Re: netscape 4.5 crashes (altmailer and mutt)

2000-01-30 Thread Peter Ross
On 30-Jan-2000, J Horacio MG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just compiled altmailer to have mutt as my netscape mailer, and the damned 
> thing (netscape navigator 4.5) crashes everytime I click on a mailto: url.  
> Any chance of having this fixed?
> 
This is a netscape bug, I believe the work around is to set your reply
to field in the preferences section.

Pete


Re: How to back-out an apt-get upgrade

2000-01-30 Thread Michel Dänzer


Nick Willson wrote:

> Can an apt-get upgrade (or similar) be backed-out?  Say the upgrade appears
> to fail, is there a way to rollback to the previous state?  I am running
> 2.1.

APT stores the package files in /var/cache/apt/archives .

The older version(s) should still be there.


Michel


PS: You might be interested in 'apt-get autoclean'

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Re: help with kernel compiling

2000-01-30 Thread Michel Dänzer


"Dwayne C . Litzenberger" wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 12:25:19PM -0800, aphro wrote:
> > what compiler? its suggested you use gcc 2.7.2.3 or egcs 1.1 ..probably
> > should avoid anything newer its likely to cause problems like that
> >
> > nate
> 
> I've been compiling with gcc 2.95.2, and things work fine (for the 2.2
> tree, anyway).

The same thing for me with 2.3.40


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Re: hard disk error

2000-01-30 Thread Konrad Mierendorff
Gerardo Garcia Alvarez wrote:
> 
> I get this error when the kernel starts
> 
> Partition check:
> hda: hda1
> hdb:hdb: set_multmode: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> hdb: set_multmode: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
> hdb1 hdb2
> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.

You should take a look the helptext for  "Use multi-mode by default" in
the "Block devices" section of the Kernel-configuration. 

- Konrad Mierendorff


Re: Video problems

2000-01-30 Thread paul
> I have tried to setup Caldera's linux x11 Windows for the first time and =
> I am finding it imposible. Surely, someone can design a default =
> configuration setup easier than this! I find it hard to believe that =
> after two days I still cannot get a Window on the screen not even 16 =
> colour vga!=20

I believe that Caldera has their own mailing list.  I'll try to help 
regardless.
You need to be able to answer these questions in order to configure XFree86:

1)What video card are you using?  
2)What chipset does it use?  
3)How much videoram does it have? 
4)What are the horizontal sync capabilities of your monitor?  
5)What are the vertical sync capabilities of your monitor?
6)What kind of mouse are you using?

The XFree86-HOW-TO will help to explain the questions, and to help you explain 
your difficulties with XFree86.  It can be found (on Debian systems, but maybe 
Caldera also) in /usr/doc/HOWTO.
> 
> As someone new to Linus it seems obvious hat it should default to a =
> standard vga mode, as per MS Windows.
>

X is very different from MS Windows.  It would be both impractical and 
undesirable for such a "default mode" to be implemented.  After you have some 
experience with XFree86, you will understand why.

I would recommend that you use this offered information to get help from 
Caldera, but if this is impractical, I am willing to help.  I can't say the 
same for the others on debian-user as they must speak for themselves. ;-)
  
-ptw-



Re: help with kernel compiling

2000-01-30 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
On Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 12:25:19PM -0800, aphro wrote:
> what compiler? its suggested you use gcc 2.7.2.3 or egcs 1.1 ..probably
> should avoid anything newer its likely to cause problems like that
> 
> nate

I've been compiling with gcc 2.95.2, and things work fine (for the 2.2
tree, anyway).  I even have the reiserfs and pcsp patches (and my own
numlock-on-by-default patch), and it still works fine.

One question, though, why would you use 2.2.13 instead of 2.2.14?
 
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ProFTPd bandwidth limits working?

2000-01-30 Thread Bruce Perens
Has anyone gotten the ProFTPd bandwidth limits to work? I just tried them and
no joy.

Bruce


Re: problem writing CDs

2000-01-30 Thread hubert . fauque
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Did you change blank type?
I have tried with the same blanks that worked; still error
 
> Could be software. Did you update cdrecord between it writing and it not
> writing?
yes

I will try with an old cdrecord.
I also updated the kernel so this could be a driver error;

the error sometimes happens at the beginning and sometimes
it writes 630Mo before the error;

> Could still be hardware. Mine was. :/ The cheap Memorex green/silver
> noname blanks flaked apart in my drive and shot the write laser. I sent it
> back for repair, and now it no longer recognises those blanks. ;P

I even could write a short CD without error so I don't think
the laser is out of order.

Hubert


Re: Broken Debian Installations

2000-01-30 Thread rick
Pavel Epifanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
> Dear Brian,
> 
> I understand that POTATO is not released yet. But still this
> situation with broken installations was repeated several times for last
> months:
> 
> 1) unknown script had changed a permission of root directory
> 2) kbd script asked for re-configiration of keyboard with low priority
> and "with help" of debconf setup the french keyboard layout
> 3) netscape has been removed due to dependency mistake
> 
> All above are very serious problems which required a lot of knowledge
> of system to recover. You normally can't protect well agains such
> changes as soon as you need to be root to install them.
> 
> Do you know a way to protect systems from such mistakes ?
> Full system backup before _every_ installation does not looks 
> as best decision for the usual workstation computer.

I'm not Brian but here goes.

There were some crippling mistakes by packagers in potato while
it was unstable.  But unstable is assumed to be for those who
are familiar enough with Debian to get themselves out of trouble.
These users are helping to test the distribution before it
becomes the next stable.

It's been a problem this last round in that stable is
very old and lacking some useful (and necessary for some)
features.  So many moved on to potato.  It looks like
future cycles will be much shorter.

Some things you can do if you want to stay cutting-edge are to
wait several days after major packages are updated -- libc, perl,
bash the things that will cripple your system if you have
troubles with them.  During those days watch the bug report list
and deb-user and deb-devel.  Don't be a guinea pig unless you're
confident you can get out of trouble.  Another thing you can do
is download a few known good packages of the major apps and hide
them in a corner somewhere so you can downgrade if things go so
nuts you can't bring anything in.

I'd also recommend staying away from dselect.  apt-get upgrade
will allow you to break out in the cases where some new package
decides it wants to remove dozens of conflicting packages.
Dselect seems to just go ahead and do it.

Rick


Re: problem writing CDs

2000-01-30 Thread ferret

Did you change blank type?

Could be software. Did you update cdrecord between it writing and it not
writing?

Could still be hardware. Mine was. :/ The cheap Memorex green/silver
noname blanks flaked apart in my drive and shot the write laser. I sent it
back for repair, and now it no longer recognises those blanks. ;P

On 30 Jan 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> I used to write CDs with cdrecord without problem;
> but now almost every time I try to write a CD
> it ends with a SCSI error:
> 
> cdrecord: Input/output error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: retryable 
> error
> CDB:  5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
> Sense Bytes: F0 00 05 00 00 00 00 28 00 07 F3 17 2C 04 00 00
> Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
> Sense Code: 0x2C Qual 0x04 (current program area is empty) Fru 0x0
> Sense flags: Blk 0 (valid) 
> cmd finished after 0.016s timeout 480s
> 
> I haven't changed anything to the hardware; 
> I am using potato on a Celeron 333;
> do you think it's a hardware error? 
> 
> thanks for helping
> 
> Hubert
> 
> 
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Re: Sound on IBM Thinkpad 390E

2000-01-30 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Wed, Jan 26, 2000 at 04:06:40PM -0600, Bryan K. Walton wrote:
> insmod soundcore
> insmod esssolo1
> mixctrl 7 0
> mixctrl 0 100
> mixctrl 4 100
> 

I am using Alsa and have no problems at all - Works like a charm ...

conf.modules excerpt ...

---
# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF verion 0.4.0 ---
alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-es1938
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm1-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm1-oss
options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=1 snd_device_mode=0660 snd_device_gid=
29 snd_device_uid=0
options snd-card-es1938 snd_index=1 snd_id=CARD_1
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
---

Suspend/Resume doesnt work (Doesnt work for IRDA either) and i have a
"Feature Request" open :)

Flo
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Re: Error when PPP starts up

2000-01-30 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sun, Jan 30, 2000 at 02:57:15PM -0500, Marc Sherman wrote:
> I'm running potato, with pppoe to connect to my ISP.
> When pppd starts at boot time, I get the following error
> message:
> Couldn't open pty slave /dev/pts/0: No such file or directory
> 
> What does this message mean?  There is indeed no /dev/pts/0;
> infact, there are no files/dirs named /dev/pt*.  Do I have
> to create this device using MAKEDEV?
> 

There's currently a bug with /etc/init.d/devpts.sh which is supposed to
set-up the mounts.

Fix the script by making the last brace of the function make_devpts()
a closing brace rather than an opening brace. Then re-run it.
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Video problems

2000-01-30 Thread RL.Bateman



I have tried to setup Caldera's linux x11 Windows 
for the first time and I am finding it imposible. Surely, someone can design a 
default configuration setup easier than this! I find it hard to believe that 
after two days I still cannot get a Window on the screen not even 16 colour vga! 

 
As someone new to Linus it seems obvious hat it 
should default to a standard vga mode, as per MS Windows.
 
If I cannot get it going tomorrow I will have to 
revert to hated Gates products.


Re: netscape 4.5 crashes (altmailer and mutt)

2000-01-30 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sun, Jan 30, 2000 at 07:23:04PM +0100, J Horacio MG wrote:
> Just compiled altmailer to have mutt as my netscape mailer, and the damned 
> thing (netscape navigator 4.5) crashes everytime I click on a mailto: url.  
> Any chance of having this fixed?

  I tried that and never got it to work either...
> 
> Also, the ~/.netscape/preferences.js file cannot be changed with vim as
> a user, but it worked when I changed it as root with nvi, is this the way 
> I am supposed to change such a file?

That is very wrong. You should be the owner of that file, so I don't
know why you can't change it. It should have perms "-rw-r--r--".

Also, make sure Netscape is closed first, though. Otherwise, it'll just
overwrite your changes.

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Error when PPP starts up

2000-01-30 Thread Marc Sherman
I'm running potato, with pppoe to connect to my ISP.
When pppd starts at boot time, I get the following error
message:
Couldn't open pty slave /dev/pts/0: No such file or directory

What does this message mean?  There is indeed no /dev/pts/0;
infact, there are no files/dirs named /dev/pt*.  Do I have
to create this device using MAKEDEV?

Thanks,
- Marc



apt-get upgrade: config fails

2000-01-30 Thread Robb Aley Allan
This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Robb Aley Allan" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>
Be sure to reply to that address.

New to Debian and having a funny problem. Recently
performed a dist-upgrade from slink to potato with
no problem. Lots of packages were "held back".
However, when I performed a straight upgrade
thereafter, many new packages were downloaded
(inc'g auctex and cvs), but when the config phase
started, both auctex and cvs threw up a graphics
mode config dialog that would not accept any
keypresses: I had to ctl-C back to the prompt,
aborting all further configs. What gives?

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Re: dselect and mc

2000-01-30 Thread John Leget
Just locate the files in question on your cd's and install them manually

ie " dpkg -i < filename>"

cheers

Michael Zielinski wrote:

> The Debian web-site tutorial mentioned using Midnight Commander (mc),
> so I thought I would try it out.  I do not have it on my system
> (version 2.1), so I ran dselect to install it.
>
> I found it in the list and it had a couple of dependancies (gpm and
> libgpmg1).  I accepted those to be installed also.  The first time I
> tried to install, I had forgotten to mount my CD.  I mounted my CD and
> re-ran dselect and removed the 3 packages.  I then selected mc and the
> dependancies for install again.  None of the 3 packages installed.  I
> get the following errors.  (This is my first attempt at dselect, so
> please give me as much detail as you can).
>
> I did my original Basic install from this CD, so I know it is working.
> If it makes a difference, this is the CD that came with the O'Reilly
> book.
>
> Err File:/cdrom/ stable/main gpm1_14-3
>   File not found
> Err File:/cdrom/ stable/main libgpmg1_14-3
>   File not found
> Err File:/cdrom/ stable/main mc 4.5.1-1.1
>   File not found
> Failed to fetch
> file:/cdrom/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/misc/gpm1_14-3.deb
>   File not found
> Failed to fetch
> file:/cdrom/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/libs/libgpmg1_1.14-3.deb
>   File not found
> Failed to fetch
> file:/cdrom/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/utils/mc_4.5.1-1.1.deb
>   File not found
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
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problem writing CDs

2000-01-30 Thread hubert . fauque

I used to write CDs with cdrecord without problem;
but now almost every time I try to write a CD
it ends with a SCSI error:

cdrecord: Input/output error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: retryable error
CDB:  5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: F0 00 05 00 00 00 00 28 00 07 F3 17 2C 04 00 00
Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x2C Qual 0x04 (current program area is empty) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (valid) 
cmd finished after 0.016s timeout 480s

I haven't changed anything to the hardware; 
I am using potato on a Celeron 333;
do you think it's a hardware error? 

thanks for helping

Hubert


netscape 4.5 crashes (altmailer and mutt)

2000-01-30 Thread J Horacio MG
Just compiled altmailer to have mutt as my netscape mailer, and the damned 
thing (netscape navigator 4.5) crashes everytime I click on a mailto: url.  
Any chance of having this fixed?

Also, the ~/.netscape/preferences.js file cannot be changed with vim as
a user, but it worked when I changed it as root with nvi, is this the way 
I am supposed to change such a file?

p.s. (please, send me a cc)  running 2.2.10, libc 2.1.2-10, and a mixed
slink/potato system.


TIA

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Re: crash diagnostics

2000-01-30 Thread Werner Reisberger
On Sat, Jan 29, 2000 at 11:31:30AM -0800, aphro wrote:
> try running your mahcine w/o a swap partition setup to see if the problem
> persists, (its just a shot in the dark..) you may have bad sectors on the
> drive where the swap partition resides.

Is it possible to start linux w/o a swap partition? I checked the drive
(UW-SCSI) with the diagnostic program of the Adaptec-Controller and didn't 
found any bad blocks.

I think it's rather a problem with the RAM. I just checked a core after
a program failed with seg fault. The message found ("Cannot access memory
in 0xa346e32") points to a RAM problem. I think I really have to exchange my 
RAM.

 Werner


winmodem revisited

2000-01-30 Thread Michael Zielinski
I recently found a couple sites of interest on winmodems.  If missed
their references in the recent discussion, I apologize.

http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
http://linmodems.org/


Mike



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dselect and mc

2000-01-30 Thread Michael Zielinski
The Debian web-site tutorial mentioned using Midnight Commander (mc),
so I thought I would try it out.  I do not have it on my system
(version 2.1), so I ran dselect to install it.

I found it in the list and it had a couple of dependancies (gpm and
libgpmg1).  I accepted those to be installed also.  The first time I
tried to install, I had forgotten to mount my CD.  I mounted my CD and
re-ran dselect and removed the 3 packages.  I then selected mc and the
dependancies for install again.  None of the 3 packages installed.  I
get the following errors.  (This is my first attempt at dselect, so
please give me as much detail as you can).  

I did my original Basic install from this CD, so I know it is working. 
If it makes a difference, this is the CD that came with the O'Reilly
book.

Err File:/cdrom/ stable/main gpm1_14-3
  File not found
Err File:/cdrom/ stable/main libgpmg1_14-3
  File not found
Err File:/cdrom/ stable/main mc 4.5.1-1.1
  File not found
Failed to fetch
file:/cdrom/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/misc/gpm1_14-3.deb
  File not found
Failed to fetch
file:/cdrom/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/libs/libgpmg1_1.14-3.deb
  File not found
Failed to fetch
file:/cdrom/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/utils/mc_4.5.1-1.1.deb
  File not found

Thanks,
Mike




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Re: Way test CD-Rom Drive for read capability w/Linux Needed

2000-01-30 Thread Mike Werner
On Sun, Jan 30, 2000 at 03:46:44PM +, John Foster wrote:
> I have recently noticed that my Cd-Rom drive seems to be skipping. I
> noticed it while running windows one day but it seemed to clear up when
> I went back to Linux. Now it is doing the same thing in linux. This
> happens when playing music. I have not noticed any problems in reading
> other CD's. Is there an application to test the read capability  of this
> with Linux. It is about 3 years old and should not be crapping out as it
> is only rarely used. Thanks!

When's the last time you cleaned the lens of that drive?  If it's been a
while that could be all that needs done.  Those lenses have a tendancy to
collect grunge even if they are rarely used - we've had similar problems
here at home with a number of different drives, CD and others.  Ran a
cleaning cycle and the drive started working a lot better.
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Re: Misskey resulted in chown entire directory tree

2000-01-30 Thread George Swan

On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, Pavel Epifanov wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, John Foster wrote:
> 
> >=that the result is the changing of the owner/group of every file on my
> >=complete directory tree to a single username.groupname. Any Suggestions

> Please correct me if I missed one way.

I sent a suggestion privately to John.  I probably should have sent it
publicly.  So I am going to post it publicly now.  

Note:  This only works for user's home directories, and it will be
confused by original hard links.

For those who don't read awk, the password file is separated into
7 fields by colons.  This program separates those fields, checks to
see if the field that contains the user's home directory contains
/home, then it recursively chowns all the files in that home
directory back to the proper user and group.

> > awk -F: '
> > {
> > user  = $1
> > group = $4
> > home  = $6
> > }
> > home ~ /^\/home\// {
> > cmd = sprintf( "chown -R %s:%s %s", user, group, home )
> > system( cmd )
> > }
> > ' /etc/passwd

> > Of course you would have to be root first.


Re: T-Shirts

2000-01-30 Thread Gregory T. Norris
I particularly like the "100% Suck Free!" version.

I'll have to see about getting a few to hand out at the next LUG
meeting... maybe along with a few css_descramble shirts!

On Sat, Jan 29, 2000 at 11:15:38PM -0800, Darren O. Benham wrote:
> I am happy to announce that Debian T-Shirts are available from
> Copyleft, the Free Software "goodies" outfitter...
> 
> Check out http://www.copyleft.net/ 


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Font doesnt work on X, so please help me.

2000-01-30 Thread SaitohTakeNami
Hi everybody. 
I need your help on XFree86. I installed XFree86 3.3.6 running 
on Debian 2.0. After I did XF86Setup, X-windows opened, but fonts 
do not work. I mean I cannot see any character except for some vertical bars
in the windows. I found all fonts in the correct directory (at least if I 
understood 
correctly.  My video card is ATI Rage Fury which has been supported in the 
XFree86
which I am now using. Please help me otherwise I don't know how I can fix the 
problem. 
 Thank you, Take Saitoh
 


Way test CD-Rom Drive for read capability w/Linux Needed

2000-01-30 Thread John Foster
I have recently noticed that my Cd-Rom drive seems to be skipping. I
noticed it while running windows one day but it seemed to clear up when
I went back to Linux. Now it is doing the same thing in linux. This
happens when playing music. I have not noticed any problems in reading
other CD's. Is there an application to test the read capability  of this
with Linux. It is about 3 years old and should not be crapping out as it
is only rarely used. Thanks!
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Re: Misskey resulted in chown entire directory tree

2000-01-30 Thread John Foster
Pavel Epifanov wrote: 
> I have done the same lately on /usr. Very funny.
> 
> The possible solutions as I can see are:
> 
> = if you have a backup - restore it. Preferred way I afraid. Did not work
> for me because daily potato upgrades.
> 
> = if you have Tripware installed - there is a check for permissions as well.
> Does not work for me as well because reason above (very frequent updates).
> 
> = Using existed Tripware database and perl/bash script to recover
> permissions only. Occasionally I have no time to find out the format
> of Tripware database and make script. Have someone done it already ?
> 
> = The way I am going to use - reinstall Potato as soon as it will
> be released. It should be OK for my test computer. And it also
> remove a lot of garbage from dpkg/apt status file.
> 
> Please correct me if I missed one way.

Since this box was pretty thouroughly screwed, I decided to experiment
with it's system. I got several suggestions, one of them from George
Swan, shown below, was partially successful in restoring the system to
working order. I was also able to log in as root and manually change the
ownership of the main system directories back to root. As soon as I had
these system commands working, I upgraded to potato, even though it has
some pretty rough sections at present. It seems to have cleaned up most
of the problems, everything is working now including all of my
non-debian stuff such as StarOffice, Wordperfect, and several others. I
did check and a few of the /etc/dev files were also changed to the
correct ownership. I do NOT think all of them were changed back to their
original installation state. Since everything is running OK I will
continue to use this box as my test site. I have converted my former
test site to a full production system as it did not have any problems.
Feel free to check back with me if you have other questions.


> George Swan wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, John Foster wrote:
> > 
> > Well, the following would be a start:
> > 
> > awk -F: '
> > {
> > user = $1
> > group = $4
> > home  = $6
> > }
> > home ~ /^\/home\// {
> > cmd = sprintf( "chown -R %s:%s
%s", user, group, home )
> > system( cmd )
> > }
> > ' /etc/passwd
> > 
> > Of course you would have to be root first.
>
EXPLANATION OF SCRIPT:
It is an awk program.  Everything between the quotes
is an awk
program.  You see the awk on the first line?  Well it
has three
arguments.  The first one is " -F: ", the second one
is the program
between the quotes, and the third one is "
/etc/passwd ".

/etc/passwd is your password file.  The original
design of UNIX was
that the password file would be universally readable.
Lots of
programs read it to discover what a user's real name
is.  The
passwords are encrypted, which used to be secure.
Nowadays most
systems keep the actual password in an unreadable
file /etc/shadow,
byt the file is still called the password file.
 
It contains one entry per user and each user's
description has seven
fields.  The first field is the user's login name.
The 2nd field is
their password.  The 3rd field is your numeric user
id.  This is what
is stored in a file's inode, not your name.  The
fourth field is your
default group id number.  There will be a
corresponding name for this
number in /etc/group.  Each file's inode also
contains a group id.  
But not necessarily the default one.  The 5th field,
historically was
the GECOS field.  On original Bell Labs UNIX systems
it contained the
user's password for their honeywell GECOS account.
Used if they were
printing on the GECOS printer, or submitting a batch
job to the GECOS
system.  Nowadays it is divided up into sub-fields
that contain the
user's name, office number, phone number and so on.
The 6th field
contains the user's home directory.  And the 7th
field contains their
default login shell.

So the awk program opens the password file.  For
every line it assigns
three variables, "user", "group", and "home".  That
is the stuff
between the first pair of braces.  The stuff between
the second set of
braces only gets executed conditionally.  The
variable "home" has to
match a regular expression.  It has to start with
"/home". On UNIX not
every user in the password file is a real human
being. Some are
"daemons". Daemons do regular, lower priority system
tasks.  They sit
around all the time, wake up, check to see if there
is anything for
them to do, and then go to sleep.  When a daemon
doesn't need to be
run as root, it typically used to be run as the user
daemon.  But then
some daemons, like uucp, got userids of their own.
This script is
only supposed to change the ownership of the files in
the home
directories of real live users.

Which brings us the stuff between the 2nd pair of
braces. sprintf
builds a string, called cmd, which conta

Re: where can I find info on how to install a iomega zip disk in debian?

2000-01-30 Thread paul
On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, john said"
> hello,
> 
> I was wondering on where can I get documentation on how to install a iomega 
> zip disk to debian. I can't seem to find any man pages on that subject.
> 
> thank you.
> __

see the Zip-Drive Mini How-To.  It should be in /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini.

-ptw


Upgrade 2.0 -> 2.1: Should I stay or should I go?

2000-01-30 Thread Erik van der Meulen
Hi, I have a Debian 2.0 box, which I would like to upgrade to 2.1.
I have, some time ago, manually upgraded to libc6 v.2.1 because I
wanted to use mutt1.0.
Now if I follow instructions on:

  
http://www.nl.debian.org/releases/slink/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html

it tells me to get: apt_0.1.8_i386
Installing this conflicts with my version of libc6, so I got apt_0.3.10slink11
This did install allright.
Now if I pursue  with: apt-get -f -s dist-upgrade, I receive the following
error information:

E: Fatal, conflicts violated libc6
E: Fatal, conflicts violated libc6
E: Fatal, conflicts violated libc6
E: Fatal, conflicts violated libc6
E: Fatal, conflicts violated libc6
E: Fatal, conflicts violated libc6
E: Fatal, conflicts violated libc6

Along with the output of the command which is:

Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  timezones 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libncurses4 libjpeg62 kbd-data samba-common 
The following packages have been kept back
  whiptail lynx util-linux ae 
90 packages upgraded, 4 newly installed, 1 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Inst zlib1g [libc6 on timezones] [php3 libc6 ]
Inst perl [libc6 on timezones] [php3 libc6 ]
Inst perl-base [libc6 on timezones] [php3 libc6 ]
Conf perl-base [php3 libc6 ]
Inst mime-support [libc6 on timezones] [php3 libc6 ]
Inst apache [libc6 on timezones] [php3 libc6 ]
Inst apache-common [libc6 on timezones] [libc6 ]
Inst php3 [libc6 on timezones] [libc6 ]
Remv timezones
Inst libncurses4
Conf libncurses4
Inst bash
Conf bash
Inst dpkg
Conf dpkg
Inst mount
Conf mount
Inst sysvinit
Conf sysvinit
Inst shellutils
Conf shellutils
Inst bsdutils
Conf bsdutils
Inst debianutils
Conf debianutils
Inst diff
Conf diff
Inst e2fsprogs
Conf e2fsprogs
Inst findutils
Conf findutils
Inst grep
Conf grep
Inst gzip
Conf gzip
Inst sed
Conf sed
Inst tar
Conf tar
Inst base-files
Conf base-files
Inst ncurses-base
Conf ncurses-base
Inst ncurses-bin
Conf ncurses-bin
Inst libreadlineg2
Conf libreadlineg2
Inst netstd
Inst elvis-tiny
Inst libc5
Inst libdb2
Inst netbase
Inst m4
Inst procmail
Inst deliver
Inst sendmail
Inst at
Inst bc
Inst bsdmainutils
Inst cron
Inst groff
Inst lilo
Inst man-db
Inst kbd []
Inst kbd-data
Inst makedev
Inst modutils
Inst procps
Inst setserial
Inst sysklogd
Inst cpp
Inst data-dumper
Inst libnet-perl
Inst dpkg-ftp
Inst elm-me+
Inst gpm
Inst ncurses3.4
Conf ncurses3.4
Inst ispell
Inst iamerican
Inst ibritish
Inst less
Inst liblockfile0
Inst sharutils
Inst apache-doc
Inst archie
Inst dhcp-beta
Inst dhcpcd
Inst ee
Inst idutch
Inst libgpmg1
Inst libjpeg62
Inst libjpegg6a
Inst libstdc++2.8
Conf libstdc++2.8
Inst libtiff3g
Inst magicfilter
Inst mc
Inst metamail
Inst modconf
Inst netpbm1
Inst netpbm
Inst netpbm-nonfree
Inst procmail-lib
Inst samba-common
Inst syslinux
Inst xntp3
Inst xntp3-doc
Inst dpkg-mountable
Inst isapnptools
Inst lprng
Inst lprng-doc
Inst mgetty
Inst mgetty-docs
Inst mgetty-fax
Inst samba
Inst uucp
Conf zlib1g
Conf perl
Conf mime-support
Conf apache-common
Conf apache
Conf php3
Conf netstd
Conf elvis-tiny
Conf libc5
Conf libdb2
Conf netbase
Conf m4
Conf procmail
Conf deliver
Conf sendmail
Conf at
Conf bc
Conf bsdmainutils
Conf cron
Conf groff
Conf lilo
Conf man-db
Conf kbd-data
Conf kbd
Conf makedev
Conf modutils
Conf procps
Conf setserial
Conf sysklogd
Conf cpp
Conf data-dumper
Conf libnet-perl
Conf dpkg-ftp
Conf elm-me+
Conf gpm
Conf ispell
Conf iamerican
Conf ibritish
Conf less
Conf liblockfile0
Conf sharutils
Conf apache-doc
Conf archie
Conf dhcp-beta
Conf dhcpcd
Conf ee
Conf idutch
Conf libgpmg1
Conf libjpeg62
Conf libjpegg6a
Conf libtiff3g
Conf magicfilter
Conf mc
Conf metamail
Conf modconf
Conf netpbm1
Conf netpbm
Conf netpbm-nonfree
Conf procmail-lib
Conf samba-common
Conf syslinux
Conf xntp3
Conf xntp3-doc
Conf dpkg-mountable
Conf isapnptools
Conf lprng
Conf lprng-doc
Conf mgetty
Conf mgetty-docs
Conf mgetty-fax
Conf samba
Conf uucp

Now my question really is: can I pursue with the upgrade (and will
apt know that my libc6 is already on par)? Or do I need to do
something drastic and unload libc6 or something? Maybe even forget
about the whole thing? I am a little scared...

Any pointers much appreciated!

--
  Erik van der Meulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


parse-xf86config error?

2000-01-30 Thread David J. Kanter
I updated my X packages and ran into a problem: when rebooting xdm would not
start up automatically because there was a "parse-xf86config" error.
I was left at the console prompt and had to type startx, and everything
worked fine.

Below is the error ouput when trying to update the X packages. This is
remarkably similar to the errors I was getting at boot time.

Does anyone know what's going on? Thanks.

Setting up xserver-svga (3.3.6-3) ...
/usr/sbin/parse-xf86config:D:35: Impossible parser error.
Please contact the maintainer of this program.
Stopped at /usr/sbin/parse-xf86config line 1565,  chunk 35.
Do you want to create the XFree86 configuration file? (y/n) [y] 

Checking existing /etc/X11/XF86Config for problems (E = error, W = warning,
A = advisory)...
/usr/sbin/parse-xf86config:E:34: No argument for field FontPath.
/usr/sbin/parse-xf86config:D:35: Impossible parser error.
Please contact the maintainer of this program.
Stopped at /usr/sbin/parse-xf86config line 1565,  chunk 35.
dpkg: error processing xserver-svga (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255
Setting up xserver-vga16 (3.3.6-3) ...
/usr/sbin/parse-xf86config:D:35: Impossible parser error.
Please contact the maintainer of this program.
Stopped at /usr/sbin/parse-xf86config line 1565,  chunk 35.
Do you want to create the XFree86 configuration file? (y/n) [y]

Checking existing /etc/X11/XF86Config for problems (E = error, W = warning,
A = advisory)...
/usr/sbin/parse-xf86config:E:34: No argument for field FontPath.
/usr/sbin/parse-xf86config:D:35: Impossible parser error.
Please contact the maintainer of this program.
Stopped at /usr/sbin/parse-xf86config line 1565,  chunk 35.
dpkg: error processing xserver-vga16 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xf86setup:
 xf86setup depends on xserver-vga16 | xserver; however:
  Package xserver-vga16 is not configured yet.
  Package xserver is not installed.
  Package xserver-svga which provides xserver is not configured yet.
  Package xserver-vga16 which provides xserver is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing xf86setup (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 xserver-svga
 xserver-vga16
 xf86setup
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

-- 
David J. Kanter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


ld.so problem

2000-01-30 Thread wujf
After i made a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' from ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main,
many programs said:

/lib/ld.so : invalid dynamic linker option -1073742904
or:
/lib/ld.so : invalid dynamic linker option -1073742768

then exit,how can i do?


Which packages are new in potato

2000-01-30 Thread Adrian Bunk
Hi,

I'm looking for a list of all packages that are new (not only a newer
version) in potato compared to slink. Is something like that available
somewhere?

Thanks,
Adrian


Re: mail filtering techniques

2000-01-30 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Ethan Benson wrote:

> I am wondering what different methods people here are using to filter 
> your mail?   (ie each mailing list to its own mailbox or other such 
> techniques of dealing with several high volume lists)

I fetch mail from my IP's POP3 mailserver using fetchmail. The fetched
mail is then handed to Exim to filter and deliver. Simple and elegant.

Here is my ~/.fetchmailrc 

poll pop.clara.net
protocol pop3
username scgf is gsmh on this system
password xxx

Exim gets involved in filtering mail into folders because I have a
~/.forward file like this:

# Exim filter  <<== do not edit or remove this line!

if error_message then finish endif
logfile $home/eximfilter.log

if $header_to: contains "sah1" 
then deliver scott

elif $h_x-mailing-list matches "^"
then seen save $home/Mail/Debian 

elif $h_subject: contains "CLOS_Linux"
then seen save $home/Mail/Corel

elif $h_subject: contains "dvduk"
then seen save $home/Mail/DVD

elif $h_subject: contains "Debian-uk"
then seen save $home/Mail/Debian

elif $h_subject: contains "Pilot-Unix"
then seen save $home/Mail/Pilot-Unix

elif $h_subject: contains "AWL"
then seen save $home/Mail/Applix

endif


The second rule is neat because it catches all the Debian mailing list
messages.

I used to use procmail to deliver mail, but I prefer the Exim approach.




--
Phillip Deackes
Debian Linux 


Re: where can I find info on how to install a iomega zip disk in debian?

2000-01-30 Thread da Bobstopper
check out the HOWTO documents

ie, install doc-linux-text or, if you have the hard disk space, doc-linux-html
and look in /usr/doc/HOWTO.

there should be a HOWTO in the mini directory called something like 
ZIP-drive-HOWTO or ZIP-HOWTO or ZIP-drive html or something like that.

good luck

from

da Bobstopper

> hello,
> 
> I was wondering on where can I get documentation on how to install a iomega 
> zip disk to debian. I can't seem to find any man pages on that subject.
> 
> thank you.
> __
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> 
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apt-cache question

2000-01-30 Thread Jocke
Hi list,

I have some questions about cleaning up my install a bit.
I tried the command apt-cache unmet and got quite a long
list of suggested and depend packages.

What techniques do you usually use to manage an installation?
(apt, dpkg, ? )
I am running a home machine and I am using unstable.

Any suggestions are welcomed

Best regards
Joakim Svensson


Re: ntp and 0.0.0.0 address

2000-01-30 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Brian May wrote:
> snoopy# ntptrace
> localhost: stratum 16, offset 0.000160, synch distance 0.69316
> 0.0.0.0:*Timeout*

Please send all the relevant configuration files attached when you report
bugs like this one...

ntpd binds to 0.0.0.0 to receive packets from any interface, and this is not
a problem. Now, it should not try to TALK to 0.0.0.0, but you didn't show
ntpd talking to 0.0.0.0, rather *ntptrace* was trying to talk to 0.0.0.0...

A small test shows that the bug is likely to be in ntptrace, and it is
harmless. It should be fixed or documented (if it isn't documented already,
I didn't check), but it isn't a release-critical (important) bug IMO.

The bug can be triggered just after you start ntpd and before it syncs to
the timeservers (in my system this takes about 5-10 minutes, so this is NOT
a small window).

ntptrace tries to connect to the upstream peer (or something like that),
which is reported as 0.0.0.0 (I think), because ntpd doesn't have one
choosen yet.  Try ntpq -p -n and you'll probably see your ntpd is working
just fine (if it is correctly configured, anyway).

I didn't read the RFCs, so I don't know if a supposed 0.0.0.0 answer in the
first sync window is right (bug in ntptrace) or wrong (bug in ntpd).

> Also, ntpdate and ntpd often cannot get a response from the server
> (this seems a bit unpredicatable). Other people have been using the

Is your connection to the servers your localhost server is in sync with
down? Are you sure it is not a DNS problem?

If you often cannot connect to the *remote* server, that network path/server
is not suitable for NTP (at least not as a sole server). Try pinging the
servers when you notice you cannot connect to them, to access if the problem
is the network path.

Anyway, if you reply to the above questions, you should probably take the
BTS out of the reply headers...

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh 


where can I find info on how to install a iomega zip disk in debian?

2000-01-30 Thread john smith

hello,

I was wondering on where can I get documentation on how to install a iomega 
zip disk to debian. I can't seem to find any man pages on that subject.


thank you.
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Re: Compiling KDE programs

2000-01-30 Thread Pavel Epifanov
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Bart Szyszka wrote:

>=I keep having the same problem when compiling KDE-based
>=programs. The ./configure command stops at:
>=--
>=checking for KDE... configure: error:
>=in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will
>=fail.
>=So, check this please and use another prefix! 

First, which KDE version you rea talking about. 

I spent one weel last month with attempts to recompile KDE2.
Really it was not KDE2 but QT 2.1 because you have to compile this 
first. This is real hell !

The minimum source set KDE2+QT2.1 will be more than 50 MB !
You computer for compilation should be at least PII/AMD2+64MB RAM.

And there is no QT2.1 realeased yet so for me no one version gives me
the good deb package for normal KDE2 compilation (the best was QT 1.89
which I was able to compile till deb packages but it contains at least 
one broken header file which did not allow me to compile KDE2-base package )

I would pretty recommend to wait till they release at least QT 2.1.

---
Regards,
Pavel Epifanov.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Broken Debian Installations

2000-01-30 Thread Pavel Epifanov
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, brian moore wrote:

>=The upgrade of libc6 will delete libc6-bin, which will removed
>=netscape-base-4, which will remove the rest of netscape.

Dear Brian,

I understand that POTATO is not released yet. But still this
situation with broken installations was repeated several times for last
months:

1) unknown script had changed a permission of root directory
2) kbd script asked for re-configiration of keyboard with low priority
and "with help" of debconf setup the french keyboard layout
3) netscape has been removed due to dependency mistake

All above are very serious problems which required a lot of knowledge
of system to recover. You normally can't protect well agains such
changes as soon as you need to be root to install them.

Do you know a way to protect systems from such mistakes ?
Full system backup before _every_ installation does not looks 
as best decision for the usual workstation computer.

---
Regards,
Pavel Epifanov.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: system requirements for SCSI

2000-01-30 Thread Pavel Epifanov
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Brian J. Stults wrote:

>=I want to by a SCSI drive and controller for one of my older computers
>=so it can act as an ftp server. 
[..]
>=The computer is a Gateway P166 with 32MB of EDO

I am using computers like or less than 486 + RAM 16 MB for the gateways.
If you recompile kernel (mine is about 450kb) to keep only neccessary 
things your hardware will run just fine. Thanks to Debian.

---
Regards,
Pavel Epifanov.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: mail filtering techniques

2000-01-30 Thread Pavel Epifanov
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Ethan Benson wrote:

>=I am wondering what different methods people here are using to filter 
>=your mail?   (ie each mailing list to its own mailbox or other such 
>=techniques of dealing with several high volume lists)

I am using fetchmail+procmail+pine+postfix.

fetchmail - get mail from POP3 accounts
procmail - filter/place mails to right folders
pine - read/create mail
postfix - local delivery on machine and delivery my mail directly to MX hosts.

My ~/.procmail file looks like:

===cut===
# $Id: .procmailrc,v 1.25 2000/01/28 20:53:46 xxx $

# system
VERBOSE=on
LOGFILE=/var/log/mail/procmail.user
TODAYSDATE=`date +%c`
 
# log
LOG = "..New"

# create copy of all mail before processing
:0 c
/var/log/mail-backup

# spam (no To: field)
# exception: CityCat
:0 H
* !^TO
* !^From: Citycat
mail/spam

# anacron (in From:)
:0 H
* ^From:.*\(Anacron\)
mail/noteroot

# JobServe
:0 H
* ^From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail/jobs

# Debian-Russian
:0 H
* ^X-Loop: debian-russian
* ^Precedence: list
mail/Deb-RU

# The rest of CityCat
:0 H
* ^From: CityCat 
mail/CityCat

# confirmation for mails
# not DAEMON, CityCat, Me
# with Return-Receipt ON
:0 Hhcw
* !^FROM_DAEMON
* !^X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* !^From: Citycat
* !^From:.*\<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* ^Return-Receipt-To.*
* ^Subject: \/.*
| (formail -rt \
   -A "Precedence: junk" \
   -A "X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" \
   -I "Subject: Receipt: $MATCH" ; \
   echo "Dear Sir/Madam, "; \
   echo " "; \
   echo "Your message <$MATCH> "; \
   echo "  has been delivered to <$LOGNAME> at <$TODAYSDATE>."; \
   echo " "; \
   echo "-- "; \
   echo " PROCMAIL confirmation routine at <$HOST> "; \
   )  | $SENDMAIL -oi -t

# MIME uncompressing
:0
* ^Content-Type: *text/plain
{
  :0 fbw
  * ^Content-Transfer-Encoding: *quoted-printable
  | mimencode -u -q

  :0 Afhw
  | formail -I "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit"

  :0 fbw
  * ^Content-Transfer-Encoding: *base64
  | mimencode -u -b
  
  :0 Afhw
  | formail -I "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit"
}
===cut===

---
Regards,
Pavel Epifanov.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Misskey resulted in chown entire directory tree

2000-01-30 Thread Pavel Epifanov
On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, John Foster wrote:

>=that the result is the changing of the owner/group of every file on my
>=complete directory tree to a single username.groupname. Any Suggestions

I have done the same lately on /usr. Very funny.

The possible solutions as I can see are:

= if you have a backup - restore it. Preferred way I afraid. Did not work
for me because daily potato upgrades.

= if you have Tripware installed - there is a check for permissions as well.
Does not work for me as well because reason above (very frequent updates).

= Using existed Tripware database and perl/bash script to recover 
permissions only. Occasionally I have no time to find out the format
of Tripware database and make script. Have someone done it already ?

= The way I am going to use - reinstall Potato as soon as it will 
be released. It should be OK for my test computer. And it also 
remove a lot of garbage from dpkg/apt status file.

Please correct me if I missed one way.
---
Regards,
Pavel Epifanov.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED]



diald does not bring ppp

2000-01-30 Thread Kari Ruohonen
I have slink (no updates) and diald installed from debian CDs. My
diald.options file is almost straight from the examples. I am using 'pon'
in my connect line in diald.options. The problem is that although diald
dials and appears to bring up the link when requested, no traffic is
occurring on the link. I have 'mode ppp' in my options file. I have
dynamic IP assignment and have given 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 as dummies for
the local and remote, respectively. Ifconfig says

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Bcast:127.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3584  Metric:1
  RX packets:20445 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:20445 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  Collisions:0 

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:20:AF:B7:A9:24  
  inet addr:192.168.0.40  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:30298 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:34532 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  Collisions:342 
  Interrupt:10 Base address:0x300 

ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol  
  inet addr:195.197.43.120  P-t-P:195.197.52.149  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING  MTU:1524  Metric:1
  RX packets:9 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:9 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  Collisions:0 
  Memory:36e038-36ec04 

sl0   Link encap:Serial Line IP  
  inet addr:10.0.0.1  P-t-P:10.0.0.2  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:11 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  Collisions:0 

but route -n says:

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
10.0.0.20.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH1  00 sl0
195.197.52.157  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  00 ppp0
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  0   84 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  0   71 lo
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 1  04 sl0

This is a part of ppp.log (I have removed username and password)

Jan 29 14:05:50 komppi diald[3541]: Running connect (pid = 3556).
Jan 29 14:05:51 komppi pppd[3557]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
Jan 29 14:05:51 komppi chat[3558]: abort on (BUSY)
Jan 29 14:05:51 komppi chat[3558]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
Jan 29 14:05:51 komppi chat[3558]: abort on (VOICE)
Jan 29 14:05:51 komppi chat[3558]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
Jan 29 14:05:51 komppi chat[3558]: abort on (NO ANSWER)
Jan 29 14:05:51 komppi chat[3558]: send (ATZ^M)
Jan 29 14:05:51 komppi chat[3558]: expect (OK)
Jan 29 14:05:52 komppi chat[3558]: ATZ^M^M
Jan 29 14:05:52 komppi chat[3558]: OK
Jan 29 14:05:52 komppi chat[3558]:  -- got it 
Jan 29 14:05:52 komppi chat[3558]: send (ATDT41024321^M)
Jan 29 14:05:52 komppi chat[3558]: expect (CONNECT)
Jan 29 14:05:52 komppi chat[3558]: ^M
Jan 29 14:06:14 komppi chat[3558]: ATDT41024321^M^M
Jan 29 14:06:14 komppi chat[3558]: CARRIER 33600^M
Jan 29 14:06:15 komppi chat[3558]: ^M
Jan 29 14:06:15 komppi chat[3558]: PROTOCOL: LAP-M^M
Jan 29 14:06:15 komppi chat[3558]: ^M
Jan 29 14:06:15 komppi chat[3558]: COMPRESSION: V.42BIS^M
Jan 29 14:06:15 komppi chat[3558]: ^M
Jan 29 14:06:15 komppi chat[3558]: CONNECT
Jan 29 14:06:15 komppi chat[3558]:  -- got it 
Jan 29 14:06:15 komppi chat[3558]: send (\d)
Jan 29 14:06:16 komppi pppd[3557]: Serial connection established.
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: Using interface ppp0
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1  
  ]
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 < 00 04 00 00>  < 11 04 05 f4> < 13 10 01 
6a 55 5a 4c 36 73 6b 36 6b 30 36 71 63>]
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 < 00 04 00 00> < 11 
04 05 f4> < 13 10 01 6a 55 5a 4c 36 73 6b 36 6b 30 36 71 63>]
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1  
  ]
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2  
   ]
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2  
   ]
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x159f2937]
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 
user="xx" password="x"]
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x0]
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 ""]
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: Remote message: 
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1  
]
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 ]
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1  ]
Jan 29 14:06:17 komppi pppd[3557]: sent [

Re: DNS setup question

2000-01-30 Thread aphro
if i understand what your asking you should be able to

nslookup
server 
domain.com


where domain.com is the domain you want to lookup.  the DNS will tell you
what it thinks the IP is.  if it is configured right it will show what you
expect. the server command tells nslookup to change it's default DNS to
ask some other server info.

nate


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alec >Right now I've got my Debian-based server acting as a DNS cache. I'm in 
the 
alec >process of moving a domain from one hosting company to another, and I'd 
alec >like to be able to test things as if this domain was pointed at the new 
alec >server instead of the old. I'm not quite ready to update the domain 
records 
alec >with InterNIC though.
alec >
alec >
alec >Is there some way I can make my local DNS server report back to me that 
alec >amimedia.com is 209.68.1.210 instead of the old IP, but without having to 
alec >change things for the rest of the world? I'm not a Bind whiz, so pointers 
alec >are much appreciated.
alec >
alec >I don't want to drop the DNS cache since it speeds things up most of the 
alec >time. Eventually I'd like to add DNS to another LAN I run, so I'd like to 
alec >use this as a chance to start learning how to configure Bind as opposed 
to 
alec >just adding another entry for DNS caching (to point at Pair Network's DNS 
alec >for the new amimedia.com IP).
alec >
alec >
alec >Alec Smith
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How to back-out an apt-get upgrade

2000-01-30 Thread Nick Willson
Can an apt-get upgrade (or similar) be backed-out?  Say the upgrade appears to 
fail, is there a way to rollback to the previous state?  I am running 2.1.

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Re: Debian instructions contradictory?

2000-01-30 Thread paul
On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, da said:
> 
> perfectly understandable rant, but was it really necessary? i didn't really 
> think their question was deserving of something so... harsh? good blow against
> ppl who think debian owes them something and i fully agree but still, perhaps 
> a more appropriate time to bring it up would have been good.
> 

You are right. I apologise to David and to all.

-ptw


T-Shirts

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Re: More ppp problems

2000-01-30 Thread paul
On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, Jonathan said:
> 
> 1. From time to time, my ppp0 interface just stops working. Such as:
> Sith:~# ifconfig ppp0
> ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
>   inet addr:207.158.172.195  P-t-P:206.84.176.80 Mask:255.255.255.255 
>  
and 

> From ppp.log's point of view, it stops recieving lcp replies (though
> it keeps sending requests).  From message's kernel logs, it gets a
> bunch of protocol 17 messages and then just "dies" (i.e. doesnt record
> anything else for whatever reason).
> 
> OK, so thats weird.
> 
> My SECOND problem is that my modem just up and hangs up
> occaisionally. As far as this is concerned, I just hope someone can
> tell me how to start determining if it was due to a change on my side
> or the ISPs side.
> 
> Both of these problems "go away" when I hangup and re-connect.
>

Most likely the ISP, but may be the phone lines between your computer and the 
ISP.  If you know anything about interior phone wiring, then check and/or 
replace the lines between your computer and your demarkation box. (thats the 
box between the phone company's property and yours) If that doesn't help, then 
ask someone at the ISP.  They'll deny any fault, and probably blame your phone 
company, but the problem may go away.


Re: dselect problem with potato

2000-01-30 Thread Gregory T. Norris
On Sun, Jan 30, 2000 at 01:07:02AM -0500, paul wrote:
> Please read this earlier thread (on this list):
>   "BEFORE YOU UPGRADE TO POTATO LOOK AT..."
> 
> I hope this answers your questions.

Thanx for the pointer!


Re: Debian instructions contradictory?

2000-01-30 Thread da Bobstopper
> *START RANT HERE*
> 
> Everyone has an opinion.  As Debian is developed, organised, and debuged by a 
> large group of volunteers.  As you can imagine it is an incredible amount of 
> work for someone to do in their spare time, no matter how skilled they may 
> be. 
>  Sometimes documentation becomes out of date, or must be written in a hurry.  
> Some areas of the website are partially incomplete or slightly out of date.  
> they remain this way until someone involved with Debian (me, you, a 
> developer, 
> or just about anyone else who may care) decides to do something about it.  
> Debian people are notorious for being individualistic and self reliant.  They 
> do work on Debian for no other reason than they feel that it is the right 
> thing to do.  The help you are recieving on this list is given to you for 
> free, and voluntarily by people who are under no obligation to give you the 
> time of day (unless they maintain a time server at work).  ALMOST NO ONE IS 
> GETTING PAID AND NO ONE IS PAID BY DEBIAN FOR ANYTHING.  We like to hear 
> from, 
> and to help, other users.
> 
> *STOP RANT*
> 

perfectly understandable rant, but was it really necessary? i didn't really 
think their question was deserving of something so... harsh? good blow against
ppl who think debian owes them something and i fully agree but still, perhaps 
a more appropriate time to bring it up would have been good.



Re: dselect problem with potato

2000-01-30 Thread paul
Please read this earlier thread (on this list):
"BEFORE YOU UPGRADE TO POTATO LOOK AT..."

I hope this answers your questions.

-ptw-


Re: How to use ntp/ntpdate to fix my clock

2000-01-30 Thread John Foster
Ed Cogburn wrote:
> 
> Henrique M Holschuh wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Patrick Dahiroc wrote:
> > >already on Feb 15, 2000. digging through the package database i came across
> > >ntp and ntpdate and installed both (i have an always on connection to the
> >
> > ntpdate is used to do a "one time only" update to your clock. ntp is used to
> > discipline your clock and will in fact keep the RTC in a short leash
> > updating it every 11 minutes.
> 
> I don't believe ntp is what Patrick needs.  "ntp" is the daemon, i.e.
> the server.  "ntpdate" is the "client software".  I think what Patrick
> wants is ntpdate and info on available public servers to access, not
> to setup his own ntp server for a sub-net of others.
> The info you want Patrick is in ntp-doc, at least.  ntp-doc is docs
> in HTML form.  They include a link to a list on the net of public
> primary and secondary servers (I'm pretty sure this list can be found
> elsewhere in ntpdate or ntp-doc packages).  For most of us, we should
> access a secondary server, there is no reason for an "end-user" like
> us to be using primary servers.  I seem to remember also that some
> primary servers require "permission to access" first.  Get to that
> list, write down 3-4 of the secondary servers that are geographically
> close, and plug that info into ntpdate's config file.
==
I think this is the server site lists that you are seeking:

http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/servers.htm

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Re: Debian instructions contradictory?

2000-01-30 Thread paul
> Below is a quote copied directly from the Debian web page FAQ for 
> downloading CD images located at http://cdimage.debian.org/faq.html:
> 
> >-?- But what CDs do I need? 
> >-!- If you want to install Debian, you should get only the "Binary-1" 
> >CD for your platform (e.g. "i386" for IBM-compatible PCs). The other 
> >"Binary-X" CDs (X>=2) contain very specialistic software that is used only 
> >by very few people -- these are not needed at all for fresh installs. 
> >

You do not NEED the cd to install Debian.  The first cd has all of the 
packages you need in order to get a system running.  The "specialistic" (I'm 
not sure why this word is used.) software mentioned is not actually needed to 
do the install.  It is very likely that most people only install one or two 
packages from the second disk.  The cd images are very large, so only the MAIN 
distribution is included on any cd set.  Also this is why it is reccomended 
that you only download the first cd.  You can install any other packages you 
need using apt-get or using apt with deselect.  Using the apt access method, 
finish your install with dselect.  If this is your first time installing 
Linux, it is likely that you are selecting many packages that you will never 
use.  Don't worry about this, as you will be better at installing next time 
around.

> 
> AND, if the web page is correct, that you only need the one CD, then why 
> do the same Debian people tell you that installing from a single CD is 
> passe', and you should install from the multiple set.
> 

*START RANT HERE*

Everyone has an opinion.  As Debian is developed, organised, and debuged by a 
large group of volunteers.  As you can imagine it is an incredible amount of 
work for someone to do in their spare time, no matter how skilled they may be. 
 Sometimes documentation becomes out of date, or must be written in a hurry.  
Some areas of the website are partially incomplete or slightly out of date.  
they remain this way until someone involved with Debian (me, you, a developer, 
or just about anyone else who may care) decides to do something about it.  
Debian people are notorious for being individualistic and self reliant.  They 
do work on Debian for no other reason than they feel that it is the right 
thing to do.  The help you are recieving on this list is given to you for 
free, and voluntarily by people who are under no obligation to give you the 
time of day (unless they maintain a time server at work).  ALMOST NO ONE IS 
GETTING PAID AND NO ONE IS PAID BY DEBIAN FOR ANYTHING.  We like to hear from, 
and to help, other users.

*STOP RANT*

> This just makes no sense at all, and I would be very grateful to anyone 
> who can explain it.
> 

I hope I just did.

-ptw-


Re: keyboard repeat rate

2000-01-30 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Attila Csosz wrote:

> How could I set the keyboard repeat rate and the speed? 
> Because when I start X and end my X session I observe the following:
> when I press some key I must wait a while to get any character on the screen.
> Then the keyboard echos the characters normally onto the screen.
> Without X the keyboard works normally( I have vindozer keyboard ).

kbdrate

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Languages & Mutt or Console

2000-01-30 Thread Art Lemasters
 Languages other than English mail to and show in mutt
here just fine, but fonts for such languages are garbled
when forwarded by mutt.  ...any of you know which packages
I should download to forward other language fonts from mutt
in a VC (virtual console)?

Art


Re: permissions / replacing packages

2000-01-30 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote:

> I was moving my files back and forth to and from CD-RWs, and I just
> realised that my CDs were made with rational rockridge (sets everything to
> owned by root, read-only, and removes suid bits, and sets world-readable
> to everything), instead of standard rockridge extensions.  Whoops! 



> Is there any way (on a Debian system), that I can get apt to re-download
> and install the packages I have currently installed over top of what's
> already here, to fix things?

I had to do something very similar just last night.  The superblock on my
/usr partition got screwed up, and I couldn't recover it.  The rest of the
system was fine.  Of course, I had to deal with some other ugliness that
you're going to be spared (e.g. dpkg is in /usr; I had to find a
replacement!).

Try something like this:
# dpkg --get-selections > /root/packages
# cat /dev/null > /var/lib/dpkg/status
# dpkg --set-selections /root/packages

Then you should be able to run dselect, select [I]nstall from the menu,
and go, assuming your sources are up to date and pointing to the right
mirrors.  Dpkg will ask you before overwriting any of your config files,
but just to be sure I kept a backup of /var and /etc.  But that probably
won't be an issue for you, since you've got everything on CD.

You'll still have to go through /var and /etc and check those perms,
because most of the contents of those directories will not be
replaced.  There may very well be a better solution to your problem.  This
is what comes to mind first for me.

Good luck.
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permissions / replacing packages

2000-01-30 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
I was moving my files back and forth to and from CD-RWs, and I just
realised that my CDs were made with rational rockridge (sets everything to
owned by root, read-only, and removes suid bits, and sets world-readable
to everything), instead of standard rockridge extensions.  Whoops! 

Specifically, /usr/X11R6, /usr/local, /usr/lib, and /home were messed up. 
I've pretty much got /usr/local under control, but what should I do with
the other three?  I've already run suidregister, and fixed my GPG/PGP 
permissions.

Is there any way (on a Debian system), that I can get apt to re-download
and install the packages I have currently installed over top of what's
already here, to fix things?


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2000-01-30 Thread rmarlow
hello.
since i turned off bsd compression (in my last email) i've been getting really
slow connections through my gateway machine. i don't think this is because of
the compression though. my gateway is a 486 33MHz with 16M of RAM. i'm thinking
it's old hardware that's slowing down the connection. would i be right?

does anyone know of any problems involved with connecting from linux to NT with
bsd compression turned on or off? i had a lot of troubles with it turned on
(nobody's replied to my last email concerning this i believe).

thanks

from

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Re: kernel panic on hda

2000-01-30 Thread Hartmut Figge
Paul McDermott wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve, it looks like you might have misconfigured the kernel. did you
> include ext2 filesystem in your configured kernel.

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Re: More ppp problems

2000-01-30 Thread Christopher S. Swingley
> My SECOND problem is that my modem just up and hangs up
> occaisionally. As far as this is concerned, I just hope someone can
> tell me how to start determining if it was due to a change on my side
> or the ISPs side.

I don't have any ideas on your first problem, but I do have a bit of
experience with the second.  The hang-ups could be something as simple
as a timeout on the ISP side because you haven't been doing anything
for awhile.  But I'm sure you've thought of this.  I think you could
use tcpdump to see if the hangup coincides with a long interruption
in packets -- if so it might be an automatic hangup on the ISP's
part (or a low value for idle in your ~/.ppprc or /etc/ppp/options).

I had a similar problem a few months ago where my modem would hang up
after exactly 32 minutes.  Turned out it was our cordless phone.  At
the suggestion of the phone company, we unplugged it and from then on
everything has worked just fine (except for the crappy line quality,
of course).  This probably isn't what's going on either, but before
considering the computer-side issues, it's worth a look into what other 
devices are sharing your modem line and what they might be doing.

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More ppp problems

2000-01-30 Thread Jonathan Lupa
Any help on pointing me in the right direction would be greatly
appreciated.  I am experiencing 2 frustrating problems:

For reference: pppd 2.3.10, linux 2.2.12. All ppp and ipmasq modules
are compiled as modules and I verified that they were loaded durring
these "occurances". I also talked to my ISP to verify that they don't
have policies on connect times, or daily down times.

This is going to wrap a little... :/

1. From time to time, my ppp0 interface just stops working. Such as:
Sith:~# ifconfig ppp0
ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
  inet addr:207.158.172.195  P-t-P:206.84.176.80 Mask:255.255.255.255   
   
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:29157 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:28257 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:10
Sith:~# ping 206.84.176.80
PING 206.84.176.80 (206.84.176.80): 56 data bytes

--- 206.84.176.80 ping statistics ---
14 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
Sith:~# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface  
 
206.84.176.80   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  0   0 ppp0 
   
192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  0   0 eth1 
   
0.0.0.0 206.84.176.80   0.0.0.0 UG0  0   0 ppp0

From ppp.log's point of view, it stops recieving lcp replies (though
it keeps sending requests).  From message's kernel logs, it gets a
bunch of protocol 17 messages and then just "dies" (i.e. doesnt record
anything else for whatever reason).

OK, so thats weird.

My SECOND problem is that my modem just up and hangs up
occaisionally. As far as this is concerned, I just hope someone can
tell me how to start determining if it was due to a change on my side
or the ISPs side.

Both of these problems "go away" when I hangup and re-connect.

Thanks!!!

Jonathan

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Re: ext2 fs issues when copying between disks

2000-01-30 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Colin Watson wrote:

> >I suspect this problem has something to do with 'sparse files'.
> 
> Right idea, though not the usual terminology so documentation searches
> might have failed you (that reminded me of sparse superblocks or perhaps
> files containing "holes", both of which are entirely different; that's
> probably just me free-associating again, though). 


No, you were right.  I was referring to files with "holes", though after
reading your reply and giving it some further thought, it's pretty obvious
that none of the operations I performed would have created sparse files.

> The block size on your
> new /usr is larger than that on your old /usr, that's all. Use
> '/sbin/tune2fs -l /dev/sda10' and '/sbin/tune2fs -l /dev/sda11' to see
> the various parameters of the two filesystems. (Make sure to unmount the
> filesystem or remount it read-only before changing any filesystem
> parameters with tune2fs, though.)

Exactly right.  Thanks a whole lot for such a quick reply!

Ooh, this is bringing back fond memories of my operating systems classes
in school.  One of them focused almost entirely on filesystems, so this
blocksize issue and the space/speed issue that comes with different size
blocks are somewhat familiar to me.  Interesting...

noah

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Re: ext2 fs issues when copying between disks

2000-01-30 Thread Colin Watson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Noah L. Meyerhans) wrote:
>I just moved /usr/ to a new partition.  Everything went smoothly, and the
>new /usr is mounted.  However, disk usage is dramatically higher on the
>new /usr than on the old one.  I have confirmed (using 'find . -xtype f
>- -exec cmp {} /mnt/tmp/{} \;') that the directory structures are identical
>between the two filesystems.  However, the files on the new filesystem are
>bigger.  Here's what I mean:

[...]

>I suspect this problem has something to do with 'sparse files'.

Right idea, though not the usual terminology so documentation searches
might have failed you (that reminded me of sparse superblocks or perhaps
files containing "holes", both of which are entirely different; that's
probably just me free-associating again, though). The block size on your
new /usr is larger than that on your old /usr, that's all. Use
'/sbin/tune2fs -l /dev/sda10' and '/sbin/tune2fs -l /dev/sda11' to see
the various parameters of the two filesystems. (Make sure to unmount the
filesystem or remount it read-only before changing any filesystem
parameters with tune2fs, though.)

>What can I do to fix it?

You'll need to recreate it (using mke2fs) with more precise options. The
man page has plenty of details. I'm afraid it's not possible, as far as
I know, to change parameters like the block size of an already-existing
filesystem, but you still seem to have the old one around anyway so it
shouldn't be too much of a problem.

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ext2 fs issues when copying between disks

2000-01-30 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
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I just moved /usr/ to a new partition.  Everything went smoothly, and the
new /usr is mounted.  However, disk usage is dramatically higher on the
new /usr than on the old one.  I have confirmed (using 'find . -xtype f
- -exec cmp {} /mnt/tmp/{} \;') that the directory structures are identical
between the two filesystems.  However, the files on the new filesystem are
bigger.  Here's what I mean:

ant:~$ df /usr /mnt/tmp 
Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda10 1512832688712747272  48% /usr
/dev/sda11 2734835595615   1997808  23% /mnt/tmp

Notice that the 'Used' column is greater on /usr than on /mnt/tmp (old
usr).  Doing something like du -sk /usr/sbin and du -sk /mnt/tmp/sbin
shows that the contents of the sbin subdirectory are slightly larger on
the new /usr...that's the case with all the subdirectories.

I suspect this problem has something to do with 'sparse files'.  The
command I used to copy the filesystem was:

cd /usr && tar cpf - . --exclude local --exclude lost+found | (cd
/mnt/tmp/ && tar xpf -)

However, I saw the exact same behavior in an earlier attempt using 
'cp -ax'

Has anybody got any idea why this new filesystem is "bigger" than the
orginal?  What can I do to fix it?

TIA!
noah

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Re: kernel panic on hda

2000-01-30 Thread Paul McDermott
Hi Steve, it looks like you might have misconfigured the kernel. did you
include ext2 filesystem in your configured kernel.
Paul


On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, steve doerr wrote:

> I just compiled and installed the 2.2 kernel with the debian kernel
> package and I got the following error on booting:
> 
> Partition check
> hda: driver not present
> VFS: Cannot open root device 03:01
> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:01
> 
> Did I do something wrong with the kernel's IDE configuration (I have a
> IDE 2.5 GB Quantum Bigfoot)?  I reran LILO after installing the kernel
> deb.  It won't boot from the kernel floppy I created either so I'm
> inclined to think the kernel is misconfigured for IDE.
> 
> Any help greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Steve
> 
> 
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Re: Reiser filesystem

2000-01-30 Thread Chanop Silpa-Anan
Some what recently, Arne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote about Reiser filesystem

>:) Hello,
>:) Does anyone already install a Debian-linux on a Reiser-File-system?
>:) 
>:) http://devlinux.com/projects/reiserfs/
>:) 
>:) I am perhaps going to change from SuSE to Debian, but SuSE now gives the
>:) possibility to install on Reiserfs.
>:) The reason for changing is the poor network-features of SuSE.
>:) 
I did this on one new machine. 

Install only a base system on / partition only, then copy my own compile
kernel.deb and reiser fs from another machinem then mkreiserfs on target
partition and install the rest.


Chanop

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Re: sources.list

2000-01-30 Thread Kent West
"Ariel S. Betan" wrote:
> 
> I'm new to debian.
> Can someone send a /etc/apt/sources.list file for potato?
> 
> TIA

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free


Re: RPM vs. Debian package format

2000-01-30 Thread Kent West
dkphoto wrote:
> 
> >You can find out how robust (and picky) debs are by packaging
> >something.  A couple weeks and a couple hundred pages of
> >developer docs later, you'll appreciate what goes into a deb.
> >The alien command will convert between rpms and debs and
> >you can compare the results.
> 
> Would someone mind explaining to me just what a "deb" is?
> 
> TIA
> 
> David Kachel

A "deb" is a Debian package file (filename ends in ".deb"). It contains
the program(s) you're installing, along with instructions to dpkg about
how to install it and where to install it and how to configure it and
what questions to ask of the sys admin, etc.

An "RPM" is a Redhat package file (filename ends in ".rpm"). It does
more-or-less the same for Redhat that a deb does for Debian, but not as
cleanly/well-implemented.


pppd problems (CCP ResetReq)

2000-01-30 Thread Christopher S. Swingley
I recently set up a dial-in ppp server at work.  It's running potato
and has two ISA 3Com modems plugged into it.  Whenever I dial in from
home I see the following in the logs on my home machine (the one
calling):

Jan 29 16:08:34 raven pppd[2118]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 
magic=0xd71da192]
Jan 29 16:08:35 raven pppd[2118]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 
magic=0x26ed91ff]
Jan 29 16:08:45 raven pppd[2118]: rcvd [CCP ResetReq id=0x4]
Jan 29 16:08:45 raven pppd[2118]: sent [CCP ResetAck id=0x4]
Jan 29 16:08:55 raven pppd[2118]: rcvd [CCP ResetReq id=0x5]
Jan 29 16:08:55 raven pppd[2118]: sent [CCP ResetAck id=0x5]
Jan 29 16:08:55 raven pppd[2118]: rcvd [Compressed data] 
00 5e 82 34 c4 0b c1 0d ...
Jan 29 16:08:55 raven pppd[2118]: sent [CCP ResetReq id=0x2]
Jan 29 16:08:56 raven pppd[2118]: rcvd [CCP ResetAck id=0x2]
Jan 29 16:09:03 raven pppd[2118]: rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=0x2 
magic=0x26ed91ff]
Jan 29 16:09:03 raven pppd[2118]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=0x2 
magic=0xd71da192]

The LCP EchoReq lines make sense, but periodically I get those CCP
ResetReq / CCP ResetAck messages.  These coincide with a loss of
TCP/IP packets (during an apt-get, the download stops, it sits there 
for thirty seconds, and then starts downloading again).

I know it's my home machine in because it connectes to a different dial 
in server just fine.  Anybody know what I've done wrong?

Chris
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RE: DNS setup question

2000-01-30 Thread Glen S Mehn
If you set up your DNS server correctly with the IPs that you want, and tell
it that it's the SOA record for animedia.com, then it'll point itself and
any 'puters that point to it as primary DNS to the IP address, regardless of
the root servers. It's a good way to test your DNS setup.

You can also use interactive nslookup. If you just type nslookup without any
arguments, you'll get a prompt:

>

then you can say nameserver 

and it'll lookup stuff through that nameserver. It's also a good way to
debug stuff.

Adding the nameserver is as simple as adding a line to your
/etc/bind/named.conf and setting up the zone file for it. The BIND-HOWTO has
answers on this one.

Regards,

Glen


-Original Message-
From: Alec Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 2:12 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: DNS setup question


Right now I've got my Debian-based server acting as a DNS cache. I'm in the
process of moving a domain from one hosting company to another, and I'd
like to be able to test things as if this domain was pointed at the new
server instead of the old. I'm not quite ready to update the domain records
with InterNIC though.


Is there some way I can make my local DNS server report back to me that
amimedia.com is 209.68.1.210 instead of the old IP, but without having to
change things for the rest of the world? I'm not a Bind whiz, so pointers
are much appreciated.

I don't want to drop the DNS cache since it speeds things up most of the
time. Eventually I'd like to add DNS to another LAN I run, so I'd like to
use this as a chance to start learning how to configure Bind as opposed to
just adding another entry for DNS caching (to point at Pair Network's DNS
for the new amimedia.com IP).


Alec Smith


what exactly is SMP?

2000-01-30 Thread zdrysdal


kernel panic on hda

2000-01-30 Thread steve doerr
I just compiled and installed the 2.2 kernel with the debian kernel
package and I got the following error on booting:

Partition check
hda: driver not present
VFS: Cannot open root device 03:01
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:01

Did I do something wrong with the kernel's IDE configuration (I have a
IDE 2.5 GB Quantum Bigfoot)?  I reran LILO after installing the kernel
deb.  It won't boot from the kernel floppy I created either so I'm
inclined to think the kernel is misconfigured for IDE.

Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Steve


sources.list

2000-01-30 Thread Ariel S. Betan
I'm new to debian.
Can someone send a /etc/apt/sources.list file for potato?

TIA


[OT] Knuth saying about a mice with an OS is like an elephant?

2000-01-30 Thread Shaul Karl
Can some one give me the exact saying of Knuth about a mice with an OS is like 
an elephant? Where and when does it published for the first time?
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