hamm installation- rescue disk kernel panic

[Donald Harter Jr.]

I was trying to install hamm.  I booted the rescue disk and I got a
kernel panic. (kernel panic: VFS unable to mount root fs on 01:00)

Here are the messages before the crash:

partition check
hda: hda1 hda2  hda3 hda4
[MS-DOS FS Rel. 12, FAT0 .]
[me=0x0,cs=0,hf=0,fs=0,fl=0,ds=0,de=0,data=0,se=0,
fs=0,ls=0,ro=0,fc=4264967295] transaction block size=512


I have got linux and vfat partitions on this disk.

If someone can refer me to some instructions on how this rescue disk is
made,  I may try to make a custom kernel that might work.

Donald Harter Jr.



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Re: Free/OpenSource software?

[Thomas Lakofski]

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 1. I am planning to write in Java. Does the fact that Sun seems to have
> control over the language itself affect the ability to apply the GPL or
> similar liscences to Java software? 

I don't believe the status of the language you code in affects whether you
can make your code GPL.  There are efforts underway anyway to make a GPL'd
java VM clone.

> 2. As I understand it, the GPL forbids use of your source code in closed
> source software. However, if an unscruplous individual were to do so
> anyway, how would you know since the individual's source would be
> closed? 

If you suspected this, there are ways in which it can be shown that your
code has been stolen, as was done when Microsoft stole Stacker technology
and called it Doublespace in DOS 6.2.  The risk of being caught is usually
enough deterrent, as if you were caught, the license terms of GPL'd
software would require the release of sources for all derivative works.

> 3. Is there any other major benefit to open source beside peer review?

How about:
- peer contribution, as well as review: your software will grow
'as if by magic' if it was interesting enough to begin with.

- many karmic bonus points for giving something back to the community
you've gained from.

- no negative effect upon your possible stream of revenue from providing
commercial support to users of your software who require it.  as was
pointed out by a free software advocate recently, software is a *service
industry*.  there's much more potential revenue from charging by the
hour/day for implementation/support of your software anyway, than there is
from getting $xxx per unit and then being obliged (unless you're a major
software company) to provide support for some period for free. 

I'm sure this is but a fraction of the arguments in support of releasing
your code under the GPL.  The best argument is to look at the most
notorious examples of proprietary and free software out there: Windows 9X,
and GNU/Linux.  No contest, really.

-thomas


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X session stays opened in utmp/wtmp

[Peter Paluch]

Hello friends,
==

could anybody help me with this problem? Every time when anybody logs
himself off XWindow, finger, who and last report him as a still
logged-on person, usually with a nonsensual idle time. Command w returns
everytime that there are n users, but lists only n-1 of them. The
missing one is that user who just left XWindow. When I reboot (and/or
delete the utmp/wtmp files), everything remains normal until somebody
logs into XWindow.

If someone else logs into XWindow, he replaces the previous "hanging"
user in all mentioned listings.

I'm using a hamm Debian, and a XWindow 3.3.1 . The computer has been
mistakenly shut down several times without a proper shutdown procedure. 

What am I doing wrong? I do not use that sessreg, it really doesn't make
things better. Maybe I should reinstall XWindow and/or my window
managers, but I want to know exactly where's the problem.

Any answers are well appreciated. CC replies to my personal e-mail are
welcome.

Thanks a lot in forward.

All the best,
Peter

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Free/OpenSource software?

[hospedales]

Hi, 
I am planning to start to write a piece of software in the near future,
and I am considering whether or not to make the source open when I do so. I
would appreciate any advice on pros and cons of having the source open.
I don't understand some free software people. To me computers
are tools to get a job done, if a proprietary source tool works best, i would
use it. As it stands, I use Linux because its better than Windoze et al. Anyway,
some questions.
1. I am planning to write in Java. Does the fact that Sun seems to have
control over the language itself affect the ability to apply the GPL or similar
liscences to Java software?
2. As I understand it, the GPL forbids use of your source code in closed source
software. However, if an unscruplous individual were to do so anyway, how would
you know since the individual's source would be closed?
3. Is there any other major benefit to open source beside peer review?

Thanks In Advance!
Timothy Hospedales

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Re: xdm and shutdown

[Thomas Lakofski]

shutdown -h 0?

just remember to save stuff first...

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Jorge Daniel Ruckj wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> How I do a shutdown if I use xdm?


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RE: Instaling Hamm.

[Liran Zvibel]

Well this is interesting, but I don't have enough space for this, thanks,
Liran Zvibel. 
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On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Patrick Ouellette wrote:

> I've found it comforting to have a backup of the system
> just in case.
> 
> As Will states, its not that difficult.
> 
> I use the following sequence:
> 
> create new partition
> make the ext2 filesystem on the new partition
> mount the partition on /mnt/
> cp -a //* /mnt/
> su -c "rm -R //*"   # be sure you want to delete everything
> enter the root password # you were sure weren't you?
> umount /mnt/
> mount new partition on /
> put entry in /etc/fstab so the system will mount it on reboot
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RE: Instaling Hamm.

[Patrick Ouellette]

I've found it comforting to have a backup of the system
just in case.

As Will states, its not that difficult.

I use the following sequence:

create new partition
make the ext2 filesystem on the new partition
mount the partition on /mnt/
cp -a //* /mnt/
su -c "rm -R //*"   # be sure you want to delete everything
enter the root password # you were sure weren't you?
umount /mnt/
mount new partition on /
put entry in /etc/fstab so the system will mount it on reboot


> -Original Message-
> From: Will Lowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 1998 3:59 PM
> To: Liran Zvibel
> Cc: Debian Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Instaling Hamm.
>
>
> On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Liran Zvibel wrote:
>
> > Please tell me, it doesn't seem logical. I want to change the size of
> > /usr and some other important partitions.
>
> You need a free partition -- essentially mount the free one,  cp -a all
> the /usr files onto it,  and delete the /usr partition,  using the new on
> as a /usr partition (mount it on /usr).  Then reformat /usr,  etc.,  and
> put all the files back on the new /usr partition.
>
> Do this for all the partitions you want to move,  resize,  etc. ...
>
>   Will
>
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xdm and shutdown

[Jorge Daniel Ruckj]

Hi all.

How I do a shutdown if I use xdm?

Thanks


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Re: linux shutdown

[Stephen Carpenter]

HAHA go ahead and use his system tho ;)
sync;sync;halt
is the same as sync;sync;shutdown -h now
on most systems now (at least on both RedHat and Debian it is)
Halt checks the current runlevel..and if the runlevel is not 0 then it executes
shutdown -h now on its own...this is a saftey catch
The OLD behaviour was that if you executed "halt" it would halt the system dead
right
thenm and there
this was very damaging to systems (unless you did sync;sync;halt..which as
you pointed out also has a little bug in it ...in that it can fail to work)
so in more recent versions both halt and reboot were given little
built in wrappers to make sure that they did no damage...
however I caution you not to sync;sync;halt
because its a bad habit..and on systems other than recent linuxes
it coul dbe bad
-Steve

Joey Hess wrote:

> Arunas Norvaisa wrote:
> >  Have RTFMing and am using 'shutdown -r now' to restart my system.
> > BUT our system (Netware/Unix) admin (really old and experienced
> > 'wolf') have told me that he's using 'sync;sync;halt' and have tried
> > to persuade me to use 'his' command.
>
> That method is pretty dumb for use on a multi-user system (just consider
> what happens if a process writes to disk between the last sync and the halt).
> If you go to single-user mode first, it's ok, but still not the best thing.
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Re: Instaling Hamm.

[Will Lowe]

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Liran Zvibel wrote:

> Please tell me, it doesn't seem logical. I want to change the size of
> /usr and some other important partitions.

You need a free partition -- essentially mount the free one,  cp -a all
the /usr files onto it,  and delete the /usr partition,  using the new on
as a /usr partition (mount it on /usr).  Then reformat /usr,  etc.,  and
put all the files back on the new /usr partition.  

Do this for all the partitions you want to move,  resize,  etc. ...

Will


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Re: linux shutdown

[Joey Hess]

Arunas Norvaisa wrote:
>  Have RTFMing and am using 'shutdown -r now' to restart my system.
> BUT our system (Netware/Unix) admin (really old and experienced
> 'wolf') have told me that he's using 'sync;sync;halt' and have tried
> to persuade me to use 'his' command.

That method is pretty dumb for use on a multi-user system (just consider
what happens if a process writes to disk between the last sync and the halt).
If you go to single-user mode first, it's ok, but still not the best thing.

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Re: Instaling Hamm.

[Liran Zvibel]

Please tell me, it doesn't seem logical. I want to change the size of
/usr and some other important partitions.

TIA,

Liran.
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On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Will Lowe wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Liran Zvibel wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > I want to install Hamm, but going to repartition my drive. I know that
> > I'll have to download the installation disks.
> > The question is: What if I keep '/' (It has '/', /boot and /etc) on? Will
> > I still need the foppies?
> You'll need to keep /etc,  /lib and a few others around.
> 
> If you can do it,  I'd recommend upgrading hamm and THEN repartitioning.
> If you have some free space on your drive,  I can tell you how to
> repartition without needing to reinstall.
> 
>   Will
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SMP Kernel 2.0.33 compile errors

[Pure Energy]

Hi all, (Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED], i'm currently off the list)

My current system :
Tyan TomcatIII Duel Board (S1563D)
Pentium Class 430 HX
2 Pentium 200 Non-MMX processors
64 mgs ram (mixed 70s/60s unfortunatly)
120 mgs swap partition
3 Hard Drives:
hda: Conner Peripherals 170MB w/32kB Cache (Win95)
hdb: WDC AC34000L, 3815MB w/256kB Cache (Linux 'root`)
hdc: QUANTUM LPS540A, 516MB w/96kB Cache (linux)
1 CD-Rom:
hdh: MATSHITA CR-581, ATAPI CDROM drive 
Sound Blaster 16 Card
All SCSI hardware removed


When compiling Linux version 2.0.33 without SMP support everything
going fine. But i run into an error with SMP support included. Durring the
compile it does the following: 
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/sound'
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -D__SMP__ -pipe -m486
-malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -D__SMP__
-c -o adlib_card.o adlib_card.c 
( Cut for shortness )
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -D__SMP__ -pipe -m486
-malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -D__SMP__
-c -o sound_switch.o sound_switch.c
sound_switch.c: In function `init_status':
sound_switch.c:97: parse error before `SOUND_CONFIG_DATE'
make[2]: *** [sound_switch.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/sound'
make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers'
make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
Root [/usr/src/linux]#> 

Now if i remove all sound support it gets this

make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/fs/fat'
( Cut for shortness )  
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -D__SMP__ -pipe -m486
-malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -D__SMP__
-c -o inode.o inode.c
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/atomic.h: In function `atomic_dec_and_test':
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:15,
 from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/locks.h:5,
 from inode.c:20:
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/atomic.h:62: parse error before `)'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/atomic.h:58: warning: unused variable `c'
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/atomic.h:63: warning: control reaches end of
non-void function
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/atomic.h: At top level:
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/atomic.h:63: parse error before `)'
make[3]: *** [inode.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/fs/fat'
make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/fs/fat'
make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/fs'
make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 
Root [/usr/src/linux]#>

Has anyone run into this problem? Should i continue to remove
non-essential support and see if works or can i assume it is something
else? Any help would appreciated with this.


--Rob


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Rmuser script?

[Shaleh]

DId anyone get a rmuser script created?
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Re: Lilo woes

[Stephen Carpenter]

I am an emacs user myself...when im in X anyway...
but...debian has a few other cool editors...
ae (which is part of the base and base disks) is tiny and very easy to use
(unfortunatly the lastest version in 2.0 has some problems...partially due to
slang -- which i just found out about a few minits ago in a post on 
debian-devel)

if you are using hamm...avoid ae for now ..it puts CRs atthe ends of lines (DOS
style text) and that breaks allot of things (not HTML...other things)
ee is very nice (ee = easy editor)
as for emacs...
when I think of emacs...I think of a swiss army knife
the differnec ebeing that this swiss army knife is about 3 miles long and half a
mile
wide..and has every tool you every thought of, along with every tool you will
ever
think of...it is complete overkill fo ranything...
but...I tend to like overkill :)
-Steve

Stephen A. Witt wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Tristan Day wrote:
>
> > Thanks to everyone who gave opinions and advice on the HTML editor. I can't
> > stand 'vi' (the DOS to Linux HOWTO is right when it says that DOS users
> > probably won't like vi! Is there a good tutorial? the man page assumes you
> > know it well), so when I get everything working again (see below) I think I
> > will have a look at  Netscape Composer. =)
> >
>
> At the risk of starting a HUGE flamewar, may I suggest that you look into
> other editors besides vi?  I personally am an emacs user and it is a very
> versatile and functional editor and I would recommend it highly.  There
> are, of course, other editors available besides vi and emacs (the big two
> in the Unix world) that you might like better.  In any case, you sure
> aren't stuck with vi unless you want to be.
>
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Re: COBOL?

[Stephen Carpenter]

Ive never seen any COBOL stuff...ive never even seen COBOL but its funny...
just yesterday I was wondering to myself if there were any COBOL
comilers for linux
Then I had some really evil thoughts about learning COBOL and trying to
convert the kernel over to COBOL...and after that point
I just had to smack myself
-Steve

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> Windoze NT4, and while it was still better then 95, I like Debian much
> better..
>
> 3. I was wondering if anyone knew of any COBOL packages available for
> Linux?
>
> Anyhow, thanks in advance for any help..
>
> Thanks again..
> Kurt
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Re: mars-nwe preliminary for slink

[Marcus Brinkmann]

On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 12:55:21AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> I've uploaded a preliminary package for mars-nwe (at long last)
> to my FTP server at ftp.rising.com.au, in directory /pub/hamish.

Hello Hamish!

Thank you very much for doing it (saves me some trouble 8-)! I'll get it and
make some testing, although I can't test the network functionality right
here (My home machine is not connected to a network).
 
> This is 0.99pl8 which requires no patches to get running on libc6,
> unlike previous editions. Thanks to Marcus for letting me know about
> this, and for making me get around to releasing the package.
> 
> Caveats: it spits out some ugly startup messages, which I haven't
> removed yet, so I'm not going to upload it to master just yet.
> Also, on my system, it still won't die -- I can't kill the thing,
> I even send it SIGSEGV and it just notes in the log and keeps running.

I'll give it a try and maybe look a bit into that. In the long run, it would
be nice to have also the free dos tools packaged (if they are worth it,
don't know), and have a small default configuration in /var/.../novell, to
which a sysadmin can link other dir's or filesystems into. Especially
section 1 could then provide a sensible default. Just an idea.

Thank you again!
Marcus
 

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Re: Lilo woes

[Stephen A. Witt]

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Tristan Day wrote:

> Thanks to everyone who gave opinions and advice on the HTML editor. I can't
> stand 'vi' (the DOS to Linux HOWTO is right when it says that DOS users
> probably won't like vi! Is there a good tutorial? the man page assumes you
> know it well), so when I get everything working again (see below) I think I
> will have a look at  Netscape Composer. =)
> 

At the risk of starting a HUGE flamewar, may I suggest that you look into
other editors besides vi?  I personally am an emacs user and it is a very
versatile and functional editor and I would recommend it highly.  There
are, of course, other editors available besides vi and emacs (the big two
in the Unix world) that you might like better.  In any case, you sure
aren't stuck with vi unless you want to be.



 


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Re: COBOL?

[jdassen]

On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 12:42:38PM -0400, K. Claussen wrote:
> 3. I was wondering if anyone knew of any COBOL packages available for
> Linux? 

See http://pw2.netcom.com/~wmklein/cobolfaq.htm#Section34
Also, there's "cobcy" on sunsite.unc.edu + mirrors, which IIRC translates
COBOL to C.

HTH,
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RE: COBOL?

[K. Claussen]

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Lewis, James M.  wrote:

Jim..

> COBOL! gag, choke..

Yes, my sentiments exactally.. However, since I need it to graduate, I
guess it's an evil that I must put up with for now. I wanted to save trips
running back and fourth to the lab. :)

> Seriously, I don't know of a compiler but I have a few
> things for emacs 19.34.  I picked a cobol mode (2 of them
> actually) off the net and hacked them up.  Added support
> in hilit19.  It's slow but pretty.  Let me know if you
> need them.

Actually, that would be quite nice, thanks.. 

> I don't know the language but I can tell you it's a pain
> to load a cobol program with oracle sql code in it!

Load? Try writing it in the first place.. 

Take care..
]

RE: COBOL?

[Lewis, James M.]

COBOL! gag, choke..

Seriously, I don't know of a compiler but I have a few
things for emacs 19.34.  I picked a cobol mode (2 of them
actually) off the net and hacked them up.  Added support
in hilit19.  It's slow but pretty.  Let me know if you
need them.

I don't know the language but I can tell you it's a pain
to load a cobol program with oracle sql code in it!

jim

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All..

Hello.. :) This message serves a few purposes, really..

1. I wanted to introduce myself as being new to the list. I have been
lurking around for the past week or so and I wanted to say hello. 

2. I wanted to say that I have been running Debian for about 2 weeks now
and I must say that I like it much better then Window$. I was running
Windoze NT4, and while it was still better then 95, I like Debian much
better..

3. I was wondering if anyone knew of any COBOL packages available for
Linux? 

Anyhow, thanks in advance for any help..

Thanks again..
Kurt

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Re: Debian 2.0 Question

[Stephen Carpenter]

you knowsince I have started using linux...I think my system as crashed
probably about 6 times give or take...
most all fo them were hardware!
Once I had exactly the problem you describe...my system was running...
doing "its thing" and power went out (while I wasn't home) then came on again
2 days later my kernel wouldn't recompile and my RAM tested bad
(and I could never get a DIMM to work in that mothboard)
then even before that I had my redhat system working as a server on the
network
ran for 68 days straight (thats only 68 because 68 days prior there was a power
outage) when my hard drive had a mechanical failure!
then about a month ago (same motherboard as earlier) my motherboard
stopped working right!
these have all been within the past 6 months!!!
only once did I have a software related crash...due to a package
I installed when I upgraded to unstable that was a very early releace and
caused my system to not unmount filesystems on reboot/halt
(so I started rebooting an alot trying to
track down the problem and debug it...killed my system)
any other crashes I have had were just plain my fault (ie forcing it to do 
something

that it warned me about while logged on as root)
The moral:
1) don't buy cheap hardware, pay the extra $20 to get the stuff that works
(ie stay away from BIOSTAR motherboards...buy ASUS
or when you se that 200 MHz processor packaged with a motherboard for a
mere $150 (at the time it was a VERY good price)...don't buy it!)
2) get a UPSthey are lifesavers (I got a nice one 1.5 kVA for under $300...
it has already saved my system 2 times!..only had it a month!)
3) when everything is working...be careful when you are root :)
-Steve

Michael Acklin wrote:

> At 10:58 AM 4/30/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> >I hate crashes/...had one too many myself
> >
>
> I did want to clear one thing up. It wasn't Debian that crashed. I 
> had a
> power off/on that caused the crash. Apparently, sendmail was delivering a
> message right in the middle of the power spike and took out just about all
> the exec files on my system.
>
> I have had no problems with Debian at all with system hangs or 
> crashes,
> other than something I did. I have been VERY Happy with linux and Debian.
> In fact I have had the system up without interuption for over 2 weeks.
> Can't say that about Windoze. I couldn't keep Win95 up over 4 hours without
> a crash.
>
> But thanks for all the messages and the help on this subject. I will 
> be
> finishing up this evening. Someone was mentioning that I should use the
> script to upgrade. But I have nothing on my system to upgrade, so thought
> instead of running the Debian 1.31 complete installation, I would go ahead
> and go to 2.0's installation disks.
> Again, thanks for all your help!
>
> 
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COBOL?

[K. Claussen]

All..

Hello.. :) This message serves a few purposes, really..

1. I wanted to introduce myself as being new to the list. I have been
lurking around for the past week or so and I wanted to say hello. 

2. I wanted to say that I have been running Debian for about 2 weeks now
and I must say that I like it much better then Window$. I was running
Windoze NT4, and while it was still better then 95, I like Debian much
better..

3. I was wondering if anyone knew of any COBOL packages available for
Linux? 

Anyhow, thanks in advance for any help..

Thanks again..
Kurt

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Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions

[C.J.LAWSON]

What are the permissions on /dev/ttyS0 ?

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On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:

> I have /dev/ttyS0 shown as belonging to group dialout and have added my
> username to the dialout group, but I get 
> 
> cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Permission denied
> 
> errors with both minicom and efax.  I'd rather not run these as root.  
> 
> Did I miss something?
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
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Re: network statistics

[Dale Martin]

Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there a way I can see how much information has been sent between my
> computer and another computer?
> 
> Thanks
> -Paul

There are various tools in the "netdiag" package that you can use to
monitor network activity.  Checkout "netwatch" in that package, for
instance.

Later,
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perl: problem with s/// and variable interpolation

[Yann Dirson]

Package: perl
Version: 5.004.04-3

I wrote a sample script whose behaviour seems strange to me.  At least
I can't find in the doc why it behaves so, nor what I should write to
get the expected result.

 The sample script
#!/usr/bin/perl

$TRANSLATION = '\1;$2';
$str = "ab";
$str =~ s{(.)(.)}{$TRANSLATION};
print $str . "\n";

$str = "ab";
$str =~ s{(.)(.)}{\1;$2};
print $str . "\n";
 Its output
\1;$2
a;b
 End of example

What I'd expect is that the 2 portions of this example would be
equivalent (I'd like to have $TRANSLATION provided from command-line).

Unfortunately, it seems that the variable expansion only occurs for
depth 1.  Though I finally found a paragraph that seems somewhat
relevant to this, I'm not satisfied with this behaves and I'd be
grateful to anyone who has a solution/workaround for this.

It seems a similar phenomenon occurs in the left-part of s///: a
variable contaning eg. "$1" will have problems as well, though in this
case "\1" will work:


$DUMMY = '$1';

$str = "aba";
$str =~ s{(.)(.)($DUMMY)}{$1;$2};
print $str . "\n";

$str = "aba";
$str =~ s{(.)(.)($1)}{$1;$2};
print $str . "\n";

aba
a;b


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Re: iBCS compiling

[Steve Izma]

> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 30 08:57:49 1998
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:56:36 +0300

> Hi,

> did set the SMP support in the CONFIG file correctly?

> Cheers, Thomas

Thanks, that did the trick. I thought I had read and set those
options carefully earlier in the process, but I think I did the
testing over too long a period to keep track of what I had tried
and not tried.

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Re: Printing from windows

[Lee Bradshaw]

On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 01:04:10AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 04:03:46AM -0500, Will Lowe wrote:
> > about how to write a filter that does nothing,  I'll do that ... I'd make
> > another printcap entry like this:
> > 
> > raw|winprint:\
> > :lp=/dev/NULL:\
> > :if=/usr/sbin/rawprint:
> > 
> > where /usr/sbin/rawprint just takes its input and cats it to /dev/lp1 ...
> > any ideas?  Remember that I can't cat anything to lp1 without killing lpd,
> > which is waiting on lp1 already,  but that if I try to do "lpr" within
> > rawprint,  it'll get passed through magicfilter,  which is the problem in
> > the first place...
> 
> H. If you don't specify a filter at all (remove the if=) then
> it won't use magicfilter, and will go straight through to the printer.
> 
> Then you can have both the raw and cooked (magicfiltered) queues
> running in parallel; at least, I THINK this is supported (using the
> same port).
> 
> 
> Hamish

If you can't direct two queues to the same device, put them in sequence.  Have 
the
magicfilter queue print to the raw queue.  I have to do this for remoter 
printers:

lp|lj|hplj4l|HP Laserjet 4L:\
:lp=/dev/null:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hplj4l:\
:sh:\
:pw#80:\
:pl#66:\
:px#1440:\
:mx#0:\
:if=/usr/local/bin/remote-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:\
:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
lp-r|HP Laserjet 4L-r:\
:lp=/dev/null:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hplj4l-r:\
:sh:\
:pw#80:\
:pl#66:\
:px#1440:\
:mx#0:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct-r:\
:lf=/var/log/lp-errs-r:\
:rm=jetd:\
:rp=raw:


/usr/local/bin/remoter-filter:

#!/bin/sh
/usr/sbin/ljet4l-filter | lpr -Plp-r

To use magicfilter, print to lp.  This print job will be filtered through 
remote-filter.
remote-filter filters through magicfilter and then prints to the raw printer.  
Windows
programs can just use the raw printer.

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Re: Debian 2.0 Question

[Michael Acklin]

At 10:58 AM 4/30/98 -0400, you wrote:
> 
>I hate crashes/...had one too many myself 
>

I did want to clear one thing up. It wasn't Debian that crashed. I had 
a 
power off/on that caused the crash. Apparently, sendmail was delivering a 
message right in the middle of the power spike and took out just about all 
the exec files on my system. 

I have had no problems with Debian at all with system hangs or crashes, 
other than something I did. I have been VERY Happy with linux and Debian. 
In fact I have had the system up without interuption for over 2 weeks. 
Can't say that about Windoze. I couldn't keep Win95 up over 4 hours without 
a crash.

But thanks for all the messages and the help on this subject. I will be 
finishing up this evening. Someone was mentioning that I should use the 
script to upgrade. But I have nothing on my system to upgrade, so thought 
instead of running the Debian 1.31 complete installation, I would go ahead 
and go to 2.0's installation disks.
Again, thanks for all your help!

 
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Re: ACK! SCSI Not WOrking

[Nathan E Norman]

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
[ snip ]
: I don't have the manual for the card but...

http://www.adaptec.com/support/overview/scsiha.html - you should be able
to figure out how to find the manual from there.

: if I look at the board itself i see jumpers (yes jumpers...I LOVE jumpers..
: the best way to set IRQs and what not)
: next to one of the sets of jumpers there are a few rows marked
: I9, I10, I11,I12. ...I assume these ar eteh interrupt setting
: then there is another which is marked
: in: 140
: out: 340 (I think...I forget the higher value)
: in any case yes...I am pretty darned sure I used the rigth IRQ

It's best to be 100% sure; the 152x driver doesn't work too well if you
haven't got it right. 

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Re: Printing from windows

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 04:03:46AM -0500, Will Lowe wrote:
> about how to write a filter that does nothing,  I'll do that ... I'd make
> another printcap entry like this:
> 
> raw|winprint:\
>   :lp=/dev/NULL:\
>   :if=/usr/sbin/rawprint:
> 
> where /usr/sbin/rawprint just takes its input and cats it to /dev/lp1 ...
> any ideas?  Remember that I can't cat anything to lp1 without killing lpd,
> which is waiting on lp1 already,  but that if I try to do "lpr" within
> rawprint,  it'll get passed through magicfilter,  which is the problem in
> the first place...

H. If you don't specify a filter at all (remove the if=) then
it won't use magicfilter, and will go straight through to the printer.

Then you can have both the raw and cooked (magicfiltered) queues
running in parallel; at least, I THINK this is supported (using the
same port).


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Re: Printing from windows

[Will Lowe]

> I have never found magicfilter to interfere with this though. I have
> a PCL5 HP5L, and I print through samba to the same printer which I print
> to on linux with lpr, with magic filter -- no problem. From memory
> I did the same with my ESC2P bubblejet 20 before that.

The problem is that my win95 driver is putting out a non-standard pjl
file.  It's pjl stuff,  but with a couple hundred control-@ charactars at
the front.  I have NO IDEA what they're for -- if you delete them you get
a standard pjl file,  which magicfilter recognizes and which the printer
prints just fine.  It's enough to make you wonder if the printer doesn't
just ignore them -- maybe the win95 driver sticks them there exactly to
make it difficult for utilities like "file" to figure out what's in the
driver output...

Anyway,  I changed the "default" line in my magicfilter to "cat" rather
than "djscript" and it works fine now.  If someone can give me an idea
about how to write a filter that does nothing,  I'll do that ... I'd make
another printcap entry like this:

raw|winprint:\
:lp=/dev/NULL:\
:if=/usr/sbin/rawprint:

where /usr/sbin/rawprint just takes its input and cats it to /dev/lp1 ...
any ideas?  Remember that I can't cat anything to lp1 without killing lpd,
which is waiting on lp1 already,  but that if I try to do "lpr" within
rawprint,  it'll get passed through magicfilter,  which is the problem in
the first place...
Will

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mars-nwe preliminary for slink

[Hamish Moffatt]

I've uploaded a preliminary package for mars-nwe (at long last)
to my FTP server at ftp.rising.com.au, in directory /pub/hamish.

This is 0.99pl8 which requires no patches to get running on libc6,
unlike previous editions. Thanks to Marcus for letting me know about
this, and for making me get around to releasing the package.

Caveats: it spits out some ugly startup messages, which I haven't
removed yet, so I'm not going to upload it to master just yet.
Also, on my system, it still won't die -- I can't kill the thing,
I even send it SIGSEGV and it just notes in the log and keeps running.

Note: this package is for slink, which means you need a hamm or
slink system to run it.

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Re: Quota on Mail systems

[Chris]

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Pete's mailing list account wrote:

> 
> On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Chris wrote:
> 
> 
> If a user receives a mail which puts them over softquota, with  as a
> local delivery agent: 
> 
> 1) deliver.  User would receive their mail and go over softquota but with
> zero grace period.  If you ran a script like I do to notify users of being
> overquota, they'd know about being overquota (as long as they didn't hit
> "hard" quota) and be able to fix it.
> 


The problem I am having, however, is that deliver will still put mail in
their mailbox well after going over their "hard" quota.  I believe this is
because it is running as root (although  it really should assume the id of
the user just before attempting to deliver the mail).

Perhaps to overcome the problem with the quota notification, the quota
warnings should be delivered by root, using an alternate MDA (such as
deliver) - which means the user will recieve the mail regardless of their
quota?


Chris




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Re: Debian 2.0 Question

[aqy6633]

>   The question I have is looking at the /binary-i386 Disk section, there 
> all
> the files and 2 I am not sure about. This is resc1440tecra.bin and
> drv1440tecra.bin. What exactly is the "tecra"? Do I need it for installing
> Debian 2.0? I checked the list archives and couldn't find anything about
> this for the last 2 months. 
> 
>   Also, is it smart for me to go ahead with the Debian 2.0 upgrade 
> starting
> out fresh? I do have some scripts - ppp.chatscript, reslov.conf, and a few
> others that will probably work with 2.0 that I have backed up and will
> probably use. But other than that, I was hoping to get all the updated
> files for 2.0 with this install. Is this Ok?

Yep.

Go ahead and do fresh install. Tecra disks are mainly for laptops.
As for ppp.chatscript and friends, old scripts will be of big help,
but the localtion of scripts themselves is changed, they are now in
/etc/ppp/peers/provider and /etc/chatscripts/provider

Good luck.

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RE: Debian 2.0 Question

[Mark Ciciretti]

The Tecra files are for the Toshiba Tecra series of laptops.  I'm not really
sure what is the difference between them and thee standard boot disks.

You don't need to do a clean install.  I just downloaded the hamm base
packages and used dpkg to upgrade.  Look at
http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html
This is the basic installiation instructions.  There is also an autoupgrade
script but I can't remeber where it is.  The only think that you need to be
real carefull about is the ordering of the packages when you install them. 
Your scripts should work in hamm.

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Re: Off Topic, Linus Torvalds.

[DAVID B. TEAGUE]

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:

> I have recently read a magazine about linux, and it mentioned the world's
> first "knowing" of linux; A 1991 post to comp.os.minix from Linus
> Torvalds. Would anyone have any idea if this is available, or even if it
> was saved? Or even where I could start to look for it?
> 
> Sheesh.. I ask TOO much.. :)

I have a file I got somewhere that may have what you need in it.
I'm including the first 100 lines or so, if anyone wants it all
please mail me. It runs about 500 lines.

I'll send it sometime next week.

--David


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Subject: Birthday (was Re: Uptime found.  Thanks to all)
Date: 31 Jul 92 22:15:20 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duperval Laurent) writes:
>
>P.S.  BTW, noone answered yet:  when is Linux's birthday?  Let's have a
>party!

I couldn't for the life of me remember when it all happened, and I don't
keep a diary, so I can't give you any exact dates for when linux "was
born".  But I did start to wonder, so I started ftp'ing around for
archives of the comp.os.minix group (where I announced it), and this is
what I came up with (with some editing). 

This is just a sentimental journey into some of the first posts
concerning linux, so you can happily press 'n' now if you actually
thought you'd get anything technical. 

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
> Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
> Subject: Gcc-1.40 and a posix-question
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 3 Jul 91 10:00:50 GMT
> 
> Hello netlanders,
> 
> Due to a project I'm working on (in minix), I'm interested in the posix
> standard definition. Could somebody please point me to a (preferably)
> machine-readable format of the latest posix rules? Ftp-sites would be
> nice.

The project was obviously linux, so by July 3rd I had started to think
about actual user-level things: some of the device drivers were ready,
and the harddisk actually worked.  Not too much else. 

> As an aside for all using gcc on minix - [ deleted ]

Just a success-report on porting gcc-1.40 to minix using the 1.37
version made by Alan W Black & co.

>   Linus Torvalds  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> PS. Could someone please try to finger me from overseas, as I've
> installed a "changing .plan" (made by your's truly), and I'm not certain
> it works from outside? It should report a new .plan every time.

So I was clueless - had just learned about named pipes.  Sue me.  This
part of the post got a lot more response than the actual POSIX query,
but the query did lure out arl from the woodwork, and we mailed around
for a bit, resulting in the Linux subdirectory on nic.funet.fi. 

Then, almost two months later, I actually had something working: I made
sources for version 0.01 available on nic sometimes around this time. 
0.01 sources weren't actually runnable: they were just a token gesture
to arl who had probably started to despair about ever getting anything. 
This next post must have been from just a couple of weeks before that
release. 

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
> Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
> Subject: What would you like to see most in minix?
> Summary: small poll for my new operating system
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 25 Aug 91 20:57:08 GMT
> Organization: University of Helsinki
> 
> 
> Hello everybody out there using minix -
> 
> I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and
> professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones.  This has been brewing
> since april, and is starting to get ready.  I'd like any feedback on
> things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat
> (same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons)
> among other things). 
> 
> I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to work. 
> This implies that I'll get something practical within a few months, and
> I'd like to know what features most people would want.  Any suggestions
> are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them :-)
> 
>   Linus ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 
> PS.  Yes - it's free of any minix code, and it has a multi-threaded fs. 
> It is NOT protable (uses 386 task switching etc), and it probably never
> will support anything other than AT-harddisks, as that's all I have :-(. 

Judging from the post, 0.01 wasn't actually out yet, but it's close. I'd
guess the first version went out in the middle of September -91. I got
some responses to this (most by mail, which I haven't saved), and I even
got a few mails asking to be beta-testers for linux.

After that just a few general answers to quesions on the net:




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Debian 2.0 Question

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Everyone,

I have been using Debian 1.31 for some time now, but had a bad crash 
last
Monday and was going to go ahead and upgrade to Debian 2.0 from the Frozen
Distribution. I know I am pre-mature but, thought this was a good time,
seeing how my system is hosed as it is. I do have backups but really was
hoping that 2.0 was going to be out by the end of this month (April), but
checked and now it is May. 

The question I have is looking at the /binary-i386 Disk section, there 
all
the files and 2 I am not sure about. This is resc1440tecra.bin and
drv1440tecra.bin. What exactly is the "tecra"? Do I need it for installing
Debian 2.0? I checked the list archives and couldn't find anything about
this for the last 2 months. 

Also, is it smart for me to go ahead with the Debian 2.0 upgrade 
starting
out fresh? I do have some scripts - ppp.chatscript, reslov.conf, and a few
others that will probably work with 2.0 that I have backed up and will
probably use. But other than that, I was hoping to get all the updated
files for 2.0 with this install. Is this Ok?

Thanks for your help!



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Re: ACK! SCSI Not WOrking

[Mark Ciciretti]

Try setting the jumper to set the address to 340.  I have an Adaptec 1522, which
is basicaly the same card but with floppy support.  This is the message I get
from dmesg:

aha152x: BIOS test: passed, auto configuration: ok, detected 1 controller(s)
aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x340, IRQ=11, SCSI ID=7, reconnect=enabled, pari
ty=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=100, extended translation=disabled
aha152x: trying software interrupt, ok.
scsi0 : Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 1.18 $

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Re: logging/syslog

[Gert Doering]

Hi,

Paul Miller wrote:
> 
> 
> I just noticed that mgetty is logging caller information to
> /var/log/syslog.. Is there any way I can get mgetty to start logging to
> something like /var/log/callers?

No.

(Well, yes, direct the *mgetty* log file into /var/log/callers, by
changing policy.h and recompiling, but you usually don't want to do that).

gert

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libc5 Version von mesa für hamm?

[Dirk Luetjens]

Hallo,

ich suche die mesa2 libraries in einer libc5 Version für ein hamm System.
Hat jemand eine Idee?

Dirk


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Sidewinders and Re: compiling joystick.o

[David Wright]

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Brian Servis wrote:

> Corey Miller wrote:
> > 
> > I'm trying to compile the module for joystick support, but when I
> > make joystick.o and try to load it with insmod I get this error:
> > 
[...]
> 
> Check the Makefile, I think there is a variable in there that sets what
> kernel it is compiling for.  I am not at my Linux machine now to check.
> I think you can even give a list of kernel versions and it will create
> a set of different joystick.o's one for each kernel version.  

You're right, and I guess that's why the binary package only has 2.0.27
and 2.0.30 versions in it.

But on the subject of joysticks, I have a MS "Sidewinder 3D Pro" joystick
which claims to be a digital stick. Fortunately it also seems to run in
a compatibility analogue mode though not everything works: the "throttle"
(slider) and 4 buttons on the base don't work. The effect of the switch
appears merely to turn on/off the "hat".

To anyone who uses one of these, have I missed any features?
To all and sundry, is there any work in progress on driving digital
joysticks digitally (not that I particularly want to run a Sidewinder
Force Feedback Pro and get whitefinger syndrome!).

Cheers,

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Re: ACK! SCSI Not WOrking

[Stephen Carpenter]

Patrick Ouellette wrote:

> Does you SCSI card have *gasp* jumpers to configure the interrupts

Jumpers for both interrupts and IO adress...I had (previously to posting my
first message even) check /proc/interrupts
found that 11 and 9 are free interrupts for me...and the board suports both
(it also suports 12 which is my PS/2 mouse and 10 which is my NIC card)
I don't have the manual for the card but...
if I look at the board itself i see jumpers (yes jumpers...I LOVE jumpers..
the best way to set IRQs and what not)
next to one of the sets of jumpers there are a few rows marked
I9, I10, I11,I12. ...I assume these ar eteh interrupt setting
then there is another which is marked
in: 140
out: 340 (I think...I forget the higher value)
in any case yes...I am pretty darned sure I used the rigth IRQ

> (or software)?  I get similar messages if I put the wrong irq in
> the AHA152x module load line.

hmm well it isn't a module load line... its in the kernel boot parametersI don't
use kernel modules whenever I can avoid them...I just compile it into the kernel

and turn off what I don't need
same diff tho I guess

> If it is one of those plug-n-pray
> cards there used to be some utils that might help, iirc.
>
> Pat Ouellette
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>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> > Stephen Carpenter
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 9:37 PM
> > To: debian-user list
> > Subject: ACK! SCSI Not WOrking
> >
> >
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >
> > I got my SCSI tape drive and I installed a SCSI card I had lying around
> > unfortunatly it didn't work :(
> > I THINK the problem may be the controller...
> > I get the messages:
> > aha152x: processing commandline: ok
> > aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s)
> > aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x140, IRQ=9, SCSI ID=7, reconnect=enabled,
> > parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=100, extended
> > translation=disabled
> > aha152x: trying software interrupt, lost.
> > aha152x: IRQ 9 possibly wrong.  Please verify.
> > - ---
> > I have tried IRQ 11 with the same effect...then it is...
> > scsi0 : Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 1.18 $
> > scsi : 1 host.
> > scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 0, scsi0, channel 0, id 0,
> > lun 0 Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00
> > - --- repeated for id 0 - 6
> > The SCSI card is from a ZIP SCSI drive (I got it for free from omeone
> > who already had a SCSI card and installed a ZIP)
> > It calls itself (written on the board) an
> > Adaptec AVA-1502
> > the Tape drive apears to be (jumpers) SCSI ID 4, Parity on, Termination
> > power on
> > Any ideas? should I just forget it asnd buy a new adapter?
> > I recompiled my kernel...turned on SCSI supoert and
> > all of the Adaptec Drivers ...I am running Kernel 2.0.29
> > (on a hamm system but I doubt that matters)
> > I read the SCSI-HOWTO...but it was of no help :(
> > - -Steve
> >
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Re: Quota on Mail systems

[Pete's mailing list account]

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Chris wrote:

> I don't think I'll hold my breath - but I will switch over to procmail to
> my MDA.  Can you give me any information on setting procmail up as the
> MDA?  Or is it fairly straight forward (ie. I should just read the
> sendmail man page)

I would not recommend this switchover.

If a user receives a mail which puts them over softquota, with  as a
local delivery agent: 

1) deliver.  User would receive their mail and go over softquota but with
zero grace period.  If you ran a script like I do to notify users of being
overquota, they'd know about being overquota (as long as they didn't hit
"hard" quota) and be able to fix it.

2) procmail.  Incoming mail which puts the user overquota will fail the
final delivery stage (procmail notices the error of no quota/no grace
period) and bounce.  Unless your automatic "overquota" email is the only
thing small enough to get into their mailbox, they won't know that they're
overquota, and won't get their mail.  This is totally unreflective of hard
quota

Check out http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/20/20879.html for more details on
this bug.


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RE: ACK! SCSI Not WOrking

[Patrick Ouellette]

Does you SCSI card have *gasp* jumpers to configure the interrupts
(or software)?  I get similar messages if I put the wrong irq in
the AHA152x module load line.  If it is one of those plug-n-pray
cards there used to be some utils that might help, iirc.


Pat Ouellette

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Stephen Carpenter
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 9:37 PM
> To: debian-user list
> Subject: ACK! SCSI Not WOrking
>
>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>
> I got my SCSI tape drive and I installed a SCSI card I had lying around
> unfortunatly it didn't work :(
> I THINK the problem may be the controller...
> I get the messages:
> aha152x: processing commandline: ok
> aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s)
> aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x140, IRQ=9, SCSI ID=7, reconnect=enabled,
> parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=100, extended
> translation=disabled
> aha152x: trying software interrupt, lost.
> aha152x: IRQ 9 possibly wrong.  Please verify.
> - ---
> I have tried IRQ 11 with the same effect...then it is...
> scsi0 : Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 1.18 $
> scsi : 1 host.
> scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 0, scsi0, channel 0, id 0,
> lun 0 Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00
> - --- repeated for id 0 - 6
> The SCSI card is from a ZIP SCSI drive (I got it for free from omeone
> who already had a SCSI card and installed a ZIP)
> It calls itself (written on the board) an
> Adaptec AVA-1502
> the Tape drive apears to be (jumpers) SCSI ID 4, Parity on, Termination
> power on
> Any ideas? should I just forget it asnd buy a new adapter?
> I recompiled my kernel...turned on SCSI supoert and
> all of the Adaptec Drivers ...I am running Kernel 2.0.29
> (on a hamm system but I doubt that matters)
> I read the SCSI-HOWTO...but it was of no help :(
> - -Steve
>
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Re: HP Laserjet 4000 T

[Mario Filipe]

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On 30-Apr-98 Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 11:08:29AM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote:
>> The bosses arround here have bought one of these. Our problem now is that
>> when
>> printing the printer holds the last page (FF missing). Question: What is the
>> right filter for this one, and how can we force the FF?
> 
> I recommend installing magicfilter -- it can do that for you.

We are using magicfilter! My question would be more correct like this:

What is the correct magicfilter filter for this printer ?

Mario Filipe
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Re: compiling joystick.o

[Brian Servis]

Corey Miller wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to compile the module for joystick support, but when I
> make joystick.o and try to load it with insmod I get this error:
> 
> mstie# insmod joystick.o
> joystick.o: kernel-module version mismatch
> joystick.o was compiled for kernel version 2.0.32
> while this kernel is version 2.0.33.
> 
> I am running 2.0.33, and have 2.0.33 in /usr/src/linux. If anyone
> could point out my mistake, I would really appreciate it.
> 

Check the Makefile, I think there is a variable in there that sets what
kernel it is compiling for.  I am not at my Linux machine now to check.
I think you can even give a list of kernel versions and it will create
a set of different joystick.o's one for each kernel version.  

Brian


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Re: green monitor functions for the console?

[Thomas Lakofski]

I have this in a file called `/etc/rc.boot/consoledpms':

#!/bin/sh
setterm -blank 15 -powersave powerdown

I couldn't get it to do anything other than 'suspend' on the console, and
'off' in X... probably depends on your videocard and monitor.

-thomas


On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

> From: Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Debian User 
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:05:48 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: green monitor functions for the console?
> 
> 
> Is there a program, similar to xset, that can set the green monitor
> functions for the console?  I'd like my monitor to turn off after a
> certain amount of inactivity.
> 
> Thanks
> -Paul


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RE: Quota on Mail systems

[Patrick Ouellette]

IMHO quotas on /var/spool are a bad idea.  They are only effective
(as you have discovered) if the user owns the file there - many processes
(news, mail, etc.) put things in spool with the ownership other than
the user who the file is for.  If you do get say all the processes to put
the
file in spool with the owner as the user, and the user spools a postscript
print job, they can't get mail, news, whatever until the print job is
removed.
If the user is using gs to render the postscript, they may need additional
space (in /var/spool) before that happens.

I grant that what I describe has a lot of if this statements.  My experience
with computers has shown me that eventually you get discover about 5 times
the
what if statements in actual problems.

A solution would be to have quotas on the user's home directory, and have
the
user's mail spool to ~/mail or some such directory.  Of course if the user
fills up his home directory then he can't get any mail, but that is his/her
problem ;-)


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> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Quota on Mail systems
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>
> Hi.
>
> I am trying to implement quotas on the mail system of my debian linux
> server.  I have configured the quota system so that users have a quota on
> /var/spool.
>
> This quota works fine and enforces the limit correctly when a user
> attempts to put any files in that filesystem via the shell - but when a
> user recieves mail it is placed into their mail file - regardless of their
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Re: diamond viper card and xfree86

[Frank Barknecht]

Lewis, James M.  hat gesagt: // Lewis, James M.  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Anyone know if a diamond viper 330 card is supported
> under XFree86?  If it is, can I run it with a bo system?
> 
 
 I think this is a card with a Riva128-Chip. If so, take a look at 
 http://www.suse.de 
 Suse has developed a X-Server for Riva-Chips (XSuse) that should work 
 with bo.

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Re: Printing from windows

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 06:57:35AM -0500, Brian Servis wrote:
> The solution then is to set up a printer in printcap that does not use
> magicfilter but instead just passes the raw data straight to the
> printer.
> Then use this printer as the share printer exported by samba.  Windows
> is 
> already taking care of all the formatting, printer definition, etc. via
> the
> printer driver.  All samba has to do is pass it on to the printer
> without
> trying to process it.  

I have never found magicfilter to interfere with this though. I have
a PCL5 HP5L, and I print through samba to the same printer which I print
to on linux with lpr, with magic filter -- no problem. From memory
I did the same with my ESC2P bubblejet 20 before that.


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Re: linux shutdown

[Lorens Kockum]

In debian.user was writ:
>
> And - what are dangers of so-called 'three-finger salute' which is
>described as The Very Bad Thing (tm) and absolute no-no?

It is?  Hasn't been so for a *very* long time!

/etc/inittab:
# What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed.
ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t20 -h now

-h is not the default, of course, -r is the default.

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Re: HP Laserjet 4000 T

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 11:08:29AM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote:
> The bosses arround here have bought one of these. Our problem now is that when
> printing the printer holds the last page (FF missing). Question: What is the
> right filter for this one, and how can we force the FF?

I recommend installing magicfilter -- it can do that for you.


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hamm's last soaks up 9MB RAM

[Rainer Clasen]

Hi!

I recently updated an 386 with 8MB to hamm and after fixing utmp/wtmp I ran
last too check if everything is ok. It seemed to do nothing, neither ^C nor
^Z worked. I opened another ssh-connection and ps showed me

root   210  6.9 49.5  9952  3400  p0 D13:39   0:02 last

After a while last completed sucessfully. I copied wtmp to a faster
hamm-box, which apearantly had no problems, but also used 9MB RAM.

bo's last only takes 800k - so what's wrong??

BTW: its from sysvinit_2.74-4

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linux shutdown

[Arunas Norvaisa]

 Dear all,

 I'm confused...

 Have RTFMing and am using 'shutdown -r now' to restart my system.
BUT our system (Netware/Unix) admin (really old and experienced
'wolf') have told me that he's using 'sync;sync;halt' and have tried
to persuade me to use 'his' command.

 What is your opinion as I'm really confused about this.

 And - what are dangers of so-called 'three-finger salute' which is
described as The Very Bad Thing (tm) and absolute no-no?

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Re: Off Topic, Linus Torvalds.

[Lorens Kockum]

In debian-user Michael Beattie wrote:
>I have recently read a magazine about linux, and it mentioned the world's
>first "knowing" of linux; A 1991 post to comp.os.minix from Linus
>Torvalds.



Do you yearn for the days when men were men, and wrote their own
device drivers...





> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
> Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
> Subject: Free minix-like kernel sources for 386-AT
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 5 Oct 91 05:41:06 GMT
> Organization: University of Helsinki
> 
> Do you pine for the nice days of minix-1.1, when men were men and wrote
> their own device drivers? Are you without a nice project and just dying
> to cut your teeth on a OS you can try to modify for your needs?  Are you
> finding it frustrating when everything works on minix? No more all-
> nighters to get a nifty program working? Then this post might be just
> for you :-)

It's about 33% into http://sslug.imm.dtu.dk/linux_history_1.html>



I never knew his second name was Benedict...

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Re: iBCS compiling

[Thomas Gebhardt]

Hi,

did set the SMP support in the CONFIG file correctly?

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Lilo woes

[Tristan Day]

Thanks to everyone who gave opinions and advice on the HTML editor. I can't
stand 'vi' (the DOS to Linux HOWTO is right when it says that DOS users
probably won't like vi! Is there a good tutorial? the man page assumes you
know it well), so when I get everything working again (see below) I think I
will have a look at  Netscape Composer. =)


Just reinstalled Debian, and everything worked fine until I configured lilo,
which decided that it didn't like the idea of not installing an MBR, so it
went ahead and did it anyway.
I *used to* dual boot WinNT and Debian 1.3.1 (not R6), and if there's any
possibility of restoring the Master Boot Record then I would like to persue
it.

Partitioning is as follows

Hda1 = extended partition, can't get to it

Hda2 = 4MB partition with the NT bootloader and all it needs to boot up
Linux and NT

Hda3 = 100MB Linux Swap

Hda4 = about 300Mb (very happy I have this one!) All my important documents,
etc. FAT format

Hda5 = about 1.5gig: NT (NTFS format -- is the alpha driver usable/reliable
yet? Last time I heard it actually ignores Security information!! MS reckons
NTFS is impregnable!) This is where all the NT resides

Hda6 = Linux root

The only problem is that Linux is in the MBR, so it _seems_ unnecessary to
reinstall NT just for this. Is there a way of getting to the MBR? Is it easy
to change?

So my questions are as follows:

1. Where can I find a good tutorial for vi?
2. Can anyone suggest how I could restore NT as the default boot?
3. Failing 2, is there a way of booting NT from lilo or loadlin, or
something along these lines?
4. a)Can I get to the MBR, and how?
b) If so, is it easy to edit?


Thanks for help on any of these issues,

Tristan


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Re: Printing from windows

[Brian Servis]

Will Lowe wrote:
> 
> This DOES work:
> 1) make some windows thing (ie. MS Word) print to a file
> 2) ftp the file to the linux host in BINARY mode
> 3) killoff lpd
> 4) become user "lp"
> 5) do "cat filename > /dev/lp1"
> 
> it prints just fine this way (even with all the crazy control characters
> at the front).
> 
> But the default magicfilter option for text files is to run them through
> "djscript",  and they don't print right that way.  Is there any way (other
> than having a 255-character string in /etc/magicfilter/dj550c-filter) to
> get magic to recognize this as a weird form of PJL and just cat it?
> 

The solution then is to set up a printer in printcap that does not use
magicfilter but instead just passes the raw data straight to the
printer.
Then use this printer as the share printer exported by samba.  Windows
is 
already taking care of all the formatting, printer definition, etc. via
the
printer driver.  All samba has to do is pass it on to the printer
without
trying to process it.  

Brian


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Re: Off Topic, Linus Torvalds.

[jdassen]

On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 11:29:43PM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote:
> I have recently read a magazine about linux, and it mentioned the world's
> first "knowing" of linux; A 1991 post to comp.os.minix from Linus
> Torvalds.

A number of early Linux posts from Linus are available as part of the Linus
vs Andy Tanenbaum flamewar, which is archived on many places, e.g.
http://www.kde.org/food/linux_is_obsolete.html

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Re: bouncing mail with procmail

[Lorens Kockum]

In debian-user you wrote:
>
>How can I bounce mail with procmail?  I've tried using |exit 111, but it
>complains about not being able to open the exit mail file...

You need to put 'EXITCODE=xxx' instead.

>Here is my current .procmailrc:

Here is mine :-) I use qmail, so YMMV. reject-spam prints a
message to stderr (which is taken up by the bounce), and exits
100. I'm not sure which of the two '100' is used as the actual
code returned to procmail, I did this in increments, and it was a
long time ago.

--
MAILBOX=~/procmailbox

:0


EXITCODE=100

:0c
|~/reject-spam

:0
!spam
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Yes, spam is a user-name on my machine. It might be better to
make it a file, that way I'd keep the MAIL FROM:.  I'm looking
(but not very hard) for a way to keep the RCPT TO: ...

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Re: kde dont work

[Alain Toussaint]

Hello all,i got it working finaly,it's awesome,i like it very much and i
look stable on my setup (16 MB ram,48 MB swap).

thanks !!
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Re: Driver for Diamond Fire GL 100 PRO

[Mike Holliday]

Hi,
Download The Xserver/driver  in the latest XF86_SVGA
server, i.e. in XF86 3.3.2.  I'm not sure if that is available as a bo set
of packages.  If it isn't just download the Linux_ix86 XF86-3.3.2 binaries
(not the glibc ones) from any XF86 mirror.  The glibc XF86 binaries are
for Linux libc6/glibc2, not Linux libc5 which is what is normally found on
bo systems (Debian 1.3.1).

-Original Message-
From: Mircea-David MORAR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Date: Thursday, April 30, 1998 6:03 AM
Subject: Driver for Diamond Fire GL 100 PRO


>Hello,
>
>Does anybody know where could I find a driver for a graphic card
>Diamond Fire GL 100 Pro? I can't use X on my machine because the card is
>not supported.
>
>Many thanks,
>
> Mircea
>
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Off Topic, Linus Torvalds.

[Michael Beattie]

I have recently read a magazine about linux, and it mentioned the world's
first "knowing" of linux; A 1991 post to comp.os.minix from Linus
Torvalds. Would anyone have any idea if this is available, or even if it
was saved? Or even where I could start to look for it?

Sheesh.. I ask TOO much.. :)


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Re: KDE Beta-4 with bo?

[John Wingfield]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael
Tempsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>On 29 Apr , John Wingfield wrote:
>
>> Could someone please explain to me what "bo" and "hamm" actually are?
>> Thanks!
>
>Codewords for different versions of the distribution,
>bo == 1.3(.1rX) (currently the "stable" distribution)
>hamm == 2.0 (currently in the 'frozen' state, soon to be stable)
>slink == what is to be 2.1, also currently known as unstable
>
>A distribution will progress from unstable to frozen to stable as it
>evolves - but it keeps the same codeword.
>
>As to where the names come from - Bruce Perens, the previous Debian
>leader works for Pixar, the company that produced the movie "Toy Story"...
>
>/michael

I see!  Thanks for clearing that up for me.  I'm planning to upgrade to
Debian 2.0 as soon as some 'official' CDs are produced.  I'll install
KDE then.

John


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green monitor functions for the console?

[Paul Miller]

Is there a program, similar to xset, that can set the green monitor
functions for the console?  I'd like my monitor to turn off after a
certain amount of inactivity.

Thanks
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bouncing mail with procmail

[Paul Miller]

How can I bounce mail with procmail?  I've tried using |exit 111, but it
complains about not being able to open the exit mail file...  Here is my
current .procmailrc:

LOGFILE=$HOME/mail.log
:0
* ! ^(FROM|TO).*tcimet.net
|exit 111
:0
* ^(FROM|TO).*tcimet.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

This it not on my server, so I only have .forward and .procmailrc to work
with.  Their MTA is sendmail 8.8.5.. Is there another way using .forward?

Thanks
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Re: PPP problem using hamm

[David Wright]

On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, calvin wrote:

> when i type in pon it dials my ISP and logs in fine then like 30 seconds
> later it disconnects heres what it says when i type in plog
> pppd[129] Serial connection established
> pppd[129] Using interface ppp0
> pppd[129] LPC: Timeout sending config-requests
> pppd[129] Connection terminated
> pppd[129] Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
> pppd[129] Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
> pppd[129] Hangup (SIGHUP)
> pppd[129] Exit
> 
> any suggestions?

Here's a (bo) script for dialing my ISP (on an internal extension):

#! /bin/bash

/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS1 115200 defaultroute connect '/usr/sbin/chat -v 
-t 90 ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT VOICE ABORT "NO DIALTONE" "" 
ATZ OK ATL1 OK ATDT8881 ervice--ervice ppp' user spqr -chap

If I don't send that "ppp" I get the same error as you do. The command
you need to send is usually ppp, though I observed that if you type
"help" to our Xylogics Annex box (which is what says Service>) there's
no mention of ppp as a command.

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Driver for Diamond Fire GL 100 PRO

[Mircea-David MORAR]

Hello,

Does anybody know where could I find a driver for a graphic card
Diamond Fire GL 100 Pro? I can't use X on my machine because the card is
not supported.

Many thanks,

Mircea

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logging/syslog

[Paul Miller]

I just noticed that mgetty is logging caller information to
/var/log/syslog.. Is there any way I can get mgetty to start logging to
something like /var/log/callers?

That would make it easier to have a program watch that file and execute a
command when a new line appears than digging through the mgetty log
files..

Thanks
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Re: KDE Beta-4 with bo?

[John Wingfield]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Berlin.MPG.DE>, "Heiko R. Selber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>"Rev. Joseph Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>-+ On Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 04:22:08PM +0200, Heiko R. Selber wrote:
>-+ >
>-+ > I heard that the new KDE Beta-4 was released. Unfortunately, it seems
>-+ that
>-+ > the .deb packages exist only in hamm. Is that true, or did someone make
>-+ > new KDE packages for bo? If so, where can I get them?
>-+ 
>-+ I saw a bo directory on the ftp mirror.  I didn't go in it (run hamm here)
>-+ but I did see the dir.  The pacakges are debianized too, not just in .deb
>-+ form.
>
>I saw the dir, too. However, it's empty. Maybe due to a transmission
>error?
>
>I am still reluctant to switch to hamm because I recently screwed up a
>running bo system trying to upgrade automagically using some script I
>found on the web. I would like to wait for hamm to become stable, but
>upgrade KDE, mostly because kfm is rather unstable in KDE Beta3. 
>
>Heiko

Could someone please explain to me what "bo" and "hamm" actually are?
Thanks!

John

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Re: display postscript

[jdassen]

On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 09:57:27PM -0400, David B Wilson wrote:
> Is there any sort of display postscript support in Linux?

Yes. The ghostscript author was contracted to produce Display PostScript
support for gnustep (see http://www.gnustep.org/GoodNews/GeneralNews.html);
the "dgs" package in hamm is Display Ghostscript; it is explicitly marked as
"a developer release. Don't use it for production.".

HTH,
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Re: recompiling kernel

[G. Crimp]

On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 11:32:27AM -0400, Scott Ellis wrote:

[snip]

> > Somewhere in usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/compressed there is a file
> > that is invoking objdump (whatever that might be) with an option `-k'. 
> > make zdisk and make zImage say this is an illegal option.  

[snip]

> > 
> > The objdump man page doesn't mention the `-k' option.  So why is
> > some script somewhere issuing this command ?  This is more puzzling since I
> > compiled a kernel when I first installed without any problem.  Same 
> > sources. 
> > Now I try to add sound and I get this.  Even if I take out the sound support
> > and try to compile the kernel exactly like the one I am currently using
> > (from a backed up .config) I get this error.
[snip]


> 
> Argh!  This keeps popping up.  The proper fix for this is 
> 
> rm `which encaps`

Thanks for the answer.  Sorry if I'm dredging up old muck.  Before I
just blindly apply your solution, though, I want to make sure I know at
least at little what's going on.  I've been trying to decipher the stdout
from make zImage (or zdisk), and I am not sure the above solution will solve
the problem.  Once again, here is where the compile craps out:

(...)
make[2]: Entering directory
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/arch/i386/boot/compressed'
(...)
if hash encaps 2> /dev/null; then \
  objdump -k -q  -o 0x10 /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/vmlinux >
$tmppiggy; \
else \
  objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -R .stab -R .stabstr
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/vmlinux $tmppiggy; \
fi;
(...)
objdump: illegal option -- k
Usage: objdump [-ahifdDprRtTx  (...)
(...)
make: *** [zdisk] Error 2
root:/usr/src/linux #


Let me explain why I am unsure that the above solution is going to
solve my problem.  If I understand the above excerpt correctly, `objdump -k
-q ...' will be executed if `hash encaps' returns an exit status of true. 
It shouldn't.  I don't have encaps on my system.  I have checked using 

`find / -iname encaps', 
`type encaps', 
  and   `file encaps'.  

Therefore, `objcopy -O binary ...' should be executed instead.  I have
tested this with the following little script :

if hash encaps 2> /dev/null
 then
  echo Hello !
 else
  echo Loser !
fi

which effectively returns `Loser !' rather than `Hello !'.  So I don't
understand why the compile script trys to run `objdump -k ...' instead of
`objcopy ...'  Can anyone explain ?

My understanding of all this is pretty scant.  Maybe there is
something behind the scenes that I can't see with my little analysis.  If
someone could confirm that "rm 'which encaps'" will indeed solve the
problem, it would be greatly appreciated.  (If that someone had the time and
inclination, I'd love to know the how and why of the solution !)


Thanks all for your help,

Gerald Crimp


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HP Laserjet 4000 T

[Mario Filipe]

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The bosses arround here have bought one of these. Our problem now is that when
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right filter for this one, and how can we force the FF?

Thanks

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Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions

[Johann Spies]

On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Bob Hilliard wrote:

>  /dev/ttyS0 should have 660 permissions.  I frequently find my
> /dev/ttyS1 has changed to 640.  This can be caused by pppd terminating
> abnormally, and perhaps by other events.

Is there some place in the documentation where one can see what the
permissions of different files should be on a standard Debian system or is
this list the way to find out information like this?  

I know that I saw some instructions in Howto's or in installation README's
on permissions, but how do I for example find out what /tmp 's permissions
should be if restore screwed mine up - as has happened before.

Johann


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Re: Exim Problem

[Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131]

>> > >> Do you have this in /etc/host.conf?
>> > >> 
>> > >> order hosts,bind
>> > >> 
>> > >> this should tell DNS to look in /etc/hosts before looking into named
>> > >> (or at least this is what I think it should do :)
>> > 
>> > Yep that is what is in my /etc/host.conf file. and it still don't work, it
look
>> > to me like exim and smail (which I have tried on my second machine) as
just
>> > doing a DNS lookup and ignoring the /etc/host.conf file.  I have
configured
>> > both exim and smail using the debian config programs. and selected option
1,
>> > internet mail, as the other options don't seem to take into account if you
are
>> > not connected to the internet,  I think the problem is that my nameserver
is
>> > just a cacheing name server and so doesn't do reverse lookups,  
>> 
>> Why shouldn't a cache DNS server cache reverse lookup? Have you tried this?
>> I'm asking this because I usually work in closed domains (i.e. no connection
>> to the net) so I have to build my DNS server and don't use cache server that
>> much.

well I have finally fixed this problem, I had to configure a full namserver as
for some reason, a cacheing nameserver just didn't so the job, I even tried
smail to see if it was a exim problem and the same thing happened.
 
>> > Could this be the problem or should I reconfigre exim/smail using the
config
>> > progam?  If I reconfigure them using the config program which option
should I
>> > use?
>> 
>> Well, I don't know, sorry. I've just started playing with exim, and as you
see
>> (my msg to the list) I have my problems with it too.
>> There doesn't seem to be a lot of exim expert these days. :(
>> Sorry I can't be much help
>> 
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Re: Boot Disk Failures

[Ulisses Alonso Camaro]

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Hello Dale!

On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, G.Dale Miller wrote:

> I am having trouble with the boot disks from April. I boot up with the
> rescue floppy
> and it start up with the loading root... etc.. Eventually it says
> boot failed press and
> key to try again. Are there problems with these disk2 and pentium2
> boards.

It sounds to me is a problem with the floppy disk, try with another one
and/or format it before with some kind of good tools for floopy disk
formatting (safe format -- sforma.exe fron Norton Utilities is great and
works under dosemu)

I hope this helps

Ulisses
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Error when booting

[Julian Easterling]

I mistakenly sent the following to one person when I meant to send it to the
list.  To Oliver, sorry that you have to read this twice.
Message Follows:
I did that and I it still won't boot from the hard drive.  I think these
type of problems is what made me give up Linux last year when I tried.  I am
determined to not let my ignorance get in the way this time.  Have any other
suggestions.  I am beginning to consider reinstalling the base system again
but this is the 4th time I have installed the base so I am assuming that it
is something I am not doing right during the install.  The computer is an
AMD 586-75 running at 100mhz, 32MB of mem, ISA only motherboard with Award
4.50 BIOS, Cirrus Logic 5426 VL-Bus video card, a NE-2000 net card and a i/o
board, the hard drive is a Conner 540 MB.  Right now it connected to the
network at work, but if I can get it to work, I plan on bringing it home to
create a network of 4 other computer to dial in to the internet and provide
some protection for 2 windoze computers.  Thanks in advance for anyone who
can help with this problem.  I have read the man pages for lilo,
experimented with different settings in lilo.conf and I have read through
all of the FAQ's at www.debian.org and www.linux.org.


 


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Coker College Hartsville, SC  USA
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Re: TCP/IP Network +WIN95

[Johan Berglund]

>I have a local network that consists of 2 win95 and 1 debian box.
>The debian box has an isdn connection to the Internet.
>There is one Problem:
>The win95 boxes make the debian box dial exactly dial every 5 minutes,
>each. This is getting very expensive.

I have experienced this problem to.
It was something with DNS request,
but I don´t remember if it was the
Linux box or the Win that caused
the problem.
Try to disable DNS requests from 
the computers one at a time.
Are you using diald?
Is it possible to "block-out"
DNS requests?


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Re: MUTT...the final configs

[Norbert Veber]

On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 12:57:02AM -0400, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> 
> As per that big pine discussion I decided to try mutt...
> I used it for about 5 mins...and think I would like to continue using it.
> I believe I have the version from non-us (a coupla weeks ago I burned
> a CD at work with the entire non-us portion of debian on it...
> along with non-free and some goodies)
> here is what I need to make mutt usefull to me and stop using pine
> (btw I do like mutts speed alot)
> I think I asked part of this before but didn't quite get it:
> 1) how do I set it up to automatically sign and/or encrypt messages with
> PGP? also should automatically check sigs / unencrypt when I view 
> the message (I already have pine doing this just fine)

in ~/.muttrc put:
set pgp_autosign
^ thats all you really need
these might also be usefull:
set pgp_encryptself
set pgp_replyencrypt
set pgp_replysign

as for checking signatures, it does that by default.

> 2) I have the following mailboxes -
> INBOX ZZ-INBOX  debian-devel ZZ-debian-devel debian-user ZZ-debian-user 
> BUGTRAQ ZZ-BUGTRAQ
> anything normal is an incommin gfolder (not defined as one in pine but..
> procmail delivers directly to it)
> and enything with a ZZ is where pine automatically puts
> messages after I have read them
> as you can see im on debian-user and debian-devel ...
> getting a few hundred e-mail messages a day I need this
> can mutt do this? if so how..if not...
> are there alrenatives?

it can move read mail, I forgot how though, look at the documentation..
these options might also be usfull:
folder-hook . set sort=date-sent   <- default sorting
folder-hook *Linux-Kernel* set sort=threads  <- any folders matching *blah*
are sorted by tread
folder-hook *Bugtraq* set sort=threads
folder-hook *debian* set sort=threads
set record="=sent-mail" <- copies mail you send to this
   folder
set nomark_old  <- prevents that (for me) annoying O mark on
   messages you've seen but not read


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kde dont work

[Alain Toussaint]

i installed kde tonight,also started it but it gave me these error
messages:

kwm: cannot connect to X server
~$ kcmbell: cannot connect to X server
kpanel: cannot connect to X server
kbgndwm: cannot connect to X server
krootwm: cannot connect to X server
kcminput: cannot connect to X server
Starting audio server with talk id 0.
kfm: cannot connect to X server

does X have to be running when i do the command startkde ???

p.s.i used to have X running at boot but when i rebooted (after the kde
install),i was no more having an xterm so i couldn't start kde when X was
up,if i need to start it,which file i need to modify so it start when X
get started ???

also,the kde version is the Beta4 from bo-unstable.

thanks a lot.
Alain



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Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions

[Rev. Joseph Carter]

On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 11:14:06PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote:
> > >  /dev/ttyS0 should have 660 permissions.  I frequently find my
> > > /dev/ttyS1 has changed to 640.  This can be caused by pppd terminating
> > > abnormally, and perhaps by other events.
> > 
> > I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!  heh
> > 
> > Sounds like a bug to file against pppd if not already there, yes?
> 
>  I don't think so.  When it starts, pppd mopdifies the permissions,
> and resets them when it exits.  If it is stopped with a kill -9, which
> is what I did to test this, it has no chance to clean up.  If anything,
> its a bug against the user (me) who sent the kill -9.

I never kill -9 it, but often have it end up like that.  pppd does screw it
up in normal operation.


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an exim expert, please REPOST

[Marco Frattola]

Sorry to repost, but got no answer, so maybe this message got lost ..

Hi all,
I'm trying to switch from sendmail to exim, and I'm facing some problems.
I have a small net and a dialup connection to internet. Since only some accounts
on one machine are enabled to internet mail usage, I'd like to rewrite headers
to supply correct reply-to and From field (and maybe some host masquerading,
since my small net has no offical IP/DNS enties) for mail leaving my net, while
maintaining as is for internal mail user. I'd also like to keep it trasparent
to users (i.e. not using MUA headers rewrite)

Here are the simple rules for rewriting I'm trying (and failing) to implement:

Source Addr Dest. Addr  Rule
userA   UserB   don't do anything (local mail)
userA   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   don't do anything (LAN mail), route it
userA   [EMAIL PROTECTED] rewrite From,Reply-To and route thru IPS 
mailhub

Here are the relevant parts from my exim.conf

qualify_domain = machine.my.net
local_domains = localhost:@

...

# ROUTERS CONFIG

# for LAN mail
lookuphost:
  driver = lookuphost,
  domains = "*.my.net",
  transport = smtp;

# for internet mail
smarthost:
  driver = domainlist,
  transport = smtp,
  route_list = "* my.isp.mailhub byname";

...

# REWRITE CONFIGURATION

# for outbound mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "[EMAIL PROTECTED] match {$h_to:} {my.net} {my.net} {my.isp} 
}"  Ffrs

This rule doesn't seem to work. I read this (but I'm surely wrong)

for every addr, if the To: header matches "my.net", let it go, else go with 
my.isp

The effect of the above rule is that all mail except local have rewritten 
headers. It looks to me that the problem is with $h_to:
Can somebody shed some light on what I'm doing wrong, or suggest a better 
approach?
Thanks

PS: I think exim should become debian default MTA.
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MUTT...the final configs

[Stephen Carpenter]

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As per that big pine discussion I decided to try mutt...
I used it for about 5 mins...and think I would like to continue using it.
I believe I have the version from non-us (a coupla weeks ago I burned
a CD at work with the entire non-us portion of debian on it...
along with non-free and some goodies)
here is what I need to make mutt usefull to me and stop using pine
(btw I do like mutts speed alot)
I think I asked part of this before but didn't quite get it:
1) how do I set it up to automatically sign and/or encrypt messages with
PGP? also should automatically check sigs / unencrypt when I view 
the message (I already have pine doing this just fine)
2) I have the following mailboxes -
INBOX ZZ-INBOX  debian-devel ZZ-debian-devel debian-user ZZ-debian-user 
BUGTRAQ ZZ-BUGTRAQ
anything normal is an incommin gfolder (not defined as one in pine but..
procmail delivers directly to it)
and enything with a ZZ is where pine automatically puts
messages after I have read them
as you can see im on debian-user and debian-devel ...
getting a few hundred e-mail messages a day I need this
can mutt do this? if so how..if not...
are there alrenatives?
- -Steve


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Re: DNS/Non-authoritative answer trouble

[Stephen Carpenter]

I get the same thing...
I don't think this needs to be "fixed"
I believe this is correct...
in any case I have never seen it be wrong even whan it says that...
have you seen any wrong entries with it?
might be a good idea to seek out what "non-authoritative" means
before trying to fix it ;)
-Steve


On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

> 
> When I use nslookup to resolve my DNS name, it gives a 'Non-authoritative
> answer'..  How can I fix this?  Below is the relevant named configuration
> (I'm using the lasted BIND from Debian/hamm+unstable): 
> 
> -
> ; name resolution for 3dillusion.com
> 
> @ IN  SOA ns.3dillusion.com. root.3dillusion.com. (
>   1998042903  ; serial (ccyymmddxx)
>   86400   ; refresh = 1 day
>   1800; retry = 1/2 hour
>   2592000 ; expire = 30 days
>   86400   ; minimum = 1 day
> )
>   IN  NS  ns.3dillusion.com.
> 
> ; domain 3dillusion.com
> 
> @ IN  A   198.109.162.43
>   IN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
>   IN  HINFO   i586Linux
> 
> ; server
> 
> serv1 IN  A   198.109.162.43
> serv1 IN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
> serv1 IN  HINFO   i586Linux
> serverIN  CNAME   serv1.3dillusion.com.
> 
> ; primary name server
> 
> nsIN  A   198.109.162.43
> nsIN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
> nameserverIN  CNAME   ns.3dillusion.com.
> 
> ; mail server
> 
> mail  IN  A   198.109.162.43
> mail  IN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
> postofficeIN  CNAME   mail.3dillusion.com.
> 
> ; other hosts
> 
> ftp   IN  CNAME   serv1.3dillusion.com.
> www   IN  CNAME   serv1.3dillusion.com.
> 
> 
> I don't ever remember this being a problem before.  The SOA record looks
> correct to me..  Has anything changed with the recent versions of BIND?
> 
> Thanks
> -Paul
> 
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compiling joystick.o

[Corey Miller]

I'm trying to compile the module for joystick support, but when I
make joystick.o and try to load it with insmod I get this error:

mstie# insmod joystick.o
joystick.o: kernel-module version mismatch
joystick.o was compiled for kernel version 2.0.32
while this kernel is version 2.0.33.

I am running 2.0.33, and have 2.0.33 in /usr/src/linux. If anyone
could point out my mistake, I would really appreciate it.

Corey

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Re: lib problem with netscape 4.05

[deniz]

Hi,

> "Alex" ==   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>  Any ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.

Alex> Install xlib6 (not xlib6g) and libc5 packages.

I think list is too long. libc5, xlib6, xpm4.7 and now:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~$/usr/local/netscape/netscape 
/usr/local/netscape/netscape: can't load library 'libg++.so.27'

Isn`t there a netscape version compiled against libc6?

Thanks.

Deniz Dogan


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Re: TCP/IP Network +WIN95

[Lee Bradshaw]

You could try running tcpdump to see which packets are causing the
dialing.  If you can make all the machines idle, there shouldn't be too
much traffic.  I would guess the packets are from netbios ports on the
windows machine to the DNS port on you DNS server.  I had to block ports
137-139 for both TCP and UDP traffic on my router.  I think windows may
only use 137/tcp, 138/tcp and 139/udp, but I blocked all six of the
combinations to make sure.  

On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 01:46:11AM +0200, Florian Attenberger wrote:
> I have a local network that consists of 2 win95 and 1 debian box.
> The debian box has an isdn connection to the Internet.
> There is one Problem:
> The win95 boxes make the debian box dial exactly dial every 5 minutes,
> each. This is getting very expensive.
> 
> Is there a possibility to get win95 to NOT doing this thing every 5
> minutes
> 
> How could i make i little script for win95 to do manual dialup remotely,
> only when needed, if the above isn't possible???

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Re: TCP/IP Network +WIN95

[Stephen Carpenter]

I dunno what to tell you about the Win95 boxes and dialing every 5 mins :(
I used to do it this way:
I had a linux server with no monitor (oh sure its a minor detail...
until you need to reboot it and find out hours later there was
a bootable CD in the CD drive (but I digress))
I would telnet to the linux machine and run pppd 
if you don't know what is causing the dialing (win95 must be looking for
osmething weird)
then its not easy to stop it...
you could run a network sniffer and watch for what happens every 5 mins...
are the win95 machines running anything weird like D4time (a time
syncronizer)?
maybe it is a problem with it using TCP/IP...you could try
telling the WIndoze machines to use a differnt default protocol...
hmm...
are you sure the windows machines are doing it?
have you run with all of the winDOS machines off and seen
if it still does it?
wish  could help more...hopefully some of this will lead you on the right
track
-Steve


On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Florian Attenberger wrote:

> I have a local network that consists of 2 win95 and 1 debian box.
> The debian box has an isdn connection to the Internet.
> There is one Problem:
> The win95 boxes make the debian box dial exactly dial every 5 minutes,
> each. This is getting very expensive.
> 
> Is there a possibility to get win95 to NOT doing this thing every 5
> minutes
> 
> How could i make i little script for win95 to do manual dialup remotely,
> only when needed, if the above isn't possible???
> 
> 
> 
> Thanx very much,
> 
> Florian Attenberger
> 
> 
> 
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Re: lib problem with netscape 4.05

[deniz]

Hi,

> "Noah" == Noah L Meyerhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Noah> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 29 Apr 1998
Noah> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~$/usr/local/netscape/netscape
>> /usr/local/netscape/netscape: can't load library 'libXt.so.6'
>> 

Noah> Try # setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH /usr/X11R6/lib (if using
Noah> csh/tcsh) or # export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib (if
Noah> using bash/sh/ksh(?))

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~$export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~$/usr/local/netscape/netscape  
/usr/local/netscape/netscape: can't load library 'libc.so.5'

I`ll install libc5 as Alex Yukhimets suggested.

Thanks both of you.

Deniz Dogan


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Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions

[Bob Hilliard]

"Rev. Joseph Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >  /dev/ttyS0 should have 660 permissions.  I frequently find my
> > /dev/ttyS1 has changed to 640.  This can be caused by pppd terminating
> > abnormally, and perhaps by other events.
> 
> I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!  heh
> 
> Sounds like a bug to file against pppd if not already there, yes?

 I don't think so.  When it starts, pppd mopdifies the permissions,
and resets them when it exits.  If it is stopped with a kill -9, which
is what I did to test this, it has no chance to clean up.  If anything,
its a bug against the user (me) who sent the kill -9.

Bob
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Re: display postscript

[Damir J. Naden]

Hi David B Wilson; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
> Is there any sort of display postscript support in Linux?
> David

Maybe ghostview_*.deb or gv_*.deb?

Regards
DamirN


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Re: Debian Linux and W95 coexist?

[shaul]

/usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Partition.gz could be helpful (attached to your email).

> -- [ From: Herb Howe * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] --
> 
> Just received Debian Linux on the LSL CD which will be used on a shared
> Pentium which already has Windows 95 installed. The installation
> instructions look straight forward with one exception. It is not clear
> whether the installation routine is designed to overwrite what is
> already on the hard disk or if only the unused part of the disk will be
> used. Could someone please point me to a discussion of this and/or more
> basic information about disk partitioning? This must be an elementary
> question but is not apparent in the FAQs.



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Re: Quota on Mail systems

[Paul Miller]

On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Pete's mailing list account wrote:

> 
> On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Chris wrote:
> 
> > This quota works fine and enforces the limit correctly when a user
> > attempts to put any files in that filesystem via the shell - but when a
> > user recieves mail it is placed into their mail file - regardless of their
> > disk quota.  So affectively the mail system is quotaless.
> 
> Chris,
> 
>   It's actually a linux kernel bug crawling through your system at
> this very moment.  Whatever program puts mail into mailboxes is doing so
> as root and then chown's the mailbox back to the original owner.  This
> process doesn't slam into quotas the way that it should, unless you're
> lucky like me and are using procmail as your local delivery agent, in
> which case users experienced bounced mail as soon as they go over
> softquota.
> 
>   I believe a kernel bug is open regarding this, but I wouldn't hold
> your breath about it.
> 
> --Pete


How is it a kernel bug? .. If the program is suid'd to run a root,
shouldn't it assume the root's quota (none) instead of the user's?  To me
it sounds like a MTA bug..  QMail works just fine for me..

-Paul


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Re: [SOLVED] DNS/Non-authoritative answer trouble

[Paul Miller]

I figured it out with a little playing around..  I guess BIND has gotten a
little more strict with its format because I never had this problem
before.  Oh well, it's fixed now.

-Paul

On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

> 
> When I use nslookup to resolve my DNS name, it gives a 'Non-authoritative
> answer'..  How can I fix this?  Below is the relevant named configuration
> (I'm using the lasted BIND from Debian/hamm+unstable): 
> 
> -
> ; name resolution for 3dillusion.com
> 
> @ IN  SOA ns.3dillusion.com. root.3dillusion.com. (

^^ changed to 3dillusion.com.

>   1998042903  ; serial (ccyymmddxx)
>   86400   ; refresh = 1 day
>   1800; retry = 1/2 hour
>   2592000 ; expire = 30 days
>   86400   ; minimum = 1 day
> )
>   IN  NS  ns.3dillusion.com.
> 
> ; domain 3dillusion.com
> 
> @ IN  A   198.109.162.43

^ "@" removed

>   IN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
>   IN  HINFO   i586Linux
> 
> ; server
> 
> serv1 IN  A   198.109.162.43
> serv1 IN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
> serv1 IN  HINFO   i586Linux
> serverIN  CNAME   serv1.3dillusion.com.
> 
> ; primary name server
> 
> nsIN  A   198.109.162.43
> nsIN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
> nameserverIN  CNAME   ns.3dillusion.com.
> 
> ; mail server
> 
> mail  IN  A   198.109.162.43
> mail  IN  MX  100 mail.3dillusion.com.
> postofficeIN  CNAME   mail.3dillusion.com.
> 
> ; other hosts
> 
> ftp   IN  CNAME   serv1.3dillusion.com.
> www   IN  CNAME   serv1.3dillusion.com.
> 
> 
> I don't ever remember this being a problem before.  The SOA record looks
> correct to me..  Has anything changed with the recent versions of BIND?
> 
> Thanks
> -Paul
> 
> 
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Re: Quota on Mail systems

[Pete's mailing list account]

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Chris wrote:

> This quota works fine and enforces the limit correctly when a user
> attempts to put any files in that filesystem via the shell - but when a
> user recieves mail it is placed into their mail file - regardless of their
> disk quota.  So affectively the mail system is quotaless.

Chris,

It's actually a linux kernel bug crawling through your system at
this very moment.  Whatever program puts mail into mailboxes is doing so
as root and then chown's the mailbox back to the original owner.  This
process doesn't slam into quotas the way that it should, unless you're
lucky like me and are using procmail as your local delivery agent, in
which case users experienced bounced mail as soon as they go over
softquota.

I believe a kernel bug is open regarding this, but I wouldn't hold
your breath about it.

--Pete




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Off Topic: Toddler property laws - Humor

[George R]

Forwarded from:  HENRY L. BUNCH,FIC([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Toddler Property Laws


 1. If I like it, it's mine.

 2. If it's in my hand, it's mine.

 3. If I can take it from you, it's mine.

 4. If I had it a little while ago, it's mine.

 5. If it's mine, it must never appear to be yours in any way.

 6. If I'm doing or building something, all the pieces are mine. 

 7. If it looks just like mine, it's mine.

 8. If I think it's mine, it's mine.

 9. If it's yours and I steal it, it's mine.

10. If I ... Whoops! Sorry! I goofed! Instead of reading the Toddle 
Property
Laws, I've been reading Microsoft's Business Plan.



I thought you may find this funny.

Skip
 

reply to:
grimel
@icx   Sorry for the trouble, I'm just getting to much spam.

.net




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display postscript

[David B Wilson]

Is there any sort of display postscript support in Linux?
David


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Re: /dev/ttyS0 permissions

[Bob Nielsen]

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 08:40:35PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote:
> >  /dev/ttyS0 should have 660 permissions.  I frequently find my
> > /dev/ttyS1 has changed to 640.  This can be caused by pppd terminating
> > abnormally, and perhaps by other events.
> 
> I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!  heh
> 
> Sounds like a bug to file against pppd if not already there, yes?
> 

Yes, it had 640 permissions.  Sounds like a bug to me also.  Thanks to all
who responded for the suggestions.

Bob


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iBCS compiling

[Steve Izma]

I'm trying to compile iBCS for kernel 2.0.30. I've gotten the
source code tar file: ibcs_970212.orig.tar from the August 1997
Info Magic disks. The code compiles easily enough and installs.
Using insmod iBCS does not produce a kernel mis-match, but the
loading fails with:

/lib/modules/misc/iBCS: unresolved symbol apic_reg

I can't find any reference to this symbol in the .c or .h files
among the source. It sounds like this version of iBCS depends on
the installation of another module but I can't find any
indication of what that should be.

Has anyone know how to deal with this problem?

Also, is there a way of using the binary of iBCS that is supplied
with any particular debian release with kernel versions other
than the one that comes in that release?

Thanks,

--Steve Izma, Wilfrid Laurier University Press
Waterloo, Ont., Canada N2L 3C5
(519) 884-0710 ext. 6125 FAX: (519) 725-1399
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