordance with it's policy - the filesystem on /proc is very different
to 
those on /usr, or /, or /var which are in turn very different from that
on
/msdos.  The *nix data partitions (/, /usr, /var, etc.) are layed out
with a 
set of i-nodes at the beginning of the partition (or sets of i-nodes
scattered 
throughout) each of which point to the individual blocks (or sets of
blocks) 
which hold the file.  The policy (or format) for msdos is very
different, and
unknown to me, as are the formats of /proc, etc.  Thus partitions aren't
easily 
moved or combined without foreknowledge of the format of the content. 
Thus, 
you need to backup each of the partitions involved, re-partition, and
restore 
the backups to the now empty, new, partitions. HTH.
> 
> Can the ext2fs resize itself?
> That is, can the filesystem shrink or grow in size to accommondate a resized
> partition?  Is there a tool to do this?
> 
> Can the ext2fs move itself?
> If the whole filesystem is moved up or down (relative to the start of the
> partition), will it still work?
> 
> -- Ian!!
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RE: the install that never was

1998-03-28 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Þann 28-Mar-98 skrifar Wolf Logan:
> 
> Any other options? Any possible leads on why this is going on? I don't mean
> to sound ungrateful (I understand this software is free), but it strikes me
> as a little unfriendly for the installation floppy to be completely unable
> to boot. I've scanned the archives, and while I'm not the first person to
> have trouble like this during an install, I didn't find any solutions.
> 
  I haven't followed up on this thread, but could you tell me what system
you are using? the details?


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Re: the install that never was

1998-03-28 Thread Ralph Winslow
Wolf Logan wrote:
> 
> Well, I just tried booting with a RedHat boot floppy. It reboots before it's
> done, too. I also tried a FreeBSD floppy (I really want *some* kind of
> Unix-alike running here!), and while it booted and ran fine with no trouble,
> it couldn't recognize my serial ports.

If you're the dude with the Tecra, someone posted the answer in the last
day
or two, if not, some information on your hardware configuration would be
helpful.
> 
> So...what would y'all say my options are from here?
> 
> 1) Give up, and don't use Linux (a last resort, I'd hope)
> 2) Find boot floppies that'll work with my machine (would require a kind
> soul with a working system to help me out, I'm sure)
> 3) Find out why my system doesn't get along with Linux
> 4) Find another free Unix-alike to run (FreeBSD is still possible, but I'll
> need to twiddle with its serial recognition)
> 
> Any other options? Any possible leads on why this is going on? I don't mean
> to sound ungrateful (I understand this software is free), but it strikes me
> as a little unfriendly for the installation floppy to be completely unable
> to boot. I've scanned the archives, and while I'm not the first person to
> have trouble like this during an install, I didn't find any solutions.
> 
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Re: imake madness

1998-03-28 Thread Ralph Winslow
Christopher J. McNicholas wrote:
> 
> In regards to an earlier post I downloaded and installed a C
> interpreter.
> Now I get  messages indicating several missing includes such as:
> 
> /usr/include/sys/time.h:6: linux/time.h: No such file or directory
> 
> However, when I look in /usr/include/sys, there *is* a time.h file.
> But what the hell is linux/time.h referring to?!?!

It's referring to /usr/include/sys/linux/time.h which should be a link
to /usr/src/linux/include IIRC.  The sixth line of 
/usr/include/sys/time.h has something like #include "linux/time.h".
HTH

What are the advantages of a C interpreter???
> 
> > From:  Self 
> > To:debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject:   imake madness
> > Date:  Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:10:12
> 
> > I need help...again.
> >
> > I'm trying to get the enlightenment window manager on my box. I
> > followed the instructions for installing ImageMagick and I made sure
> > imake was installed (came with X 3.3). Next step was supposed to be
> > imlib. imlib does not come as a binary, so I have to compile it.
> > Here's where it gets messy...
> > I untarred the file into /usr/local/src ( had to mkdir the src
> > directory). Then I ran   xmkmf -a   (this is the second time)
> > instead of moving on to the make  part, I got the following message:
> >
> > mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak
> > imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
> > imake : No such file or directory
> > imake : Cannot exec /lib/cpp.
> > Stop.
> > imake : Exit code 1.
> > Stop.
> >
> > (BTW, I'm using gcc)
> >
> > What's wrong with my setup??
> >
> 
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ftp.debian.org status?

1998-03-28 Thread Randy Edwards
   I finally got my Linux box back up after motherboard problems and
so the first thing I wanted to do was to update my old copy of hamm.
However, when I ran dselect to grab updates I find that the package
lists from ftp.debian.org are mangled or bad and only list a few
packages in them (for example, I don't think "base" is an obsolete
package:-).

   Anyone know what's up with ftp.debian.org?  Have the directories
and/or status of hamm changed?  Thanks in advance.

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Re: X won't connect!

1998-03-28 Thread Fabien Ninoles
> On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 06:48:20PM -0500, Paul Miller wrote:
> > I started getting these errors after upgrading some recent packages:
> > 
> > Operating System: Linux 2.0.32 i686 [ELF]
> > ^ what is this?  I'm running
> > kernel 2.0.33 and have a i586!
>
> It seems to be the platform that the server was built on, not currently
> running on. My bo system says:
>
> XFree86 Version 3.3 / X Window System
> (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
> Release Date: Jun  2 1997
> If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
> than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
> problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
> Operating System: Linux 2.0.21 i486 [ELF]
> Configured drivers:
>   S3: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0)
>   newmmio, mmio_928, s3_generic
> (using VT number 7)
>
> Why do you think it matters anyway?
>
> > (**) FontPath set to
> > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/"
> > _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> > giving up.
> > xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
> > xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
> > 
> > Any ideas?  I'm using the XF86_S3 server.
>
> Check your permissions on /tmp, should be rwxrwxrwxt.
>

Last time I got this error is when I recompiled kernel with gcc 2.8.1 and 
libstdc++.
Switching back to g(cc/++)2.7.2 make the problem disappear and 2.0.33. You 
should note
however that I'm running the XF86_Mach32 server.


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Re: imake madness

1998-03-28 Thread jdassen
On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 10:10:07PM +, Christopher J. McNicholas wrote:
> I'm trying to get the enlightenment window manager on my box. I followed
> the instructions for installing ImageMagick and I made sure imake was
> installed (came with X 3.3). Next step was supposed to be imlib. imlib
> does not come as a binary, so I have to compile it.

imlib packages have recently been created. They are probably in unstable or
frozen by now.

> imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
> imake : No such file or directory
> imake : Cannot exec /lib/cpp.

xlib6g-dev (which in frozen contains imake) is missing a dependency on cpp.
I've just reported this as a bug.

On Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 12:55:00AM +, Christopher J. McNicholas wrote:
> /usr/include/sys/time.h:6: linux/time.h: No such file or directory
> 
> However, when I look in /usr/include/sys, there *is* a time.h file.
> But what the hell is linux/time.h referring to?!?!

I noticed xlib6g-dev doesn't depend on libc6-dev either (now reported too).
Do you have that installed?

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POP3 with Qmail

1998-03-28 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
Hi! 
I've installed Qmail 1.01 and it works fine. My users want to read their
mail via POP3 and via pine in shell. So I need to find solution to this
problem. 

If I use Qmail's POP3 daemon, it supports only Maildirs and Pine
does NOT support maildirs? Is there some patch for pine to make it support
maildirs?

If I deliver mail to homedirectory Mailboxes, pine works fine but where
can I find *working* POP3 daemon that can read mail from homedirectory
mailboxes? Qpopper should can do it, but If I compile it with
-DHOMEDIRMAIL (or something like that) it works, but it still requires
/var/spool/mail (it stores lock-files there). And I needed to do some
other code-hacking before Qpopper worked, so Is there "official" version
of some POP3-daemon that supports homedirectory mailboxes?

-Pasi Karkkainen   

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Re: crash & burn win95 splashscreen

1998-03-28 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 12:35:17AM +1200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Last year, I think it was, someone mentioned a crash & burn win95 logo
> splash screen. Does anyone know where it is (I've tried to look for it,
> but there are a *lot* of win95 startup screens)? 
> 
> This is actually the second time I've asked. I'm just useless, I guess :]

I've got that one - I've emailed it to you (ZIPped rather than gzipped)

Enjoy

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mail server

1998-03-28 Thread Daniel Quinlan
hi,
   I'm setting up a debian box which will act as the internet connection 
and mail server. 
   What I'd like to do is have all mail delivered to the debian box be
retrieved by the user via POP3 and all mail sent from users (from their
win95 desktops) forwarded by the mail server to a smarthost.

   Now when I go to install the standard mail server (smail?) it offers
a couple of choices, I'm not sure which one would be appopriate.

Any help appreciated,
   
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ext2fs resize?

1998-03-28 Thread Waye-Ian CHIEW
Hello!


I'm presently trying to shuffle and resize several partitions on a disk device
without losing data.

Can the ext2fs resize itself?
That is, can the filesystem shrink or grow in size to accommondate a resized
partition?  Is there a tool to do this?

Can the ext2fs move itself? 
If the whole filesystem is moved up or down (relative to the start of the
partition), will it still work?

-- Ian!!


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the install that never was

1998-03-28 Thread Wolf Logan
Well, I just tried booting with a RedHat boot floppy. It reboots before it's
done, too. I also tried a FreeBSD floppy (I really want *some* kind of
Unix-alike running here!), and while it booted and ran fine with no trouble,
it couldn't recognize my serial ports.

So...what would y'all say my options are from here?

1) Give up, and don't use Linux (a last resort, I'd hope)
2) Find boot floppies that'll work with my machine (would require a kind
soul with a working system to help me out, I'm sure)
3) Find out why my system doesn't get along with Linux
4) Find another free Unix-alike to run (FreeBSD is still possible, but I'll
need to twiddle with its serial recognition)

Any other options? Any possible leads on why this is going on? I don't mean
to sound ungrateful (I understand this software is free), but it strikes me
as a little unfriendly for the installation floppy to be completely unable
to boot. I've scanned the archives, and while I'm not the first person to
have trouble like this during an install, I didn't find any solutions.

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Re: Hi im Sandra

1998-03-28 Thread tmalloy
Golly this Debian stuff is great!  Not only do I get to learn all about
 Unix, but now really neat girls want to be my friend.  I can hardly
wait to open tomorrows mail.  Thanks to everyone



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Re: What's /dev/dsp device?

1998-03-28 Thread AJT60
On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Art Lemasters wrote:

>  When I accessed a particular www server with Netscape, it
> tried to open /dev/dsp (unsuccessfully).  What's /dev/dsp?
> Thanks.
> 
> Art

I believe it's a sound device (like /dev/audio). The server must have been
trying to play you a sound file. If you don't have sound enabled in your
kernel, it won't work, obviously ;-]

Andrew


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Mailing List Archive Search Works

1998-03-28 Thread Guy Maor
The search engine works again.  My apologies for the long downtime.


Guy


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Re: debian not working on a PC without math copro

1998-03-28 Thread shaul
Isn't math emulation done by the instalation kernel ? 

> a friend of mine was trying to install debina but unfortunately he
> couldn't because her machine didn't have a math coprocessors,do you know
> if there's installation disk for this,here's the spec of his machine:
> 
> Its a 486SL, with an award Bios - no coprocessor socket of course  It has
> 32MB of RAM, an Adaptec 1542 SCSI controller with a Seagate 2gig drive, a
> 1.44mb floppy, a generic VGA only video card (640x480x256 max), a Digiboard
> 8i 8-port serial adaptor, however I pulled that out, and a Etherlink III
> ISA 3Com ethernet card, to attach to the internal network in my house.  The
> CDROM (Toshiba 3401 1x) is mounted, but not connected.
> 
> It has a microsoft mouse compatible trackball built into the keyboard.
> 
> you can respond either to:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED](me)
> or
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (the friend in question)


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Re: Ooooh A new HDD!

1998-03-28 Thread Michael Beattie
On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, George Bonser wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
> 
> > I dont know how to explain myself better! I already know of this
> method,
> > (thanks for the step by step, I didnt know how to do it..) but what I
> > meant was that there was something about "multidisk" support or something
> > in the kernel config, that made the drive to appear as ONE 301MB drive..
> > something to do with RAID I think, there is also a package in bo, mdutils,
> > which I think I need to use:
> > 
> 
> No one is following you down this track because it is a very bad idea to
> do this in your particular case.  This is because, for example, if you
> fill the filesystem by untarring something huge in /usr or /var, you have
> now completely filled the ENTIRE filesystem and not even /tmp is writable.

Okay, that helps explain things a bit better, but In my case I am not
about to download let alone untar something huge...

> People have been trying to help you to partition your filesystem so that
> filling of one filesystem does not impact other filesystems. You can then
> combine devices later to make a larger /usr or /var or whatever but the
> first step is to break the directory structure up into completely
> different filesystems to make the overall system more robust.

Okay, But my problem is that I only have 301Mb available to linux at
present, so I would like it all together. I know it seems unwise, but
there is also not really a sensible way that I can see to split up my
system... my /usr is 125 MB, and the new(/old) HDD is only 106 MB.

> I usually break mine up as follows:
> 
> /
> /usr
> /usr/local
> /var
> /var/spool
> /var/spool/news
> /home
> /home/ftp

I guess that would be fine if I had a 100 Gig SCSI :) ... No I guess
(really this time) that I could do that, but it seems impractical when I
only have 301 MB

> I maintain these as separate filesystems with storage mounted under them.
> I could then use the md stuff to combine drives to make a larger
> /var/spool/news or a larger /home/ftp but in your case, first things
> first.

Well, I am only a home user, i.e. no news, www or ftp and for that matter,
only 2 users, so I see the md stuff to be a viable answer. I guess what I
am trying to say is that I dont really need a lot of disk space, but an
additional 100 MB would be nice.

   Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: imake madness

1998-03-28 Thread Christopher J. McNicholas
In regards to an earlier post I downloaded and installed a C 
interpreter.
Now I get  messages indicating several missing includes such as:

/usr/include/sys/time.h:6: linux/time.h: No such file or directory


However, when I look in /usr/include/sys, there *is* a time.h file.
But what the hell is linux/time.h referring to?!?!



> From:  Self 
> To:debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:   imake madness
> Date:  Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:10:12

> I need help...again.
> 
> I'm trying to get the enlightenment window manager on my box. I 
> followed the instructions for installing ImageMagick and I made sure 
> imake was installed (came with X 3.3). Next step was supposed to be 
> imlib. imlib does not come as a binary, so I have to compile it. 
> Here's where it gets messy...
> I untarred the file into /usr/local/src ( had to mkdir the src 
> directory). Then I ran   xmkmf -a   (this is the second time)  
> instead of moving on to the make  part, I got the following message:
> 
> mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak
> imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
> imake : No such file or directory
> imake : Cannot exec /lib/cpp.
> Stop.
> imake : Exit code 1.
> Stop.
> 
> (BTW, I'm using gcc)
> 
> What's wrong with my setup??
> 


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What's /dev/dsp device?

1998-03-28 Thread Art Lemasters
 When I accessed a particular www server with Netscape, it
tried to open /dev/dsp (unsuccessfully).  What's /dev/dsp?
Thanks.

Art


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Hi im Sandra

1998-03-28 Thread GILLILIGAN
 
--- Begin Message ---
hi my name is Sandra i am an 18 year old model from Italy..Me and my friends
made a webpage with our pictures on it...tell me if im pretty..

http://www.angelfire.com/nj/iconz/index.html";>Click here to see our
pictures
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Re: keyboard config - what's with in OOTB bash ?

1998-03-28 Thread Scott McDermott
kurt klingbeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 12:32:45PM -0700:
> What I'm really dying to know, is why the Home, End, and Del keys
> are not config'ed, out of the box, to do the right things in bash.

Respectively, these keys are mapped to the keysyms, Find, Select and
Remove.  I'm not sure what they do, but there surely is some reason for
these default mappings.

And why does the DOS way == the Right Thing ?  Personally I would hate
having to lift my fingers from their home-row positions to do things
like this.  I use a vi-style bash prompt (set -o vi) for this very
reason (and have remapped escape to the capslock key also).

> Shit, it's hard to take that doskey would out-function bash in _any_
> respects.

Heh.  It doesn't even come close.  If you want those keys to do that,
then you can configure them to do so local to bash's readline, or
globally, or whatever.

> kinda mental block about it and can't believe it doesn't bug
> everyone else and at least one person enough to have fixed it. 

Fix what is not broken?

> Maybe I've just been using Gatesware too much ??
> It does seem like a basic completeness issue.

Linux != DOS.  Similarly, readline != doskey (thank heavens!)

> I've just started using debian.  It's very cool!

Is this to be read that you've just started using Linux?  If so, then
this would explain your consternation.

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Re: AMD K6 233

1998-03-28 Thread George R
On 03/28/98 at 11:25 AM, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 01:18:08PM +0100, M.C. Bezemer wrote: > PS I also
>heard that linux also doesn't work 100% correct with a Cyrix > P166+
>(messing up disks etc) . What is true about that?

>Not very much, I think. Do you mean the Cyrix 6x86 (M1), or
>the 6x86MX, or maybe even just 6x86L? I've had an original 6x86-P166+
>(133MHz part) running 24x7 under Linux 2.0.32 for four or five months
>now, and I had the same CPU on a different motherboard in a dual boot
>NT/Linux system for another 8 months before that without incident.

Could M.C. be refering to needing to monkey with the CMOS while making the
install disks? Otherwise my PR166+ runs fine

George

Eschew obfuscation


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imake madness

1998-03-28 Thread Christopher J. McNicholas
I need help...again.

I'm trying to get the enlightenment window manager on my box. I 
followed the instructions for installing ImageMagick and I made sure 
imake was installed (came with X 3.3). Next step was supposed to be 
imlib. imlib does not come as a binary, so I have to compile it. 
Here's where it gets messy...
I untarred the file into /usr/local/src ( had to mkdir the src 
directory). Then I ran   xmkmf -a   (this is the second time)  
instead of moving on to the make  part, I got the following message:

mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak
imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
imake : No such file or directory
imake : Cannot exec /lib/cpp.
Stop.
imake : Exit code 1.
Stop.

(BTW, I'm using gcc)

What's wrong with my setup??


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[Majordomo] Howto setup?

1998-03-28 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
So I've installed majordomo on my machine after fixing my problems with
smail.  What should I be reading to configure majordomo and get it up and
running?

S.
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Re: LILO woes.

1998-03-28 Thread Joost Kooij
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

> Well, when it changes you've left an old LILO in your MBR, which is
> why it doesn't work. The new one is in your boot sector instead.
> You should be able to disk "FDISK /MBR" in DOS to reinstall a standard
> MBR, or install the mbr package I think, to replace it, then set your
> Linux root partition active.

IIRC just installing the mbr package doesn't fix your MBR. You have to do
what the /usr/sbin/liloconfig script would otherwise do for you (you can
do it with the script anyway I think.)

To install a pristine MBR on /dev/hda type this:

  dd if=/boot/mbr.b of=/dev/hda bs=444 count=1

After that you'll want to activate a partition. That is the partition that
holds the lilo partition boot sector. This can either be done
interactively with fdisk or on the command-line with the command
/sbin/activate that comes with the lilo package. 

To activate the first partition of /dev/hda type this:

  /sbin/activate /dev/hda 1

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: X won't connect!

1998-03-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 06:48:20PM -0500, Paul Miller wrote:
> I started getting these errors after upgrading some recent packages:
> 
> Operating System: Linux 2.0.32 i686 [ELF]
> ^ what is this?  I'm running
> kernel 2.0.33 and have a i586!

It seems to be the platform that the server was built on, not currently
running on. My bo system says:

XFree86 Version 3.3 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: Jun  2 1997
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.0.21 i486 [ELF]
Configured drivers:
  S3: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0)
  newmmio, mmio_928, s3_generic
(using VT number 7)

Why do you think it matters anyway?

> (**) FontPath set to
> "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/"
> _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> giving up.
> xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
> xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
> 
> Any ideas?  I'm using the XF86_S3 server.

Check your permissions on /tmp, should be rwxrwxrwxt.


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Re: AMD K6 233

1998-03-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 01:18:08PM +0100, M.C. Bezemer wrote:
> PS I also heard that linux also doesn't work 100% correct with a Cyrix
> P166+ (messing up disks etc) . What is true about that?

Not very much, I think. Do you mean the Cyrix 6x86 (M1), or
the 6x86MX, or maybe even just 6x86L? I've had an original 6x86-P166+
(133MHz part) running 24x7 under Linux 2.0.32 for four or five
months now, and I had the same CPU on a different motherboard in
a dual boot NT/Linux system for another 8 months before that without
incident.

I have a K6-166 that works fine too.

Hamish
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Re: LILO woes.

1998-03-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 06:41:09AM -0500, Ossama Othman wrote:
> For some reason, my old lilo.conf had /dev/hda as the boot device.  After
> I upgraded, the boot device changed to /dev/hda1, same as yours.  I had
> the same problems you did, i.e. LILO would never start completely.  Also,
> something similar happened to one of our SCSI setups.  I ended up doing
> the following then everything worked:

Well, when it changes you've left an old LILO in your MBR, which is
why it doesn't work. The new one is in your boot sector instead.
You should be able to disk "FDISK /MBR" in DOS to reinstall a standard
MBR, or install the mbr package I think, to replace it, then set your
Linux root partition active.


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