Screen Saver

2000-05-19 Thread Jay Kelly
If my monitor goes black,(i.e. screen saver I think) how do I turn that off.
The monitor doesnt shut off just goes blank. Sounds like the screen saver
but I have no idea where to check..



TZ / time zones

2000-05-19 Thread w trillich
hmm.

Lehel Bernadt wrote:
> 
> On 18-May-2000 Nick wrote:
> > i am having a difficult time changing from CEST to PDT/PST
> 
> You have to run tzconfig.

i have two tz* commands available, and they both allow
selecting which continent, which country, and which locale
in that country (if applicable).

my TZ has been 'CST6CDT' from slink; i've upgraded to potato
and these tzconfig/tzselect programs want to set TZ to
'America/Chicago'. i missed the docs on this, apparently.

is that a new standard for specifying timezones, or is it
just for newbies?

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RE: APM Disable

2000-05-19 Thread Jay Kelly
It look like the monitor doesnt shutoff, the led on the front of the monitor
doesnt even change. I think whats happening is maybe a screen saver that
black is coming on. How do I see if thats the case.

-Original Message-
From: Adam Shand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 1:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Jay Kelly; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: APM Disable



> According to the only package I found on Debian's site concerning APM
> (apmd): The Debian default kernel does *not* contain APM support,
> because it causes problems on some computers.

as of a few kernels ago in potato (at least a few months ago but i can't
remember when) apm support *is* enabled but you have to turn it on with an
option in your lilo.conf.  i know this works cause i use it all the time on
my laptop.  to get apm add this to your lilo.conf (run lilo) and reboot:

append="apm=on"

> I don't remember how to change the screen saver settings, but a quick
> search of the Debian Mail archives should turn up something for you, as
> that's discussed fairly regularly on this list.

check out the command xset.  i believe that is what you want.

adam.


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cdrecord and cdrdao

2000-05-19 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer
Anyone know why cdrecord recognizes -dev=0,3,0
and cdrdao does not recognize --device 0,3,0?

I don't have a link to /dev/cdrecorder

Lance



Re: Stuck...

2000-05-19 Thread w trillich
> Brian Hazelwood wrote:
> 
> Good Morning,
> 
> I new to Linux and intalling debian 2.1 for the first time.  I have
> not had any problems untill this point.  After I am prompted for my
> "debian login" and password, I recieve the date, time and copywrite
> info.  However after this I recieve a line  "debian:~#" with the
> curser waiting for a reply.  I have typed in numerous characters and
> numbers to no avail.

as others have said, that's the command prompt. to have "not had
any problems until this point" is saying that you're just getting
started!

> Please Help!

if you say 'to no avail' to mean 'nothing happens'
then maybe your keyboard isn't configured correctly...?

is that the case? (and how are you sending us email then--from
another machine?)

if not, try 'help' or 'man ls' or 'startx'...



Re: [humor] opensource.microsoft.com

2000-05-19 Thread w trillich
# dnsquery microsoft.org
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63912
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;;  microsoft.org, type = ANY, class = IN
microsoft.org.  2D IN NSDNS4.CP.MSFT.NET.
microsoft.org.  2D IN NSDNS5.CP.MSFT.NET.
microsoft.org.  2D IN NSDNS4.CP.MSFT.NET.
microsoft.org.  2D IN NSDNS5.CP.MSFT.NET.
DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET.   2D IN A 207.46.138.11
DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET.   2D IN A 207.46.138.12

and is that a good thing?

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[OT] Re: More headaches with mailagent config

2000-05-19 Thread Brad
For some reason i keep reading this subject line as "malignant
config"... Probably a fitting epithet when things aren't working ;)


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Re: ISDN and Sprint

2000-05-19 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 09:41 PM 5/19/00 -0400, Brian Schramm wrote:
>I live in a Sprint controled area.  

How does Sprint "control" an area for ISDN?

>They are offering a good deal on
>ISDN for my area but I cannot find out if Linux can handle the ISDN
>modem that they are offering with the service.  The modem is:
>
>Eicon Diva t/a modem
>
>I am planing on setting the link up on a 486 running debian striped to
>use as a firewall and email server to my network.  I will be using my
>other machines to run programs and GUI's on.  
>
>1. is this a standard modem?

Probably not. ISDN "modems" aren't really modems; everyone just calls them
that. They are CPE (customer-premises equipment specific) to ISDN.

>2. can I use another modem?  Like an internal?

Ask Sprint. Seriously. ISDN is picky; there is no way to know what will work
with a particular ISDN service except by asking the provider. However, if
you mean "will a standard 56K modem work?", the answer is no. Real modems
work on analog lines; the "D" in "ISDN" stands for Digital.

>3. Telco equipment can allways be more expencive then nessasary, can I
>buy this modem from another source?
>4. Where can I find info on using this type of modem on Linux?

Well ... just on a hunch, I typed "www.encom.com" into my Web browser, and
found a relevant-looking home page. On it is a clickable graphic that reads
"Eicon supports Linux - Click for more". You might try that for answers to
the above two questions.

>5. Any gotas on running a serial device for a 128K connection?

Sorry, but I don't understand this question.

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Re: Kernel Compile error: What am I missing?

2000-05-19 Thread Russell Hires
Oops...I've got either a 2.2.10, 2.2.12, and 2.2.14. Tried em all. 

I've got the binutils and gcc versions required in Documentation/Changes
( I even checked using the commands listed in that file) 

If the file builds just fine on your computer...has the file changed
between kernel versions? Has it changed at all in years? Would something
else have changed? Naturally, I must be missing something. I just wish I
knew what. ugh.

Is there a script that can tell what's there and what isn't and report
back if anything is missing?

Thanks!

Russell




Russell wrote:
>Here's the message I get:
>
>Assembler Messages:
>Bindec.S :487 
>/usr/src/linux/arch/m68k/fpsp040
>[Bindec.o] error 1
>value of -512 too large for field of 1 bytes at 511
>
>I asked the people on the m68k list, and they didn't know. I am sure I'm
>missing some vital library or other piece of code in the compile
process, I
>just can't figure out what it could be. 
>
>Can anyone help?

Sorry, that file builds just fine on my Amiga, kernel 2.0.36. What kernel
version are you building, with what gcc and binutils versions?

Frank



Re: Hard Drive Upgrade

2000-05-19 Thread Daniel J. Kruszyna
On 19 May 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> 
>  Had you run `lilo' on the new drive before you tried to reboot?  If
>  not, then what it was is that the kernel isn't at the same block
>  address as it was on the other disk...

Yes, I followed the instructions at
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html which does
explain how to run lilo on the second disk and make it look like it is the
first one.  I think LILO did find the kernel, because I did get the
Loading Linux.. message, but the boot never got to the Uncompressing
Linux stage.

-- Daniel Kruszyna




Re: UPS wars: APC vs Tripplite?

2000-05-19 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Jaye" == Jaye Inabnit ke6sls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jaye> I tried them both. I was happier with Triplite... Tho, it too was 
returned. I
Jaye> need to leave my box here, some times for days unattended. I have a 
huge
Jaye> set of backup batteries that I run all my radio gear from.. I decided 
there
Jaye> had to be a product that would use MY batteries and not some little 
dinkster
Jaye> battery that will die in 30 minutes.

Jaye> So far tho, I haven't found a solution other then using a "modified 
sinewave"
Jaye> which can get pretty noisy. For true sine wave, I did find a product 
for the
Jaye> "off grid" folks with a fairly fast optional relay.  Tho, they 
haven't replied
Jaye> to my tech request.

 What about one of those things that's for a car cigarette lighter,
 that has power outlets on it for things like laptops and tv sets?

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Re: making potato cds

2000-05-19 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Zachary" == Zachary Hartley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Zachary> does anyone know how to make potato cds?
Zachary> i found .raw files at debian.bilow.com
Zachary> i was thinking i could put them on a cd to install potato
Zachary> what do i need to do to make them into a installable cd?

 Grab `gcombust'.  It's the best one, I think.

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Re: emacs ignores certain commands in .emacs

2000-05-19 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Johann" == Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Johann> I like emacs and prefer it to xemacs because of xemac's delete-key 
and
Johann> backspace key behaviour which differs between the console and X
Johann> environments. But I have a few problems which I do not understand.

 `M-x customize-apropos delete'.  If you can't fix it that way, then
 try `f1 k', press the offending key, find out what it's called, and
 rebind it in the `term-setup-hook'.  Also see my xhypermap.m4 and
 ext-fkeymap.el in http://master.debian.org/~karlheg/XE-Lisp>.

8<->8
(add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill)
(add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'iso-accents-mode)

;; For iso-8859-1 keyboarding (German, Spanish, French, etc.)
(require 'x-compose)
(define-key function-key-map [multi-key] compose-map)
;; Uncomment if you like the binding. éèñ¿¡æß
;; This is the same key you'd use on the console with the
;; x?hypermap.m4 keymap installed.
;; (define-key function-key-map [(control ?.)] compose-map)

(add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook 'turn-on-reftex)   ; with AUCTeX LaTeX mode
(add-hook 'latex-mode-hook 'turn-on-reftex)   ; with Emacs latex mode

(gnuserv-start)

(add-hook 'python-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock)
8<->8

 Don't set the font lock keywords to the python ones.  Font lock mode
 will do that for you when you visit a Python program.

 Use `add-hook' rather than `setq' to get a hook function into a hook
 list variable.

 If you do `M-x load-library reftex', then `M-x customize-group
 reftex', I think you'll find that it's a lot simpler than editting
 .emacs.

 Did you know about `M-x customize-apropos[Tab][Tab]' ?

 Many of the settings you want are on the menubar (eg: global font
 lock mode).  Use the name of the item in the menubar as a hint as to
 what variable you need to set via the `M-x customize' interface.

Johann> When I start xemacs, everything seems to work.

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Netscape and MS Intellimouse

2000-05-19 Thread Pedro I. Sanchez
Hello,

Netscape used to have support for the Intellimouse in my Debian 2.1 box.
Now I have a fresh Potato install (new hard drive), only a few days old,
and the old ¨tricks¨ don´t work anymore. So far I have the line

   ZAxisMapping4 5

in my /etc/X11/XF86Config file. I also have some blurb in
/etc/X11/Xresources/netscape that starts like this

!## NETSCAPE
Netscape*drawingArea.translations:  #merge\
: ArmLink()   \n\
: ArmLink()   \n\
~Shift: ActivateLink()  \n\
~Shift: ActivateLink(new-window)  \
DisarmLink()\n\
Shift:  ActivateLink(save-only)  \
DisarmLink()\n\
Shift:  ActivateLink(save-only)  \
DisarmLink()\n\
:   DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\

..

I also installed the imwheel package. However, netscape (4.7.2) simply
ignores my mouse´s wheel. What am I missing?

Thank you,

-- 
Pedro



Re: Trying to configure X

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Rademaker
If you don't have the server installed it's quite normal you won't get it
to work ;))

Just install the server (using either dselect or apt-get, try apt-get
install ) and all should woprk perfectly.

Ron Rademaker

---Some people say linux is difficult, they just don't know what they
---are talking about, linux is extremely userfriedly, it's just a bit
---more picky about it's users;))

On Fri, 19 May 2000, Ron Stordahl wrote:

> Now I see why exec of XF86_SVGA failedthe file does not exist in
> /usr/bin/X11.
> 
> This appears to be some sort of an install errorI was never asked to
> download that file and put it there, this should have happened automatically
> I would think when I choose to do a 'simple' install of an X Window system.
> 
> So is there some error in the install system or did I do something wrong?
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ron Stordahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Ron Rademaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ron Stordahl"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Debian User List" 
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Trying to configure X
> 
> 
> > I believe I have made all the correct selections using xf86config, but
> after
> > that when I try startx here is what happens:
> >
> > X:  exec of /usr/bin/X11XF86_SVGA failed
> > _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> > giving up
> > xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server
> > xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.
> >
> > I am stuck at that point.  Any ideas???
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Ron Rademaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Ron Stordahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Debian User List" 
> > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 6:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: Trying to configure X
> >
> >
> > > /dev/psaux
> > >
> > > That's the mouse device you want (/dev/mouse might be a symlink to this
> > > check woth ls -l /dev/mouse).
> > >
> > > The server for the card should definately be XF86_SVGA, you should be a
> > > ware that there are diferences between the X server ad the driver for
> your
> > > videocard!
> > >
> > > Ron Rademaker
> > >
> > > On Fri, 19 May 2000, Ron Stordahl wrote:
> > >
> > > > Questions arising during xf86config:
> > > >
> > > > Mouse--I have a 3 button PS/2 mouse so I select "4 PS/2 Mouse".  Since
> > it
> > > > has 3 buttons I choose not to emulate 3 buttons.  So good so far, but
> > now it
> > > > asks for the full device name.  I have no idea.  It suggests
> /dev/tty00
> > > > which seems unlikely.  Just pressing enter will default to /dev/mouse.
> > This
> > > > seems reasonable, but my recollection is that a response to this
> > question
> > > > previously said I need to enter /dev/psaux.I have looked through
> the
> > > > install doc and it does not answer this question.
> > > >
> > > > Selection of the card.  I have a Jaton Video-67pro PCI which is not
> > listed,
> > > > however the chip on the card says Trident 3DImage975 which is in the
> > table
> > > > showing the driver is the "3dimage975".  Looks good, so I select that
> > which
> > > > is number 651.
> > > >
> > > > Now I am at the point which I must determine which server to run.  My
> > > > choices are:
> > > >
> > > > 1 XF86_Mono
> > > > 2 XF86_VGA16
> > > > 3 XF86-SVGA
> > > > 4 The accelerated servers.
> > > > 5 "Choose the server from the card definition, XF86_SVGA"
> > > >
> > > > None of these seem to be good choices, since mine appears to be
> > "3dimage975"
> > > > I would pick XF86_SVGA, which appears in the list after the card
> > definitions
> > > > for many many cards, but since for my card it explicitly noted
> > "3dimage975"
> > > > it would not seem to be correct to pick XF86_SVGA.  I should note that
> > in a
> > > > failed configuration prior to this e-mail I did just that, and it
> didn't
> > > > work.
> > > >
> > > > So what do to?
> > > >
> > > > Ron
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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ISDN and Sprint

2000-05-19 Thread Brian Schramm
I live in a Sprint controled area.  They are offering a good deal on
ISDN for my area but I cannot find out if Linux can handle the ISDN
modem that they are offering with the service.  The modem is:

Eicon Diva t/a modem

I am planing on setting the link up on a 486 running debian striped to
use as a firewall and email server to my network.  I will be using my
other machines to run programs and GUI's on.  

1.  is this a standard modem?
2.  can I use another modem?  Like an internal?
3.  Telco equipment can allways be more expencive then nessasary, can I
buy this modem from another source?
4.  Where can I find info on using this type of modem on Linux?
5.  Any gotas on running a serial device for a 128K connection?

Thanks in advance for helping.


-- 
Brian Schramm
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.linuxexpert.org



Re: Deb. 2.2 setting up loopback/route

2000-05-19 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Malte" == Malte Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Malte> i've installed a frozen 2.2 debian and encountered some problems 
setting
Malte> up route & network loopback. First I found that a "nslookup 
localhost" wasn't
Malte> working. Since no network is attached to the PC i understood that i 
have to
Malte> configure loopback/route. 
Malte> I configured the loopback device using 
>> ifconfig -lo 127.0.0.1 

 Have a look in "/etc/network/interfaces" and at `man ifup'.  Look at
 your "/etc/hosts" and make sure there's an entry for localhost also.

Malte> ifconfig told me LOOPBACK DEVICE UP (or so) and a >ping
Malte> 127.0.0.1 worked

Malte> I think that i have to configure route as well and tried a 
>> route add -net 127.0.0.0 or >route add -net 127.0.0.1
Malte> and got the errormsg SIODTTR (something like it)
Malte> A cat /proc/net/route showed me no routing at all. 

Malte> System is a Debian 2.2 frozen with a 2.2.14 homebrew Kernel i.e. not 
the
Malte> standard 2.2.15 Kernel any more. Will update to 2.2.15 again soon.

 You don't have to add a route for the lo interface anymore - it's
 implicit.

Malte> Could anybody tell me: Where is my mistake?

 No major mistakes.  You came to the right place for help.

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Re: apt-get, upgrade, /var/cache/apt/archives

2000-05-19 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom

 I also wonder if you still have a list of the selections held by
 `dpkg' in that machine?

 `dpkg --get-selections'

 `dpkg --set-selections < dpkg-selections'

 `apt-get dselect-upgrade'

> "Antonio" == Antonio Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Antonio> I haven't found any package called dpkg-scanpackages. I searched 
the deb
Antonio> site, can't find it. can you be more explicit?
Antonio> Thanks

% dpkg --search dpkg-scanpackages
diversion by dpkg-multicd from: /usr/bin/dpkg-scanpackages
diversion by dpkg-multicd to: /usr/bin/dpkg-scanpackages.dpkg
dpkg-dev, dpkg-multicd: /usr/bin/dpkg-scanpackages
dpkg-dev: /usr/share/man/man8/dpkg-scanpackages.8.gz
diversion by dpkg-multicd from: /usr/bin/dpkg-scanpackages
diversion by dpkg-multicd to: /usr/bin/dpkg-scanpackages.dpkg
diversion by dpkg-multicd from: /usr/man/man8/dpkg-scanpackages.8.gz
diversion by dpkg-multicd to: /usr/man/man8/dpkg-scanpackages.dpkg.8.gz
dpkg-multicd: /usr/man/man8/dpkg-scanpackages.8.gz
diversion by dpkg-multicd from: /usr/man/man8/dpkg-scanpackages.8.gz
diversion by dpkg-multicd to: /usr/man/man8/dpkg-scanpackages.dpkg.8.gz


 Here's the script I run to update the Packages files in my partial
 mirror.  The mirror is in /home/ftp/pub/mirrors/debian, and this
 script is run with it's PWD in /home/ftp/pub/mirrors.  The
 debian-non-US mirror is a sibling of the debian mirror.

 
#!/bin/sh
pushd debian
dpkg-scanpackages -m 'Debian GNU/Linux binary-i386' 
dists/potato/main/binary-i386 indices/override.potato.gz > 
dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages
dpkg-scanpackages -m 'Debian GNU/Linux binary-i386' 
dists/potato/contrib/binary-i386 indices/override.potato.contrib.gz > 
dists/potato/contrib/binary-i386/Packages
popd

pushd debian-non-US
dpkg-scanpackages -m 'Debian GNU/Linux binary-i386' 
dists/potato/non-US/main/binary-i386 indices-non-US/override.potato.gz > 
dists/potato/non-US/main/binary-i386/Packages
dpkg-scanpackages -m 'Debian GNU/Linux binary-i386' 
dists/potato/non-US/contrib/binary-i386 
indices-non-US/override.potato.contrib.gz > 
dists/potato/non-US/contrib/binary-i386/Packages
popd

find . -name 'Packages' -exec gzip -f -9 \{\} \;


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Caller ID on Linux

2000-05-19 Thread Brent McMillan
Has anyone heard about software that will tell me if I have incomming
calls and let me pick up the phone and answer the call?
XCallerID and GNUVoice looks promising, but asside from the names, I
can't find much info on either of them.
Bell Canada offers an internet call display for windows, would there be
a something I could do in Linux to get it working?  Other people in my
house are depending on any information you guys can give.  :)

Brent McMillan



Re: Hard Drive Upgrade

2000-05-19 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Daniel" == Daniel J Kruszyna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Daniel> I just recently upgraded the hard drive on my Debian machine (an 
intel box
Daniel> running potato), and while everything copied successfully, I could 
not get
Daniel> the new hard disk to boot.  I then changed my lilo.conf to point to
Daniel> "/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14" instead of the symlink at "/vmlinuz", and
Daniel> everythinig worked fine.  Does anyone know what's going on here?  
How
Daniel> come lilo doesn't recognize the symlink like it did before?  If you
Daniel> any more information, just let me know.  Thanks. 

 Had you run `lilo' on the new drive before you tried to reboot?  If
 not, then what it was is that the kernel isn't at the same block
 address as it was on the other disk...

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Re: Clone of hard drive

2000-05-19 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Jay" == Jay Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jay> Is it possible to clone my linux hard drive to an image or to
Jay> another drive?  This way in the event of hard drive failure I
Jay> can swap drives and be right back up. If it is, how would I
Jay> go about it?

 Don't use `dd' - it won't work well if the two drives are not the
 same size.  Partition and format the new drive using the standard
 tools, then use a `cpio' archive or `cpio' in copythrough mode to
 clone the filesystem.  (RTFM `cpio'.)

 GNU `cp' or the BusyBox `cp' from the _Potato_ `boot-floppies' will
 also work, if you use the `-a' switch and are careful not to try and
 copy `/proc' and other things that shouldn't get copied over.  Don't
 try this with the `boot-floppies' `cp' from before around version
 2.2.8 (iirc) or so - it would flatten the filesystem and would not
 preserve hard links.  (does now though - I saw to that.)

  "make-cpio-archive"
8<>8
#!/bin/bash
find / -print0 |
 grep --invert-match --extended-regexp --null-data \
  --file=/root/make-cpio-archive.exclude-patterns |
 cpio --create --format=crc --null --reset-access-time --block-size=10 |
 gzip --best > /tmp/system-snapshot_$(date +%Y.%m.%d).cpio.crc.gz
8<>8

   "make-cpio-archive.exclude-patterns"
8<>8
^/proc/.*
^/tmp/.*
^/lost+found
^/boot/lost+found
^/var/cache/apache/.*
^/var/cache/apt/.*\.deb
^/var/log/.*\.log
^/var/log/\(amanda\|apache\|gdm\|ksymoops\|mailman\|news\|sendfile\|wu-ftpd\)/.*
^/var/log/\(syslog\|smb\|nmb\|messages\|mail\|lpr\|debug\|dmesg\).*
^/var/lock/\.LCK.*
^/var/run/.*\.pid
^/var/run/\(ndc\|utmp\)
^/var/samba/.*
\.bash_history
\.gnome-errors
.*~
/\.saves-.*
/\.#.*
/\.netscape/cache/.*
8<>8

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Re: Deb. 2.2 setting up loopback/route

2000-05-19 Thread Lindsay Allen


>From /etc/network/interfaces

# We always want the loopback interface. (This is commented out in case
# you're configuring it by hand elsewhere, like in /etc/init.d/network. If
# you're not, you need this line)
#
# iface lo inet loopback

Uncomment that last line and all should be well.

I was bitten by this on a new install and would like to see loopback
included.

Lindsay
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On Fri, 19 May 2000, Malte Schmidt wrote:

> Hello World,
> 
> i've installed a frozen 2.2 debian and encountered some problems setting
> up route & network loopback. First I found that a "nslookup localhost" wasn't
> working. Since no network is attached to the PC i understood that i have to
> configure loopback/route. 
> I configured the loopback device using 
> >ifconfig -lo 127.0.0.1 
> 
> ifconfig told me LOOPBACK DEVICE UP (or so)
> and a >ping 127.0.0.1 worked
> 
> I think that i have to configure route as well and tried a 
> >route add -net 127.0.0.0 or >route add -net 127.0.0.1
> and got the errormsg SIODTTR (something like it)
> A cat /proc/net/route showed me no routing at all. 
> System is a Debian 2.2 frozen with a 2.2.14 homebrew Kernel i.e. not the
> standard 2.2.15 Kernel any more. Will update to 2.2.15 again soon.
> 
> Could anybody tell me: Where is my mistake?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Malte Schmidt
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Re: potato boot floppies and FTP/HTTP install

2000-05-19 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "S" == S Salman Ahmed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

S> I recently tried using Corel Linux and Caldera on this one spare
S> system I have at work just because I had received free copies of those
S> CDs. After trying to get used to these "other" distributions I decided
S> enough was enough and just had to go back to good old Debian.

 8-{)>>

S> I'd like to do a ftp/http install of potato on this system since we have
S> a fast connection at work. How many boot floppies are required to do
S> this kind of ftp/http install ?

 There are several `flavors' of i386 boot floppy sets.  You might want
 to try the `compact' or `idepci' version (see the README in the ftp
 archive).  With `compact', often the NIC driver for your card will be
 built into the kernel, and you'll be able to "netfetch" both the
 drivers and the base system.  Both `compact' and `idepci' are a 3
 disk set - rescue, root, and drivers.  The vanilla kernel is still a
 5 disk set.

S> And secondly, where can I download these potato boot floppies/images
S> from ?

 http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386

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Re: Wakup LAN - Good morning...up and at em

2000-05-19 Thread John Leget
I came across this on freshmeat a bit back maybe its what your looking
for
http://www.doornekamp.demon.nl/wakeonlan/

cheers

Tom Warfield wrote:
> 
> Okay i have a 3COM 905 card with the option of using the WakeUp lan feature.
> My motherboard supports it and it is installed.  Once the computer is turned
> off the light on the card still stays onokay so know im reading about
> some kinda MagicPacket...
> 
> I think i have the stuff setup right for the hardware, its turned on in the
> BIOS...how do i tell the system to Wake UP?   Can you say GOOD MORNING?  :)
> 
> The box im trying to wakup is running Windows 2000, but it will eventualy be
> running debian.  The box that i want to send the WakeUp call is running
> debian.  How can i do this???
> 
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Re: HELP!

2000-05-19 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Mattthew" == Mattthew Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Mattthew> Please tell me how to unsubscribe from all debian lists
Mattthew> (I am now using another account to access emails, and
Mattthew> need to get rid!!)

 Send a message to the the lists's name with -request appended,
 @lists.debian.org with "un" prepended to "subscribe" in the subject,
 and also please formally complain to the listmaster that the web
 interface does not allow un - subscription.

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HELP!

2000-05-19 Thread Mattthew Russell
Please tell me how to unsubscribe from all debian lists (I am now using
another account to access emails, and need to get rid!!)



Re: power saving - A good idea

2000-05-19 Thread Aaron Solochek
The downside is accessing the drive for the first time after that
5minutes.  I was told, and this could be  completely false, that scsi
drives are designed to basically run constantly, while ide drives not.  I
heard this accounts for a lot of the price difference.  Does anyone know
if this has any truth, or if this is completly B.S.?

-Aaron Solochek
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On Fri, 19 May 2000, Chris Mason wrote:

> I lost a hard drive on my firewall machine recently so I looked for ways to
> conserve the drive. I enabled power saving(?) in the BIOS so that the IDE
> spins down after 5 mins of inactivity. As it is the only machine on a lot of
> the time, the HD is rarely used anyway.
> Any downside to this, will it cause problesm? Three days in and the machine
> seems fine.
> 
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Re: Trying to configure X

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Stordahl
Now I see why exec of XF86_SVGA failedthe file does not exist in
/usr/bin/X11.

This appears to be some sort of an install errorI was never asked to
download that file and put it there, this should have happened automatically
I would think when I choose to do a 'simple' install of an X Window system.

So is there some error in the install system or did I do something wrong?

Ron


- Original Message -
From: "Ron Stordahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ron Rademaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ron Stordahl"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Debian User List" 
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Trying to configure X


> I believe I have made all the correct selections using xf86config, but
after
> that when I try startx here is what happens:
>
> X:  exec of /usr/bin/X11XF86_SVGA failed
> _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> giving up
> xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server
> xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.
>
> I am stuck at that point.  Any ideas???
>
> Ron
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ron Rademaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Ron Stordahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Debian User List" 
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 6:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Trying to configure X
>
>
> > /dev/psaux
> >
> > That's the mouse device you want (/dev/mouse might be a symlink to this
> > check woth ls -l /dev/mouse).
> >
> > The server for the card should definately be XF86_SVGA, you should be a
> > ware that there are diferences between the X server ad the driver for
your
> > videocard!
> >
> > Ron Rademaker
> >
> > On Fri, 19 May 2000, Ron Stordahl wrote:
> >
> > > Questions arising during xf86config:
> > >
> > > Mouse--I have a 3 button PS/2 mouse so I select "4 PS/2 Mouse".  Since
> it
> > > has 3 buttons I choose not to emulate 3 buttons.  So good so far, but
> now it
> > > asks for the full device name.  I have no idea.  It suggests
/dev/tty00
> > > which seems unlikely.  Just pressing enter will default to /dev/mouse.
> This
> > > seems reasonable, but my recollection is that a response to this
> question
> > > previously said I need to enter /dev/psaux.I have looked through
the
> > > install doc and it does not answer this question.
> > >
> > > Selection of the card.  I have a Jaton Video-67pro PCI which is not
> listed,
> > > however the chip on the card says Trident 3DImage975 which is in the
> table
> > > showing the driver is the "3dimage975".  Looks good, so I select that
> which
> > > is number 651.
> > >
> > > Now I am at the point which I must determine which server to run.  My
> > > choices are:
> > >
> > > 1 XF86_Mono
> > > 2 XF86_VGA16
> > > 3 XF86-SVGA
> > > 4 The accelerated servers.
> > > 5 "Choose the server from the card definition, XF86_SVGA"
> > >
> > > None of these seem to be good choices, since mine appears to be
> "3dimage975"
> > > I would pick XF86_SVGA, which appears in the list after the card
> definitions
> > > for many many cards, but since for my card it explicitly noted
> "3dimage975"
> > > it would not seem to be correct to pick XF86_SVGA.  I should note that
> in a
> > > failed configuration prior to this e-mail I did just that, and it
didn't
> > > work.
> > >
> > > So what do to?
> > >
> > > Ron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: Clone of hard drive

2000-05-19 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, May 20, 2000 at 01:41:55AM +0200, Ron Rademaker wrote:

> Read the M (as in RTFM) of raid!!

> Ron Rademaker

You mean the one about how to quote and trim mail messages?

> On Fri, 19 May 2000, Jay Kelly wrote:

> > Hello All,
> > Is it possible to clone my linux hard drive to an image or to another drive?
> > This way in the event of hard drive failure I can swap drives and be right
> > back up. If it is, how would I go about it?

IIRC a straght copy of the raw device ought to do the job - something
like "dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb" to copy the data on /dev/hda onto
/dev/hdb.  This asssumes that the disks are identical, of course.

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xinetd

2000-05-19 Thread Francesco Tapparo
Hi,

   I'm considering to use xinetd instead of inetd. The computer is going to
be connected directly to the net and has several users, so security and
reliability is very important.
So i would like to know if someone has experience of using xinetd in a
server. There are problems about the integration with debian (I mean things
as packages which assume the superserver is inetd and not xinetd and similar
things)?

Please cc any answer to me (I cannot stand the combined mail volume of 
debian-devel and debian-user).

thanks

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Re: Trying to configure X

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Stordahl
I believe I have made all the correct selections using xf86config, but after
that when I try startx here is what happens:

X:  exec of /usr/bin/X11XF86_SVGA failed
_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
giving up
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server
xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.

I am stuck at that point.  Any ideas???

Ron


- Original Message -
From: "Ron Rademaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ron Stordahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Debian User List" 
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Trying to configure X


> /dev/psaux
>
> That's the mouse device you want (/dev/mouse might be a symlink to this
> check woth ls -l /dev/mouse).
>
> The server for the card should definately be XF86_SVGA, you should be a
> ware that there are diferences between the X server ad the driver for your
> videocard!
>
> Ron Rademaker
>
> On Fri, 19 May 2000, Ron Stordahl wrote:
>
> > Questions arising during xf86config:
> >
> > Mouse--I have a 3 button PS/2 mouse so I select "4 PS/2 Mouse".  Since
it
> > has 3 buttons I choose not to emulate 3 buttons.  So good so far, but
now it
> > asks for the full device name.  I have no idea.  It suggests /dev/tty00
> > which seems unlikely.  Just pressing enter will default to /dev/mouse.
This
> > seems reasonable, but my recollection is that a response to this
question
> > previously said I need to enter /dev/psaux.I have looked through the
> > install doc and it does not answer this question.
> >
> > Selection of the card.  I have a Jaton Video-67pro PCI which is not
listed,
> > however the chip on the card says Trident 3DImage975 which is in the
table
> > showing the driver is the "3dimage975".  Looks good, so I select that
which
> > is number 651.
> >
> > Now I am at the point which I must determine which server to run.  My
> > choices are:
> >
> > 1 XF86_Mono
> > 2 XF86_VGA16
> > 3 XF86-SVGA
> > 4 The accelerated servers.
> > 5 "Choose the server from the card definition, XF86_SVGA"
> >
> > None of these seem to be good choices, since mine appears to be
"3dimage975"
> > I would pick XF86_SVGA, which appears in the list after the card
definitions
> > for many many cards, but since for my card it explicitly noted
"3dimage975"
> > it would not seem to be correct to pick XF86_SVGA.  I should note that
in a
> > failed configuration prior to this e-mail I did just that, and it didn't
> > work.
> >
> > So what do to?
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Mass install / Autoinstall

2000-05-19 Thread Chris Wagner
Ah, so you're tricking lilo into thinking that /dev/hdc is /dev/hda.  Very
clever.

At 07:26 PM 5/18/00 -0700, Tril wrote:
>Here's a URL that explains how to install LILO onto a drive other than the
>boot drive.  Use the poorly documented features of lilo, "disk=" and
>"bios=": 
>
>"Installing hdc to Boot as hda and Using bios="
>http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/LILO-4.html

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Re: I'm an idiot

2000-05-19 Thread Justin Megawarne
On Sat, May 20, 2000 at 01:31:20AM +0200, Ron Rademaker wrote:
> Alright, the subject is right!!
> 
> Ron Rademakeker
> 
> On Fri, 19 May 2000, Graeme Mathieson wrote:
> 

Wow you sure are friendly.
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Re: Clone of hard drive

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Rademaker
Read the M (as in RTFM) of raid!!

Ron Rademaker

On Fri, 19 May 2000, Jay Kelly wrote:

> Hello All,
> Is it possible to clone my linux hard drive to an image or to another drive?
> This way in the event of hard drive failure I can swap drives and be right
> back up. If it is, how would I go about it?
> 
> 
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Re: Trying to configure X

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Rademaker
/dev/psaux 

That's the mouse device you want (/dev/mouse might be a symlink to this
check woth ls -l /dev/mouse).

The server for the card should definately be XF86_SVGA, you should be a
ware that there are diferences between the X server ad the driver for your
videocard!

Ron Rademaker

On Fri, 19 May 2000, Ron Stordahl wrote:

> Questions arising during xf86config:
> 
> Mouse--I have a 3 button PS/2 mouse so I select "4 PS/2 Mouse".  Since it
> has 3 buttons I choose not to emulate 3 buttons.  So good so far, but now it
> asks for the full device name.  I have no idea.  It suggests /dev/tty00
> which seems unlikely.  Just pressing enter will default to /dev/mouse.  This
> seems reasonable, but my recollection is that a response to this question
> previously said I need to enter /dev/psaux.I have looked through the
> install doc and it does not answer this question.
> 
> Selection of the card.  I have a Jaton Video-67pro PCI which is not listed,
> however the chip on the card says Trident 3DImage975 which is in the table
> showing the driver is the "3dimage975".  Looks good, so I select that which
> is number 651.
> 
> Now I am at the point which I must determine which server to run.  My
> choices are:
> 
> 1 XF86_Mono
> 2 XF86_VGA16
> 3 XF86-SVGA
> 4 The accelerated servers.
> 5 "Choose the server from the card definition, XF86_SVGA"
> 
> None of these seem to be good choices, since mine appears to be "3dimage975"
> I would pick XF86_SVGA, which appears in the list after the card definitions
> for many many cards, but since for my card it explicitly noted "3dimage975"
> it would not seem to be correct to pick XF86_SVGA.  I should note that in a
> failed configuration prior to this e-mail I did just that, and it didn't
> work.
> 
> So what do to?
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Rademaker
Try: pt-get install pine

It'll give youenough information to get a bit further

Ron Rademaker

PS. Damn when is someone going to read apt-ge's FM!!, perhaps we'll just
have to put a few pages with apt-get info during install on the users
screen, the amount of question that has to do with it are (mostly,
exceptly for some) just TOO EASY!!!



On Fri, 19 May 2000, Chris Wagner wrote:

> It's not too hard to find pine*.deb.  Use Fast FTP Search.
> 
> At 09:54 AM 5/19/00 +0800, Sanjeev \"Ghane\" Gupta wrote:
> >Because Univ of Washington doesn't allow modified tarballs to be
> >distributed, and you have to modify the tarball's paths to be Debian
> >compliant.
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Re: potato boot floppies and FTP/HTTP install

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Rademaker
5, 1 rescue disk, 1 root partitin disk, 3 driver disks (you could do this
with the good ols slink disk but you'll have to upgrade something that
might give some problems regarding libc6 and perl.

Ron Rademaker


On Fri, 19 May 2000, S. Salman Ahmed wrote:

> 
> I recently tried using Corel Linux and Caldera on this one spare
> system I have at work just because I had received free copies of those
> CDs. After trying to get used to these "other" distributions I decided
> enough was enough and just had to go back to good old Debian.
> 
> I'd like to do a ftp/http install of potato on this system since we have
> a fast connection at work. How many boot floppies are required to do
> this kind of ftp/http install ?
> 
> And secondly, where can I download these potato boot floppies/images
> from ?
> 
> -- 
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> ssahmed AT pathcom DOT com
> 
> 
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Trying to configure X

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Stordahl
Questions arising during xf86config:

Mouse--I have a 3 button PS/2 mouse so I select "4 PS/2 Mouse".  Since it
has 3 buttons I choose not to emulate 3 buttons.  So good so far, but now it
asks for the full device name.  I have no idea.  It suggests /dev/tty00
which seems unlikely.  Just pressing enter will default to /dev/mouse.  This
seems reasonable, but my recollection is that a response to this question
previously said I need to enter /dev/psaux.I have looked through the
install doc and it does not answer this question.

Selection of the card.  I have a Jaton Video-67pro PCI which is not listed,
however the chip on the card says Trident 3DImage975 which is in the table
showing the driver is the "3dimage975".  Looks good, so I select that which
is number 651.

Now I am at the point which I must determine which server to run.  My
choices are:

1 XF86_Mono
2 XF86_VGA16
3 XF86-SVGA
4 The accelerated servers.
5 "Choose the server from the card definition, XF86_SVGA"

None of these seem to be good choices, since mine appears to be "3dimage975"
I would pick XF86_SVGA, which appears in the list after the card definitions
for many many cards, but since for my card it explicitly noted "3dimage975"
it would not seem to be correct to pick XF86_SVGA.  I should note that in a
failed configuration prior to this e-mail I did just that, and it didn't
work.

So what do to?

Ron





Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

2000-05-19 Thread Chris Wagner
It's not too hard to find pine*.deb.  Use Fast FTP Search.

At 09:54 AM 5/19/00 +0800, Sanjeev \"Ghane\" Gupta wrote:
>Because Univ of Washington doesn't allow modified tarballs to be
>distributed, and you have to modify the tarball's paths to be Debian
>compliant.

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Re: I'm an idiot

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Rademaker
Alright, the subject is right!!

Ron Rademakeker

On Fri, 19 May 2000, Graeme Mathieson wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Hi,
> 
> A number of you will have received strange messages (purporting to be Usenet
> test or cancel messages) from my machine between 1700 and 1830 GMT today.
> I messsed up my news server configuration which managed to spam several
> people with these.
> 
> Sorry.  It wont happen again...
> 
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Re: your mail

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Rademaker
Start browser
GOTO http://www.debian.org/
Find subriction to mailing lists

Ron Rademaker

On Fri, 19 May 2000, William Paul Philibert wrote:

> How can I subscribe to the mailing list?
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Rademaker
Are your sureyour ne hd has a MBR (master Boot Record)!?

Ron Rademaker

PS. To check this: RTFM (sorry, can't tell you which M...)

On Fri, 19 May 2000, Daniel J. Kruszyna wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I just recently upgraded the hard drive on my Debian machine (an intel box
> running potato), and while everything copied successfully, I could not get
> the new hard disk to boot.  I then changed my lilo.conf to point to
> "/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14" instead of the symlink at "/vmlinuz", and
> everythinig worked fine.  Does anyone know what's going on here?  How
> come lilo doesn't recognize the symlink like it did before?  If you
> any more information, just let me know.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> -- Daniel Kruszyna
> 
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Re: ISO IMAGE OF DEBIAN?

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Rademaker
Check the mailing lists of a few weeks ago, there was an URL where you can
download iso-images of potato (if you can't find them, mail me, i still
got it SOMEWHERE in my mailbox).

Ron Raemaker

On Fri, 19 May 2000, -={ Menno Slaats }=- wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can download the ISO IMAGE of Debian?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Menno Slaats
> 



Re: ISDN question

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Rademaker
A little more information would be nice... Wath ent (is going) wrong???
Checking your email adres I guess yoiur quite familair with linux / debian
: SHAME ON YOU YOU DIDN'T GIVE ANY MORE INFO!

Ron Rademker

On Fri, 19 May 2000, Michael Meskes wrote:

> We tried to set up a machine with ISDN that should automatically receiver
> DNS information from the provider. This worked well with an analog modem but
> failed with ISDN. Is there anything that needs special configuration?
> 
> Michael
> 
> P.S.: Please CC me on replies.
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Re: Clone of hard drive

2000-05-19 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Jay Kelly wrote:
Yes, and there's more than one way to do it, but the Hard-Disk-Upgrade
mini HOWTO should get you started on it:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html

Tom

> 
> Hello All,
> Is it possible to clone my linux hard drive to an image or to another drive?
> This way in the event of hard drive failure I can swap drives and be right
> back up. If it is, how would I go about it?



Re: Clone of hard drive

2000-05-19 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
> Is it possible to clone my linux hard drive to an image or to another drive?
> This way in the event of hard drive failure I can swap drives and be right
> back up. If it is, how would I go about it?
> 
"dd if=/dev/hd?x of=image-file" to save it,
"dd if=image-file of=/dev/hd?x" to restore it (beware!!!).
you could copy from one partition to another directly, too.
you can handle any block device that way, the possibilities are
nearly endless.

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Re: potato boot floppies and FTP/HTTP install

2000-05-19 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
> I'd like to do a ftp/http install of potato on this system since we have
> a fast connection at work. How many boot floppies are required to do
> this kind of ftp/http install ?
> 
basically two floppies: a rescue (boot) disk and a root disk. possibly you
need the disk with additional driver modules, too.

> And secondly, where can I download these potato boot floppies/images
> from ?
i got mine here:
ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/


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Clone of hard drive

2000-05-19 Thread Jay Kelly
Hello All,
Is it possible to clone my linux hard drive to an image or to another drive?
This way in the event of hard drive failure I can swap drives and be right
back up. If it is, how would I go about it?



Re: log file full of "-- MARK --"

2000-05-19 Thread Boris Veytsman

> Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 19:05:02 +0200
> From: "Sven Burgener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 

> >Never seen this on any other unix system...

> Precisely. What exactly is the reason for syslog to have this "feature"?


I do not about author's motives, but I find this feature very
useful. First, when the system crashes, you can always pinpoint the
time of the crash, which is of great help (well, Debian does not crash
:), but faulty hardware, thunderstorms etc sometimes change
this). Second, the first thing any cracker does when getting into your
system is deleting protions of the syslog to cover his traces. This
feature might help to track an unaware script kid (a smarter hacker
can fake the marks, of course, but this is an extra barrier).

Actually I always emulate this feature on non-Linux systems I have by
making a daemon to write something to the syslog every 10 minutes.

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Roulette game?

2000-05-19 Thread Nils-Erik Svangård
Hi!

Are the any roulette games available for Debian?

/nisse



"generic-serial" and "serial"

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Stordahl
In the install module section there are two choices which both sound like
they could be the pc standard com1 and com2 ports:

generic_serial   (No description available)
serial  (No description available)

Which one to pick

ron





Debian-CD Image and Kernel versions puzzle

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Stordahl
I am experimenting with installs of frozen potato and this is a puzzle (to
me):

Using a CD ISO image I downloaded of potato about a month ago I do a CD Boot
to install the base system, then I select http for the access method.  Doing
so I end up with Kernel version 2.2.14.

Using a new ISO image I downloaded just today when proceeding in the same
fashion I end up with Kernel version 2.2.15.

Here is what puzzles me.  I have the impression that I am using the CD just
to load a basic system, to give me the capability to proceed further with an
http install, as such I would have thought that either way I would end up
with the latest frozen potato, yet I end up with different versions.  Is
there a good reason for this?

A second question would be is there an ISO source which I could download
which would only contain the basic system that if I could use just to get
going, then switch to http (or ftp) install.  The full disc is 600+ MB, but
a CD of the basic system needed to get going and complete with http or ftp
install would be much much smaller...would be nice to have.

Ron





Re: freshmeat running on windoze?!

2000-05-19 Thread Drew Bloechl
On Sat, May 20, 2000 at 12:12:01AM +0200, Sven Burgener wrote:
> Hi debians
> 
> According to www.netcraft.com/whats , freshmeat.org is running on
> windoze? Is this really the case!? How come? Is this for real?

Indeed it is.  Note that what you want is probably freshmeat.net
 ^^^

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Re: freshmeat running on windoze?!

2000-05-19 Thread Sven Burgener
Ooops...

>According to www.netcraft.com/whats , freshmeat.org is running on
>windoze? Is this really the case!? How come? Is this for real?

Sorry, I have mistaken freshmeat.net with .org! Sorry, all my fault!
Just forget I ever posted these two post! :)

Sven



Re: freshmeat running on windoze?!

2000-05-19 Thread Damon Buckwalter
On Sat, May 20, 2000 at 12:12:01AM +0200, Sven Burgener wrote:
> Hi debians
> 
> According to www.netcraft.com/whats , freshmeat.org is running on
> windoze? Is this really the case!? How come? Is this for real?

Didn't you know?  Scoop runs his stuff on a 286/12 with 640+384k of memory
and Windows 3.0.

But seriously, I think you mean freshmeat.net, which is totally different
than freshmeat.org.  ;)

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freshmeat running on windoze?!

2000-05-19 Thread Sven Burgener
Hi debians

According to www.netcraft.com/whats , freshmeat.org is running on
windoze? Is this really the case!? How come? Is this for real?

Sven



installing gphoto

2000-05-19 Thread Nick



i am installing the free version of gphoto similair 
to photoshop but have encountered the following problem.
i need to upgrade my libc6 libs but am prompted to 
replace ldso, i need the version 1.9.11-2.1 but can only find
1.9.11-2 on lycos and anything else.
 
anyone know of a good source for ldso and libc6 
stuff?
 
thankx in advance.


Re: Kernel revision info command?

2000-05-19 Thread Robert Waldner
On Fri, 19 May 2000 16:45:22 CDT, "Ron Stordahl" writes:
>I am in bash.  What do I type to determine the current revision of the
>kernel?  Or if you can't do it there, how?

bash-2.03$ uname -a
Linux WatchZwerg 2.0.38 #4 Sun Jan 2 23:48:24 MET 2000 i586 unknown

hth,
&rw
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Re: Why is the Debian home page so boring?

2000-05-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 11:47:36AM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> Looking at the Debian home page, one get the impression that only the
> now very old Slink distribution, with kernel 2.0.36, old X, old libc,
> etc, released March 1999 is available.

It's the official one, still.

> The News section mentions the testing of a new distribution is ongoing.

The freeze announcements should be there somewhere, surely.

Anyway, the freeze isn't meant to be for testing by the general public, just
the clueful people. It normally behaves just like unstable, until we fix it.

> NOTHING is said about the power of apt-get and the ease of upgrading using
> the web to more recent software.  Also, nothing is mentioned about the
> availability of kernel-2.2.15, XFrre86-3.3.6, glibc-2.1.3, etc, already
> today, even BEFORE Potato has been released.

That's because it's all available in frozen, and unstable distributions, not
in the stable one. There's a significant difference between those.

> 1. Rewrite the Getting Started section, e.g. inform about the large
>number of architectures and packages supported. This surely
>attracts new users.
> 2. Something on apt-get, and upgrading from the web.
> 3. Rewrite the News section, e.g. add links to recent packages
>available, with highlights, updated frequently.
> 4. In addition to the Weekly News link, add more frequent updates to
>the News section. Surely, by following the excellent mailing lists,
>you realize much more is happening than what is reported on the
>first page.

Feel free to implement any of this... the sources are in CVS, at
:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/webwml , modules webwml/english
or whatever other language available. Submit patches to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Also any discussions about the web pages should
be held there.

> On the wish list for the distribution I would like to add an smp
> kernel. Other distributions have. Today this has to be made manually,
> even if excellent tools are available for this.

Tell debian-boot@lists.debian.org list about it.

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Kernel revision info command?

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Stordahl
I am in bash.  What do I type to determine the current revision of the
kernel?  Or if you can't do it there, how?

Ron





Re: Crash-URL

2000-05-19 Thread Justin Megawarne
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 11:14:15PM +0200, Sven Burgener wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I once saw a link on a page that caused windows to crash immediately
> when clicked on. It was stated on that very page that this would happen.
> So then I tried it and it worked! Unfortunately I lost the URL. :*(
> Anyone know of this? Perhaps it's something like "NUL" or so which
> supposedly is a reserved name under windows?
> 
> TIA!
> Sven

Probably so ... perhaps something like ?
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Re: Hard Drive Upgrade

2000-05-19 Thread Daniel J. Kruszyna
Actually, come to think of it, even though the new drive wouldn't boot at
first, it still got as far as "Loading Linux", so I guess it might not be
a lilo problem after all.  The boot process got to "Loading Linux", but
not to "Uncompressing Linux".  Changing the image= in my lilo.conf from
/vmlinuz to /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14 still made the drive bootable though.
Anybody know what's going on here?

-- Daniel Kruszyna




Re: power saving - A good idea

2000-05-19 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
> I lost a hard drive on my firewall machine recently so I looked for ways to
> conserve the drive. I enabled power saving(?) in the BIOS so that the IDE
> spins down after 5 mins of inactivity. As it is the only machine on a lot of
> the time, the HD is rarely used anyway.
> Any downside to this, will it cause problesm? Three days in and the machine
> seems fine.
> 

there is a downside: every time the disk spins up, it gets a bit "older".
ide disks survive many more spin-ups than scsi disks nowadays, but they
have their limits, too.

however, this number is about 300,000 or something like that (will vary
very much from disk to disk). assuming, that the drive spins up 100
times a day, it would work for 10 years. so this should not be an issue.

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RE: Why is the Debian home page so boring?

2000-05-19 Thread Svante Signell
This is the kind of reply I was fearing, effectively shutting off the
discussion. Please read the whole content of my message. The intent
was NOT blinking text, images, animations, etc. It was about moving the
best properties of the debian distribution and tools up front, also
for newcomers to see. As written earlier, I appreciate Debian more and
more for every day. Why not telling the Linux community (and potential
new users) that it is one of the best distributions?

Svante Signell 


Chris Mason writes:
 > But what's really missing is some of that ever-popular BLINKing text, some
 > large red letters on a colourful background, loads of clip art animations,
 > and some huge pictures to make the visitors wait over a minute for the first
 > page.
 > That ought to do it.
 > 
 > 
 > Chris Mason
 > Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies
 > Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463
 > USA Fax (561) 382-7771
 > Take a virtual tour of the island
 > http://net.ai/ The Anguilla Guide
 > Find out more about NetConcepts
 > www.netconcepts.ai
 > bwz*mq



Re: Why is the Debian home page so boring?

2000-05-19 Thread Svante Signell
Couldn't agree more with Gary.

(I don't think this message was sent to any of the lists, only me. Gary, do you
mind that your reply is forwarded? If so please send me a private mail.)

Svante Signell

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 > Quoting Svante Signell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > > 
 > > Looking at the Debian home page, one get the impression that only the
 > > now very old Slink distribution, with kernel 2.0.36, old X, old libc,
 > > etc, released March 1999 is available. The News section mentions the
 > > testing of a new distribution is ongoing. NOTHING is said about the
 > > power of apt-get and the ease of upgrading using the web to more
 > > recent software.  Also, nothing is mentioned about the availability of
 > > kernel-2.2.15, XFrre86-3.3.6, glibc-2.1.3, etc, already today, even
 > > BEFORE Potato has been released.
 > > 
 >I agree with the idea. I have used debian for a number of years, and
 > am very happy with it. But if you are new to it, and go to the home page,
 > it is very difficult to decide whether you want to go thru the effort
 > to evaluate it because it at times appears to be hopelessly behind the
 > time. I did not take your proposal as asking for glitz, but rather 
 > as suggesting that basic information be there up front.
 > 
 > Gary
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]



power saving - A good idea

2000-05-19 Thread Chris Mason
I lost a hard drive on my firewall machine recently so I looked for ways to
conserve the drive. I enabled power saving(?) in the BIOS so that the IDE
spins down after 5 mins of inactivity. As it is the only machine on a lot of
the time, the HD is rarely used anyway.
Any downside to this, will it cause problesm? Three days in and the machine
seems fine.

Chris Mason
Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies
Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463
USA Fax (561) 382-7771
Take a virtual tour of the island
http://net.ai/ The Anguilla Guide
Find out more about NetConcepts
www.netconcepts.ai
bwz*mq




RE: UPS wars: APC vs Tripplite?

2000-05-19 Thread Chris Mason
Best power has the best UPS's. We have a 3.1KVA that has 80,000 hours on it,
I expect 80,000 more. The tech support is fabulous, I have used them many
times. We have lousy power and nothing gets through.

Chris Mason
Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies
Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463
USA Fax (561) 382-7771
Take a virtual tour of the island
http://net.ai/ The Anguilla Guide
Find out more about NetConcepts
www.netconcepts.ai
bwz*mq

-Original Message-
From: Peter S Galbraith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 3:51 PM
To: Ron Farrer
Cc: Debian Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: UPS wars: APC vs Tripplite?



> Thanks to everyone who has responded so far. Basically what everyone
> seems to be saying is: APC's newer products aren't so good, Tripplite is
> ok, and Best Power has the best Linux support.
>
> Visiting each of these companies sites, I like:
>
> Tripplite OMNISMART 700 PNP UPS 120V.
> APC Backups Pro 650 UPS 120V.
> Best Power Patriot Pro II 750/470 120V.

As I email in personal email this morning, there's also
CyberPower:

 See http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/
 and http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/admin/powstatd.html
 (I have a slink build of it too)

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Crash-URL

2000-05-19 Thread Sven Burgener
Hello

I once saw a link on a page that caused windows to crash immediately
when clicked on. It was stated on that very page that this would happen.
So then I tried it and it worked! Unfortunately I lost the URL. :*(
Anyone know of this? Perhaps it's something like "NUL" or so which
supposedly is a reserved name under windows?

TIA!
Sven



Crash-URL

2000-05-19 Thread Sven Burgener
Hello

I once saw a link on a page that caused windows to crash immediately
when clicked on. It was stated on that very page that this would happen.
So then I tried it and it worked! Unfortunately I lost the URL. :*(
Anyone know of this? Perhaps it's something like "NUL" or so which
supposedly is a reserved name under windows?

TIA!
Sven



NFS server setup problems...

2000-05-19 Thread Kelly Corbin
At boot, Debian tells me:

Starting NFS kernel daemon: export 'blah':/'blah': Function not
implemented
nfsd nfssvc: Function not implemented.

What am I missing?  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks!

Kelly
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: apt-get, upgrade, /var/cache/apt/archives

2000-05-19 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
I haven't found any package called dpkg-scanpackages. I searched the deb
site, can't find it. can you be more explicit?
Thanks

Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote:

> Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
>
> > Questions:
> > 1:) What is the best way to make apt-get use the /archives folder to
> > perform the upgrade and return the system to stage 2. above?
> > 2:) Perhaps some other feature can be added to apt-get to allow this
> > reconstruction to occur in a smooth way? That would save bunches of
> > bandwidth, etc, etc...
>
> Read the docs about dpkg-scanpackages (which creates a Packages file) and
> about apt-get (use a file:// line in /etc/apt/sources.list).
>
>   Ulf



Re: APM Disable

2000-05-19 Thread Adam Shand

> According to the only package I found on Debian's site concerning APM
> (apmd): The Debian default kernel does *not* contain APM support,
> because it causes problems on some computers.

as of a few kernels ago in potato (at least a few months ago but i can't
remember when) apm support *is* enabled but you have to turn it on with an
option in your lilo.conf.  i know this works cause i use it all the time on
my laptop.  to get apm add this to your lilo.conf (run lilo) and reboot:

append="apm=on"

> I don't remember how to change the screen saver settings, but a quick
> search of the Debian Mail archives should turn up something for you, as
> that's discussed fairly regularly on this list.

check out the command xset.  i believe that is what you want.

adam.



Re:

2000-05-19 Thread Kent West
William Paul Philibert wrote:

> How can I subscribe to the mailing list?
>
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This page:
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe
has instructions for "manually" subscribing, as well as a point&click interface 
for
subscribing.




I'm an idiot

2000-05-19 Thread Graeme Mathieson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi,

A number of you will have received strange messages (purporting to be Usenet
test or cancel messages) from my machine between 1700 and 1830 GMT today.
I messsed up my news server configuration which managed to spam several
people with these.

Sorry.  It wont happen again...

- -- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"Life's not fair," I reply. "But the root password helps." - BOFH

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Re: chaningen the username on outgoing mail in pine.

2000-05-19 Thread Lindsay Haisley
You might want to consider switching to mutt for your MUA.  It makes the
process much easier.

Thus spake Kent Nyberg on Fri, May 19, 2000 at 01:52:21PM CDT
> On Thu, 18 May 2000, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
> 
> > > Is there some way i can change the username on mail sent by pine?
> > the usual way to go is to configure your mta to do address rewriting.
> > however, in pine you could add a custom header "From: blabla" - but this
> > is not very clean.
> 
> 
> How do i change that in pine?
> I have cant find any information about that.. :(

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Re: APM Disable

2000-05-19 Thread Kent West
Jay Kelly wrote:

> Hello Guys,
> After a few minutes my monitors shut due to APM. Where do I shutoff APM? I
> checked the bios and didnt see anything dor the monitor.
> Any sugestion would be great
>
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According to the only package I found on Debian's site concerning APM (apmd): 
The
Debian default kernel does *not* contain APM support, because it causes 
problems on
some computers.

So unless you've recompiled your kernel for APM, it's probably only a screen 
saver
blanker instead of APM, or it's built into the monitor itself and is perhaps
activated after the screen saver kicks in.

Does the monitor's power light go off or start flashing, or does the screen 
just go
blank?

I don't remember how to change the screen saver settings, but a quick search of 
the
Debian Mail archives should turn up something for you, as that's discussed 
fairly
regularly on this list.




Re: UPS wars: APC vs Tripplite?

2000-05-19 Thread Peter S Galbraith

> Thanks to everyone who has responded so far. Basically what everyone
> seems to be saying is: APC's newer products aren't so good, Tripplite is
> ok, and Best Power has the best Linux support. 
> 
> Visiting each of these companies sites, I like: 
> 
> Tripplite OMNISMART 700 PNP UPS 120V. 
> APC Backups Pro 650 UPS 120V. 
> Best Power Patriot Pro II 750/470 120V. 

As I email in personal email this morning, there's also
CyberPower:
 
 See http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/
 and http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/admin/powstatd.html
 (I have a slink build of it too)

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Re: chaningen the username on outgoing mail in pine.

2000-05-19 Thread Adam Shand

> > > Is there some way i can change the username on mail sent by pine?
> > the usual way to go is to configure your mta to do address rewriting.
> > however, in pine you could add a custom header "From: blabla" - but this
> > is not very clean.
> 
> How do i change that in pine? I have cant find any information about
> that.. :(

customer headers can be added in the pine menu (go to the main menu, then to
setup, then config then search for "custom", if you need help ^G will give
you help on the highlighted option).

however, i don't believe you can use custom headers to change the
"From: " header.  i tried this the other day and it didn't work.  you can
change the domain that is in the "From: " header by changing the "Default
Domain" entry in the pine menu, but i don't believe there is any way to
change the username other then to log in as a different user.

adam.



Re: chaningen the username on outgoing mail in pine.

2000-05-19 Thread Kent Nyberg
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:

> > Is there some way i can change the username on mail sent by pine?
> the usual way to go is to configure your mta to do address rewriting.
> however, in pine you could add a custom header "From: blabla" - but this
> is not very clean.


How do i change that in pine?
I have cant find any information about that.. :(



Re: dumbass wm question

2000-05-19 Thread Mike Werner
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 10:10:42AM +0100, Dominic Blythe wrote:
> so is there a full-on desktop that's pretty tiny? 
> if i want to know what time/day it is i can look at the clock on my wall etc

I've tried a few different ones, and here's what I've found.

KDE - resource hog
FVWM95 - not bad, basically looks just like Win95
WindowMaker - very nice, a bit large resource-usage-wise
Sawmill - *very* nice, very configurable, but just too slow
Blackbox - quite nice, smallest of the lot as far as resource usage,
what I currently use, pretty minimal as far as what's
on screen

But really, it all comes down to what each person likes.  It's
easy enough to try 'em all, that I'd reccomend you do just that.
Start trying out the different window managers - what one person
might dislike about one someone else might really like.
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Sorry (Re: MACHTYPE, HOSTTYPE variables)

2000-05-19 Thread Guentcho Skordev
Hello,

Sorry for asking twice the same question. I see that both messages are in
the list now...

Bye
Guentcho



MACHTYPE, HOSTTYPE variables

2000-05-19 Thread Guentcho Skordev
Hello,

Which programs use the variables MACHTYPE and HOSTTYPE?
Althugh I have installed slink on a 386, the values are:

HOSTTYPE=i486
MACHTYPE=i486-pc-linux-gnu

And now I see also:

BASH_VERSINFO=([0]="2" [1]="01" [2]="1" [3]="1" [4]="release" 
[5]="i486-pc-linux-gnu")

Is there something wrong?

Bye
Guentcho
P.S. I have sent the message from another address and later
that message came to me:

On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 07:12:24PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This is an automatic response. Do not be alarmed.
> The BOFH-bot cancelled your message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> because:
>   Invalid distribution.
[...]

But I still think the problem was with the address, not with the
distribution, so I am trying again.



Re: Sound on a ASUS K7

2000-05-19 Thread Andreas Oeldenberger
Karsten Bolding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On the ASUS K7 motherboard is a AC'97 V2.1 CODEC, Analog Devices 3D
> sound circuitry.
> 
> Which selections do I have to do when compiling a new kernel to enable
> sound?

you either need a 2.3.x kernel or alsa >= 0.5.6


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MACHTYPE, HOSTTYPE variables

2000-05-19 Thread Guentcho Skordev
Hello,

What are HOSTTYPE and MACHTYPE used for? I have installed slink on a 386,
but the values are:

HOSTTYPE=i486
MACHTYPE=i486-pc-linux-gnu

Bye
Guentcho



[no subject]

2000-05-19 Thread William Paul Philibert

How can I subscribe to the mailing list?



Wakup LAN - Good morning...up and at em

2000-05-19 Thread Tom Warfield
Okay i have a 3COM 905 card with the option of using the WakeUp lan feature.
My motherboard supports it and it is installed.  Once the computer is turned
off the light on the card still stays onokay so know im reading about
some kinda MagicPacket...

I think i have the stuff setup right for the hardware, its turned on in the
BIOS...how do i tell the system to Wake UP?   Can you say GOOD MORNING?  :)

The box im trying to wakup is running Windows 2000, but it will eventualy be
running debian.  The box that i want to send the WakeUp call is running
debian.  How can i do this???



More headaches with mailagent config

2000-05-19 Thread Tony
Hello,

Here's my next set of problems with setting up mailagent:

When mailagent starts to LEAVE, it wants to "execute" /var/spool/mail/uctpjac 
(my mail file), and in this execution it fails (see log entries below). Can 
someone tell me what this execution is, and what I need to do to get performed 
OK?

Thanks 

Tony




mailagent: matching summary rule #1: failed
mailagent: NOTICE no match, leaving in mailbox
mailagent: XEQ (LEAVE)
>> LEAVE
mailagent: starting LEAVE
mailagent: starting SAVE /var/spool/mail/uctpjac
mailagent: HOOKING [testmail1.txt] to /var/spool/mail/uctpjac (program)
mailagent: hook is a plain program
mailagent: can allow exec() of /var/spool/mail/uctpjac
mailagent: symbolic file /bin/sh for interpretor file is secure
mailagent: NOTICE running interpretor /bin/sh actually runs /bin/bash
mailagent: can allow /bin/sh to run /var/spool/mail/uctpjac
mailagent: ERROR execution failed for '/var/spool/mail/uctpjac'
mailagent: SENT output of '/var/spool/mail/uctpjac' to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (207 bytes)
mailagent: WARNING program returned non-zero status
mailagent: ERROR cannot run /var/spool/mail/uctpjac at (eval 157) line 6.
mailagent: ERROR could not save mail in /var/spool/mail/uctpjac
mailagent: DUMPED in /var/spool/mail/uctpjac
mailagent: unlocked ./testmail1.txt
mailagent: FILTERED [testmail1.txt] 872 bytes




Re: init - autostarts

2000-05-19 Thread Richard Klinda
Hoi Dominic!

  Dominic> all that "starting syslogd", "starting inetd" etc
  Dominic> when you're booting, it's controlled by init, right?

  Dominic> how do i tell it not to start the things I'd rather 
  Dominic> not be running?

I don't know how good or sloppy solution this is, but I usually simply
do a "chmod -x /etc/init.d/SCRIPT_I_WANT_NOT_TO_START" as root.  If I
change my mind, I can do "chmod +x ..." to enable that service to
start at boot again.

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Re: APM Disable

2000-05-19 Thread Richard Klinda
Hoi Jay!

  Jay> After a few minutes my monitors shut due to APM. Where do I
  Jay> shutoff APM? I checked the bios and didnt see anything dor the
  Jay> monitor.  Any sugestion would be great

How about setting your monitor's turn off time?  Under X xset, under
console setterm can do the job for you.

For ex:

  xset dpms 120 120 16200

Blanks the screen after 2 minutes, and turns off the monitor after
16200/60 = 27 minutes.  (You might insert that line into your
.xinitrc.)

With setterm, look for the -powersave switch in the manual!

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DFE-570 TX Server Card confusion...

2000-05-19 Thread Kristian
Hi there again, dear fellow debian-using folks...

Actually, running into some trouble right now with one of those D-Link
PCI-based DFE-570TX "Quad Channel Server Card". Having just an ugly M$Win NT
driver disk and a very poor documentation handy, I'm now desperately trying to
get this thing working somehow. So, basically I was able to load the
2.2.14-based tulip driver module which somehow seems to be right, but I can't
access any of these four NICs on this card, anyhow. Does anybody know about
this device and about how to probably get it working? 
Further, with the WinNT drivers it looks like all those four interfaces on that
card are treated as one, meaning that you're able to reach the server through
the same IP address no matter to which of the ports you connect (as a matter of
fact, it doesn't work well in Win NT, but at least the idea is clear to me). Is
something like this possible in Linux, and, if it is, how do I do that?

Thanks in advance for your help... Have a great weekend.
Bye,
Kris


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Re: log file full of "-- MARK --"

2000-05-19 Thread Sven Burgener
[snip]
>>to show, that the system lives. :)
>>if you don't like it, then supply "-m 1" to syslogd
>-- will do.
[snip]
>Never seen this on any other unix system...

Precisely. What exactly is the reason for syslog to have this "feature"?

TIA
Sven



Re: log file full of "-- MARK --"

2000-05-19 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:

> > /var/messages has a "-- MARK --" every 20 minutes; why?
> > 
> to show, that the system lives. :)
> if you don't like it, then supply "-m 1" to syslogd

Better yet, turn it off in /etc/syslog.conf like so:

*.=info;*.=notice;*.=warn;\
auth,authpriv.none;\
cron,daemon.none;\
mail,mark.none,news.none-/var/log/messages
 ^

Add `mark.none' to line defs for files in which you don't want
the mark.

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RE: Digest mailing list #543 ?

2000-05-19 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
I've been getting the same message header since 04/06/00.  I've complained
to no avail as of yet.  I think everyone is working to get potato out, and
ignoring maintenance of the server.

Brooks

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Guido
> Bozzetto
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 11:22 AM
> To: Debian users
> Subject: Digest mailing list #543 ?
>
>
> The last message that arrived to me is the
>Volume 100 : Issue 543
> that arrived without topics index :-(
>
> Is this correct or there are problems ?
>
> Thank you, Guido.
> --
> ++---+
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Re: UPS wars: APC vs Tripplite?

2000-05-19 Thread Ron Farrer
Ron Farrer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> I've been thinking about getting a new UPS. Previously I purchased APC
> products, but I want to hear about other experiences. I've pretty much
> narrowed it down to a product from APC or Tripplite. APC is more
> expensive, less Linux/UNIX friendly, but makes good products (IMHO).
> Tripplite is less expensive, more Linux/UNIX friendly, but I'm not sure
> how the quality of their product compares to APC. 
> 
> Does anyone know of some sort of comparison between these two companies
> products? I'm interested in features/quality more then price. 

Thanks to everyone who has responded so far. Basically what everyone
seems to be saying is: APC's newer products aren't so good, Tripplite is
ok, and Best Power has the best Linux support. 

Visiting each of these companies sites, I like: 

Tripplite OMNISMART 700 PNP UPS 120V. 
APC Backups Pro 650 UPS 120V. 
Best Power Patriot Pro II 750/470 120V. 

Going over the specs (many times) the Tripplite seems to have the most
features. Visiting their software page they make all of their software
for Linux available under the GNU GPL. This will be a requirement as I
am NOT running an x86 system (Alpha) and will need to be able to compile
everything... 

I have not yet made a choice, and would like to hear everyone's opinion
of these three models. 


TIA,

Ron
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Re: DSL and DEBIAN

2000-05-19 Thread John Foster
> Ben Babich wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> does anyone know if there is support for dsl within debian or redhat?
> 
> If not, will it be in the plan for the next release?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ben
---
DSL requires no additional support in Debian other than recognizing your
NIC (network interface card) commonly referred to as an ethernet card. I
use a cheap EDIMAX (realtek8139) and host a website via it and my adsl
modem. You will require an ISP (internet service provider) to set up
your IP (internet protocol) addresses. You may have to recompile the
kernel you are using for the NIC. Good Luck!
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We specialize in multiprocessor units. 
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Re: Will KDE2 be in woody?

2000-05-19 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 10:44:55 +0200, Kjetil Ødegaard wrote:
> it probably means that the package is obsolete; IIRC, there were KDE .debs
> before the licensing issues were brought up. (the QT license is not
> considered a `free license' by the Debian project, so it cannot be
> included in Debian.)

The licensing issue is more subtle than that; see
http://www.debian.org/News/1998/19981008 .

The essence of the licensing issue is the incompatibility between KDE's
license (the GPL) and Qt's license (be it the non-free license for Qt1 or
the free QPL for Qt2).

Ray
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RE: DSL and DEBIAN

2000-05-19 Thread Alec Smith
Be careful though, not all providers use an external "modem". I know that
here in Ohio, Ameritech uses an internal PCI adapter. As far as I know,
Linux doesn't support these internal adapters.




On Fri, 19 May 2000, Paul McHale wrote:

> DSL is typically connected to you computers via network.  The protocol is
> TCP/IP which is supported by all Linux, Unix and Windows distributions.  You
> should have no problem.  You just have to configure you computers for IP,
> Netmask and Gateway.  The gateway IP will be the IP of you DSL router.
> 
> 
> 
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>   -Original Message-
>   From: Ben Babich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 10:24 AM
>   To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>   Subject: DSL and DEBIAN
> 
> 
>   Hi,
>   does anyone know if there is support for dsl within debian or redhat?
> 
>   If not, will it be in the plan for the next release?
> 
>   Regards,
> 
>   Ben
> 



Digest mailing list #543 ?

2000-05-19 Thread Guido Bozzetto
The last message that arrived to me is the 
   Volume 100 : Issue 543
that arrived without topics index :-(

Is this correct or there are problems ?

Thank you, Guido.
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Hard Drive Upgrade

2000-05-19 Thread Daniel J. Kruszyna
Hello,

I just recently upgraded the hard drive on my Debian machine (an intel box
running potato), and while everything copied successfully, I could not get
the new hard disk to boot.  I then changed my lilo.conf to point to
"/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14" instead of the symlink at "/vmlinuz", and
everythinig worked fine.  Does anyone know what's going on here?  How
come lilo doesn't recognize the symlink like it did before?  If you
any more information, just let me know.  Thanks.


-- Daniel Kruszyna




Re: init - autostarts

2000-05-19 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
> all that "starting syslogd", "starting inetd" etc
> when you're booting, it's controlled by init, right?
> 
> how do i tell it not to start the things I'd rather 
> not be running?
> 
man update-rc.d

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