re: sblive and smp

[Kjohn Sasitorn]

Has anyone been able to get the sblive drivers to work in SMP? I don't
care what version kernel as long as it's 2.2.x or greater. It really
sucks to go into uniprocessor mode.

-ks

Re: mail and security

[Seth R Arnold]

Drat. I wanted a package to maintain. And, since I like slocate, I figured
that it would be a good one to maintain. Back to the wnpp for me I guess.

:)

On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 12:33:28AM +0200, peter karlsson wrote:
> > Which reminds me -- why does debian still use the gnu locate, rather than
> > slocate (secure locate) -- 
> 
> It's there all right:
> 
>  slocate   2.0-1 H 25KB 59KB  
> utils
> +-[slocate]---+
> | a secure locate replacement 
> |
> |  This locate shows all files on your system that you have access to. locate 
> |
> |  only does the files it has access to(usually the ones nobody has access
> |
> |  to). If you install suidmanager this pkg will use suidregister.
> |
> +-+
> 
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Re: mail and security

[peter karlsson]

> Which reminds me -- why does debian still use the gnu locate, rather than
> slocate (secure locate) -- 

It's there all right:

 slocate   2.0-1 H 25KB 59KB  utils
+-[slocate]---+
| a secure locate replacement |
|  This locate shows all files on your system that you have access to. locate |
|  only does the files it has access to(usually the ones nobody has access|
|  to). If you install suidmanager this pkg will use suidregister.|
+-+

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Re: Kicstart in Debian-Linux

[Seth R Arnold]

Within the last month, someone on the debian-devel mailing list mentioned he
had such a system that worked for him. Look for a thread involving recent
magazine reviews of various linux distros.

:)

On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 08:46:41PM +0200, Jan Smith wrote:
> I've been looking around for different ways of installing a big number of
> PC's with Debian.
> I want a way to do more or less automatic.
> I like the way Redhat has solved it but I want to install Debian instead of
> Redhat.
> 
> Does anybody have a solution?
> I want to install from a fileserver and hopefully only need to use a 
> boot-discette when I start each PC.
> 
> I'm not on the list so add me to the receiverlist if you answer this email.
> 
>/Jan Smith
> 
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Re: mail and security

[Seth R Arnold]

Nope -- that is the locate program updating the list of files on your
harddrive. If you don't like this, you can uninstall locate, but I suggest
you just start to like it instead. :)

Which reminds me -- why does debian still use the gnu locate, rather than
slocate (secure locate) -- it will only show files that the user has the
ability to see -- root sees all files, and normal users see all the files
they have access to seeing. 

I suppose, if I like it enough (which I do :) I should just debianize it and
maybe after a year or so, suggest it replace gnu locate.

:)

On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 06:48:05AM +0300, tf wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> I'm reading with intrest several threads, and have a bunch of questions
> about mailing (like, what exactly is exim or sendmail actually doing...)
> 
> but I have a better question first.  I was online a few minutes ago,
> when I noticed alot of disk activity.  I checked top and saw that user
> nobody issued a find command.  I just disconnected.  Guess I should
> change my password.
> 
> 
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Re: latex

[shaul]

> Hi all,
> 
> where can I found a latex tutorial ?
> 

http://bluesky.ecas.ou.edu/~bfiedler/tips/latex.html
http://www-h.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/textprocessing/
http://sunsite.auc.dk/auctex/
http://la1ad.uio.no/lyx/
ftp://granroth.ml.org/pub/Latex/short_intro.ps

re: sblive & smp

[Kjohn Sasitorn]

H

Re: checking integers in scripts?

[Peter Palfrader aka Weasel]

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On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 10:24:17PM +0100, Steve George wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to write a script to check if ipforwarding is running on my 
> access box but I can't work out how to check for an integer in a script.  It 
> may be clearer what I am trying to do for the bit of the script:
> 
> #Check if ipfwadm is on
> IPFORW = `cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward`
> if [ IPFORW == 0 ]; then
>   echo "ipforwarding is OFF"
>   exit 0
> fi



a few approaches:



IPFORW=`cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward`
#^^^ no spaces I assume



* if [ $IPFORW == 0 ] ; then echo "off"; fi
  #   ^^^ the $ sign

* if (test $IPFORW = 0); then echo "off"; fi


  # You might also come along without a variable:
* if [ `cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward` == 0 ] ; then echo "off"; fi



or totally different:

* if (/bin/grep 0 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward -q) ; then echo "off"; fi


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Re: "signal 11 caught by ps"

[Alberto Maurizi]

On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Sean Cazzell wrote:

> I'm getting this error under potato now also.  I'm running kernel 
> 2.2.10 (compiled with gcc 2.95.2 10906 (prerelease)).  Have 
> you found a solution for this problem yet?  I'll let you know if I figure 
> it out :)

Have you tried with top?
My top causes a wonderful "segmentation fault"!!!
I downgraded kernel to 2.0.36 and the problem disappeared.
The conclusion is: it depends on how the kernel manages 
the /proc filesystem (with some new version of procps package,
because it worked before an upgrade). 
But ...
But I don't get the same in another machine running
another compiled version of the same kernel sources (2.2.10)
I have no more ideas nor enough time to think of but ...
... if any solutions will appear in my dreams ...
I'll let you know.

Cheers,
Alberto
> 
> 
> - Sean
> 

RE: Kicstart in Debian-Linux

[Fraser Campbell]

On September 19, 1999 you wrote:

> Does anybody have a solution?
> I want to install from a fileserver and hopefully only need to use a
> boot-discette when I start each PC.

I have put together a collection of .debs and an install script that
basically gives you a running X without answering anything beyond the boot
disk(s).

1. Install the boot and driver disks, install base via. NFS and reboot.
2. On reboot skip dselect, NFS mount .deb directory.
3. Type install.sh in the NFS mounted directory.

What you get is a very bare-bones system ... Debian + X.  I still need to
fine-tune the package list but for now it works.  The install is about 55
MB total and should give you X running at 800x600 assuming capable
hardware.

I have everything available at http://WeHave.Net/debian/ if you are
interested.  I plan to use this for installing Debian on 486s we have
laying around here.  They'll make great Xterminals.  Total install time on
a 486-66 w/16 MB RAM 20-25 minutes.

Fraser

Re: startx (after upgrade) dials modem before running X

[Marcin Owsiany]

On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 10:35:15AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Greetings:
> 
> After upgrading some X-window packages last night I cannot start X without
> waiting for the modem to dial out and connect. It seems to be doing a name
> lookup since, if I get back out of X and hang up the modem and then do a
> startx immediately, there is no dial-out since the name lookup is still
> cached. A few hours later, though, the problem is back. The packages that
> updated last night were mostly fonts, but xbase-clients updated also.
> 
> I am running slink, and my X packages come fronm:
> 
> deb http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/ xfree86-334-slink/
> 
> Has anyone else seen this?  Any ideas on how to stop it?

If it is really a DNS lookup then the easiest way would be to put some more
information to your /etc/hosts. You have to think out yourself which host
could it be looking up :)

hope this helps

Marcin


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checking integers in scripts?

[Steve George]

Hi,

I am trying to write a script to check if ipforwarding is running on my access 
box but I can't work out how to check for an integer in a script.  It may be 
clearer what I am trying to do for the bit of the script:

#Check if ipfwadm is on
IPFORW = `cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward`
if [ IPFORW == 0 ]; then
echo "ipforwarding is OFF"
exit 0
fi

I have tried stuff like using 'let' and putting brackets round the expression 
but just can't get it right.  I clearly am not getting what the O'Reilly book 
is trying to tell me about numerical values.  Can anyone help please?

Thanks,

Steve

Re: netscape error (won't display images)

[Marcin Owsiany]

On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 08:04:18PM -0700, David Karlin wrote:
> Hello,
> I just debianized a friend's old '486 (16MB ram) with a fresh slink
> installation.  Everything seems to be running fine, except for netscape.
> 
> I did 'apt-get install navigator-smotif-45', and navigator comes up fine,
> displays text, background colors, etc., but does not display images
> (they show up as a grey box).  This is an old box; on-board VGA video.
> 
> When I do 'navigator' from an xterm, error messages from navigator go
> to that xterm, and when I try to load an image, it shows a bunch of
> (repeated) error messages.  Here is a snippet:
> 
> navigator-smotif_real:
> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
>   Major opcode of failed request:  72 (X_PutImage)
>   Serial number of failed request:  26570
>   Current serial number in output stream:  26584
>   Widget hierarchy of resource: unknown
> 
> Can anyone help me to interpret this?

I'd say this is because the color palette is to small for it.

just a thought, I'm probably wrong... to see if I'm right try making a small
.xsession like this:

--
#!/bin/bash

exec netscape
--

don't forget chmod +x it :)

then see if it still shows only grey boxes... if it does, then i'm almost
surely wrong in my assumption


Marcin

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Re: pr command

[Jocke]

-snip-
> So my question is how to use pr (or some other text reformating 
> program) to add margins to my text output (for printing).
> 
> The pr -o command works nicely but when I print long lines the
> text efter the linebreak will not be indented. Like this:
> 
> This is a very long line that will now be cut by the printer and 
> print on the
> next line without being indented.
> 

Sorry to answer my own mail but here is one quick solution I hacked in gawk.

gawk '{
match($0,/$/)
if (RSTART>=75){
printf("%5s%s\n"," ",substr($0,1,75))
printf("%5s%s\n"," ",substr($0,76))
}
else printf("%5s%s\n"," ",$0)
}' $1 | pr -f 


A solution without needing awk/gawk/perl etc would be nice.

Best regards
Joakim Svensson

RE: Kicstart in Debian-Linux

[Paul McHale]

If the PCs are identical, you might try drive image.  It will just copy the
hard drives ...

-Original Message-
From: Jan Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 2:47 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Kicstart in Debian-Linux


I've been looking around for different ways of installing a big number of
PC's with Debian.
I want a way to do more or less automatic.
I like the way Redhat has solved it but I want to install Debian instead of
Redhat.

Does anybody have a solution?
I want to install from a fileserver and hopefully only need to use a
boot-discette when I start each PC.

I'm not on the list so add me to the receiverlist if you answer this email.

   /Jan Smith


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Re: mail and security

[William T Wilson]

On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, tf wrote:

> but I have a better question first.  I was online a few minutes ago,
> when I noticed alot of disk activity.  I checked top and saw that user
> nobody issued a find command.  I just disconnected.  Guess I should
> change my password.

Nope, that's normal.  Don't worry about it.  That's the updatedb command
for 'locate'.

Re: manual use of e2fsck to repair dev/hdbx

[Mark Brown]

On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 04:45:43PM +, John wrote:

> At this stage root password is asked for, and a prompt '(none):~# appears.
> 
> Remounting read-write using the commands given results in a warning 
> recommending
> running e2fsck, and showing the following errors which I do not understand and
> cannot 
> deal with (Ihave a copy of the e2fsck manual page, but nothing seems 
> relevant):-

As Oliver suggested, just run fsck on the filesystem and agree with
everything it suggests.  One important thing, though: don't mount the
filesystem read/write until *after* you've done this.  If you mount it
read/write before then you run the risk of disk corruption.

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Re: tailing rotating log files

[Brad]

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On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Jim B wrote:

> Brad: thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for.
> 
> The version of tail included with "slink" does not have this functionality.
> What would be the recommended means of upgrading?
> 
> b) get potato source deb and make an slink package, which should take care
> of dpkg's concerns.

This one.

> "b" sounds like a good idea, but I'm not sure how to do it at the moment,
> never built a dpkg package before (I will figure it out).  BUT -- I can't
> find any source debs on ftp.us.debian.org.  Where should I be looking?  I
> see source tarballs and that's it... is this what I should use to build the
> package?  I always thought there was something like the "source rpm" concept
> in .deb format, where the package is all laid out and just needs to be
> re-compiled and re-packaged.

Debian sources are distributes in three parts: the original sources in
packagename.orig.tar.gz, the Debian diffs in packagename.diff.gz, and the
dsc control file in packagename.dsc. (Programs written for Debian, e.g.
dpkg, may lack the diff file). You need all three of these. They should be
in ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/Sources (or something
similar)

You'll also need the dpkg-dev package installed, as well as the -dev
packages for any libraries the package requires. If you get compiler
errors like "foobar.h not found", use the "Search the Contents of the
Latest Release" search engine or grep the Contents file to find out which
- -dev library is needed.

Once you have the three files downloaded into a directory, use the command
"dpkg-source -x packagename.dsc" to extract them. cd to the
packagename-version directory that was created, and use the command
"debian/rules binary". You either need to be root, or you need to use a
program like sudo or fakeroot. If this is successful, you'll end up with a
.deb in .. that you can now install.

The mailing list archives have many more discussions on the topic of
recompiling packages from source.


If you have a recent version of apt, you can use the apt-get source
command to download and unpack those three source files. Check the apt-get
and sources.list manpages and the mailing list archives for more details.


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pr command

[Jocke]

Just a quick one.

I have some vague memory about a mail on this list a couple of weeks
ago about printing with margins(indentation) but I can't find it
again.

So my question is how to use pr (or some other text reformating 
program) to add margins to my text output (for printing).

The pr -o command works nicely but when I print long lines the
text efter the linebreak will not be indented. Like this:

This is a very long line that will now be cut by the printer and print 
on the
next line without being indented.

So did anyone solve this ? (with a text reformater, not a2ps)


Best regards
Joakim Svensson

Re: tailing rotating log files

[Brian Servis]

*- On 19 Sep, Jim B wrote about "Re: tailing rotating log files"
> Brad: thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for.
> 
> The version of tail included with "slink" does not have this functionality.
> What would be the recommended means of upgrading?
> 
> a) obtain gnu source and compile?  This would work but would mean I would
> have to play games with dpkg (perhaps using equivs) in order to make it
> think I've upgraded the package.
> 
> b) get potato source deb and make an slink package, which should take care
> of dpkg's concerns.
> 
> c) other methods?
> 
> "b" sounds like a good idea, but I'm not sure how to do it at the moment,
> never built a dpkg package before (I will figure it out).  BUT -- I can't
> find any source debs on ftp.us.debian.org.  Where should I be looking?  I
> see source tarballs and that's it... is this what I should use to build the
> package?  I always thought there was something like the "source rpm" concept
> in .deb format, where the package is all laid out and just needs to be
> re-compiled and re-packaged.
> 

The source packages come in .tar.gz, .diff and .dsc.(no diff if it is a
native Debian program)

The easiest way is to get the apt v 0.3.11 from
http://www.debian.org/~jgg and add the following to your
/etc/apt/sources.list:

deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free

Then cd to some directory like /usr/local/src and issue the following

apt-get update
apt-get --compile source textutils

This will download and compile the textutils package from potato using
your currenlty installed libs.  You will need to have the libc6-dev
package from slink installed and maybe others if the build fails. 
There are not source Depends yet.  When you are done you will have a
new slink based textutils Debian package ready to install.

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Re: xemacs &

[Johann Spies]

On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Matthew Guenther wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 12:01:17PM +0200, Juli-Manel Merino Vidal wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I've a problem with the  key in xemacs. If I press  it does
> > the same as , so deleting the character before the cursor
> > position. It happens in the console and under X (but not with emacs,
> > that works fine). What I have to do to make work both keys ?
> > So,  deleting the current character and  to delete the 
> > character before the cursor position (this one works not).
> > 
> > Please, HELP. This is really annoying.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> 
> I found this in the XEmacs help menu, under sample configurations I think.
> Just add it to your .emacs file:
> 
> ;; If you prefer delete to actually delete forward then you want to
> ;; uncomment the next line (or use `Customize' to customize this).
> (setq delete-key-deletes-forward t)
> 
> And it should work.

It works fine under X, but not on a normal console.

Johann

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Re: tailing rotating log files

[Jim B]

Brad: thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for.

The version of tail included with "slink" does not have this functionality.
What would be the recommended means of upgrading?

a) obtain gnu source and compile?  This would work but would mean I would
have to play games with dpkg (perhaps using equivs) in order to make it
think I've upgraded the package.

b) get potato source deb and make an slink package, which should take care
of dpkg's concerns.

c) other methods?

"b" sounds like a good idea, but I'm not sure how to do it at the moment,
never built a dpkg package before (I will figure it out).  BUT -- I can't
find any source debs on ftp.us.debian.org.  Where should I be looking?  I
see source tarballs and that's it... is this what I should use to build the
package?  I always thought there was something like the "source rpm" concept
in .deb format, where the package is all laid out and just needs to be
re-compiled and re-packaged.

Thanks for all the help.  (I love this list.)  :)


- Original Message -
From: Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jim B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Debian-user 
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: tailing rotating log files


> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>
> On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Jim B wrote:
>
> > Hi, I generallly keep some of my log files open ni a terminal via
tail -f.
> > For example:
> > tail -f /var/log/messages
> >
> > However, tail does not "move" to the new "messages" (or whatever) log
file
> > when they are rotated by savelog.  So for example, I will still see the
last
> > lines from the old messages file and I will have to terminate tail and
run
> > it again to force it to move to the new messages file.
> >
> > If the file is moved and a new one put in its place, I'd like to start
> > reading the new file.  I don't see any way to do this with tail (I
checked
> > in the man/info pages).  Is there a program which will do this?
>
> At least with the tail in potato (tail (GNU textutils) 2.0), there is an
> option to do this. The default option of tail with the -f option is to
> open the file and follow that file descriptor. If you use "--follow=name"
> instead of -f, it will periodically reopen the file to check if the file
> was moved.
>
> For example, i executed the following commands while tailing the file.
>   $ echo "line 1" >> tail.test
>   $ echo "line 2" >> tail.test
>   $ mv tail.test tail.test.1; echo "line 3" >> tail.test
>
> Here's the tail output:
>   $ tail --follow=name tail.test
>   line 1
>   line 2
>   tail: `tail.test' has been replaced;  following end of new file
>   line 3
>
>
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Kicstart in Debian-Linux

[Jan Smith]

I've been looking around for different ways of installing a big number of
PC's with Debian.
I want a way to do more or less automatic.
I like the way Redhat has solved it but I want to install Debian instead of
Redhat.

Does anybody have a solution?
I want to install from a fileserver and hopefully only need to use a 
boot-discette when I start each PC.

I'm not on the list so add me to the receiverlist if you answer this email.

   /Jan Smith

Re: Installing/Debianizing WindowMaker themes

[Dave Thayer]

On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 02:45:11AM -0400, Salman Ahmed wrote:
> 
> 
> How can I either install WindowMaker theme tarballs
> or debianize them and then install via dpkg/apt ?
> 
> Running slink + some potato debs (WindowMaker-0.60).

To debianize them you can use theme-converters. The advantage to this over
untarring the themes is that you now have the themes under package control.

NB theme-converters uses perl, so if you want to use the potato version you
will have to download and upgrade all of the perl stuff to since there was a
major overhaul of the perl packages.

gamera:~$ apt-cache show theme-converters
Package: theme-converters
Version: 1.6
Priority: extra
Section: x11
Maintainer: Steve Haslam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Depends: perl5, libdigest-md5-perl
Architecture: all
Filename: dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/x11/theme-converters_1.6.deb
Size: 16362
MD5sum: 77fd5ee12c4c05f85e42d4a228925eb1
Description: Convert WindowMaker/GTK+ theme packages to .debs
 This takes .tar.gz files from, for example, wm.themes.org or
 gtk.themes.orig, and converts them into .deb packages.
 .
 The .deb packages it produces are acceptable for local use, but are
 not really policy-conformant, notably since they cannot reliably
 create a reasonable /usr/doc//copyright file.
 .
 Packages made using this package are named "wmaker--theme" for
 WindowMaker themes and "gtk--theme" for GTK themes
installed-size: 45
 
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Help with screen

[Shane Wegner]

Hi all,

I have been user the Screen program for over a year now and have encountered
a problem I am having trouble getting around.  I am using the screen-3.9.4-1
deb found in potato.

I am using a dos telnet client which is a dec vt102 terminal emulator. 
Screen handles this fine but I recently extented the vt102 terminfo/termcap
entries to incorperate the functions of the pc keyboard.  In other words, I
created a vt102-pc terminal entry to support 48 function keys, arrows, etc
etc.  Screen seems to override these settings however and my arrows don't
work.  I even tried creating a screen.vt102-pc terminal entry to no avail. 
The entry is below.

vt102-pc|dec vt102 with PC keyboard extentions, 
use=vt102, kbs=^H, 
kcub1=\E[D, kcud1=\E[B, kcuf1=\E[C, kcuu1=\E[A, kdch1=\177, 
kend=\E[4~, kf1=\E[11~, kf10=\E[21~, kf11=\E[23~, 
kf12=\E[24~, kf13=\E[11;2~, kf14=\E[12;2~, kf15=\E[13;2~, 
kf16=\E[14;2~, kf17=\E[15;2~, kf18=\E[17;2~, 
kf19=\E[18;2~, kf2=\E[12~, kf20=\E[19;2~, kf21=\E[20;2~, 
kf22=\E[21;2~, kf23=\E[23;2~, kf24=\E[24;2~, kf25=\E[23~, 
kf26=\E[24~, kf27=\E[25~, kf28=\E[26~, kf29=\E[28~, 
kf3=\E[13~, kf30=\E[29~, kf31=\E[31~, kf32=\E[32~, 
kf33=\E[33~, kf34=\E[34~, kf35=\E[35~, kf36=\E[36~, 
kf37=\E[23;2~, kf38=\E[24;2~, kf39=\E[25;2~, kf4=\E[14~, 
kf40=\E[26;2~, kf41=\E[28;2~, kf42=\E[29;2~, 
kf43=\E[31;2~, kf44=\E[32;2~, kf45=\E[33;2~, 
kf46=\E[34;2~, kf47=\E[35;2~, kf48=\E[36;2~, kf5=\E[15~, 
kf6=\E[17~, kf7=\E[18~, kf8=\E[19~, kf9=\E[20~, 
khome=\E[H, kich1=\E[2~, knp=\E[6~, kpp=\E[5~,

When I press the home key outside of screen, it receives \e[H, when inside
screen, it receives \e[1~ which happens to be the vt100 home key.  Is there
any way to turn off this translation?  To force screen to use whatever
terminal I am in?

Thanks in advance,
Shane

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Re: 17.2 gb drive

[Jean-Yves BARBIER]

On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 09:35:24AM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
> .

> I know that many recommend using multiple partitions.  But if you have
> no idea about how large /usr, /home, need to be it's hard to guess how
> many partitions and how large each should be. 

You hit the spot!
My manner is quite weird: I installed one partition, then worked a bit
with it; then I made a ration of each future separe partition (plus for
/home (mails!)), anf then I reinstalled on multiple partitions.

> Also I think that the
> idea of many partitons made sense when disks were smaller.

No, definitely: if you have criticals information files, you divide
the loosing risk with multiple partitions.

> >...

> So where does fdisk get it's idea of disk size and layout?

Did you tryied to setup the bios as USER with the parms that
fdisk gave you?
Did you put 'linear' in /etc/lilo.conf?

Also, I have W$ on /dev/hda (linux is on /dev/hdc), W$ use to
rewrite my bios HDs parms (!!?), so I was oblige to leave them
in AUTO HD setup.

> Again the disk never left the computer.  Also it does boot just fine
> now, I'm worried that my partition layout id flawed and will eventually
> fail. 

I remember that on first installation I made partitions with the W$ fdisk,
as it is a crap, I had the same type of errors (last sector further than 
end of partition).

Hope it can help you.

JY

Re: manual use of e2fsck to repair dev/hdbx

[Oliver Elphick]

John wrote:
  >Am a newbie thinking things were going quite well, when my psu cut out whils
  >t
  >booting
  >(this I do from a floppy). After changing the psu, booting gets only to dev/
  >hdbx
  >(which
  >contains the root filesystem), and presents error messages saying 'contains
  >filesystem
  >with errors', 'unattached inode 17870', 'unexpected inconsistency - run fsck
  >manually
...
  >Remounting read-write using the commands given results in a warning recommen
  >ding
  >running e2fsck, and showing the following errors which I do not understand a
  >nd
  >cannot 
  >deal with (Ihave a copy of the e2fsck manual page, but nothing seems relevan
  >t):-
 
My normal approach to this is to run fsck with the -y option, to let it
answer yes to all questions; alternatively, you can answer its questions
one at a time yourself: just say yes every time, because the alternative 
is correcting the disk with a binary editor, which is almost certainly
not possible for you.  I know I wouldn't want to try! 

After this process, you may find some disconnected files in the partition's
/lost+found directory.  You will have to examine these to try and work
out where they came from.

If you end up with any files whose permissions are insane and which cannot
be deleted, you will have to give up and recreate the partition.

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  receive it."   Malachi 3:10 

Re: Installing/Debianizing WindowMaker themes

[Luis M. Garcia]

On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 02:42:55AM -0600, Adrian Thompson wrote:
> Hello,  Windowmaker makes a dir in your home dir called 
> GNUstep/windowmaker/library.
> Under this dir is the dir "Themes"
> "gunzip theme.tar.gz | -xvf"IN the theme dir.  Your theme will be added.
> 
> -=Adrian=-
> 
> Salman Ahmed wrote:
> 
> > How can I either install WindowMaker theme tarballs
> > or debianize them and then install via dpkg/apt ?
> >

I install, as another option, the themes in 
/usr/local/share/WindowMaker/Themes

The themes are then accessible to all users and using a directory
under /usr/local don't conflict with the package system.

HTH
Luis

Re: tailing rotating log files

[Brad]

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On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Jim B wrote:

> Hi, I generallly keep some of my log files open ni a terminal via tail -f.
> For example:
> tail -f /var/log/messages
> 
> However, tail does not "move" to the new "messages" (or whatever) log file
> when they are rotated by savelog.  So for example, I will still see the last
> lines from the old messages file and I will have to terminate tail and run
> it again to force it to move to the new messages file.
> 
> If the file is moved and a new one put in its place, I'd like to start
> reading the new file.  I don't see any way to do this with tail (I checked
> in the man/info pages).  Is there a program which will do this?

At least with the tail in potato (tail (GNU textutils) 2.0), there is an
option to do this. The default option of tail with the -f option is to
open the file and follow that file descriptor. If you use "--follow=name"
instead of -f, it will periodically reopen the file to check if the file
was moved.

For example, i executed the following commands while tailing the file.
  $ echo "line 1" >> tail.test 
  $ echo "line 2" >> tail.test 
  $ mv tail.test tail.test.1; echo "line 3" >> tail.test

Here's the tail output:
  $ tail --follow=name tail.test
  line 1
  line 2
  tail: `tail.test' has been replaced;  following end of new file
  line 3



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Re: mail and security

[Mark Brown]

On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 04:36:30PM -, Pollywog wrote:

> > May be wrong, but it was probably cron running your locate database
> > update.

> Isn't that locate database updated with 'updatedb' and not with 'find'?
> I do think it was *something* in cron.daily or other cron.

updatedb is a shell script which calls find as part of its work.

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Re: Newbie needs help on X win!!!

[Tam Ma]

hi,

more on X window info.

I am install from cdrom.

Thanx,
Tam

On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, John Foster wrote:

> Tam Ma wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I just install "slink" and all of the packages that I need. Now I want
> > installl X window but I don't know which packages to install. Can you guys
> > give me a list of packages I should Install to get X window working. I
> > don't want anything fancy yet, right now I just want ordinary X window and
> > maybe with file manager like Gnome or something.
> >
> > Thanx so much.
> >
> > Tam Ma
> ---
> How are you doing the installation? Floppy disks, CDRom, FTP/HTTP from
> the internet?
> --
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>

Re: IPX woes-want old module and new kernel-possible?

[Gregory T. Norris]

Manually applying the rejects for the oltr driver is a fairly trivial
operation.  If you'd like, I can email you a cleaned-up version of the
patch which applies to 2.2.12.

On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 08:34:02PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Also, I have a dilemma.  My token-ring card (Olicom) will compile into the
> 2.2.9 kernel, but the patch fails on higher versions.  Their suggestion to
> patch 2.2.9 for olicom, then use the kernel patches to raise 2.2.9 up higher 
> also failed.  So I thought about this:
> 
>   How about compiling the driver as a module, then recompiling the
> kernel at the 2.2.12(13?) level with solely token ring support built in.
> Then use it with the module.  Or is this totally brainless?  (Mind you that
> I plead ignorance based on being a chemist, not a comp. scientist. ;)

Re: mail and security

[Martin Fluch]

On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Pollywog wrote:

> Isn't that locate database updated with 'updatedb' and not with 'find'?
> I do think it was *something* in cron.daily or other cron.

And updatedb is a script calling find... :-)

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tailing rotating log files

[Jim B]

Hi, I generallly keep some of my log files open ni a terminal via tail -f.
For example:
tail -f /var/log/messages

However, tail does not "move" to the new "messages" (or whatever) log file
when they are rotated by savelog.  So for example, I will still see the last
lines from the old messages file and I will have to terminate tail and run
it again to force it to move to the new messages file.

If the file is moved and a new one put in its place, I'd like to start
reading the new file.  I don't see any way to do this with tail (I checked
in the man/info pages).  Is there a program which will do this?

Actually come to think of it!  Maybe I could just use:
watch tail -n 20 /var/log/messages

:)  Just thought of it.  That should work I think, but I'm still curious as
to how else one might do it.

TIA.

Re: mail and security

[Pollywog]

On 19-Sep-99 dyer wrote:
> tf wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I'm reading with intrest several threads, and have a bunch of questions
>> about mailing (like, what exactly is exim or sendmail actually doing...)
>>
>> but I have a better question first.  I was online a few minutes ago,
>> when I noticed alot of disk activity.  I checked top and saw that user
>> nobody issued a find command.  I just disconnected.  Guess I should
>> change my password.
>>
> 
> May be wrong, but it was probably cron running your locate database
> update.

Isn't that locate database updated with 'updatedb' and not with 'find'?
I do think it was *something* in cron.daily or other cron.

--
Andrew

Re: 17.2 gb drive

[Kenneth Scharf]

>Don't you partitioned your HD on a computer, and move >it to another?
>(or activated LBA on one and not on the other?)

No, I partitioned using the Stormix linux installer, then poped the
debian CD into the SAME computer and re-booted.  I just tried different
linux distro's till I found one that would appear to see the whole disk
an partition it.


>Huuu? Why such a big '/'? (use fractionnal >installation: / +
>/usr + /home .; in case of trouble, you'll only >loose a few
>information)
>You can 'lilo-jump' from partition to partition: I had >the same PB, 
>so I put a lilo in the MBR, with a jump to /, then >another in /,
>jumping to extended partition (diff. <= 1024), then >another to other
>linux partition.. And it worked.

I know that many recommend using multiple partitions.  But if you have
no idea about how large /usr, /home, need to be it's hard to guess how
many partitions and how large each should be.  Also I think that the
idea of many partitons made sense when disks were smaller.


>Linux used bios *only* at boot time, then it use its >own setup; so if
>bios and linux settings do not agree at boot, there >might be some
>problems.
>Try: 
>0)-  Read *attentively* /usr/doc/lilo contents, it can >help
>1)-  Add a line in /etc/lilo.conf: linear (after root >& boot
>declarations)
> Even if its not mandatory, it can't hurt.
>2)-  Bios manual setup, according to what fdisk says >(in my [short] 
> experience, fdisk is *always* right),$
>3)-  If (2) don't work, then add a new line in lilo:
> append="hd=cyls,heads,sctrs", where CHS are the >numbers that
bios
 >says.

So where does fdisk get it's idea of disk size and layout?
 
>Anyway, if you partitioned you're HD on a computer, >and installed it
on
>another, you could have troubled: I made the mystake >from a brand new
>PII-400 to an old 486-PCI-ISA: The 486 bios was unable >to handle a
>number
>of heads > 16. So I turned the both of them in LBA >mode and it
worked, 
>but I was obliged to add 'linear' in /etc/lilo.conf >because without
>that
>line, the HD refused to boot directly (but was Ok with >a diskette
>boot).

Again the disk never left the computer.  Also it does boot just fine
now, I'm worried that my partition layout id flawed and will eventually
fail. 


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startx (after upgrade) dials modem before running X

[markzimm]

Greetings:

After upgrading some X-window packages last night I cannot start X without
waiting for the modem to dial out and connect. It seems to be doing a name
lookup since, if I get back out of X and hang up the modem and then do a
startx immediately, there is no dial-out since the name lookup is still
cached. A few hours later, though, the problem is back. The packages that
updated last night were mostly fonts, but xbase-clients updated also.

I am running slink, and my X packages come fronm:

deb http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/ xfree86-334-slink/

Has anyone else seen this?  Any ideas on how to stop it?

-- Mark Zimmerman

Re: Netscape

[Bob Nielsen]

On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 11:57:30PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 06:25:17AM +, Art Lemasters wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 12:31:08AM -0500, Brad wrote:
> > [...]
> > > For the curious, i'm using the navigator from the navigator-smotif-461
> > > package (i don't need no steenkin' mail and news and wysinwyg html
> > > editor in my web browser!). wmaker from the wmaker package, xserver-svga.
> > > 
> > > Anyone else have any success stories? Or failure stories?
> > 
> > Yeah, I'm running static 461 in potato and it's segfaulting on startup.
> > Should I be running xlib6g-static with it, although no depends showed in
> > apt dselect?
> 
>   I just did an apt-get dselect-upgrade, and it seemed to fix whatever
>   was causing Netscape and Acrobat to segfault.

It was an update to ldso which caused the problem with Friday's update
and was fixed in Saturday's update.

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Re: mail and security

[Levi]

On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, tf wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> I'm reading with intrest several threads, and have a bunch of questions
> about mailing (like, what exactly is exim or sendmail actually doing...)
> 
> but I have a better question first.  I was online a few minutes ago,
> when I noticed alot of disk activity.  I checked top and saw that user
> nobody issued a find command.  I just disconnected.  Guess I should
> change my password.

Actually, it was proably a cron job running updatedb(1), wich is the
command used to update the locate(1) database. If you havn't discovered
locate(1) yet, cheak it out, it's a really useful command.

-Levi

P.S. Most holes in un*x (linux included) aren't password related.

Re: Newbie needs help on X win!!!

[John Foster]

Tam Ma wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> I just install "slink" and all of the packages that I need. Now I want
> installl X window but I don't know which packages to install. Can you guys
> give me a list of packages I should Install to get X window working. I
> don't want anything fancy yet, right now I just want ordinary X window and
> maybe with file manager like Gnome or something.
> 
> Thanx so much.
> 
> Tam Ma
---
How are you doing the installation? Floppy disks, CDRom, FTP/HTTP from
the internet?
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Re: labels

[John Foster]

 On 18 Sep 1999, eric k. wolven wrote:
> > Greetings:
> >
> > I am running potato with an hpdeskjet 540c installed as my printer.
> >
> > I would like  to find out how to print labels under Debian linux.
> >
> > I am a hobbyist bee-keeper and give labeled honey  jars to friends.
> > Last year I printed my labels under a windows program but want to use
> > debian to print this year.  (I also don't have windows installed
> > anymore. :>)
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Re: Colors configuration in mutt. How to do it?

[Wojciech Zabolotny]

On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 09:46:42PM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote:
> Wojciech Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi All!
> > 
> > A few months ago I used PINE and I love'd it because of the wonderfull
> > black-on-white layout which it used on my xterm (though still white-on-black
> > on my console).
> > Because of some licence inconveniences I've decided to switch to mutt, which
> > is quite good (although lacks some features, eg. forwarding of the message
> 
>   Lacks some features?? I don't think so. What kind of *features*
>   are you expecting??
> 
> > with all headers - very usefull for reporting of mail abuses), but always
> 
>   In that case, you will want this:
> 
> ### forward_weed
> ### Type: boolean
> ### Default: set 
> ### When set, message headers will be weeded when forwarding a decoded 
> version of
> ### the message. 
> unset forward_weed

Thanks, I've missed it. I'll need to configure a keyboard shortcut for seting
and unseting of forward_weed.

> 
> > uses black background both on console, and on the xterm.
> > The white-on-black characters are almost illegible on most the monitors I 
> > use 
> > (some of them are really good), so I have to switch to the lower 
> > resolution, 
> > or use xterm with a REALLY-BIG-FONT
> 
>   Which version of mutt are you using? Have your tried the
>   following?? 

Mutt 0.95.3i (1999-02-12)
 
>export TERM=xterm-color; mutt

The only result of setting TERM to xterm-color is that BACKSPACE key stopped to
work, and I have no key to rewind the message... 

>   You can also customise color highlighting in just about anyways
>   you want. Some of mine looks like this:
> 
> # colors
> color indicator black cyan
> color statusbrightgreen blue
> color hdrdefault cyan black
> color headerbrightgreen black ^From:
> color headerbrightcyan black ^To:
> color headerbrightcyan black ^Reply-To:
> color headerbrightcyan black ^Cc:
> color headerbrightblue black ^Subject:
> color body  brightred black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> color body  brightblue black (http|ftp)://[\-\.\,/%~_:?\#a-zA-Z0-9]+
> color quotedgreen black
> color attachment brightyellow black
> color signature cyan black
> color tree  red black
> color tilde blue black
> color markers   brightred black
> 

Yes, it works, but requires a lot of typing... additionally I'll need
two different configuration files - one for xterm, and another one for
console... Maybe I'll need to write a wrapper, something like this:
if [ $DISPLAY ]; then
 mutt -F ~/.muttrcx
else
 mutt
fi
> Hope this helps.
Yes, thanks a lot
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Re: KDE

[Jean-Yves BARBIER]

On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 03:29:51PM +0200, Jean-Yves BARBIER wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm seeking for KDE (debianized version) stable version to
> install. Do you know an URL from where I could apt-get it??
> 
> thanks in advance,


Thanks to all of you, ans my apologies for not consulted the
archives before asking (I'm a newbie, so the relex is there)

JY

manual use of e2fsck to repair dev/hdbx

[John]

Am a newbie thinking things were going quite well, when my psu cut out whilst
booting
(this I do from a floppy). After changing the psu, booting gets only to dev/hdbx
(which
contains the root filesystem), and presents error messages saying 'contains
filesystem
with errors', 'unattached inode 17870', 'unexpected inconsistency - run fsck
manually
(without -a or -p options)', 'the root filesystem is mounted read-only. To
remount it read-
write, do '.

At this stage root password is asked for, and a prompt '(none):~# appears.

Remounting read-write using the commands given results in a warning recommending
running e2fsck, and showing the following errors which I do not understand and
cannot 
deal with (Ihave a copy of the e2fsck manual page, but nothing seems relevant):-

a. EXT2-fs (device ide0(3,66); ext2_check_blocks_bitmap: wrong free blocks count
for group 12, stored = 129, counted =124.
b. A similar message except 'in super block, stored =30416, counted =30411'.
c. --- ext2_check_inodes_bitmap: wrong free inodes count in group 4, stored
=2134,
counted =2133.
d. A similar message to c. except 'count in super block, stored =63478, counted
=63477. 
(I have precised the error messages for compactness). 

Although I had most things configured, I could fairly easily re-install the
system form
scratch. This, however, means I would still have no experience of what to do
should
a similar event occur later when I have important stuff on the system.

I have a second machine which is being used for this posting and with which I've
searched unsuccessfully the newsgroups archives and other sources. Can anyone 
render assistance (suitable for a keen but computer-illiterate newbie) and also
perhaps 
suggest where I can get more info on the use of e2fsck and the filesystems
generally. 
I shall appreciate any help.
John.

Re: Netscape

[Brad]

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> On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 06:25:17AM +, Art Lemasters wrote:
> > 
> > Yeah, I'm running static 461 in potato and it's segfaulting on startup.
> > Should I be running xlib6g-static with it, although no depends showed in
> > apt dselect?
> 
>   I just did an apt-get dselect-upgrade, and it seemed to fix whatever
>   was causing Netscape and Acrobat to segfault.

It was a bug in the ldso package, interfering with the loading of the
libc5-compat libraries. You can check the changelog and bug reports #45371
and #45396 if you're curious.


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Re: KDE

[Heikki Vatiainen]

dyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> deb http://kde.tdyc.com slink kde
> 
> This question has been asked many, many times. Please check the archives 
> before
> posting.

There is also a new mirror site, which probably is not yet in the 
list archives. Jean-Yves, you might want to try

deb http://sunsite.tut.fi/ftp/Mirror/debian/ruins.tdyc.com/pub slink kde

to see if it is faster for you than kde.tdyc.com. You might also 
want to try

deb http://sunsite.tut.fi/ftp/Mirror/debian/ruins.tdyc.com/pub slink kde 
contrib rkrusty

for some more packages. See http://kde.tdyc.com/Debian/ for more 
info about what is in contrib and rkrusty.

// Heikki
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[pankubhai@yahoo.com: debian in india]

[Hanno Wagner]

Could please someone help this guy?
Ciao, Hanno
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hii,
 
I am pankaj and I am from india I've been using red hat and mandrek for
a while I have also used slackware 
for a year.
I was very intrested in a taste of linux which is a bit challenging and
much more configurable and so I 
tried to look for debian but for my shocking surprise
there is no debian distribution avaliable in india
I tried a lot before writing.
could you please let me know any person who can sell or give me the
cd's to copy.as its not fesible for me to download the distribution.
  thanks 
pankaj
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more mail and security..

[tf]

Thanks a lot (Michael)...

That makes sense.  I tend to get a bit paranoid (as if I was blind and fearful 
of tripping).  

I've given myself alot of stuff to practice.  Since I don't really understand 
mail, I just tried to work around it--now I've got 
lots of different mail packages installed that I want to get rid of.  Actually, 
mutt-exim-fetchmail would be fine, but I don't 
quite understand it.

with mail clients in general, you must specify a pop and smtp server. now, with 
exim, (or any mta?) I am the smtp server, 
right?  I wrote a test message with mutt, and it arrived, but identified me as 
only  "root".  so do I have to give myself an 
alias, or what?  

What's keeping me from having a header that reads, [EMAIL PROTECTED], as 
opposed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've seen the "percent hack" at work in someone elses header..is that what I 
need to use?

Thanks for your patience...I'm an idiot!


-tf

Re: mail and security

[Phil Brutsche]

On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, tf wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> I'm reading with intrest several threads, and have a bunch of questions
> about mailing (like, what exactly is exim or sendmail actually doing...)

When you tell your email program to send a message, it uses the protocol
SMTP to tell a program running on the server to handle delivery.  The
delivery programs are called MTAs - mail transfer agents.  exim and
sendmail are just two examples of MTAs.

> 
> but I have a better question first.  I was online a few minutes ago,
> when I noticed alot of disk activity.  I checked top and saw that user
> nobody issued a find command.  I just disconnected.  Guess I should
> change my password.
That's some scripts run daily for system maintenance.  No need to worry.

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Re: mail and security

[Jim Foltz]

On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 06:48:05AM +0300, tf wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> I'm reading with intrest several threads, and have a bunch of questions
> about mailing (like, what exactly is exim or sendmail actually doing...)
> 
> but I have a better question first.  I was online a few minutes ago,
> when I noticed alot of disk activity.  I checked top and saw that user
> nobody issued a find command.  I just disconnected.  Guess I should
> change my password.

No, find was (most likely) run ron the /etc/cron.daily dir as part of
Debian's daily maintenance. Actually, the locate program uses find to
build a database of files and directories. The locate command uses this
database to quickly locate files, i.e. if you issue the command 'locate
texmf' it will list all matching entries.

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Re: mail and security

[dyer]

tf wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I'm reading with intrest several threads, and have a bunch of questions
> about mailing (like, what exactly is exim or sendmail actually doing...)
>
> but I have a better question first.  I was online a few minutes ago,
> when I noticed alot of disk activity.  I checked top and saw that user
> nobody issued a find command.  I just disconnected.  Guess I should
> change my password.
>

May be wrong, but it was probably cron running your locate database update.

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Re: KDE

[dyer]

Jean-Yves BARBIER wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm seeking for KDE (debianized version) stable version to
> install. Do you know an URL from where I could apt-get it??

deb http://kde.tdyc.com slink kde

This question has been asked many, many times. Please check the archives before
posting.
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/
There is a search at the bottom of the page.

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Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

[Robert Vollmert]

On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 12:31:27AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 06:36:47PM +0200, Robert Vollmert wrote:
> > With /bin/sh -> /bin/ash, I get the following error:
> > 
> > guess.datestyle: 25: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")
> > 
> > It works fine with bash. It seems the opening brace on 
> > 
> > case "$x" in ( SystemV | posix | right )
> >  ^
> > is causing this.
> 
> Wasn't this fixed in potato ash? I seem to remember seeing a bug report
> about this once...

You're right. It was fixed in 0.3.5-4, while I was still running
0.3.5-3. It works as is, now.

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mail and security

[tf]

Hey all,

I'm reading with intrest several threads, and have a bunch of questions
about mailing (like, what exactly is exim or sendmail actually doing...)

but I have a better question first.  I was online a few minutes ago,
when I noticed alot of disk activity.  I checked top and saw that user
nobody issued a find command.  I just disconnected.  Guess I should
change my password.


-- 


-t

Re: for what it's worth (re: To the Debian Project...)

[Mark Brown]

On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 02:40:05AM -0700, John Miskinis wrote:

> I read great things about debian, and chose it, not knowing what
> to expect.  Perhaps the platform I am using (Thinkpad 560) is
> making things overly complex, and my recent frustrations are to
> be expected, and are warranted.

Thinkpads seem to be quite nasty for this - they're very nice boxes, 
but not quite standard enough to work without hassle.  You might want to
take a look at the debian-laptop archives for more information and
possibly ask for assistance there.

With bog standard desktop hardware it's very much simpler (unless you
have a very new graphics card, which none of my machines do) - pretty 
much everything on my boxes apart from sound worked as soon as the 
install was done.

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Re: telnetd-ssl

[peter karlsson]

The problem has been found. The telnet daemon was set in inetd.conf to be
started as user telnetd, which was something that telnetd-ssl didn't grok.
After resetting it to root, it works just fine.

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Re: netscape: booksmarks have changed

[Remco van 't Veer]

Oeps, had a couple of crashed netscape's running..


On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 12:03, Brian Servis wrote:

> *- On 18 Sep, Remco van 't Veer wrote about "netscape: booksmarks have 
> changed"
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Some weirdness..  Today I upgraded to navigator-46 (from netgod).
> > Netscape reports, every 2 minutes or so, that the bookmarks are
> > changed and are being reloaded.  I've seen this before (after my
> > previous upgrade?), ignored it and it went away..  but curiosity
> > remains..  Does anybody know what is causing this?
> > 
> 
> I have seen this when netscape crashes and I start a new one.  What
> happens is that the gui has died but there still remains a netscape
> engine running in the background.  Check 'ps axf' for a running
> netscape/communicator that is not associated with your currently
> running one and kill it.
> 
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Help with E and/or .xsession

[Greg & Heather Vence]

I've got X configured now it's complaining that it can't find an .xsession
file.  I thought that installing Enlightenment would be enough.  Apparently
not.  Help?

TIA -- Greg.

KDE

[Jean-Yves BARBIER]

Hi all,

I'm seeking for KDE (debianized version) stable version to
install. Do you know an URL from where I could apt-get it??

thanks in advance,

JY

Re: for what it's worth (re: To the Debian Project...)

[Martin Fluch]

On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, John Miskinis wrote:

> I have only recently begun to "play" with linux, and have no
> knowledge of how other distributions are setup.  I am also
> not familiar with the history or overall goals of debian.
> 
> I read great things about debian, and chose it, not knowing what
> to expect.  Perhaps the platform I am using (Thinkpad 560) is
> making things overly complex, and my recent frustrations are to
> be expected, and are warranted.
> 
> If anybody is touting this as an "out of the box solution", then
> they must have installed it on a "more standard" PC or other platform,
> and thus achieved success without "hassles".

Laptops are anything but standard ... but the problem can be reduced to 

  1) compiling the kernel with the right options
  2) tweak the files in /etc/modutils and run update-modules to get 
 for example sound modules loaded automaticaly
  3) re-compiling the pcmcia-cs and configuring /etc/pcmcia/config.opts
  4) finding the right XServer and settings, best search the WWW.

OK, and therefore you will need some knowlege, but you will find it on the
net. And it is independent of which distro you use.

> I thought it would be much easier to get linux up and running taking
> advantage of the hardware in my machine.  I have been able to get
> it running in the last few weeks, with X Windows, and running quite
> well.  As my CDROM (PCMCIA-based) could not be seen, it took a LOT
> of "mucking around" and I even trashed my system many times.

This might be tricky...

> Over the last few days I have taken on the challenge of trying to
> get APM, SOUND, and SCSI support, with nothing but troubles and
> confusion.  As much as I hate to admit this, Windows 95 installed
> very easily.  If nothing else, MS has done great in this area.

I guess, you have drivers for apm, sound and scsi, which are comming from
IBM and not M$. On my TP 770 I had special graphics driver form IBM,
spezial trackpoint driver from IBM, special sound driver from IBM, special
IDE driver form IBM...

> I think a program that could run under Win95/98 or even DOS, that
> would gather information about the hardware in a machine, and
> generate a file that linux could take advantage of during installation
> would be of great value.  Perhaps one exists, but I am not aware.
>
> I am still determined to get debian linux running on this machine,
> and I realize a certain amount of learning and patience is required.
> I will only have the luxury of being a "linux newbie" for a short
> time, and while I have this perspective I am passing on my feelings.
> I have been using UNIX variants for many years, but have never needed
> to aquire the "sysadmin" skills until now.

In your case (laptop) you will need some sysadmin skills, but you will get
them...

And when once your system is running fine, you will love it, especially
debian (my opinion).

And then an related story: A friend of mine once tried to set up a simple
NE2000 compatible PCMCIA ethernet card up under WIN95. He had the driver
disk, handbook ... one, two firends of him and I tried for quite a time to
get the beast running, with no luck (and we all had not so bad sysadmin
skills) ... and then it suddenly worked (after many hours), but I realy
don't know why ... the problem under M$ in my opinion is, that if
something won't work out of the box, the problem, why it won't work can be
hiden somwhere under the GUI :-)

I have right now problems setting up my IBM Turbo 16/4 Tokenring card, but
I can locate (but not solve) the problem: I know, that the driver is
broken under the 2.2 Kernel and I have to wait, till the problem is
reported fixed. What I like under Linux, espeical Debian, is, that
problems can be locatet. You can say, there it is ... which is a step
further to 'I don't know why it is not working?'.

Keep on learning your system/linux and when you get more knowledge, you
won't be dissapointed ... and don't hesitate to ask :-)

Martin

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Re: Colors configuration in mutt. How to do it?

[Shao Zhang]

Wojciech Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi All!
> 
> A few months ago I used PINE and I love'd it because of the wonderfull
> black-on-white layout which it used on my xterm (though still white-on-black
> on my console).
> Because of some licence inconveniences I've decided to switch to mutt, which
> is quite good (although lacks some features, eg. forwarding of the message

Lacks some features?? I don't think so. What kind of *features*
are you expecting??

> with all headers - very usefull for reporting of mail abuses), but always

In that case, you will want this:

### forward_weed
### Type: boolean
### Default: set 
### When set, message headers will be weeded when forwarding a decoded version 
of
### the message. 
unset forward_weed

> uses black background both on console, and on the xterm.
> The white-on-black characters are almost illegible on most the monitors I use 
> (some of them are really good), so I have to switch to the lower resolution, 
> or use xterm with a REALLY-BIG-FONT

Which version of mutt are you using? Have your tried the
following?? 

 export TERM=xterm-color; mutt

You can also customise color highlighting in just about anyways
you want. Some of mine looks like this:

# colors
color indicator black cyan
color statusbrightgreen blue
color hdrdefault cyan black
color headerbrightgreen black ^From:
color headerbrightcyan black ^To:
color headerbrightcyan black ^Reply-To:
color headerbrightcyan black ^Cc:
color headerbrightblue black ^Subject:
color body  brightred black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
color body  brightblue black (http|ftp)://[\-\.\,/%~_:?\#a-zA-Z0-9]+
color quotedgreen black
color attachment brightyellow black
color signature cyan black
color tree  red black
color tilde blue black
color markers   brightred black


Hope this helps.

Shao.

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Colors configuration in mutt. How to do it?

[Wojciech Zabolotny]

Hi All!

A few months ago I used PINE and I love'd it because of the wonderfull
black-on-white layout which it used on my xterm (though still white-on-black
on my console).
Because of some licence inconveniences I've decided to switch to mutt, which
is quite good (although lacks some features, eg. forwarding of the message
with all headers - very usefull for reporting of mail abuses), but always
uses black background both on console, and on the xterm.
The white-on-black characters are almost illegible on most the monitors I use 
(some of them are really good), so I have to switch to the lower resolution, 
or use xterm with a REALLY-BIG-FONT.
I tried to run mutt with:
export COLORFGBG="black;white"; mutt
but it helped only on the index screen. Most parts of the displayed message had
still black background, which made them even more undecipherable because of the
neighbouring white-backgrounded sections.
Is there any method to help this problem? Are there any configuration options
or prepackaged configurations I could use to get the nice looking
dark-on-bright layout of mutt on the xterm?
I could not find any usefull info in the mutt's doc (may be I haven't read it
thoroughly enough).
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Re: Installing/Debianizing WindowMaker themes

[Seth R Arnold]

On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 02:42:55AM -0600, Adrian Thompson wrote:
> Hello,  Windowmaker makes a dir in your home dir called 
> GNUstep/windowmaker/library.
> Under this dir is the dir "Themes"
> "gunzip theme.tar.gz | -xvf"IN the theme dir.  Your theme will be added.

I am sure adrian meant something more like:
gunzip theme.tar.gz | tar xvf -

but, the tar that comes with most half-way recent linux distributions,
debian included, can do this instead:
tar zxvf theme.tar.gz

:)

> -=Adrian=-
> 
> Salman Ahmed wrote:
> 
> > How can I either install WindowMaker theme tarballs
> > or debianize them and then install via dpkg/apt ?
> >
> > Running slink + some potato debs (WindowMaker-0.60).
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
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> > ssahmed AT interlog DOT com
> >
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Re: 17.2 gb drive

[Jean-Yves BARBIER]

On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 07:30:50PM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
> I've asked this before, but I'm still confused.  I have a 17.2gb maxtor
> which the bios reports as 31930 cyl, 16 h, and 63 s.  Fdisk (ver 2.9g
^
> or whatever came with slink) reports 1024 c, 255 h, 63 s (which adds up
> to 8.4gb).  

So Linux does not agree with the bios HD definition

> I was able to partition the drive using the installer from
> stormix (which was probably a tcl or perl script front end to sfdisk). 
> Now when I run fdisk (after having installed debian) I get the message
> that partitions overlap.  

Don't you partitioned your HD on a computer, and move it to another?
(or activated LBA on one and not on the other?)

> Fdisk also reports that the final cy is about 2100 (I forget the exact
> number) which implies that some translation is happening.  My concern
> is that the "/" partition starts below cy 1024 and ends above 1024. 
> Lilo current works fine, but may break in the future if I add a new
> kernel and the image gets written above logical cyl 1024.

Huuu? Why such a big '/'? (use fractionnal installation: / +
/usr + /home .; in case of trouble, you'll only loose a few
information)
You can 'lilo-jump' from partition to partition: I had the same PB, 
so I put a lilo in the MBR, with a jump to /, then another in /,
jumping to extended partition (diff. <= 1024), then another to other
linux partition.. And it worked.

> The large disk how to implies that this cy, head, sec mapping is really
> history with large disks as what is now supplied is just a logical
> block number.  fdisk, cfdisk and sfdisk still seem to rely on c,h,s
> numbers however.
> 
> I don't know if my bios set up is giving me the real physical layout of
> the disk or a translation.  

Linux used bios *only* at boot time, then it use its own setup; so if
bios and linux settings do not agree at boot, there might be some problems.
Try: 
0)-  Read *attentively* /usr/doc/lilo contents, it can help
1)-  Add a line in /etc/lilo.conf: linear (after root & boot declarations)
 Even if its not mandatory, it can't hurt.
2)-  Bios manual setup, according to what fdisk says (in my [short] 
 experience, fdisk is *always* right),$
3)-  If (2) don't work, then add a new line in lilo:
 append="hd=cyls,heads,sctrs", where CHS are the numbers that bios
 says.
 
Anyway, if you partitioned you're HD on a computer, and installed it on
another, you could have troubled: I made the mystake from a brand new
PII-400 to an old 486-PCI-ISA: The 486 bios was unable to handle a number
of heads > 16. So I turned the both of them in LBA mode and it worked, 
but I was obliged to add 'linear' in /etc/lilo.conf because without that
line, the HD refused to boot directly (but was Ok with a diskette boot).
 
> SO... do I need a newer version of fdisk (is there a slink version of
> what is in potato?).  How do I correctly partition such a large IDE

No

> disk.  I feel that I need to have a small "/boot" partition at the
> begining of the disk to hold the kernel boot image, but if lilo can use
> the extended LBA mode this might not be necessary.  Does anyone
> understand what is really going on?

See above. You're right: a small '/'!

BTW: I also had a problem, while partitionning with cfdisk on a >8.4GB HD,
so I think its better to do al the job with fdisk only.

JY

Error with Postgres PL/pgsql

[Eric G . Miller]

  Anyone using Postgres' PL language with success? Postgres apparently
  is having problems finding the pgplsql.so library.  I can't figure out
  why. Is a bug report in order? I made sure the language was
  "installed" for the database and checked the library path setting.

  Here's the output of postgres.log from a short session:

%BEGIN LOG%
/usr/lib/postgresql/bin/postmaster child[6494]: starting with
(/usr/lib/postgres
ql/bin/postgres -d3 -E -v131072 -p address_book )
FindExec: found "/usr/lib/postgresql/bin/postgres" using argv[0]
debug info:
User = felix
RemoteHost   = localhost
RemotePort   = 0
DatabaseName = address_book
Verbose  = 3
Noversion= f
timings  = f
dates= Normal
bufsize  = 64
sortmem  = 512
query echo   = t
InitPostgres
StartTransactionCommand
query: select version();
ProcessQuery
CommitTransactionCommand
StartTransactionCommand
query: insert into person_address values (1,1);
ProcessQuery
ERROR:  stat failed on file '@expanded_libdir@/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@': No
such file or directory
AbortCurrentTransaction
proc_exit(0) [#0]
shmem_exit(0) [#0]
exit(0)
/usr/lib/postgresql/bin/postmaster: reaping dead processes...
/usr/lib/postgresql/bin/postmaster: CleanupProc: pid 6494 exited with
status 0
%END LOG%

I haven't been able to track down where/how it calls 'stat'. My guess is
that the variables @expanded_libdir@ and @DLSUFFIX@ aren't getting
expanded, or weren't expanded in a MAKEFILE. But, I don't know.
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Re: Where do I find *ALL* steps to use newly built kernels?

[Martin Fluch]

There is a very good mailing list about ThinkPads. It can be found at
http://www.bm-soft.com/~bm/tp770x.html
There can also be found some non TP770 related things.

Martin

On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, John Miskinis wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have been running the 2.1 debian release (well) on my TP 560
> for a week or so.  I have delved into building my own custom
> kernel, to get around APM problems, add sound, SCSI etc.
> 
> I have read the kernel howtos, and read/printed the various things
> under /usr/linux/src that apply to the "components" I wish to get
> going.
> 
> My latest attempts have been with the kernel-source-2.2.1_2.2.1-1.deb
> sources.
> 
> I figured I'd try adding one piece at a time.  My first attempt
> made APM (suspend/resume) work once only.  Other attemps got my
> mic linked to my speaker, but no /dev/mixer or /dev/audio devices.
> 
> SO, I want to start again from scratch.  When I make "bzdisk" and
> boot, I think it is using the existing "conf.modules" which is
> not compatible with the newly built kernels.
> 
> I'm hoping that there is some material out there I can read, which
> explains EVERYTHING I have to do.  I suspect that I missing several
> key steps, and do not know where else to look.
> 
> I am very willing to put the time in to get things right, I figure
> this time I will start with SOUND, then go onto the PCMCIA, SCSI,
> APM, etc.., adding one thing at a time.
> 
> ANY suggestions, pointers to more in-depth docs, etc, would be AWESOME
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> John
> 
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for what it's worth (re: To the Debian Project...)

[John Miskinis]

Hi,

I have only recently begun to "play" with linux, and have no
knowledge of how other distributions are setup.  I am also
not familiar with the history or overall goals of debian.

I read great things about debian, and chose it, not knowing what
to expect.  Perhaps the platform I am using (Thinkpad 560) is
making things overly complex, and my recent frustrations are to
be expected, and are warranted.

If anybody is touting this as an "out of the box solution", then
they must have installed it on a "more standard" PC or other platform,
and thus achieved success without "hassles".

I thought it would be much easier to get linux up and running taking
advantage of the hardware in my machine.  I have been able to get
it running in the last few weeks, with X Windows, and running quite
well.  As my CDROM (PCMCIA-based) could not be seen, it took a LOT
of "mucking around" and I even trashed my system many times.

Over the last few days I have taken on the challenge of trying to
get APM, SOUND, and SCSI support, with nothing but troubles and
confusion.  As much as I hate to admit this, Windows 95 installed
very easily.  If nothing else, MS has done great in this area.

I think a program that could run under Win95/98 or even DOS, that
would gather information about the hardware in a machine, and
generate a file that linux could take advantage of during installation
would be of great value.  Perhaps one exists, but I am not aware.

I am still determined to get debian linux running on this machine,
and I realize a certain amount of learning and patience is required.
I will only have the luxury of being a "linux newbie" for a short
time, and while I have this perspective I am passing on my feelings.
I have been using UNIX variants for many years, but have never needed
to aquire the "sysadmin" skills until now.

I hope my opinions are of some value.  I really appreciate the fact
that this software can be offered free, and respect and admire the
efforts of everyone that made it possible.

John

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Re: How does it...

[Patrik Magnusson]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fredrick Schmitt) writes:
> You knew what I meant. What is the most gutless system I could run it on
> (weakest processor)?
 
It has to be 32-bit or better, so 286 or worse won't work. (This is for
x86, the other ports I don't know about). Other than that you'll need
4 MB of ram for the installation (Debian), but after that there only 
has to be enough to hold the kernel I guess.  
I can't think of a reason why the speed of the processor should have a
lower limit, so get yourself a 386 at 1Hz at you should be all set.

/Patrik.

Clocking Modem Speed

[bwarsing]

Hi,

what is the way that most people clock their modem connection
speeds?
is there a specific script fo this?
Thanks,
bw

Re: mutt: help with saving a messge to a different folder

[Shao Zhang]

Hi,
This is the first thing that I come up with. But it still does not
meet what I need...

In mutt, when the first TAB pressed for changing the folders, it
will read all the folders from $Mailbox varaible(good), but if I
accidently press another TAB, it will read the folders from
$folder. My ~/Mail directory is about 200MB big, and mutt will
just take a long time to scan them.

I still believe there is a way to do it via save-hook. But yet,
I haven't heard any answer from the mutt mailing list and the
newsgroup.

Thanks.

Shao.

David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Quoting Shao Zhang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > Hi,
> > This is not what I want.
> > I read my mails in ~/mail, so I have already used 
> > folder = ~/mail.
> 
> Surely that's the wrong way round. Put the filenames you read mail from
> (i.e. the inboxes files that procmail writes) into a mailboxes command.
> This will make the c command prompt with them automatically, notify you
> when mail arrives, and allow your status line to tell you how many contain
> new messages.
> 
> mailboxes   ! ~/mail/foo ~/mail/bar
> 
> The ! is short for the system default mailbox which I don't use but I'd
> sure want to see anything that arrived there.
> 
> > But when I save the message, I want to save it in ~/Mail.
> > Thanks.
> 
> For which the
> 
> set folder=~/Mail
> 
> is intended, a folder for files containing mail. When you give the s
> command, the = sign will act as shorthand for ~/Mail/
> 
> > > On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 12:19:03PM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote:
> > >  
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >   I am using mutt to read all the messages in ~/mail.
> > > > >   When I save a message from a person say [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > 
> > > > >   I want to mutt to give me a default filename like this:
> > > > > 
> > > > >   ~/Mail/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > 
> > > > >   If I only set the save_address, then mutt will default the
> > > > >   filename to ~/mail/[EMAIL PROTECTED] So how do I let mutt to 
> > > > > choose
> > > > >   a different folder I want when saving the msg.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: mutt questions

[Shao Zhang]

Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've never saved my out-going email while I've used mutt (most of my
> posts are to mailing lists and usenet, so I can always get a copy
> when I need one), but this thread had inspired me to try to get a
> default folder set up for out-going email. I've tried 
> 
>   save-hook '~A' your-default-folder
>   save-hook mutt +mutt.`date "+%m%y"`
>   
> but they don't seem to do anything. Searching the mutt mailing list
> gave a bunch of articles where people wanted to use save-hook to do
> procmail's job, but no really decent (for me at least, I'm dense.)
> examples on getting this going.

In that case, I think this is what you need:

### record
### Type: string
### Default: none
### This specifies the file into which your outgoing messages should be
### appended. (This is meant as the primary method for saving a copy of your 
### messages, but another way to do this is using the my_hdr command to
### create a Bcc: field with your email address in it.)
### The value of $record is overridden by the $force_name and $save_name
### variables, and the fcc-hook command.
set record="~/mail/sent-mail"

I have also written a script which will backup the sent-mail
folder monthly just like pine. Mail me if you needed.

Cheers,

Shao.

> 
> All I'd like to do is to make sure that any email I compose is saved
> to ~/Mail/sent-mail. The date thing above seems pretty cool (kind of
> like pine), but I'd settle for just one file right now. Is this
> process automatic, or do I need to do something to save a message?
> >From my understanding of the save-hook info in the mutt manual,
> save-hook works on a regular expression in the From: or To: headers
> (I guess depending on whether it's incoming or outgoing).
> 
> I'm assuming you guys save email you've composed to a file too,
> right? 
> 
> Any insight will be greatly appreciated.
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xemacs html mode

[Juli-Manel Merino Vidal]

Hi all,

which are the differences between html-mode and hm--html-mode ? Why
html-mode by default ? Can I change it ?

And what about hm--html-minor-mode ?

Thanks.
PS: I'm looking for info about linuxdoc and latex...

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Re: Installing/Debianizing WindowMaker themes

[Adrian Thompson]

Hello,  Windowmaker makes a dir in your home dir called 
GNUstep/windowmaker/library.
Under this dir is the dir "Themes"
"gunzip theme.tar.gz | -xvf"IN the theme dir.  Your theme will be added.

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Salman Ahmed wrote:

> How can I either install WindowMaker theme tarballs
> or debianize them and then install via dpkg/apt ?
>
> Running slink + some potato debs (WindowMaker-0.60).
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: Newbie needs help on X win!!!

[Adrian Thompson]

Hello,  Depending on what graphics card you have, install the required Xserver. 
 ie.
XF86_SVGA.  < that one is very generic to most graphic card types.  Install 
all
the bins and then the rest is up to you... like apps and games.

You will be required to configure a script called "/etc/XF86Config," but there 
are
programs that will do that for you like the /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config bin.  Be 
ready
to input your monitor vertical and horizontal sync rates (GET IT RIGHT) and
information on your graphics card.  ie. vid RAM and clocks.  The xf86config 
program
will prob for clocks for you.  I'm not going to write a novel, but I hope that 
helps.
:)

-=Adrian=-

Tam Ma wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I just install "slink" and all of the packages that I need. Now I want
> installl X window but I don't know which packages to install. Can you guys
> give me a list of packages I should Install to get X window working. I
> don't want anything fancy yet, right now I just want ordinary X window and
> maybe with file manager like Gnome or something.
>
> Thanx so much.
>
> Tam Ma
>
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Re: To the Debian Project, IMHO

[Godric]

Simon Martin wrote:

>I am still adamant that any attempt to paint Linux as an out of the box 
>solution
> with no prior knowledge is a real danger to the on-going comercial success of 
> Linux. I worked in tech-support for Xerox for about 7
> years (Xerox used to sell Apple Mac, IBM PS/2 and Dell in Latin America), and 
> I would say that at least 70% of the problems we had
> we with users who not only did not know what they were doing (no problems 
> with that) but who did not WANT to know what they were
> doing. Microsoft has fixed the image of it's OS as "just use and ignore it". 
> >Let's not fall into that trap.


I agree. I also worked on Tech support for a large company using Windows
and found the same thing. IMHO the real issue is that there needs to be
*two* kinds of Operating Systems, as we have now - the Windows kind
where the user can install and use it without too much knowledge, with
the slick GUI's, and the GNU/Linux kind as found in Debian distribution
which can be configured, and most importantly taken apart to see how it
works, and then put back together again, so giving people the chance to
learn and understand about Operating Systems. 

IMHO there are two important issues. First, what we must not do is allow
GNU/Linux to just imitate Windows - we must have and maintain a
GNU/Linux distribution which is for techies and people who want to
become techies. Let Corel and others have a distribution which they can
make easier, but let us 
This leads to the second important issue - free software. Debian is
important because it is committed to the principles of free software,
*and* because it gives us the chance to help develop it, to participate.
I may be wrong but there seems to me to be a  sense of community among
Debian users/developers which you just don't get with Windows and the
stuff produced by big corporations.
As Corel and other corporate concerns develop GNU/Linux I am sure they
will go the same way - it will be them, the corporation, and us, the
users, plus restrictive license agreements which take away freedoms.

To sum up - what IMHO is important is not the commercial success of
GNU/Linux, but keeping GNU/Linux tweakable, learnable, interesting and
composed of free software with all the advantages that brings in terms
of community and development. 

Godric

Re: Installing/Debianizing WindowMaker themes

[wonglhg]

Salman Ahmed wrote:
> 
> How can I either install WindowMaker theme tarballs
> or debianize them and then install via dpkg/apt ?
> 
> Running slink + some potato debs (WindowMaker-0.60).

Copy the WM theme tarballs to the directory
/home/user_name/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker and

# tar zxf theme_name.tar.gz

Re: Netscape

[Art Lemasters]

On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 11:57:30PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:
>   I just did an apt-get dselect-upgrade, and it seemed to fix whatever
>   was causing Netscape and Acrobat to segfault.

 Yes...same here.  Thanks.  The developers were right on it.

Art

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Re: Netscape

[Eric G . Miller]

On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 06:25:17AM +, Art Lemasters wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 12:31:08AM -0500, Brad wrote:
> [...]
> > For the curious, i'm using the navigator from the navigator-smotif-461
> > package (i don't need no steenkin' mail and news and wysinwyg html
> > editor in my web browser!). wmaker from the wmaker package, xserver-svga.
> > 
> > Anyone else have any success stories? Or failure stories?
> 
> Yeah, I'm running static 461 in potato and it's segfaulting on startup.
> Should I be running xlib6g-static with it, although no depends showed in
> apt dselect?

  I just did an apt-get dselect-upgrade, and it seemed to fix whatever
  was causing Netscape and Acrobat to segfault.
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compiling/building unstable Eterm from sources

[Salman Ahmed]

I have upgraded my slink system to glibc2.1 to get some
packages from unstable. After that, when I tried to use
Eterm-0.89-9, it seg faults. Someone in an earlier email
pointed me to the FAQ on how to build a debian package
from source.

Unfortunately, I need a bit more help. What goes into
my /etc/apt/sources.list and exactly how do I compile
Eterm-0.89-9 from sources ?

Thanks.

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Installing/Debianizing WindowMaker themes

[Salman Ahmed]

How can I either install WindowMaker theme tarballs
or debianize them and then install via dpkg/apt ?

Running slink + some potato debs (WindowMaker-0.60).

Thanks.

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Re: Netscape

[Art Lemasters]

On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 12:31:08AM -0500, Brad wrote:
[...]
> For the curious, i'm using the navigator from the navigator-smotif-461
> package (i don't need no steenkin' mail and news and wysinwyg html
> editor in my web browser!). wmaker from the wmaker package, xserver-svga.
> 
> Anyone else have any success stories? Or failure stories?

Yeah, I'm running static 461 in potato and it's segfaulting on startup.  Should
I be running xlib6g-static with it, although no depends showed in apt
dselect?

Art

Re: Kppp

[dyer]

Eber de Castro Diniz wrote:

> The I execute kppp, it shows the following message after connect:
> ppp died unexpectly
> Does anyone know how to fix it?
>

You may try using an empty /etc/ppp/options file. It fixed it for me.

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.htaccess file

[Usef Saiful Ulum]

Hi,
I have created a .htaccess file and an associated passwd file:
---cut here---
$ cd /home/clinton/public_html/loser
$ cat > .htaccess
AuthName Rese Pisan Euy 
AuthType Basic
AuthGroupFile /dev/null
AuthUserFile /home/clinton/public_html/loser/.htpasswd

require valid-user

^D 
$ htpasswd -c .htpasswd clinton
---cut here

but when i try to access the directory, e.g.:
http://www.losers.org/~clinton/loser

I still can read the index.html, no passwd authentication...why is that?
I have restarted the server and nothings happen.

Here's a quote from my httpd.conf:


AccessFileName .htaccess

Order allow,deny
Deny from all



Thanks in advance,

Usef

Re: Newbie needs help on X win!!!

[j way]

> I just install "slink" and all of the packages that I need. Now I want
> installl X window but I don't know which packages to install. Can you guys
> give me a list of packages I should Install to get X window working. I
> don't want anything fancy yet, right now I just want ordinary X window and
> maybe with file manager like Gnome or something.
>

If you look in "Packages" for xbase or xbase-clients,
you will see a list of dependencies.  You will also need
a monitor driver (vga or svga or something).  If you install these
with dselect, other dependencies may arise.  Satisfy them as they
come up.  Some of the packages listed in xbase are:
rstart, rstartd, twm, xbase-clients, xdm, xfree86-common, xfs,
xlib6g, xlib6g-dev, xmh, xproxy, xserver-common, xsm & xterm.
When you get it running, you may purge xbase.
Stay with it, X is a great system. -jw

Re: ppp failure under debian (slakware with pppd 2.2 patch level 0 works)

[John Hasler]

Robert writes:
> I thought I was asking it to use ttyS1
Robert
You are.
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Re: ppp failure under debian (slakware with pppd 2.2 patch level 0 works)

[John Hasler]

Robert King writes:
> The modem responds fine from cu.  I get an OK back from AT&F.

What does it do if you send it ATZ from cu?   Try replacing ATZ with AT&F
in /etc/chatscripts/provider.

> I think it could be a problem with changes to pppd.

At the point at which your problem occurs pppd isn't doing anything.  It
just connects chat to the serial port and waits.
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my last apt-get dist-upgrade broke X

[Darxus]

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'


how do I fix it ?

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Re: Debianizers

[John Hasler]

> I was wondering whether there is a group of people out there that just go
> around debianizing programs.

There's about 400 of us.  We call ourselves Debian developers.

> What goes into the making of .deb packages?

Install and read 'developers-reference'.  You might also want to install
and read 'debian-policy' and install 'dpkg-dev'.  The latter contains
everything you'll need to build packages.  While only developers can put
packages into the Debian archive anyone can build and distribute packages.

> And are there ramifications for makeing .debs out off commercial
> packages...

None that wouldn't apply to any method of packaging.
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netscape error (won't display images)

[David Karlin]

Hello,
I just debianized a friend's old '486 (16MB ram) with a fresh slink
installation.  Everything seems to be running fine, except for netscape.

I did 'apt-get install navigator-smotif-45', and navigator comes up fine,
displays text, background colors, etc., but does not display images
(they show up as a grey box).  This is an old box; on-board VGA video.

When I do 'navigator' from an xterm, error messages from navigator go
to that xterm, and when I try to load an image, it shows a bunch of
(repeated) error messages.  Here is a snippet:

navigator-smotif_real:
X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
  Major opcode of failed request:  72 (X_PutImage)
  Serial number of failed request:  26570
  Current serial number in output stream:  26584
  Widget hierarchy of resource: unknown

Can anyone help me to interpret this?

Tia.

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Newbie needs help on X win!!!

[Tam Ma]

Hi guys,

Hi guys,

I just install "slink" and all of the packages that I need. Now I want
installl X window but I don't know which packages to install. Can you guys
give me a list of packages I should Install to get X window working. I
don't want anything fancy yet, right now I just want ordinary X window and
maybe with file manager like Gnome or something.

Thanx so much.

Tam Ma

17.2 gb drive

[Kenneth Scharf]

I've asked this before, but I'm still confused.  I have a 17.2gb maxtor
which the bios reports as 31930 cyl, 16 h, and 63 s.  Fdisk (ver 2.9g
or whatever came with slink) reports 1024 c, 255 h, 63 s (which adds up
to 8.4gb).  I was able to partition the drive using the installer from
stormix (which was probably a tcl or perl script front end to sfdisk). 
Now when I run fdisk (after having installed debian) I get the message
that partitions overlap.  

Fdisk also reports that the final cy is about 2100 (I forget the exact
number) which implies that some translation is happening.  My concern
is that the "/" partition starts below cy 1024 and ends above 1024. 
Lilo current works fine, but may break in the future if I add a new
kernel and the image gets written above logical cyl 1024.

The large disk how to implies that this cy, head, sec mapping is really
history with large disks as what is now supplied is just a logical
block number.  fdisk, cfdisk and sfdisk still seem to rely on c,h,s
numbers however.

I don't know if my bios set up is giving me the real physical layout of
the disk or a translation.  

SO... do I need a newer version of fdisk (is there a slink version of
what is in potato?).  How do I correctly partition such a large IDE
disk.  I feel that I need to have a small "/boot" partition at the
begining of the disk to hold the kernel boot image, but if lilo can use
the extended LBA mode this might not be necessary.  Does anyone
understand what is really going on?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: ppp failure under debian (slakware with pppd 2.2 patch level 0 works)

[Robert . King]

On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Jesse Jacobsen wrote:

> --BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> 
> I wonder if you've set up Debian to use /dev/cua1.  It should use
> /dev/ttyS1 instead, since the cua- "callout" devices are being phased
> out.

I thought I was asking it to use ttyS1, but where would this be for me to
check?

Thanks,
Robert.

Robert King, Australian Environmental Studies, Griffith University, Australia
3875 6677   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.ens.gu.edu.au/robertk/

statistician (n.) someone who can draw a mathematically precise line
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Re: ppp failure under debian (slakware with pppd 2.2 patch level 0 works)

[Robert . King]

On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Marcin Owsiany wrote:

> first thing: should there be any chat script at all if you authenticate
> using cu? (i've never used cu, so i may be wrong)
> Should the chat script try to reset the modem if it has already connected??
> (the ATZ and AT)
 
 This is using pon on the new setup.  I only use cu on the slackware setup
 because that's all that was available at the time.  I tried installing
 wvdial one time and had similar problems.  I thought maybe I have some weird 
 hardware problem with the serial card, but this is a new one with the new
 motherboard, and the old one does exactly the same.

> I would try to edit /etc/chatscripts/provider to contain only one line:
> '' ''
> if I were you.
> 
> On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 05:06:18PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > One thing that concerned me was that the kernel messages from dmesg don't
> > mention the ppp0 device as happens on a working debian ppp machine I've 
> > seen.
> > The relevant part of dmesg looks like this 
> > 
> > PPP: version 2.3.7 (demand dialling)
> > PPP line discipline registered.
> > 
> > and that's it.
> > 
> > What is happening?
> 
> this is how it looks like on my system (slink, 2.2.12):
> 
> PPP: version 2.3.7 (demand dialling)
> PPP line discipline registered.
> registered device ppp0
> PPP BSD Compression module registered
> PPP Deflate Compression module registered
> PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistered
> 
> and as far as i can remember, the "registered device ppp0" appears only
> after chat script has finished successfully:

My friedns machine gets the registered device ppp0 during boot up and he
doesn't start pppd at that stage.

> Sep 18 12:56:04 pecet pppd[166]: Serial connection established.
> Sep 18 12:56:05 pecet pppd[166]: Using interface ppp0
> 
> hope this helps,
> Marcin
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Marcin Owsiany
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 


Robert King, Australian Environmental Studies, Griffith University, Australia
3875 6677   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.ens.gu.edu.au/robertk/

statistician (n.) someone who can draw a mathematically precise line
from an unwarranted assumption to a foregone conclusion.  [anon.]

Re: ppp failure under debian (slakware with pppd 2.2 patch level 0 works)

[Robert . King]

On 18 Sep 1999, John Hasler wrote:
> Robert King wrote:
> > I'm fairly sure that the serial conifg is OK, as I can get out with cu -l
> > /dev/ttyS1, but when I try to start pppd, it complains about cu having
> > the serial line and won't let it at it.
> 
> Odd.  I just tried cu on this system and it complains that the line is in
> use.  Pon works fine.  Is there anything in /var/lock?  This might be a bug
> in cu.

There is nothing locking in /var/lock
 
> > Aug  4 19:16:01 castle chat[621]: send (ATZ^M)
> > Aug  4 19:16:01 castle chat[621]: expect (OK)
> > Aug  4 19:16:46 castle chat[621]: alarm
> > Aug  4 19:16:46 castle chat[621]: send (AT^M)
> > Aug  4 19:16:46 castle chat[621]: expect (OK)
> > Aug  4 19:17:31 castle chat[621]: alarm
> > Aug  4 19:17:31 castle chat[621]: Failed
> 
> Your modem is failing to respond.  What happens when you send it 'ATZ' from
> cu?  

The modem responds fine from cu.  I get an OK back from AT&F.  I can log
in to another machine using cu.

The only time the modem doesn't respond is when chat tries to talk to it.

 

> Please post your /etc/chatscripts/provider and /etc/ppp/peers/provider files.

etc/chatscripts/provider:

# This chatfile was generated by pppconfig 1.9.2beta2.0.
# Please do not delete any of the comments.  Pppconfig needs them.
# 
# ispauth PAP
# abortstring
ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO DIAL
TON
E' ABORT 'NO ANSWER'
# modeminit
'' ATZ
# ispnumber
OK-AT-OK ATDT33008100
# ispconnect
CONNECT \d\c
# prelogin

# ispname
# name deleted by me
# isppassword
# password delted by me
# postlogin
-
etc/ppp/peers/provider:

# This optionfile was generated by pppconfig 1.9.2beta2.0. 
# 
#
hide-password 
noauth
connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider"
debug
/dev/ttyS1
115200
defaultroute
noipdefault 
user zzkylie
remotename provider
ipparam provider

usepeerdns

-

Thanks for any light you can shed on this 

I think it could be a problem with changes to pppd.  The version thats
working is from my Dec 1996 slackware (from ppp 2.1.2b)

robert.

Robert King, Australian Environmental Studies, Griffith University, Australia
3875 6677   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.ens.gu.edu.au/robertk/

statistician (n.) someone who can draw a mathematically precise line
from an unwarranted assumption to a foregone conclusion.  [anon.]

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

[Nicolás Lichtmaier]

> > Well.. the libc maintainers don't want to add the locale for my country for
> >no reason, even if it is included in the package as source.
> I use a target in the glibc makefiles to generate the locales, if it 
> doesn't generate the one for your country, there's nothing I can do 
> about it.

 Modify the makefile; report it upstream; compile it from the debian/rules.

Re: Where do I find *ALL* steps to use newly built kernels?

[Jean-Yves BARBIER]

On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 05:44:08PM -0700, John Miskinis wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have been running the 2.1 debian release (well) on my TP 560
> for a week or so.  I have delved into building my own custom
> kernel, to get around APM problems, add sound, SCSI etc.

Hi John,

your kernel will be easier to make with 'make-kpkg'; 
it will build a debian package you'll just have to
instal (by 'dpkg -i ').

JY

Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

[Joel Klecker]

At 20:58 -0300 1999-09-18, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:

Well.. the libc maintainers don't want to add the locale for my country for
no reason, even if it is included in the package as source.


I use a target in the glibc makefiles to generate the locales, if it 
doesn't generate the one for your country, there's nothing I can do 
about it.

--
Joel Klecker (aka Espy)Debian GNU/Linux Developer
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://web.espy.org/>   http://www.debian.org/>

[no subject]

[Kjohn Sasitorn]

A

Where do I find *ALL* steps to use newly built kernels?

[John Miskinis]

Hi,

I have been running the 2.1 debian release (well) on my TP 560
for a week or so.  I have delved into building my own custom
kernel, to get around APM problems, add sound, SCSI etc.

I have read the kernel howtos, and read/printed the various things
under /usr/linux/src that apply to the "components" I wish to get
going.

My latest attempts have been with the kernel-source-2.2.1_2.2.1-1.deb
sources.

I figured I'd try adding one piece at a time.  My first attempt
made APM (suspend/resume) work once only.  Other attemps got my
mic linked to my speaker, but no /dev/mixer or /dev/audio devices.

SO, I want to start again from scratch.  When I make "bzdisk" and
boot, I think it is using the existing "conf.modules" which is
not compatible with the newly built kernels.

I'm hoping that there is some material out there I can read, which
explains EVERYTHING I have to do.  I suspect that I missing several
key steps, and do not know where else to look.

I am very willing to put the time in to get things right, I figure
this time I will start with SOUND, then go onto the PCMCIA, SCSI,
APM, etc.., adding one thing at a time.

ANY suggestions, pointers to more in-depth docs, etc, would be AWESOME

Many thanks,

John

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Debianizers

[Marshal Wong]

I was wondering whether there is a group of people out there that just 
go around debianizing programs.  Like bleeding edge programs.

I seems to me, since RedHat is probably the most popular, or at least
most famous, distribution, only RPMs are made of many packages.  Sure, 
you can use alien to debianize a package, but does alien put the files 
into places that follow the debian file-system policy, or does it just 
take the file locations straight from the RPM?  The problem with the
latter, is that after a while, you get a lot of cruft in the file
system, and the file system becomes a bit unorganized, especially with 
config files and such.  So it would probably be better to make .debs 
from the source, or tarballs.

What goes into the making of .deb packages?  And are there
ramifications for makeing .debs out off commercial packages, say for
example Quake3Arena (which is what really brought this up.), and
Metrowerks Codewarrior.  

Anyways, any ideas would be appreciated.

Marshal