Alsa with audiopci1370

[Kenneth Litko]

Alright, this is driving me nuts.

I don't think that alsa config is configuring my sound card correctly.  This is
what is in my /etc/modules.conf:

--
### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/alsa

# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
alias char-major-116 snd
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias snd-card-0 snd-audiopci1370
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm1-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm1-oss
options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=1 snd_device_mode=0660
snd_device_gid=29 snd_device_uid=0
options snd-audiopci1370 snd_index=1 snd_id=CARD_1 snd_dac1_frame_size=64
snd_dac2_frame_size=64 snd_adc_frame_size=64
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/alsa
---

Trouble is... there is no such module as snd-audiopci1370!
Fine, I can insert the mods manually using:

---
megatron:/usr/src# modprobe snd-card-ens1370
---

This loads with no problem that I can notice.
Here is the output of lsmod:

---
Module  Size  Used by
snd-card-ens13702568   0  (unused)
snd-ens1370 6796   0  [snd-card-ens1370]
snd-pcm1   17724   0  [snd-ens1370]
snd-timer   8316   0  [snd-pcm1]
snd-ak4531-codec   14476   0  [snd-ens1370]
snd-seq-device  3284   1  [snd-card-ens1370]
snd-mixer  25152   0  [snd-card-ens1370 snd-ens1370
snd-ak4531-codec]
snd-midi   13708   0  [snd-card-ens1370 snd-ens1370]
snd-pcm 9036   0  [snd-card-ens1370 snd-pcm1]
snd34124   1  [snd-card-ens1370 snd-ens1370 snd-pcm1
snd-timer snd-ak4531-codec snd-seq-device snd-mixer snd-midi snd-pcm]
soundcore   2532   2  [snd]
isapnp 24745   0 
dummy896   0  (unused)
bsd_comp3860   0 
ppp20748   2  [bsd_comp]
slhc4280   1  [ppp]
ipip4932   0  (unused)
nls_cp437   3744   0  (unused)
vfat8956   0  (unused)
fat29088   0  [vfat]
---

OK.  Now I try to load alsaplayer and get this:

---
bash-2.02$ alsaplayer
alsaplayer 0.99.26, (C) 1999 Andy Lo A Foe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
/dev/dsp: No such device
/dev/dsp: No such device
alsaplayer: error accessing DAC
---

OK.  Take a look at /dev/ (relevant files).

---
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  14 Oct 30 10:39 admmidi0
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  30 Oct 30 10:39 admmidi1
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  46 Oct 30 10:39 admmidi2
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  62 Oct 30 10:39 admmidi3
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   10 Oct 30 10:39 adsp -> /dev/adsp0
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  12 Oct 30 10:39 adsp0
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  28 Oct 30 10:39 adsp1
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  44 Oct 30 10:39 adsp2
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  60 Oct 30 10:39 adsp3
crw-rw   1 root audio116,   0 Oct 30 10:39 aloadC0
crw-rw   1 root audio116,  32 Oct 30 10:39 aloadC1
crw-rw   1 root audio116,  64 Oct 30 10:39 aloadC2
crw-rw   1 root audio116,  96 Oct 30 10:39 aloadC3
crw-rw   1 root audio116,   1 Oct 30 10:39 aloadSEQ
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   11 Oct 30 10:39 amidi -> /dev/amidi0
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  13 Oct 30 10:39 amidi0
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  29 Oct 30 10:39 amidi1
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  45 Oct 30 10:39 amidi2
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  61 Oct 30 10:39 amidi3
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   11 Oct 30 10:39 audio -> /dev/audio0
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,   4 Oct 30 10:39 audio0
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  20 Oct 30 10:39 audio1
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  36 Oct 30 10:39 audio2
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  52 Oct 30 10:39 audio3
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  10 Oct 30 10:39 dmfm0
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  26 Oct 30 10:39 dmfm1
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  42 Oct 30 10:39 dmfm2
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,  58 Oct 30 10:39 dmfm3
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,   9 Oct 30 10:39 dmmidi0
crw-rw--

Re: Lynx and .deb

[Brian May]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>True, but not really relevant. The MIME type returned by the server
>determines if the client sees the deb as text or not. Contact the server
>admins and have them add entries to mime.types.

Only applies if http is used.

If some other protocol (eg ftp) is used (possibly via http proxy), the
server cannot return a MIME type. I don't know how good programs (eg
Lynx and Squid) are at determining the file type by the extension.

Unfortunately, the original poster failed to specify how the file is
downloaded.
-- 
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Sawmill window manager

[Eric G . Miller]

On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 05:17:05PM -0600, David J. Kanter wrote:
> I've heard a lot of good things about Sawmill, so I downloaded it an started
> looking at the documentation. The problem is, I haven't the foggiest idea on
> how to use all the functions. The docs seem to be written from someone with
> experience in lisp, which I really don't have.

I just started using it yesterday, it comes with a pretty good config
utility that integrates with gnome-control-center. 
> 
> Is there a pre-Sawmill intro anywhere so I can learn how to use the
> functions? For instance, I looked at the Popup menu info node because I'd
> like to add a program to the Applications menu, but have no clue on how to
> do it.

IMO, the sawmill in potato is slightly broken because it isn't picking
up the debian menu system.  Hopefully this will be fixed before release.

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Is console-data 1999.08.29-4 supposed to get installed correctly ?

[Shaul Karl]

[01:27:53 /tmp]# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back
  netstd 
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 817kB of archives. After unpacking 1024B will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main console-data 1999.08.29-4 [817kB]
Fetched 817kB in 1m51s (7355B/s)   
(Reading database ... 37321 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace console-data 1999.08.29-3 (using 
.../console-data_1999.08.29-4_all.deb) ...
Can't locate Debian/DebConf/Client/ConfModule.pm in @INC (@INC contains: 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.005 
/usr/local/lib/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5 .) 
at /var/lib/dpkg/info/console-data.config line 170.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/lib/dpkg/info/console-data.config 
line 170.
dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
Can't locate Debian/DebConf/Client/ConfModule.pm in @INC (@INC contains: 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.005 
/usr/local/lib/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5 .) 
at /var/lib/dpkg/info/console-data.config line 170.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/lib/dpkg/info/console-data.config 
line 170.
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/console-data_1999.08.29-4_all.de
b (--unpack):
 subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/console-data_1999.08.29-4_all.deb
E: Sub-process returned an error code (1)

Can't find a valid termcap file at .../Readline.pm

[Keith Harbaugh]

I used to have a slink system which was running basically just fine,
then in a moment of Neanderthal adventurism
decided to try to "upgrade" to potato in one fell swoop.
Well, I got swooped all right, and have been trying to dig myself out
from a hole of unknown depth ever since.
I'll spare the boring or exciting (depending on your mood) details,
and focus on one very specific remaining problem:
I had trouble running debconf in "gtk" mode,
so decided to back off and settle for just "text" mode in debconf.
But now whenever I do an 'apt-get install whatever',
I get the error message

Can't find a valid termcap file at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/ReadLine.pm line305

What do I need to (re)install to cure this,
without (further) breaking my system?

Keith

Re: Password encryption

[John Pearson]

On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 08:55:50PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote
> Pann McCuaig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 22:24, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > Pann McCuaig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> > > > What do you call "discovering" a weak password using the tools created
> > > > for that purpose?
> 
> > > It is most certainly not decryption.  We usually call it "cracking",
> > > or more specifically, "brute-force cracking".
> 
> > Please define decryption for me. In my state of ignorance I would have
> > thought a simple definition would be "recovering plaintext from
> > ciphertext" and wouldn't speak to method.
> 
> Well, I'm no cryptographer.  But I always think of decryption as the
> deterministic inverse of encryption.  Brute-force cryptanalysis is more
> like guesswork.
> 

Even worse, there's no guarantee with regard to UNIX password authentication 
that the recovered password is the plaintext password set by the user - all 
you know for sure is that it produces the same hashed string, although that 
is all you need for this application.


John P.
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Re: AHA2940U2W...

[Gregory T. Norris]

I've got an unofficial installation diskset for slink that's setup
specifically for the Adaptec SCSI controllers.  You can snarf it from
.

Basically you'll need to boot from the diskette, but can then use the
CD as your installation media...

On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 03:33:20PM -0500, Daniel Ferrante wrote:
> 
> 
>   Hi Folks,
> 
>   Is it possible for someone to give me a help with this issue? I am
> trying to install Debian 2.1 in my machine, but I am getting a hang right
> after th CD boots...
> 
> On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Nick Phillips wrote:
> 
> > >   I am trying to install Debian 2.1 in my computer. I have an
> > > Adaptec 2940U2W SCSI Host adapter and Linux is hanging right after
> > > detecting it...
> > > 
> > >   Any help?!
> > 
> > It's been a while, but so far as I remember, the 2940U2W (AIC7890) is not
> > supported by the drivers in slink (slink is about the same age as the
> > AIC7890, give or take), and you'll either need to build a kernel either with
> > the 7890 drivers patched in, or get one recent enough to support it without
> > patching.
> > 
> > Unfortunately this makes booting from the slink CD rather difficult. When
> > I did it, I installed onto an IDE disk, built a kernel to suit the 7890,
> > used cpio to copy the system over onto the SCSI drive, set LILO up, and
> > finally removed the IDE drive. If you can't manage it any other way, I'm
> > sure someone will be able to send you a boot floppy or two...
> > 
> > If anyone else has any better ideas...
> > 
> 
>   Could somebody help me with the kernel! I don't have any means to
> install another HD and I don't have access to any Linux box around here
> (I'm pretty isolated... surronded by WinBlows...) 
> 
>   If someone could send me the boot floppies I'd be happy to send
> them back as soon as I finish the installation, otherwise, one can attach
> the files that I need to rawrite to the floppies.
> 
>   Thanks in advance,
> 
>   Cheers,
> 
>   Daniel.
> 
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Re: XFree update

[David Blackman]

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add thsi to your /etc/apt/sources.list, and then do, apt-get update; 
apt-get dist-upgrade

deb http://debian.oftheinter.net/ x335-slink/

- --dave



On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:

> I have slink installed with the Xfree version that comes with it. My
> video card is not supported in that release (Matrox Productiva G100 8mb
> AGP). I checked and it is supported in the new release of xfree. Can you
> indicate what exactly I must download, and how to install it so that it
> works? So far I haven't been able to get beyond a basic XF86Config file,
> that does not use much of the capability of the hardware.
> Thanks,
> Antonio
> 
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Re: updating of CMOS clock

[Keith Harbaugh]

On Sat, 1999-11-06 at 14:36:25 -0500, Salman Ahmed wrote:
> Whenever I reboot/shutdown my debian system, one of the message I see on
> the console during shutdown is :
> 
>   CMOS clock updated to Sat Nov  6 14:25:38 EST 1999
> 
> This alongwith the fact that APM support (which I have compiled into my
> 2.2.13 kernel) seems to reset the time on every reboot is likely the
> reason why my clock seems to be losing time gradually and every couple
> of weeks totally loses it!!!
> 
> I checked my RedHat5.2 installation for this CMOS clock updating on
> reboot/shutdown and RH5.2 is not doing this. Prior to using Debian-2.1,
> I had been using RH-5.2 with APM support compiled into 2.2.10 and I
> never had any problems with my clock losing time. Only after switching
> to 2.2.10 (with APM support) on Debian-2.1 did I notice this constant
> and consistent problem with my CMOS clock.
> 
> My questions are:
> 
> (1) is it possible to configure Debian so that it DOESN'T update the
> CMOS clock whenever the system is shutdown/rebooted ?
> 
> (2) are there any tools for Debian similar to timetool and timeconfig on
> RedHat which allow the setting of system time from a GUI and ncurses
> interface respectively ?
> 
> (3) How do I change my system's configuration so that the CMOS clock
> stores time in GMT ? This is supposed to be a better way to store time
> in the CMOS clock but I can't seem to find the option in my system's
> BIOS. (FYI, I am using an ABIT BH6 MB).
> 
> A number of people on this list have already recommended the use of
> packages like ntpdate, xntp, etc. but I would first prefer to solve this
> problem by having Debian not update my CMOS clock on every
> reboot/shutdown. After that, I will look into setting up xntp, etc. to
> sync time/date whenever I dial out to my ISP.
> 
> My system is a slink/potato salad.

(1) Edit /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh to comment out the command
hwclock --adjust.

(3) Edit /etc/defaults/rcS as appropriate (it changed a little from
slink to potato).

These solved, in my case, the problems you outlined, but of course YMMV.
I have no idea re (2).

Keith

Sawmill window manager

[David J. Kanter]

I've heard a lot of good things about Sawmill, so I downloaded it an started
looking at the documentation. The problem is, I haven't the foggiest idea on
how to use all the functions. The docs seem to be written from someone with
experience in lisp, which I really don't have.

Is there a pre-Sawmill intro anywhere so I can learn how to use the
functions? For instance, I looked at the Popup menu info node because I'd
like to add a program to the Applications menu, but have no clue on how to
do it.
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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and coincidences."
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Re: updating of CMOS clock

[Eric G . Miller]

  I've been using chronyd for some time to keep my system in sync. CMOS
  time in GMT, with dial-up connection. It works well "out of the box".
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Re: make question

[David Z. Maze]

Attila  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Attila> I've found this in a makefile. What does it mean?
Attila> clean:
Attila> rm -rf -f *~ \#*\# ;

The first line (starting on the first column, with the colon) declares
a target.  So you can type 'make clean' at the command line, and the
commands below get run.  The commands, in turn, are indented (the line
starts with a tab); in this case, running 'make clean' deletes
generally Emacs backup files (files named foo~, bar~, #baz#, #quux#,
and so forth).  Don't know what the extra '-f' or the extra ';' are
doing there, though.

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-- Abra Mitchell

Re: quicktime4 player for linux?

[James Pullman]

Quick answer:  No.

Longer answer:  Many people have asked Apple to release binaires of their new 
Sorenson Codecs (The codecs used in QT3/4).  Apple has steadfastly refused.  So 
bug Apple some more.

And I asnwered it without a long Apple rant..  I must be getting better.

On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 08:13:29PM +0530, T.V.Gnanasekaran wrote:
> any player that can play qt4 and the qt4 streaming media?
> -gnana
> 2.2.13|potato
> 
> 
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Re: teTeX

[Dylan Thurston]

On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 09:28:18PM +0100, Hans Gubitz wrote:
> While calculating new pk-files I get the message:
> /usr/lib/texmf/web2c/mktexupd: /var/spool/texmf/ls-R unwritable.

This is not a problem: the ls-R files are not word writeable to fix
some security problems.  They should be updated in a daily cron
script.

It's probably a bug that these messages aren't suppressed.

--Dylan Thurston
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

make question

[Attila]

I've found this in a makefile. What does it mean?

clean:
rm -rf -f *~ \#*\# ;

Thanks
 Attila

Re: Compiling ATA/66 support into the kernel?

[Robert Varga]

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:

> How do I compile ATA/66 support into the kernel?  And what version of the
> kernel should I use?  The slink boot floppies have 2.0.36 and this kernel
> is not currently recogonizing my ide2 and ide3 interfaces.
> 
> Here is my setup:
> 
> Abit BP6 MoBo.
> 128M PC100 SDRAM
> 2 * 466MHz Celeron PPGA

There are patches for kernel 2.0.37 on the kernel mirror under
people/hedrick. That I think handles (although I am not sure) the ATA/66
controller (HPT 366) on ABIT mobos. If not, then there are some patches
for 2.2.x... 

The pre-2.0.38 patches cannot be installed on the 2.0.38 kernel
unfortunately.

Robert Varga

Re: XFree update

[Brian Servis]

Antonio Rodriguez writes:
>I have slink installed with the Xfree version that comes with it. My
>video card is not supported in that release (Matrox Productiva G100 8mb
>AGP). I checked and it is supported in the new release of xfree. Can you
>indicate what exactly I must download, and how to install it so that it
>works? So far I haven't been able to get beyond a basic XF86Config file,
>that does not use much of the capability of the hardware.

The X maintainer has made available the 3.3.4 version for slink.  It can
be found at http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/xfree86-334-slink. If you
are using apt and the apt method in dselect(which I highly recommend 
you do) then just add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list and 
the update and upgrad.

deb http://samosa.debian.org/%7Ebranden/ xfree86-334-slink/

Brian Servis
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Re: NS/potato

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Dave Wiard wrote:

> I just installed NS4.7 under potato.  I've got the problem of start NS
> once and it works fine, start it up a second time and it halts before I
> can do anything.  Removing the ~/.netscape lets met start it up
> again, but we all know what's in that dir.  What's wrong with this
> picture?
>

I had this same problem and downgraded to 4.61 (tgz). It's a little
better, but is crashing often.



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IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
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   http://www.revistalinux.com.br

Re: Install of Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 on IBM ThinkPad 600E

[Toens Bueker]

Christian Ericsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I want to install Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 on IBM ThinkPad 600E. Is it possible?

It is :-)

http://www.e-trend.de/~toens/thinkpad.deb.html

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CD-ROM error (i think i found the cause)

[BC895]

Is it possible that the reason my CD-ROM drive has trouble reading the CD is 
because the CDs are CD-Rs??? My CD-ROM drive is a CR-563 made by a division 
of Panasonic (I think). It is 2x and uses the sbpcd driver. It is not an IDE 
drive, it plugs into my Sound Card.

AHA2940U2W...

[Daniel Ferrante]

Hi Folks,

Is it possible for someone to give me a help with this issue? I am
trying to install Debian 2.1 in my machine, but I am getting a hang right
after th CD boots...

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Nick Phillips wrote:

> > I am trying to install Debian 2.1 in my computer. I have an
> > Adaptec 2940U2W SCSI Host adapter and Linux is hanging right after
> > detecting it...
> > 
> > Any help?!
> 
> It's been a while, but so far as I remember, the 2940U2W (AIC7890) is not
> supported by the drivers in slink (slink is about the same age as the
> AIC7890, give or take), and you'll either need to build a kernel either with
> the 7890 drivers patched in, or get one recent enough to support it without
> patching.
> 
> Unfortunately this makes booting from the slink CD rather difficult. When
> I did it, I installed onto an IDE disk, built a kernel to suit the 7890,
> used cpio to copy the system over onto the SCSI drive, set LILO up, and
> finally removed the IDE drive. If you can't manage it any other way, I'm
> sure someone will be able to send you a boot floppy or two...
> 
> If anyone else has any better ideas...
> 

Could somebody help me with the kernel! I don't have any means to
install another HD and I don't have access to any Linux box around here
(I'm pretty isolated... surronded by WinBlows...) 

If someone could send me the boot floppies I'd be happy to send
them back as soon as I finish the installation, otherwise, one can attach
the files that I need to rawrite to the floppies.

Thanks in advance,

Cheers,

Daniel.

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Re: kernel upgrade options

[John]

on 06 Nov 99, Matthew Gregan wrote...inter alia

>
>On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 05:57:58PM +, John wrote:
>> I couldn't get this to work. My patches were in /usr/src and I got 'no
>> such file or directory', so I moved them into the kernel source dir.
>> and did -p0 thinking that should be right. No luck, so I did -p1 -
>> there was action, but only 33 times 'Hunk xx failed at '  and
>> quite a few 'succeeded' at  with fuzz 1 or 2 and a final line
>> 'patch:  malformed patch at line 2121: s'.
>
>Okay, it sounds like your kernel source isn't a pure one (I'm guessing
>here). Patch is quite smart, and can patch files even if they're
>different to what it's expecting, although it'll only work if they're a
>little different, not a huge amount.
>
>It might be easier to download a fresh kernel source tarball from one of
>the kernel.org mirrors and try from there. You could download the
>latest, so you don't have to do any patching - but if you want to learn
>to patch, download an older one and apply the patches you've got to it.
>The only problem is a kernel source tarball is about 13MB.
>
>I'm pretty sure the source you extracted from the Debian package should
>be a standard kernel though, so maybe there's something messed up. rm
>the source dir and extract it again, then try patching it...
>
Many thanks for the detail in your response. It will take me some time to
absorb and tryout. Will let you know how I get on. Time is not an issue
for me as I have two other Linux distributions working to give cover
until I get up to speed with Debian - the need for knowledge and
expertise is one of its main attractions to me.

Regards.

teTeX

[Hans Gubitz]

While calculating new pk-files I get the message:
/usr/lib/texmf/web2c/mktexupd: /var/spool/texmf/ls-R unwritable.

Whats wrong?

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Re: gtk+ 1.2?

[John Pearson]

On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 05:15:48AM -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote
> libgtk++ is one of a few 'moving targets' that debian
> can't keep up with.  Another is wine.  Also VDK and
> gEDA.  So I have been downloading sources from their
> home sites and building my own in /usr/local/src. 
> This works but you must include /usr/local in your
> path.  Also add /usr/local/lib to your /etc/ld.so.conf
> and run ldconfig after building the libraries.  You
> could also download the source from unstable and then
> use dpkg-source -x and dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc to
> build your own .deb's under your current version of
> libc.  Only problem is I think that when you DO
> upgrade to potato dselect won't grab the latest
> versions of the packages you built since it will think
> they are the same version and then you will still have
> the versions built against the older libc.  You of
> course could un-install and re-install the packages. 
> 

Easily kludged.  After you unpack the sources, edit
-/debian/changelog to specify a debian
version that falls between the slink version (if any)
and the current potato version, so that the potato 
version still looks like an upgrade.  For example:
...
gtk+1.2 (1.2.6-0huiac.slink.1) stable; urgency=low

  * Built for slink.

 -- John Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:14:31 +1030

gtk+1.2 (1.2.6-1) unstable; urgency=low

  * New upstream version.
  * Move docs and info to /usr/share/{doc,info}.

 -- Ben Gertzfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:35:06 -0700
...

When playing with potato sources you should also bear in mind that 
potato stores docs & manpages under /usr/share rather than /usr as 
in slink, so you will probably have to edit debian/rules and maybe 
other places also (depending on the package) to get a properly 
'slinkified' package.

[snip .sig siltation]


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Re: NS/potato

[Ron Farrer]

Dave Wiard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> I just installed NS4.7 under potato.  I've got the problem of start NS
> once and it works fine, start it up a second time and it halts before I
> can do anything.  Removing the ~/.netscape lets met start it up
> again, but we all know what's in that dir.  What's wrong with this
> picture?

Consider this an "AOL!" :)


I had the same problem with potato after upgrading from slink. This and
the fact that apt nor dselect would upgrade X, and I had a broken X, I
went back to slink..

This was on my AS200 4/233 with the Tru64 UNIX  4.0d libs, NS 4.7.

Anyone know what the deal is?


TIA,

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How to install Debian over dynamic ip address from dhcp

[Bing Ho]

Hello,

I'd like to get a Linux gateway running on a cable modem connection. 
Unfortunately, the cable company uses dhcp to dynamically allocate ip 
addresses.


Is it difficult to somehow modify the Debian boot floppies to first run the 
dhcp client to get the ip address, and then install Debian over 
apt/http/ftp/NFS?


Thank you for any information or pointers.

Bing Ho

NS/potato

[Dave Wiard]

I just installed NS4.7 under potato.  I've got the problem of start NS
once and it works fine, start it up a second time and it halts before I
can do anything.  Removing the ~/.netscape lets met start it up
again, but we all know what's in that dir.  What's wrong with this
picture?

Dave Wiard
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XFree update

[Antonio Rodriguez]

I have slink installed with the Xfree version that comes with it. My
video card is not supported in that release (Matrox Productiva G100 8mb
AGP). I checked and it is supported in the new release of xfree. Can you
indicate what exactly I must download, and how to install it so that it
works? So far I haven't been able to get beyond a basic XF86Config file,
that does not use much of the capability of the hardware.
Thanks,
Antonio

Re: SB Live Module

[SGaerner]

I made a fatal mistake...
I added /usr/src/linux/include/linux :((
So I can't compile it.

Thanks for your help.
It sounds very nice ;-)

Bye,
Sven

Jean-Yves BARBIER wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 05:22:18PM +0100, SGaerner wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > There are still problems with the SB Live kernel module.
> > I have added the following lines...
> >
> > Makefile:
> > -I/usr/src/linux/include to the line
> > CFLAGS += -I$(INCLUDEDIR) -I.
> > newline--> CFLAGS += -I$(INCLUDEDIR) -I. -I/usr/src/linux/include
>
> Hi, I'm on a pure slink system, 2.2.12 kernel.
>
> The *only* thing to do to get a nice compilation is to modify
> 1 line in the Makefile.
> change from: INCLUDEDIR = /usr/include
> to:  INCLUDEDIR = /usr/src/linux/include
>
> JY
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Re: Sparc Potato

[Sven Esbjerg]

On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 09:49:16AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> Yes it is taken very seriously.
I thought so but anyway... ;-)

> Note, that you can put libc6 on hold, and just upgrade the rest of the
> system. Be assured that all of this will be in the release notes once we
> near release.
Thanx for the guidance. 

To let you know. We're testing Debian against BSD on our Sun machines at my 
work. I'm in favor for Debian but the
rest has doubts. Redhat has been tried shortly. It didn't work out very well...
Since I'm at it: Have anyone tried to compare Debian on Alpha with Redhat? If 
so what is your opinion?
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Re: SB Live Module

[Jean-Yves BARBIER]

On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 05:22:18PM +0100, SGaerner wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> There are still problems with the SB Live kernel module.
> I have added the following lines...
> 
> Makefile:
> -I/usr/src/linux/include to the line
> CFLAGS += -I$(INCLUDEDIR) -I.
> newline--> CFLAGS += -I$(INCLUDEDIR) -I. -I/usr/src/linux/include

Hi, I'm on a pure slink system, 2.2.12 kernel.

The *only* thing to do to get a nice compilation is to modify
1 line in the Makefile.
change from: INCLUDEDIR = /usr/include
to:  INCLUDEDIR = /usr/src/linux/include

JY
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Re: Where, who, what?

[Aaron Solochek]

the question really is how fast of a connection you have to the internet.  If 
its faster than a
modem, you can download it, but otherwise you'd probably want to order the cd.  
I did a potato
installation on a 56k modem this summer, and it took quite a long time, 
although it didn't need
to be supervised.

 -Aaron Solochek
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Ok, I'm confused.  I have looked at all the ftp and FAQ's and I still don't 
> get the steps to
> download your version of Linux.  What are the exact steps to download form 
> the site
> http://www.debian.org/?
>
> Thank you
> Brigette Heffner
>
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Re: Where, who, what?

[Davide Libenzi]

On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ok, I'm confused.  I have looked at all the ftp and FAQ's and I still don't 
> get the steps to 
> download your version of Linux.  What are the exact steps to download form 
> the site 
> http://www.debian.org/?
> 
> Thank you 
> Brigette Heffner
> 
> 
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Hi Brigette,

I think it's better to order CDROMs than downloading the entire distro.
Look at http://www.linuxcentral.com , order the Debian distro ( 2-4 US$ for 3
CDROMs ) and possibly leave some US$ to Debian support.

Cheers,
Davide.

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Where, who, what?

[brigette]

Ok, I'm confused.  I have looked at all the ftp and FAQ's and I still don't get 
the steps to 
download your version of Linux.  What are the exact steps to download form the 
site 
http://www.debian.org/?

Thank you 
Brigette Heffner


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Re: PPP stuff continued... (I am not stuck on routing any more)

[John Hasler]

John Miskinis writes:
> My current chatscript does not have much in it, except for the ATZ and
> the wait for OK, with many abort actions.

Pppconfig creates /etc/chatscripts/provider and /etc/ppp/peers/provider
files using the information you give it.  If you tell it to use PAP or CHAP
there won't be much in /etc/chatscripts/provider because there doesn't need
to be: pppd does the authentication using information that pppconfig puts
in the secrets files.  If you tell pppconfig to use chat authentication it
will put the usename, password, etc in /etc/chatscripts/provider.

Delete your hacked-up /etc/chatscripts/provider and /etc/ppp/peers/provider
and run pppconfig again.  You are making this harder than it needs to be.

If pppconfig won't work for you I would really like to know how it goes
wrong: I'm the author.

How did you get the idea that pppconfig had something to do with diald?
I don't mean to criticize you: I'd really like to know.  If the
documentation is misleading I'll try to fix it.
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Re: quicktime4 player for linux?

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> don't hold your breath, apple has such a tight rope around their codecs
> nobody but them can play most of the qt files.  not even 3rd party windows
> programs for the most part. and i havent seen anything that showed them
> willing to license the stuff to anyone for a reasonable price.

I know, it sucks - I couldn't even watch the second Star Wars trailer on
my computer - I had to use my parent's (which run Win95).

> same goes for AVIs, intel has a pretty tight grip on them and none of
> the newer Indeo formats work with xanim(i think indeo 3 is the newest
> it can do)

It sounds like you need to upgrade you XAnim.  I can very happily play
Indeo 5 .AVIs under Linx with the latest XAnim.  Note that I'm a known
bigot for compiling stuff by hand - there are no known (to me, at least)
Debian slink packages for the latest XAnim.

> wish someone would come out with a player (YES! ID PAY FOR IT!) that
> could (shareware).

The only problem being that Apple's licensing fees are very likely outside
the range of almost all shareware authors.

> GPL/OSS would be best of course but id rather have shareware then
> nothing in cases like this :) (well, i have nothing now as i refuse to
> reinstall win* to watch movies)

I know how you feel.  Sometime it's tempting to get another HD for this
computer just for Windows - that's where all the best computer games are.

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Re: quicktime4 player for linux?

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> any player that can play qt4 and the qt4 streaming media?
> -gnana
> 2.2.13|potato

No.

The encode/decode algorithms for the video portions are closely held
secrets, so that a non-Win/non-MacOS platform cannot play QT4 movies.

It also seems that those who control the algorithms have no interest in
making the algorithms available under _any_ circumstances.

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Re: Help: dhcp client problems

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> Several times in the last little while, Netscape and ping have had problems,
> either hanging or responding with Unknown.  I then booted up in Windows95,
> and no problem.   Then returning to Debian (1.3.1 still!) and the problem is
> solved.  I am on @HOME cable. They tell me that their modem is in  constant
> communication with the software  and that the Windows DHCP module is
> effectively reseting the modem.  Apparently my DHCP client is periodically
> failing. They say that some RH installs also have this problem ( this is why 
> they
> don't support Linux).

That's because RH has a really crappy DHCP client.  @home isn't the only
people who have DHCP problems with Linux; most distributions make a really
poor choice as to which client to include.

Incidentally, it sounds like the DHCP client isn't renewing the
lease.  What happens when you do that manually, and does it happen
regularly (ie every x hours on the dot)?

> Apparently a DHCP client that has "pump7" would be desirable.  Can
> anyone tell me what to do.  Before you tell me to do so, I should say
> that I installed Debian 2.0 on another drive, but have another
> problem--it won't recognize that I have an ethernet card (3c509, I
> think), so I would like to get 1.3.1 working for the time being.
> Thanks.

The first thing I would do is install a different DHCP client, and see if
the problem goes away.  I like to recommend ISC's DHCP client
(http://www.isc.org).  It's extremely configurable, and Just Works.

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Re: quicktime4 player for linux?

[aphro]

don't hold your breath, apple has such a tight rope around their codecs
nobody but them can play most of the qt files.  not even 3rd party windows
programs for the most part. and i havent seen anything that showed them
willing to license the stuff to anyone for a reasonable price.  same goes
for AVIs, intel has a pretty tight grip on them and none of the newer
Indeo formats work with xanim(i think indeo 3 is the newest it can do) ..i
wish someone would come out with a player (YES! ID PAY FOR IT!) that could
do this stuff.  mpegtv works great for MPGs and videocds
(shareware). GPL/OSS would be best of course but id rather have shareware
then nothing in cases like this :) (well, i have nothing now as i refuse
to reinstall win* to watch movies)

nate


On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, T.V.Gnanasekaran wrote:

gnana >Hi again,
gnana >
gnana >> Does xanim not do this?
gnana >that's for stored qt files. what about streaming qt like the
gnana >one at www.bbcworld.com?
gnana >
gnana >-gnana
gnana >
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Re: IP Aliasing on slink/2.2.12

[aphro]

im sure youve done this but have you updated the routing table for the new
alias ?  i use a perl script to add aliases, i just enter the domains into
a file and it detects what can be added and adds them (it automatically
ignores hosts that are already bound to another machine/network)  if you
want it let me know. (email directly [EMAIL PROTECTED] or i may miss it)

nate


On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Damon Muller wrote:

dm-deb >Hi gang,
dm-deb >
dm-deb >I've got a pretty base slink install with a few additions (all the
dm-deb >proposed updates, and some stuff from netgod), for which I have compiled
dm-deb >a cusom 2.2.12 kernel.
dm-deb >
dm-deb >I have IP alias support compiled into the kernel:
dm-deb >
dm-deb >callisto% grep ALIAS  /usr/src/linux/.config
dm-deb >CONFIG_IP_ALIAS=y
dm-deb >
dm-deb >However, when I try and create an alias, according to the ifconfig
dm-deb >output, it has been created, but it wont respond to a ping or any sort
dm-deb >of connection attempt expect from itself. I can create an IP alias in
dm-deb >exactly the same way on the RedHat 5.2 box with a 2.2.x kernel sitting
dm-deb >next to it and ping it immediately from anywhere on the network. The
dm-deb >same thing doesn't work on the Debian box, however. The pings do not
dm-deb >even show up in the iplog syslog entries.
dm-deb >
dm-deb >There are no firewall rules, IPChains rules, or anything unusual like
dm-deb >that running on the box.
dm-deb >
dm-deb >dpkg -l netbase gives the following:
dm-deb >
dm-deb >ii  netbase 3.12-2 Basic TCP/IP networking binaries
dm-deb >
dm-deb >I should note that this machine's primary eth0 IP address works file 
(I'm
dm-deb >using SSH to connect to it as I speak).
dm-deb >
dm-deb >This has got me stumped! We want to replace our RedHat server with a
dm-deb >Debian one, as it's a lot easier for me to admin a Debian box. But
dm-deb >unless I can work this out, I'm up sh*t creek!
dm-deb >
dm-deb >Any thoughts would be appreciated!
dm-deb >
dm-deb >cheers,
dm-deb >
dm-deb >damon
dm-deb >
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SB Live Module

[SGaerner]

Hi!

There are still problems with the SB Live kernel module.
I have added the following lines...

Makefile:
-I/usr/src/linux/include to the line
CFLAGS += -I$(INCLUDEDIR) -I.
newline--> CFLAGS += -I$(INCLUDEDIR) -I. -I/usr/src/linux/include

audio.c:
after the following line I added
#include 
#include 

In this header file two defines are important (I think).
#define OSS_GETVERSION  _SIOR ('M', 118, int)
#define SNDCTL_DSP_GETODELAY_SIOR ('P', 23, int)

When I run now 'make' I get the following messages:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sblive $ make emu10k1
cc -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -DLINUX -DPCI_8010 -Wall -O2  -I/usr/include -I.
-I/usr/src/linux/include   -c audio.c -o audio.o
audio.c: In function `emu10k1_audio_ioctl':
audio.c:281: `OSS_GETVERSION' undeclared (first use this function)
audio.c:281: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
audio.c:281: for each function it appears in.)
audio.c:285: warning: unreachable code at beginning of switch statement
audio.c:693: `SNDCTL_DSP_GETODELAY' undeclared (first use this function)
make: *** [audio.o] Error 1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sblive $

Has anybody an idea where the problem is??

Bye,

Sven

PPP stuff continued... (I am not stuck on routing any more)

[John Miskinis]

Hi,

I had to change the subject line...

OK, I had run pppconfig many hours ago, and at that time I thought
it was tied to diald.  When I execute "pon" now, it will not
connect, but my /etc/chatscripts needs work.  Now that I have PPP
working (no authorization and no compression yet) I think I have
enough knowledge to get automation working.  My current chatscript
does not have much in it, except for the ATZ and the wait for OK,
with many abort actions.  I will work this out though.

As far as browsers, I fixed my --configure --pending issue (which
was related to libwraster2 needed by libraster2-dev) and reran
ldconfig.  But the Mosaic-2_6 still couldn't find libXt.so.6 even
the link was there.  I deleted mosaic (for now).  I checked out
both "arena" and "mozilla" from the slink CD.  For some reason(s) the
login page at "hotmail.com" does not work in them.

I will probably end up grabbing netscape after some sleep.

I again thank you all for the PPP assistance.

John

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Re: PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(

[Martin Fluch]

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, John Miskinis wrote:

> That makes sense, I can see where /dev/modem is useful once things
> are working.  I did remember seeing a note somewhere (I've been
> up all night reading stuff, I forget where) where they discouraged
> the use of /dev/modem, and /dev/mouse however!

A Linux system running on a laptop has to cope with serial ports suddenly
aparing and disaparing and not necesarely connectetd to the same
/dev/ttyS? port. So this is for me the only way to handle this. This is a
little bit different situation from a 'normal' PC (never the less I don't
know the reasons, why this the use of /dev/modem and /dev/mouse is
discouraged there - but this is only due to I've not read about this, yet)

> I'm still accepting recommendations for slink-compatible browsers.
> I just grabbed "Mosaic" but it is complaining about the lack of
> "libXt.so.6".  And the darn link is there (to libXt.so.6.0) on my
> system.  This might be related to a warning I get when running
> ldconfig, as I have pending configurations of libwraster stuff from
> a failed attempt of installing dev versions of things without the
> required non-dev versions.  (Another story, yet to be resumed).

I've use netscape 4.7 found in

ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.netscape.com/communicator/english/4.7/unix/supported/linux20_glibc2/

dwonlad size range from 11MB (navigator standalone) to 20MB (proffessional
edition). I've untard the archive, used ns-install (comming with the
tar-ball) to install it in /usr/local/netscape47, made an symlink from
/usr/local/netscape to this directory and final a symlink from
/usr/local/bin/netscape to /usr/local/netscape/netscape ... that works
fine for me.

I've never tried to use the debian packages to install netscape, so I
can't say anything about them.

Martin

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Re: PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(

[John Hasler]

Nick Phillips writes:
> Indeed. On the subject of automating, I recommend:

> options common to *all* possible connections go in /etc/ppp/options

> options for any particular connection go in /etc/ppp/peers/connectionname

> symbolic link to favourite dialout connection goes in
> /etc/ppp/peers/provider (I use /etc/ppp/peers/isp, but I'd got into that
> habit before I started using Debian)

> pppd command line is never more complicated than "pppd call
> connectionname"

> use PAP authentication if possible - connections will probably happen at
> least slightly faster

Pppconfig takes care of all the above.  That's what it is for.
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Re: PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(

[John Hasler]

Nick Phillips writes:
> Either at the command line, or in one of its config files, pppd needs the
> "defaultroute" option to tell it to make the ppp link the default route.

Pppconfig provides it by default in the provider file.

> BTW, don't be happy to leave it as it is (starting ppp manually once
> connected) - it won't be too difficult to automate it...

Not too difficult, no.  Just type 'pon'.
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Re: PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(

[John Hasler]

John Miskinis writes:
> No default route "stuff" shows up, and I'm wondering if the debian
> distribution sets up something that I must change.

Did you set up an ethernet card when you installed?  If you did the install
will have set up a defaultroute to the ethernet.  Pppd won't override an
existing defaultroute.  You can probably just remove that default route:
most people don't need it.

> When I ran "pppconfig" it put the 2 DNS server numbers in OK, but
> according to the howto, there should be a "domain ISP_DOMAIN_NAME" line
> before them, and I don't know the name, or if it is needed.

The HOWTO is wrong.  "domain ISP_DOMAIN_NAME" is not needed.

> I am using a PCMCIA-based modem, connecting manually through minicom and
> specifying my username and password.  I then quit minicom leaving the
> modem connected, and run "pppd -d -detach /dev/ttyS2 57600".

Why are you doing that?  Why don't you just use 'pon' to start the
connection and 'poff' to stop it?  You ran pppconfig: pon should work
fine.

Using pon may also solve your defaultroute problem.
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Re: PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(

[John Hasler]

John Miskinis writes:
> I tried "pon" but it complained about some things that I have not yet
> configured (in diald?).

Pppconfig configures everything that 'pon' needs.  Exactly what pon
complain about?   (pon is just a wrapper around pppd.)

Diald is not involved here.
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Re: read-only file system

[Martin Fluch]

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:

> Actually, I would encourage you to keep this ro.  There's typically
> no reason to write into /usr except when installing new
> packages.  This provides some extra security and system consistency.

BTW, apt-get can be configured to automaticaly remount the /usr partition
rw or ro bevor and after the instalation ... see
/usr/doc/apt/examples/apt.conf.gz (at least the version shiping in
potato).

Martin

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Re: Adding a style to TeX

[Colin Marquardt]

* Damon Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> a couple of directories in /usr/local/lib/texmf and put in the required
> files (apacite.bst and apacite.sty). The tetex doc said to run `texhash'
> to update the ls-R file, which I did (as root).

> When I try and run latex on my paper, I get the following error:

> ! Undefined control sequence.
> l.111 \citeA
> {easteal-93}.  Yet while technically accurate, such a
>   definition

You can use 
  kpsewhich 
to see where a certain file is taken from (or not, if it´s not found
:-)

Maybe your problem is that you should put the files a little bit deeper
in the texmf tree, e.g. at /usr/local/lib/texmf/tex/latex/apacite.

HTH,
  Colin

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ppp + ip-up.d + fetchmail + multiple polls

[Colin Marquardt]

Hi,

the subject shows that I have no clue where to look :-)

My problem is this: my ~/.fetchmailrc specifies four different
accounts to poll mail from. When I´m running fetchmail by hand, all
four accounts are polled, like it should.

I have a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d that looks like this:

| #!/bin/sh -e
| ## This script is run when the ppp link goes up.
| 
| echo "Fetchmail starting..." > /dev/console
| 
| fetchmail -vvv -a 2> /dev/console
| 
| echo "Fetchmail ready." > /dev/console

Now, when I go online and this script is run automatically, fetchmail
only queries the first of my four accounts! (I can observe this because
I´m sending the fetcmail output to /dev/console).

Has anyone an idea why this is?
My system is a plain slink in this part, fetchmail is version 4.6.4.

TIA,
  Colin

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Re: PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(

[John Miskinis]

Hi,

That makes sense, I can see where /dev/modem is useful once things
are working.  I did remember seeing a note somewhere (I've been
up all night reading stuff, I forget where) where they discouraged
the use of /dev/modem, and /dev/mouse however!

I'm still accepting recommendations for slink-compatible browsers.
I just grabbed "Mosaic" but it is complaining about the lack of
"libXt.so.6".  And the darn link is there (to libXt.so.6.0) on my
system.  This might be related to a warning I get when running
ldconfig, as I have pending configurations of libwraster stuff from
a failed attempt of installing dev versions of things without the
required non-dev versions.  (Another story, yet to be resumed).

John

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Re: quicktime4 player for linux?

[T.V.Gnanasekaran]

Hi again,

> Does xanim not do this?
that's for stored qt files. what about streaming qt like the
one at www.bbcworld.com?

-gnana

Re: fvwm2 question

[Shaul Karl]

> How can I get an xterm to start on a specific virtual desktop in fvwm2?
> 
> I've got this in my init-restart.hook:
> + "I" Exec xterm -xrm "*Page:0 2 1"
> 
> but that doesn't seem to work. I'm using the default Debian system.fvwm2rc
> with one desktop but a 3x3 virtual set up.
> 

[17:35:20 /tmp]$ zcat -A29 7.3 /usr/doc/fvwm/FAQ.gz | tail -n 30
7.3  How to start applications on a page or desk other than the current.

   Use the 'StartsOnDesk' or 'StartsOnPage' style in your .fvwm2rc:

 Style Netscape* StartsOnPage 0 1

   or

 Style Netscape* StartsOnDesk 1

   Any window with a title that begins with 'Netscape' will be placed
   on page 0 1 (desk 1).  You will probably want to use these options
   too:

 GlobalOpts RecaptureHonorsStartsOnPage, CaptureHonorsStartsOnPage

   Note that the GlobalOpts command will be removed some day in the
   future and this options will become style flags.

--

7.4  How to start applications on a page or desk other than the current
 without moving the viewport to the new page or desk.

   Use the SkipMapping style:

 Style Netscape* StartsOnPage 0 1, SkipMapping

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Re: quicktime4 player for linux?

[Jor-el]

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, T.V.Gnanasekaran wrote:

> any player that can play qt4 and the qt4 streaming media?
> -gnana
> 2.2.13|potato
> 
Hi,

Does xanim not do this?

Regards,
Jor-el 

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A four-wheeled vehicle that runs up hills and down pedestrians.

Re: printing multi-page tiff image

[Brian Potkin]

On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 09:10:42PM +, Shao Zhang wrote:

> Hi,
>   Is there an easy to print a multi-page tiff image?
>   tiff2ps seems only convert the first page.

>From man tiff2ps

-a Generate  output  for all IFDs (pages) in the input
  file.

I have just tried

$ tiff2ps -a Fax.tif > file

and it worked for me when viewing `file' with gv.  It also
converted a 52k file into 1,900k!

Regards,

Brian.

Re: read-only file system

[Jean Pierre LeJacq]

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, T.V.Gnanasekaran wrote:

> >mount
>  /dev/sda11 on /usr type ext2 (ro)
> 
> > To change to read/write see the man page for mount.
> did it, now i have remounted. I should check fstab file
> before I down the machine just to make sure it is not
> mounted with 'ro' again.

Actually, I would encourage you to keep this ro.  There's typically
no reason to write into /usr except when installing new
packages.  This provides some extra security and system consistency.

-- 
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Re: Good books to learn python

[Johann Spies]

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Dave Sherohman wrote:

> Joe Block said:
> > I like and still use _Programming Python_ by Mark Lutz.  I hear they
> > came out with _Learning Python_, but haven't read it.
> 
> _Learning Python_ by Mark Lutz & David Ascher is out, I've bought it, but I
> haven't had a chance to read it yet.  Just flipping through it looks good,
> though...

I have both Programming Python and Internet Programming with Python.  I
have read Programming Python first en got IPWP recently.  I am inclined to
like IPWP more.

Johann.


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Re: Latin1 characters...

[Johann Spies]

Did you try the compose-key (cntrl-.) to compose characters like öê etc? 

I should work in the console. If not try another keymap-file from
your kernel sources.  In X I use Cntrl-Scrlck to do the same.

Johann

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Eric G. Miller wrote:

> When writing in Vim in and an X session, I can type use the Alt (Meta)
> key to get special characters into the text, such as »µ£ etc. However,
> if I use VIM at the console, it interprets Alt- behaviour much
> differently. It can display such characters fine, I just can't type them
> in. I'm not sure if this is a VIM specific thing, or a console thing.
> I set my locale info to en_US, and the default console font to iso01.f16
> I suspect it's a difference between X and console, but I must be missing
> something in the configs on how to get the rest of those iso-latin1
> chars.
> 
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Re: Sparc Potato

[Ben Collins]

On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 03:07:06PM +0100, Sven Esbjerg wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Does anyone know what the status of Sparc Potato is? I tried to install it
> last night but it ended up in a conflict between the kernel version (2.2.1)
> and libc6 which needed at least kernel 2.2.7. The latter kernel was not
> available anywhere which made it impossible to install. Furthermore I couldn't
> downgrade to Slink and I ended up installing Slink from scratch.
> Now I'm wondering if the Sparc branch is taken as seriosly as the Intel
> branch. Anyone?
> 
> Btw. The machine was a MicroSparc 4 70MHz.

Yes it is taken very seriously. The 2.2.13 images should be installed now,
check the mirrors again please. As far as the problem you have with the
conflict, it seems you have a sun4m arch, which does have problems with
glibc 2.1 with less than a 2.2.7 kernel. I need to reverify this for
potato release, but all the way through 2.1.2pre, this problem was
evident. Thus we forced a conflict to prevent breaking the system
completely (seems you still had a problem, though I am not sure why).

Note, that you can put libc6 on hold, and just upgrade the rest of the
system. Be assured that all of this will be in the release notes once we
near release.

Ben

Re: PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(

[Martin Fluch]

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Nick Phillips wrote:

> > I noticed that the /dev/modem worked also, but I wanted to be
> > sure that it was using ttyS2 for now.
> 
> Good. /dev/modem is usually a symlink to wherever your modem is, and my
> advice would be to delete it right away - if one program thinks it's using
> /dev/modem, and another thinks it's using /dev/ttyS0 (or whatever /dev/modem
> is linked to), they may get horribly confused.

On laptops with PCMCIA modems I would still recommend to use the 
symlink /dev/modem created by the script /etc/pcmcia/serial upon the
insertion of the PCMCIA modem, since it is NOT garanted, that the modem
will allwas be connected to the same serial port (I have had on my laptop
this problem once or twice). A program relying on the information modem
is always on /dev/ttyS0 (or what ever) will be realy confused, when it is
sodenly not there, and to track down this bug can mean some work.

Martin

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quicktime4 player for linux?

[T.V.Gnanasekaran]

any player that can play qt4 and the qt4 streaming media?
-gnana
2.2.13|potato

Re: Adding a style to TeX

[Jesse Jacobsen]

On 11/06/99, Damon Muller scribbled about "Adding a style to TeX":
> However, I'm at a loss as to how to do this with my slink tetex. I make
> a couple of directories in /usr/local/lib/texmf and put in the required
> files (apacite.bst and apacite.sty). The tetex doc said to run `texhash'
> to update the ls-R file, which I did (as root).

The file /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf must contain a line describing where to
find your "local" TeX directory tree.  I have a line like this:
TEXMFLOCAL = /usr/local/lib/texmf

You can also have local ones that are on a per-user basis, though when
root runs texhash, I don't think it gets each user's directory -- only
when that user runs texhash.  The relevant line in my
/etc/texmf/texmf.cnf:
HOMETEXMF = $HOME/texmf

With that, I'm able to put local additions under /usr/local/lib/texmf
or $HOME/texmf.  Usually I use the former, unless I'm trying something
that I consider very experimental.

> While I'm at it, is there any way to view a compressed dvi file without
> having to decompress it? I have not had any luck with gunzip blah.dvi.gz
> | xdvi (it just pops up xdvi's open dialog box). I presume there is some
> way to do it, but I can't for the life of me work it out.

I ended up writing a little shell script to do it.  I put it in my
user's $HOME/bin directory, which is in the user's path, but you could
also use /usr/local/bin.  I call it zxdvi.  Here it is:

#/bin/sh
TMPFILE="/tmp/xzdvi.$$"
gunzip -c $1 > $TMPFILE
xdvi $TMPFILE
rm $TMPFILE


Happy TeXing!

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Re: read-only file system

[T.V.Gnanasekaran]

Hi Jean,

>mount
 /dev/sda11 on /usr type ext2 (ro)

> and see if this is true.  
yes it is!

> To change to read/write see the man page for mount.
did it, now i have remounted. I should check fstab file
before I down the machine just to make sure it is not
mounted with 'ro' again.

thanks.

-gnana

Re:Booting from floppy slow

[Paul Winkler]

When I first installed slink - I had the same problem.  For some reason
the floppy boot is very slow when you use the supplied boot disk from
slink.

To cure this simply compile the kernel, make a bzImage and copy it to a
floppy.

This solves the problem, the floppy boot will be quite fast.

Others have had this same problem, you are not alone.

Paul Winkler

Re: read-only file system

[Martin Fluch]

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:

> Probably because /usr was mounted readonly.  Try:
> 
>mount
> 
> and see if this is true.  To change to read/write see
> the man page for mount.

mount -o remount,rw /usr

or something like this.


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Re: FAX WITH ISDN

[Alexander P. Barkey]

Ok thx for the informationbut I only got ISDN...Think I'm going to buy a
non PC fax...:(

thx anyway...
Alexander P. Barkey
Hypnotic - Noise
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Paul Huygen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Datum: Samstag, 6. November 1999 15:19
Betreff: Re: FAX WITH ISDN


>"Alexander P. Barkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Is there any server or program which provides FAX with ISDN?
>
>I hate to have to say it, but as far as I know, you cannot fax with
>Linux and an ISDN adapter. It is not a big problem, because you can
>connect a cheap analog modem to a serial port in order to fax in the POTS
>style. The main problem that I have with this situation is, that
>we claim that Linux is a superior OS compared to Windows, but that
>nevertheless Linux is not capable to handle faxes with ISDN, whereas
>Windows is.
>
>Paul Huygen
>
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Re: FAX WITH ISDN

[Paul Huygen]

"Alexander P. Barkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there any server or program which provides FAX with ISDN?

I hate to have to say it, but as far as I know, you cannot fax with
Linux and an ISDN adapter. It is not a big problem, because you can
connect a cheap analog modem to a serial port in order to fax in the POTS
style. The main problem that I have with this situation is, that
we claim that Linux is a superior OS compared to Windows, but that
nevertheless Linux is not capable to handle faxes with ISDN, whereas
Windows is.

Paul Huygen

Sparc Potato

[Sven Esbjerg]

Hi

Does anyone know what the status of Sparc Potato is? I tried to install it
last night but it ended up in a conflict between the kernel version (2.2.1)
and libc6 which needed at least kernel 2.2.7. The latter kernel was not
available anywhere which made it impossible to install. Furthermore I couldn't
downgrade to Slink and I ended up installing Slink from scratch.
Now I'm wondering if the Sparc branch is taken as seriosly as the Intel
branch. Anyone?

Btw. The machine was a MicroSparc 4 70MHz. 

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Re: read-only file system

[Jean Pierre LeJacq]

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, T.V.Gnanasekaran wrote:

> I can't create dir in /usr/doc area. I get:
> 
> genome:/usr/doc# mkdir test
> mkdir: cannot make directory `test': Read-only file system
> genome:/usr/doc# 

Probably because /usr was mounted readonly.  Try:

   mount

and see if this is true.  To change to read/write see
the man page for mount.

-- 
Jean Pierre

read-only file system

[T.V.Gnanasekaran]

Hi,
I upgraded to potato from slink 4-5 days ago.
I can't create dir in /usr/doc area. I get:

genome:/usr/doc# mkdir test
mkdir: cannot make directory `test': Read-only file system
genome:/usr/doc# 

any idea why this behavior?
-gnana

Re: PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(

[Nick Phillips]

> I noticed that the /dev/modem worked also, but I wanted to be
> sure that it was using ttyS2 for now.

Good. /dev/modem is usually a symlink to wherever your modem is, and my
advice would be to delete it right away - if one program thinks it's using
/dev/modem, and another thinks it's using /dev/ttyS0 (or whatever /dev/modem
is linked to), they may get horribly confused.

> I figured it would be best to get the manual connection method
> working first, to ensure everything is OK, before automating...

Indeed. On the subject of automating, I recommend:

options common to *all* possible connections go in /etc/ppp/options

options for any particular connection go in /etc/ppp/peers/connectionname

symbolic link to favourite dialout connection goes in /etc/ppp/peers/provider
(I use /etc/ppp/peers/isp, but I'd got into that habit before I started
using Debian)

pppd command line is never more complicated than "pppd call connectionname"

use PAP authentication if possible - connections will probably happen
at least slightly faster

use pppd's demand dialling rather than diald



Diald is potentially more flexible than pppd for the demand dialling, but
it seems to me that pppd is the "right" place to deal with that, and that
diald is (in my case at least) adding unnecessary complexity.

I also don't use pon and poff - I just start pppd in demand mode from
my startup scripts, and let it be.

Cheers,

Nick

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FAX WITH ISDN

[Alexander P. Barkey]

Is there any server or program which 
provides FAX with ISDN?
 
I need it soon... just upgraded from 
analog to ISDN and now i sit here with no FAX
 
Buisness going on you 
know...
 
thx
Alexander P. Barkey
Hypnotic-Noise

Re: motherboard temperature alarm beeps during screen-saver activity

[Nick Phillips]

> I have a "SuperMicro" motherboard with a temperature alarm. The alarm beeps
> intermittently during screen-saver activity. There is no temperature problem.
> 
> Has anyone seen this?

No, but I've got an ASUS P5a (I think that's the right model no.) that
triggers the alarm when writing to the floppy.

Grrr...


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Re: PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(

[Martin Fluch]

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, John Miskinis wrote:

> I noticed that the /dev/modem worked also, but I wanted to be
> sure that it was using ttyS2 for now.  I am also trying everything
> as root for now.  I tried "pon" but it complained about some things
> that I have not yet configured (in diald?).

About what exactly (btw. pon is not related to diald)? This may be the
small peice missing.

> I figured it would be best to get the manual connection method
> working first, to ensure everything is OK, before automating...

Usualy pon is 'very' manual, just an two lined wraper script to call pppd:

#!/bin/sh
/usr/sbin/pppd call ${1:-provider}

pon/poff is in my oppinion the most easy way to make an ppp connection.

Martin


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Re: October GNOME for slink.

[Nick Phillips]

>   I am trying to install Debian 2.1 in my computer. I have an
> Adaptec 2940U2W SCSI Host adapter and Linux is hanging right after
> detecting it...
> 
>   Any help?!

It's been a while, but so far as I remember, the 2940U2W (AIC7890) is not
supported by the drivers in slink (slink is about the same age as the
AIC7890, give or take), and you'll either need to build a kernel either with
the 7890 drivers patched in, or get one recent enough to support it without
patching.

Unfortunately this makes booting from the slink CD rather difficult. When
I did it, I installed onto an IDE disk, built a kernel to suit the 7890,
used cpio to copy the system over onto the SCSI drive, set LILO up, and
finally removed the IDE drive. If you can't manage it any other way, I'm
sure someone will be able to send you a boot floppy or two...

If anyone else has any better ideas...


Cheers,


Nick

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PPP working now! Recommended browsers for slink?

[John Miskinis]

Hi,

Wow!  It was as simple as adding the "defaultroute" line in my
/etc/ppp/options file!  Many thanks!

I tried to send this message using gzilla (from slink), but it
chokes on pages that are too complex.  (It doesn't even show me the 
navigation buttons in HOWTOs!)


SO, now I am looking for recommendations on downloading a browser
that will run under slink.  I figured since it will be a BIG download
I would be best to ask for advise first.  This will also help people
who look at the mailing list archives I hope.

I checked out the "mozilla" that was on the slink CD a while back,
but I kept getting error dialogs in many of the configuration panels,
and I ended up using gzilla to read local files instead.

I do not wish to start a "browser war", I just want to avoid a big
download that will have problems running on slink!

I can't tell you how happy I am to be able to connect to the net
via linux.  This is one of the last pieces of a puzzle I was not
even sure would "fit" on my IBM Thinkpad 560!

John



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Re: Adding a style to TeX

[David Z. Maze]

Damon Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DM> While I'm at it, is there any way to view a compressed dvi file without
DM> having to decompress it? I have not had any luck with gunzip blah.dvi.gz
DM> | xdvi (it just pops up xdvi's open dialog box). I presume there is some
DM> way to do it, but I can't for the life of me work it out.

gunzip normally decompresses a file to another file; nothing is
printed on standard output.  The correct incant is probably something
closer to 'gunzip -c file.dvi.gz | xdvi -', but I'm not sure if xdvi
can read from standard input or not.  (I suspect it doesn't.)  More
useful, I've found, is Debian's 'see' command, which feeds a file
through appropriate filters and viewers based on its MIME type to be
able to see it.  It's in the mime-support package on my potato box;
I'd run 'see foo.dvi.gz' to be able to view a gzipped DVI file.

DM> 
DM> Cheers,
DM> 
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Re: PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(

[John Miskinis]

Hi,

I noticed that the /dev/modem worked also, but I wanted to be
sure that it was using ttyS2 for now.  I am also trying everything
as root for now.  I tried "pon" but it complained about some things
that I have not yet configured (in diald?).

I figured it would be best to get the manual connection method
working first, to ensure everything is OK, before automating...

John

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Re: PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(

[Nick Phillips]

> Anyone have any clues as to why the default route is not setup?

Either at the command line, or in one of its config files, pppd needs
the "defaultroute" option to tell it to make the ppp link the default
route.

BTW, don't be happy to leave it as it is (starting ppp manually once
connected) - it won't be too difficult to automate it...


Good luck...

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Re: PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(

[Martin Fluch]

It is quite a long time ago, I used a PCMCIA modem, but as far as I
remember, it was quit easy to get it work:

In order to make it possible, that non root user can initiate a ppp
conection, add the desired user to the group 'dip'

adduser username dip

In the file /etc/pcmcia/serial.opts the lines

# Symbolic link to dialout device
LINK="/dev/modem"
# Options for 'setserial'
SERIAL_OPTS="spd_vhi"

say, that the symbolic link /dev/modem is created on insertion of the card
to the right /dev/ttyS? device. So you always can reffer to /dev/modem as
your modem (pppconfig) regardless which /dev/ttyS? the modem is actually
connected (this may change). I've added the spd_vhi option, since I have a
56k modem...

Than run pppconfig. After done this successfully, you can initiate a ppp
connection with

pon

and shut it down with

poff

more can be found in the man pages...

Martin


On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, John Miskinis wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have recently aquired a PPP-based ISP, in hopes to get linux
> network connectivity.  I have been working with the PPP howto, and
> got PPP somewhat working.
> 
> I am stuck at the point where a "route -n" only shows ONE ppp0
> connection, where the howto says it should show TWO.  I am able
> to ping the IP address of the remote machine OK.  I am not able
> to do anything else though.  No default route "stuff" shows up, and
> I'm wondering if the debian distribution sets up something that I
> must change.
> 
> I am using a PCMCIA-based modem, connecting manually through minicom
> and specifying my username and password.  I then quit minicom leaving
> the modem connected, and run "pppd -d -detach /dev/ttyS2 57600".
> 
> When I ran "pppconfig" it put the 2 DNS server numbers in OK, but
> according to the howto, there should be a "domain ISP_DOMAIN_NAME"
> line before them, and I don't know the name, or if it is needed.
> 
> I can post more info,, but I do not know where to start.
> 
> Anyone have any clues as to why the default route is not setup?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John
> 
> 
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PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(

[John Miskinis]

Hello,

I have recently aquired a PPP-based ISP, in hopes to get linux
network connectivity.  I have been working with the PPP howto, and
got PPP somewhat working.

I am stuck at the point where a "route -n" only shows ONE ppp0
connection, where the howto says it should show TWO.  I am able
to ping the IP address of the remote machine OK.  I am not able
to do anything else though.  No default route "stuff" shows up, and
I'm wondering if the debian distribution sets up something that I
must change.

I am using a PCMCIA-based modem, connecting manually through minicom
and specifying my username and password.  I then quit minicom leaving
the modem connected, and run "pppd -d -detach /dev/ttyS2 57600".

When I ran "pppconfig" it put the 2 DNS server numbers in OK, but
according to the howto, there should be a "domain ISP_DOMAIN_NAME"
line before them, and I don't know the name, or if it is needed.

I can post more info,, but I do not know where to start.

Anyone have any clues as to why the default route is not setup?

Thanks,

John


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Re: Compiling ATA/66 support into the kernel?

[Ookhoi]

> >> use 2.3.x kernel for ata/66
> > Does it support booting off a ata/66 drive?  The patches for 2.2.13 say
> > that booting off of ata/66 drive is not supported.
> 
> The driver author made a mistake.  You can boot off drives connected to
> the HPT366 controller.  Take a look here:
> 
>   http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~b6506063/hpt366/
> 
> However I still suggest you connect your disk to the UDMA/33 channels
> for the time being, because /dev/hde to /dev/hdh do not exist on the
> boot floppies, thus there will be no easy way installing Debian on to
> a disk on HPT366.

I installed Debian with the new bootfloppies on the HPT366 controller.
You just open the second virtual console, fdisk the /dev/hde, mkfs it,
and mount the partitions. Then go back to console 1, choose unmount, say
cancel there (you see them mounted) and you can go on with the install. Why
don't the boot floppies support /dev/hde and up?

Ookhoi

Re: Lynx and .deb

[J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)]

On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 04:54:03 -0500, root wrote:
[Why are debs being downloaded as text]

> I have pored through the docs but cannot seem to find out where I can tell
> Lynx that when downloading a .deb file it should NOT download it as text.
> ;)  does this have to do with system mime types, etc,

On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 05:43:24 -0500, Todd Suess wrote:
> Yup, it goes to a deb file, and there is an entry for deb in
> /etc/mime.types for a deb listing it as a debian package file,

True, but not really relevant. The MIME type returned by the server
determines if the client sees the deb as text or not. Contact the server
admins and have them add entries to mime.types.

Ray
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Re: Lynx and .deb

[Todd Suess]

Yup, it goes to a deb file, and there is an entry for deb in
/etc/mime.types for a deb listing it as a debian package file,
but perhaps that is not explicit enough for lynx, which insists on
downloading them as content: text

-Todd



On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, Jan Ludewig wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 04:54:03AM -0500, root wrote:
> > I have used lynx for a while but am not familiar with it's advanced
> > functionality, I have pored through the docs but cannot seem to find
> > out where I can tell Lynx that when downloading a .deb file it should
> > NOT download it as text.  ;)  does this have to do with system mime
> > types, etc, or is there something I can add to lynx.cfg that will let
> > it know that .debs are binary?   Thanks!
> switch to advanced mode ( "O" to get to the options) to see wether the
> link really goes to a deb-file
> type "d" for download
> 
> or define it as a mime-type ;)
> 
> Jan

Re: [root: Cron run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily]

[Martin Fluch]

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Marco Giardini wrote:

> who can please let me know the origin of this and the solution?
> Thanks
> 
> marco
> - Forwarded message from Cron Daemon  -
> 
> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 06:25:03 +0100
> From: root (Cron Daemon)
> To: root
> Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
> 
> /etc/cron.daily/cracklib:
> 45375 45375

I had this bug in slink, too, but it disapared in potato...

> /etc/cron.daily/suidmanager:
> File /usr/lib/emacs/19.34/i386-debian-linux/movemail registered but not 
> installed
> File /usr/lib/emacs/20.3/i386-debian-linux-gnu/movemail registered but not 
> installed

suidunregister /usr/lib/emacs/19.34/i386-debian-linux/movemail
suidunregister /usr/lib/emacs/20.3/i386-debian-linux-gnu/movemail

should help to get rid of the stale entries in /etc/suid.conf.

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printing multi-page tiff image

[Shao Zhang]

Hi,
Is there an easy to print a multi-page tiff image?
tiff2ps seems only convert the first page.

Imagemagick can be used manually to save each page, but I need
something that automatically converts it to a ps file.

Thanks in advance.
Shao.

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Lynx and .deb

[root]

I have used lynx for a while but am not familiar with it's advanced
functionality, I have pored through the docs but cannot seem to find
out where I can tell Lynx that when downloading a .deb file it should
NOT download it as text.  ;)  does this have to do with system mime
types, etc, or is there something I can add to lynx.cfg that will let
it know that .debs are binary?   Thanks!

Todd

Latin1 characters...

[Eric G. Miller]

When writing in Vim in and an X session, I can type use the Alt (Meta)
key to get special characters into the text, such as »µ£ etc. However,
if I use VIM at the console, it interprets Alt- behaviour much
differently. It can display such characters fine, I just can't type them
in. I'm not sure if this is a VIM specific thing, or a console thing.
I set my locale info to en_US, and the default console font to iso01.f16
I suspect it's a difference between X and console, but I must be missing
something in the configs on how to get the rest of those iso-latin1
chars.

[root: Cron run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily]

[Marco Giardini]

who can please let me know the origin of this and the solution?
Thanks

marco
- Forwarded message from Cron Daemon  -

Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 06:25:03 +0100
From: root (Cron Daemon)
To: root
Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily

/etc/cron.daily/cracklib:
45375 45375
/etc/cron.daily/suidmanager:
File /usr/lib/emacs/19.34/i386-debian-linux/movemail registered but not 
installed
File /usr/lib/emacs/20.3/i386-debian-linux-gnu/movemail registered but not 
installed

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why does gdomap scan the net?

[Alexander N. Benner]

Hi

The GNUstep prg. gdomap (from gstep-base) scans every 5 min the local net.

I found a reference in the GNUstep-HOWTO that it has something to do with
shared objects which seems to be semi important.

What I don't understand is what the scan is for and how to restrict it.
The HOWTO tells something about a configfile '/etc/gdomap_addresses' which
does not exist.

I'd rather prefere not to get 254 udp packages plus 253 'hostunreachable' icmp
packages every 5 min (plus the syslog telling me about them)

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Re: gz file??

[T.V.Gnanasekaran]

Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I am new to Unix.  Please tell me what is the difference between unix and
> window 98?  
There are a LOT of differences. However, I leave to other expert users
to
explain in briefly.

Can i use gz file in window 98?  where I could download the file
> to unzip gz file?  thanks
yes, winzip will handle both .gz and .tar formats which are common
in unix software distributions. You can get winzip at 
http://www.winzip.com

-gnana

Re: Using dselect thru a firewall

[T.V.Gnanasekaran]

Hi Tim,

Tim Ayers wrote:
> 
> Is there a way to set up dselect to do FTP access thru a proxy? Thank
> you.
YES!! look into /etc/apt/apt.conf config file. There is proxy settings
for
http, ftp apt-get methods.
 
> Hope you have a very nice day, :-)
same to you!

-gnana

IP Aliasing on slink/2.2.12

[Damon Muller]

Hi gang,

I've got a pretty base slink install with a few additions (all the
proposed updates, and some stuff from netgod), for which I have compiled
a cusom 2.2.12 kernel.

I have IP alias support compiled into the kernel:

callisto% grep ALIAS  /usr/src/linux/.config
CONFIG_IP_ALIAS=y

However, when I try and create an alias, according to the ifconfig
output, it has been created, but it wont respond to a ping or any sort
of connection attempt expect from itself. I can create an IP alias in
exactly the same way on the RedHat 5.2 box with a 2.2.x kernel sitting
next to it and ping it immediately from anywhere on the network. The
same thing doesn't work on the Debian box, however. The pings do not
even show up in the iplog syslog entries.

There are no firewall rules, IPChains rules, or anything unusual like
that running on the box.

dpkg -l netbase gives the following:

ii  netbase 3.12-2 Basic TCP/IP networking binaries

I should note that this machine's primary eth0 IP address works file (I'm
using SSH to connect to it as I speak).

This has got me stumped! We want to replace our RedHat server with a
Debian one, as it's a lot easier for me to admin a Debian box. But
unless I can work this out, I'm up sh*t creek!

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

cheers,

damon

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Using dselect thru a firewall

[Tim Ayers]

Is there a way to set up dselect to do FTP access thru a proxy? Thank
you.

Hope you have a very nice day, :-)
Tim Ayers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Adding a style to TeX

[Damon Muller]

Hi Folks,

I have a mostly-slink-with-some-potato system, using the slink version
of teTeX. I've recently been playing around with using BiBTeX for a
bibliography for a paper that I'm writing, which is the first time I
have ever used BiBTeX. I found a style called apacite, which is exactly
what I need to do my references the way they need to be formatted
(following the Publication Manual of the American Psychological
Association).

At work I have MikTeX set up, which is a TeX distribution for Windoze
(as I am cursed with an NT Box). To set up apacite at work I just had to
copy the relevent *.sty and *.bst files into the localtexmf directory,
run a program to update TeX, and it worked wonderfully.

However, I'm at a loss as to how to do this with my slink tetex. I make
a couple of directories in /usr/local/lib/texmf and put in the required
files (apacite.bst and apacite.sty). The tetex doc said to run `texhash'
to update the ls-R file, which I did (as root).

When I try and run latex on my paper, I get the following error:

! Undefined control sequence.
l.111 \citeA
{easteal-93}.  Yet while technically accurate, such a
definition

Which suggests to me that the apacite package isn't being used. It also
is not mentioned at the top of the tex output.

Can anyone suggest what I might have missed? The exact same files work
perfectly on my NT box at work.

While I'm at it, is there any way to view a compressed dvi file without
having to decompress it? I have not had any luck with gunzip blah.dvi.gz
| xdvi (it just pops up xdvi's open dialog box). I presume there is some
way to do it, but I can't for the life of me work it out.

Cheers,

damon
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Re: what a hack (dselect solution)

[Frank Copeland]

Aaron Solochek wrote:
>Ok, as regular readers probably know, I was having problems with
>dselect.  It was complaing about not finding
>/usr/share/debconf/confmodule or something similar.  There was a
>/usr/share/debconf/confmodule.sh, so I decided, to cp that file leaving
>out the .sh, to appease dselect.  It seems to have worked, WTF?  What
>did I do?  why would this problem have surfaced in the first place.  Was
>it just checking for the existance of that file, and not actually
>reading or writing it?

I thought about symlinking confmodule to confmodule.sh, but instead I
upgraded debconf by hand, ie - 'apt-get install debconf'. That installed the
proper confmodule script, and 'apt-get dselect-upgrade' finished the job
without any more trouble. The problem seems to be packages requiring a more
recent version of debconf not having a proper versioned dependancy.

Frank

Re: Compiling ATA/66 support into the kernel?

[b6506063]

Sudhakar Chandrasekharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> aphro proclaimed:
>> use 2.3.x kernel for ata/66
> Does it support booting off a ata/66 drive?  The patches for 2.2.13 say
> that booting off of ata/66 drive is not supported.

The driver author made a mistake.  You can boot off drives connected to
the HPT366 controller.  Take a look here:

  http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~b6506063/hpt366/

However I still suggest you connect your disk to the UDMA/33 channels
for the time being, because /dev/hde to /dev/hdh do not exist on the
boot floppies, thus there will be no easy way installing Debian on to
a disk on HPT366.

-- Chuan-kai Lin

Re: Sharing apt-gets cache dir

[Brian May]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>I have a shared atp archive working successfully.  I too had the
>same problem of not being able to do anything with the lock file
>through the NFS share.  So I assumed that I couldnt get around
>this easily so avoided the problem by creating a link from the
>NFS share back to the local filespace.

Not sure if this is the same...

apt-get works fine for me on my diskless NFS-Root computers. Perhaps
it is because I use the "nolock" option? Or perhaps it is because I am
using the user level NFS server, and not the kernel level NFS server?

The only problem I have had is the slink version of apt-get which cannot
move files after it downloads them - this has been fixed in the potato
version.

I have never tried using the cache directory by multiple computers.
-- 
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Printers..

[Colin Marquardt]

* David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> driver. Someone needs to write a GPL'ed ghostscript windows printer
>> driver(maybe it already exists?).

> I'm interested in this too, as I have a linux box serving an HP 895
> to an NT box as well as other linuxes. I actually use the HP 895
> driver, but I had to trick NT into install it. What I did was to

Not GPL of course, but Adobe has a generic PS printer driver for NT
on their pages. It is reported to produce clean PS, which is rather
seldom :-). Searching through Deja in comp.text.tex should bring up
the URL rather quickly (it´s some version 5.x). I don´t know if this
also available for 95/98.

HTH,
  Colin

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