Re: LILO y la int 13 extendida.
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 06:17:31PM +0200, budgy wrote: Saludos, esta es otra pregunta sobre LILO y los discos duros, windows9x usa la Int 13 extendida, la cual no tiene problemas con mas de 1024 cilindros (en BIOS modernas), Linux no usa la BIOS, así que no hay problema alguno, pero LILO si usa la BIOS con la Int 13 de toda la vida, así que tiene que estar colocado por debajo del cilindro 1024, mi pregunta es, ¿usará LILO algún dia la Int13 extendida y nos olvidaremos por completo del tema del cilindro 1024?, LILO tiene que bailar al son de la BIOS. Fíjate que el código que mete LILO al principio del disco o partción es mínimo (512 bytes), y en ése espacio tiene que apañárselas para acceder al kernel que se haya grabado en el disco. Implementar algo parecido a la int13 extendida que usa Windows tiene que ocupar mucho más de esos 512 bytes, ¿no te parece? ¿no es posible usarla?, Si la arquitectura de LILO cambiara para usar 1 megabyte - al estilo del Boot Manager del OS/2 - en vez de esos 512 bytes, no creo que hubiera ningún problema para arreglarlo. ¿estoy equivocado en algo?. En resumen, tal como está diseñado LILO, sólo puede acceder a los discos a través de la BIOS; las limitaciones de la BIOS condicionan pues a LILO. Salu2, Netman. Gracias de antemano por vuestra ayuda. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Tal vez no estemos aquí para alabar a dios, sino para crearlo A. C. Clarke Powered by Debian/GNU Linux 2.2 - Kernel 2.2.10 pgp18BfPTnnVH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: INCREIBLE PERO CIERTO!!
Manuel Trujillo escribió: Pues según me han dicho en la propia editorial, saldrá a finales de ésta semana o, más probablemente, durante la semana que viene. Si estáis hablando de Linux Journal yo ya la he comprado. No puedo valorar el contenido porque no he podido más que hojearla, pero parece una traducción íntegra de la edidición americana. Con las ventajas/inconvenientes que ello implica. El aspecto gráfico es penoso. El papel parece papel higiénico (no sé si habréis apreciado que Linux Actual tb ha adoptado este papel feo en un (parece) desesperado intento de abaratar gastos), y comparada con la revista americana es muy cutre. Ésa es la palabra. (Y perdón por la dureza de la crítica). --- Una vez me obligué a tragar sin pensar si mi alma se iba a olvidar -Sôber- Barbwired (The TranslatriX) - Filología Inglesa - U. Complutense de Madrid Proudly using Debian GNU/Linux (2.3.6) - PGP ID-0x03C87C81 Web personal (aenima y linux): http://www.bigfoot.com/~barbwired/
Re: Manual de Instalação em Portugues - Andamento
Em Sat, 03 Jul 1999 21:55:44 -0300 Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira escreveu: O manual de instalação da Debian (pelo menos os arquivos básicos) já estão prontos e convertidos para SGML... Seria bom voce passar algumas dicas para a lista sobre SGML e como documentar a Debian... Ola Paulo e todos das lista, Achei importante sua sugestão por isso estou trazendo a lista. Estou pensando sim em fazer um guia explicando o funcionamento do DTD debiandoc (e dos principios da linguagem SGML) para todos conhecerem as vantagens e funcionalidades deste DTD. Não existe nenhuma documentação do DebianDoc em Português, pelo que conheço. Sinceramente não gostava do DebianDoc eu utilizava muito o linuxdoc, mas após a conversão do manual de instalação da Debian observei que existem muitas características que ajudam no desenvolvimento do documento que não existem em outros DTD's. Sobre a documentação da Debian, não é obrigatório utilizar o DebianDoc para escrever a documentação isolada (ou traduzir um documento). Gostei de sua sugestão sim, após adicionar o suporte do idioma português ao DebianDoc, vou começar a escrever este guia sobre o DebianDoc (e se possível colocar em sua página para melhor acesso a todos). Isto vai ajudar ao pessoal da lista documentar os projetos e conhecer este maravilhoso formato de DTD. No site da Conectiva tem um documento escrito por Jorge Godoy que explicar as características básicas da linguagem SGML (usando o linuxdoc) é um bom ponto de partida para os usuários que já querem escrever documentos usando SGML. O endereço é: http://lie-br.conectiva.com.br/godoy/artigos/guia_rapido_para_sgml.html --- gleydson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] MailBR - O e-mail do Brasil -- http://www.mailbr.com.br Faça já o seu. É gratuito!!!
Re: [SuSE Linux] What DO you lose with Linux ???
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 11:43:27PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote: Sorry, but OE doesn't deserve to be called a email client. You can't quote quoted-printable encoded mails, you are placed on top on a reply (thous encouraging the newbie to answer above the text and leave a full quote below), the signature is placed above the quoted text, you Placing the cursor at the top of the message is the right thing to do - you're only going to have to go back up deleting text otherwise. There is the potential to do the wrong thing even when the cursor is placed at the end of the text and simply write a reply, not deleting anything. Neither is very good. I have yet to see a program on any operating system that comes close to the power of gnus. Which also starts you off at the top. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpNKScoFoLMk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: access ext2 partition from win9x
On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 01:27:08AM +0700, Thanate Dhirasakdanon wrote: Hi, I'd like to know whether there is a program to allow me to access (mount) ext2 partition under win9x. Please tell me if you know it. Thanks, Thanate There is a program called explore2fs that allows you to browse around any ext2 filesystem on your harddrive in a Windows Explorer like fashion. It even has write support. You can get it here: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ Works fine on both Windows 9x and NT Dan -- Dan Everton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Have you tried thinking like a shower? www.psynet.net/fada | KBHR's Chris in the Morning
Re: port redirection
On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 03:24:50PM -0400, Jonathan Lupa wrote: On Thursday, July 01, 1999 10:37 AM, Dan Everton [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote: There is a patch available. You can find it here http://www.ox.compsoc.org.uk/~steve/portforwarding.html I think it's packaged somewhere in the Debian distribution... *checks package listing* yes it is. You can find it here: http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/net/ipportfw.html Wow. This opened some doors for me! But now, I get to flood with newbie questions. =) First of all, I have a 486-33dx4 acting as my masq-firewall. Its at Kernel 2.0.36, has a ppp0 properly set up and masquerades to a small network of 192.168.2.* addressed computers. The firewall rules are below. ipfwadm -F -p deny ipfwadm -F -a m -S192.168.2.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 ipfwadm -I -p accept # the following line blocks incoming telnets since I use ssh to connect ipfwadm -I -a r -DXXX.XXX.XXX.XXX/32 23 # address removed to protect the ignorant (me). I compiled in port forwarding support and added the following lines to my setup which allowed quicktime streaming to work for my Wife's machine: ipportfw -A -tXXX.XXX.XXX.XXX/554 -R 192.168.2.2/554 # and a WHOLE BUNCH of udp routing lines. Now, what I want to do, but haven't been able to get working is a forwarding scheme for CVS. I want to have my gateway XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX box redirect its port 6060 to my workstations (192.168.2.1) cvspserver port (2401). To this affect I entered the following lines: ipportfw -A -tXXX.XXX.XXX.XXX/6060 -R 192.168.2.3/2401 ipportfw -A -uXXX.XXX.XXX.XXX/6060 -R 192.168.2.3/2401 Before I was doing portforwarding on 6060 when I telnet to that port on my box I get the message telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused. AFTER I add port forwarding on 6060 I get telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out. The transactions are starting, they just aren't finishing. My pet theory is that this port forwarding thing isn't dealing with masquerading of the returned packets, but like I said, I'm pretty clueless with this. Any help appreciated! Jonathan Lupa ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Near as I can tell, that should work. I've only used the port forwarding patches in a very limited fashion, but similar lines have worked for all services I've tried. One thing I can think of is (and this is based on a very hazy grasp of what ipmasq and ipportfw are actually doing) is that that the cvspserver is trying to create another connection channel back to the originating server and that isn't working for some reason. Anybody know if cvspserver does that (like the control and data ports in ftp)? Another possibility is that ipportfw doesn't like rewriting ports (although I'm almost certain that does work). Have you tried just passing port 2401 one along as opposed to rewriting 6060 down to 2401? Wish I could help you better. Dan -- Dan Everton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Have you tried thinking like a shower? www.psynet.net/fada | KBHR's Chris in the Morning
Re: [SuSE Linux] What DO you lose with Linux ???
Mark == Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have yet to see a program on any operating system that comes close to the power of gnus. Mark Which also starts you off at the top. Not if you don't want this. It is a changeable, as everything else. The problem is not the cursor at the top (I like to go down and replay to sentences and delete unneded parts and proceed), but that OE also places the signature at the top, which makes the beginner believe he should place his answer between the top and the signature followed by the original mail. Ciao, Martin
samba printing..oops
Hi all, I have a question. I'm trying to set up some linux folks at work (we are in the minority) with the ability to print graphics (i'm not sure why, but the orders came from above...) I'm printing to an NT served hp laserjet 4. does pcl and all that. i'v got magicfilter, but it's not configured properly. some one told me that I need to check out samba printing docs, but i can't find the proper docs. anyone have any suggestions? I'm all ears. I can include my printcap if that's of any use to anyone, but i'm not sure why it would be. thanks. -peter
Re: Brave New Perl
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Christian Dysthe wrote: I tried to do a dselect update on my potato box today. New Perl debs caused a lot of trouble. Yeah, the dependancies aren't all worked out yet... That's why potato is called 'unstable'. After dselect saw the new Perl's it wanted to remove A LOT of (important) packages so I had to say no to the upgrade. Then I tried to freeze the Perl upgrade to be able to do the other avaialble upgrades, but no go. whatever I do dselect wants to do major changes to my system. Some Perl packages described as fake confuse me, and I have given up using dselect at all right now since whatever I try to do means all these packages will be removed and I am not able to freeze the old Perl with ='s in a way that leaves my installation intact. What you have to do is look at the dependancies and find out which package wants Perl 5.005. Then, put that package on hold until things become sane again ;) The best way to do this is to push 'R' right away on the conflict screen to restore the old status, then go down to the perl-5.005 line and look for the line foo depends on perl-5.005. Put package foo on hold (you may have to do this two or three times, if there's more that one package that needs 5.005 *sigh*) At the moment, i have 4 on hold: libgtk-perl, perl-tk, perlmagick, and pdl. There may be others that i don't have installed. Should I wait until other packages catch up with the new Perl installation? Good idea, some of the ones that would be removed are rather useful... If I have a lot of packages marked for removal right now. I guess I will have to go through it all and mark them installed again also? If you go to the line --- Up to date installed packages --- and tell dselect to install that, it will mark all of them at once, so you don't have to go through manually and do it.
gnome session-panel X problems
I installed gnome and e. The session panel doesn't seem to load up. All i can do is right click and middle click. Also, another problem i'm having with X: When I Log out, the window manager closes, (the borders and such disapear) but the system doesn't return to gdm. It sits in X till i press ctrl-alt-bkspc. Anyone know why this might be? I can't figure it out. I'm running the latest potato. Brendon
Re: [SuSE Linux] What DO you lose with Linux ???
On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 12:25:54AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 11:43:27PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote: Sorry, but OE doesn't deserve to be called a email client. You can't quote quoted-printable encoded mails, you are placed on top on a reply (thous encouraging the newbie to answer above the text and leave a full quote below), the signature is placed above the quoted text, you Placing the cursor at the top of the message is the right thing to do - you're only going to have to go back up deleting text otherwise. Yes, but OE inserts a blank line at the top of the message, and places only `-- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --' as the quote line. Then, to compound things further, it puts your signature *above* the quoted message. Theee is the potential to do the wrong thing even when the cursor is placed at the end of the text and simply write a reply, not deleting anything. Neither is very good. At least the reply would be in the correct place. Anyway, where the editor's cursor is initially placed is indeed irrelevant - if the user has too little Clue to correctly compose and format an email or news message, they are unlikely to be able to communicate anything useful. I have yet to see a program on any operating system that comes close to the power of gnus. Which also starts you off at the top. I wouldn't know, I'm perfectly happy with mutt and vim (which also starts off at the top). -- alisdair mcdiarmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [your home may be at risk if you do not keep up repayments on your loan. any and all advice given is strictly confidential]
Re: [SuSE Linux] What DO you lose with Linux ???
On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 02:35:54AM +0100, Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 12:25:54AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 11:43:27PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote: Sorry, but OE doesn't deserve to be called a email client. You Placing the cursor at the top of the message is the right thing to do - you're only going to have to go back up deleting text otherwise. Yes, but OE inserts a blank line at the top of the message, and places only `-- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --' as the quote line. Then, to compound things further, it puts your signature *above* the quoted message. Oh, indeed - the signature placement is just plain wrong, and the quote line is bad too (although not insurmontable, and more informative than some). It just seems silly to pull it up for faults that don't exist (and this cursor placment seems to be the favourite) when there are so many real ones to complain about. Which also starts you off at the top. I wouldn't know, I'm perfectly happy with mutt and vim (which also starts off at the top). How can you live without the wellspring of informed and reasoned discussion that is Usenet?! -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpVIakWeJuFW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Networking help
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 04:52:14PM -0500, Robert Rati wrote On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, John Pearson wrote: [snip] Your NIC driver is sending stuff to your NIC and expects to receive an interrupt down the track (probably to say that it has finished), but the interrupt never arrives. In approximately descending order of plausability, you either: - Have configured the NIC driver to use the wrong IRQ; or - Have a broken NIC; or - Have configured the NIC driver to use the wrong I/O address; or - Are using the wrong module for your NIC. If it's a PCI card, then settings probably *aren't* the problem. I know the nic works because I can still use it in winblows. The card is detected when I give it an irq, or atleast it is said to be detected correctly. The werid thing is, it stopped being detected when I just gave it the io port. It used to just need the io port, and it would find the irq itself and work just fine. Now I have to give it the irq also, and it says it finds it but it doesn't work. My nic is an ISA Linksys and I just use the ne drive for it. I've had it working before and it still works in winblows, so I don't think it's the settings or the card. It's got an EEPROM on it, and the eeprom is set to use IRQ 10 and io 0x240. A quick look at the kernel source shows some LinkSys cards use the Tulip driver (likely not yours, as I thought these were all PCI cards) and some use the Lance driver; have you tried using the Lance driver? Also, is it a combo card (twisted pair/coax)? If it is you may need to set the media type using the (with any luck) supplied utility rather than trusting in the media autodetection logic. John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything. - Bill Gates in Denmark
Re: [SuSE Linux] What DO you lose with Linux ???
On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 02:49:57AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: Oh, indeed - the signature placement is just plain wrong, I'm pretty sure it encourages no .sig delimiters too - you have to insert your own, and even then it strips the trailing space. and the quote line is bad too (although not insurmontable, and more informative than some). *boggle* It just seems silly to pull it up for faults that don't exist (and this cursor placment seems to be the favourite) when there are so many real ones to complain about. The only problem I had with OU4 was instability. OU5 was still more unstable, and forced me to work out how to configure exim, mutt and vim (for which I'm grateful :-). Which also starts you off at the top. I wouldn't know, I'm perfectly happy with mutt and vim (which also starts off at the top). How can you live without the wellspring of informed and reasoned discussion that is Usenet?! I sort of gave up Usenet when I got a Real Life. Sad, but I've just not got any time to read flame wars on comp.sys.acorn.* anymore. I do have slrn installed and ready just in case my girlfriend dumps me, though ;-) -- alisdair mcdiarmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [your home may be at risk if you do not keep up repayments on your loan. any and all advice given is strictly confidential]
Re: Brave New Perl
You need to put liblocal-gettext-perl on hold. Bob On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 08:03:35PM -0500, Brad wrote: On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Christian Dysthe wrote: I tried to do a dselect update on my potato box today. New Perl debs caused a lot of trouble. Yeah, the dependancies aren't all worked out yet... That's why potato is called 'unstable'. After dselect saw the new Perl's it wanted to remove A LOT of (important) packages so I had to say no to the upgrade. Then I tried to freeze the Perl upgrade to be able to do the other avaialble upgrades, but no go. whatever I do dselect wants to do major changes to my system. Some Perl packages described as fake confuse me, and I have given up using dselect at all right now since whatever I try to do means all these packages will be removed and I am not able to freeze the old Perl with ='s in a way that leaves my installation intact. What you have to do is look at the dependancies and find out which package wants Perl 5.005. Then, put that package on hold until things become sane again ;) The best way to do this is to push 'R' right away on the conflict screen to restore the old status, then go down to the perl-5.005 line and look for the line foo depends on perl-5.005. Put package foo on hold (you may have to do this two or three times, if there's more that one package that needs 5.005 *sigh*) At the moment, i have 4 on hold: libgtk-perl, perl-tk, perlmagick, and pdl. There may be others that i don't have installed. Should I wait until other packages catch up with the new Perl installation? Good idea, some of the ones that would be removed are rather useful... If I have a lot of packages marked for removal right now. I guess I will have to go through it all and mark them installed again also? If you go to the line --- Up to date installed packages --- and tell dselect to install that, it will mark all of them at once, so you don't have to go through manually and do it. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
mod_perl debianized?
Hi folks! I'm hoping mod_perl for apache is somewhere debianized. I really would rather not mess around with too much source code since I'm not a programmer. Anyone know where mod_perl would be? Thanks. -- _ NatePuri (natedawg) o m p a g e s . c o m Certified Law Student p e r c r v t i o f i McGeorge School of Law e d i c a e a n m n Sacramento, CA n i v e t r y m d [EMAIL PROTECTED] a a s e y s t u s [EMAIL PROTECTED] t s d o h n http://www.ompages.com e n i i e s t y
Re: mod_perl debianized?
On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Nate wrote: I'm hoping mod_perl for apache is somewhere debianized. I really would rather not mess around with too much source code since I'm not a programmer. Anyone know where mod_perl would be? Thanks. Try the libapache-mod-perl package. In the future, you can go to http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages and use the search engines there to try looking for what you want before you post here (it's usually faster ;)
Re: mod_perl debianized? (thanks)
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 09:41:19PM -0500, Brad wrote: On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Nate wrote: I'm hoping mod_perl for apache is somewhere debianized. I really would rather not mess around with too much source code since I'm not a programmer. Anyone know where mod_perl would be? Thanks. Try the libapache-mod-perl package. Hey thanks... yah In the future, you can go to http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages and use the search engines there to try looking for what you want before you post here (it's usually faster ;) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- _ NatePuri (natedawg) o m p a g e s . c o m Certified Law Student p e r c r v t i o f i McGeorge School of Law e d i c a e a n m n Sacramento, CA n i v e t r y m d [EMAIL PROTECTED] a a s e y s t u s [EMAIL PROTECTED] t s d o h n http://www.ompages.com e n i i e s t y
Re: xterm with utf-8
On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 05:57:10PM +0100, Stefan Baums wrote: From /usr/doc/xterm/changelog.Debian.gz: xfree86-1 (3.3.3.1-4) unstable; urgency=low * (#011): Debian-specific xterm patches - disable UTF-8 support, upstream author is still working on it How can I reenable the UTF-8 support? I got myself the sources, but do not know _where_ to disable the patch. I don't appear to have mentioned this in the changelogs (oops), but UTF-8 support was turned back on after a release or two (possibly 3.3.3.1-7). 3.3.3.1-10 is the current unstable version. -- G. Branden Robinson | Q: How does a Unix guru have sex? Debian GNU/Linux | A: unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck; [EMAIL PROTECTED] | more;yes;fsck;fsck;fsck;umount;sleep cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpogDPy9AQ5a.pgp Description: PGP signature
https connections?
Hi folks. I have installed apache-ssl. I still cannot get https connections. What do I have to do to get this going. Documentation? Thanks -- _ NatePuri (natedawg) o m p a g e s . c o m Certified Law Student p e r c r v t i o f i McGeorge School of Law e d i c a e a n m n Sacramento, CA n i v e t r y m d [EMAIL PROTECTED] a a s e y s t u s [EMAIL PROTECTED] t s d o h n http://www.ompages.com e n i i e s t y
Re: gnome session-panel X problems
In a message dated 7/3/99 8:02:36 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I installed gnome and e. The session panel doesn't seem to load up. All i can do is right click and middle click. What does your .xsession file say? You might not have panel listed as booting up. Also, another problem i'm having with X: When I Log out, the window manager closes, (the borders and such disapear) but the system doesn't return to gdm. It sits in X till i press ctrl-alt-bkspc. Anyone know why this might be? I can't figure it out. Why not just start an xterm and use the shutdown command? There's not really anything you can't do in X that you can in console. Hope this helps. Colin Winters
Re: port redirection
On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 09:49:53AM +1000, Dan Everton wrote: On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 03:24:50PM -0400, Jonathan Lupa wrote: [setup deleted] Now, what I want to do, but haven't been able to get working is a forwarding scheme for CVS. I want to have my gateway XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX box redirect its port 6060 to my workstations (192.168.2.1) cvspserver port (2401). To this affect I entered the following lines: ipportfw -A -tXXX.XXX.XXX.XXX/6060 -R 192.168.2.3/2401 ipportfw -A -uXXX.XXX.XXX.XXX/6060 -R 192.168.2.3/2401 Before I was doing portforwarding on 6060 when I telnet to that port on my box I get the message telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused. AFTER I add port forwarding on 6060 I get telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out. The transactions are starting, they just aren't finishing. My pet theory is that this port forwarding thing isn't dealing with masquerading of the returned packets, but like I said, I'm pretty clueless with this. One thing I can think of is (and this is based on a very hazy grasp of what ipmasq and ipportfw are actually doing) is that that the cvspserver is trying to create another connection channel back to the originating server and that isn't working for some reason. Anybody know if cvspserver does that (like the control and data ports in ftp)? One of the things that concerned me is that the pserver was trying to do some rsh authentification stuff, but I had expressly blocked those ports in my firewall. So, I threw open all of the gates, but I still hadd the problem. =( Another possibility is that ipportfw doesn't like rewriting ports (although I'm almost certain that does work). Have you tried just passing port 2401 one along as opposed to rewriting 6060 down to 2401? Yep, that was the second thing I tried. Keeping the firewall all the way open and just punching the port straight through. I got the same results as when I wasnt switching ports. Wish I could help you better. No problem. =) What I'm thinking of trying now is to configure the client that I care about (a win95 box at work) to use ssh to do the cvs work. Of course, that is going to requrire configuration of my closed source gui proprietary ssh implementation to work from the command line with the windows cvs client, so I'm not 100% on whether I'll be able to get that going. Ah well, I guess the original question still stands : Is it possible to punch cvs's pserver through a masqurading firewall using port forwarding. Thanks! Jonathan Lupa ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome session-panel X problems
Brendon Baumgartner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed gnome and e. The session panel doesn't seem to load up. All i can do is right click and middle click. I have the same problem. Whenever I try to start the gnome panel and/or gmc they fail with this error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.enlightenment/cached/pager/ panel ** WARNING **: Could not get name service! ** ERROR **: file goad.c: line 606 (real_goad_server_activate): assertion failed: (name_service != CORBA_OBJECT_NIL) aborting... Aborted If I issue the command a second time they start normal. This has the implications that I can't start either when I start X. If I 'exec gnome-session' in .xsession, I don't get the panel. If I specify to load the panel explicitely it just hangs for a moment and then it barfs out. I had this problem from the beginning,, with gnome 1.06 and yesterday I upgraded to 1.07 but it didn't solve it. Does anybody know what's wrong and how can I fix it ? TIA -- D.Damian
Networking Question
Hi everyone: I've got another question (or two). I've been trying to get networking setup and I seem to be on the right track. I have a book entitled The Linux Network and I've managed to get my two systems to ping each other. In fact, they're doing it right now. It's so cool to see those little lights on my hub blink! Anyway, I manually entered in a bunch of stuff with ifconfig and route on each computer, and now I guess I need to create some scripts to do it automagically (?) when I boot. The book refers to two files: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 and /etc/rc.d/rc.inet2. The book ships with Slackware, so I guess it's Slackware specific in this sense. Where do I write the necessary scripts to configure networking? Also, if I seem to be leaving anything out (as in, if by just getting my systems to ping each other, I might be off-track on getting this going) please let me know. I'm going to go grab a beer to celebrate... tia -- __ _ Mark Wagnon Debian GNU/ -o) / / (_)__ __ __ Chula Vista, CA /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ http://www.debian.org
RE: Networking Question
On 04-Jul-99 Mark Wagnon wrote: Hi everyone: I've got another question (or two). I've been trying to get networking setup and I seem to be on the right track. I have a book entitled The Linux Network and I've managed to get my two systems to ping each other. In fact, they're doing it right now. It's so cool to see those little lights on my hub blink! Anyway, I manually entered in a bunch of stuff with ifconfig and route on each computer, and now I guess I need to create some scripts to do it automagically (?) when I boot. The book refers to two files: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 and /etc/rc.d/rc.inet2. The book ships with Slackware, so I guess it's Slackware specific in this sense. Where do I write the necessary scripts to configure networking? Check out /etc/init.d/network -- Andrew
Re: gnome session-panel X problems
On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 12:35:52AM -0400, Didi Damian wrote: Whenever I try to start the gnome panel and/or gmc they fail with this error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.enlightenment/cached/pager/ panel ** WARNING **: Could not get name service! ** ERROR **: file goad.c: line 606 (real_goad_server_activate): assertion failed: (name_service != CORBA_OBJECT_NIL) aborting... Aborted Try starting gnome-name-service first, that will keep them happy. This is what I do when I'm not running my X session with gnome-session, and I want to start a Gnome app. Does anybody know what's wrong and how can I fix it ? What you might want to try is deleting or renaming the .gnome dir in your $HOME. I've found that the old configs can cause problems when you upgrade Gnome. The gnome-name-service *should* be started by gnome-session, so if you're running your X session using gnome-session then it's probably your old configs causing the problems... Otherwise you can always start gnome-name-service by hand when you need it. -- Matthew Gregan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome session-panel X problems
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 05:59:29PM -0700, Brendon Baumgartner wrote: I installed gnome and e. The session panel doesn't seem to load up. All i can do is right click and middle click. Also, another problem i'm having with X: When I Log out, the window manager closes, (the borders and such disapear) but the system doesn't return to gdm. It sits in X till i press ctrl-alt-bkspc. Anyone know why this might be? I can't figure it out. Firstly, are you starting Gnome with something like 'exec gnome-session' as the last thing in your .xsession (or .xinitrc if you're starting X by hand)? If so, then when you 'log out', Enlightenment is quitting, but not Gnome, so your X session is still alive (just without a window manager). This probably means that something is pretty wrong with Gnome, and it's not being told that E wants your X session to end (since gnome-session is in control, not E). If you have a .gnome directory in your home dir, remove or rename that and try again. It may be you have some stale configs messing things up. Otherwise, something is probably pretty wrong with your Gnome install... -- Matthew Gregan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
File Attributes in /var
Hi, After moving the /var directory to another partition using tar cfSp - * | ( cd /mnt tar xfSpv - ) I got problems because exim could not write to /var/spool/exim and /var/log/exim. How are the correct settings? I changed them to drwxrwx--- 5 root mail 1024 Jun 24 06:27 /var/spool/exim/ drwxrwx--- 2 root mail 1024 Jul 4 06:47 /var/log/exim/ What's wrong with the tar copy command? I never had any problem with it. Klaus
Re: What's the best way to organize small drives
David Forcey wrote: NEWBIE ALERT! I just installed slink on a 486-100 (Windows throwaway) with 3 salvaged drives (each 540 MB). I partitioned them as follows: hda1bootPrimary Linux ext2250.4MB hda2Primary Linux Swap63.99 MB hda3Primary Linux 201.8 MB hdb1Primary Linux ext2515.82 MB hdc1Primary Linux 515.82 MB __ Just my opinion but you could make this the arrangement hda1bootPrimary Linux ext2515.82 MB hdb1Primary Linux ext2451.12 MB hdb2Primary Linux Swap63.99 MB hdc1Primary Linux ext2515.82 MB There are several advantages to this; 1. the swap files will be available faster. 2. you can set up the system with hard links to /usr/local and /home and put all of those files and directories on /dev/hdb1 again this will speed up your system some and also allow you to completely rebuild or update the entire system as needed without messing with the files you use the most. you could put /usr/local on /dev/hdc1 and /home on /dev/hdb1 also by using hard links to them on /dev/hda1. -- John Foster AdVance-Computing Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
Re: Can't write to an nfs export
Mark Brown wrote: On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 08:40:52AM -0500, Kent West wrote: Yet when I try to create a directory or copy a file, etc I get Permission Denied errors. Are you trying to do this as root? As a security measure, NFS defaults to converting all accesses from root to accesses from the user nobody. To enable access as root, add no_root_squash to the options in /etc/exports. and don't forget user id mapping may confilct, too. if you try to access a nfs-mounted device, you may read/write with client's permissions, but that do not neccesarely be the same than on nfs-server. you will have to take shure about same uid on both machines or on appropriate uid-mapping, see manpage (mount, nfs ...) gerhard
XTerm and marking text
I'm coming from SuSE and one thing I noticed is that I'm no longer able to mark text in scrolled-up xterm windows. Eg. I cat a file, scroll up with Shift-PgUp and then tries to mark something with either double-clicking or dragging the mouse over the text with the left mousebutton pressed. Nothing is marked at all. I'm able to mark text in non-scrolled-up xterms. This has always worked for me in all other distributions I've been running. Any ideas? This is on a potato system running enlightenment. $ dpkg -l xterm enlightenment-nosound ii xterm 3.3.3.1-9 X terminal emulator ii enlightenment-n 0.15.5-1 The Enlightenment Window Manager with --Tomas Pihl Another GNU/Debian user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: https connections?
Nate wrote: Hi folks. I have installed apache-ssl. I still cannot get https connections. What do I have to do to get this going. Documentation? Thanks give us a little more... how do you try, what does it say, what does logfile say, is there any appropriate networking set up? docs may be found (as usual) at /usr/doc/apache*, http://www.apache.org and many others. gerhard
telnet terminal gets garbled
I don't know why this happens, but when I telnet to my machine and I use dselect, emacs, or whatever. The text gets messed up. I use CRT for telneting. I have it set to vt100 and have the ansi box checked in the settings. I telnet to slackware boxes with the same settings and they work fine. It seems that Debian doesn't interpret what I type properly. Is there a way to fix this? bb
RE: gnome session-panel X problems
I don't have an .xsession file, or mabye I dleted it in trying to clense the problem. I deleted all the X related hidden stuff. .gnome* and such. I tried to get it to revert to defaults to see if that would help, but it doesn't. Seems like gnome doesn't understand i want to exit!! Well, I thought the problem was sound (trying to play a sound on exit and getting stuck) ..but i got sound working and thats not the case. I've removed and reinstalled gnome too.Hmm ..to be continued. Anyone else see this problem? bb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 8:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: gnome session-panel X problems In a message dated 7/3/99 8:02:36 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I installed gnome and e. The session panel doesn't seem to load up. All i can do is right click and middle click. What does your .xsession file say? You might not have panel listed as booting up. Also, another problem i'm having with X: When I Log out, the window manager closes, (the borders and such disapear) but the system doesn't return to gdm. It sits in X till i press ctrl-alt-bkspc. Anyone know why this might be? I can't figure it out. Why not just start an xterm and use the shutdown command? There's not really anything you can't do in X that you can in console. Hope this helps. Colin Winters
Re: XTerm and marking text
I'm coming from SuSE and one thing I noticed is that I'm no longer able to mark text in scrolled-up xterm windows. .. $ dpkg -l xterm enlightenment-nosound ii xterm 3.3.3.1-9 X terminal emulator I installed -10 and I have it working now. --Tomas Pihl Another GNU/Debian user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
Hello, Sami Dalouche: The operative word being `need to'. It'd be a very good feature indeed if the e-mail client checked the size of the message and said, when appropriate, something along the lines of this is an unusually large message by Internet standards; are you sure? (y/N) and popped up a wizard for other ways of transferring the file. Hey ! Writing such a software for Windows os OK and usual but do not begin to do this under Linux ! Actually, I think I *was* talking about Windows, but why not Linux? (OK, apart from the pop-up-wizard bit...) Every mailer I've seen has a send/abort/headers/whatever screen just before the message goes off. In elm, most of the screen is blank for that! It'd be just as easy to use that part of screen for netiquette warnings. (I think tin - the newsreader - does that for postings. After you compose a post, when it's asking you whether you want to post/quit/edit/pgp, it often shows a message saying your post exceeds 78 columns; people may have trouble with that; the first line to exceed 78 columns is: `...' or something on those lines.) It's one thing to send Christmas gifs to people that are a couple of hundred bytes long; it's quite a different story when it's a huge, uncompressed bitmap which does exactly the same job. Sadly, in most e-mail clients either would be just a filename, with no immediate indication of how big it really is. If u insist to have a such function, maybe Mutt can do that... That's where it belongs, isn't it? (Well, maybe there should be a standalone version of that program, too - you'd give it a prepared message and it'd give back any warnings, with exit code 0 for OK, 1 for minor faux pas, etc.) Jiri -- Jiri Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'll know the future has arrived when every mailer transparently quotes lines that begin with From , but no-one remembers why.
squid - why?
Hi, we have installed Slink on a box that will be a normal company web server. This means will have normal visitors wanting to know about our company and maybe some e-commerce going on also. I chose to install Debian as web server which, after I brought the box up, includes the proxy squid (and of course Apache). What I would like to know is why I need squid running on this box which will be a normal web server with a couple of million hits a months? Will normal users vivting our site benfit from this, or can I remove squid? TIA --- Regards, Christian Dysthe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~cdysthe ICQ 3945810 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux --- Clones are people two
Re: squid - why?
On Sun, 04 Jul 1999 08:18:25 -0500 (CDT), you wrote: I chose to install Debian as web server which, after I brought the box up, includes the proxy squid (and of course Apache). What I would like to know is why I need squid running on this box which will be a normal web server with a couple of million hits a months? Will normal users vivting our site benfit from this, or can I remove squid? If you don't want to use the box as web proxy, you can safely remove squid. IMHO, this profile stuff is for the novice. I usually skip dselect altogether and use apt-get to install _exactly_ what I need. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
Re: Upgrading slink - potato
Don't use dselect. Use apt-get dist-upgrade. If you are concerned about glibc, put your libc6 package on hold and APT won't touch it. How to put a pkg on hold w/o dselect ? -- |. ICQ : 25529539 || |\ | | | \ / AIM : linhax |___ | | \| |__| / \ IRC nick : linhax Sami Dalouche : [EMAIL PROTECTED]DHIS : pingoo.dhis.org
E-mail for dummies.
Sofar I'm quite happy with Linux, Debian and the documentation. If you read all you can find on the subject, use your senses and experiment a bit you can always get done what you want. However, for me the one thing that still remains a mystery is the setting up of a mail system. I'm used to telnetting and Pine to read my mail, but now with a stand alone machine, a ppp connection to my ISP I just can't understand how the whole setup works. I've read the NAG and MailHOWTO, but both were written in such a way that I can't find no head nor tail. Could someone please post a quick mail-system setup for dummies? As said, I simply want to connect to my ISP, collect/download my mail and read it in a browser-like X program like Mahogany. What is the principle setup? (Please, explain a bit!!!) What programs do I best use for what? What do these programs do? How do they interconnect? What is the sequence of collecting and sending mail? Is there any other on-line documentation besides the NAG and MailHOWTO? I have lots of time to read, much less to work on my system :-( Thanks for the help. -- Hans
Re: CD Changer setup
On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 01:24:22PM -0700, Rick Salvador wrote: Hi, I have a NEC CDR-4300a 4disk cd changer drive, and I would like to have a way that I could access the 4 disks remotely through the FTPD. Is this possible? How Do I mount disks 2-4? and how can I have the FTP server change disks? I'm not sure but maybe an automounter can do that... Try autofs, after adding the support in the kernel... If autofs can't, try using Amd which seems to be powerful but it's too complicated for me. Mybe u can ask him to use the eject command ?(is this the command to change a CD ?) -- |. ICQ : 25529539 || |\ | | | \ / AIM : linhax |___ | | \| |__| / \ IRC nick : linhax Sami Dalouche : [EMAIL PROTECTED]DHIS : pingoo.dhis.org
Re: gnome session-panel X problems
If you're not starting gnome by hand, just create a new one using vi or whatever. type in : panel exec gnome-session. This'll start your panel and GNOME. I'm not familiar with e, i use ICE myself, so i can't help you there. Colin Winters
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 06:28:37PM +0200, Sami Dalouche wrote: It's one thing to send Christmas gifs to people that are a couple of hundred bytes long; it's quite a different story when it's a huge, uncompressed bitmap which does exactly the same job. Sadly, in most e-mail clients either would be just a filename, with no immediate indication of how big it really is. If u insist to have a such function, maybe Mutt can do that... Mutt is not (should not) be concerned with fetching mail. From the doc: Note: The POP3 support is there only for convenience, and it's rather limited. If you need more functionality you should consider using a specialized program, such as fetchmail. If you are using an external (eg ISP) pop account then you should probably be using fetchmail which has an option to limit the size of message. If you are receiving your messages directly and are concerned with hd space you can junk them with procmail (or exim filters :P). Thats why unix is better imho than other os like win: there is not one big app but many small apps which are working together. This makes it much more customizeables, and also easier to upgrade. Some people like the win philosophy of having one do-it-all program, this is a matter of taste. True, those will maybe regret OE... -Lex pgphHqP6lv1JT.pgp Description: PGP signature
SVGATextMode
Hi, I'm having trouble with SVGATextMode. I have an S3 Virge DX, but every time I use a mode using a frequency over 37.5 MHz, I have display problems: at 40MHz some chars become unreadable, at 45 only some chars are actually readable and at 50 it gets simply impossible to read anything. Strangely enough, the problems only start after I've run X once. The output of grabmode is exactly the same before and after running X: 132x34 40.035 1056 1072 1232 1280 476 490 492 525 -Hsync -Vsync font 8x14 # 31.277kHz/59.58Hz I tried with different monitors, but it didnt change anything. The one im using now can handle 30-54 kHz H and 50-90 Hz V. Also the manual states a max bandwidth of 75 MHz. Anyone experienced something similar? If so I'd like to hear the solution :-) -Lex pgp8EnRq62CZ4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can't write to an nfs export
and don't forget user id mapping may confilct, too. you will have to make shure about same uid on both machines or on appropriate uid-mapping, see manpage (mount, nfs ...) And of course, see /usr/doc/nis/nis.debian.howto.gz My huge home network consists of 2 computers and even in this simple situation nis is making life easier. Wouter.
Re: E-mail for dummies.
On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 09:43:06PM +0800, Hans van den Boogert wrote: Could someone please post a quick mail-system setup for dummies? As said, I simply want to connect to my ISP, collect/download my mail and read it in a browser-like X program like Mahogany. What is the principle setup? (Please, explain a bit!!!) What programs do I best use for what? What do these programs do? How do they interconnect? What is the sequence of collecting and sending mail? If you dont have a permanent connection to the internet the best way I know of is to use fetchmail. fetchmail will fetch (hehe...) the messages on your ISP (or your mail account wherever it is) and delivers them locally. Then you can either have your mail server (exim, if you used the defaults) handle them, or use a MDA like procmail to deliver them. For example, using procmail, I have: poll mail.telebot.net proto pop3 user pop_user pass pop_pass is local_user mda procmail -d local_user in ~/.fetchmailrc and then I just need to run fetchmail to get my mail. Once it has been delivered locally you can use any mail client to read it (mutt, pine, I guess Mahogany would work too although I never heard of it :). Is there any other on-line documentation besides the NAG and MailHOWTO? I have lots of time to read, much less to work on my system :-( Thanks for the help. -- Hans Well if you use fetchmail you probably want to read its manpage. If you use procmail you should read the doc under /usr/doc/procmail and if you use exim you probably want to install the exim-doc package and read the info files it has installed. Good luck, Lex pgp6e0JwhcxtS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hylafax problems
John Plate wrote: Hi Cuno Sonnemans I've had Hylafax running for quite some time. It works just fine. Did you solve the problems? If you are going to have incoming calls to your fax modem, you must hack the mgetty configuration file a little. Caio -- John Plate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi John, No I didn't solve the problem, yet !!! I Get the following warning: faxrunq hasn't been run in the last 24 hours I've been told that I have to install a cron job that calls faxrunq in regular intervals, as root user. Because faxspool will only put the job into the Queue, but won't care about sending it out that's faxrunq's job, and cron is used to start faxrunq in the intervals I like. But I don't know how to install a cron job. And I don't have the cron job manual, so I have to download it. I Hope when I have the manual and the cron job is installed, that I will be able to send out a fax. HTH Cuno Sonnemans
Re: squid - why?
On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Christian Dysthe wrote: we have installed Slink on a box that will be a normal company web server. This means will have normal visitors wanting to know about our company and maybe some e-commerce going on also. I chose to install Debian as web server which, after I brought the box up, includes the proxy squid (and of course Apache). What I would like to know is why I need squid running on this box which will be a normal web server with a couple of million hits a months? Will normal users vivting our site benfit from this, or can I remove squid? If i understand correctly, if squid is set up properly then it can reduce the load on the webserver by caching frequently-used static contant and serving that up itself. This is especially useful in a firewall setup, squid could be on a machine outside the firewall to reduce the traffic through the firewal machine. There's a faq at http://squid.nlanr.net/Squid/FAQ/FAQ.html that could be useful...
Re: Hylafax problems
On 1999-07-04 17:46, Cuno Sonnemans wrote: I Get the following warning: faxrunq hasn't been run in the last 24 hours I've been told that I have to install a cron job that calls faxrunq in regular intervals, as root user. Yes or you can run faxrunq by hand - execute faxrunq when you have some faxes to send out. Because faxspool will only put the job into the Queue, but won't care about sending it out that's faxrunq's job, and cron is used to start faxrunq in the intervals I like. But I don't know how to install a cron job. su crontab -e The format of the files (from crontab(5)) is: field allowed values - -- minute 0-59 hour 0-23 day of month 1-31 month 1-12 (or names, see below) day of week0-7 (0 or 7 is Sun, or use names) followed by a command, all on a single line. You should have the cron and crontab pages as part of the cron package. /Allan -- Allan M. Wind Phone: 781.938.5272 (home) 687 Main Street, 2nd Floor Fax:781.938.6641 (fax/modem) Woburn, MA 01801Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home)
Linking c programs?
Hi, I've been trying to compile a c program which uses maths functions like pow() and cbrt(), I've included the #include math.h and it compiles to an object ok. However when I try to compile it to a program I get: /tmp/ccc13322: In function `difi': /tmp/ccc13322(.text+0xea): undefined reference to `cbrt' Am I supposed to use some command line to gcc to make it work, I've been using gcc -o it it.c to make a program called 'it' from the source 'it.c' Any help would be greatly appreciated, TIA -- Best Wishes, Andy Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are MicroSoft. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. -- Attributed to B.G., Gill Bates
Re: E-mail for dummies.
On 04-Jul-99 Lex Chive wrote: If you dont have a permanent connection to the internet the best way I know of is to use fetchmail. fetchmail will fetch (hehe...) the messages on your ISP (or your mail account wherever it is) and delivers them locally. Then you can either have your mail server (exim, if you used the defaults) handle them, or use a MDA like procmail to deliver them. For example, using procmail, I have: That's right. If you use Exim, you probably don't need procmail. Once it has been delivered locally you can use any mail client to read it (mutt, pine, I guess Mahogany would work too although I never heard of it Mahogany is new, and still has some bugs, but I like it. I am still using xfmail but want to move to Mahogany as soon as some of the little bugs are fixed. -- Andrew
Re: SVGATextMode
On 04 Jul 1999, Lex Chive wrote: Hi, I'm having trouble with SVGATextMode. I have an S3 Virge DX, but every time I use a mode using a frequency over 37.5 MHz, I have display problems: at 40MHz some chars become unreadable, at 45 only some chars are actually readable and at 50 it gets simply impossible to read anything. Strangely enough, the problems only start after I've run X once. The output of grabmode is exactly the same before and after running X: 132x34 40.035 1056 1072 1232 1280 476 490 492 525 -Hsync -Vsync font 8x14 # 31.277kHz/59.58Hz I tried with different monitors, but it didnt change anything. The one im using now can handle 30-54 kHz H and 50-90 Hz V. Also the manual states a max bandwidth of 75 MHz. Anyone experienced something similar? If so I'd like to hear the solution :-) -Lex This is probably not very helpful, but the author of SVGATextmode announced recently that he was ceasing to support it because he found it was no longer so useful with modern video cards. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.1 (Windows-free zone) Book Reviews: www.achc.demon.co.uk/bookreviews/ The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on... - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam)
Re: Linking c programs?
On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 05:10:59PM +0100, Andrew Holmes wrote: Hi, I've been trying to compile a c program which uses maths functions like pow() and cbrt(), I've included the #include math.h and it compiles to an object ok. However when I try to compile it to a program I get: /tmp/ccc13322: In function `difi': /tmp/ccc13322(.text+0xea): undefined reference to `cbrt' Am I supposed to use some command line to gcc to make it work, I've been using gcc -o it it.c to make a program called 'it' from the source 'it.c' Any help would be greatly appreciated, TIA you also must link against the associated libraries of your includes, in your case libm, with the compiler switch -l. you need not to give the full name libm m is enough. so your command line should look like: gcc -lm -o it it.c HTH robert -- in a world without fences, who needs gates? -- das $yndikat lebt -- Abteilung Linux --
Re: Networking Question
At 10:03 PM 7/3/1999 -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: Hi everyone: other. In fact, they're doing it right now. It's so cool to see those little lights on my hub blink! Anyway, I manually entered in a bunch of stuff with ifconfig and route on each computer, and now I guess I Cool! You like to watch the lights blink too?? I thought I was the crazy one! Cheers to you!! William Flores William's Computer Consulting http://beam.to/wcc
sendmail - cannot email out from a laptop with no DNS?
Can anyone help, please, with this problem? I use a laptop at a customer's site, and when I am there, my laptop is configured as if it were one of their own machines and is listed in their /etc/hosts; they do not run DNS. Their mailserver is running Microsoft Exchange(?); I can download mail with POP3 and am supposed to be able to upload mail with SMTP. However, in every configuration I have tried, including specifying the IP address directly in the To: address, sendmail defers the mail, saying that it is unable to resolve the reference. /etc/nsswitch contains only files; the dns word is commented out. I have made sure that the SMTP server is listed in my /etc/hosts; this is the same host from which I successfully get mail with fetchmail (POP-3 protocol). -- Vote against SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/ Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. Psalms 46:1
Re: [SuSE Linux] What DO you lose with Linux ???
To a certain extent I have to agree, but where I REALLY think Linux lags behind is email. I miss an email client coming close to for instance Outlook Express and The Bat! for Windows (or even Eudora!). The only one is XFmail which currently is not being developed it seems. The Outlook family are generally considered broken even by ardent Microsoft fans. They ride rough shod over standards and convention, make it difficult to quote sesnibly, don't seem to do blind copies, and will send HTML, MS-TNEF and GIF images of the paper almost without warning. If you want a free Windows mail program, use Pegasus, preferably one of the older ones, as it has gone down hill with the introduction of rich text, which is about as broken as Outlook's. Unfortunately Pegasus is not available in source code and Eudora Lite is a teaser for a commercial product.
Re: Hylafax problems
Allan M. Wind wrote: On 1999-07-04 17:46, Cuno Sonnemans wrote: I Get the following warning: faxrunq hasn't been run in the last 24 hours I've been told that I have to install a cron job that calls faxrunq in regular intervals, as root user. Yes or you can run faxrunq by hand - execute faxrunq when you have some faxes to send out. Because faxspool will only put the job into the Queue, but won't care about sending it out that's faxrunq's job, and cron is used to start faxrunq in the intervals I like. But I don't know how to install a cron job. su crontab -e The format of the files (from crontab(5)) is: field allowed values - -- minute 0-59 hour 0-23 day of month 1-31 month 1-12 (or names, see below) day of week0-7 (0 or 7 is Sun, or use names) followed by a command, all on a single line. You should have the cron and crontab pages as part of the cron package. /Allan -- Allan M. Wind Phone: 781.938.5272 (home) 687 Main Street, 2nd Floor Fax:781.938.6641 (fax/modem) Woburn, MA 01801Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) OK, thanx. I've run faxrunq by hand, but now I have a new problem. I get the following message (my modem is on ttyS0, I've changed sendfax) /dev/ttyS0..OK /usr/sbin/sendfax: not a class 2/2.0 fax modem. What does it mean, class 2/2.0 fax modem. I have a internal Trust Communicator 56K fax modem ! HTH Cuno Sonnemans
Remove funny files
Hi! I was playing around with Tar, and done a verry foolish thing.. :-) tar -cvf --exclude=files.txt allfiles.tar * That gives me a '--exclude=files.txt' file. Trying to remove it as 'rm -i --exclude=files.txt' was unpossible. But when I go upp one directory, then it was easy to remove the file. rm -i Backupfiles/--exclude=files.txt ..but maby you allready know about this. :-) - * Linux - a more stable way to live * - -- Mvh Rolf Edlund Tel:070-3049194
Re: Remove funny files
On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 08:22:56PM +0200, Rolf Edlund wrote: Hi! I was playing around with Tar, and done a verry foolish thing.. :-) tar -cvf --exclude=files.txt allfiles.tar * That gives me a '--exclude=files.txt' file. Trying to remove it as 'rm -i --exclude=files.txt' was unpossible. But when I go upp one directory, then it was easy to remove the file. rm -i Backupfiles/--exclude=files.txt ..but maby you allready know about this. :-) - * Linux - a more stable way to live * - -- Mvh Rolf Edlund Tel:070-3049194 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Hi, I played around with it and I got it to delete by running mc then highlighting the offending file and pressing F8 hth -- __ _ Mark Wagnon Debian GNU/ -o) / / (_)__ __ __ Chula Vista, CA /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ http://www.debian.org
Re: Remove funny files
On 1999-07-04 20:22, Rolf Edlund wrote: rm -i Backupfiles/--exclude=files.txt There are 2 tricks: 1. rm -i * (say no to everything that you want to keep) 2. rm -- FILE In this case, 2 would work. /Allan -- Allan M. Wind Phone: 781.938.5272 (home) 687 Main Street, 2nd Floor Fax:781.938.6641 (fax/modem) Woburn, MA 01801Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home)
Re: faxrunq problems
Allan M. Wind wrote: On 1999-07-04 20:20, Cuno Sonnemans wrote: I've run faxrunq by hand, but now I have a new problem. I get the following message (my modem is on ttyS0, I've changed sendfax) /dev/ttyS0..OK /usr/sbin/sendfax: not a class 2/2.0 fax modem. It states that you serial port 1 is not a fax modem. What serial port is your modem? (probably serial 3 or 4 when it's an internal). Then you have to change your device in /etc/mgetty/sendfax.config. /Allan -- Allan M. Wind Phone: 781.938.5272 (home) 687 Main Street, 2nd Floor Fax:781.938.6641 (fax/modem) Woburn, MA 01801Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Hi, I already changed /etc/mgetty/sendfax.config Default = ttyS1, I've changed it in ttyS0 (Serial port 2) So that couldn't be the problem. faxrunq locates my modem, but say's that it is not a class 2/2.0 fax modem. So I think faxrunq has a problem with my type of modem. Yet it is an fax modem. Cuno SonnemansICQ22098498 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hardware block size on scsi cdrom
I have a scsi cdrom (Plextor) and a scsi cdwriter (Yamaha). They both have a jumper to set the block size to 1024 bytes or to 512 bytes. The manuals say that for Unix 512 is the good value. Do you have any suggestions? What does this value mean, after all? Pf -- --- Pierfrancesco Caci | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://gusp.infogroup.it ik5pvx| http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/8999 Firenze - Italia | Office for the Complication of Otherwise Simple Affairs Linux penny 2.2.10 #1 Tue Jun 15 21:03:12 CEST 1999 i586 unknown
Where is klogd instructed to dump the ring buffer into syslog?
Hi! My Debian box seems to write the boot messages (that can be accessed by dmesg) to the syslog on boot-up. The SuSE box at work has code to dump this information to a file (/usr/sbin/klogd -f /var/log/boot.msg -o) in /sbin/init.d/boot. I am curious. Where do I find the code that does this on Debian? I grepped for klogd in /etc but did not find explicit code to do so. Debian has klogd 1.3-3 while SuSE has 1.3-0. Is this a new feature? Is it possible that the explicit dump to file code emties the buffers so that klogd can't log them any more when it is started as daemon later in the boot process? Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
getting Realplayer to work through Netscape
Hello, I have been trying to get Realplayer G2 to work through Netscape. I have installed the Alsa drivers onto my debian 2.1 box and installed the RealplayerG2 app. When I try to access a sound file by clicking on an icon in Netscape, the G2 player comes up and says it is Connecting, but nothing else happens. Simultaneously my xconsole says the following when I try to connect to an audio file through Netscape : modprobe: can't locate module sound-slot-0 modprobe: can't locate module sound-service-0-3 I can get my sound card to work using Alsa, i.e. I can play music CD's and listen to .au sounds files, and I have configured Realplayer G2 through Netscape correctly ( at least I think so. ) , my .mailcap file correctly lists the realplayer app: audio/x-pn-realaudio; /usr/X11R6/bin/realplayer %s If this info helps, I have a SB pci128 ( ens1370 ). The command lsmod gives the following output that is attached to the email bellow. Any suggestions? Thank you, -- Monte Copeland ICQ# 2586902 Linux - Where Do You Want To Go Tomorrow? -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: ddCT7t1D8PRhrVt5RLlwbwPzjP83u/WF owEBVACr/4kAPwMFADdn5tE00Q7SQi85yREC0uAAoLbYBBg7ONtj+uTtIYgvDCXq Q0JUAJ0Ql90D6K1AH3bKvFc26lx4bj42h6wQYgouc2lnbmF0dXJlbA7GeA== =fyo/ -END PGP MESSAGE- Module Size Used by snd-audiopci2204 0 snd-ens1370 8632 0 [snd-audiopci] snd-pcm1 15764 0 [snd-ens1370] snd-pcm 8756 0 [snd-audiopci snd-pcm1] snd-ac97-codec 9192 0 [snd-ens1370] snd-midi 13756 0 [snd-audiopci snd-ens1370] snd-mixer 13548 0 [snd-audiopci snd-ens1370 snd-ac97-codec] snd29740 1 [snd-audiopci snd-ens1370 snd-pcm1 snd-pcm snd-ac97-codec snd-midi snd-mixer]
[RedHat]: Automatic Hardware Detection
Does anyone know if RedHat 6.x does Automatic Hardware Detection? Regards, Paulo Jorge Matos aka PDestroy Minister of FortuneCity - Marina District http://www.fortunecity.com Personal Page : http://pdestroy.fortunecity.com Fed. Portuguesa de JuJutsu e D.A. Webmaster : http://welcome.to/fpjujutsu World Kobudo Federation - Portugal Webmaster : http://welcome.to/wkf-pt E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Page me at : http://wwp.mirabilis.com/361853#pager Site Builders Network Level 2 Member HTML Writers Guild Member
RE: gnome session-panel X problems
I just went through my logs and I have the same errors in my .gnome-errors file. My .gnome-errors is 14k! Thats from one start of gnome, but it looks like they are mostly errors with sound. I'll try and fix that now and see what else happens. Brendon -Original Message- From: Didi Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 9:36 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: gnome session-panel X problems Brendon Baumgartner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed gnome and e. The session panel doesn't seem to load up. All i can do is right click and middle click. I have the same problem. Whenever I try to start the gnome panel and/or gmc they fail with this error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.enlightenment/cached/pager/ panel ** WARNING **: Could not get name service! ** ERROR **: file goad.c: line 606 (real_goad_server_activate): assertion failed: (name_service != CORBA_OBJECT_NIL) aborting... Aborted If I issue the command a second time they start normal. This has the implications that I can't start either when I start X. If I 'exec gnome-session' in .xsession, I don't get the panel. If I specify to load the panel explicitely it just hangs for a moment and then it barfs out. I had this problem from the beginning,, with gnome 1.06 and yesterday I upgraded to 1.07 but it didn't solve it. Does anybody know what's wrong and how can I fix it ? TIA -- D.Damian -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: [RedHat]: Automatic Hardware Detection
On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 09:13:28PM +0100, Paulo J Matos aka PDestroy wrote: Does anyone know if RedHat 6.x does Automatic Hardware Detection? What's automatic hardware detection? PnP? -Lex pgpO73diF41kN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Glibc 2.0.7t-1 - 2.0.7u - that shouldn't break anything, should it?
As the subject says. 2.0.7t-1 and 2.0.7u sounds pretty compatible to me. Right? Thanks! -- / Peter Schuller --- PGP userID: 0x5584BD98 or 'Peter Schuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]' E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://hem.passagen.se/petersch Help create a free Java based operating system - www.jos.org. pgp5VePnzbvYi.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Re: Hylafax problems
On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 08:20:24PM +0200, Cuno Sonnemans wrote: Allan M. Wind wrote: On 1999-07-04 17:46, Cuno Sonnemans wrote: I Get the following warning: faxrunq hasn't been run in the last 24 hours I've been told that I have to install a cron job that calls faxrunq in regular intervals, as root user. Yes or you can run faxrunq by hand - execute faxrunq when you have some faxes to send out. Because faxspool will only put the job into the Queue, but won't care about sending it out that's faxrunq's job, and cron is used to start faxrunq in the intervals I like. What version of hylafax are you running? I have hylafax-server and hylafax-client 4.0.2-9 installed and there are no faxrunq or faxspool commands in either of these. But I don't know how to install a cron job. su crontab -e The format of the files (from crontab(5)) is: field allowed values - -- minute 0-59 hour 0-23 day of month 1-31 month 1-12 (or names, see below) day of week0-7 (0 or 7 is Sun, or use names) followed by a command, all on a single line. You should have the cron and crontab pages as part of the cron package. /Allan -- Allan M. Wind Phone: 781.938.5272 (home) 687 Main Street, 2nd Floor Fax:781.938.6641 (fax/modem) Woburn, MA 01801Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) OK, thanx. I've run faxrunq by hand, but now I have a new problem. I get the following message (my modem is on ttyS0, I've changed sendfax) /dev/ttyS0..OK /usr/sbin/sendfax: not a class 2/2.0 fax modem. What does it mean, class 2/2.0 fax modem. I have a internal Trust Communicator 56K fax modem ! This sounds like /etc/hylafax/config.ttyS0 is misconfigured. Did you successfully run faxaddmodem? Bob -- Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
NFS Installation
Hi,We have encountered some problems regarding configuring NFS in Debian system. We haven't got parameters about server and the notation used, in the screen Choose Debian NFS Filesystem. If you could help us, we appreciate. Thanks.
Re: Remove funny files
Rolf == Rolf Edlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rolf That gives me a '--exclude=files.txt' file. Trying to remove it Rolf as 'rm -i --exclude=files.txt' was unpossible. But when I go upp Rolf one directory, then it was easy to remove the file. -- starts an option. Commands, that accept --option style options use -- to indicate that the following words are to be taken literaly. That is, rm -i -- --exclude=files.txt would have removed the file. Ciao, Martin
Hot-247 sound card
Hello , i run Debian 2.1 and its all up to date everything is working nicely .. i am running Icewm , with gnome for a window manager Problem: i Cannot get my sound card to initialize , or load , and i dont know which module is compatible. ive tried installing each module 1 by 1 until i got sound output from playing a cd in Gnome ... i sill cannot figure this out , here is a URL with my sound card specs .. maybe you can tell me what to choose or set my cound card as , does Debian have a soundsetup like Redhat ? Url: http://www.spacewalker.com/faq_e/247.HTM Thanks , please letme know if you have any ideas
Re: [RedHat]: Automatic Hardware Detection
Automatic Hardware detection is what Win98 has for example... When you install a printer, and restart win98, it'll say that there is a new printer and install it for you. I would like to know if RedHat or any other Linux type OS can do that. Regards, At 22:43 04-07-1999 +0200, Lex Chive wrote: On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 09:13:28PM +0100, Paulo J Matos aka PDestroy wrote: Does anyone know if RedHat 6.x does Automatic Hardware Detection? What's automatic hardware detection? PnP? -Lex Paulo Jorge Matos aka PDestroy Minister of FortuneCity - Marina District http://www.fortunecity.com Personal Page : http://pdestroy.fortunecity.com Fed. Portuguesa de JuJutsu e D.A. Webmaster : http://welcome.to/fpjujutsu World Kobudo Federation - Portugal Webmaster : http://welcome.to/wkf-pt E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Page me at : http://wwp.mirabilis.com/361853#pager Site Builders Network Level 2 Member HTML Writers Guild Member
Securing system
Hi all: Okay. I seem to have my two computers networked together. In fact I've telneted into my machine that has a direct internet connection to write this email. I have some questions on how to go about making my system more secure. When I first had my cable modem installed, one of the first things I did was comment out the services in /etc/inet.conf. Now I've gone back and un-commented the line for telnet (I assumed I had to in order to telnet into my gateway (is that right?)). But i've read in the past that telnet isn't very secure and that people can intercept logins and passwords when one telnets to a computer. Can anyone supply some security related resources that can get this neophyte started? I realize that the first thing I should do is upgrade my kernel (and I'll do it today). tia -- __ _ Mark Wagnon Debian GNU/ -o) / / (_)__ __ __ Chula Vista, CA /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ http://www.debian.org
Re: Linking c programs?
Hi, When you compile a library function into your program the system has to be told in which libraries to look for these references during linking. A small set of libraries such as stdio are always checked for by the compiler - but it doesn't check all the libraries for references to functions as this would take *way* too long. If your library is in the standard place of /lib/ then you only have to specify it's short name, if it is in a non-standard place you have to specify the full path eg /home/steve/lib. The standard places to look are defined for the system with ldconfig. So you should be able to compile with: gcc -Wall -o it it.c -lm The -l is for link and the m is the shortest name for the library which is unique e.g libname.major.minor. There is some explanation of why the library has to come last but I can't remember! If your gonna spend any time programming yourself I'd recommend the Prgogramming with Free Software from O'Reilly or Beginning Linux Programming from Wrox. Generally I haven't been able to find comparable 'easy to read' web content :( HTH Steve On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 05:10:59PM +0100, Andrew Holmes wrote: Hi, I've been trying to compile a c program which uses maths functions like pow() and cbrt(), I've included the #include math.h and it compiles to an object ok. However when I try to compile it to a program I get: /tmp/ccc13322: In function `difi': /tmp/ccc13322(.text+0xea): undefined reference to `cbrt' Am I supposed to use some command line to gcc to make it work, I've been using gcc -o it it.c to make a program called 'it' from the source 'it.c' Any help would be greatly appreciated, TIA -- Best Wishes, Andy Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are MicroSoft. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. -- Attributed to B.G., Gill Bates -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Securing system
Hi Mark, The first thing you should do is comment telnet back in until you have drawn up your security strategy ;-) The standard things people will tell you to do are: - turn everything off - use inetd/wrappers with PARANOIA for anything you *have* to have on - use packet filtering ie ipchains - use a logchecker - keep backups for WHEN you get broken into. Unfortunately if you are on a cable modem you are easy meat since your available 24/7 and because often the people who connect have no real security idea they are a useful staging post for a cracker. I currently get scanned about 2x a day at work and often they are from IP's that resolve to cable modems. I would suggest that you ate tke time to review material at cert such as the architectural design of unix security, the LDP has some good links and there is the security HOWTO (or equiv titled). For a faster/dirtier guide try: https://www.seifried.org/lasg/ This is a book on securing your system by Kurt Seifried, I haven't read the new version but the first one was perfectly capable if RH focused. HTH, Steve On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 02:21:58PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: Hi all: Okay. I seem to have my two computers networked together. In fact I've telneted into my machine that has a direct internet connection to write this email. I have some questions on how to go about making my system more secure. When I first had my cable modem installed, one of the first things I did was comment out the services in /etc/inet.conf. Now I've gone back and un-commented the line for telnet (I assumed I had to in order to telnet into my gateway (is that right?)). But i've read in the past that telnet isn't very secure and that people can intercept logins and passwords when one telnets to a computer. Can anyone supply some security related resources that can get this neophyte started? I realize that the first thing I should do is upgrade my kernel (and I'll do it today). tia -- __ _ Mark Wagnon Debian GNU/ -o) / / (_)__ __ __ Chula Vista, CA /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ http://www.debian.org -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
CD-RW drives and Linux
I'm looking into getting a CD-RW drive to go along with my Debian system. I'm looking at the following possible combinations. 1. SCSI CD-ROM and SCSI CD-RW 2. IDE CD-ROM and SCSI CD-RW 3. SCSI CD-ROM and IDE CD-RW 4. IDE CD-ROM and IDE CD-RW The cheapest option would be the IDE/IDE combo. Would an IDE CD-RW be easily used in Debian? Also, which drives are recommended? I'm more interested in burning CD-R discs than the ReWrite capabilities.
Re: [SuSE Linux] What DO you lose with Linux ???
I use the Netscape Mail program and am quite happy with it. I've recently returned to Netscape Mail from Pegasus, which is nice, but has a few little annoying things that Netscape doesn't: New messages appear in the New Mail folder. Once they move from there (after reading) they can't be put back, even if you mark messages as unread. If you search for messages by criteria you get a list of matches. If you select one of them, it opens it (okay so far), but then when you finish the message and close it, you find that Pegasus has opened the folder it came from underneath. This leads to an annoying repetition of click on msg, read msg, close msg, close folder window. It also doesn't have Netscape's ease of searching on multiple fields. You can do it, but you have to parse together a command-line like search term rather than just clicking on add another search term like Netscape. It had a feature to autowrap quoting which I found nice - until I found it was unreliable in general, *never* worked for multi-level quoting and tended to auto-italicize (if you have that turned on) the wrong bits of the message. Sometimes text around the autowrapped area even disappeared! Like I say, generally little things, but annoying. Regardless of what you may think of the Netscape Browser, the Mail program is really a fairly nice piece of work... David Woolley wrote: To a certain extent I have to agree, but where I REALLY think Linux lags behind is email. I miss an email client coming close to for instance Outlook Express and The Bat! for Windows (or even Eudora!). The only one is XFmail which currently is not being developed it seems. The Outlook family are generally considered broken even by ardent Microsoft fans. They ride rough shod over standards and convention, make it difficult to quote sesnibly, don't seem to do blind copies, and will send HTML, MS-TNEF and GIF images of the paper almost without warning. If you want a free Windows mail program, use Pegasus, preferably one of the older ones, as it has gone down hill with the introduction of rich text, which is about as broken as Outlook's. Unfortunately Pegasus is not available in source code and Eudora Lite is a teaser for a commercial product. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- -- Revenant [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The whole principle is wrong; it's like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because the baby can't eat steak. - author Robert A. Heinlein on censorship.
Re: File Attributes in /var
Subject: File Attributes in /var Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 07:43:00AM +0200 In reply to:Klaus Pieper Quoting Klaus Pieper([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, After moving the /var directory to another partition using tar cfSp - * | ( cd /mnt tar xfSpv - ) I got problems because exim could not write to /var/spool/exim and /var/log/exim. How are the correct settings? I changed them to drwxrwx--- 5 root mail 1024 Jun 24 06:27 /var/spool/exim/ drwxrwx--- 2 root mail 1024 Jul 4 06:47 /var/log/exim/ What's wrong with the tar copy command? I never had any problem with it. Klaus VT1 root-Deb-Slink:~# ls -ld /var/spool/exim/ drwxr-x--- 5 mail mail 1024 Mar 4 14:57 /var/spool/exim/ root-Deb-Slink:~# ls -ld /var/log/exim drwxr-xr-x 2 mail mail 1024 Jul 4 12:58 /var/log/exim HTH, YMMV, HAND -- Using TSO is like kicking a dead whale down the beach. -- S. C. Johnson ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problems with listar-cgi
hi, i'm hoping someone can help me. i've got listar working and it seems very nice, but i want to play with the cgi frontend and i can't get it to do anything. i've just installed both listar and listar-cgi, have made to modifications necessary to have one working list and am trying to run the listargate.cgi program. when i run it via the web server i get premature end of script headers so i checked out the perl script and this line is commented out: print Content-type: text/plain\n\n$finalstr\n; but when i uncomment it and run it all i get is a print out of the command it looks like it should be running: /usr/lib/listar/listar -lsg lsg/933691793 to the screen. when i crank up the debugging i get this, which doesn't seem to have much useful in it ... [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'list-owner'='[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'sendmail-sleep'='no' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'sort-tolist'='yes' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'task-no-footer'='no' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'allow-setaddy'='yes' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'full-bounce'='no' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'global-blacklist'='banned' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'blacklist-file' failure (protected) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'blacklist-mask'='blacklist' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'welcome-file'='text/intro.txt' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'header-file'='text/reflector-header.txt' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'footer-file'='text/reflector-footer.txt' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'closed-file'='text/closed-post.txt' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'nopost-file'='text/nopost.txt' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'post-password-file'='text/postpassword.txt' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'digest-header-file'='text/digest-header.txt' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'digest-footer-file'='text/digest-footer.txt' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'digest-administrivia-file'='digest/administrivia' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'spamfile'='spam-regexp' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'moderator-welcome-file'='text/moderator.txt' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Done reading configuration file. [08/03/1999-06:52:43] ** INIT ** Listar v0.123a started: Tue Aug 3 06:52:43 1999 [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Path is: /usr/lib/listar [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Mailserver is: localhost [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Preparing to load dynamic modules... [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Trying to load '/usr/lib/listar/modules/bouncer.lpm' (bouncer)... [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Initting module Bouncer [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Trying to load '/usr/lib/listar/modules/administrivia.lpm' (administrivia)... [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Trying to load '/usr/lib/listar/modules/listarchive.lpm' (listarchive)... [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Initting module LISTARchive [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Trying to load '/usr/lib/listar/modules/filearchive.lpm' (filearchive)... [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Initting module File archive module (version 1.0) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Trying to load '/usr/lib/listar/modules/admin.lpm' (admin)... [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Initting module Admin [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Trying to load '/usr/lib/listar/modules/acctmgr.lpm' (acctmgr)... [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Initting module AcctMgr [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Trying to load '/usr/lib/listar/modules/stat.lpm' (stat)... [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Initting module Stats [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Trying to load '/usr/lib/listar/modules/send.lpm' (send)... [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Initting module Send [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Trying to load '/usr/lib/listar/modules/base.lpm' (base)... [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Initting module Base [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Trying to load '/usr/lib/listar/modules/digest.lpm' (digest)... [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Initting module Digest [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Trying to load '/usr/lib/listar/modules/antispam.lpm' (antispam)... [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Initting module AntiSPAM [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Trying to load '/usr/lib/listar/modules/listargate.lpm' (listargate)... [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Initting module ListarGate [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'lists-root'='/var/lib/listar/lists' (reset) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'queuefile'='/var/lib/listar/queue/37A7023B29783' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'mode'='nolist' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] LISTARGATE CmdArg [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'lsg-file'='lsg/933691963' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'mode'='listargate' (reset) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'fakequeue'='yes' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] destroy_var: destroying var 'lists-root' [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'lists-root'='/var/lib/listar/lists' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] LISTARGATE Mode [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'form-send-as'='[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (created) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Setvar: 'form-send-as'='[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (reset) [08/03/1999-06:52:43] Listar terminated on Tue Aug 3 06:52:43 1999
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RE: E-mail for dummies.
I was a Linux email newbie a few months back. What has brought me a good solution is a combo consisting of exim/fetchmail/XFmail. If I were you I would start out with XFmail on it's own. This email client is very simple to set up. It does what you expect a normal GUI based email client to do with ease. You will be able to receive mail in minutes! The only problem is that it doesn't do delivery and POP3 fetch in the background, so if you do a lot of mailing, and have a lot coming in, you will have to wait for the client to finish delivery/fetch before being able to continue your work. When you know how XFmail works you can add on fetchmail and exim which will fetch and deliver mail from your ISP in the background. XFmail can easily be configured to deal with mail managed by these two programs, which means you can grow into a more and more sofisticated solution without having to switch email client, convert mailboxes or other complicated adjustments. All these programs are packed and easily installed and configured for Debian. fetchmail has a GUI front-end for setting it up. exim has a script called eximconfig that will have it working for you quite easily (sendmail is much harder to deal with!), and XFmail has built in help and is VERY intuitive to use. I do tons of email daily as part of my work, and this combo is fast, safe and secure and very versatile without having to learn tons of key bindings and config file syntax. Good luck! :) On 04-Jul-99 Hans van den Boogert wrote: Sofar I'm quite happy with Linux, Debian and the documentation. If you read all you can find on the subject, use your senses and experiment a bit you can always get done what you want. However, for me the one thing that still remains a mystery is the setting up of a mail system. I'm used to telnetting and Pine to read my mail, but now with a stand alone machine, a ppp connection to my ISP I just can't understand how the whole setup works. I've read the NAG and MailHOWTO, but both were written in such a way that I can't find no head nor tail. Could someone please post a quick mail-system setup for dummies? As said, I simply want to connect to my ISP, collect/download my mail and read it in a browser-like X program like Mahogany. What is the principle setup? (Please, explain a bit!!!) What programs do I best use for what? What do these programs do? How do they interconnect? What is the sequence of collecting and sending mail? Is there any other on-line documentation besides the NAG and MailHOWTO? I have lots of time to read, much less to work on my system :-( Thanks for the help. -- Hans -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null --- Regards, Christian Dysthe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~cdysthe ICQ 3945810 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux --- Clones are people two