Re: A cuenta de los Bugs
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: [...] En cualquier caso Debian (como proyecto y las personas que lo forma) suele ser estricto en cuanto a la política de las cosas que se hacen. Si llegara el caso de que un error muy importante se colara en apache y no se pudiera arreglar, posiblemente se eliminaría de la distribución (aunque más probable es que se volviera a una versión sin ese error). Un saludo Javi Podría hablar alguien sobre los ciclos de desarrollo de Debian y su modelo de organización ? Parece ser que una vez que se obtiene una versión estable todo lo nuevo ocurre en la nueva versión inestable salvo algunas correcciones puntuales destinadas a reforzar la seguridad y cosas así que daran origen a sucesivas releases. Supongo que en esta fase la versión del kernel, del compilador de C y de otros importantes paquetes con posibles efectos colaterales nunca se tocan, ni se añaden paquetes nuevos, etc. Después suele pasar bastante tiempo hasta que en un determinado momento (desconozco el criterio) se decide congelar la version inestable y se procede a estabilizarla culminado el proceso en una nueva versión. Me pregunto si es más o menos así y si a lo largo de la historia de esta distribución ha ocurrido algún tipo de cambio en los ciclos de desarrollo de software. Pregunto todo esto porque parece evidente que el aumento de la cantidad y complegidad del software podría suponer la aparición de cuellos de botella y por lo tanto quizas tambien cambios en los modelos de desarrollo de la distribución para evitarlos y siento curiosidad por saber como afronta Debian todo esto. Quizas las etapas de congelación antes eran más rápidas que ahora. Quizas sería bueno establecer una etapa previa a la congelación para estabilizar los paquetes más críticos por ejemplo. Realmente no tengo ni idea como se podría mejorar el sistema actual que yo creo que es básicamente bastante bueno porque funciona, pero me gustaría saber si ha habido acuerdos importantes sobre estas cosas. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Un saludo Antonio Castro +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ /\ /\ Ciberdroide Informatica (tienda linux) \\W// http://www.ciberdroide.com _|0 0|_ +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo--+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher !! Nueva direccion email !! | | http://slug.ctv.es/~acastro. - - - - [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +()()()--()()()--+ +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ (((Donde Linux)))http://www.ciberdroide.com/misc/donde/dondelinux.html +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
Re: Eleccion del servidor de correo
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 11:38:57PM +0200, Thoth wrote: La verdad es que postfix parece ser la nueva estrella. Pues ayer yo lo instalé y hoy he tenido que volver al sendmail de toda la vida :( No logré configurarlo para una intranet detrás de un firewall ---por lo menos hacía lo que dice la documentación y ni con eso--- y encima se chupaba los mensajes sin dejar rastro de ellos. Tomás. _ | | Tomas Bautista. Phone: +34 928 451275 -- Fax: +34 928 451243 | | E-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |#| Home page URL: http://www.cma.ulpgc.es/users/bautista - Applied Microelectronics Research Institute, SICAD Division. # University of Las Palmas de G.C. I.U.M.A. Campus de Tafira, pab. A. E-35017 Las Palmas, Canary Is. Chisholm's Third Law: Proposals, as understood by the proposer, will be judged otherwise by others.
Re: Imagenes de Potato
El sábado 01 de abril de 2000 a la(s) 23:32:56 +0200, Thoth contaba: Y para pasar las imagenes .raw a .iso ¿Como? Pues si no me equivoco: mv imagen.raw imagen.iso [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.14 - Reg. User #87069 lynx -dump http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_dsspubkey.asc | gpg --import - Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
Re: Eleccion del servidor de correo
Tomas Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 11:38:57PM +0200, Thoth wrote: La verdad es que postfix parece ser la nueva estrella. Pues ayer yo lo instalé y hoy he tenido que volver al sendmail de toda la vida :( No logré configurarlo para una intranet detrás de un firewall ---por lo menos hacía lo que dice la documentación y ni con eso--- y encima se chupaba los mensajes sin dejar rastro de ellos. Por que no exim, es facil y potente. Para sitios muy grandes tengo oido que lo mejor es zmailer. -- Saludos. Antonio.
Re: Eleccion del servidor de correo
El dia Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 11:38:57PM +0200, Thoth tuvo a bien escribir: Fernando Sanchez wrote: On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Andres Seco Hernandez wrote: Retomando la cuestión: ¿cual de los MTAs que se incluyen en Potato es mejor, porqué y para qué? Postfix es con seguridad la opción más segura, rápida y respetuosa con el entorno :-) Está hecho para ser compatible 100% con Sendmail (para En barrapunto lo dejan claro, yo llevo usando sendmail mas de dos años, incluso en un servidor con mas de 4000 cuentas de correo y se comportaba bien, pero jeje, es una especie en lenta extincion. La verdad es que postfix parece ser la nueva estrella. Ya... si no fuera porque la otra «nueva estrella», qmail, está completamente documentada en castellano (toda la documentación que viene con el programa y parte de la documentación generada por la comunidad). Para tener el paquete .deb de qmail en Potato, basta con hacer: # apt-get -b source qmail Y en tres minutos tendréis el paquete .deb listo para instalar. Se recomienda también instalar los paquetes ucspi-tcp y daemontools. Mira en: http://www.es.qmail.org/ y el documento de Dave Sill «Mi vida con qmail»: http://www.es.qmail.org/documentacion/usuarios/lwq/ Por lo demás, Postfix pretende competir con qmail, como se dice claramente en postfix.org. Yo creo que esta competencia es buena para el administrador. Gracias a qmail, Postfix y zmailer, el panorama de los MTA obsoletos como Sendmail se despeja a pasos agigantados. En cuanto a las diferencias o ventajas de qmail frente a Postfix, es algo que despierta pasiones. Es como aquellas viejas polémicas de emacs/vi, redhat/debian... hacen correr mucha tinta electrónica y son poco prácticas, a menos que uno conozca perfectamente ambos programas. Recomiento instalar Postfix y qmail, y luego decidir. Saludos, -- panic(Fod fight!); (In the kernel source aha1542.c, after detecting a bad segment list.) -- J. Ivan Juanes Prieto -- Greek and Latin Teacher Canary Islands (Spain) -- Linux Debian 2.1 pgpWYcouZfLdG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Configuracion postfix
He eliminado smail de mi PC e instalado postfix, pero no consigo que funcione del todo bien. ¿Podría alguien enviarme su main.cf? Lo que busco es la configuracion tipica de un pc de casa. Gracias anticipadas, -- Luis Arocha Hernandez data [EMAIL PROTECTED] Islas Canarias - Spain o @ | \O/ | O _ /| // ___ O/ |\-@ //| \\/ O /\ / \\|// //\ ___oo/___//|/___/_o___ Usuario registrado de Linux num: 69.587 Debian GNU/Linux Potato, kernel 2.2.14, Toshiba 220CS.
Gnus y Mime
Buenas... ¿Alguien que utilice el Gnus sabe cómo hacer que utilice el content-transfer-encoding en `8bit' en lugar del `quoted-printable'? Antes utilizaba el paquete `tm' para el mime porque el Gnus no lo manejaba, pero ahora que si lo hace, no consigo cambiarlo a `8bit'. Me he leido la documentación, pero no lo encuentro por ninguna parte. Gracias. Hasta luego. -- David Muriel. Debian GNU/Linux woody + Emacs 20.5.2 + Gnus v5.8.3 Linux registered user #25632 (http://counter.li.org/) The going is tough at first, but if you stick with it, the rewards are great. The first few times I used it, I thought I'd died and gone to hell. Then I used vi for a while -- and ran screaming back to emacs. -- from a post in comp.emacs
[OFFTOPIC] Quicktime VR en Linux ??
Buenas... ¿Alguien sabe si existe alguna herramienta para poder hacer panoramas Quicktime VR en Linux? De momento todos los programas que he encontrado que pueden hacerlo son para güindous (bastante pocos) y para Mac (la mayoría). Es para un proyecto en el que quiero hacer una especie de paseo virtual por un edificio. He probado con VRML, pero no es lo que quiero. Si no se pueden hacer desde Linux, ¿alguien sabe de algún programa que haga algo similar y que luego se pueda ver en diferentes sistemas operativos? Es que una vez que esté hecho sería para ponerlo en una página web. Gracias por adelantado. Hasta luego. -- David Muriel. Debian GNU/Linux woody + Emacs 20.5.2 + Gnus v5.8.3 Linux registered user #25632 (http://counter.li.org/) Linux is userfriendly, but is only a bit selective about its friends :-)
Re: apt-get update offline???
ADnoctum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Para la primera, el apt mira el fichero `sources-list' y actualiza la lista local de paquetes disponibles conectándose a las direcciones del Bueno, tal vez sea complicarme demasiado, pero podrías instalar el apache o algun otro servidor web, colocar los paquetes en /var/www/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/, generar el Packages y Release y en el sources-list colocar: localhost main o lo que corresponda La verdad es que sí que es complicarse un poco, pero creo que puedo hacer algo parecido con el apt-move. Gracias de todas formas. Hasta luego. -- David Muriel. Debian GNU/Linux woody + Emacs 20.5.2 + Gnus v5.8.3 Linux registered user #25632 (http://counter.li.org/) Linux is boring. OTOH, with Windows you never know when it will hang.
Re: Gnus y Mime
David Muriel decía: Buenas... ¿Alguien que utilice el Gnus sabe cómo hacer que utilice el content-transfer-encoding en `8bit' en lugar del `quoted-printable'? Si te refieres a como leer en 8bits los mensajes de correo o noticias, basta pulsar las teclas W y q para que te pase el quoted a 8bit. Lo que ignoro es como hacerlo automáticamente (prescindiendo de W y de q). Salud. -- carlos saldaña [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xserver-svga 3.3.6 para slink
Pues eso, ¿ alguien sabe de donde puedo descargar el paquete .deb del servidor svga 3.3.6 compiado para slink ? Un saludo. Alfredo. -- Linux registered user #98432 Running Debian/GNU Linux 2.1 with kernel 2.2.14 Homepage at http://darkd.virtualave.net
Multiplataforma...
Pessoal... Andei pensando... (calma, estou bem ;-) Já que compilar programas para linux e windows é uma tarefa super comum, não seria legal que existisse um cross compiler, no dselect, para compilar programas windows?? Poderia ser o gcc da cygnus mesmo... Escutei dizer que tem uma forma de fazer com que o gcc compile programas windows, se forem aplicados alguns patches... Alguém tem idéia de como fazer para: 1 - criar um pacote com esse cross compiler 2 - colocar esse pacote pronto em algum repositório de .deb? Eu não tenho muita noção de como começar... Pra ser sincero, nem muito tempo... Mas seria fantástico! Poderiamos desenvolver usando apenas linux, poderiamos tirar de vez o windows de nossas máquinas e ainda assim fornecer para usuários programas compilados para ruindows. O que acham? -- Marcelo Elias Del ValleUIN: 30595143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tilt.8m.com MLinuxer Do you visit GamesNow today?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://games_now.netpedia.net Autronix - Tecnologia em Automação Industrial http://members.xoom.com/autronix
Re: sound hell
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i absolutely can NOT do w/o sound and afraid i'll have to wipe out this drive in favor of Corel this weekend (damn it! why can't debian adopt corel's sound_setup program. it works so nicely!), What's the licence like? If it's free, then maybe we could integrate it. sound_setup is under the CPL, an MPL clone (so DFSG-free, I imagine). It's just a script that does little apart from calling sndconfig, though. That's ripped from Red Hat, and there was some talk on debian-devel a few months back about Debianizing it. I've had a look at it and it's a little tricky because there's a *lot* of RH-specific stuff in there, but I'll see if I can make anything of it. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to fix missing modules after kernel update?
Christian Pernegger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running an up-to-the-minute potato box. Today I compiled a custom 2.2.14 using dkpg-make. It installs and boots fine, except for errors produced by some things that were modules in the standard kernel (nic driver, NLSs,...) and are not modules anymore (either built in or not compiled at all). Those modules are reported not found during bootup. I suspect they are still scheduled for auto-load somewhere, but obviously I can't de-select them in modconf because they are not available in the new kernel... Is there any clean way to resolve this? They may be mentioned in /etc/modules or /etc/modules.conf. Remove them from there (if they're in /etc/modules.conf, remove them from the appropriate file in /etc/modutils instead and run /sbin/update-modules). -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xemacs and the docbook 3.1 dtd's
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 11:03:14AM -0800, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote Hey people - I'm just trying to edit docbook here, and it's quite obvious that emacs doesn't know to look for DTDs. I've found that emacs has a number of options for setting custom search paths for these kinds of files, but I can't decide what to set... It's somewhere under: Emacs/Programming/Languages/Sgml/Psgml/Psgml_Dtd Any ideas? thanks in advance for any help. Works for me here. I use !DOCTYPE Book PUBLIC -//Davenport//DTD DocBook V3.0//EN at the head of my documents, and psgml finds my DTDs OK. I'm using DocBook 3.1, backported to slink. John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdt.net.au/~john Debian Linux admin support:technical services
quake-svga
Hello: I installed the quake-svga package and quake-lib-stub (because I already have the libraries). When I switch to a console and type quake-svga the screen just goes blank, and my monitor goes into powersave mode within a couple of seconds. Does anyone know what might be causing this? Does it happen to have anything to do with the fact that I'm running kernel-level frame buffer (i.e. vga mode text console)? Any hints would be appreciated. Thanks, Matt -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was just reading the interview with Korn in _Guitar_World_, and one of the guitarists said they don't play guitar solos because they've been done. Well, I guess that's true if you stick with what's been done. But you have to look beyond that; there's a lot more left to say on the guitar. -- Warren Haynes of Gov't Mule
installing on an old 486
I'm trying to install Debian on an old 486 sx. From DOS, I put the Debian CD in the drive, then did a d:\install\boot and it loaded up the dbootstrap program as expected. The installation procedure works fine until I get to the Install OS Kernel and Modules. When it asks for a install media, I choose CD-ROM. I selected /dev/hdc and it says mount failed. I actually went through all choices (all /dev/hdx) and the mount always failed. Could the problem be the CD-ROM is some strange proprietary interface that the installer can't talk to? Thanks, Matt -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was just reading the interview with Korn in _Guitar_World_, and one of the guitarists said they don't play guitar solos because they've been done. Well, I guess that's true if you stick with what's been done. But you have to look beyond that; there's a lot more left to say on the guitar. -- Warren Haynes of Gov't Mule
are there other file managers besides gmc?
hello, I would like to know what other file managers are available besides gmc..maybe there is something better out there? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: xemacs and the docbook 3.1 dtd's
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 09:46:37AM +0930, John Pearson wrote: On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 11:03:14AM -0800, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote Hey people - I'm just trying to edit docbook here, and it's quite obvious that emacs doesn't know to look for DTDs. I've found that emacs has a number of options for setting custom search paths for these kinds of files, but I can't decide what to set... It's somewhere under: Emacs/Programming/Languages/Sgml/Psgml/Psgml_Dtd Any ideas? thanks in advance for any help. Works for me here. I use !DOCTYPE Book PUBLIC -//Davenport//DTD DocBook V3.0//EN at the head of my documents, and psgml finds my DTDs OK. I'm using DocBook 3.1, backported to slink. With that header, though, you're still using version 3.0 -- No? I understood the following header is for DocBook 3.1 -- since OASIS is now the maintainer of the Docbook DTD. !DOCTYPE Book PUBLIC -//OASIS//DTD DocBook V3.1//EN -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Re: installing on an old 486
Your CD-ROM could be the culprit. I believe that Debian works off of any ATAPI compatible CD-ROM drive. With other distributions (Redhat) which I used before, my computer would freeze if I started through DOS. Is there any way you can boot directly from the CD-ROM in the BIOS setup program? If not, make a boot floppy and try that. The instructions on how to make a boot floppy are at the Debian website, I believe under Download Installation or something close to that.
Re: ATTN: pjw@edmc.net
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:19:40PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Blacklisters may have the right to speak and *say* what they think I should do, but they have no right to be heard. Your post only rated a 1.5 on my trollometer. Please try harder. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: are there other file managers besides gmc?
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 12:49:53AM +, john smith wrote: hello, I would like to know what other file managers are available besides gmc..maybe there is something better out there? My personal preference is the file manager that comes with tkdesk. It's not GNOMEified or anything, but it works great. You can save metadata about files and directories (which can be a real bonus). It's network centric, has a find utility (including using the annotations on files/dirs), and more. It's a package deal though. You have to run the whole tkdesk -- which is far lighter weight than GNOME/KDE. TkDesk is also very customizable. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
RE: DHCP
On 01-Apr-2000 Chris Mason wrote: How do I force the machine to renew it's DHCP IP allocation? I've changed parameters on the DHCP server and I want the machine to reflect those changes. On a Linux box, just run dhcpc eth0, and it should renew itself. If you running Windows (shudder), Start-run- winipcfg, and hit release all, then renew. Or something like that, this is off the top of my head. Also, how do I get a Linux machine to be a DHCP server? apt-get install dhcp, then change /etc/dhcpd.conf to match your network. Regards, Wim Kerkhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.canadianhomes.net/wim
Re: Questions from a new debian user
Hello, On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 04:57:04PM -0500, Hilary Hertzoff wrote: 2. I downloaded a file from the internet through lynx for the browser I used to use in Windoze. Now I can't find the file. Where would lynx have dropped it. You can tell lynx where to put downloaded files. In the file /usr/local/lib/lynx.cfg (that's the default location) there is an entry called 'SAVE_SPACE:'. Just initialize it with the directory you want to use.. SAVE_SPACE:/save/files/here You can get to the lynx.cfg file through the lynx program itself by typing the letter 'o', which will bring up the options menu, then go to the bottom where it says 'Check you lynx.cfg here'. Just select the link, edit your changes and select 'RELOAD THE CHANGES' when you're done. hth Robert Thanks, Hilary Hilary L. HertzoffFrom here to there, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bunny goes where a bunny must. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Little Bunny on the Move by Peter McCarty -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: sound hell
Hi James, On 31-Mar-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I LOVE YOU! heh, well, no. but seriously. after installing bin86, the kernel did, indeed compile correctly. after many tries, the soundcard still wouldn't work (i did select sound support for Ensoniq pci 97... the chipset for my card). i swapped it w/ a SB AWE64 i had in another machine and xconfig'ed again and selected support for it and, upon reboot, it worked fine. though, nothing i did w/ my PCI 128 ever worked. does anyone have a success story for this card? perhaps i still did something wrong(?) I just spent a day screwing around with this as well with 6 new computers we got here, all with SB 128 PCI cards. I couldn't get the kernel driver to work, so I installed the alsa-modules,alsaconf,and alsa-utils packages, downgraded the kernel from 2.2.14 to 2.2.13 (apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.13), edit my /etc/lilo.conf, ran lilo. I then ran alsaconf, and rebooted. Upon reboot, you should see a whole load of modules loaded. I'm at home right now, but if you send me mail on Monday morning, I can send you my output of lsmod if you want. I had many troubles trying to duplicate this on the other machines. On some of them I ended up copy /etc, /lib/modules, and /boot. This got it working, and wasn't a horrible solution as I had just mirrored all the hard drives the day before. These machines are sweet: PIII-550's, 256MB RAM, Voodoo 3, sb 128 PCI, the are many times faster than what I had before! I hope that gives you some light, let me know how you make out or if you have any problems, so I don't spend time that you have spent doing the same thing. Later, Wim Kerkhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DHCP
On a Linux box, just run dhcpc eth0, I get command not found when I try that. Chris Mason Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 USA Fax (561) 382-7771 Take a virtual tour of the island http://net.ai/ The Anguilla Guide Find out more about NetConcepts www.netconcepts.ai bwz*mq -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wim Kerkhoff Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 9:35 PM To: Chris Mason Cc: Debian-User Subject: RE: DHCP On 01-Apr-2000 Chris Mason wrote: How do I force the machine to renew it's DHCP IP allocation? I've changed parameters on the DHCP server and I want the machine to reflect those changes. and it should renew itself. If you running Windows (shudder), Start-run- winipcfg, and hit release all, then renew. Or something like that, this is off the top of my head. Also, how do I get a Linux machine to be a DHCP server? apt-get install dhcp, then change /etc/dhcpd.conf to match your network. Regards, Wim Kerkhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.canadianhomes.net/wim -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Net network help, please
I'm having a little trouble I could do with some help with, if possible. I have Corel Linux installed. I have a windwosNT network with a NT DHCP / WINS server. It worked fine, the linux box intergrated pretty well, although the DHCP server showed the IP but not the name of the machine. I need to change the IP block in preparation for firewalling an internet feed I am getting. I changed to 192.168.1.x for all the machines, the DHCP/WINS machine is 192.168.1.10 Although the Linux box has been given an IP, I can't ping it from another machine and it can't ping anybody. It seems to be able to get an IP from the DHCP server, the name shows up in the name table so it must be getting to the WINS server, but it is not on the network, and I can't ping it. Any ideas? I don't know the Linux commands to test it, I tried ifconfig and the card has the correct IP and subnetmask. What should the gateway be in this case? Chris Mason Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 USA Fax (561) 382-7771 Take a virtual tour of the island http://net.ai/ The Anguilla Guide Find out more about NetConcepts www.netconcepts.ai bwz*mq
Re: Gnu/Linux 2.1 Install from the CD contained in Debian Gnu/Linux Guide to installation and usage
Steve White wrote: Greetings, I have been following the directions in the manual I bought meticulously, but cannot get the base system installed. First, the disk was purchased from Linux Central along with the book. Next, the directory structure implied by the text in the book is not even close to that on the CD. The book also refers to the rawrite2 program and the resc1440.bin and drv1440.bin files, which were not on the CD either. I got around this little problem by downloading the proper files from the HOWTO site, and hoped that the remainder of the install would go well. Alas, this does not turn out to be the case. I have tried both options in the install program: letting the program find base2_1.tgz, and supplying a path for it manually. However, the automatic option returned a message saying an appropriate path was not found, and when did a filefind on the CD on my other computer, I could not find it either. What is going on? Have I gotten the wrong CD, or have I purchased something other than the Debian GNU/Linux Release 2.1? Any and all help will be appreciated. Best Regards,Steve Hi Steve, Unfortunately there were a batch of these books which came with a bad CD, which I also purchased. Check out the New Rider's web site for a free replacement CD: http://www2.newriders.com/cfm/prod_book.cfm?RecordID=585 - Dan
what is nls_iso8859-1 used for?
hello, modprobe can't find that module (nls_iso8859-1) its supposed to be built into all the kernels right? but where?? what is it used for anyways. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
BOOTP failing (kernel request)
I'm attempting to set up a diskless box (as a dedicated MP3 player) and I can't seem to get everything working. I'm using Etherboot (on a floppy) which does a BOOTP request to my main machine. That works fine--it gets it's IP address and TFTPs a kernel. The kernel starts correctly (as far as I can tell). It correctly sets up eth0 and then the line Sending BOOTP and RARP requests.. appears and it stalls. The BOOTP conversation happens correctly for Etherboot, but not for the kernel network config. Doing a bootpd -d3 to debug bootp, when it stalls, the following appears every time the client retries: bootpd: info(6): recvd pkt from IP addr 0.0.0.0 bootpd: info(6): request from Ethernet address 00:60:97:60:62:EC bootpd: info(6): found 10.0.0.7 (mp3player.gregbaker.local) bootpd: info(6): bootfile=/tftpboot/tagged.mp3player bootpd: info(6): vendor magic field is 99.130.83.99 bootpd: info(6): request message length=364 bootpd: info(6): extended reply, length=364, options=128 bootpd: info(6): sending reply (with RFC1048 options) bootpd: info(6): setarp 10.0.0.7 - 00:60:97:60:62:EC I've tried the DHCP BOOTP implementation too, with similar results. I'm entirely out of ideas on how to fix this. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Greg P.S. My /etc/bootptab: .default:sm=255.0.0.0:ds=10.0.0.1:\ :gw=10.0.0.1:ht=ethernet:\ :dn=gregbaker.local:\ :td=/tftpboot:to=auto: mp3player.gregbaker.local:tc=.default:ha=0060976062EC:\ :ip=10.0.0.7:bf=/tftpboot/tagged.mp3player RARP should also be doing the job: # rarp -a IP address HW type HW address 10.0.0.7 10Mbps Ethernet 00:60:97:60:62:ec --- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. --RFC-1925
Re: ipmasq and howto
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 09:47:51AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:16:16AM +1000, Peter Ross wrote: Install the `ipmasq' package, it will automatically set up IP Masquerading for you providing the IP addresses you have chosen are private ie 10.x.x.x or 192.168.0.x or 172.15.x.x where x can be anything. To be correct, the private networks are 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12 and 192.168.0.0/16. RFC1918 contains all the details. You are indeed correct, thanks for the information. Pete
Re: are there other file managers besides gmc?
john smith wrote: hello, I would like to know what other file managers are available besides gmc..maybe there is something better out there? I like gentoo. Sean
Re: firewall advice
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 09:33:26AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: I'm getting a wireless T1 feed tomorrow and I want to connect my network of windows and Linux machines to the internet securely. I will only have one IP of course. What is the best way to implement this using Corel Linux? I use the ipmasq package from Debian to firewall my gateway machine. It may not be what you want, as it may be a bit more permissive then what you need. Pete
Re: ip masquerading
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 06:48:19PM +0200, Philip Lehman wrote: I'm trying to set up IP masquerading on a slink/potato box which is supposed to route the traffic on my home LAN over an ISDN dial-up line. I have to admit that I have no experience with advanced networking of this kind. I read the IP masquerading HOWTO. It suggests a sample rc.firewall script to set up masquerading and simple firewalling. It appears to me that this interferes with the /etc/init.d/* scripts used by related Debian packages, and I'd rather do it the Debian way. I would recommend installing the ipmasq package, which is reasonably smart and will usually set up IP masquerading for you automatically. rc.firewall wants to run: # echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward # echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_dynaddr I haven't found this in any other script in /etc/init.d/*. What's the default way to do this? Write my own script? Yes. And it wants to run: # /sbin/ipfwadm -F -p deny # /sbin/ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.0.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 I guess this is what /etc/init.d/ipmasq is for, but I'm feeling lost as far as the configuration is concerned. The postinstall script asked for the client IPs on the LAN and I entered that, but where is this stored? Do I have to do anything in addition to that, or can I rely on the defaults? I don't need anything fancy, but the setup should be halfway secure. Have a look in /etc/ipmasq directory. If you are running slink, you may want to install the ipmasq from potato, which may be a bit smarter. Pete
Re: are there other file managers besides gmc?
john smith wrote: hello, I would like to know what other file managers are available besides gmc..maybe there is something better out there? Personally I like fvwm95. It's very configurable and on my box uses less memory than any other. But since we each our own style, go to the following link and pick one you like. www.PLIG.org/xwinman John -- Powered by the Penguin
Re: apt-get dpkg-preconfigure problems
Mark Symonds wrote: E: Sub-process /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt exited unexpectedly E: Failure running script /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt Set DEBCONF_DEBUG=2 in the environment, export it, reproduce, send me the output. newport:/home/mark# dpkg-reconfigure --priority=medium debconf Illegal instruction newport:/home/mark# Hopefully someday dpkg-reconfigure will get a little more verbose... This would tend to indicate that perl got really screwed up and died. I would tend to suspect a hardware error at a first guess. I've *never* seen perl do this. -- see shy jo
WARNING: problems with postgresql-7.0-0.beta3.[12]
I have had some serious bug reports about this release (see bugs 61515 and 61573). If you are tracking woody (unstable) this may affect you. Please do not let the postgresql packages be upgraded automatically; put them on hold. If you decide to upgrade, make absolutely sure you have a backup of $PGDATA (defined in /etc/postgresql/postmaster.init) and also that you have installable debs of 6.5.3-16, so that you can go back if necessary. = To ftp maintainers: please remove these packages from woody to experimental: Binary: ecpg_7.0-0.beta3-2_i386.deb libpgperl_7.0-0.beta3-2_i386.deb libpgsql2_7.0-0.beta3-2_i386.deb libpgtcl_7.0-0.beta3-2_i386.deb odbc-postgresql_7.0-0.beta3-2_i386.deb pgaccess_7.0-0.beta3-2_i386.deb postgresql-client_7.0-0.beta3-2_i386.deb postgresql-contrib_7.0-0.beta3-2_i386.deb postgresql-dev_7.0-0.beta3-2_i386.deb postgresql-doc_7.0-0.beta3-2_all.deb postgresql-pl_7.0-0.beta3-2_i386.deb postgresql-test_7.0-0.beta3-2_i386.deb postgresql_7.0-0.beta3-2_i386.deb python-pygresql_7.0-0.beta3-2_i386.deb Source: postgresql_7.0-0.beta3-2.diff.gz postgresql_7.0-0.beta3-2.dsc postgresql_7.0.orig.tar.gz -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. John 8:36
Kernel panic: No init found.
I just compiled a new 2.2.14 kernel after doing a new potato install and got the message: Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. Does anyone know what is causing this? The 2.2.14-compact kernel installed from the boot-floppies as part of the installation boots without any problems. /etc/inittab, /etc/rcS.d, etc., all look normal. This is a somewhat minimal system (486DX2/66, 16MB) and I assume I messed something up in my kernel config after comparing it with one which works on my other computer I can't figure out what. I've attached .config in case someone can discover the problem. I also tried installing kernel-image-2.2.14-2 from potato, but it reboots in the middle of loading. -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY (RN2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ DM42nh QRP-L #1985 SOC #77http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # # # Code maturity level options # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y # # Processor type and features # # CONFIG_M386 is not set CONFIG_M486=y # CONFIG_M586 is not set # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set # CONFIG_M686 is not set CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y CONFIG_1GB=y # CONFIG_2GB is not set # CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set # CONFIG_MTRR is not set # CONFIG_SMP is not set # # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y # CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set # CONFIG_KMOD is not set # # General setup # CONFIG_NET=y # CONFIG_PCI is not set # CONFIG_MCA is not set # CONFIG_VISWS is not set CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y # CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set CONFIG_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=y # CONFIG_BINFMT_JAVA is not set CONFIG_PARPORT=y CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=y # CONFIG_PARPORT_OTHER is not set # CONFIG_APM is not set # # Plug and Play support # CONFIG_PNP=y # CONFIG_PNP_PARPORT is not set # # Block devices # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y # # Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives # # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640 is not set # CONFIG_IDE_CHIPSETS is not set # # Additional Block Devices # # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=y # CONFIG_PARIDE is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set # # Networking options # # CONFIG_PACKET is not set CONFIG_NETLINK=y # CONFIG_RTNETLINK is not set # CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV is not set CONFIG_FIREWALL=y # CONFIG_FILTER is not set CONFIG_UNIX=y CONFIG_INET=y # CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set # CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL=y # CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL_NETLINK is not set # CONFIG_IP_TRANSPARENT_PROXY is not set CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE=y # # Protocol-specific masquerading support will be built as modules. # CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_ICMP=y # # Protocol-specific masquerading support will be built as modules. # # CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_MOD is not set # CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set # CONFIG_NET_IPGRE is not set # CONFIG_IP_ALIAS is not set # CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES is not set # # (it is safe to leave these untouched) # # CONFIG_INET_RARP is not set CONFIG_SKB_LARGE=y # CONFIG_IPV6 is not set # # # # CONFIG_IPX is not set # CONFIG_ATALK is not set # CONFIG_X25 is not set # CONFIG_LAPB is not set # CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set # CONFIG_LLC is not set # CONFIG_ECONET is not set # CONFIG_WAN_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_NET_FASTROUTE is not set # CONFIG_NET_HW_FLOWCONTROL is not set # CONFIG_CPU_IS_SLOW is not set # # QoS and/or fair queueing # # CONFIG_NET_SCHED is not set # # Telephony Support # # CONFIG_PHONE is not set # CONFIG_PHONE_IXJ is not set # # SCSI support # # CONFIG_SCSI is not set # # Network device support # CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y # # ARCnet devices # # CONFIG_ARCNET is not set CONFIG_DUMMY=m # CONFIG_EQUALIZER is not set # CONFIG_ETHERTAP is not set # CONFIG_NET_SB1000 is not set # # Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) # CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y # CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM is not set # CONFIG_LANCE is not set # CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_SMC is not set # CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_RACAL is not set # CONFIG_RTL8139 is not set CONFIG_NET_ISA=y # CONFIG_AT1700 is not set # CONFIG_E2100 is not set # CONFIG_DEPCA is not set # CONFIG_EWRK3 is not set # CONFIG_EEXPRESS is not set # CONFIG_EEXPRESS_PRO is not set # CONFIG_FMV18X is not set # CONFIG_HPLAN_PLUS is not set # CONFIG_HPLAN is not set # CONFIG_HP100 is not set # CONFIG_ETH16I is not set CONFIG_NE2000=y # CONFIG_SEEQ8005 is not set # CONFIG_SK_G16 is not set # CONFIG_NET_EISA is not set # CONFIG_NET_POCKET is not set # # Ethernet (1000 Mbit) # # CONFIG_ACENIC is not set # CONFIG_YELLOWFIN is not set # CONFIG_SK98LIN is not set # CONFIG_FDDI is not set #
Stock kernel config info?
Is it possible to determine what the configuration settings were for the stock kernels that Debian packages? I need to recompile the kernel (1st time), and I would like to change as little as possible, since the stock kernel is working well for the most part. (I just need to enable ide-scsi module support for a CD-RW install). Also, it appears that you cannot simply compile the modules and install on the existing kernel binary (I tried this and got a bunch of error messages at start-up, and lots of stuff stopped working, including my parallel port). I am surprised by this, expecting that the modules would operate more independently, but I suppose not? Please CC direct to me, as I am only on this list intermittently. Thanks, -- Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ftp problems in masquerading with WIN box
Hi all, I have a Debian box (woody) with IP Masq set-up, no problems with accessing the internet or internally with ftp with my win98 and win2000 box's but if I try to access external ftp sites it logs in, authenticates and then gives the following error 500 Illegal PORT command. * PORT command failed Any ideas on what I've set wrong or haven't set would be greatly appreciated ftp straight from Debian box works fine, but it is used as a router only at this stage, no GUI installed. Thanks in advance Bill * The Mind is like a parachute; it works much better when it's open. *
Re: Kernel panic: No init found.
Bob == Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bob --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bob I just compiled a new 2.2.14 kernel after doing a new potato Bob install and got the message: Bob Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to Bob kernel. Bob Does anyone know what is causing this? The 2.2.14-compact Bob kernel installed from the boot-floppies as part of the Bob installation boots without any problems. /etc/inittab, Bob /etc/rcS.d, etc., all look normal. Bob This is a somewhat minimal system (486DX2/66, 16MB) and I Bob assume I messed something up in my kernel config after Bob comparing it with one which works on my other computer I Bob can't figure out what. I've attached .config in case someone Bob can discover the problem. Bob I also tried installing kernel-image-2.2.14-2 from potato, Bob but it reboots in the middle of loading. Bob -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY (RN2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ Bob DM42nh QRP-L #1985 SOC #77 http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen Bob # Processor type and features Bob CONFIG_M486=y You might try compiling for i386 instead of 486 if you are using a non Intel processor. Bill
Re: ftp problems in masquerading with WIN box
Bill == Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Hi all, I have a Debian box (woody) with IP Masq set-up, no Bill problems with accessing the internet or internally with ftp Bill with my win98 and win2000 box's but if I try to access Bill external ftp sites it logs in, authenticates and then gives Bill the following error Bill 500 Illegal PORT command. * PORT command failed Bill Any ideas on what I've set wrong or haven't set would be Bill greatly appreciated Bill ftp straight from Debian box works fine, but it is used as a Bill router only at this stage, no GUI installed. Bill Thanks in advance Bill Have you installed the ftp module for ipmasq? I use ip_masq_ftp.o with a 2.0.30 kernel. Bill
Re: ftp problems in masquerading with WIN box
Yes, ip_masq_ftp.o is installed in /lib/modules/2.0.36/ipv4/ does this need to be configured? and if so can you please tell me how? Ta Bill - Original Message - From: Bill Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org; recipient list not shown: ; Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 4:04 PM Subject: Re: ftp problems in masquerading with WIN box Bill == Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Hi all, I have a Debian box (woody) with IP Masq set-up, no Bill problems with accessing the internet or internally with ftp Bill with my win98 and win2000 box's but if I try to access Bill external ftp sites it logs in, authenticates and then gives Bill the following error Bill 500 Illegal PORT command. * PORT command failed Bill Any ideas on what I've set wrong or haven't set would be Bill greatly appreciated Bill ftp straight from Debian box works fine, but it is used as a Bill router only at this stage, no GUI installed. Bill Thanks in advance Bill Have you installed the ftp module for ipmasq? I use ip_masq_ftp.o with a 2.0.30 kernel. Bill
RE: (jg) Re: ipmasq and howto
On 01-Apr-2000 matt garman wrote: But still when I do ipchains -M -L I don't get anything. Any ideas? I'm now experiencing the same thing. :-) But as long as I can see the MASQ entry in the output from ipchains -L, things appear to be working. (Now I'm trying to figure out what's made the difference -- why it is that previously I was seeing specific entries with 'ipchains -M -L' and now I'm not...possibly something's been updated, dunno; as long as things keep working, I'm planning not to worry about it too much. :-) -- Jeff -- http://www.wellnow.com There's nothing left in the world to prove. All that's worth doing is to love one another, using whatever means are available to serve.
Re: Stock kernel config info?
Once upon a time, I heard Terry Hancock say Is it possible to determine what the configuration settings were for the stock kernels that Debian packages? If you have .deb kernel install look in /boot/config-?? kervel version no. That should be .config for the kernel configuation. Just copy that file to .config in /usr/src/linux, then reconfig kernel base on that file. Cheers, Chanop -- ,-. | Chanop Silpa-Anan [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Australian National University | | got sparetime ? | | http://kenji.anu.edu.au/| | Debian GNU/BSD GPG key on request | `-' pgpnESKUwnghs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: glibc-compat ???
On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 05:34:20PM +0100, Robert Varga wrote: On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Steve Greenland wrote: However I don't really like 8i, since it needs much more (and it should be written as MUCH MORE) resources than 8.0.5. I know there is one aspect of using 8i on linux when compared with 8.0.5, its being free for development purposes. Robert I totaly agree with Robert. 8i is a memory hog and need X to be installed. I have RH compat packeges installed but I think having native packages is better. Or lets start persuading Oracle to release simpler Oracle version with glibc 2.1 ;-) -- Sincerely yours, Konstantin Kivi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unresolved symbols in 8390.o and pcnet_cs
I made a fresh install (no update) of potato on my laptop. I have a D-link DFE-650 pcmcia ethernet card that has previously worked without problem (also earlier on slink). Now I have problems in getting it to work. /var/log/daemon.log tells that there are unresolved symbols in both 8390.o and pcnet_cs.o. There is no eth0 in ifconfig. The kernel is 2.2.14 from potato installation floppies. The pcmcia modem card I have works fine. 'insmod /lib/modules/2.2.14/pcmcia/8390.o' returns the following: unresolved symbol __kfree_skb_Rc5fdeebf unresolved symbol alloc_skb_R2baeae23 unresolved symbol eth_type_trans_R0b43975d unresolved symbol skb_over_panic_Rf7c92034 unresolved symbol ether_setup_R43debb67 unresolved symbol netif_rx_Rf4daa2a7 Kari
session-manager anyone?
hello, I don't know if this is where I have to ask this but here it goes...How do I use the session-manager? when I click on the session manager properties nothing happens. I can't save any sessions. When I installed the package it said that I had to edit my .Xsession file. I did that already, i.e. what window-manager to use, etc but I can't still save any sessions. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: (jg) Re: ipmasq and howto
But still when I do ipchains -M -L I don't get anything. Any ideas? I'm now experiencing the same thing. :-) But as long as I can see the MASQ entry in the output from ipchains -L, things appear to be working. (Now I'm trying to figure out what's made the difference -- why it is that previously I was seeing specific entries with 'ipchains -M -L' and now I'm not...possibly something's been updated, dunno; as long as things keep working, I'm planning not to worry about it too much. :-) RTFM!!! man ipchains clearly states: -M, --masquerading This option allows viewing of the currently mas queraded connections (in conjuction with the -L option) or to set the kernel masqerading parameters (with the -S option). The emphasis lies on currently*! That is, only if a masqueraded host hast open connections, something will show up! regards -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
Re: what is nls_iso8859-1 used for?
In kernel configuration it is ' native language support, Latin 1, Western European'
Re: what is nls_iso8859-1 used for?
In kernel configuration it is ' native language support, Latin 1, Western European' it is used by the iso9660 filesystem. -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
Re: installing on an old 486
Could the problem be the CD-ROM is some strange proprietary interface that the installer can't talk to? yes, it could be. but that does not necessarily mean, that the installer can't talk to it. you have to load the correct driver module by hand (don't ask me how, i don't know debian). and don't expect the driver to be /dev/hdx - these are only ide drives. it could be something like /dev/sbpcd or /dev/mitsumicd or something like that (the driver will give you probably *some* hint, when loaded). good luck! -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
Switching to console makes X run amok
Hi! It is a minor problem, because I very seldom use the console, but then it is annoying. When I switch from X to console via Ctrl-Alt-F1 I cannot switch back with Ctrl-Alt-F7. Hitting C-A-F7 the screen remains black an the Keyboard is dead. It is only possible to log in remotely and kill the xserver. With top I found out, that when I switch to console my X-server in the background runs amok, using 99% of the CPU. I have no other problem with X on my machine. Does anyone encountered the same problem? On a mixed slink/potato system I am running: xdm3.3.3.1-3.1X display manager xserver-i128 3.3.3.1-3.1X server for Number Nine Imagine 128 xbase-clients 3.3.3.1-3.1miscellaneous X clients xcontrib 3.3.2-3XFree contributed clients. xf86setup 3.3.3.1-3.1X server configuration tools xfonts-100dpi 3.3.2.3a-11100 dpi fonts for X servers xfonts-75dpi 3.3.2.3a-1175 dpi fonts for X servers xfonts-base3.3.2.3a-11standard fonts for X servers xfonts-pex 3.3.2.3a-11fonts for minimal PEX support in X servers xfonts-scalabl 3.3.2.3a-11scalable fonts for X servers xfree86-common 3.3.3.1-3.1X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure xfs3.3.3.1-3.1X font server xfstt 0.9.10-6 TrueType Font Server for X11 Linux jobs 2.0.36 #1 Mon Jan 24 13:30:09 CET 2000 i586 unknown My XF86Config: Section Monitor Identifier Primary Monitor VendorName Unknown ModelName Unknown HorizSync 31.5-82.0 VertRefresh 50-150 Modeline 1152x864 135.00 1152 1464 1592 1776 864 864 876 908 EndSection Section Device Identifier Primary Card VendorName Unknown BoardName None Chipset i128 Option power_saver VideoRam4096 EndSection Section Screen Driver Accel Device Primary Card Monitor Primary Monitor DefaultColorDepth 16 BlankTime 0 SuspendTime 0 OffTime 0 SubSection Display Depth8 Modes1152x864 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth15 Modes1152x864 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth16 Modes1152x864 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth24 Modes1152x864 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth32 Modes1152x864 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Driver SVGA Device Primary Card Monitor Primary Monitor DefaultColorDepth 16 BlankTime 0 SuspendTime 0 OffTime 0 SubSection Display Depth8 Modes1152x864 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth15 Modes1152x864 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth16 Modes1152x864 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth24 Modes1152x864 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth32 Modes1152x864 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Driver VGA16 Device Primary Card Monitor Primary Monitor BlankTime 0 SuspendTime 0 OffTime 0 SubSection Display Depth4 Modes1152x864 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Driver VGA2 Device Primary Card Monitor Primary Monitor BlankTime 0 SuspendTime 0 OffTime 0 SubSection Display Depth1 Modes1152x864 EndSubSection EndSection -- http://hasecke.com/ BUSINESS COMMUNICATION Jan Ulrich Hasecke * Ihr F r e e l a n c e r Text * Konzeption * Werbung * PR * Internet Telefon: 0212-2331483 / Telefax: 0212-2331484
Re: Problems of Potato on Toshiba Tecra510CDT
Hi! I have installed Potato on my laptop Toshiba Tecra510CDT (Card Controller: ToPIC95 Card Bus), but the PC Card Services are not work, I have follow the document PCMCIA How To to checked the information as follows: (1) When I insert or remove card, I can hear the beep sound. (2) The dmesg: Linux PCMCIA CARD Services 3.1.8 kernel build: 2.2.14 unknown options: [pci] [cardbus][apm] ToPIC95-B PCI-to-CardBus at bus 0 slot2, mem0x6800, 2 sockets host opts [0]: [slot 0xf0][ccr 0x1c][cdr 0x86] [[rcc 0x82][no pci irq][lat 168/176][bus 20/20] host opts [1]: [slot 0xf0][ccr 0x2c][cdr 0x86] [[rcc 0x82][no pci irq][lat 168/176][bus 21/21] ISA irqs (default) = 3,4,5,7,9,10,11,12 pollery interval=1000ms (3) lsmod ModuleSizeUsed by ds66002 i82365284842 pcmcia-core443840 (memory_cs ds i82365) (4) The socket status file, stab (I have inserted the 3com574TX) Can't found this file, because it is no sub-directory pcmcia on /var/state or /var/lib (5) cardctl config (I have inserted the 3com574TX): Socket 0: Vcc 5.0VVpp1 5.0V Vpp2 5.0V memory 0x0013-0x1012 @0x000d1000 (6) cardctl ident (I have inserted the 3com574TX): no product info available Would someone tell me what is the problem and how to slove? Thanks! Alex
Re: session-manager anyone?
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 12:57:37AM -0800, Joseph de los Santos wrote: hello, I don't know if this is where I have to ask this but here it goes...How do I use the session-manager? when I click on the session manager properties nothing happens. I can't save any sessions. When I installed the package it said that I had to edit my .Xsession file. I did that already, i.e. what window-manager to use, etc but I can't still save any sessions. I'll assume you're asking about xsm (since you don't specify). Here's what you'll want to do for the first go around. 1) Edit your ~/.xsession to have something like #!/bin/sh xterm exec xsm 2) startx or login from [x|g|w]dm. 3) In the xterm, start your window manager of choice (flwm ). 3) Now, from the xsm window, select the client list and add your window manager and any other programs you want to start at login. Save it with some name. 4) Logout using the xsm Shutdown (very important). 5) Next time you startx, you should be prompted for the session to load. If all goes well, you might want to remove the xterm from your ~/.xsession. 6) Create new and entirely different session by editing the client list of the current session and saving it with a *different* name. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Gateway settings
In a small office network of five NT machines and one Linux box, what should the gateway be set to? The IP block is 198.168.1.x, the netmask is 255.255.255.0 and the WINS/DHCP server is on 192.168.1.10 All the NT machines function well with no gateway setting, but the Linux box demands one. Chris Mason Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 USA Fax (561) 382-7771 Take a virtual tour of the island http://net.ai/ The Anguilla Guide Find out more about NetConcepts www.netconcepts.ai bwz*mq
END Key in Emacs (only in Xterm)
Hello, Sorry for sending this message again and sorry for sending to devel (I don't know if I should). I really need your help, I tried everything I know and I can't make my Emacs work with END key, when it is in Xterm. - All programs have right key configuration - Emacs in console or X works fine - I renamed .emacs in order to not be read and it didn't work - If I change my XTERM variable from xterm to linux when I am in Xterm, Emacs works with END key - Oh, my END key beeps when I press it in Emacs (in Xterm) Any idea? This started happening from sometime, when I upgraded my potato to the lastest version at that time. I do have now the lastest version of potato. Thank you in advance, -- Rodrigo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Science undergraduate student - University of Sao Paulo I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. -- Isaac Asimov
Re: Kernel panic: No init found.
Nope, it is an Intel CPU. On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 09:58:58PM -0800, Bill Alexander wrote: Bob == Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bob --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bob I just compiled a new 2.2.14 kernel after doing a new potato Bob install and got the message: Bob Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to Bob kernel. Bob Does anyone know what is causing this? The 2.2.14-compact Bob kernel installed from the boot-floppies as part of the Bob installation boots without any problems. /etc/inittab, Bob /etc/rcS.d, etc., all look normal. Bob This is a somewhat minimal system (486DX2/66, 16MB) and I Bob assume I messed something up in my kernel config after Bob comparing it with one which works on my other computer I Bob can't figure out what. I've attached .config in case someone Bob can discover the problem. Bob I also tried installing kernel-image-2.2.14-2 from potato, Bob but it reboots in the middle of loading. Bob -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY (RN2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ Bob DM42nh QRP-L #1985 SOC #77 http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen Bob # Processor type and features Bob CONFIG_M486=y You might try compiling for i386 instead of 486 if you are using a non Intel processor. Bill -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY (RN2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ DM42nh QRP-L #1985 SOC #77http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: ftp problems in masquerading with WIN box
* Bill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Yes, ip_masq_ftp.o is installed in /lib/modules/2.0.36/ipv4/ does this need to be configured? and if so can you please tell me how? You'll need to load the module, you can add ip_masq_ftp to /etc/modules and then run modprobe ip_masq_ftp, that way it will be loaded now and whenever you reboot -- Ashley Clark pgpXHD3OP7aW6.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Kernel panic: No init found.
One thing to check: Make sure that you have ext2 support compiled in the kernel, and not as a module. Paul On 02-Apr-2000 Bob Nielsen wrote: I just compiled a new 2.2.14 kernel after doing a new potato install and got the message: Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. Does anyone know what is causing this? The 2.2.14-compact kernel installed from the boot-floppies as part of the installation boots without any problems. /etc/inittab, /etc/rcS.d, etc., all look normal. This is a somewhat minimal system (486DX2/66, 16MB) and I assume I messed something up in my kernel config after comparing it with one which works on my other computer I can't figure out what. I've attached .config in case someone can discover the problem. I also tried installing kernel-image-2.2.14-2 from potato, but it reboots in the middle of loading. -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY (RN2)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ DM42nh QRP-L #1985 SOC #77http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- E-Mail: Paul Kallstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-2000 Time: 10:30:54 Debian GNU/Linux (Potato) XFMail -- Linuxism: I've run DOOM more in the last few days than I have the last few months. I just love debugging ;-) (Linus Torvalds)
Re: Gateway settings
In a small office network of five NT machines and one Linux box, what should the gateway be set to? to the host with connection to an external network connection, if any. The IP block is 198.168.1.x, the netmask is 255.255.255.0 and the WINS/DHCP server is on 192.168.1.10 All the NT machines function well with no gateway setting, but the Linux box demands one. strange. is there a route like 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 defined? if you need a gateway box (e.g. for internet dial-in), then you have to add defaultgateway-ip 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 hope, that helps a bit. -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
Re: END Key in Emacs (only in Xterm)
Rodrigo Castro writes: If I change my XTERM variable from xterm to linux when I am in Xterm, Emacs works with END key Works fine here with xterm 3.3.5-2 and emacs20 20.5a-2. XTERM is not defined at all, but END works ok in emacs even if I define it as either 'linux' or 'xterm'. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: END Key in Emacs (only in Xterm)
Rodrigo == Rodrigo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, Sorry for sending this message again and sorry for sending to devel (I don't know if I should). I really need your help, I tried everything I know and I can't make my Emacs work with END key, when it is in Xterm. - All programs have right key configuration - Emacs in console or X works fine - I renamed .emacs in order to not be read and it didn't work - If I change my XTERM variable from xterm to linux when I am in Xterm, Emacs works with END key Since this changes things, perhaps there's something different with the termcap/terminfo definitions of xterm? I'm guessing here... Marshal - Oh, my END key beeps when I press it in Emacs (in Xterm) Any idea? This started happening from sometime, when I upgraded my potato to the lastest version at that time. I do have now the lastest version of potato. Thank you in advance, -- Rodrigo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Science undergraduate student - University of Sao Paulo I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. -- Isaac Asimov -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
UPPER to lowercase.
I'm trying to get this bash script working which converts filenames from UPPER to lowercase. for x in *; do mv $x 'echo $x|tr [A-Z][a-z]'; done; It comes back with 'when moving multiple files, last argument must be a directory.' I thought this was a loop, so how come it moves multiple files? Any ideas how to get this working? tnx --hans
Re: UPPER to lowercase.
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 17:13:33 +0200, Hans wrote: for x in *; do mv $x 'echo $x|tr [A-Z][a-z]'; done; Use for x in *; do mv $x `echo $x | tr '[A-Z][a-z]'`; done Note the backticks and the quoting of the square brackets (to prevent them from being interpreted by the shell as globbing patterns). Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Xfree
1. After apt-get upgrade set to ~vincent (slink), I lost my xwindow, only the banner and a bash window appear. Later I lost my logit capability! Does not recognize my password anymore! I can log to console though, w/o problems. What should I do? 2. To get kernel 2.2.14, do what exactly? I did apt-get -f install kernel-source, didn't recognize any such package. Pointed to frozen. Thanks.
Re: UPPER to lowercase.
On Sunday, 02 April 2000 at 17:13, Hans wrote: I'm trying to get this bash script working which converts filenames from UPPER to lowercase. for x in *; do mv $x 'echo $x|tr [A-Z][a-z]'; done; It comes back with 'when moving multiple files, last argument must be a directory.' I thought this was a loop, so how come it moves multiple files? Any ideas how to get this working? tnx --hans two things, I think. First, you need backticks but you are using single quotes. Second, I think you need a space between the two ranges in tr: for x in *; do mv $x `echo $x|tr [A-Z] [a-z]`; done; -Brendan
Re: UPPER to lowercase.
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 05:13:33PM +0200, Hans wrote: I'm trying to get this bash script working which converts filenames from UPPER to lowercase. for x in *; do mv $x 'echo $x|tr [A-Z][a-z]'; done; wrong kind of quotes: #! /bin/sh for x in * do mv $x `echo $x | tr 'A-Z' 'a-z'` done is what i have used in the past. the single ' quote causes the EXACT string to be passed to mv, no $x variables are expanded etc. It comes back with 'when moving multiple files, last argument must be a directory.' I thought this was a loop, so how come it moves multiple files? Any ideas how to get this working? tnx --hans -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgp0cqCK09Afy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: UPPER to lowercase.
Hans writes: for x in *; do mv $x 'echo $x|tr [A-Z][a-z]'; done; ... Any ideas how to get this working? Use the right kind of single quotes and seperate the arguments to tr with a space. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: UPPER to lowercase.
Hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get this bash script working which converts filenames from UPPER to lowercase. for x in *; do mv $x 'echo $x|tr [A-Z][a-z]'; done; It comes back with 'when moving multiple files, last argument must be a directory.' I thought this was a loop, so how come it moves multiple files? People have already suggested variants on this: for x in *; do mv $x `echo $x | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'`; done You could also install the mmv package and try this instead: mmv '*' '#l1' ... or this: mmv \* \#l1 ... depending on what quoting style you prefer. Using backquotes allows you to do more general transformations, though. You might also try rename, which comes with the perl-5.005 package. HTH, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XFMail Problem
Hi, I solved the problem to connect to my IMAP server. When I connect to it I can create folders and copy messages to them. But when I close XFMail and connect again to the server there are only the system folders (INBOX and trash) but noone of my created folders. On the remote machine I installed imap package on potato. Did anyone have an idea what could be the problem? Thanks. Sven -- Please reply only to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Date: 02-Apr-2000 Time: 17:57:06 --
Re: neomagic
Radim Gelner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: concerning a NeoMagic cards, I would like to share my own observations. I own a Siemens Scenic Mobile 510 AGP notebook, that is equipped with video+sound combo called NeoMagic 256 AV. This card is not very well supported by the Linux as of time because the manufacturer does not release any specs. I think this is not true (any longer). Neomagic has released specs to Precision Insight, Inc who have implemented the appropriate drivers for XFree86. AFAICT these drivers are now part of XFree86 4.0. The Scenic 510 is explicitly listed as supported at ftp://ftp.precisioninsight.com/pub/pi/XFCom/README.neomagic Gunnar
Re: Switching to console makes X run amok
Jan == Jan Ulrich Hasecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jan Hi! It is a minor problem, because I very seldom use the Jan console, but then it is annoying. When I switch from X to Jan console via Ctrl-Alt-F1 I cannot switch back with Jan Ctrl-Alt-F7. Hitting C-A-F7 the screen remains black an the Jan Keyboard is dead. It is only possible to log in remotely and Jan kill the xserver. When you are in console mode, try Alt-F7 to get back to X. Bill
Potato and daylight Savings time
Has anyone else noticed that Potato has not got the word that it now Standard time not Daylight Saving time? Or did I miss an update this morning? -- Reference Manual: Object that raises the monitor to eye level. Also used to compensate for that short table leg. ___
Re: Potato and daylight Savings time
Wayne Topa wrote: Has anyone else noticed that Potato has not got the word that it now Standard time not Daylight Saving time? You got it backwards: the change in spring is from standard time to daylight-saving time. http://cnn.com/2000/US/04/02/daylight.time/index.html And it seems that potato did a fine job of changing. -- Brian Kimball
Re: END Key in Emacs (only in Xterm)
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 11:14:16AM -0400, Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong wrote: Rodrigo == Rodrigo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, Sorry for sending this message again and sorry for sending to devel (I don't know if I should). I really need your help, I tried everything I know and I can't make my Emacs work with END key, when it is in Xterm. - All programs have right key configuration - Emacs in console or X works fine - I renamed .emacs in order to not be read and it didn't work - If I change my XTERM variable from xterm to linux when I am in Xterm, Emacs works with END key Since this changes things, perhaps there's something different with the termcap/terminfo definitions of xterm? I'm guessing here... Any idea of what I can do in order to solve it? I reinstalled ncurses-bin 5.0-6 and ncurses-term 5.0-6 but it didn't solve. Oh, I have the lastest version (in potato) of XFree installed. []'s -- Rodrigo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Science undergraduate student - University of Sao Paulo I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. -- Isaac Asimov
NIS issues
I keep getting mail on some slink machines from cron jobs, e.g. the test -f /proc/modules /sbin/rmmod -a one. They contain the single line: yp_all: clnt_call: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection reset by peer Anyone know what this signifies, how NIS gets involved in such a simple cronjob, and what I can do about it?
Unusual Lilo LI problem
I've recently install a new potato system that's been working well for a couple of weeks. Yesterday I compiled a custom kernel (2.2.14) (installed using make-kpkg), and now I can't boot my Linux drive. I CAN boot using the rescue floppy, and everything works fine. Normally the LI problem was easily fixed by rerunning lilo, but that doesn't seem to be working. This type of setup worked for a year and a half on my old system. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be grateful. I've been dual booting Win95 and potato on a SCSI disc with BootMagic. /dev/sda1 is my windows partition, /dev/sda2 is my Linux partition. I do have a tiny partition for the boot manager. I've tried uninstalling lilo with lilo -u and using it with and without the linear option in my conf. I have an older IDE drive on /dev/hda1, but I don't see how that would cause a problem. here's my lilo.conf boot=/dev/sda2 root=/dev/sda2 linear (tried it without this also) install=/boot/boot.b delay=20 map=/boot/map image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-orig label=Linux-orig read-only Actually, I got the L01 01 01 01 problem first, but this is where I am now. -- Marc http://www.matwreck.org/marc
Re: ipmasq and howto
From: Oswald Buddenhagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Now I'm trying to figure out what's made the difference -- why it is that previously I was seeing specific entries with 'ipchains -M -L' and now I'm not...possibly something's been updated, dunno; as long as things keep working, I'm planning not to worry about it too much. RTFM!!! (I did, thank you; many times -- the man pages, the HOW-TO pages, and everything I could find, short of daring to ask anyone who might react by belching forth, RTFM!!!) man ipchains clearly states: -M, --masquerading This option allows viewing of the currently mas queraded connections (in conjuction with the -L option) or to set the kernel masqerading parameters (with the -S option). The emphasis lies on currently*! That is, only if a masqueraded host hast open connections, something will show up! Hmm; the actual emphasis lies on connections which are currently masqueraded. The word open was filled-in for you by your already-existing understanding of what's going on; it's not present in the text I was poring over and that you've quoted. My understanding had reached this far: Routes exist when no traffic is moving on them; therefore 'currently masqueraded connections' could mean 'those pathways I've indicated in a masquerading rule, whether there's traffic on them right now or not'. Thank you for helping clarify the distinction. -- Jeff -- http://www.wellnow.com There's nothing left in the world to prove. All that's worth doing is to love one another, using whatever means are available to serve.
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Re: fresh compile, unresolved symbols complaints
- message from George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] - How did you install your kernel? Did you use make-kpkg to make a kernel-image package and install that or did you try to install it by hand? make mrproper, make menuconfig... like that. If you installed by hand, is the new kernel the same version as the old kernel? Yes. If so, did you possibly forget to move the old modules dir out of the way before installing the new modules? If you compiled some things into the kernel that used to be modules, modutils may still be trying to load the module and seeing the old module that was not built with the new kernel, you may be getting all kinds of unresolved symbols. (Ah so.) Didn't forget, George; but never knew to do it. :-) make modules doesn't cover it, then...? Those are just guesses but you need to make sure that the new kernel, modules, and system map are all in the right places. make-kpkg does this for you so I suggest at least look into using it to build kernel packages for Debian. Thanks, George, that's very helpful. Armed with that info, I'll take another run at it sometime this week. All the best, -- Jeff -- http://www.wellnow.com There's nothing left in the world to prove. All that's worth doing is to love one another, using whatever means are available to serve.
Re: UPPER to lowercase.
Thanks guys. I indeed got the quotes wrong and also the space in between the two arguments. This worked fine: for x in *; do mv $x `echo $x | tr [A-Z] [a-z]`; done Another lesson learnt: watch `em quotes. Using mmv is fine, but my purpose is to learn some plain shell scripting. I'm slowly working my way through man bash now, using mcedit as editor cause of the color coding. Cheerio, --hans At 05:13 PM 4/2/00 +0200, Hans wrote: I'm trying to get this bash script working which converts filenames from UPPER to lowercase. for x in *; do mv $x 'echo $x|tr [A-Z][a-z]'; done; It comes back with 'when moving multiple files, last argument must be a directory.' I thought this was a loop, so how come it moves multiple files? Any ideas how to get this working? tnx --hans -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Backspace acts like delete in X
I've heard that this was a commom Debian problem but Ive never experienced it before. When in X my backspace key deletes to the right of the cursor instead of the left. In console or in an xterm it's normal. I can't seem to find anything to edit in /etc/X11/XF86Config to change this. Any ideas (don't tell me to run xf86config again I'd rather just know where the setting it) ~Sam Morales
Re: are there other file managers besides gmc?
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 04:39:05AM +, John Carline wrote: Personally I like fvwm95. It's very configurable and on my box uses less memory than any other. But since we each our own style, go to the following link and pick one you like. www.PLIG.org/xwinman He asked a file manager, not a window manager. :) -- | Christian Surchi | www.firenze.linux.it/~csurchi| www. | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | gnu. | | FLUG: www.firenze.linux.it | Debian GNU/Linux: www.debian.org | org | stu Stupid nick highlighting stu Whenever someone starts with stupid it highlights the nick. Hmm. -- #Debian
Re: are there other file managers besides gmc?
I still mostly use mc in an xterm, although I recently just discovered filerunner which seems excellent so far. I also like tkdesk for some purposes as the other post mentioned. It's not like filerunner is new either. One of the really good/bad things about Debian is the sheer quantity of packages available. A really nice program can in there hiding, like filerunner for me, and we never realize it until we stumble across it, or someone else mentions it. Tom john smith wrote: hello, I would like to know what other file managers are available besides gmc..maybe there is something better out there? __
Set user ID on execution
Greetings, Following my problem with su earlier last week, I figured I'd better get a refresher on permissions before I really get myself in trouble. I guess I never knew what the s was for in: -rwsr-xr-x I checked out `info chmod' and various other places, including a few books I have and came up empty on what the plain-english meaning of `4000 Set user ID on execution' means. I checked the archives and only came up with answers to the same question that consisted solely of s - Set user ID or group ID on execution, but NOT what difference this makes. Can anyone explain this to me in plain english? Like, what the difference is between chmod 4750 and chmod 750 -- and how it effects the files' execution? All I have known is that for binaries I want to restrict access to, I have always chgrp special_group special_files and chmod 4750 special_files. My fingers are obviously dangerous things.. Thanks, Brian
Re: ipmasq and howto
Hmm; the actual emphasis lies on connections which are currently masqueraded. The word open was filled-in for you by your already-existing understanding of what's going on; it's not present in the text I was poring over and that you've quoted. My understanding had reached this far: Routes exist when no traffic is moving on them; therefore 'currently masqueraded connections' could mean 'those pathways I've indicated in a masquerading rule, whether there's traffic on them right now or not'. a connection is something open, it needs (at least) two (active) ends. otherwise it is only a route. a masq rule is (kind of) a route. Thank you for helping clarify the distinction. no problem. sorry for the harsh tone. maybe, i assumed too much knowledge ... -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
Re: Unusual Lilo LI problem
On Sun, 2 Apr 2000, Marc Moody wrote: I've recently install a new potato system that's been working well for a couple of weeks. Yesterday I compiled a custom kernel (2.2.14) (installed using make-kpkg), and now I can't boot my Linux drive. I CAN boot using the rescue floppy, and everything works fine. Normally the LI problem was easily fixed by rerunning lilo, but that doesn't seem to be working. This type of setup worked for a year and a half on my old system. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be grateful. I've been dual booting Win95 and potato on a SCSI disc with BootMagic. /dev/sda1 is my windows partition, /dev/sda2 is my Linux partition. I do have a tiny partition for the boot manager. I've tried uninstalling lilo with lilo -u and using it with and without the linear option in my conf. I have an older IDE drive on /dev/hda1, but I don't see how that would cause a problem. the boot manager is probably your problem. i know a situation with the nt-bootmanager: it does not use the real boot sector to boot a partition, but a copy stored in a file. thus, if you recompile your kernel and re-run lilo, lilo will update the real boot sector, but the boot manager will not realize it and will still run the old code stored in the image-file. the old code of course has an invalid (old) map ... the solution (for nt - i don't know bootmagic): dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/c/bootsek.lin count=1 where /c is the mount-point of a fat-partition, where the nt-bootloader resides. bootsek.lin is an arbitrary name choosen for the image file (you would have to use the one, that already exists). i hope, that this technique is also true for bootmagic. good luck! PS (to everybody): *please* make line-breaks ... it makes quoting so much easier ... -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
Re: END Key in Emacs (only in Xterm)
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 10:48:24AM -0300, Rodrigo Castro wrote: Sorry for sending this message again and sorry for sending to devel (I don't know if I should). I really need your help, I tried everything I know and I can't make my Emacs work with END key, when it is in Xterm. If you're using xterm 3.3.6-6, please be sure and read the Debian X FAQ. There is a section about debugging key binding problems. file:/usr/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz -- G. Branden Robinson| The greatest productive force is human Debian GNU/Linux | selfishness. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Robert Heinlein roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpykJAPiO6pC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PASS MCSE
On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 12:11:36AM +0800, PASS MCSE wrote: Hi this email is talking about how to pass mcse with least effort,if you want know more Yeah, i'm sure a large number of Debian users will want a MCSE... That'll be $1999, please pay at the first window. Thank you, don't come again. -- finger for GPG public key.
Re: Set user ID on execution
Can anyone explain this to me in plain english? Like, what the difference is between chmod 4750 and chmod 750 -- and how it effects the files' execution? every user has an id, as you probably know. if the file is executed normally (ie, permissions are 750), then the program runs with the user id of the user, who started it, and thus has the permissions to do the things, that the runner is able to do. if the set-uid bit is set (ie, 4750), then the program's user id will be set to the id of the user, who owns the file. so if the program file is owned by root and it is set-uid, then the program will get root permissions - no with regard to that, by whom it is executed. that's the reason, why set-uid programs have to be done with special care: they have potentially very much power. basically the same applies to set-gid programs (ie, 2750), but here it is the group-id, which is set upon execution. there are some details with real and effective user id-s, but that won't interest you much. My fingers are obviously dangerous things.. yes - but that applies to all of us ... :-) regards -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
Re: Backspace acts like delete in X
sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard that this was a commom Debian problem but Ive never experienced it before. When in X my backspace key deletes to the right of the cursor instead of the left. In console or in an xterm it's normal. I can't seem to find anything to edit in /etc/X11/XF86Config to change this. Any ideas (don't tell me to run xf86config again I'd rather just know where the setting it) Read /usr/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz, searching for backspace. When I experienced this problem it was partly because I was unnecessarily running xmodmap (don't do this unless you really know your way around) and partly because I didn't realize that adding my own VT100.Translations entry in ~/.Xresources *overrides* the setting in /etc/X11/Xresources/xterm, rather than adding to it. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lots of foreign dwww files
(Potato) I'm getting a lot of these when installing/updating packages: warning: skipping foreign dwww file /usr/lib/menu/doc-base-gentoo at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 276. Something's wrong, but I don't know what! -- Jesse Jacobsen, Pastor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grace Lutheran Church (ELS) http://www.jvlnet.com/~jjacobsen/ Madison, Wisconsin GnuPG public key ID: 2E3EBF13
Re: fresh compile, unresolved symbols complaints
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 03:33:21PM -0400, Jeff Gordon wrote: - message from George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] - If so, did you possibly forget to move the old modules dir out of the way before installing the new modules? If you compiled some things into the kernel that used to be modules, modutils may still be trying to load the module and seeing the old module that was not built with the new kernel, you may be getting all kinds of unresolved symbols. (Ah so.) Didn't forget, George; but never knew to do it. :-) make modules doesn't cover it, then...? If you use make-kpkg, the resulting debian kernel-image package will warn you about exactly this and ask you if you want to abort the installation to let you move it safely out of the way. Debian packagers can make more informed decisions about the filesystem arrangement than the kernel developers and this will always be the case, so use the smart tools provided with debian to ease the brain strain. Unless you're doing strange things to modify your kernel, I'd vote for make-kpkg. -- Regards, Paul
Re: Set user ID on execution
Oswald Buddenhagen said: Can anyone explain this to me in plain english? Like, what the difference is between chmod 4750 and chmod 750 -- and how it effects the files' execution? every user has an id, as you probably know. if the file is executed normally (ie, permissions are 750), then the program runs with the user id of the user, who started it, and thus has the permissions to do the things, that the runner is able to do. if the set-uid bit is set (ie, 4750), then the program's user id will be set to the id of the user, who owns the file. so if the program file is owned by root and it is set-uid, then the program will get root permissions - no with regard to that, by whom it is executed. that's the reason, why set-uid programs have to be done with special care: they have potentially very much power. OK, I understand the what you've said above, but give me an example. I have seen what happens when /bin/su is not setuid, but WHY does it have to be like that, and WHY does it do what it does when it's not setuid? I've seen a lot of other binaries in this predicament: [root- /bin]% ls -l | grep rws -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root20164 Apr 17 1999 login -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root52788 Apr 17 1999 mount -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root14804 Apr 7 1999 ping -rwsr-x--- 1 root wheel 13208 Apr 13 1999 su -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root26508 Apr 17 1999 umount Many more, of course.. Brian
sfm: unrecognized prefix
does anyone use sfm (graphical file manager) out there? for a while now it hasn't been working. i don't think any active development is taking place either. i get this error when i run it: unrecognized prefix i've grep'd through the source and it has to do w/ the colors. is this related to some setting or system behavior (which may have changed) or something else? using 1.0.6-2 on an unstable (woody) box. thanks in advance, herbert
