Re: graphical login

[Carl Mummert]

"Bart Szyszka" writes:
>> (comment out the final line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers)
>
>A couple people have suggested that, but isn't it just easier to
>do a dpkg --purge xdm?

You may want to connect from another X machine to your local machine,
and login via XDMCP ; in this case, all that is required is to tell
xdm not to start an xserver on your machine, but to continue to
service requests from other machines.  Thus /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers.

Carl

video bios address

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi

How do I find out my video bios address and size so I can map it into
dosemu to allow some games to run which need the extended features of the
bios?


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Re: graphical login

[Colin Watson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Szyszka) wrote:
>> The graphical login in run by xdm.  Either remove /etc/rc2.d/xdm,
>> or edit the xdm conf to turn off xdm for the local host 
>> (comment out the final line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers)
>
>A couple people have suggested that, but isn't it just easier to
>do a dpkg --purge xdm?

Not always. Sometimes you may want to leave it installed and use it
some time in the future, or perhaps leave it installed so that it
doesn't get pulled in again by dependencies later. Purging it is of
course an option ...

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Re: Sound Troubles

[David Blackman]

On Sat, Feb 12, 2000 at 04:15:06PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Cameron Matheson hat gesagt: // Cameron Matheson wrote:
> 
> > I mailed a little while ago, but I did not explain myself well enough.  I
> > have sound with CD and in Enlightenment, so I know it works.  None of the
> > games that Debian came with have sound.  Why not?
> 
> What games are you trying to play? Is the enlightenment sound daemon running
> (ps aux | grep esd)? If so, try killing it (killall esd) and check if the
> games have sound now.
> 
> bye

Actually, most of the games that come with Debian don't have sound,
it's as simple as that, what games specifically?

--dave

Re: Syslog and kern.log after upgrade

[dan]

On Sat, Feb 12, 2000 at 05:12:54PM +, Randy Edwards generated a stream of 
1s and 0s:
> > Ever since I upgraded to potato my syslog and kern.log has grown to huge
> > sizes:
> > Feb  9 04:36:34 rademaker kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17
> > 130.161.65.12:138 130.161.65.127:138 L=242 S=0x00 I=7424 F=0x T=128
> > (#6)
> 
>I've gotten a lot of similar errors with one of the recent updates (I've
> been running potato for many, many months with out this).  I'd love to find
> some docs on what all of the various fields in that log means.

You need to read ipchains documentation. Do 'ipchains -L' to see what
ipmasq did.

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Re: Ned pointers in using KDE with Potato/Enlightenment

[David J. Kanter]

On Sat, Feb 12, 2000 at 08:49:22AM -0600, John Foster wrote:
> I have Debian Potato using Enlightenment set up on my server. I want to
> try out the KDE applications with the Enlightenment connections. I would
> appreciate tips suggestions etc. from anyone using these presently.
> Thanks!
---end quoted text---

What exactly are you asking? If you want KDE debs, put this in your
/etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato kde contrib rkrusty

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Re: XFonts?

[sgaerner]

I had the same strange look when I used an ATI Rage 128 based graphicsadapter. 
When I
switched the hardware acceleration off, the fonts became "normal". In the file
/etc/X11/XF86Config there could be an entry like
# "accel" off

I uncommented this line an X11 works normal.

bye

Sven

"Robert L. Harris" wrote:

> I finally got XF86 from the frozen Debian (3.3.6 I believe) installed
> and actually working right.
>
> When I start it up the graphics all look right, but all the text is
> garbase.  My prompt looks like  "|||\|  ^" and such.  Definitely
> nothing that looks like text.  Even if I try to bring up the "menu"
> >from holding down ctrl-mouse-button in an Xterm.
>
> I've tried with and without the xfs running.
>
> Robert
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Re: graphical login

[webmaster]

> The graphical login in run by xdm.  Either remove /etc/rc2.d/xdm,
> or edit the xdm conf to turn off xdm for the local host
> (comment out the final line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers)
Thank you Carl, it works fine :)

Uwe

Re: graphical login

[Bart Szyszka]

> The graphical login in run by xdm.  Either remove /etc/rc2.d/xdm,
> or edit the xdm conf to turn off xdm for the local host 
> (comment out the final line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers)

A couple people have suggested that, but isn't it just easier to
do a dpkg --purge xdm?

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xserver-svga and PEX5 possible?

[John Dalbec]

Cirrus CLGD5446
X 3.3.6-3
I installed xext using apt-get.
I restarted the X server (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace).
How do I get the PEX5 extension to load?  Can I?
TIA,
John

Re: graphical login

[Carl Mummert]

The graphical login in run by xdm.  Either remove /etc/rc2.d/xdm,
or edit the xdm conf to turn off xdm for the local host 
(comment out the final line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers)

--Carl

source code compiling

[Russ Cook]

I'm trying to compile the source for glibc 2.1.2-13.
I get an error message that I need kernel headers from
Linux 2.0.10 or later.  I'm using kernel 2.2.14, and
also have kernel-headers-2.0.38 installed.
Is there something special I have to do to get this
package to compile?  I downloaded the source, ran
dpkg-source -x, and dpkg-buildpackage.

Any suggestion appreciated.  This all came about
because distributed-net daemon can't find the
key server without libnss1-compat (I've been told).
I can't compile the source, and the package won't 
install because I have glibc-2.2.13 installed, and
the package wants 2.2.12.

Thanks again for any help.

Regards,
Russ

graphical login

[webmaster]

Hi there,

after installing X-Windows I've got a graphical login on my server. How
do I change back to normal text mode?

Could anyone please help?
Thanks,

Uwe

D-Link NIC problem

[Russ Cook]

I have upgraded from my Linksys PCI lan card to a D-Link
DFE-530TX PCI card.  I recompiled my 2.2.14 kernel using
the via-rhine driver.  My eth0 interface shows up when
I execute ifconfig as follows:
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 83:50:BA:B3:3D:C4  
  inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::8350:bab3:3dc4/10 Scope:Link
  inet6 addr: fe80::8150:baff:feb3:3dc4/10 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:138 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:459 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
  Interrupt:15 Base address:0xfc80 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
  RX packets:348 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:348 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 

ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol  
  inet addr:38.31.65.206  P-t-P:38.1.1.1  Mask:255.255.255.255
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:186 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:180 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:10 

sl0   Link encap:Serial Line IP  
  inet addr:192.168.1.11  P-t-P:192.168.1.12  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:39 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:10 

However, when I try to ping any of the hosts on my network, all
packets are lost.  I have changed nothing except the driver when
changing the NICs.  All configuration files are the same as far
as I know.

When booting, part of the screen data shows the following:
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 44k freed
Adding Swap: 128516k swap-space (priority -1)
diald uses obsolete (PF_INET,SOCK_PACKET)
lp0: using parport0 (polling).
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
registered device ppp0
PPP BSD Compression module registered
PPP Deflate Compression module registered

I don't recall if I had the IPv6 message before with the old
NIC.

Can anyone offer any pointers?  Thanks much for any help.

Regards,
Russ

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Re: First Kernel Recompile

[Oliver Elphick]

Lane Lester wrote:
  >I did a fair amount of reading and asking first, but now I've tried
  >my first kernel recompile. make xconfig wouldn't work, and it seemed
  >to be because it couldn't find the tk stuff. make config worked OK,
  >but make dep wouldn't, and it seemed to be because it couldn't find
  >the standard C headers, such as stdio.h.

You probably have to install some extra packages: tcl8.0, tk8.0
and libc6-dev, for a start.

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  with glory and honour."Psalms 8:3-5 

Re: where can I get cu?

[Oliver Elphick]

Pollywog wrote:
  >I need to get a comm program called cu.  ckermit is too difficult to use for
  >this.  I could not find cu on freshmeat
  >
 
cu is part of uucp

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  little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him 
  with glory and honour."Psalms 8:3-5 

Re: Mail front end

[webmaster]

> > As we are at the topic:
> > where can I find "pine" on Debian V2.1.9 slink?
> 
> Binaries are available from:
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/
> 
> Pine has a "weird" kind of license, which, IIRC,
> prohibits the distribution of pre-compiled binaries
> (such as .rpm's or .deb's), but you can download a
> binary for your platform from the address above.
Thank you. I've downloaded it there. The reason for me to use it is
because a week ago I changed our RAID-Server from SuSE to Debian and I
don't know what else to use as non graphical mail client.

Uwe

Re: Mail front end

[Jeremy Gaddis]

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > Can anyone tell me if there is a supported and
> > fairly bug-free front end for mail?

> As we are at the topic:
> where can I find "pine" on Debian V2.1.9 slink?

Binaries are available from:
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/

Pine has a "weird" kind of license, which, IIRC,
prohibits the distribution of pre-compiled binaries
(such as .rpm's or .deb's), but you can download a
binary for your platform from the address above.

--
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Re: where can I get cu?

[Ben Collins]

On Sat, Feb 12, 2000 at 09:05:59PM -, Pollywog wrote:
> I need to get a comm program called cu.  ckermit is too difficult to use for
> this.  I could not find cu on freshmeat

You could try minicom. It's very simple.

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where can I get cu?

[Pollywog]

I need to get a comm program called cu.  ckermit is too difficult to use for
this.  I could not find cu on freshmeat

tnx

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Ned pointers in using KDE with Potato/Enlightenment

[John Foster]

I have Debian Potato using Enlightenment set up on my server. I want to
try out the KDE applications with the Enlightenment connections. I would
appreciate tips suggestions etc. from anyone using these presently.
Thanks!
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Re: package compilation madness

[Chris Waters]

Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 [with an unattributed quote from Chris:)]
> > That's no excuse for off-topic posts!  I mean, by that logic,
> > *everyone* should move all their questions to deb-laptops.  

> Everyone who has a laptop.

No -- general questions about Debian that aren't specific to laptops
should go in more general forums.  Otherwise, -laptop will soon become
just as difficult to follow as -user.

> Why should I think I'm special?  I'm not the only one with a laptop.  I
> speak for anyone who does have one, and wants keep their laptop running
> optimally. 

Anyone using Debian might have been interested in the topic.  But
since you only posted to -laptop, that means that only people using
laptops will benefit from the information.  Which is rather unfair,
IMO.

If you have problems with the volume of mail on -user (and I confess,
I do too), you can simply use either a newsreader or web browser to
skim for the answers to questions you ask there.

> > Note: since this is a flame, I posted it off list.  But I'm not really
> > mad, so, if you ask me again off-list, I might actually answer your
> > question.  :)

> OK, I'm listening...

Actually, someone else already answered: yes, the version number that
dpkg uses is extracted from the debian/changelog file.  Renaming the
deb won't have any effect.  So, if you want to override a package, you
need to edit this file, and create a new entry with a version number
that will sort later than any future revisions.  E.g. if the official
Debian package is 2.3-6, and you want your privately built package to
take precedence, you'd have to make a changelog entry that sets the
version number to, e.g. "my.2.3-7".

Note: I sent this to the -user list, in case others have been
struggling with the same question.  (Note to anyone reading it there
-- I'm not on -user, so followups may need to be cc'd to me.)

cheers,
Chris
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RE: rdate fails Y2K?

[Johann Spies]

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Larry Fletcher wrote:

> I searched through all of the old messages on this subject and
> couldn't find a fix for the problem, except using another time
> server.
> 
> My problem is I'm behind a firewall and can only use a local
> time server that won't work with rdate.  Has rdate been fixed
> yet?  If so, is there somewhere can I get a copy that will work
> with Slink?

If I remember correctly the problem wat not with rdate but with one
particular server and that that problem had been corrected.

Johann
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  is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of 
  man, that thou visitest him? For thou hast made him a 
  little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him 
  with glory and honor."Psalms 8:3-5 

Re: NO MOUSE

[Steve Anderson]

I have a Compaq wheel mouse, and here is the mouse section
from my XF86Config:

Section "Pointer"
  Protocol  "IMPS/2"
  Device"/dev/psaux"
  SampleRate60
  BaudRate  1200
  Buttons   5
  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection
Section "Monitor"

The wheel even works.
Steve

First Kernel Recompile

[Lane Lester]

I did a fair amount of reading and asking first, but now I've tried
my first kernel recompile. make xconfig wouldn't work, and it seemed
to be because it couldn't find the tk stuff. make config worked OK,
but make dep wouldn't, and it seemed to be because it couldn't find
the standard C headers, such as stdio.h.
-- 
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Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA

Getting where I want to be with Corel Linux

Re: cp of big file causes high loadavg

[dan]

On Sat, Feb 12, 2000 at 04:01:04PM +0100, Remco van 't Veer generated a stream 
of 1s and 0s:

As, I said, IDE sucks. 'nuff said.

> When moving or copying a big file (>100Mb) across filesystems, the
> loadavg climbs from below 1 to 5, X screen refresh gets choppy and
> xmms starts to stutter.
> 
> Anybody know any tweaks to avoid this problem?  I played around with
> hdparm but the problem remains.  Sysctl maybe?
> 
> I am using a P3 with 256Mb RAM and 3 IDE harddisks running potato.
> 
> TIA,
> Remco
> 
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Re: NO MOUSE

[davidturetsky]

I had the same problem. Consider whether all of 
your devices are supported... I had a frozen kb and mouse... both of these 
devices on my system are Microsoft's "intelligent" versions
 
I'm trying the route of using XFree86 as my x 
platform. Nothing helpful to report so far
 
David

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  jc 
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
  Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 10:54 
  AM
  Subject: NO MOUSE
  
     I have recently purchased the book 
  Learning Debian GNU/linux from O'reilly pub.I installed the system without any 
  problems and got it up and running flawlessly but when I tried to install X my 
  mouse would not respond.I've tried everything I could but nothing seems to 
  work.Before installing Debian I was using Mandrake Linux and my mouse worked 
  fine.What do I need to do to get my mouse working.My system is a Compaq 5304 
  with what I believe to be a 2-button ps/2 mouse by logitech.Any info at all 
  would be extremely helpful.
   
  
    thank 
  you and looking forward to the Hurd
   
   
   
  

app-defaults or something else?

[paul]

Today I upgraded my XFree86 to version 3.3.6 from Vincent's XFree86-update 
directory, and now I have a minor but irritating problem.  Some applications 
are now using large fonts in their controls (ugly) that previously were not.  
Most notably netscape, abiword, gimp, and lyx.  Other apps have not changed, 
and I would like top return to my previous defaults.  How do I do this?  What 
file(s) do I need to edit or app do I need to run?  What docs do I need to 
read in order to understand this?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

-ptw

Re: cp of big file causes high loadavg

[Remco van 't Veer]

Maybe something is wrong with my bios settings.  Anybody any ideas?


On Sat, Feb 12, 2000 at 10:22, Eric Hanchrow wrote:

> > "Remco" == Remco van 't Veer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Remco> When moving or copying a big file (>100Mb) across
> Remco> filesystems, the loadavg climbs from below 1 to 5, X screen
> Remco> refresh gets choppy and xmms starts to stutter.
> 
> I just tried it, but didn't see anything weird happen -- my load
> average never got above 1.5
> 
> Remco> I am using a P3 with 256Mb RAM and 3 IDE harddisks running
> Remco> potato.
> 
> I was using a PII with 192 Mb RAM and two IDE disks, although I moved
> the file from one partition on one disk to another partition on the
> same disk.  I'm running Linux potato 2.2.14. 


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networked lxdoom is black

[Mark Blunier]

When I try to run lxdoom as multiplayer I start
lxdoom-game-server and lxdoom clients, but when doom
starts up, the window that lxdoom runs is blank (on
all machines), and it does not seem to respond to
the keyboard.  I get the same thing running it under
wmaker or twm.  Any ideas on whats wrong?

Mark

NO MOUSE

[jc]

   I have recently purchased the book 
Learning Debian GNU/linux from O'reilly pub.I installed the system without any 
problems and got it up and running flawlessly but when I tried to install X my 
mouse would not respond.I've tried everything I could but nothing seems to 
work.Before installing Debian I was using Mandrake Linux and my mouse worked 
fine.What do I need to do to get my mouse working.My system is a Compaq 5304 
with what I believe to be a 2-button ps/2 mouse by logitech.Any info at all 
would be extremely helpful.
 

  thank 
you and looking forward to the Hurd
 
 
 

backspace no longer working in some apps

[paul]

I have updated my Slink machine to use the XFree86 3.3.6 packages available 
from Vincent's XFree86-update directory, and now the backspace key no longer 
works when using applications run in xterm.  Specifically, if I run top in an 
xterm and type "u" to show only one users processes, I cannot use backspace to 
delete a typo.  Also in dselect,I cannot use backspace to delete a typo when 
using search.  I'm sure that this is one problem causing both.  I'm also sure 
that there are more instances of this that I've not run into yet (it's only 
been ten minutes since the upgrade) How do I fix this?


I know that this has come up recently, but I've been unable to find the 
previous thread that a fix for this was posted to.  If someone could point me 
to the previous thread about this, and to the appropriate docs, I would be 
greatly appreciative.

-ptw

(no subject)

[HiiMDeeG]

mail me PQmagic 4 Please

Re: deleting getty

[Brad]

On Sat, Feb 12, 2000 at 08:18:51AM -0500, Henry White wrote:
> I was about to do apt-get -f dist-upgrade from slink to woody 
> when I got this:
> 
> WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed
> This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
>   getty
> 143 packages upgraded, 34 newly installed, 3 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
> 2 packages not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 35.0MB of archives. After unpacking 21.9MB will be used.
> You are about to do something potentially harmful
> To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, I understand this may be bad'
> [?]
> 
> Curiously, getty is the latest version. So what's the secret to getting 
> around this problem?

It appears that getty is now a part of util-linux, as of version
2.7.1-1. The current version in woody (2.10f-2) has Conflicts and
Replaces lines for getty.

Maybe apt-get should realize the Replaces and make note of it.
"util-linux claims to replace getty" or something similar.


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socks5 libraries

[Pollywog]

I tried to compile Licq with SOCKS5 support, but the SOCKS libraries in the
libsocksd and libsocksd-dev packages would not suffice.  I had to install NEC
SOCKS in order to get this to work.  Are these in fact the same libraries but
with different names?

NEC SOCKS libs have names like
/usr/local/lib/libsocks5.a
/usr/local/lib/libsocks5_sh.so
/usr/local/lib/libdsocks.so
/usr/local/lib/libdsocks.so.0.1.0
/usr/local/lib/libdsocks.so.0
/usr/local/lib/libdsocks.la

but the ones in the Debian packages look like

./usr/lib/libsocksd.a   devel/libsocksd-dev
./usr/lib/libsocksd.so  devel/libsocksd-dev
./usr/lib/libsocksd.so.0libs/libsocksd
./usr/lib/libsocksd.so.0.1.0   

I am wondering if perhaps I can symlink these so that I can avoid installing b
oth versions, if they are in fact the same. 


thanks

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what is ginstall?

[Pollywog]

I have had this experience with two machines running Debian.  While compiling
some apps, during 'make install', I get an error about not
finding "ginstall".  I solved this by making a symlink:

ln -s install ginstall

Has anyone else had this problem?  

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Why don't mail apps tell me of folder changes any more?

[Phillip Deackes]

I use Ishmail and it always showed a flag on each folder which had
receved new mail. For some time now this has only happened for the
system mail folder and outgoing. If I use exmh, or any other mail app
which shows folder status I still get no feedback. It is like something
has been switched off. Surely it is just looking for a change in a
particular file?

Any ideas what I might have done?


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Re: Mail front end

[webmaster]

> Can anyone tell me if there is a supported and
> fairly bug-free front end for mail?
As we are at the topic:
where can I find "pine" on Debian V2.1.9 slink?

Uwe

Re: Syslog and kern.log after upgrade

[Randy Edwards]

> Ever since I upgraded to potato my syslog and kern.log has grown to huge
> sizes:
> Feb  9 04:36:34 rademaker kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17
> 130.161.65.12:138 130.161.65.127:138 L=242 S=0x00 I=7424 F=0x T=128
> (#6)

   I've gotten a lot of similar errors with one of the recent updates (I've
been running potato for many, many months with out this).  I'd love to find
some docs on what all of the various fields in that log means.

   I assume you're using the IPMasq package?  Using my old firewall rules
gave me something of a break, but I was refusing packages (which seemed
fine) left and right with IPMasq.

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Mail front end

[Timothy Bedding]

Can anyone tell me if there is a supported and
fairly bug-free front end for mail?

Something using an X window (so not mutt).

I think someone mentioned exmh. Is that right?
Is it supported by people? Are there any bugs?

Cordially
Tim

Re: Project Management

[Fabien Ninoles]

On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 01:59:25PM +, Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I wonder if there is any open-source project-management (à lá
> MS-Project) tool available, even if not debianized?

Still in development but already looking great is ToutDoux. Sorry,
no http pointer but it's a gnome project IIRC, so go look at
http://www.gnome.org.

> 
> Thanks
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> 
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Re: C++ dev environment advice

[Jonathan Lupa]

caveat 1: My windows driver writing experience is EXTREMELY limited.
caveat 2: This is of questionable use to debian-user.

On Sat, Feb 12, 2000 at 10:50:24AM -0500, Michael Laing wrote:
> The initial target platform for this app is Windows 98, probably
> implemented as a driver.

Uh oh,  you'll need to use pre 6.0 MSVC++ as they changed their name
mangling in 6 which causes problems for drivers.  I think The Man
recommends v5. (This from the 98 ddk readme's.)

> However, I would like to retain as much cross-platform capability as I
> can and I am most used to doing development in linux.

Ya, kernel modules are the same as VxDs anyway. :) sorry - joke. :)

You'll have to come up with a good strategy to modularize your
system and abstract the interfaces.  Its unfortunate that you can't
use later versions of vc which suck less, but in any event, this isn't
something I could help with without a better understanding of the code
in question. 

> The app needs good thread support (POSIX?) and a few classes like Vector
> and Hashtable, otherwise nothing much special.

Well, Phils advice is good concerning STL.  That said, I've had bad
luck using STL on pre 2.95 gcc's as well as pre MSVC++6 compilers, so
YMMV. I know of no class that would transparently wrap the win32
threads and pthreads, though that doesn't mean one doesn't exist (of
course, I'll be happy to use your GPLed code once its done). :)

You can get the DDKs from the MSDN subscription.  You'll need a copy
of VC5, and VC1.52 for the 16 bit work. The 95 DDK costs money, but
you can compile 95 drivers with the 98 DDK in "compatibility mode". It
is possible other non-MS compilers would also work, but I don't know.

If you can get out of writing a 98 driver - push it to just an NT
service for example, you would probably be able to be much more clean
in your cross platform support,  NT Service code can be abstracted to
a single class easily, freeing the rest of your functionality from
that wart and allowing you to do your work in vc6 which has fairly
solid template support (make sure you patch the STL source with
updates from dinkumware.com.  It is possible that not all 98 drivers
need a 16 bit mode, but the one I'm working on certainly does.

Good luck!

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Re: PHP4 - Does anyone have the .deb pkg working?

[Gergely Madarasz]

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, jeb wrote:

> I was happy to see the php4 debian module ready for use. I've been 
> using hte php3 module (from the .deb package) and was generally 
> very happy with it.
> 
> I installed the php4 package; now php3 files won't work at all.  Php3 
> files aren't being interepreted by the apache module.  I did check 
> the apache configuration to make sure the php4 module is loaded, 
> but it seems to be quite dead.  I made an attempt to edit the 
> srm.conf to ensure the php3 mime type was identified.  I made sure 
> the php4 library really existed where apache was told to look for it.

The mime type changed, php3 used application/x-httpd-php3, with extension
php3, php4 uses application/x-httpd-php with extension php. So you just
name your files something.php, or override the .php3 extension to
appilcation/x-httpd-php

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Re: C++ dev environment advice

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> I have a small multithreaded java app that I need to convert to C++. I
> am an experienced C and java developer transitioning to C++.
> 
> The initial target platform for this app is Windows 98, probably
> implemented as a driver.
> 
> However, I would like to retain as much cross-platform capability as I
> can and I am most used to doing development in linux.
> 
> The app needs good thread support (POSIX?) and a few classes like Vector
> and Hashtable, otherwise nothing much special.

In the STL (standard type library) there are ADTs of that type.  I'm not
the person to ask as to how to use 'em, though.

> Does anyone have any advice for me? My company has a microsoft
> developer connection subscription so I can get any of that stuff,
> although I am unfamiliar with it.

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C++ dev environment advice

[Michael Laing]

I have a small multithreaded java app that I need to convert to C++. I
am an experienced C and java developer transitioning to C++.

The initial target platform for this app is Windows 98, probably
implemented as a driver.

However, I would like to retain as much cross-platform capability as I
can and I am most used to doing development in linux.

The app needs good thread support (POSIX?) and a few classes like Vector
and Hashtable, otherwise nothing much special.

Does anyone have any advice for me? My company has a microsoft developer
connection subscription so I can get any of that stuff, although I am
unfamiliar with it.

Michael Laing

Re: Sound Troubles

[Frank Barknecht]

Cameron Matheson hat gesagt: // Cameron Matheson wrote:

> I mailed a little while ago, but I did not explain myself well enough.  I
> have sound with CD and in Enlightenment, so I know it works.  None of the
> games that Debian came with have sound.  Why not?

What games are you trying to play? Is the enlightenment sound daemon runnig
(ps aux | grep esd)? If so, try killing it (killall esd) and check if the
games have sound now.

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cp of big file causes high loadavg

[Remco van 't Veer]

When moving or copying a big file (>100Mb) across filesystems, the
loadavg climbs from below 1 to 5, X screen refresh gets choppy and
xmms starts to stutter.

Anybody know any tweaks to avoid this problem?  I played around with
hdparm but the problem remains.  Sysctl maybe?

I am using a P3 with 256Mb RAM and 3 IDE harddisks running potato.

TIA,
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Re: Unidentified subject!

[John Foster]

> On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Lars Sander-Green wrote:
> 
> lars_i >I recently installed the most recent version of the Debian base 
> system on an
> lars_i >old 486 (with a clean system) from floppy disks. Everything seemed to 
> be
> lars_i >working fine and the base was installed, but when I tried to boot it 
> from
> lars_i >the HD it returned only the message LI and then froze. I managed to 
> boot
> lars_i >from the rescue disk and re-installed because I couldn't figure out 
> the
> lars_i >problem. After the second instalation nothing was improved; in fact, 
> the
> lars_i >rescue disk now returns LI. I have tried three different disks and 
> numerous
> lars_i >reformats, but the disk refuses to boot. Althoug I'm not sure, the 
> fact that
> lars_i >the system claimed my root sector was set to read-only and wouldn't 
> let me
> lars_i >change it to writeable may have something to do with the no-boot from 
> the
> lars_i >HD, but it doesn't explain the no-boot from the rescue disk. Any help,
> lars_i >either to succesfully boot the system or to completely re-install it, 
> would
> lars_i >be appreciated.
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you have not done anything to the tast install, try booting from the
rescue disk and running lilo-config to set all of the boot parameters,
then run lilo to install the boot loader into the MBR. You should read
the installation instructions on the web site for other items you may
have missed.
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PHP4 - Does anyone have the .deb pkg working?

[jeb]

I was happy to see the php4 debian module ready for use. I've been 
using hte php3 module (from the .deb package) and was generally 
very happy with it.

I installed the php4 package; now php3 files won't work at all.  Php3 
files aren't being interepreted by the apache module.  I did check 
the apache configuration to make sure the php4 module is loaded, 
but it seems to be quite dead.  I made an attempt to edit the 
srm.conf to ensure the php3 mime type was identified.  I made sure 
the php4 library really existed where apache was told to look for it.

I'm probably overlooking something really basic and simple, since 
I'm not an Apache guru.

Any help or leads would be appreciated.

Thanks,

JEB

deleting getty

[Henry White]

I was about to do apt-get -f dist-upgrade from slink to woody 
when I got this:

WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed
This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
  getty
143 packages upgraded, 34 newly installed, 3 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
2 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 35.0MB of archives. After unpacking 21.9MB will be used.
You are about to do something potentially harmful
To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, I understand this may be bad'
[?]

Curiously, getty is the latest version. So what's the secret to getting 
around this problem?

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Re: Check This Out!

[Onno]

At 04:25 PM 2/11/00 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Onno> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>> Onno> >SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data:
>> Onno> >host mx1.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.249]:
>> Onno> >552 qdirdel.1 error 100:User is over the quota.  You can try 
>> again later.
>means that your disk space is full -^
>maybe you delete old files from your mailbox?

My disk space??? Nah, if you read the error message carefully you can see 
that the disk space of [EMAIL PROTECTED] is over quote, not mine.

Thanks anyway,

Onno

Re: time/date problems

[Ethan Benson]

On Sat, Feb 12, 2000 at 11:42:26AM +, Ed Cogburn wrote:
> 
> 
>   I'll look at this when I have some time, but when my machine shuts
> down I see a message saying "hardware clock being updated" or
> something like that.  This behavior may be part of the ntpdate
> package, I didn't consider that possibility.

no that is the hwclock package doing that, and it does it regardless
of whether you keep the hardware clock set to GMT or not, all that
setting changes is whether hwclock updates the RTC to current GMT time
or current local time.  it has nothing to do with DST.

-- 
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Missing modules in python

[Egbert Bouwman]

The import of glob, fnmatch and shutil 
gives an ImportError in Python 1.5.1, slink.
Who has left them out, and why ?
egbert
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Re: time/date problems

[Ed Cogburn]

David Wright wrote:
> 
> Quoting Ed Cogburn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> >
> >   This isn't exactly true.  You can keep your hardware clock on local,
> > and you can tell Linux to use local time (keeping it from messing
> > around).  Linux does not set my hardware clock to GMT at shutdown, it
> > sets it with local time, which is what I want because I use ntpdate to
> > update date/time every time I bring up a net connection.  Sure,
> > setting up GMT is the Unix(TM) thing to do, but why bother?  It knows
> > my timezone, handles daylight savings automatically, and it stays
> 
>^^
> 
> How does it do this? If it changes the hardware clock, I call this
> messing around. The trouble is, the Broken OS also messes around
> and suddenly you've jumped two hours instead of one.. (If it doesn't
> change the hardware clock, then it's not running local time, is it.)


I'll look at this when I have some time, but when my machine shuts
down I see a message saying "hardware clock being updated" or
something like that.  This behavior may be part of the ntpdate
package, I didn't consider that possibility.


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Ed C.

Re: Newbie ?: setgid /home

[Ethan Benson]

On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 07:15:15PM -0500, John Dalbec wrote:
> I just noticed that my /home partition has the setgid permission bit.
> Is this normal for Debian?  Security problem?  Hacked system?
> TIA,
> John

its not a security problem, though I am not entirely sure of the
point..

here is what it does:

on *BSD systems whenever a file is created it's group is set to the
group that owns the parent directory, on SysV like systems (which
linux is more similar) the group of a newly created file is always
that of the creating user's primary group (in /etc/passwd every user
has a numeric User ID (UID) and a numeric Group ID (GID), the GID
corrosponds to a group in /etc/group) what the setgid bit on a
directory does in linux (and possibly other SysV systems) is revert
the file creation behavior to BSD, now files created under /home will
always have the group set to that of /home (which is staff i think)

now by default debian uses the `user private group' scheme when
creating users, this means that when a user is created a new group
with the same name and numeric ID is created as the users primary
group. so when i created by account `eb' it was created as uid 1000
with primary group being gid 1000 (which is a group called `eb' with
no members) and my home directory was created with its owner and group
set to eb.eb and the setgid bit set. 

the point of that is so you can have a umask of 002 without giving
everyone in your group write permission to everything (since your
primary group has only you as a member) then when you create a new
directory you want to share with others you can change its group to
one that does have other users as members, the setgid bit ensures that
files you create thier get the shared group instead of your private
group. 

personally I prefer to remove the setgid bit from /home and change its
group to root and its permissions to 755 (they are default to group
writable)  I also don't usually keep the setgid bit on the home
directories since its really not needed, its only needed when a user
wants to have a directory and its contents always have different group
membership then thier primary group, in that case they can set the
setgid bit themself IMO.

(I also think the 002 umask is gross, 027 seems more logical to
me.. (with the main home directory group set to `users' which all
shell accounts are a member of, and a mode of 710) YMMV of course.)

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Forcing an install with dpkg - apt complains

[Phillip Deackes]

I downloaded a debian package of kisdn. When I tried to install it, it
complained that I needed qt1.4 or higher. I actually have libqt1g
v1.45-0.4, but this wasn't good enough. I forced the install and kisdn
ran perefectly. Unfortuantely each time I ran apt-get it complained
about unmet dependencies for kisdn and would not procede with whatever I
wanted to do.

I removed kisdn and installed the rpm version (with rpm -Uvh --nodeps
kisdn-1.1.0-1-rh61-kde-1.1.i386.rpm) No problems now.

This is not a good solution. How does one tell apt that the
force-installed package is OK and to stop complaining?!


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Using Debian Linux 

Re: Opera

[Matt Miller]

On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 10:15:48AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This is rough
> software with quite a way to go before it reaches Prime Time. 

I thought the user interface was basically cool, but I dropped
Opera after reading some of their documentation on
JavaScript and other 'unsafe' languages.  They seemed to be
saying that they supported scripting languages, but that you
really shouldn't be using one.

My impression was that they
wanted to avoid the effort to properly support JavaScript, 
so they made fun of the language.  Reminded me of the way 
MySQL makes fun database features (e.g. foreign keys) that
it doesn't support.

Re: PPPOE, ipmasq, and news - Fixed!

[Marc Sherman]

From: "Marc Sherman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > I have a debian box running pppoe and ipmasq set up as
> > a router/firewall for a home network.  I have a Win98
> > machine behind the firewall.
> > 
> > I can't read news on the win98 machine (using my ISPs
> > news server, news1.sympatico.ca).  I've tried a number
> > of news clients (OE5, Free Agent, etc) on the win98
> > box - this seems to be a problem with the ipmasq, I
> > think.  I could read news on the Win98 machine fine
> > when it was connected directly to the ADSL modem,
> > running its own PPPOE driver.

It turns out that the MTU on the windows box was
not set correctly - the default was too high for
use with PPPOE.  Manually setting it to 1400 worked.
I'm not sure why this would only cause problems with
news, but if I really wanted to know that much about
windows networking, I wouldn't be installing debian
on the other machine in the first place... :)

- Marc

Re: nsswitch solution:explanation required

[Howard Mann]

Ben Collins wrote:
> 
> >
> > I did this by trial-and error, not with any insight. I believe the
> > change involving the "hosts" or "networks" lines finally did the
> > trick.
> >
> 
> I would hazard a guess that it is because your cable provider is using a
> non-standard netmask/broadcast for whatever private network you are on.
> Either that or you aren't specifying it in your network config, so it is
> using the defaults.

Thanks for your reply. The router does perform NAT. My
/etc/init.d/network now reads :

#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
IPADDR=10.0.0.2
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=10.0.0.0
BROADCAST=10.0.0.255
GATEWAY=10.0.0.1
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
[ "${GATEWAY}" ] && route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1


Is there anything unusual here ?

Cheers,

Howard Mann.

Re: nsswitch solution:explanation required

[Ben Collins]

> 
> I did this by trial-and error, not with any insight. I believe the
> change involving the "hosts" or "networks" lines finally did the
> trick.
> 

I would hazard a guess that it is because your cable provider is using a
non-standard netmask/broadcast for whatever private network you are on.
Either that or you aren't specifying it in your network config, so it is
using the defaults.

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nsswitch solution:explanation required

[Howard Mann]

Hi,

Background: I use DSL with Slink. My ISP recently mandated a change in
the configuration of the DSL router from "bridging" to "ppp" mode.
After the change, I could not resolve names ( DNS ). nslookup would
fail. The "route" command would take a _long_ time to print the final
" default gateway" line.

I corrected this by editing the /etc/nsswitch file as follows  ( * =
change) :

BEFORE   AFTER

passwd: compat  compat
group:  compat  compat
shadow: compat  compat

hosts:  files dns   dns  files  *
networks:   files   nis   files  *

protocols:  db files db  files
services:   db files db  files
ethers: db files db  files
rpc:db files db  files

netgroup:   db  filesnis  *


I did this by trial-and error, not with any insight. I believe the
change involving the "hosts" or "networks" lines finally did the
trick.

Can anyone explain why this worked ?

Thanks,


Howard Mann.


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Re: Slink -> Frozen = No Internet

[Chris Hoover]

There is nothing in the /var/lock after a clean reboot.  Also, if I drop back
to the old 2.0.36 kernel, the problem clears.  This is very perplexing since my
other 3 linux boxes are all running the same type of setup (potato/2.2.14).

Any other ideas?

 On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 10:30:55AM -0800, Chris HOOVER wrote:
> > HELP,
> > 
> >   I finally took the plunge and upgraded my linux
> > server from slink to frozen last night.  After running
> > apt-get dist-upgrade and moving from 2.0.36 to 2.2.14,
> > I can no longer dial out to the internet.  When I try
> > to run pon, syslog reports that /dev/ttyS2 (my modem)
> > is locked.  I tried doing another reboot, but that did
> > not clear up the problem.
> > 
> >  Can someone help me fix this problem.
> 
> Did you check for a stale lock in /var/lock/ ? If there's one, rm it and
> retry.
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Re: Don't use gcc 2.95 with 2.2.x kernels, revisted

[John Hasler]

Andrew writes:
> I might have this on my Slink CD.  What other packages will need to be
> downgraded also?

None.  You can also use update-alternatives to make cc point to gcc272 if
you want.
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Re: lp port problems (again)

[paul]

> > "Cameron" == Cameron Matheson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Cameron> Hey, Thanks to your help, I have configured my parallel
> Cameron> port on my slink Debian box, but I still can't print.  My
> Cameron> problem now, is that when I run lp i get the error:
> 
> Cameron> lp: Driver configured but no interfaces found
> 
> If you're running kernel 2.2, make sure you load the module
> parport_pc.
> 
and make sure the device is there. (/dev/lp*) if not see "man MAKEDEV"
-ptw

Re: Sound Troubles

[Eric G . Miller]

On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 02:45:22PM -0700, Cameron Matheson wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I mailed a little while ago, but I did not explain myself well enough.  I
> have sound with CD and in Enlightenment, so I know it works.  None of the
> games that Debian came with have sound.  Why not?
> 
> Thanks,
> Cameron Matheson

Just because you can play CDs doesn't mean your soundcard is configured
properly. Can you play a random wav file?
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Re: Slink -> Frozen = No Internet

[Eric G . Miller]

On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 10:30:55AM -0800, Chris HOOVER wrote:
> HELP,
> 
>   I finally took the plunge and upgraded my linux
> server from slink to frozen last night.  After running
> apt-get dist-upgrade and moving from 2.0.36 to 2.2.14,
> I can no longer dial out to the internet.  When I try
> to run pon, syslog reports that /dev/ttyS2 (my modem)
> is locked.  I tried doing another reboot, but that did
> not clear up the problem.
> 
>  Can someone help me fix this problem.

Did you check for a stale lock in /var/lock/ ? If there's one, rm it and
retry.
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Re: Mouse has a mind of its own...

[Eric G . Miller]

It's also possible you chose the wrong protocol for X. I can get my PS/2
mouse to work badly (like you describe) using a protocol other than
PS/2. 
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Re: Don't use gcc 2.95 with 2.2.x kernels, revisted

[Rick Macdonald]

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Ethan Benson wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 02:37:42PM -0700, Rick Macdonald wrote:
> > 
> > http://kernelnotes.org/kpatch22.html
> 
> bah, kernelnotes is inherently outdated...

> that was 2.2.13, check the 2.2.14 Errata page (which kernelnotes still
> has not bothered to post):
> 
> http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/relnotes.2214.html

Thanks. I had looked around and couldn't find the notes for 2.2.14.

...RickM...

Re: Don't use gcc 2.95 with 2.2.x kernels, revisted

[Pollywog]

On 12-Feb-2000 John Hasler wrote:
> Ron writes:
>> I know it is possible to have multiple gcc's running on you system, but I
>> don't know how you can do it..
> 
> Install gcc272.

I might have this on my Slink CD.  What other packages will need to be
downgraded also?

thanks

--
Andrew

Re: Don't use gcc 2.95 with 2.2.x kernels, revisted

[Pollywog]

On 12-Feb-2000 Ron Rademaker wrote:
> That is definately possible,  I know it is possible to have multiple gcc's
> running on you system, but I don't know how you can do it... try HOWTO's
> and manpages, that should let you know how.

I don't want multiple gcc versions, I just want to downgrade to a more stable
version without breaking my system.

thanks

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Andrew

Re: Don't use gcc 2.95 with 2.2.x kernels, revisted

[John Hasler]

Ron writes:
> I know it is possible to have multiple gcc's running on you system, but I
> don't know how you can do it..

Install gcc272.
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Re: Don't use gcc 2.95 with 2.2.x kernels, revisted

[Ron Rademaker]

That is definately possible,  I know it is possible to have multiple gcc's
running on you system, but I don't know how you can do it... try HOWTO's
and manpages, that should let you know how.

Ron

==

Linux meets Southpark:

- Oh my god, they killed init!
- You bastard!!

==

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Pollywog wrote:

> Would it be possible to go back to an older gcc without breaking my system?
> I have a slink CD so I probably have something older if it would work.
> 
> tnx
> 
> --
> Andrew
> 
> > Compilers 
> > This code is intended to build with gcc 2.7.2 and egcs
> > 1.1.2. Patches for building with gcc 2.95 are merged but less tested
> > than other compilers. Caution is recommended when using gcc 2.95 and
> > feedback is sought.
> > ---
> > 
> > so the kernel developers will no longer blow off bug reports if the
> > compiler used was 2.95, in fact they now welcome bug reports related
> -> to compiler issues.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Don't use gcc 2.95 with 2.2.x kernels, revisted

[Pollywog]

Would it be possible to go back to an older gcc without breaking my system?
I have a slink CD so I probably have something older if it would work.

tnx

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> Compilers 
> This code is intended to build with gcc 2.7.2 and egcs
> 1.1.2. Patches for building with gcc 2.95 are merged but less tested
> than other compilers. Caution is recommended when using gcc 2.95 and
> feedback is sought.
> ---
> 
> so the kernel developers will no longer blow off bug reports if the
> compiler used was 2.95, in fact they now welcome bug reports related
-> to compiler issues.

RE: rdate fails Y2K?

[Larry Fletcher]

I searched through all of the old messages on this subject and
couldn't find a fix for the problem, except using another time
server.

My problem is I'm behind a firewall and can only use a local
time server that won't work with rdate.  Has rdate been fixed
yet?  If so, is there somewhere can I get a copy that will work
with Slink?

   Larry

Re: Don't use gcc 2.95 with 2.2.x kernels, revisted

[Ethan Benson]

On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 02:37:42PM -0700, Rick Macdonald wrote:
> 
> http://kernelnotes.org/kpatch22.html

bah, kernelnotes is inherently outdated...
 
> Linux 2.2.13 Release Notes
> 
>   Errata
> 
>   Compilers
>   This code is intended to build with gcc 2.7.2 and egcs 1.1.2. It is
> known that not all of it builds validly on the x86 CPU's with gcc
>   2.95. As far as we know these are Linux not gcc issues. Fixes for
> gcc 2.95 to gcc 3.0 may go into Linux 2.2 in time. You should
>   therefore not use gcc 2.95 to build stable kernels for the moment. 

that was 2.2.13, check the 2.2.14 Errata page (which kernelnotes still
has not bothered to post):

http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/relnotes.2214.html

---
Errata

Compilers 
This code is intended to build with gcc 2.7.2 and egcs
1.1.2. Patches for building with gcc 2.95 are merged but less tested
than other compilers. Caution is recommended when using gcc 2.95 and
feedback is sought.
---

so the kernel developers will no longer blow off bug reports if the
compiler used was 2.95, in fact they now welcome bug reports related
to compiler issues.

in short, if you want a definitely stable kernel use egcs 1.1.2 if you
want to take a [very] slight risk 2.95 is fine.

-- 
Ethan Benson

Re: lp port problems (again)

[Colin Walters]

> "Cameron" == Cameron Matheson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Cameron> Hey, Thanks to your help, I have configured my parallel
Cameron> port on my slink Debian box, but I still can't print.  My
Cameron> problem now, is that when I run lp i get the error:

Cameron> lp: Driver configured but no interfaces found

If you're running kernel 2.2, make sure you load the module
parport_pc.

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Re: thumbs

[Damon Muller]

Quoth Evan Moore, 
> here is there a deb package for a program that will generate thumbnail
> images from jepeg images. Thanks Evan

Try `convert' from the ImageMagick package. Works well for me.

cheers,

damon

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lp port problems (again)

[Cameron Matheson]

Hey,

 Thanks to your help, I have configured my parallel port on my slink Debian
box, but I still can't print.  My problem now, is that when I run lp i get
the error:

lp: Driver configured but no interfaces found

I have tried this with two different printers, so I don't know what could be
wrong.  Please help.

Thanks
Cameron Matheson

Re: ARGH! "Frozen" is back....

[Mike Werner]

On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 01:44:48PM -0800, Joe Emenaker wrote:
> 
> > Why not just point apt at the *name* of the release that you want?
> >
> > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free
> > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib
> non-free
> >
> > This way you don't have to worry about it.
> 
> Well, you see, my sysadmin style is very "short attention span". I manage
> about 10 Debian boxes and I like to keep them up to date by doing the
> following:
> 
>   run dselect
>   [U]pdate... clear available list...
>   [S]elect... and then just hit  to make sure we select any
> newly-required debs.
>   [I]nstall... download all, install, remove installed
>   [C]onfig...
>   [Q]uit
> 
> All in all, this usually takes about 5 minutes of my attention per machine
> per update. Also, since I always want my machines on the bleeding edge, I
> always want the latest of whatever's available. If I just pointed dselect
> and apt to "woody" instead of "unstable", then, in about a year, I "woody"
> wouldn't be the latest dist anymore. (I mean, that's the whole reason the
> "stable", "frozen", and "unstable" symlinks are there in the first place,
> no?)

For someone that wants to stay bleeding edge at all times, I would
not have made the recommendation that I did.  The person I was replying
to did not say that they wanted bleeding edge, and I made the presumption
that they did not want bleeding edge.  The message I was replying to
sounded like they wanted to stay with one particular release - *that*
is why I said to point at an actual release name.

If, on the other hand, they had stated that they wanted to stay bleeding
edge at all times I would have told them to point apt at unstable and
have cron run a script containing:
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
at whatever interval suits them.  Or do it manually as you do.  Whatever
method works best.
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Re: unix98 pty

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> I have compiled a 2.2.14 kernel with Unix98 pty support. Is there a
> package that will create the appropiate files/links under /dev ? I
> don't want to boot the kernel until the tty's are created, else I may
> not be able to get a console after booting.

In my experience if you build a kernel with /dev/pts filesystem support
and Unix98 ptys (you can't have one without the other)
/etc/init.d/devpts.sh will handle the switchover automatically.

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"There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the
universe. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

thumbs

[Evan Moore]

here is there a deb package for a program that will generate thumbnail
images from jepeg images. Thanks Evan

Re: the uninstall approach...

[Tom Pfeifer]

DOS/Win9X fdisk can not delete non-DOS partitions (such as Linux
partitions) when they are inside an extended partition, and will then
also refuse to delete the extended partition itself in that case.

If you still have a Linux boot floppy around with Linux fdisk or cfdisk
on it, that will do it. Otherwise you need another partitioning program
to clear the partition table. Here's a pretty good DOS-based one called
Ranish Partition Manager:

http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/

Tom

pplaw wrote:
> 
> debs,
> 
> i've been using a few boxes at work for learning and using
> dlinux.  before i roll out a new box (for myself),  i need to
> make the ones i had been using 100% windoze--or in other words, i
> need to free-up  the part of the hard drives linux was using.
> with the rescue disk, i already deleted the linux
> partition/data;  but after i formatted c:\, i still get a
> extended partition that fdisk cannot delete.  (example:  in one
> of the boxes, i have a 2.5gb hard drive.  i used 2gb for hda1 and
> swap, leaving .5gb for windoze.  after reformatting, i still only
> show c:\ as being .5gb, instead of 2.5gb.  i need c:\ to see the
> other 2gb.)
> 
> so what's the proper way to uninstall debian linux?
> 
> (the sooner i figure this out, the sooner i can _install_ slink
> in the new box.)
> 
> ia, t.
> 
> --
> 
> >> Bentley Taylor <<
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>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

Newbie ?: setgid /home

[John Dalbec]

I just noticed that my /home partition has the setgid permission bit.
Is this normal for Debian?  Security problem?  Hacked system?
TIA,
John

Re: ARGH! "Frozen" is back....

[Joey Hess]

Joe Emenaker wrote:
> Problem is that unstable doesn't always have everything. From what I can
> tell, when a release is frozen, everything from "unstable" is moved to
> "frozen".

No it isn't. Links are used. Unstable is still just as usable as it ever is.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/debian/debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386>find |grep 
\\.deb |wc -l
   3984
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/debian/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386>find |grep 
\\.deb |wc -l
   4029
   
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Re: ARGH! "Frozen" is back....

[Joe Emenaker]

> Joe Emenaker wrote:
> > All in all, this usually takes about 5 minutes of my attention per
machine
> > per update. Also, since I always want my machines on the bleeding edge,
I
> > always want the latest of whatever's available. If I just pointed
dselect
> > and apt to "woody" instead of "unstable", then, in about a year, I
"woody"
> > wouldn't be the latest dist anymore. (I mean, that's the whole reason
the
> > "stable", "frozen", and "unstable" symlinks are there in the first
place,
> > no?)
>
> If you want the bleeding edge, keep it pointed to unstable. Frozen is for
> people who want to lend Debian a hand by testing the upcoming release.

Problem is that unstable doesn't always have everything. From what I can
tell, when a release is frozen, everything from "unstable" is moved to
"frozen". From that point on, any new versions of packages are placed in the
new "unstable". The thing to keep in mind here is that (at least with the
last couple releases), "unstable" is *empty* right after a freeze. So, if
you're telling dselect to keep up-to-date with "stable" and "unstable",
then, right after a freeze, you'll suddenly see all of these "obsolete"
packages... because all of the "unstable" packages that you've got installed
have disappeared (having moved to "frozen").. and they'll remain obsolete
until you either start including "frozen" in your updates or until the
maintainer of each of those packages uploads a new version and it goes into
"unstable".

Now, when they freeze a release candidate, if they *copied* "unstable" to
"frozen", then everyone would be happy. But that's not what they've done the
last few times; they've moved them. So, unless dselect is watching "frozen"
as well, it gets the rug pulled out from under it.

- Joe