Re: [rferreiras@codetel.net.do: Problena]

1998-06-14 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
 En mi Computadora no existe el directorio /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound
 tan solo /usr/scr y punto esta vacio no puedo configurar ningun
 dispositivo extra
 tampoco existe un archivo que se llame xconfig en nungun directorio
 podria alguien decirma como arreglo esto. necesito instalar mi Tarjeta
 de sonido
 
Necesitas instalar el paquete kernel-sources-2.0.X donde X es la version
que estes usando (uname -r te dirá la que es). Una vez instalado puedes
configurar y compilar un nuevo núcleo que incluya tu tarjeta de sonido.

Luis.


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http://web.fdn.fr/~tquinot/libX11-XF3.3.1.tar.gz

1998-06-14 Thread J. Parera
Alguien puede pasarme la librería parcheada de tomas quinot? La lib5.
http://web.fdn.fr/~tquinot/libX11-XF3.3.1.tar.gz

Yo por muchas veces que lo intento no consigo bajarmela. Agradecería que me
la pasasen por mail.

Saludos,
  J. Parera


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La impresora ha dejado de funcionar

1998-06-14 Thread J. Parera
La impresora, HP Deskjet 690C la tenía bien configurada, lo hice con el
magicfilter, y me funcionaba pero de repente me ha dejado de funcionar y no
se el porque. Al ejecutar lpr fichero el ordenador me devuelve, en unos
instantes, el mensaje lp: Driver configured but no interfaces found. Ese
mensaje se ba repitiendo cada X tiempo en el promt.

He verificado el fichero /var/spool/lp/hpdj690c/status.lp y contiene el
siguiente mensaje:

Cannot open '/dev/lp0/' - 'No such device or addres', sleeping at
(fecha cualquiera)

La impresora la tengo en lpt1, tal y como se llama su puerto en ms-dos.
Osease en lp0 en Linux, tambien he probado lp1, por si acaso, y me da el
mismo resultado. Aunque el problema creo que no viene de aqui sinó de
'...but no interfaces found'. Que debo hacer para poder volver a imprimir?

Saludos,
  J. Parera

P.D.
 Al arrancar Linux todos los servers que arrancan, osease Starting kerneld o
lo que sea, desde que fichero se configura?

El driver del cdrom debe estar compilado en el kernel o como modulo?


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Re: apache suexec -- mode 0755?

1998-06-14 Thread storm
On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

 On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Gergely Madarasz wrote:
  If you set suexec up in /etc/suid.conf then it wont mess with it afaik.
  Thats what suidmanager is for.
 no..  when updating apache, the installation script modifies
 /etc/suid.conf too...  I think I'll send a bug report to better handle
 suexec.

If you use suidregister correctly it won't.  Read the Fine manpage, it
tells you how to get it to keep across upgrades (hint, if you register
something without a package name, it doesn't get overridden).

 ... I really just wanted to know whether 4711 was still the correct mode
 for suexec or not.

Yes.


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Re: HELP: w/ grep on a log file.

1998-06-14 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Johann Spies wrote:

 Hallo, 
 
 Sorry if this bores you, but I have never used sed before and after
 reading this discussion I checked the man page for sed.
 
 What I would like to know is the following:
 
 On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Steve Mayer wrote:
 
Try grep `date \+ %a %b %d\ | sed 's/ //'` arch.log
   ^ ^
  dave oswald wrote:
 
   grep echo  \`date + %a %b %d | sed 's/ //'`\ arch.log
  ^   ^  
 What is the meaning of the ` before date and after //'?
 What was wrong with dave oswald's effort? 

My understanding is that commands between the (`)'s pass their output as
the parameter.

Try   echo `hostname`   or suchlike

 Why wouldn't 
 
 grep \`date + %a %b %d | sed 's/ //'`\ arch.log
 
 work?

grep expects one string for its pattern input. enclosing it in quotes ()
makes it one string. using \ is an escape to tell grep to look for a  in
the file, but just  bounds the pattern to search for.

i.e.

grep hello world file
looks for the string  'hello world' in the file 'file' wheras:

grep \hello world\ file
looks for the string  'hello' in the files 'world' and 'file' and:

grep \hello world\ file
looks for the string 'hello world' in the file 'file'.

Hope that helps.

For all the grep gurus out there, correct me if I am wrong.. PLEASE!

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ISP Connection + Misc.

1998-06-14 Thread Dennis Dixon
For reasons explained later in this post I needed to reinstall Debian from
scratch.  This time around I had trouble connecting to my ISP.  Although I
finally fixed the problem it appears to be either a (sort of) bug or
something nonstandard with my ISP.  Anyway, I thought it was worth mentioning.

What I did:
   edited - /etc/ppp.chatscript   inserted phone # username password
  - /etc/ppp.options_out  changed '/dev/modem' to '/dev/ttyS3'
  - /etc/ppp/pap-secrets  inserted 'username * password' above 
   '  os   *  password'
  - /etc/hosts.allow   added 'ALL : LOCAL'
   new file - /etc/resolv.conf'search myISP.org
   nameserver   xxx.xxx.xx.xx
   nameserver   xxx.xxx.xx.xx'


The Problem:  worked manually:  exec pppd connect  \
'chat -v -f /etc/ppp.chatscript'
-detach crtscts modem defaultroute  \
user username  \
/dev/ttyS338400

  with 'pon' wouldn't connect, various error messages:
  IPCP timeout sending Config-Requests
  LCP terminated at peer's request
  serial line is looped back
  sometimes locks up and need to reboot


The Solution:  edited /etc/ppp.options_out by inserting  'user username'
   before '/dev/ttyS3'

I'm guessing that the first time I installed Debian I accidentally did
something to ppp.chatscript to make it wait for the ISP to request the
username, but this time the username needed to be in the ppp.options_out
script also since by the time the ISP requested username chatscript was
already closed.

This is merely a wild guess.  But since nowhere in the instructions does it
say to add your username to ppp.options_out I thought it was worth mentioning.

Being a new user of Debian I also have some miscellaneous questions, which
might seem simplistic to others but would be helpful if answered.

1) In the error message above, does peer refer to my ISP, not my Debian
machine?  It appears that way to me, but I'm not sure.

2)  pon (and also 'exec pppd') only works when logged on as root.  Is it
supposed to be that way?  Shouldn't you be able to access the Internet when
logged in as a 'user'?  If so, how do I change this?  

3)  In 'dselect' how do you safely remove packages without destroying all
your previously installed files.  I think this is why I had to reinstall
Debian in the first place.  I went to 'deselect' and then 'remove packages'
and it started deleting like crazy.  What is the proper procedure?  (e.g. go
to the 'select' option and put a '+' near only those to delete and '-'
everything else?)

4) Which command starts XFree86, 'xdm' or 'xstart'?  When installing XFree86
it asks if you want 'xdm' to start at boot time.  Then warns that if the
monitor isn't configured yet this could cause problems. Will answering yes
actually bring up a graphical interface at boot time?  The safe answer would
be 'no', but then what initialization file do I change later when I want it
to start at boot time?

5) Last, and this may seem really silly, but what is the correct way to log
off and turn off the machine.  I've been just turning off the computer at
the 'login' prompt, but when I reboot I get messages such as '... not
cleanly unmounted' leading me to believe I'm not doing things correctly.

Thanks for any help.   
Dennis Dixon
P.O. Box 1896 
Fort Bragg, CA  95437

(707) 964-2979
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Re: Install/Uninstall dramas (novice user)

1998-06-14 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Ed Cogburn wrote:

 Terence Kearns wrote:
[snip]
   Are you using the Midnight Commander (MC) file manager?  If so the easy 
 way
 is to step into (using MC's VFS capability - with cursor line on tarball,
 press enter) the tar file on one panel so you can see all the files/dirs of
 the tarball, and use the tarball itself as a guide as you delete related
 files/dirs in the other panel.  MC should be required software, its that
 good.

DEFINITELY!


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HELP! Spammer using my system !

1998-06-14 Thread matthew tebbens

I suspect a spammer is using my system to relay or queue spam !

I'm using smail 3.2-3.
How do I check, know its being used as a relay ?
How do I stop this ASAP ?
How do I find the spammer ?

Thanks,
Matthew


Some data from /var/log/smail/logfile might help
-
06/13/1998 21:03:17: [m0ykxmp-000NUHC] destination supports esmtp
PIPELINING
06/13/1998 21:03:17: [m0ykxmy-000NUIC] destination supports esmtp
PIPELINING
06/13/1998 21:03:18: [m0ykxmp-000NUHC] Delivered VIA:smtp.infoasis.com
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ORIG-TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:inet_hosts
TRANSPORT:smtp
06/13/1998 21:03:18: [m0ykxmy-000NUIC] Delivered
VIA:indy.discovery-intl.com TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ORIG-TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:inet_hosts TRANSPORT:smtp
06/13/1998 21:03:26: [m0yl1Ce-000NXFC] Received FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HOST:ALDERSSTUDIO.COM [206.175.102.17] PROTOCOL:smtp PROGRAM:in.smtpd
ORIG-ID: SIZE:4199
06/13/1998 21:03:30: [m0ykxmp-000NUHC] destination supports esmtp 8BITMIME
SIZE
06/13/1998 21:03:31: [m0ykxmp-000NUHC] Delivered VIA:mail.diamondpeak.com
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ORIG-TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:inet_hosts
TRANSPORT:smtp
06/13/1998 21:03:32: [m0ykxmp-000NUHC] destination supports esmtp, but is
buggy (250-wwwebzone.iqtinc.com
250-HELP
250-EXPN
250-XREMOTEQUEUE
250-PIPELINING
250 SIZE)
06/13/1998 21:03:34: [m0ykxmy-000NUIC] Delivered VIA:smtp.discusdental.com
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ORIG-TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:inet_hosts
TRANSPORT:smtp
06/13/1998 21:03:35: [m0ykxmp-000NUHC] Delivered VIA:iqtinc.com
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ORIG-TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:inet_hosts
TRANSPORT:smtp



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Re: gcc can't compile, egcc can!??

1998-06-14 Thread Zack Weinberg

C vs. C++ aside, there's a real problem here.  The symbols
__libc_init_first and _environ ought to be defined in libc.so; I'd
guess that gcc isn't telling the linker to pull in libc.

What do you get if you do this:

gcc -v -o hello hello.c

[Note I'm not actually on the mailing list, please cc: me on replies.]

zw


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Re: Install/Uninstall dramas (novice user)

1998-06-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jun 14, 1998 at 11:55:37AM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote:
  files/dirs in the other panel.  MC should be required software, its that
  good.
 
 DEFINITELY!

I have been running Linux for some two years and Debian for more than one,
and certainly haven't required MC yet. Even standard would be inappropriate
I think -- standard is for things which are standard on a Unix system,
and should probably be as strict as possible to keep the size down.
Optional remains appropriate.


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accessing an Authenticated proxy server

1998-06-14 Thread Chris


This is probably off the topic, but here goes

I am trying to access an authenticated proxy server for doing a POST
operation.  I have done this using perl and a normal proxy server, by
sending the following to the proxy:

POST http://machine.edu/cg-bin/test.pl HTTP/1.0
Host: machine.edu
Pragma: no-cache
Cache-Control: no-cache
Referer: http://machine.edu/index.html
Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Content-length: 16

val=varval2=var  


What do I have to add in to authenicate myself??


Thanks for any help

Chris


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Re: Complex passwords

1998-06-14 Thread Stuart Krivis
On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:

 that password again makes passwd accept it.  This isn't so good - I'd
 like to force these administrators to choose complex passwords.  As it
 stands, one can hit the enter key three times and passwd will enter a
 null password!

I don't know of any way to force passwd to do this. But, there are a
number of password generators around. I use one written in expect.

Maybe you can just make it a policy that the generator has to be used. 

We used to have fun with passwords... things like b0ne.hEad or Uf0o1 :-)



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Re: Complex passwords

1998-06-14 Thread Troy Hanson
Only way I found:  [not extremely hard, but not basic]

Get the source -   shadow_980403_orig_tar.gz

in the file shadow-980403/src/passwd.c

Change line 402 so that it looks like below(get rid of the I am root
test part of the strength test).  Then run the configure script, and
rebuild the passwd suite, then use your new weak-proof passwd. 

to rebuild, in the shadow-980403/src directory, type ./configure, then
'make', after that, type 'make install' (must be done as root)

Here is what the lines should look like after you fix the root kludge.
 
   if ((!obscure(orig, pass, pw) || reuse(pass, pw))) {
printf (TRYAGAIN);
continue;
}

later,
troy

Nathan E Norman wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I'm writing a script to enable non-UNIX types at my work to be able to
 administrate customer accounts.  I'm fairly pleased with what I've got,
 but I've got a question.
 
 The passwd command runs a complexity check on what is entered, and tells
 you if you're picking a password that's too easy.  However, entering
 that password again makes passwd accept it.  This isn't so good - I'd
 like to force these administrators to choose complex passwords.  As it
 stands, one can hit the enter key three times and passwd will enter a
 null password!
 
 The manpage doesn't show me an obvious way to disable this behavior of
 the passwd command (accepting easy passwords).  Is there a way?
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: gcc can't compile, egcc can!??

1998-06-14 Thread servis
On 13 Jun, Zack Weinberg wrote:
 
 C vs. C++ aside, there's a real problem here.  The symbols
 __libc_init_first and _environ ought to be defined in libc.so; I'd
 guess that gcc isn't telling the linker to pull in libc.
 
 What do you get if you do this:
 
 gcc -v -o hello hello.c
 
 [Note I'm not actually on the mailing list, please cc: me on replies.]
 
 zw

Zack,

This is what I get:

% gcc -v -o hello hello.c
gcc version 2.7.2.3
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/cpp -lang-c -v -undef -D__GNUC__=2 
-D__GNUC_MINOR__=7 -D__ELF__ -Dunix -Di386 -Dlinux -D__ELF__ -D__unix__ 
-D__i386__ -D__linux__ -D__unix -D__i386 -D__linux -Asystem(unix) 
-Asystem(posix) -Acpu(i386) -Amachine(i386) hello.c /tmp/ccb01600
GNU CPP version 2.7.2.3 (i386 Linux/ELF)
#include ... search starts here:
#include ... search starts here:
 /usr/local/include
 /usr/i486-linux/include
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/include
 /usr/include
End of search list.
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/cc1 /tmp/ccb01600 -quiet -dumpbase hello.c 
-version -o /tmp/ccc01600
GNU C version 2.7.2.3 (i386 Linux/ELF) compiled by GNU C version 2.7.2.3.
 as -V -Qy /tmp/ccc01600 -o /tmp/ccd01600
GNU assembler version 2.9.1 (i486-linux), using BFD version 2.9.1
 ld -m elf_i386 -dynamic-linker /lib/ld-linux.so.2 -o hello /usr/lib/crt1.o 
/usr/lib/crti.o /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtbegin.o 
-L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3 /tmp/ccd01600 -lgcc -lc -lgcc 
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtend.o /usr/lib/crtn.o
/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `__libc_init_first'
/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `_environ'

Thanks for any input.

Brian



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Re: Install/Uninstall dramas (novice user)

1998-06-14 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 14, 1998 at 11:55:37AM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote:
   files/dirs in the other panel.  MC should be required software, its that
   good.
  
  DEFINITELY!
 
 I have been running Linux for some two years and Debian for more than one,
 and certainly haven't required MC yet. Even standard would be inappropriate
 I think -- standard is for things which are standard on a Unix system,
 and should probably be as strict as possible to keep the size down.
 Optional remains appropriate.


Sorry about my tone... it was supposed to be a :) ...  :)

Anyway, you are right, optional is better, but it is such a good utility.
I am proud to say that I dont know all the tricks of the trade, so
something that does it for me is excellent.. In that respect, it would be
good for new/novice users.


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Re: ISP Connection + Misc.

1998-06-14 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Dennis Dixon wrote:

 4) Which command starts XFree86, 'xdm' or 'xstart'?  When installing XFree86
 it asks if you want 'xdm' to start at boot time.  Then warns that if the
 monitor isn't configured yet this could cause problems. Will answering yes
 actually bring up a graphical interface at boot time?  The safe answer would
 be 'no', but then what initialization file do I change later when I want it
 to start at boot time?

you are after startx.

Yes, answering yes to the xdm question will bring up a graphical login
screen at boot. It would be a good idea to get X configured correctly for
you video card first though. BTW, Your original VT's are still there when
it is started, just type CTRL-ALT-Fx to get to them.

To get xdm to run on boot, change the line no-start-xdm to start-xdm
in /etc/X11/config
You can then directly call '/etc/init.d/xdm start' to get xdm to start
without a reboot.
 
 5) Last, and this may seem really silly, but what is the correct way to log
 off and turn off the machine.  I've been just turning off the computer at
 the 'login' prompt, but when I reboot I get messages such as '... not
 cleanly unmounted' leading me to believe I'm not doing things correctly.

BIG NO-NO!!!  type CTRL-ALT-DEL. thats stops everything and unmounts the
root partition correctly.

other ways: (when logged in)

shutdown -h now   (halt)
halt  (halt)
shudown -r now(reboot)
reboot(reboot)



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Re: gcc can't compile, egcc can!??

1998-06-14 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:51:30 -0500 (CDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 13 Jun, Zack Weinberg wrote:
 What do you get if you do this:
 
 gcc -v -o hello hello.c

This is what I get:

% gcc -v -o hello hello.c
gcc version 2.7.2.3
[...]
 ld -m elf_i386 -dynamic-linker /lib/ld-linux.so.2 -o hello
 /usr/lib/crt1.o /usr/lib/crti.o
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtbegin.o
 -L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3 /tmp/ccd01600 -lgcc -lc -lgcc
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtend.o /usr/lib/crtn.o
/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `__libc_init_first'
/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `_environ'

Hunh.  It is pulling in the C library (-lc).  Next thing is to see
what egcc and/or g++ do differently; can you try the same thing with
either of them?  (I only need to see the link line, so you could do

gcc -c hello.c

egcc -v -o hello hello.o
g++ -v -o hello hello.o

to cut down on the noise a little.)

Also, another thing that might possibly produce this error is if
/usr/lib/libc.so is mangled.  Can you check that that's an ordinary
file containing something like

GROUP { libc.so.6 ld-linux.so.2 libc.a }

please?  It ought to affect both compilers if that's wrong, but it's
worth checking. 

zw


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Re: e2defrag-problem

1998-06-14 Thread John Goerzen
First, I cannot verify this, but I am almost certain that you should
UNMOUNT before running any defrag program!

Secondly, there is no need for defrag on ext2fs systems unless you
have a REALLY weird setup.

John

Wolfgang Gernot Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Im having a problem with the e2defrag-program (debian2.0). I always get
 the following message: 
 
  mother# e2defrag -Vr /dev/sda1
  e2defrag 0.73
  RCS version $Id: defrag.c,v 1.4 1997/08/17 14:23:57 linux Exp $
  
  e2defrag: Error seeking to end of filesystem
  mother# 
 
 The debian-system itself works well... :(
 
 Here are my mounted drives: 
  mother# df
  Filesystem 1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
  /dev/sda12478138 1824826   525196 78%   /
  /dev/sda41019856  711792   308064 70%   /msdos/c
 
 Anyone had luck with defrag?
 
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problem using staroffice 4 (fwd)

1998-06-14 Thread James A . Treacy
The following was sent to webmaster. Hopefully someone here on
debian-user will be able to help them.

Jay Treacy

- Forwarded message from Phillip Neumann -

From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sat Jun 13 07:52:08 1998
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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X-Originating-IP: [206.48.134.101]
From: Phillip Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hi...
Content-Type: text/plain
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:12:16 PDT
X-UIDL: cc05ea2bfe0cf1fb480bf353a91bba19



Hi again, Im Phillip Neumann.

 Im sorry for email you for novices question. Actually i cant subscribe 
to the mail list bescause i have some problems with my ISP. Well the 
other email i wrote your, said that i had problems with the instalation 
of one program. It was StarOffice 4. I was working with glibc and today 
i change to the none-glibc version of debian. I could install staroffice 
without problems. When i read some documents, there said that Staroffice 
cant work with glibc, but i had also programs that requiered glibc. What 
can i do?? I want to work with staroffice, and with my other programs 
too!!.


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ipmasq w/ ipchains?

1998-06-14 Thread Paul Miller

Does anyone have a modified version of ipmasq, which uses ipchains instead
of ipfwadm for 2.1.x kernels?

... or maybe some examples on converting from ipfwadm commands to ipchains
commands ... I'm not seeing any obvious equivalent arguments.  Maybe it's
too late.

Thanks
-Paul


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Re: HELP: w/ grep on a log file.

1998-06-14 Thread Johann Spies

Thanks Michael for a good explanation.

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Re: HELP! Spammer using my system !

1998-06-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:07:32 -0400 (EDT), matthew tebbens wrote:

How do I stop this ASAP ?

killall smail

Not quite the answer you're looking for, but it works.  ;)


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Install problem

1998-06-14 Thread Shanta McBain
Hi all

Here is the problem I have been trying to install Debian from a set of
floppies. Things go well until disk 5 is done and it try's to decompress
the final file for install. It gives and error that it cant install the
file and goes to the next step. I then reboot the system.  It will go
through a hole series of incremental segmentation faults to 33 ending
with
/etc/fstab: no such file or dir.
fsck failed Please repair manually

Control-d will exit   this shell and continue system start up

give root password for maintenance (or type  control-d for normal
startup):

Control-d takes one back to the same point.

Password

rm: /root.bush_profile: Read-only file system
mv: replace '/root/.bush_profile' , overriding mode 0755?
y takes one

asks to change password

cannot lock the password file; try again later
passwrd[47]: can't lock password file.

locked into change password

What now?

I have tried fdisking the disk but it will not remove the partions. to
start again.
drive has dos and extended dos (Linux). What is worng here?

Thanks for your time
Shanta



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Re: HELP! Spammer using my system !

1998-06-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jun 13, 1998 at 10:49:30PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
 On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:07:32 -0400 (EDT), matthew tebbens wrote:
 
 How do I stop this ASAP ?
 
 killall smail
 
 Not quite the answer you're looking for, but it works.  ;)

Actually, it probably won't, because the default way to run smail
is via inetd.


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Re: ISP Connection + Misc.

1998-06-14 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 DD == Dennis Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

DD I'm guessing that the first time I installed Debian I accidentally did
DD something to ppp.chatscript to make it wait for the ISP to request the
DD username, but this time the username needed to be in the ppp.options_out
DD script also since by the time the ISP requested username chatscript was
DD already closed.

DD This is merely a wild guess.  But since nowhere in the instructions does it
DD say to add your username to ppp.options_out I thought it was worth 
mentioning.

The two common ways to log into your isp are pap/chap authentication and
terminal login. pon is preconfigured for terminal login. From the
errormessages you got I believe your isp doesn't support terminal login
but only pap. In this case one has to substitute the username und password
lines in the chapscript with a connect line and add user xyz to the pppd 
options. It looks strange to me that it worked for you without removig the 
lines from the chatscript.

I don't have the pppd package installed, so I can't tel you if this is
described in the docs. Should be in /usr/doc/pppd/debian*. It is described 
in the faq-o-matic at http://www.debian.org/fom/20.html

DD 1) In the error message above, does peer refer to my ISP, not my Debian
DD machine?  It appears that way to me, but I'm not sure.

Me either, because for pppd, both sides are peers. You could add debug
to the pppd options and look in /var/log/ppp.log for a line like
TermReq. Then you will see, if it was sent or received.

DD 2)  pon (and also 'exec pppd') only works when logged on as root.  Is it
DD supposed to be that way?  Shouldn't you be able to access the Internet when
DD logged in as a 'user'?  If so, how do I change this?  

This is a feature. Add a user to the dialout group, and he will be able to 
use pppd. adduser theuser dialout

DD 3)  In 'dselect' how do you safely remove packages without destroying all
DD your previously installed files.  I think this is why I had to reinstall
DD Debian in the first place.  I went to 'deselect' and then 'remove packages'
DD and it started deleting like crazy.  What is the proper procedure?  
DD (e.g. go
DD to the 'select' option and put a '+' near only those to delete and '-'
DD everything else?)

You go to the select option and mark every package you want to install
with + and every package you want to uninstall with - (remove, but leave
the configfiles) or _ (also remove config files). Then you coose install / 
remove to perform the actual action. Maybe you pressed - on a chapter
like installed packages ? Or you pressed - for a important package and
agreed to remove all dependant packages on the conflict resolution screen.

[ other questions answered by someone else ]

Ciao,
Martin


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can't locate module

1998-06-14 Thread Marc van der Vossen
Hi all.

I've got a simple question for ya. I'v compiled a new kernel 2.0.34 When i
boot with it all goes well, until it wants to load a module. At that point I
get a message like:
umsdos can't locate module umsdos

How do I solve this ?

Thanks in advance.

Marc
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Re: HELP! Spammer using my system !

1998-06-14 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 mt == matthew tebbens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

mt I suspect a spammer is using my system to relay or queue spam !
mt I'm using smail 3.2-3.

The smail in hamm has anti relay measures. In the logfile you should see 
a Received FROM line for the [m0ykxmp-000NUHC] ID. If it is non-local, It
is most linkely a spammer.

mt How do I stop this ASAP ?

You could add the host the spammer uses to /etc/hosts.deny

mt How do I find the spammer ?

Maybe you could set smail to queue only, so that messages will only be
stored. Then you can make a copy of some of the messages, so you can
inspect the headers.

Ciao,
Martin


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swaping - raid

1998-06-14 Thread Deniz Dogan
Hi,

To use kernel`s raid0 support for swap partitions, I added
these two lines to /etc/fstab

/dev/hdc2   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hda1   noneswapsw  0   0

But boot messages says these partitions have different priorities
(-1 and -2).

Any ideas? Thanks in advance.


From mdutils docs:

  2  Swapping over RAID

  The kernel has native support for distributing swap space over
  several disks.  Just add all swap partitions to /etc/fstab and use
  'swapon -a' to activate all of them.  The kernel uses striping
  (RAID-0) for them.  Here's a sample setup:

  /dev/sda3   noneswapsw
  /dev/sdb3   noneswapsw



From swap(2) man:

   Swap  pages  are  allocated  from areas in priority order,
   highest priority first.  For areas with different  priori-
   ties,  a  higher-priority area is exhausted before using a
   lower-priority area.  If two or more areas have  the  same
   priority,  and it is the highest priority available, pages
   are allocated on a round-robin basis between them.

-- 
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netscape stuff

1998-06-14 Thread Andrew

I have Navigator 4.05, the standalone version, and also Mozilla (from the
.deb package). Navigator 4.05 I installed with the provided script, as
there does not seem to be a .deb package for the Navigator alone, only
Communicator. 

OK, what I want to know is:

How do I get Netscape to open an xterm running pine with an appropriate
address when I click on a mailto: item? There doesn't seem to be any
appropriate helper application entry to edit. 

How come Java isn't working properly? No applet execpt for trivial ones
seem to work. The status bar says they are running, but nothing happens.
Any ideas? 


Andrew Tarr
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Will the new ssh get into hamm?

1998-06-14 Thread Liran Zvibel
Hi.

A new version of ssh was released (today or yesterday).
Will it get into hamm?

(BTW: Since it is the exam season, I unsubscribes (I can't cope with the
bandwidth wile studying to exams) so please post answers to me too.)

Liran Zvibel.

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Re: Will the new ssh get into hamm?

1998-06-14 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Liran Zvibel wrote:

 : A new version of ssh was released (today or yesterday).
 : Will it get into hamm?

Due to cryptographic laws in the USA, that's not as easy at it looks like.
Anyway, it is currently at nonus.debian.org in the Incoming directory.


Hope that helps,
 -Remco


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Re: Install/Uninstall dramas (novice user)

1998-06-14 Thread Carl Fink
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hamish wrote:

I have been running Linux for some two years and Debian for more than one,
and certainly haven't required MC yet. Even standard would be inappropriate
I think -- standard is for things which are standard on a Unix system,
and should probably be as strict as possible to keep the size down.
Optional remains appropriate.

Not that I am experienced enough to suggest a list, but perhaps Debian
should have a Recommended standard setup for inexperienced users?
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Re: gcc can't compile, egcc can!??

1998-06-14 Thread servis
On 14 Jun, Zack Weinberg wrote:
 On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:51:30 -0500 (CDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 13 Jun, Zack Weinberg wrote:
 What do you get if you do this:
 
 gcc -v -o hello hello.c

This is what I get:

% gcc -v -o hello hello.c
gcc version 2.7.2.3
 [...]
 ld -m elf_i386 -dynamic-linker /lib/ld-linux.so.2 -o hello
 /usr/lib/crt1.o /usr/lib/crti.o
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtbegin.o
 -L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3 /tmp/ccd01600 -lgcc -lc -lgcc
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtend.o /usr/lib/crtn.o
/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `__libc_init_first'
/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `_environ'
 
 Hunh.  It is pulling in the C library (-lc).  Next thing is to see
 what egcc and/or g++ do differently; can you try the same thing with
 either of them?  (I only need to see the link line, so you could do
 
 gcc -c hello.c
 
 egcc -v -o hello hello.o
 g++ -v -o hello hello.o
 
 to cut down on the noise a little.)
 

% egcc -v -o hello hello.o
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29/specs
gcc version egcs-2.90.29 980515 (egcs-1.0.3 release)
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29/ld -m elf_i386 -dynamic-linker 
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 -o hello /usr/lib/crt1.o /usr/lib/crti.o 
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29/crtbegin.o 
-L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29 hello.o -lgcc -lc -lgcc 
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29/crtend.o /usr/lib/crtn.o

(note this the the egcs g++)
% g++ -v -o hello hello.o
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29/specs
gcc version egcs-2.90.29 980515 (egcs-1.0.3 release)
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29/ld -m elf_i386 -dynamic-linker 
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 -o hello /usr/lib/crt1.o /usr/lib/crti.o 
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29/crtbegin.o 
-L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29 hello.o -lstdc++ -lm -lgcc -lc -lgcc 
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29/crtend.o /usr/lib/crtn.o

Note:  Package conflicts wouldn't allow both g++272 and egcc to
co-exist on Debian.  So I had to remove egcc, g++ in order to install
g++272.

(note this is the gcc g++)
% g++272 -v -o hello hello.o
 gcc -v -o hello hello.o -lstdc++ -lm
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/specs
gcc version 2.7.2.3
 ld -m elf_i386 -dynamic-linker /lib/ld-linux.so.2 -o hello /usr/lib/crt1.o 
/usr/lib/crti.o /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtbegin.o 
-L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3 hello.o -lstdc++ -lm -lgcc -lc -lgcc 
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtend.o /usr/lib/crtn.o
ld: warning: libm.so.6, needed by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so, may conflict with 
libm.so.5
ld: warning: libc.so.6, needed by /lib/libm.so.6, may conflict with libc.so.5


 Also, another thing that might possibly produce this error is if
 /usr/lib/libc.so is mangled.  Can you check that that's an ordinary
 file containing something like
 
 GROUP { libc.so.6 ld-linux.so.2 libc.a }
 
 please?  It ought to affect both compilers if that's wrong, but it's
 worth checking. 

% cat /usr/lib/libc.so
/* GNU ld script
   Use the shared library, but some functions are only in
   the static library, so try that secondarily.  */
GROUP ( /lib/libc.so.6 /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a )


Thanks,

Brian 


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Re: can't locate module

1998-06-14 Thread Troy Hanson
Sounds like you are trying to load the UMSDOS filesystem as a kernel
module, but you didn't build and install the modules yet, or UMSDOS
wasn't selected as a fileystem type in the config stage.

Go through the kernel config ('make menuconfig' is a quick and easy text
menu), go down to Filesystems, make sure there is an 'M' in front of
UMSDOS.

When that is done, exit and save your new configuraion. To insure
everything is rebuilt and set up properly, do the following:

make dep ; make clean ; make bzlilo ; \
make modules ; make modules_install

(the 'make modules_install' puts the modules under /lib/modules/ver
directory so insmod has a standard place to find them).

Sidenote:  I am finding that 'make bzlilo' is becoming necessary
otherwise I get the 'System too big' error and it won't finish.  You
only need to do this if 'make zlilo' quits with a System too Big
error.  

Hope this helps,
troy

Marc van der Vossen wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 I've got a simple question for ya. I'v compiled a new kernel 2.0.34 When i
 boot with it all goes well, until it wants to load a module. At that point I
 get a message like:
 umsdos can't locate module umsdos
 
 How do I solve this ?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Marc
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fvwm95

1998-06-14 Thread Ralph Winslow
I've just run dselect to try to download xview (I'm running hamm) and it
offered to install ~15-20 packages.  I said go ahead, and now my system,
which had had a nifty W$95 style desktop, seems to be running a blank X
system with one xterm.  I can use it to spawn new xterms and run
netscape (which I'm using to send this),  but I miss being able to click
an Icon to run netscape, and the clock, etc.  ps shows that fvwm95 is
running for me.  What must I do to restore order.  I'm a command-line
kind of guy, I'm afraid I find the X environment a bit daunting.  TIA
for any tips you might have.
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Re: gcc can't compile, egcc can!??

1998-06-14 Thread Zack Weinberg

It looks to me as if the gcc drivers aren't doing anything wrong.  But
this is a big fat clue:

ld: warning: libm.so.6, needed by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so, may conflict with lib
m.so.5
ld: warning: libc.so.6, needed by /lib/libm.so.6, may conflict with libc.so.5

The linker called by gcc/g++ 2.7 is attempting to link your program
with the crt1.o from libc6 but the dynamic library from libc5.  That
implies you have strange environment variable settings or mangled
linker config files.  egcc has a wrapper for ld which is smart enough
to straighten this out.

If you have environment variables named LD_somethingorother
(LD_RUN_PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, etc.) unset them and try again to
compile with gcc 2.7.  Also, do this:

ld --verbose | more

This will produce much incomprehensible output; you care only about
the first few lines, which should read like this:

GNU ld version 2.8.2 (with BFD 2.8.1.0.25)
  Supported emulations:
   elf_i386
   i386linux
using internal linker script:
==
OUTPUT_FORMAT(elf32-i386, elf32-i386,
  elf32-i386)
OUTPUT_ARCH(i386)
ENTRY(_start)
SEARCH_DIR(/lib); SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib); 
SEARCH_DIR(/usr/local/lib); SEARCH_DIR(/usr/elf_i386/lib);

If it doesn't say using internal linker script, or if any of the
SEARCH_DIR entries have the word `libc5' in them, you have a problem
with your linker installation.

% cat /usr/lib/libc.so
/* GNU ld script
   Use the shared library, but some functions are only in
   the static library, so try that secondarily.  */
GROUP ( /lib/libc.so.6 /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a )

*blink* I thought that was only in development libc.  What do you get
if you execute /lib/libc.so.6 as a program?

zw


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Re: VIM

1998-06-14 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
On: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 10:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Nick Moffitt writes:
 
 On 12 Jun 1998, Torsten Hilbrich wrote:
 It is a very useful feature called backing up files ;-)
 
 You can convince vim to not create these files by either editing
 /etc/vimrc (for all user) or ~/.vimrc (on a per-user basis) and add a
 set nobackup line or edit the existing set backup line.
 
   Is there any way to get vim to write numeric backups?  The GNU
 indent program pays attention to an environment variable, and will
 make backup files like foo.~1~ and foo.~2~ if it is set right.

According to the help page there is none.

These are the only configuration options regarding backup I found
there:

|'backup'| |'bk'|   keep backup file after overwriting a file
|'backupdir'|  |'bdir'| list of directories for the backup file
|'backupext'|  |'bex'|  extension used for the backup file
|'writebackup'||'wb'|   make a backup before overwriting a file

Torsten

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Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .

1998-06-14 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

Something keeps splatting my poor daemons.  

lpd tends to die within a day or so, and pland dies within minutes, announcing 
(incorrectly) an application logout.

rick

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Linux install problem

1998-06-14 Thread Shanta McBain
Hi

I have a HD 350 meg Caviar 2340. I cannot change the partitions. Fdisk
says that there are two partition The dos primary and a extended
secondary. It reports that there are logical partitions on the
secondary. Cant delete the secondary partition as the logical partitions
exist. likely the linux primary and swap. It will not delete them as
delete partitions dose not see the partitions.

Is there a linux tool that will fix the problem?

Thanks Shanta


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Re: gcc can't compile, egcc can!??

1998-06-14 Thread servis
On 14 Jun, Zack Weinberg wrote:
 
 It looks to me as if the gcc drivers aren't doing anything wrong.  But
 this is a big fat clue:
 
ld: warning: libm.so.6, needed by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so, may conflict with lib
m.so.5
ld: warning: libc.so.6, needed by /lib/libm.so.6, may conflict with libc.so.5
 
 The linker called by gcc/g++ 2.7 is attempting to link your program
 with the crt1.o from libc6 but the dynamic library from libc5.  That
 implies you have strange environment variable settings or mangled
 linker config files.  egcc has a wrapper for ld which is smart enough
 to straighten this out.
 

% cat /etc/ld.so.conf
/usr/lib/tkstep
/usr/X11R6/lib/neXtaw
/usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw95
/usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d
/usr/X11R6/lib
/usr/lib/libc5-compat
/lib/libc5-compat
/usr/local/X11/lib
/usr/local/lib


 If you have environment variables named LD_somethingorother
 (LD_RUN_PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, etc.) unset them and try again to
 compile with gcc 2.7.  Also, do this:

No LD_* environment variables.

 
 ld --verbose | more
 

% ld --verbose
GNU ld version 2.9.1 (with BFD 2.9.1)
  Supported emulations:
   elf_i386
   i386linux
using internal linker script:
==
OUTPUT_FORMAT(elf32-i386, elf32-i386,
  elf32-i386)
OUTPUT_ARCH(i386)
ENTRY(_start)
SEARCH_DIR(/lib); SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib); SEARCH_DIR(/usr/local/lib); SEARCH_DIR(/
usr/i486-linux/lib);

Hmmm.  I don't even have a /usr/i486-linux/lib directory!!
/usr/local/lib doesn't have anything concerning libc in it.

% cat /usr/lib/libc.so
/* GNU ld script
   Use the shared library, but some functions are only in
   the static library, so try that secondarily.  */
GROUP ( /lib/libc.so.6 /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a )
 
 *blink* I thought that was only in development libc.  What do you get
 if you execute /lib/libc.so.6 as a program?
 

% /lib/libc.so.6
GNU C Library production release version 2.0.7, by Roland McGrath et al.
Compiled by GNU CC version 2.7.2.3.
Copyright (C) 1992, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Compiled on a Linux 2.0.32 system on 1998/04/15.
Available extensions:
GNU libio by Per Bothner
BIND-4.9.6-T1A
UFC-crypt, patchlevel 1e by Michael Glad
linuxthreads-0.6 by Xavier Leroy
Report bugs using the `glibcbug' script to [EMAIL PROTECTED].


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Re: gcc can't compile, egcc can!??

1998-06-14 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Sun, 14 Jun 1998 11:39:30 -0500 (CDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 14 Jun, Zack Weinberg wrote:
 
 It looks to me as if the gcc drivers aren't doing anything wrong.  But
 this is a big fat clue:
 
ld: warning: libm.so.6, needed by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so, may conflict with l
ib
m.so.5
ld: warning: libc.so.6, needed by /lib/libm.so.6, may conflict with libc.so.
5
 
 The linker called by gcc/g++ 2.7 is attempting to link your program
 with the crt1.o from libc6 but the dynamic library from libc5.  That
 implies you have strange environment variable settings or mangled
 linker config files.  egcc has a wrapper for ld which is smart enough
 to straighten this out.
 

% cat /etc/ld.so.conf

ld.so.conf is unrelated.

% ld --verbose
GNU ld version 2.9.1 (with BFD 2.9.1)
  Supported emulations:
   elf_i386
   i386linux
using internal linker script:
==
OUTPUT_FORMAT(elf32-i386, elf32-i386,
  elf32-i386)
OUTPUT_ARCH(i386)
ENTRY(_start)
SEARCH_DIR(/lib); SEARCH_DIR(/usr/lib); SEARCH_DIR(/usr/local/lib); SEARCH_DIR
(/
usr/i486-linux/lib);

Hmmm.  I don't even have a /usr/i486-linux/lib directory!!

It's a hook for if you want to do cross compilation.  Don't worry
about it.

I bet you have spurious library symlinks in /lib or /usr/lib.  For a
normal library, like libm, the only files that should exist are

/usr/lib/libm.so - /usr/lib/libm.so.6
/usr/lib/libm.so.6 - /usr/lib/libm-2.0.7.so
/usr/lib/libm-2.0.7.so
/usr/lib/libm.a

The C library is a little weird, because the real thing lives in /lib
and libc.so is a file.  That should be set up like this:

/usr/lib/libc.so
/lib/libc.so.6 - /lib/libc-2.0.7.so
/lib/libc-2.0.7.so
/usr/lib/libc.a 

Alongside this will be the files for libc5, which will be like this:

/lib/libc.so.5 - /usr/lib/libc.so.5.4.44
/usr/lib/libm.so.5 - /usr/lib/libm.so.5.4.44
/usr/lib/libc.so.5.4.44
/usr/lib/libm.so.5.4.44
/usr/lib/libc5-compat/libc.so - /lib/libc.so.5
/usr/lib/libc5-compat/libm.so - /usr/lib/libm.so.5
/usr/lib/libc5-compat/libc.a
/usr/lib/libc5-compat/libm.a

(The shared libraries -- libc.so.5.4.44 -- may also be in
libc5-compat; I don't have a debian 2.0 system here to check on.)

The key thing here is that the libfoo.so links need to point to the
libc6 libraries.  Check that there is no /lib/libc.so link.  In fact,
there should probably be no xyz.so files in /lib at all, except
/lib/ld.so.  (xyz-2.0.7.so files are ok.)  Check that /usr/lib/libm.so
points at /usr/lib/libm.so.6.

% /lib/libc.so.6
GNU C Library production release version 2.0.7, by Roland McGrath et al.
Compiled by GNU CC version 2.7.2.3.

Hmf, I guess Uli backported that to the 2.0 release.  Your
/usr/lib/libc.so is fine then.

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Re: swaping - raid

1998-06-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On 14 Jun 1998, Deniz Dogan wrote:

: Hi,
: 
: To use kernel`s raid0 support for swap partitions, I added
: these two lines to /etc/fstab
: 
: /dev/hdc2 noneswapsw  0   0
: /dev/hda1 noneswapsw  0   0
: 
: But boot messages says these partitions have different priorities
: (-1 and -2).
: 
: Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

Yes.  Using RAID0 on swap partitions is more or less a waste of time,
since the kernel supports round robin swapping.  You need to add a
pri=number to the options field in /etc/fstab.

On one of my systems the swap partitions are described thusly:
/dev/sdb7   noneswapsw,pri=1
/dev/sda7   noneswapsw,pri=1

As long as the priorities are the same, round robin swapping will occur.
User assigned priorities have a non-negative value, according to `man
2 swapon'.  It looks like the priority field is a signed integer, so you
have over 32000 values to play with for user assigned swap areas :)

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Re: Linux install problem

1998-06-14 Thread dg
On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Shanta McBain wrote:

 I have a HD 350 meg Caviar 2340. I cannot change the partitions. Fdisk
 says that there are two partition The dos primary and a extended
 secondary. It reports that there are logical partitions on the
 secondary. Cant delete the secondary partition as the logical partitions
 exist. likely the linux primary and swap. It will not delete them as
 delete partitions dose not see the partitions.
 Is there a linux tool that will fix the problem?

I think you should try cfdisk first. It's far easier to use, and it displays
you the logical partitions within your extended.

Another way is to download a low level formatter like DiskManager or
EzDrive. As stated by the ATA specification, a hd has to do such a low level
format without any problems.

Bye
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Re: swaping - raid

1998-06-14 Thread Deniz Dogan
Hi,

 Nathan == Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[...]

Nathan Yes.  Using RAID0 on swap partitions is more or less a
Nathan waste of time, since the kernel supports round robin
Nathan swapping.  You need to add a pri=number to the options
Nathan field in /etc/fstab.

[...]

Thanks for your answer. And one more question: What is the difference
between round-robin swaping and raid (raid0)?

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Re: swaping - raid

1998-06-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On 14 Jun 1998, Deniz Dogan wrote:

: Hi,
: 
:  Nathan == Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: 
: [...]
: 
: Nathan Yes.  Using RAID0 on swap partitions is more or less a
: Nathan waste of time, since the kernel supports round robin
: Nathan swapping.  You need to add a pri=number to the options
: Nathan field in /etc/fstab.
: 
: [...]
: 
: Thanks for your answer. And one more question: What is the difference
: between round-robin swaping and raid (raid0)?

According to the documentation, there really is no difference.  Memory
will be swapped to the partitions equally (if I understand it
correctly).  The documentation is a bit sparse :)  I also recall reading
some software RAID docs that said the kernel round robin method was just
as efficient as RAID0 on swap, but that you need kernel 1.3.16 or better
for that.

This is all off the top of my head, so I could be mistaken.

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perl broken install (bo)

1998-06-14 Thread Marco Frattola
Hi all,
installing bo on a rex machine left me with this problem: perl won't install,
saying that subprocess post install script returned error 123 or something
like this. What's error 123 and how can I fix it? without perl, other packages
are left uninstallable.

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Re: apt weirdness

1998-06-14 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Fri, 12 Jun 1998 17:56:04 EDT, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am doing 'apt-get update' and it dies saying:
  
  Get ftp://ftp.debian.org frozen/contrib Packages   
  31% [Packages 2920/21.4k 13%]Uncaught exception from user code: 

   Timeout at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 334
  Carp::croak('Timeout') called at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 1060
  Net::FTP::I::read('Net::FTP::I=GLOB(0x8365cb0)', 'M-M-m^JL^[M-V ^_;
  M-pN
  kM-%M-/JUM-]6M-H?M-^TM-YM-^Q1M-DM-{mM-q^HM-\[EMAIL PROTECTED]@lM-A
  M-1^
  Zd^M1M-mM-)7M-iVM-^E?^M_MM-^OZg...', 1024) called at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.
  pm l
  ine 334
  Net::FTP::get('Net::FTP=GLOB(0x830d498)', '/debian/dists/frozen/cont
  rib/
  binary-i386/Packages.gz', 'ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_frozen_contrib_binary
  -i38
  6_Packages') called at /usr/lib/apt/methods/ftp line 476
  main::handle_requests('Configuration', 'HASH(0x81c50d4)') called at 
  /usr
  /lib/apt/methods/ftp line 545
  main::main('ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/frozen/contrib/binary-
  i386
  /Pac...', 'ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_frozen_contrib_binary-i386_Packages',
   'ft
  p://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/Packag...', 'ftp.deb
  ian.
  org_debian_dists_frozen_main_binary-i386_Packages', 'ftp://ftp.debian.org/de
  bian
  /dists/frozen/non-free/binary-i386/Pa...', 'ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_froz
  en_n
  on-free_binary-i386_Packages') called at /usr/lib/apt/methods/ftp line 549
  Fetched 29.0k in 2m55s (165b/s)
  ERROR ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/frozen/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.
  gz
Bad return code from subprocess
  
  My apt is version .16, Any ideas anyone? 


Just got the same thing while updating.  It looks like the ftp session timed 
out, but I don't think it should complain this loud about it ;-).  Hence, I am 
cc'ing this to apt developers.

 
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Re: gcc can't compile, egcc can!??

1998-06-14 Thread servis

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!  SEE BELOW!!!

On 14 Jun, Zack Weinberg wrote:
 
 /usr/lib/libm.so - /usr/lib/libm.so.6
 /usr/lib/libm.so.6 - /usr/lib/libm-2.0.7.so
 /usr/lib/libm-2.0.7.so
 /usr/lib/libm.a

/usr/lib/libm.so - /lib/libm.so.6
/lib/libm.so.6 - /lib/libm-2.0.7.so
/lib/libm-2.0.7.so
/usr/lib/libm.a


 
 The C library is a little weird, because the real thing lives in /lib
 and libc.so is a file.  That should be set up like this:
 
 /usr/lib/libc.so
 /lib/libc.so.6 - /lib/libc-2.0.7.so
 /lib/libc-2.0.7.so
 /usr/lib/libc.a 
 

/usr/lib/libc.so
/lib/libc.so.6 - /lib/libc-2.0.7.so
/lib/libc-2.0.7.so
/usr/lib/libc.a

 Alongside this will be the files for libc5, which will be like this:
 
 /lib/libc.so.5 - /usr/lib/libc.so.5.4.44
 /usr/lib/libm.so.5 - /usr/lib/libm.so.5.4.44
 /usr/lib/libc.so.5.4.44
 /usr/lib/libm.so.5.4.44
 /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libc.so - /lib/libc.so.5
 /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libm.so - /usr/lib/libm.so.5
 /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libc.a
 /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libm.a
 

/lib/libc.so - /lib/libc.so.5
^^^
MAY-DAY! MAY-DAY!!!

/lib/libc.so.5 - /lib/libc.so.5.4.36
/lib/libc.so.5.4.36
/lib/libm.so - /lib/libm.so.5
/lib/libm.so.5 - /lib/libm.so.5.0.9
/lib/libm.so.5.0.9


I have now removed /lib/libc.so link and 'gcc -o hello hello.c'
worked

Other compiles were still complaining about 

ld: warning: libc.so.5, needed by /lib/libncurses.so, may conflict with 
libc.so.6

I looked at /lib/libncurses.so links:

/lib/libncurses.so - /lib/libncurses.so.3
/lib/libncurses.so.3.0
/lib/libncurses.so.3.4

I removed /lib/libncurses.so and /lib/libncurses.so.3 and all seems to
be well now. 

 
 The key thing here is that the libfoo.so links need to point to the
 libc6 libraries.  Check that there is no /lib/libc.so link.  In fact,
 there should probably be no xyz.so files in /lib at all, except
 /lib/ld.so.  (xyz-2.0.7.so files are ok.)  Check that /usr/lib/libm.so
 points at /usr/lib/libm.so.6.

I have:

/lib/libm.so - /lib/libm.so.5 *** Is this trouble?
/lib/libreadline.so - /lib/libreadline.so.2
/lib/librl.so - /lib/librl.so.2

With this all fixed I just did a kernel compile and it went without a
hitch.(I did not change the /lib/libm.so link above).

This all started when I upgraded from bo to hamm.
Something must not have cleaned up its links when being upgraded.

This machine has been upgraded in place since Debian 0.93 days but
this is the first problem I have had like this.


THANKS!!!

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XFree86 problems

1998-06-14 Thread Matt Kopishke
I have been having problems with X, the last time I installed Linux, I 
installed the XFree86 packages that as far as I can see are required to 
run X (the Standard Fonts, FVWM, the svga server, and what ever eles 
dselect told me I needed), but after runinng XFree86Config, when it goes 
to graphic mode, my screen goes crazy, it has many moving, blue lines, 
and it even messes up the other terminals.  Should I fire up dselect and 
try to get a new (if ther is one) copy of XFree86, and if so what should 
I get?  Or use what I have and find out it was some stupid little thing I 
for got/did not see?

HW:
Oak Tech SVGA card
AST SVGA monitor

SW
Debian 1.3.1


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libBrokenLocale - what is it?

1998-06-14 Thread Adrian Monk
On Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:11:40 -0500, Ed Cogburn wrote:

(snip)
The install of the Slackware package has overwritten the file permissions of
apparently several files and directories. 

and Steve Lamb wrote:

 Stupid question, is your passwd file there?  That is about the only time
 I ever see numbers in ls is when the passwd file is fuqed.

Thanks to you both for the helpful suggestions (yes my password file
is still there and not - as far as I can tell - fuqued, and yes,
Slackware had altered the directory permissions on /etc and /var).
However:

In my /lib directory I have:

libBrokenLocale.so.1 - libBrokenLocale-2.0.6

2776 libBrokenLocale-2.0.6.so

I have tried re-installing libdb2.3.16.deb and doing ldconfig, without
result, and am unsure how to repair the above error - presumably a
linking error. I also  ried renaming the above files and then
re-installing libdb2, but dpkg then complains that it cannot find
libBrokenLocale, which the fuquer apparently needs.

Any suggestions? Many thanks IA.

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Home Network TCP/IP with PPP ?

1998-06-14 Thread Cormac McGuinness
Hi,

Can anyone give me a concise description of how to set up a home-network
of a linux machine (with modem) and Windows 95 machine, so that the
Windows 95 machine can access the internet through the PPP connection
of the linux machine (start it and stop it if necessary).

I have the two machines networked and have assigned 192.168.2.1 for
the linux machine and 192.268.2.2 for the windows machine...
beyond this I am a little at sea as to what to do  ?
Can someone help me ? or point me to what document I should be
reading

Previous to purchasing 2nd computer and network cards i had ppp
setup on the linux machine with a minimal amount of configuration

Thanks in advance
a debian user
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Re: gcc can't compile, egcc can!??

1998-06-14 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Sun, 14 Jun 1998 16:46:45 -0500 (CDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

/lib/libc.so - /lib/libc.so.5
^^^
MAY-DAY! MAY-DAY!!!

/lib/libc.so.5 - /lib/libc.so.5.4.36
/lib/libc.so.5.4.36
/lib/libm.so - /lib/libm.so.5
/lib/libm.so.5 - /lib/libm.so.5.0.9
/lib/libm.so.5.0.9


I have now removed /lib/libc.so link and 'gcc -o hello hello.c'
worked

Other compiles were still complaining about 

ld: warning: libc.so.5, needed by /lib/libncurses.so, may conflict with libc.s
o.6

I looked at /lib/libncurses.so links:

/lib/libncurses.so - /lib/libncurses.so.3
/lib/libncurses.so.3.0
/lib/libncurses.so.3.4

I removed /lib/libncurses.so and /lib/libncurses.so.3 and all seems to
be well now. 

You probably want to remove _all_ /lib/lib*.so links.  You definitely
want to remove the ones that point to libraries compiled with libc5.
ldd will tell you which those are:

$ ldd /lib/libm.so.5
libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5

General principle: you can not mix libc5 and libc6 code.  That goes
for libraries as well -- any nontrivial shared library (such as
libncurses) will use C library functions.

 The key thing here is that the libfoo.so links need to point to the
 libc6 libraries.  Check that there is no /lib/libc.so link.  In fact,
 there should probably be no xyz.so files in /lib at all, except
 /lib/ld.so.  (xyz-2.0.7.so files are ok.)  Check that /usr/lib/libm.so
 points at /usr/lib/libm.so.6.

I have:

/lib/libm.so - /lib/libm.so.5 *** Is this trouble?

Yes it is.  Programs that use libm will get the same sort of conflict.

/lib/libreadline.so - /lib/libreadline.so.2
/lib/librl.so - /lib/librl.so.2

These are also trouble; they're the libc5 versions of libreadline and
librl.  Delete the links.

With this all fixed I just did a kernel compile and it went without a
hitch.(I did not change the /lib/libm.so link above).

This all started when I upgraded from bo to hamm.
Something must not have cleaned up its links when being upgraded.

This machine has been upgraded in place since Debian 0.93 days but
this is the first problem I have had like this.

What seems to have happened is that the hamm libraries put the .so
links into /usr/lib, but the libraries from some pre-FSSTND debian put
them in /lib.  ld searches /lib before /usr/lib, so it uses the libc5
libraries.

bo puts .so links in /usr/lib, so it was earlier than that.  You
never noticed before because you never had a C library major version
change.  (And hopefully it'll never happen again :)

One thing that bothers me is that your kernel compile was affected.
The kernel shouldn't use anything from libc.  If the kernel boots it's
fine, but there might be something strange going on there.

Also I wonder what libm is doing in /lib.  That's probably legitimate,
but I'd think nothing needs it before /usr is mounted.

zw


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Re: apt weirdness

1998-06-14 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Igor Grobman wrote:

Timeout at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 334
   Carp::croak('Timeout') called at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 
 1060

I'm sure Manoj can say more, but it sounds to me like this is a perl
FTP library glitch - doesn't handle timeouts well.

Jason


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GECM.COM: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed

1998-06-14 Thread Paul Miller

Either debian.org or someone on this list has or relays to a system called
'gecm.com'.  I've been receiving lots of messages saying that a delivery
has failed, which is not true. 

These messages are usually over a day later than when I sent them, have
been successfully received by the destination, and sometimes they've even
replied!

.. so if this is your server, please fix it! 

-Paul



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Re: Home Network TCP/IP with PPP ?

1998-06-14 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Cormac McGuinness wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Can anyone give me a concise description of how to set up a home-network
 of a linux machine (with modem) and Windows 95 machine, so that the
 Windows 95 machine can access the internet through the PPP connection
 of the linux machine (start it and stop it if necessary).
 
 I have the two machines networked and have assigned 192.168.2.1 for
 the linux machine and 192.268.2.2 for the windows machine...
^^^
Did you mean 192.168.2.2?

 beyond this I am a little at sea as to what to do  ?
 Can someone help me ? or point me to what document I should be
 reading
 

I have basically the same thing (plus an additional Linux box).  Since you 
are using 192.168.2.x addresses, you will want to recompile your kernel
with IP-masquerading so the Win95 box can access the internet.

On the Windows 95 box, under Control Panel, Networks, enable Client for
Microsoft Networks and TCP/IP protocol.

Since you already have the two machines networked, I won't describe that. 
On the Win95 box, set the gateway address to 192.168.2.1.

You may also want to install the Debian diald package, so when the Windows
95 computer tries to access the internet, the Linux computer will
automatically dial up the connection.

You will find much of the information you need in the IP-Masquerade
mini-HOWTO and the NET-3-HOWTO (both in the doc-linux-text package). 

Bob


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