Re: Please tell me this is curable...

[aphro]

im no data recovery expert but chances are good that the files are gone,
tar doesnt have good(if any) file recover capabilities .. gzip does but
recovering data from a gzip file is a long and boring process, usually it
just writes the blocks of data to individual files leaving it up to you to
sort it out..which can be VERY complicated

if the data is _that_ important, and nobody else on the list can help it
may be possible to contact a commercial agency to assist in the recovery
of the data(costs could go into the thousands easy though)

nate

On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Patrick wrote:

patric >On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 02:16:38PM -0800, aphro wrote:
patric >> try using the command:
patric >> 
patric >> file 
patric >> 
patric >> to determine what kind of file it is..
patric >> 
patric >> it may be curropted..
patric >
patric >Thanks.  The big q is what's the recovery procedure?
patric >> 
patric >> nate
patric >> 
patric >> On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Patrick wrote:
patric >> 
patric >> patric >Over the weekend, I took my trusty server which had multiple 
partitions and swap files for RH, SuSE, NT and Debian and turned the whole 
thing over to Debian.
patric >> patric >
patric >> patric >Naturally, I backed up 4 Gigs of data first using tar czvf.  
Did a few tests and all seemed to work as tar xzvf recreated the files.
patric >> patric >
patric >> patric >Now its not working as when I ftp the data in from NT, I get 
this:
patric >> patric >
patric >> patric >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tar xzvf datstore
patric >> patric >tar: This does not look like a tar archive
patric >> patric >tar: Skipping to next header
patric >> patric >
patric >> patric >gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
patric >> patric >tar: Child returned status 1
patric >> patric >tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
patric >> patric >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
patric >> patric >
patric >> patric >
patric >> patric >There's several thousand important files at stake here...can 
anyone tell me how to recover them?
patric >> patric >
patric >> patric >Please...
patric >> patric >
patric >> patric >Patrick
patric >> patric >
patric >> patric >
patric >> patric >
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linus distribution

[Emilio Gerardo Milian]

Hello:

My name is Emilio Milian, I teach computer classes at South San
Francisco Adult Education Center, at 825 Southwood Dr, South San
Francisco.

I plan/intend to teach a quick 4 week/basic course to my Windows
students about Linux. This will be schedule for about April of this
year.

Can you help me with this by suggesting a distro/books to use? Providing
a guest speaker or installation support?

You can see our class schedules at:
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Re: IDE Harddisk problem

[Paul J. Keenan]

On Tue, Jan 25, 2000 at 12:13:48AM +0100, Karl Philipp wrote:
> Hello Debian Users,
> 
> I've a computer with a SCSI harddisk and a IDE 10GB Harddisk.
> 
> Last Sunday I installed Debian Release 2.1 on my PC.
> The Linux partitions are on the SCSI harddisk.
> The IDE harddisk provides VFAT partitions.
> 
> Debian Linux isn't able to find the VFAT partitions of the IDE harddisk.
> 

> 
> The BIOS-Configuration of my PhoenixBIOS for the IDE harddisk:
> 
>  Type:  [Auto]
>  Cylinders: [16383]
>  Heads: [ 16]
>  Sectors/Track (CHS/LBA):   8455/10141 MByte
> 
>  Transfer Mode: [16 Sectors]
>  LBA Translation[Enabled]
>  LBA Translation Mode   [LBA]
>  PIO Mode   [PIO 4/DMA 2]
>  32 Bit I/O [Enabled]
> 
> Who knows a solution for this problem?
> 
> greetings
> 
>  Karl Philipp

Try 'hdparm /dev/hda' to see what Linux thinks of the device.  It may
give some useful diagnostics.  The worrying this about the log is the
"Can't read partition table" part (I get DMA timeout errors with my
disk, but it works fine).  

Also try 'cfdisk /dev/hda2', which is the curses-based disk partition 
editor.  If the partition table is truly corrupt, you may be able to 
save the disk if you know where the partitions should start and end 
by inputting the information and re-writing the partition table to 
the disk.

Do the VFAT partitions boot into Windoze OK ?

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Re: hmph

[Vamprys ...]

How did I know Offspring was going to have something at the end of 
their

last song.


Ok, which album and song?  If it's their first album (smash) then yeah, I 
love the ending to track 14  dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum..  
Can't recall what the ending is to their Americana CD.  hum...

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Re: Lilo ?

[Paul J. Keenan]

On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 02:57:16PM -0800, cedric wrote:
> Bought Debian from LInuxMall and it came with a free RH 6.1
> CD. I decided to update from RH60 to 6.1 first. Every thing
> went fine during the install and setup. Now, LILO does not
> work. When I enter 'dos' at the LILO prompt nothing happens.
> It just sits there and I have to reboot. I would like to
> solve this before installing Debian.
> 
> Any ideas on how to solve this?

Boot into Linux.  Check /etc/lilo.conf matches your set-up and change as
required.  Run lilo to reinstall it on the boot record of you disk.
Reboot and try 'dos' at the prompt.

Any additional problems and you'll have to describe your disk set-up, 
what you want to happen, and any error messages from lilo you get.

HTH.

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new to debian...

[Jim Kannengieser]

Hi. I just installed debian on my pc last night (converting from rh
6.1). I downloaded an iso image of the latest stable version (slink
2.1r4). Installation was a snap. I like it, even if it is less colorful
that red hat's latest installer. Because I wasn't sure of frequency of
debian updates and the names of the various versions, I did not download
potato. Now I would like to, but can't find an iso image. Does anyone know
where I can find one? downloading potato (any ditro, really) in piecemeal
is p a i n f u l.

TIA,
Jim

Re: Please tell me this is curable...

[Henrique M Holschuh]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Patrick wrote:
> Thanks.  The big q is what's the recovery procedure?

Fixing by hand or writing a tool do to so. But hunt the net first, someone
might have done it already.

Let's supose your file got corrupted by a ASCII upload from UNIX -> NT.

First, you must guarantee that you're downloading the file back to UNIX in
BINARY mode so as not to make matters worse. Then you use some clues to get
the bytes right again. Sometimes it can be automated, but most of the time
not. And you WILL have to write the code to do so.

If you uploaded stuff from Unix to M$dog-like systems (NT, Win9x...) in
ASCII mode, AFAIK the corruption is that every 0A0D pair in the input stream
(the corrupted file) *might* be either 0A0D or 0A only.

You could write code that uses heuristics to read in the tar file, use the
offsets, file size, headers and CRC (if there is one) from the tar file
itself (as long as it does not contain a 0A0D in there... :-( ) to extract
the corrupted chunk which should be one file, then apply all possible
transformations (reduced by the heuristicts. E.g.: if you have the original
file size, you know how many bytes were corrupted, and that reduces the set
of possible valid 'fixes') and use the CRC to verify if the 'fixed' file is
correct.

Text files are trivial to fix. They're not even too badly screwed up, just
tar can't find them because the offsets in the tar headers are wrong. A
program to repair this kind of damage probably exists already.

If your data is very important and this type of data recovery is a bit above
your current time/knowledge constrains, you'll find someone who can do that
for you, but it may not come cheap.

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  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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Re: Lilo ?

[Robert L. Harris]

I had the same problem.  Basically what happened is I had
one version of lilo on /dev/hda that pointed "dos" to /dev/hda1,
but I had accidently installed lilo on /dev/hda also, pointing
to /dev/hda1, so I had a nice little loop going.

Try and do "lilo -u" against both /dev/hda and /dev/hda1, then
re-install against just /dev/hda and see how it goes.

Robert

Thus spake cedric ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Bought Debian from LInuxMall and it came with a free RH 6.1
> CD. I decided to update from RH60 to 6.1 first. Every thing
> went fine during the install and setup. Now, LILO does not
> work. When I enter 'dos' at the LILO prompt nothing happens.
> It just sits there and I have to reboot. I would like to
> solve this before installing Debian.
> 
> Any ideas on how to solve this?
> 
> I know, I know, be glad I'm rid of Windoze and that is my
> goal. But, as a writer of fiction I need Windoze in order
> to print because my printer does not work with Linux, yet.
> 
> Any one know how to get a Brother HL-720 working?
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Trying to solve more than one problem at once insures
> failure.
> 
> 
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IDE Harddisk problem

[Karl Philipp]

Hello Debian Users,

I've a computer with a SCSI harddisk and a IDE 10GB Harddisk.

Last Sunday I installed Debian Release 2.1 on my PC.
The Linux partitions are on the SCSI harddisk.
The IDE harddisk provides VFAT partitions.

Debian Linux isn't able to find the VFAT partitions of the IDE harddisk.

Take a look at the abstract of the logfile /var/kern.log:

> ...
> ... : ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57
> ... :
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfcf0-0xfcf7
> ... : hda: IBM-DTTA-351010, 9671MB w/466kB
Cache, CHS=5353/237/193, UDMA
> ... : ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14

> ...
> ... : SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 1785 [8715
MB][8.7 GB]
> ... : Partition check:
> ... :  sda: sda1 sda2 < sda5 sda6
sda7 sda8 sda9 sda10 sda11 sda12 > sda3 sda4
> ... :  hda:hda: irq timeout:
status=0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete }
> ... : hda: irq timeout:
status=0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete }
> ... data last message repeated 2
times
> ... : hda: disabled DMA
> ... : ide0: reset: success
> ... : hda:
irq timeout: status=0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete }
> ... data last
message repeated 2 times
> ... : hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
> ... : ide0: reset: success
> ... : hda: irq
timeout: status=0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete }
> ... : end_request: I/O
error, dev 03:00, sector 0
> ... :  unable to read partition table
> ... :
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
> ...

The BIOS-Configuration of my PhoenixBIOS for the IDE harddisk:

 Type:  [Auto]
 Cylinders: [16383]
 Heads: [ 16]
 Sectors/Track (CHS/LBA):   8455/10141 MByte

 Transfer Mode: [16 Sectors]
 LBA Translation[Enabled]
 LBA Translation Mode   [LBA]
 PIO Mode   [PIO 4/DMA 2]
 32 Bit I/O [Enabled]

Who knows a solution for this problem?

greetings

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hang at syslogd

[Roy Pluschke]

The other day my system got inadvertantly reset (happens weekly around
here with all the kids) and when I rebooted the system went through
the normal fsck, deleting inodes etc. but when it got to starting
syslogd (I believe runlevel 2?) it just hung.  Rebooting again (where
it hang) and all went normally. This is reproducable -- that is if
I incorrectly shut down the system apon reboot it always hangs at
loading syslogd -- but never happened before. I am running potato
updated as of yesterday. Is this a problem with the init scripts?
has anybody else noticed this?

Roy Pluschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Lilo ?

[cedric]

Bought Debian from LInuxMall and it came with a free RH 6.1
CD. I decided to update from RH60 to 6.1 first. Every thing
went fine during the install and setup. Now, LILO does not
work. When I enter 'dos' at the LILO prompt nothing happens.
It just sits there and I have to reboot. I would like to
solve this before installing Debian.

Any ideas on how to solve this?

I know, I know, be glad I'm rid of Windoze and that is my
goal. But, as a writer of fiction I need Windoze in order
to print because my printer does not work with Linux, yet.

Any one know how to get a Brother HL-720 working?


[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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failure.

Re: xconsole "couldn't open console"

[Chanop Silpa-Anan]

Some what recently, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote about xconsole "couldn't open console"

>:) After an apt-get upgrade (using potato) attempts to open xconsole
>:) show the above error.  I can't pinpoint the exact time of the problem
>:) because with Linux I went weeks between boots, and it's started by my
>:) .Xsession.
>:) 
>:) I tried looking up the problem in the Debian-User archives, but
>:) unfortunately the search engine on www.debian.org is still broken.
>:) 
>:) I've played with permissions on xconsole.real (currently root.root),
>:) but every attempt to start the program still gives the above error. 
>:) 
>:) Is there a console-mode equivalent of xconsole?
>:) 
>:) Thanks in advance for any help.
I think in potato the permisson for /dev/xconsole which is read by xconsole by

xconsole -file /dev/xconsole is root.adm, make sure that you are in adm group.


Chanop


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Re: Please tell me this is curable...

[Patrick]

On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 02:16:38PM -0800, aphro wrote:
> try using the command:
> 
> file 
> 
> to determine what kind of file it is..
> 
> it may be curropted..

Thanks.  The big q is what's the recovery procedure?
> 
> nate
> 
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Patrick wrote:
> 
> patric >Over the weekend, I took my trusty server which had multiple 
> partitions and swap files for RH, SuSE, NT and Debian and turned the whole 
> thing over to Debian.
> patric >
> patric >Naturally, I backed up 4 Gigs of data first using tar czvf.  Did a 
> few tests and all seemed to work as tar xzvf recreated the files.
> patric >
> patric >Now its not working as when I ftp the data in from NT, I get this:
> patric >
> patric >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tar xzvf datstore
> patric >tar: This does not look like a tar archive
> patric >tar: Skipping to next header
> patric >
> patric >gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
> patric >tar: Child returned status 1
> patric >tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
> patric >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> patric >
> patric >
> patric >There's several thousand important files at stake here...can anyone 
> tell me how to recover them?
> patric >
> patric >Please...
> patric >
> patric >Patrick
> patric >
> patric >
> patric >
> patric >
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Re: downloading

[Raphael Clancy]

There are two ways (at least) to do this, if you have a fast connection 1 
megabit orfaster, you can just download the base floppies, and install those, 
they will launch a program called apt-get which will grab and configure the 
files you need. alternate ly, if if you are on a slower connection, but have 
access to a faster connection and a cd burrner you can make Debian CDs (though 
I've never made that work...)

alternately... you could buy a CD, they're cheap and usualy error free. I just 
got the Debian/O'reily/SGI box it was $19 and came with a cool O'reily book 
which would be really helpfull especialy if you're just starting out.

R. 

>>> "Gavin Schuette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/24/00 03:33PM >>>
I want to download the debian operating system for a pentium processor,
what should I do?
I have tried the ftp site from my netscape browser and cliked on slink
and it downloads a list of files only?
Where is the link I clik to download the operating system itself?
I would love to put it on my home computer.


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downloading

[Gavin Schuette]

I want to download the debian operating system for a pentium processor,
what should I do?
I have tried the ftp site from my netscape browser and cliked on slink
and it downloads a list of files only?
Where is the link I clik to download the operating system itself?
I would love to put it on my home computer.

Re: Please tell me this is curable...

[aphro]

try using the command:

file 

to determine what kind of file it is..

it may be curropted..

nate

On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Patrick wrote:

patric >Over the weekend, I took my trusty server which had multiple partitions 
and swap files for RH, SuSE, NT and Debian and turned the whole thing over to 
Debian.
patric >
patric >Naturally, I backed up 4 Gigs of data first using tar czvf.  Did a few 
tests and all seemed to work as tar xzvf recreated the files.
patric >
patric >Now its not working as when I ftp the data in from NT, I get this:
patric >
patric >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tar xzvf datstore
patric >tar: This does not look like a tar archive
patric >tar: Skipping to next header
patric >
patric >gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
patric >tar: Child returned status 1
patric >tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
patric >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
patric >
patric >
patric >There's several thousand important files at stake here...can anyone 
tell me how to recover them?
patric >
patric >Please...
patric >
patric >Patrick
patric >
patric >
patric >
patric >
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Anyone have luck with Krash (KDE2)?

[Bart Szyszka]

Hi,

Has anyone here had any luck with getting Krash/KDE2 to work? I'm
looking for someone who can stay with me for an hour or two on ICQ
and help me try to get it working. I've been planning on developing KDE2
themes for a while and will have some extra time for the next week or
so. Any takers? My ICQ number is 4982727. 

If you're very good with Debian or KDE (i.e. you might know a little
more about KDE development than someone who just looks up the
news at www.kde.org ) or both I wouldn't mind receiving a message
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Re: GnomeICU dies

[Ron Farrer]

Christopher C. Chimelis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Unfortunately, this is something that I haven't been able to track down in
> ages.  I got one of them to work AWHILE ago, but have since lost the
> patches in my machine migration (from a UDB to an SX164).  Has anyone else
> been working on this?  If not, I guess I can try to mess with it more once
> I'm done with some other freeze-related stuff.  Either that or we should
> have this package removed from the Alpha dist until we can get it working.

FYI licq also dies with:

X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
  Major opcode:  134
Aborted

I'm running potato (updated today, 2000-01-24) and they both still die. 


Regards,

Ron

Re: I've got sound!

[Martin Bishop]

David J. Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've only played an mp3; I'm still trying to figure out xfreecd.
> 
> But it sounds fine. I haven't cranked it, but at a moderate volume it sounds
> good. Definitely tell your friend to give it a try. I agree: don't pay the
> $20 for 4Front's drivers.
> 
> It was really easy to set up too. make install and all of a sudden my
> speakers "popped," which I'd never heard in Linux before. That was a good
> "pop" by the way; they were turning on.
> -- 
> David J. Kanter
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

Since Aureal's new driver is not a regular deb package, is it easy to
remove it from the system?

And what about the ALSA driver? Can it exists with Aureal's new driver? 

Thanks,
 MB.

Re: Locate question

[Paul J. Keenan]

On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 10:13:42PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Sometime during updates from slink to potato the locate database is
> not updated any longer. Anacron is running after a reboot, but the
> updatedb does not locate recent files. Can somebody enlightenment me
> how things are workingtogether:
> find, locate, update, updatedb, anacron and cron.
> 
> Svante Signell

cron runs all entries in /etc/cron.d, which includes
/etc/cron.d/anacron.  This contains log entries which frequently invoke
anacron.

anacron uses timestamp information from /var/spool/anacron/* to decide
when to run the daily, weekly and monthly jobs, which are stored in
/etc/cron.(daily|weekly|monthly).

/etc/cron.daily/find is run each day by anacron by virtue of being
in the /etc/cron.d directory.  It contains the updatedb command.

locate uses the information produced by updatedb for fast file
searches.

A find command can be used for the same task as locate, but slower.
Find has a million and one options for specialised searches, though.

update is a command to periodically flush filesystem buffers, so I
think you might be onto a red herring here ... :-)

HTH.

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Re: GnomeICU dies

[Christopher C. Chimelis]

On 23 Jan 2000, Ron Farrer wrote:

> I'm running potato (updated 2000-01-22) and GnomeICU has been dying with
> this error for *several* weeks: 
> 
> Gdk-ERROR **: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)
>   serial 9 error_code 9 request_code 134 minor_code 1
> 
> Sometimes it runs for 1 second and other times for as long as 10, but
> always dies with that. I kept hoping this would be fixed but as of
> Saturday it hasn't been.  

Unfortunately, this is something that I haven't been able to track down in
ages.  I got one of them to work AWHILE ago, but have since lost the
patches in my machine migration (from a UDB to an SX164).  Has anyone else
been working on this?  If not, I guess I can try to mess with it more once
I'm done with some other freeze-related stuff.  Either that or we should
have this package removed from the Alpha dist until we can get it working.

C

RE: sources.list

[Ross Boylan]

A caution: potato is not 'stable' it is 'frozen'.  It is definitely not
stable yet.
frozen = no new packages, trying to get the bugs out (I think).

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Schulze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 1:22 PM
> To: Rob Hensley
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: sources.list
>
>
> Rob Hensley wrote:
> > Hi, I have a quick/simple question. If I plan on staying with potato
> > (stable) for awhile, should I change all the unstable lines to frozen in
> > my sources.list, or should I just leave them alone? Thanks for
> yout rime,
>
> Change it to 'potato' since frozen will be removed in 2 months.
>
> Regards,
>
>   Joey
>
>
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Re: Please tell me this is curable...

[Patrick Kirk]

Strange...by a stroke of pure genius, you've hit on the answer I feared
most.

Sigh.

Thanks.

Patrick
 - alone with thoughts of what to tell the taxman.

Locate question

[Svante Signell]

Hello,

Sometime during updates from slink to potato the locate database is
not updated any longer. Anacron is running after a reboot, but the
updatedb does not locate recent files. Can somebody enlightenment me
how things are workingtogether:
find, locate, update, updatedb, anacron and cron.

Svante Signell

Re: 2.2.10-14 i686 SMP: IDE RAID-5 array hangs on mount

[Gregory Maxwell]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Alan Cox wrote:

> Too many people whined. If you use raid use the 0.90 patches. Unfortunately
> a pile of people don't want raid 0.90 in the standard kernel, which is silly.

Pfft. The current in-kernel code is junk compaired to the 0.90. 

I think the most correct course of action remaining is to remove the
raid code all togeather. Better to have nothing at all then to have junk.

I'll submit a patch any anyone would like.

Re: sgml-tools, LinuxDoc, and customization

[Colin Marquardt]

* J Horacio MG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> README.Debian file for sgml-tools says that version 1 is orphaned
>> upstream. I take that to mean that I might not get help from the
>> upstream authors.

> Not sure, but I think that even the sgmltools2 is orphaned by now.

Indeed. Because of lack of a maintainer.

>> Anyway my problem is this: I am writing a HOWTO in LinuxDoc
>> format. I would like to be able to (locally) customize the HTML output
>> and add custom nav links to the top and bottom of each page. Is it
>> possible to do this with SGML Tools v1? If so, what do I edit and
>> change?

> I've seen this done with DocBook, not LinuxDoc.  Anyway, since the LDP
> is also adopting DocBook, you might consider it.

> In any case, there's a sgml tools list, which is still alive, though not
> much traffic on it.  To subscribe send a message to:

(Funny how often I'm reusing this little text in the last time:)

Stephane Bortzmeyer has a document about using SGML on a Debian
system, but this includes general information about SGML/XML/docbook 
as well: http://www.debian.org/%7Ebortz/SGML-HOWTO/

I also have a file called docbook-intro.sgml lying around, it says
it can be found at: http://nis-www.lanl.gov/~rosalia/

Two other links that belong into that proximity:
  http://home.sol.no/~vigu/dtds.html
  http://users.ox.ac.uk/%7Erahtz/passivetex

HTH,
  Colin

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Re: Please tell me this is curable...

[Gary Hennigan]

Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Over the weekend, I took my trusty server which had multiple
> partitions and swap files for RH, SuSE, NT and Debian and turned the
> whole thing over to Debian.
> 
> Naturally, I backed up 4 Gigs of data first using tar czvf.  Did a
> few tests and all seemed to work as tar xzvf recreated the files.
> 
> Now its not working as when I ftp the data in from NT, I get this:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tar xzvf datstore
> tar: This does not look like a tar archive
> tar: Skipping to next header
> 
> gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
> tar: Child returned status 1
> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> 
> 
> There's several thousand important files at stake here...can anyone
> tell me how to recover them?
> 
> Please...

How are you transferring the file from NT to Linux? If you're pushing
it from NT to linux via ftp you might not be in binary mode and a
translation is being done to change CR/LF pairs to CR, as expected on
Unix systems. Make sure you're using binary mode, as in:

NT$ ftp debianbox
login: myname
password: mypass
ftp> bin
200 Type set to I.
ftp> put datstor


This also hold true if you're using some types of serial-to-serial
transfer method. Whatever method you're using make sure it's a
binary-mode transfer.

Of course if you didn't transfer it to the NT box in binary mode in
the first place you might be in trouble.

Gary

Re: Please tell me this is curable...

[William T Wilson]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Patrick wrote:

> Now its not working as when I ftp the data in from NT, I get this:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tar xzvf datstore
> tar: This does not look like a tar archive
> tar: Skipping to next header

Maybe you transferred it in ASCII mode.  Hopefully you didn't transfer it
in ASCII mode when you sent it to the NT box because then you'll never get
it back.  If you did it in ASCII mode sending it back to the Linux system
then you must simply resend it in binary.

> There's several thousand important files at stake here...can anyone
> tell me how to recover them?

>From tape? :}

Please tell me this is curable...

[Patrick]

Over the weekend, I took my trusty server which had multiple partitions and 
swap files for RH, SuSE, NT and Debian and turned the whole thing over to 
Debian.

Naturally, I backed up 4 Gigs of data first using tar czvf.  Did a few tests 
and all seemed to work as tar xzvf recreated the files.

Now its not working as when I ftp the data in from NT, I get this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tar xzvf datstore
tar: This does not look like a tar archive
tar: Skipping to next header

gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$


There's several thousand important files at stake here...can anyone tell me how 
to recover them?

Please...

Patrick

Re: Slink or Potato

[Timothy C. Phan]

Hi All,

  It seems to me that potato would support the latest jdk1.2.2
  better than slink and I'm also need the use of jdk1.2.2 as
  well.

  In this case, I'll go for potato from hamm.  Well, I just need
  to know one more thing, does potato support IPMASQ the same as the
  previous versions (hamm or slink).

  Thank for all your replies.

---
tcp.

Re: Attention: imapd gpoing back to $HOME as mailbox root

[Joe Block]

Joe Emenaker wrote:
> Actually, what we *really* need is some sort of consensus. I mean, it would
> be pretty nice if imapd and other tools (like procmail) all looked in the
> same default location without any configuration. I know Elm and Pine used
> $HOME/Mail and $HOME/mail at one time.
> 
> Surely, I can't be the only one who sees the benefit in having all of the
> tools look in the same location for the "Sent Mail" folder, and "Drafts",
> etc.

You aren't.  Count me as a vote for $HOME/mail

jpb
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Re: Slink or Potato

[Martin Schulze]

Timothy C. Phan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>   I'm a user who are way behind the debian upgrade.  I've
>   recently mirror the slink and plan to upgrade from my
>   debian 1.3.1 to slink.  However, I've just noticed the potato
>   was recently frozen.  I'd like to solicite you all comment
>   on whether I should upgrade to slink or potato?
> 
>   Secondly, what are the differences between the twos?  Lastly,
>   I will rebuild the kernel and I also noticed that there were
>   kernel 2.0.xx and 2.2.xx.  Which should I use?

In order to upgrade to potato at the end of the day, the easiest
way is a new installation.  Bah, no that's not an option. :-)
It's easier to upgrade from bo -> slink and then from slink -> potato.

Regards,

Joey

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Broken KBD installation

[Pavel Epifanov]

Dear All,

Lately I had a trouble with keyboard mapping changed completely.

It seems to me that installation script for the kbd package was
broken and replace my correct /etc/kbd/default.kmap.gz by wrong one.

The solution is very simple - reboot from rescue disk (or logon thru ssh)
and rename/move old file back. Lucky it was saved with diff.name.

Author has been informed already.

---
Regards,
Pavel Epifanov.

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Re: Removing unwanted files at installation time

[Seth R Arnold]

On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 12:22:52PM -0600, John Foster wrote:
> I usually use the kernel-2.2.xx.tar.gz files from "www.kernel.org" and
> make my own source package. I was suggesting eliminating the unnecessary
> tree elements from the tar ball. Is that possible? I did not think
> Debian would work properly if anything was altered. (I have not actually
> tried it.) Just so you will know I am just now experimenting with making
> my own Debianized packages from completely non-debianized tar balls.

AFAICT, deleting the bits not needed for the other architectures won't harm
a thing -- not a running system. It *might* bite you when you build a new
kernel, but from my perousal of the main linux Makefile, I think it is smart
enough to ignore whatever isn't needed for your system.

You can gain roughly 15 megs this way, (perhaps more due to slack space in
the clusters on the hard drive.. :) so it might be worth a shot. And, if it
doesn't work, you can always redownload the kernel sources.

But, it won't affect a running system. Only when you try to compile *might*
it give errors.

:)

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Re: Attention: imapd gpoing back to $HOME as mailbox root

[Joe Emenaker]

> Although a number of people have supported my decision to make $HOME/mail
> the mailbox root for the UW imap server I maintain, I think it will be for
> the best overall if I make it $HOME again.

Argh! Okay. Does anybody want to suggest any other imap daemons that allow
me to set the mailroot to $HOME/mail where it's supposed to be?

>  Reasons:
>
> 1)  That's what most of the bug reports are about.

Problem now is that, when you refresh your folder list, you see all of your
files in your home directory. Many of these differ substantially from the
normal "inbox" format. I wouldn't be surprised to see a new slew of
complaints from sysadmins because all of their users are having trouble
opening their "core" folder. :)

In all seriousness, though... I think that one of the mantras of
user-friendliness these days is that the user shouldn't be allowed to easily
select something wrong. If imapd uses $HOME for its mail directories,
there's really nothing to prevent the user from being presented with a list
of various files when they ask for a list of their mail folders.

> 2)  That's what the upstream distribution does.  So it's less maintenance
> headaches for me.

Up to this point, one of the attractive features of Debian is that it
*fixes* the brain-dead defaults put in by the people who originally wrote
the software.

> 3)  It's what people expect.  (Principle of least surprise)

Well, you could fix that by having some sort of big warning in the postinst
script or something that required the user to hit a return so that you could
be sure they see it.

Actually, what we *really* need is some sort of consensus. I mean, it would
be pretty nice if imapd and other tools (like procmail) all looked in the
same default location without any configuration. I know Elm and Pine used
$HOME/Mail and $HOME/mail at one time.

Surely, I can't be the only one who sees the benefit in having all of the
tools look in the same location for the "Sent Mail" folder, and "Drafts",
etc.

> 4)  The reasoning behind the change wasn't that good in the first place.

Aside from the fact that compartmentalization is a good thing. I mean,
heck... while we're at it, why even bother using /var/spool/mail? Just dump
all mail into /var/spool! :)

But I don't expect this to change anyone's mind, I guess. What I'm really
after is a suggestion for a replacement imapd since I'm obviously going to
have to purge Jaldhar's. I tried the Cyrus-Imap, but wasn't able to get that
to work right out of the box.

- Joe

Blocked high ports (fwd)

[Bradley M Alexander]

Hello all,

Got a problem that is driving me nuts. Sorry to have sent to both lists,
but it is affecting both my laptop (Toshiba Satellite 4080XCDT) and my
desktop (K6-2/450) machine.

I installed Debian/Slink afresh on defiant (the desktop) over the weekend,
and immediately upgraded it to Potato. defiant is dns and dhcp server fro
my home network. Got the dns tables set back up, and noticed that nothing
on the network was ableto do DNS queries. Started doing a bit of digging,
and also noticed I could only ftp in passive mode. Normally ftp connects,
then switches that connection to an arbitrary hign (>1024) port. The two
systems would connect, then nothing would happen.

I checked /var/log/syslog and saw connection refused messages as far as
the eye could see. Blocking connections from the local nodes,
E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET (one of the top-level DNS'), etc. I tried telnetting
into the localhost on an arbitrary port:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] storm]$ telnet localhost 6699
Trying 127.0.0.1...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

I have set up hosts.allow/hosts.deny to allow everything from the local
network. What file am I missing that is blocking the high ports? 

Thanks,
--Brad


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Re: Removing unwanted files at installation time

[John Foster]

Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 
> The kernel source package only contains a tar archive of the kernel
> source now.

 If you safely unpack it and then remove parts of the
> unpacked source, dpkg won't care if you do that. This just happens to
> be the way in which the kernel source is distributed, and every now and
> then someone seems to come up with the idea to split the source in bits
> (see the linux-kernel archives) but a consensus is reached that perhaps
> that is not such a good idea after all.
I usually use the kernel-2.2.xx.tar.gz files from "www.kernel.org" and
make my own source package. I was suggesting eliminating the unnecessary
tree elements from the tar ball. Is that possible? I did not think
Debian would work properly if anything was altered. (I have not actually
tried it.) Just so you will know I am just now experimenting with making
my own Debianized packages from completely non-debianized tar balls.

> 
> Older kernel-source packages contained the unpacked source. If you
> remove parts of that dpkg would give a warning for each file that
> was in its database but that you removed. Those are just warnings
> though.
Ah Hah! I took them to mean "Do not do this!" Thanks.

> 
> > This is exactly the feature that I am seeking.
> 
> It's not though, you just think at the moment it is :). I do want to add
> this to dpkg at some point, but at the moment there are just a bunch of
> things higher on the TODO-list.
It's good enough that you are aware of the opportunity to improve
Debian.
> 
> However please realize that this won't help you to exclude files from
> other languages completely, but only those which happen to live in a
> clearly defined place in the filesystem hierarchy.

Maybe down the road somewhere the upstream package developers will
become aware that as the "world" becomes interested in free software,
the need for streamlining installations will become increasingly more
important. Perhaps an approach of using library files to handle
different languages. Then making installation selections based on
dependencies created by those libraries. We already do that with
programming "languages". As an example I would regret that my current
Gnome Enlightenment screen greeting spoke in some language that I do not
understand. Thanks for your interest.
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program like SuperProbe for sound?

[Stuart Ballard]

I was wondering if there was any program which would do for soundcards
what SuperProbe does for graphics - in other words, go talk to the
hardware, ask it what it is, and tell you everything you need to know to
choose the right kernel module to run it.

I have an old Packard Hell machine in which I can get sound working with
the sb module, but I'm certain this isn't the most appropriate driver,
for several reasons:
* The sound card certainly isn't a "genuine soundblaster" and the kernel
configuration warns that "sb" is probably the wrong module for cards
which just claim compatibility.
* At boot, I get a warning that the "SB dsp version is just 3.01 which
means that either your card is very old or your sound is incorrectly
configured".
* The sound is noticably lower quality than it was under windows on the
same computer.

If it were just the first two I wouldn't care, but I'd like to get
reasonable sound out of this computer, and it really is painfully low
quality atm.

The description of the sound card that is on a label on the machine is
totally uninformative, and all other documentation for the machine is
long-lost. What can I do to find out what sound card I have?

Thanks in advance,
Stuart.

Re: 2.2.10-14 i686 SMP: IDE RAID-5 array hangs on mount

[Alan Cox]

> Ask Cox, not me :-) Since Cox is RedHat's employee it looks VERY weird to me
> that RedHat's kernel and "official" Cox's kernel are two such different 
> beasts.

2.2.15 and the Red Hat kernel are two different things. They I suspect always
will be. The things vendors want "make it work now" and the main tree needs
"make it work right" are never going to totally overlap

> They should wait for Ingo to release RAID 0.90 patch for 2.2.15 I think :-)
> At least knfsd (not know about RAID) was sheduled for inclusion in 2.2.15 but
> now when 2.2.15 is "quick bug-fix release" (AGAIN!) it looks like KNFSD and
> RAID will be postponed once again :-/

I think all the important NFS stuff is already in 2.2.14. 

Alan

Re: Batch rename files

[Matthias Hertel]

Arcady Genkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What would be the easiest way to rename a bunch of files
> 
> foo-[0-9]-bar-[0-9][0-9].txt
> 
> into
> 
> blah-[0-9]-[0-9][0-9].txt
> 
> Note, that all of the files have identical portions `foo-', `-bar-',
> and `.txt' in the filenames. Different are two numerical parts.

A low-tech bash-only way to do this is:

for n in foo-*-bar-*.txt; do nn=${n/-bar-/-}; mv $n ${nn/foo/blah}; done

I actually use this quite often when I need to replace only one part
of the name. Plus you get to preview your changes when you replace
`mv' by `echo' in a dry run.

This was for the `easiest way' part.

Complex replacements get tedious with this technique, though. If
you're feeling really brave and are the do-it-yourself kind of person,
you won't want to resort to mmv or something else that is designed for
the job. You use sed to assemble a stream of commands that you pipe
into a shell:

ls foo-*-bar-*.txt | sed 's/\(foo\(.*\)bar-\(.*\)\)/mv \1 blah\2\3;/' | sh

or so. For increased power/obfuscation, you could pipe the output of
find into sed. This enables you to rename files in a whole directory
tree, and move them through the filesystem in interesting ways
(flattening directory hierarchies, for instance). This makes for
beautiful sed patterns, because the `/'s need to be escaped in sed:

find -type f | sed -e h -e 's/\.\///' -e 'y/\//-/' -e x -e G \
-e 's/\n/ /' -e 's/\(.*\)/mv \1;/' | sh

would transform

foo.txt
for/bar.txt
a/very/very/long/path/and/then/some.more

into

foo.txt
for-bar.txt
a-very-very-long-path-and-then-some.more

leaving some empty directories behind.
Now if you choose not to quote the sed expressions, because you could
as well escape them, you get

find -type f | sed -e h -e s/\\.\\/// -e y/\\//-/ -e x -e G \
-e s/\\n/\ / -e s/\\\(.\*\\\)/mv\ \\1\;/ | sh

I think this has a certain ring to it. Of course, my sed expressions
might be overly complicated, as complete mastery of sed is not really
simple to attain for mere mortals.

Have fun,
Matthias

Re: 2.2.10-14 i686 SMP: IDE RAID-5 array hangs on mount

[Khimenko Victor]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alan Cox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> > 1. If you are lucky and have working RAID based on stock 2.2.x (for example
>> > RAID 0 :-) you should be able to upgrade to 2.2.14 without big hassle.
>> > So upgrade to RAID 0.90 in mainstream kernel posponed to 2.4 ...
>>
>> Thanks, I will do that as soon as possible.
>>
>> > 2. RAID 0.90 need some changes in some important kernel structures and such
>> > changes will affect even users without RAID.
>> >
>> > RedHat 6.1 includes RAID patches anyway so I'm not sure if 2. still can be
>> > considered seriously.
>>
>> Cool, then maybe they'll be in 2.2.15?

AC> Too many people whined. If you use raid use the 0.90 patches. Unfortunately
AC> a pile of people don't want raid 0.90 in the standard kernel, which is 
silly.

Ok. Is it possible to at least add message somewhere about existance of
RAID 0.90 patches ? Not everyone is reading l-k, you know. This way users
at least will know about RAID 0.90 existence (URL will not hurt as well)
and can try to apply them if stock RAID will fail...

P.S. Perhaps "Changes" file can include list of "well-known" patches ? That
"well-known" for kernel developers who read l-k regularly but not so
"well-known" for outsiders ? Things like KNFSD patches, RAID 0.90, IDE patches
and so on ? They can be "not good enough" for official kernel just yet but
peoples can find them helpfull sometimes... And it's not so easy to find URL
even if you are aware of such patch existance :-/

Re: Netscape -- Bus Error

[Robert Rati]

Ya, I just had a similar problem.  Uninstall plugger and that should fix
it.

Rob

On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, jason wrote:

> Netscape crashed hard on me the other day.. now whenever i try to run it
> from the command line i get
> 
> >Bus Error
> 
> anyone know what i have to do to fix this?
> 
>  
> 
> -jason
> 
> "When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second.  When you
> sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity."
>   -Einstein
> 
> 
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Re: 2.2.10-14 i686 SMP: IDE RAID-5 array hangs on mount

[Khimenko Victor]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Adam C Powell IV ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
AI> Khimenko Victor wrote:

>> 2. RAID 0.90 need some changes in some important kernel structures and such
>> changes will affect even users without RAID.
>>
>> RedHat 6.1 includes RAID patches anyway so I'm not sure if 2. still can be
>> considered seriously.

AI> Cool, then maybe they'll be in 2.2.15?

Ask Cox, not me :-) Since Cox is RedHat's employee it looks VERY weird to me
that RedHat's kernel and "official" Cox's kernel are two such different beasts.
Anyway, as 2.2.15 turned out to be "quick bugfix release" (AGAIN!) RAID 0.90
will not be integrated. If it'll be integrated in 2.2.x series at all...

>> AI> Please seriously consider the attached patch for 2.2.15.  It will save a 
>> lot of
>> AI> time and grief for RAID amateurs like myself.
>>
>> RAID amateurs will use RedHat 6.1 with patched kernel :-)

AI> Okay, then RAID amateurs who use any other distro (okay, perhaps SuSE and 
TurboLinux
AI> have the patches...), or RAID amateurs who download the latest stock 
kernel.  When
AI> 2.2.15 comes out, should such amateurs be expected to know to wait for 
RedHat 6.2 (or
AI> SuSE whatever)?

They should wait for Ingo to release RAID 0.90 patch for 2.2.15 I think :-)
At least knfsd (not know about RAID) was sheduled for inclusion in 2.2.15 but
now when 2.2.15 is "quick bug-fix release" (AGAIN!) it looks like KNFSD and
RAID will be postponed once again :-/

AI> Thank you very much for the help, I appreciate it very much.  But I do 
still think
AI> there needs to be some change in the way RAID is done in the stable kernel. 
 Either it
AI> should be patched to use RAID 0.90, or there should be VERY LOUD WARNINGS 
in many
AI> places, including drivers/block/Config.in, Documentation/Configure.help and
AI> Documentation/md.txt (and in Debian, in 
/usr/share/doc/raidtools/DO-NOT-USE), telling
AI> people not to expect what's there to work.

They can expect it to work. And it even works. Sometimes.

AI> I cannot tell you how frustrated this has made me over the last three 
months, when
AI> kernel after kernel just failed.  I tried different IDE options, I tried 
different
AI> compilers, and each time my RAID array took more than seven hours to ckraid 
--fix
AI> (which was not automatic in Debian potato until about a month ago, so the 
downtime was
AI> often a lot longer), during which /home for my entire research group- 
including
AI> everyone's web pages- was unavailable.  After the third or fourth failure, 
I went to
AI> the debian-user mailing list, where the advice given was to just use gcc 
2.7.2, which
AI> of course did nothing for me, and I asked again and nobody had any clue.

Looks like you just asked in wrong place :-) It's typical situation in fact:
there are LOTS of patches floating around. But they will be added in kernel
only when they looks "good enough". Sometimes conclusion is that "it's good
stuff and it should be added... in next version of kernel - since there are to
many changes to make such a pile of changes suitable for inclusion in stable
kernel". Even if for most peoples RAID 0.90 works MUCH better then default
RAID from stock linux kernel.

AI> I've been enjoying Linux for long enough on a wide enough variety of 
platforms- and
AI> have had bad enough experiences with NT (really bad, hate it, hate it, hate 
it!)- that
AI> switching has not been an option.  But the value of the hours and hours of 
lost time-
AI> several days in total- made me *very* seriously reconsider this- this has 
been almost
AI> as bad as the NT nightmares.  It probably would have even been worth the 
extra price
AI> of Solaris/Sparc!

AI> Linux can be one of two things:

AI>   1. A professional system whose stable kernels just work.
AI>   2. A hobbyist/geek system which requires patches to make things work, and 
doesn't
AI>  even say so anywhere in the documentation, one must "just know" these 
things.

AI> My impression has been that Linux aims for #1, but it seems I am wrong, or 
at the very
AI> least, the RAID policy has been pure #2.

Not at all. It was more like "RAID 0.90 looks great but it's not yet clear if
improvements are really big enough to add incompatibilities in stable kernel
series". Only when it's clear that applaying patch is  "Good Thing(tm)" patch
is applied. All other patches (and there are LOTS of them: RAID patches, KNFSD
patches, IDE patches, etc) should be VERY rigourously tested before they will
be included in linux kernel. ESPECIALLY in stable version. As Linus said
"I prefer to have a known bug that will eventually get fixed than an ugly
solution that will hide it forever." I hope you'll undertood this position.
If you call this "hobbyist/geek system" - be so, swicth to other system.

AI> If it is about to be fixed, that's great, but for future reference, quality
AI> control issues like this matter a whole lot to a great many people.

Unfortunatelly "quality" means different things for different peoples :-/

AI> I do

Re: Batch rename files

[David Wright]

Quoting Arcady Genkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> What would be the easiest way to rename a bunch of files
> 
> foo-[0-9]-bar-[0-9][0-9].txt
> 
> into
> 
> blah-[0-9]-[0-9][0-9].txt
> 
> Note, that all of the files have identical portions `foo-', `-bar-',
> and `.txt' in the filenames. Different are two numerical parts.

If you use mc, you can select the files with + and type
foo-[0-9]-bar-[0-9][0-9].txt in the box, then rename (RenMov, F6,
with Using Shell Patterns checked) and type foo-*-bar-*.txt and
blah-\1-\2.txt in the boxes.

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Re: 2.2.10-14 i686 SMP: IDE RAID-5 array hangs on mount

[Alan Cox]

> > 1. If you are lucky and have working RAID based on stock 2.2.x (for example
> > RAID 0 :-) you should be able to upgrade to 2.2.14 without big hassle.
> > So upgrade to RAID 0.90 in mainstream kernel posponed to 2.4 ...
> 
> Thanks, I will do that as soon as possible.
> 
> > 2. RAID 0.90 need some changes in some important kernel structures and such
> > changes will affect even users without RAID.
> >
> > RedHat 6.1 includes RAID patches anyway so I'm not sure if 2. still can be
> > considered seriously.
> 
> Cool, then maybe they'll be in 2.2.15?

Too many people whined. If you use raid use the 0.90 patches. Unfortunately
a pile of people don't want raid 0.90 in the standard kernel, which is silly.

Alan

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Re: Help me with glibc

[Robert Beranek]

Tilman,

could you please tell me exactly which packages did you install, beacuse
when i want to install libc6_2.1.2-11.deb it says that i should update
timezone package which i cannot find.

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On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 03:34:09AM -0500, Robert Beranek wrote:
> Hello!
> Is there anyone that succseed to insatll Glibc 2.1 in Debian 2.1 Slink?
> [...]

Greetings,

sure is. I upgraded via downloading and installing the .debs from unstable
using dpkg.

I also have installed a self-compiled glibc 2.1 in /usr/local for developing
purposes, however I had to upgrade the debian packages first.

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RE: Weird Console Stuff

[I can. Thank you.]

you are typing with a french keymap. on the french keyboard swaps a - q,
z - w, and puts some other keys in different places. i don't know enough
about setting keymaps to tell you how to fix the problem, but maybe
someone else knows 

matt

On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Lewis, James M. wrote:

> 
> 
> > I've been experiencing a very strange console problem.  My keyboard seems
> > to have the wrong keys bound.  In X Windows, no problems.  In console,
> > 'cwalstrom' types out as 'czqlstro,'.  Obviously, I cannot log on in
> > console mode because I cannot predict which keys I have to depress to get
> > the correct password. ;-(
> > 
> > Any help on this?
> > 
> I had the same problem about a week ago (potato).  Run kbdconfig
> to set up the console and it should fix it.
> 
> jim
> > -- 
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> > 
> 
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Re: 2.2.10-14 i686 SMP: IDE RAID-5 array hangs on mount

[Adam C Powell IV]

Khimenko Victor wrote:

> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Adam C Powell IV ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> AI> Apologies for the delay, I've been having some email trouble.  Future 
> followups
> AI> will be a lot quicker.
>
> AI> Khimenko Victor wrote:
>
> >> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Adam C Powell IV ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >> > Greetings,
> >>
> >> > I have a RAID-5 array across 10 GB partitions on four 17 GB IDE drives
> >> > at hda-d, and a RAID-0 array across 5 GB partitions on the same drives,
> >> > on a dual-Celeron ABIT BP6 motherboard (haven't installed the recent
> >> > BIOS upgrade).
> >>
> >> > I've built SMP kernels from 2.2.10 and 2.2.13 source with gcc-2.95, and
> >> > then 2.2.13 and 2.2.14 with gcc-2.7.2.3, all using the standard Debian
> >> > .config except 686 and SMP (well, approximately the Debian 2.2.13 config
> >> > for 2.2.14).
> >>
> >> That is: you are using broken RAID implementation and expect it to work
> >> somehow ?
>
> AI> Uh, there's a broken RAID implementation in a stable kernel?
>
> Not exactly "broken". More like "unmaintained". It works for some peoples but
> there are LOTS of problems with it :-/ And noone bother to fix them since
> there are exist version 0.90 :-)
>
> >> > For all of these kernels, the machine always hangs while mounting the
> >> > RAID-5 array.  It never hangs while mounting the RAID-0 array, which
> >> > happens to come before it.  And it never hangs under the non-SMP 386
> >> > Debian kernel images.
> >>
> >> > Are there any known races which got into 2.2.14?  I haven't yet tried
> >> > 2.2.15-pre, is there any reason to believe it might solve the problem?
> >>
> >> It will not solve problem. RAID as it is in 2.2.x kernels us unstable and
> >> unmaintained. You REALLY should use raid patches. There are some
> >> incompatibilities with 2.2.x RAID implementation and latest RAID patches
> >> and thus it's not going in 2.2.x but if you need working raid (and you do
> >> hot have one) you SHOULD NOT use stock 2.2.x RAID. Use one from
> >> http://people.redhat.com/mingo/raid-2.2.14-B1
>
> AI> Hmm, I sense a contradiction here: 2.2.x RAID is incompatible with the 
> latest
> AI> RAID patches and so will stay in, but 2.2.x RAID is unstable and 
> unmaintained.
> AI> If you don't mind my asking, what kind of logic motivated that policy?
>
> 1. If you are lucky and have working RAID based on stock 2.2.x (for example
> RAID 0 :-) you should be able to upgrade to 2.2.14 without big hassle.
> So upgrade to RAID 0.90 in mainstream kernel posponed to 2.4 ...

Thanks, I will do that as soon as possible.

> 2. RAID 0.90 need some changes in some important kernel structures and such
> changes will affect even users without RAID.
>
> RedHat 6.1 includes RAID patches anyway so I'm not sure if 2. still can be
> considered seriously.

Cool, then maybe they'll be in 2.2.15?

> AI> But seriously.  So what you're telling me is that I need to back up all 
> of my
> AI> data, install a patched kernel (and Debian raidtools2), and completely 
> wipe and
> AI> reinstall the RAID arrays, right?  Are there any tools to translate old 
> RAID
> AI> arrays into new ones?
>
> AFAIK you do not need to backup data and reinstall it (I can be wrong here).
> You should install new RAID tools and accomodate configuration files but
> actual contents of RAID array do not need to be reinstalled.

Thank you, this is very comforting news!  I'll back up anyway, but it's very 
good to
know that the old arrays should mount.

> AI> Please seriously consider the attached patch for 2.2.15.  It will save a 
> lot of
> AI> time and grief for RAID amateurs like myself.
>
> RAID amateurs will use RedHat 6.1 with patched kernel :-)

Okay, then RAID amateurs who use any other distro (okay, perhaps SuSE and 
TurboLinux
have the patches...), or RAID amateurs who download the latest stock kernel.  
When
2.2.15 comes out, should such amateurs be expected to know to wait for RedHat 
6.2 (or
SuSE whatever)?

Thank you very much for the help, I appreciate it very much.  But I do still 
think
there needs to be some change in the way RAID is done in the stable kernel.  
Either it
should be patched to use RAID 0.90, or there should be VERY LOUD WARNINGS in 
many
places, including drivers/block/Config.in, Documentation/Configure.help and
Documentation/md.txt (and in Debian, in /usr/share/doc/raidtools/DO-NOT-USE), 
telling
people not to expect what's there to work.

I cannot tell you how frustrated this has made me over the last three months, 
when
kernel after kernel just failed.  I tried different IDE options, I tried 
different
compilers, and each time my RAID array took more than seven hours to ckraid 
--fix
(which was not automatic in Debian potato until about a month ago, so the 
downtime was
often a lot longer), during which /home for my entire research group- including
everyone's web pages- was unavailable.  After the third or fourth failure, I 
went to
the debian-user mailing list, where the advice given was to jus

Re: mail confusion

[Gary Hennigan]

paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
> OK. At least I feel I`m doing something constructive now.
> Firstly  dpkg -l | grep "mail transport" tells me:
> 
> FUDO2:/home/guest# dpkg -l | grep "mail transport"
> ii  sendmail8.9.3-20   A powerful mail transport agent.
> 
> which is as I expected because I deliberately installed sendmail,
> replacing exim, because it was needed by the "Fidogate" program
> which was what started all this off.
> 
> If I now restart sendmail - "/etc/init.d/sendmail start" I get a
> load of output along these lines:
> 
> Starting mail transport agent:   /var/spool/mqueue/qfHAA2>   /var/spool/mqueue/DfXAA26514> sendmail.

Looks to me like you have a lot of junk in your mail queue. If your
MTA isn't working properly that's not unusual.

> I have absolutely no idea what this means.
> telnet localhost 25 still says:
> 
> FUDO2:/home/guest# telnet localhost 25
> Trying 127.0.0.1...
> Connected to dial.pipex.com.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> mail... Recipient names must be specified

I don't think this is right. I don't have a Debian machine runing
sendmail but our Solaris server is. Here's what I get when I telnet to
the smtp port on it:

% telnet mailserver 25
220 Custom ESMTP Sendmail Version (CSUSP); Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:01:43 -0700 (MST)

and then it just waits for input. This is the behavior of every MTA I
have ever used. Never seen anything like what you're getting.

> I hope this gives  some clues as to the problem. I`m still sure I must have
> misconfigured it somehow but I`ve read all I can and tried several different
> configurations, all with these same results.

Maybe. Check in /etc/inetd.conf and see what is listed for the smtp
service. On my Debian box it looks like:

smtpstream  tcp nowait  mail/usr/sbin/exim exim -bs

Of course it's possible you're not running sendmail via inetd, but as
a standalone daemon. If that's the case you'll have to tell us how
it's started by a script in /etc/init.d (script name will probably be
sendmail) at boot time. 

If it is running on it's own as a daemon the script to start it should
contain a line similiar to:

sendmail -bd -q15m

I'm not sure what the line in inetd.conf should be if you're running
it via inetd. Someone with more sendmail experience care to share?

Also, it should NOT be started in both places, eg., via a script in
/etc/init.d and from a line in inetd.conf.

Gary

ISDN, Calling in, HOW?????

[Ron Rademaker]

I want to be able to call in on my linux computer from both [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
and
Linux computers, the linux computer has a ISND (Teles) Card. I've tried to
do it by putting a getty on a modem line (/etc/inittab) but that won't
work. I think mgetty only works with anologue modems (tell me if I'm
wrong)... HOW can I make this work?

Ron

RE: Weird Console Stuff

[Lewis, James M.]

> I've been experiencing a very strange console problem.  My keyboard seems
> to have the wrong keys bound.  In X Windows, no problems.  In console,
> 'cwalstrom' types out as 'czqlstro,'.  Obviously, I cannot log on in
> console mode because I cannot predict which keys I have to depress to get
> the correct password. ;-(
> 
> Any help on this?
> 
I had the same problem about a week ago (potato).  Run kbdconfig
to set up the console and it should fix it.

jim
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> a.k.a ^chewie, gunnarr   http://wookimus.net/~chewie
> 

Re: ipchains diagnostics

[Dänzer]

--- Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can't get ipchains to work and get no error messages when I run
> echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> /sbin/ipchains -P forward DENY
> /sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.0/24 -j MASQ

The IP address looks funny. Sure it's private?


Michel


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Weird Console Stuff

[^chewie]

I've been experiencing a very strange console problem.  My keyboard seems
to have the wrong keys bound.  In X Windows, no problems.  In console,
'cwalstrom' types out as 'czqlstro,'.  Obviously, I cannot log on in
console mode because I cannot predict which keys I have to depress to get
the correct password. ;-(

Any help on this?

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Re: Is it possible to Increase file number on ext2fs ?

[Ethan Benson]

On 24/1/2000 test wrote:


I'm using kind of linux on 386 box with 40 MB hdd (8swap+32 ext2).
It carries two modems and servers as Dialup server.
Just now I have about 8 Mb free on hdd.
But file count is nearly at its limit.
So is there any way to increase possible file count for my FS ?
Or I have to look for some other ways to not overrun file count ?


i beleive the only way to do so is by remaking the filesystem, which 
will require you  to backup the data and restore after you finish..


use mke2fs -i 

for small filesystems the block size is 1024 bytes, and the bytes per 
inode by default is 4096, if you wanted to be able to fill your disk 
with only 1K files you could do


mke2fs -i 1024 and you would have 1 inode per disk block, that is 
probably not necessary though..


with larger filesystems (600MB i think) and e2fsprogs 1.15 and later 
the default block size is 4096 and inodes per block is 8192.


one thing you should check is that there is not some runaway process 
making junk somewhere, i once had a broken MTA i was too lazy to fix 
for over a year (well i did not use it ;)), well it turns out cron 
was sending mail every day and it was being dumped into a queue 
directory and eventually there were about 6 files in there and i 
ran out of inodes ...


Ethan

Slink or Potato

[Timothy C. Phan]

Hi,

  I'm a user who are way behind the debian upgrade.  I've
  recently mirror the slink and plan to upgrade from my
  debian 1.3.1 to slink.  However, I've just noticed the potato
  was recently frozen.  I'd like to solicite you all comment
  on whether I should upgrade to slink or potato?

  Secondly, what are the differences between the twos?  Lastly,
  I will rebuild the kernel and I also noticed that there were
  kernel 2.0.xx and 2.2.xx.  Which should I use?

  I have apparently been out of the debian community for quite
  sometime and appreciate all comment.

  Thanks!

---
tcp

Re: ipchains diagnostics

[aphro]

i assume your talking about ipmasq ? did u set the gateway of the other
machines to the ip of the linux box? what happens exactly?

make sure your using kernel 2.2 if yer usin ipchains

nate

On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Patrick wrote:

patric >I can't get ipchains to work and get no error messages when I run
patric >echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
patric >/sbin/ipchains -P forward DENY
patric >/sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.0/24 -j MASQ
patric >
patric >How can I tell what's wrong?  I see nothing in logs nor
patric >tail -f /var/log/messages.
patric >
patric >Patrick
patric >
patric >
patric >
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Re: ipchains diagnostics

[Onno Ebbinge]

At 01:56 PM 1/24/00 +, Patrick wrote:
>ip masq is definately enabled in the kernel but not sure about ip forwarding.
>
>My real question is how can I diagnose the error.  Where can I get a message 
>what setting I've missed as I know this is Operator Error.

If 'ls /proc/sys/net/ipv4' yields a 'ip_forward' then the
kernel supports ip forwarding.

But futher diagnostics is done step bij step: 

(others: please correct me when I'm wrong because 
 I'm doing this 'on the fly')

- check the kernel for support
- check kernel parameters
- check ifconfig
- check route
- check ipchains

Good luck,

Onno

Re: Emacs and ~/.Xdefaults

[Big Gaute]

Christian Lynbech on satellite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am no expert on X11 ressources, but here is a few ideas. Beware that
> this is based on a mental image I have built for myself which may have
> anywhere between 0 and 100 % resemblance to reality.
> 
> First note that X11 distinguishes between an applications *class* and
> its *name*.
> 
> So you could try writing
> 
>   Emacs.background: Black
> 
> To set a default for all applications in the Emacs class.

I substituted Emacs for emacs in my .Xresources, and it worked
perfectly.  Keeping in mind what you had said above, I then tried
emacs20, which also worked.  I'm going to file a bug on this.

Thanks for the help!

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Re: Batch rename files

[Dave Sherohman]

Arcady Genkin said:
> What would be the easiest way to rename a bunch of files
> 
> foo-[0-9]-bar-[0-9][0-9].txt
> 
> into
> 
> blah-[0-9]-[0-9][0-9].txt

mmv is the way to go.  It's in the mmv package (imagine that...); just
install it (if you haven't already done so) and then

mmv "foo-*-bar-*" blah-#1-#2

(The second * will catch both of the trailing digits and the .txt extension
and funnel them all into #2.  If there are other files which match this
pattern that you don't want getting changed, range specifications of [0-9]
are accepted by mmv also.)

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Re: ipchains diagnostics

[Patrick]

ip masq is definately enabled in the kernel but not sure about ip forwarding.

My real question is how can I diagnose the error.  Where can I get a message 
what setting I've missed as I know this is Operator Error.


Patrick

Re: Problem with console-data package in Woody

[David Natkins]

Sorry if this has already been reported, but the console-data package in Woody 
(the
new unstable) has a problem
with the default keymap.  I renamed it and used the old one and everything is 
ok.


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Re: Removing unwanted files at installation time

[Wichert Akkerman]

Previously John Foster wrote:
> I was referencing the kernel package. It seems to have a lot of stuff I do
> not require for my i386 CPU but when I have removed/deleted some of these
> from the tree in the past, it screwed up my dpkg dependencies.

The kernel source package only contains a tar archive of the kernel
source now. If you safely unpack it and then remove parts of the
unpacked source, dpkg won't care if you do that. This just happens to
be the way in which the kernel source is distributed, and every now and
then someone seems to come up with the idea to split the source in bits
(see the linux-kernel archives) but a consensus is reached that perhaps
that is not such a good idea after all.

> This resulted in being unable to use dpkg to remove what it assumed
> were half installed programs.

Older kernel-source packages contained the unpacked source. If you
remove parts of that dpkg would give a warning for each file that
was in its database but that you removed. Those are just warnings
though.

> This is exactly the feature that I am seeking.

It's not though, you just think at the moment it is :). I do want to add
this to dpkg at some point, but at the moment there are just a bunch of
things higher on the TODO-list.

However please realize that this won't help you to exclude files from
other languages completely, but only those which happen to live in a
clearly defined place in the filesystem hierarchy.

Wichert.

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Re: ipchains diagnostics

[Onno Ebbinge]

IP forwarding and IP masq-ing are enabled in the kernel?

Regards,

Onno


At 10:29 AM 1/24/00 +, Patrick wrote:
>I can't get ipchains to work and get no error messages when I run
>echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>/sbin/ipchains -P forward DENY
>/sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.0/24 -j MASQ
>
>How can I tell what's wrong?  I see nothing in logs nor
>tail -f /var/log/messages.
>
>Patrick

Is it possible to Increase file number on ext2fs ?

[test]

Hi all,
I'm using kind of linux on 386 box with 40 MB hdd (8swap+32 ext2).
It carries two modems and servers as Dialup server.
Just now I have about 8 Mb free on hdd.
But file count is nearly at its limit. 
So is there any way to increase possible file count for my FS ?
Or I have to look for some other ways to not overrun file count ?

Thanks Alex

xconsole "couldn't open console"

[Carl Fink]

After an apt-get upgrade (using potato) attempts to open xconsole
show the above error.  I can't pinpoint the exact time of the problem
because with Linux I went weeks between boots, and it's started by my
.Xsession.

I tried looking up the problem in the Debian-User archives, but
unfortunately the search engine on www.debian.org is still broken.

I've played with permissions on xconsole.real (currently root.root),
but every attempt to start the program still gives the above error. 

Is there a console-mode equivalent of xconsole?

Thanks in advance for any help.
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Netscape -- Bus Error

[jason]

Netscape crashed hard on me the other day.. now whenever i try to run it
from the command line i get

>Bus Error

anyone know what i have to do to fix this?

 

-jason

"When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second.  When you
sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity."
-Einstein

Re: dropping libc 2.1 into stable for some development work possible?

[Tilman Kranz]

Greetings,

On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 11:34:18AM -0900, Britton wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to get the upstream library, install it in /usr/local, and
> then compile certain packages against it (static or whatever is fine for
> the moment) without disturbing the rest of the system?  Will I see full
> benefits of newer conformance symbols and everything?

I had to do the following:

- upgrade the debian package binary (i.e.libc and libc-dev) to 2.1
  this went smoothly and required only a few upgrades.

- build install the new libc to /usr/local

without upgrading the debian libc packages, my version of gcc (namely a 
self-built egcs 1.1.2) would fail to build the libc.

I think you can savely downgrade the debian packages when done to 2.0
again, to have a slink installation and no half-upgraded system. 

You then can use your self-comiled libc for developing and such - but
you cannot uninstall debian libc without breaking major dependencies
and having to rebuild large parts of your system manually ;-)

Greetings,
Tilman.

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Re: Help me with glibc

[Tilman Kranz]

On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 03:34:09AM -0500, Robert Beranek wrote:
> Hello!
> Is there anyone that succseed to insatll Glibc 2.1 in Debian 2.1 Slink?
> [...]

Greetings,

sure is. I upgraded via downloading and installing the .debs from unstable
using dpkg.

I also have installed a self-compiled glibc 2.1 in /usr/local for developing 
purposes, however I had to upgrade the debian packages first.

Good luck,
Tilman.

imapd, horde or imp problem

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

Hi,

I'm having some troubles in setting a webmail server. Almost
everything is working fine except for Creating new folders in HOME
directory as well as for saving sent messages.
Could somebody help me in solving this, please?
Things I can do at the moment are:
- sending email works fine;
- moving messages to and from already existing folders works
fine;
- including contacts into database works after fixing the table
names since it seems that mysql doesn't like underscore '_' in table
names (imp_prefs and imp_addr).
- saving preferences, like signature and language it's ok.
The HOME directories have permissions set to 2771 (rwxrws--x).
ONLY creating new folders and saving sent messages didn't work.
Bellow I quote some lines from /etc/imp/defaults.php3:
---
/* Folder configuration */
$default->folders   = ''; 
$default->use_imap_subscribe= true; 
$default->show_dotfiles = false; 
$default->sent_mail = 'sent_mail'; 
$default->save_sent_mail= true; 
$default->drafts= 'drafts'; 

When I sent a message, I get this line from IMP:

Message send successfully, ERROR: not saved tosent_mail


Thanks,

[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
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ipchains diagnostics

[Patrick]

I can't get ipchains to work and get no error messages when I run
echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
/sbin/ipchains -P forward DENY
/sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.0/24 -j MASQ

How can I tell what's wrong?  I see nothing in logs nor
tail -f /var/log/messages.

Patrick

Re: Fwd: new install network problem

[Michael Schmitz]

> I'm trying to install debian packages with dselect,
> and ftp fails to connect on 'update available
> packages' step. Can someone look at my boot message
> and network configuration files and tell me why my
> network isn't working, please?
> data...

Thanks for posting your problem three times. 
> Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Scanning nubus slots. 
> Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Macintosh ADB mouse

There's no Nubus devices whatsoever detected. 
 
> Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Checking for internal
> Macintosh ethernet (SONIC).. yes 
> Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: eth0: SONIC ethernet
> found at 0x50f0a000,  MAC 08:00:07:ec:ea:77 IRQ 9 

But there's a builtin ethernet controller. Fine. Please try a more recent
version of the Mac kernel (2.1, 2.2). And please make sure your booter
options are OK ("don't disable VBL interrupts" option _off_).

Michael

How to Make a Debian Rescue CD from Windows

[Craig H. Block]

Someone asked about making Debian CD's from Windows.  Here's how I've
been doing it;

Create an archive on your Windows machine, for example c:\debian_cd

Copy the 2880K rescue image (from disks-i386/2.2.4-2000-01-03/disks-2.88
in the master archive) to c:\debian_cd   

Copy drivers.tgz, disks-1.44/rescue.bin, and base2_2.tgz (from 
disks-i386/2.2.4-2000-01-03 in the master archive) to
c:\debian_cd\debian\dists\potato\main\disks-i386\current  

Create another directory for the .deb's, for example
c:\debian_cd\archive

Copy all of the .deb's for the packages you want to
c:\debian_cd\archive  You may already have them available from
/var/cache/apt/archives if you haven't cleaned it out.

Create a template using your Windows CD software. Set the CD's root to
mirror c:\debian_cd.  Add bootcatx.bin from the following utility to the
CD root first.  http://annex.com/craig/archive/mkbtcd102.zip

Create the ISO image using your Windows CD software.  Be sure to set the
file system to ISO9660 with Rockridge extensions (long file names). 
Mode 1 seems to work best.

Use the mkbootcd utility to make the image bootable.  Here is a usage
example for mkbootcd.exe; 

mkbootcd cdimage.iso bootcatx.bin rescue.bin  

Typing mkbootcd without any command line parameters will display a help
screen

Create the CD using your Windows CD software.

Boot and load the system with the CD you just made.  Prior to using the
apt-get method, mount the CD and copy the contents of /archive to
/var/cache/apt/archives

You can make fresh CD's periodically to minimize the number of downloads
and upgrades after install.

One handy feature of dpkg is 

dpkg --set-selections < selections

where "selections" is an ascii file listing user desired selections. 
The format can be seen by using dpkg --get-selections. An install script
could look like this;

echo "apt apt" >/var/lib/dpkg/cmethopt
echo "deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free"
>/etc/apt/sources.list
dpkg --clear-avail
dselect update
dpkg --set-selections < ./selections
dselect install

--
Craig H. Block, Debian user
Debian GNU/Linux potato
Linux 2.2.13 SMP i686

Re: Very frustrating

[virtanen]

On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Phillip Deackes wrote:

> Don Cavaiani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Finally, is it possible to put a new icon on the window desktop so
> > that
> > I can start a favorite program with just a click?
> 
> You need a file manager which uses icons. A very nice one to use is dfm
> - in fact dfm is recommended by the author of icewm. It is available as
> a Debian package, but have a look at the web site:
> 
> http://dfm.linuxbox.com/

I've used and using at present dfm as well. Really satisfied with it. You
can create as many icons as you need for your favorite programs to start
them. You can create directories for your files. You can start working
with your files either by 'dragging and dropping' them on a program icon
or defining a program, which will open the file just by double-clicking
it. 
Shortly: you can create really mackintosh-like environment, which is fast
and eating very little your precious memory resources.

hv  

How to add ethernet cards (also interrupt problems)

[Joshua J. Brickel]

Hi folks,

I seem to have a couple of problems setting up my ethernet cards.  I've
set up my system as a router, hence it has two ethernet cards.  Both
cards are 3COM Fatsh Ethelink XL 10/100 (I think the driver is 3c59x).

Either way for some reason during installation of my debian (2.1) system
neither ethernet card was installed.  After boot I can use modprob 3c59x
and it finds both of them.

1) How can I get the system to automatically recognize the cards at boot
up?  Right now I have to manually configure the cards and the routing
table after each boot.

2) The cards are both using IRQ 11.  Which I can imagine is not good.
How do I prevent this from occurring?  The I/O addresses is different
fro each, but I'm not sure if this is enough to prevent problems.

3) When I look cat /proc/pci, it would appear that alll my devices are
using IRQ 11 (IDE, Video card, ethernet cards).  I can't see how my
system is even running with everyone sharing one IRQ?!?  Any idea?  Of
course when I looked at cat /proc/interrupts it lists my IDE controllers
as IRQ 14,15 and only my ethernet cards both on IRQ11.  So may I've just
misread the cat /proc/pci  At anyrate I'm still worried about both
ethernet cards sharing an IRQ.  How can I change  this?  And how do I
make sure that I'm not going to conflict with any other hardware?

Thanks,

Joshua




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Fwd: new install network problem

[Roger Weinheimer]

I'm trying to install debian packages with dselect,
and ftp fails to connect on 'update available
packages' step. Can someone look at my boot message
and network configuration files and tell me why my
network isn't working, please?
data...
***/var/log/messages

Jan 24 01:07:36 m68k syslogd 1.3-3#31: restart.
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: klogd 1.3-3#31, log
source = /proc/kmsg started.
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Cannot find map file.
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: No module symbols loaded.
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Detected Macintosh model:
52  
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:  Booter data: 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:  Video: addr f000 row
400 depth 8 dimensions 1e00280 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:  Args: 0 boottime
388ba5b9 GMTBias -480  
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:  Booter version: 6c video
log.: f9001000 SCC at 50f0c020  
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:  Machine ID: 52 memory
size: 44  
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:  Serial : 0 handshake:
2580 GPI: 2580  
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:  Printer: 0 handshake:
2580 GPI: 2580  
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:  CPUid: 2 ROMbase:
4080 ADBDelay: 30e TimeDBRA: 271b  
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Ramdisk: addr 0 size 0 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Apple Macintosh Centris
610 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: via_init: boot via1 acr=C
pcr=22 buf_a=E1 dir_a=28 buf_b=FE dir_b=F7  
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: via_init: boot via2
acr=C0 pcr=26 buf_a=BF dir_a=0 buf_b=6 dir_b=FF  
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: mac_video_setup: option
font:VGA8x8 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: mac_fb_init: xres 640
yres 480 bpp 8 addr f000 size 491520  
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: fbcon_startup: No
internal video VBL detected, using timer based cursor.

Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Console: colour  80x60, 1
virtual console (max 63) 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Calibrating delay loop..
ok - 26.52 BogoMIPS 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Memory: 67208k/69632k
available (748k kernel code, 1676k data) 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Swansea University
Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: NET3: Unix domain sockets
0.13 for Linux NET3.035. 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Swansea University
Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP,
TCP 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Linux version 2.0.36
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.1) #20 Tue Feb 23
23:55:16 PST 1999 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2
 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: adb: MacII style
keyboard/mouse driver. 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: adb: init done. 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Configuring keyboard 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: leds on ... 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Configuring coding mode
...
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Keyboard init done 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: M68K Serial driver
version 1.01 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Mac68K Z8530 serial
driver version 1.01 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: ttyS0 at 0x50f0c022:
Macintosh SCC 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: ttyS1 at 0x50f0c020:
Macintosh SCC 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: BTW  boot via1 acr=C
datab=FE pcr=22 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Scanning nubus slots. 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Macintosh ADB mouse
installed. 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Ramdisk driver
initialized : 16 ramdisks of 4096K size 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: loop: registered device
at major 7 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: md driver 0.36.3
MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: mac_esp: io base at
0x50f1 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: esp: using quick version 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: esp: addr at 0x50f1 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: NCR53C9x(esp236) detected

Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: SCSI ID 7  Clock 16 MHz
CCF=4 Time-Out 138  
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: mac_esp: 1 esp
controllers found 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: scsi0 : Sparc ESP236 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: scsi : 1 host. 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:   Vendor: QUANTUM  
Model: FIREBALL ST2.1S   Rev: 0F0C 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access  
   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Detected scsi disk sda at
scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:   Vendor: MATSHITA 
Model: CD-ROM CR-8005A   Rev: 4.0i 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:   Type:   CD-ROM 
   ANSI SCSI revision: 02 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0
at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:   Vendor: QUANTUM  
Model: CTS80SRev: 4.2  
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access  
   ANSI SCSI revision: 02 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Detected scsi disk sdb at
scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:   Vendor: QUANTUM  
Model: ELS85SRev: 3.09 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access  
   ANSI SCSI revision: 02 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68k kernel: Detected scsi disk sdc at
scsi0, channel 0, id 4, lun 0 
Jan 24 01:07:37 m68

Help me with glibc

[Robert Beranek]

Hello!

Is there anyone that succseed to insatll Glibc 2.1 in Debian 2.1 Slink? If
so, PLEASE help me!!

Thanks,

Robert

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Re: don't want x as default startup

[Matt Folwell]

On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 06:50:43PM +0100, mek wrote:

> it's too late now, i already deleted it. but since that time i cannot startx 
> as
> normal user anymore

Edit /etc/X11/Xserver abd change the second line from RootOnly to Console

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Re: CD-ROM only plays mono??

[Greg Starkes]

Hwei Sheng TEOH wrote:
> 
> I'm using the cdtool package to play audio CD's from my CD-ROM drive. For some
> reason, playing CD's only outputs MONO sound (ie. only to one of my speakers).
> It's not a problem with my speakers since .mp3 and .wav files plays as stereo
> without any problems.
> 
> Is this a software problem or is it a hardware problem? Any suggestions will
> be appreciated. Thanx!! My soundcard is an SB16 and I'm using kernel 2.2.12.

I had the same problem with my awe64. I wasn't getting mono, but
actually getting only the right channel, which sounds like your problem,
since mono would still come from both speakers.

To find out, play a cd that has certain parts that pan from one speaker
to the other. I first noticed my problem when listening to a song that
has a part that switched from right to left, and back. What I heard on
my pc was sound to silence, back to sound.

The problem was caused by the fact that the connector that matched my cd
audio cable was NOT a cd audio input. It was an auxilary input, which
had a different pinout. The cd input was had a different connector. I
guess I should have actually read the labels. So I got the right cable
and all was fine.

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Re: minimal installation

[Chanop Silpa-Anan]

Some what recently, Friedemann Schorer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote about minimal installation

>:) Hi all :-)
>:) I'd like to install Debian on an old 486 machine which only has a 
>:) little 500 MB HDD. Is it possible to install a really _minimal_ 
>:) system from debian disk and CD's (e.g. a preformed profile), which 
>:) runs only the services that are really needed and then can be 
>:) upgraded ? I tried it before with a RH distrib, but it didn't work.
>:) Right now I don't have the Deb CD's, so I can't read docs or so, 
>:) that's why I ask here.

I used to squeeze slink into IPC with 100MB HD with minimal X support. So
don't worry.


Chanop

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minimal installation

[Friedemann Schorer]

Hi all :-)
I'd like to install Debian on an old 486 machine which only has a 
little 500 MB HDD. Is it possible to install a really _minimal_ 
system from debian disk and CD's (e.g. a preformed profile), which 
runs only the services that are really needed and then can be 
upgraded ? I tried it before with a RH distrib, but it didn't work.
Right now I don't have the Deb CD's, so I can't read docs or so, 
that's why I ask here.

Thanks in advance,


Friedemann
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[Robert Marlow]

Re: Batch rename files

[Oleg Krivosheev]

On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:

> 
> What would be the easiest way to rename a bunch of files
> 
> foo-[0-9]-bar-[0-9][0-9].txt
> 
> into
> 
> blah-[0-9]-[0-9][0-9].txt
> 
> Note, that all of the files have identical portions `foo-', `-bar-',
> and `.txt' in the filenames. Different are two numerical parts.
> 
> For example:
> ,
> | group-1-member-01.txt
> | group-1-member-02.txt
> | ...
> | group-2-member-01.txt
> | ...
> `
> 
> The resulting files should have an identical portion `blah', and
> retain the original numerical parts.
> 
> ,
> | result-1-01.txt
> | result-1-02.txt
> | ...
> | result-2-01.txt
> | ...
> `
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions!
> -- 
> Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com
> Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
> 

check for mmv

OK

Re: Cannot mount all CDs

[aphro]

you cannot mount a music cd, it kjust doesnt work :) just tell the cd
player to play directly from the drive (e.g. /dev/cdrom or /dev/scd0
..etc)

nate

On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, David J. Kanter wrote:

djkant >This is odd: I can only mount some of the CDs I've put into my CD-ROM. 
Why?
djkant >
djkant >I've tried 4 CDs: three music CDs and one Quake 3 CD. The Quake CD and 
one
djkant >music CD (which, incidentally, has some Windows videos on it) mount 
fine.
djkant >The other music CDs give me this error when mounting:
djkant >
djkant >milwaukee:/home/david# mount /dev/cdrom 
djkant >mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
djkant >   or too many mounted file systems
djkant >
djkant >What gives? The default mount type is iso9660---could that be the 
problem?
djkant >Are not all CDs iso9660s? I've noticed that when I close the CD tray on 
the
djkant >working CDs, there is a little spin-up that's absent on the CDs that 
won't
djkant >mount. 
djkant >
djkant >Thanks.
djkant >-- 
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Re: pon and pppconfig

[aphro]

On 23 Jan 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

atray >What packages are pon and pppconfig in?
atray >

pon - ppp
pppconfig - pppconfig

(slink, not sure about potato)

nate

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Re: Getting DHCP working with windows

[aphro]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Damon Muller wrote:

dm-deb >I've also tried adding the 255.255.255.255 route as described in the
dm-deb >HOWTO, but it didn't make any difference.

make sure a firewall is not blocking the dhcp broadcasts..the package
'ipmasq' pretty much blocked everything from my machines (including
dhcp) by firewalling all incoming/outgoing packets.

dm-deb >subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
dm-deb >range 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.200;
dm-deb >}

I'm not sure if it makes a difference but i include the router and
broadcast addresses inside the subnet area like:

  subnet 10.10.10.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 10.10.10.10 10.10.10.254;
option broadcast-address 10.10.10.255;
option routers 10.10.10.1;
  }

I'm willing to bet though its a firewall thing.  also check your
daemon.log or dhcp requests/responses.

nate

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Re: Emacs and ~/.Xdefaults

[Eric G . Miller]

You're on target. Here's a sample of my ~/.Xresources copied from the
sample Xdefaults that comes with Xemacs.

Emacs.default.attributeBackground:  white
Emacs.default.attributeForeground:  black

The default Debian setup wants it named .Xresources (as opposed to
.Xdefaults).
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Re: Help(solved)

[Jianbo Wang]

Hi, 

I use "dpkg -i perl-5.005-base_5.005.03-5.2_i386" to overwrite the old
one, and it works.

Jianbo 

Re: Booting problem with AMD Athlon

[Adam Di Carlo]

Alain Birtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I recently bought Debian 2.1 and I tried to install it on my brand new
> PC.
> However I was not capable to make it to the installer.
> 
> When I start from the CD-ROM, I see the boot: prompt, I hit return and
> then it starts loading stuff, like a normal boot does.  However, when
> it arrives at the line
> NCR53c406a: no available ports found
> it hangs there.
> The cursors waits at the beginning of the next line.

Generally, it is the *next* message (the one that doesn't appear)
which is the trouble-maker.

> Some people told me that, because of my Athlon processor, I should try
> boot floppies with potato.

True.

> I made the floppies and was able to boot from the rescue floppy.  It
> asked me for the root disk and I put it in.
> 
> It loads the the ramdisk, free some memory, then freezes.
> 
> here is the log:
> VFS: Insert root floppy disk to be loaded into RAM disk and press
> ENTER
> RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
> Freeing unused kernel memory: 140k freed
> _ 

Very strange!

> Here is the list of my hardware:
> AMD Athlon 550 Mgz
> 1 IDE hard-disk: 13 gig
> 128 meg of RAM
> Nothing SCSI
> FUJITSU motherboard (AMI BIOS )
> Sceptre Monitor 17 inch (VGA comptible)
> S3 Trio3D/2X cheap graphic card
> Ethernet card: StarTech
> 
> Do you have any idea of what could be wrong?

Not offhand.  We will be uploading a new potato boot-floppies (2.2.5)
soon, which is 2.2.14 based.  Maybe that will fare better.  If not,
we'll file a bug against the kernel, that is, file a bug against
kernel-image-2.2.14.

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Re: mail problem

[aphro]

On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Allan M. Wind wrote:

wind >Is this the correct format?

from what i could see on www.sendmail.org it is ..

wind >Hmm... that sounds like normal behavior to me.  If you serve the
wind >domain and the user doesn't exist, sendmail should correctly
wind >reject mail.

i'd hope it would see the MX of the domain is the other machineand send it
on over.

wind >You need to be more specific.  With "hosted" do you mean that the name
wind >server for aphroland.org is running on galactica?  What do you mean by
wind >the latter ".. while the MX is on bebo"?

aphroland.org's IP is bound to galactica's ethernet card..while the MX for
that domain is bound to bebo's ethernet card.

wind >Is there any particular reason, why you don't just give me the MX
wind >records and the sendmail config?

i could..as it is now though not much is changed..i'll tar up the stuff
here and send it to you(privatly) every single MX record is going to
mail.firetrail.com (bebo.firetrail.com)

nate

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9:29pm up 157 days, 9:35, 1 user, load average: 1.01, 1.02, 1.00

Purpose of shutdown and halt users

[Andrew Pollock]

Hi,

Is there any purpose for the shutdown and halt users? Is the intention there
so that you can give operators an alternative means of shutting down a
server other than giving them the root password?

Thanks in advance

Andrew


Andrew Pollock
Asia Online ABC Project
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Help

[Jianbo Wang]

Hi,

I am running potato with 2.2.13 kernel. I screw up perl. So perl 5.004 is
broken and cannot be removed. dpkg-preconfig is a perl script, so my
upgrade failed. I try to the following command
dpkg --purge perl-5.004
apt-get -f install
It seems that apt-get depends on perl, and i cannot clean up perl 5.004
and perl 5.005 cannot be installed. Even I try to use dselect to remove
perl-5.004, some error happened and perl-5.004 is still there. Any help
will be appreciated!


Jianbo 

Re: pon and pppconfig

[ktb]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> What packages are pon and pppconfig in?
> 
> Adam

Try 'dpkg -S pon' and 'dpkg -S pppconfig'
hth,
kent

Re: Removing unwanted files at installation time

[John Foster]

Wichert Akkerman wrote:

> (this shouldn't really be in debian-user, I'll set the Reply-To
> accordingly)
>
> Previously MiniVend wrote:
> > 1. Be able to select which processor that system uses, i386, m68, alpha,
> > etc from a menu. such that when the selection is made all installed
> > software does NOT include references to processors that are not
> > necessary. This would eliminate about half of the Kernel stuff that I do
> > not need for starters.
>
> Where exactly?

I was referencing the kernel package. It seems to have a lot of stuff I do
not require for my i386 CPU but when I have removed/deleted some of these
from the tree in the past, it screwed up my dpkg dependencies. This resulted
in being unable to use dpkg to remove what it assumed were half installed
programs. This is MY interpretation of the situation and may very well be
incorrect. I would welcome any insight regarding this.

> An install is always architecture-specific and you won't
> see anything about other architectures.
>
> > 2. Be able to select which language a system uses; so that all
> > references to other languages are NOT installed from any software
> > packages. i.e. I do not need docs in Polish, Chinese,  French, or
> > Japanese-- so these are NOT installed.
>
> Very hard to do since they are shipped together for most programs.. The
> trivial solution would be to split out all languages into packages but
> that would increase the number of packages a lot and actually not help
> at all. You could do it by excluding certain parts of the filesystem
> hierarchy during installs perhaps, but at the moment the packaging
> system doesn't support that. At some point it might, but that might not
> be in the near future.

This is exactly the feature that I am seeking. It is a fact that I am
somewhat of a perfectionist with regard to my installations. My main goal is
to have the cleanest installs possible with the fewest distractions from
non-essential features. I really appreciate the efficiency of the current
packaging system. My concern is that the entire Debian GNU/Linux systems is
very likely to double in available size in the next several releases. Since I
rely on this  distro as my main source of applications, I want it to be as
efficient and as customizable as possible. If nothing else comes of this
thread, then perhaps these notions could be included in some wish for future
Debian packaging features. Thanks for your replies.

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Re: Emacs and ~/.Xdefaults

[Christian Lynbech on satellite]

I am no expert on X11 ressources, but here is a few ideas. Beware that
this is based on a mental image I have built for myself which may have
anywhere between 0 and 100 % resemblance to reality.

First note that X11 distinguishes between an applications *class* and
its *name*.

So you could try writing

Emacs.background: Black

To set a default for all applications in the Emacs class.

I guess that lowercase entries are then referring to actual
application names. The (resource) name of an application defaults to
the executables name, but may be modified with the standard X11 option
of -name. Thus you could also have written:

foobar.background: Black

and then invoke emacs as

emacs -name foobar -title my-foobar

The -title is just to set the titlebar of the window.

This may also explain why the "emacs." setting was working from
.xsession but not with fvwm. You were referring to the name, but if
fvwm somehow changes this (resource wise), you will be in trouble.

You can experiment from a shell. Apparently, emacs looks into
.Xdefaults whenever it starts. Just add -q to avoid reading your
.emacs.

You could also handle this from within your .emacs. You could say
stuff such as:

  (if (eq window-system 'x)
  (progn
(setq default-frame-alist 
  (cons (cons '(background-color . "white")
'(foreground-color . "black")
default-frame-alist )))
(modify-frame-parameters nil default-frame-alist)))



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GnomeICU dies

[Ron Farrer]

Hello all;

I'm running potato (updated 2000-01-22) and GnomeICU has been dying with
this error for *several* weeks: 

Gdk-ERROR **: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)
  serial 9 error_code 9 request_code 134 minor_code 1

Sometimes it runs for 1 second and other times for as long as 10, but
always dies with that. I kept hoping this would be fixed but as of
Saturday it hasn't been.  

Any ideas?


TIA,

Ron 

Re: Batch rename files

[Shao Zhang]

A quick solution that pops out of my head, but it is pretty stupid,
and certainly not the easiest:

ls -1 > rename;
cat rename;
group-1-member-01.txt  
group-1-member-02.txt  
group-2-member-01.txt  

vi rename; then do the following:

:1,$s/\([a-z]*\)\(-[0-9]-\)\([a-z\-]*\)\([a-z0-9\.]*\)/\1\2\3\4 result\2\4/g

:1,$s/^/mv /g

exit out vi, and cat rename:

mv group-1-member-01.txt result-1-01.txt
mv group-1-member-02.txt result-1-02.txt
mv group-2-member-01.txt result-2-01.txt


chmod +x rename;

./rename


Hope this helps.

Shao.

Arcady Genkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What would be the easiest way to rename a bunch of files
> 
> foo-[0-9]-bar-[0-9][0-9].txt
> 
> into
> 
> blah-[0-9]-[0-9][0-9].txt
> 
> Note, that all of the files have identical portions `foo-', `-bar-',
> and `.txt' in the filenames. Different are two numerical parts.
> 
> For example:
> ,
> | group-1-member-01.txt
> | group-1-member-02.txt
> | ...
> | group-2-member-01.txt
> | ...
> `
> 
> The resulting files should have an identical portion `blah', and
> retain the original numerical parts.
> 
> ,
> | result-1-01.txt
> | result-1-02.txt
> | ...
> | result-2-01.txt
> | ...
> `
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions!
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Re: Cannot mount all CDs

[Eric G . Miller]

Generally we don't mount music CDROM's to play them. I don't think music
CD's are iso9660 (most of the time).
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Re: Batch rename files

[Maciej Kalisiak]

On Sun, Jan 23, 2000 at 10:54:42PM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> What would be the easiest way to rename a bunch of files
> 
> foo-[0-9]-bar-[0-9][0-9].txt
> 
> into
> 
> blah-[0-9]-[0-9][0-9].txt

Try the attached Perl script (just put it in a directory that's in your path
and make it executable).  To do what you want you just give the following
command in your shell:

$ rename 's{foo-(.)-bar-(..)\.txt}{blah-\1-\2.txt}' *.txt

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# Usage: rename perlexpr [files]

($op = shift) || die "Usage: rename perlexpr [filenames]\n";
if ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) {
@ARGV = ;
chop(@ARGV);
}
for (@ARGV) {
$was = $_;
eval $op;
die $@ if $@;
rename($was,$_) unless $was eq $_;
}