Re: Debian Parte 2
Se me olvidaba, si queres compilar el núcleo podes hacerlo facilmente con los siguientes paquetes instalados kernel-package #y secuaces bin86#necesario para pc automount #lo estoy empezando a usar estos días autofs# ídem anterior bzip2 #te ahorras unos minutos bajando paquetes .bz2 ya sabes kernel-source-2.x.x#la versión que tengas esta bien para empezar. En corellinux tenes la 2.2.12. Ojo no es necesario (creo) que sea .deb este paquete, podes usar el núcleo que quieras, preferiblemente uno 2.2.x que corre formidablemente bien en slink. Mejor dicho utiliza un 2.2.16 que es lo ultimo a no ser que ya este el 2.4 pero no te recomiendo este sino hasta que estés ducho pues podría fallarte uno que otro paquete. en www.debian.org podes ver las ultimas incongruencias con el núcleo 2.2.x (slink salio cuasi para correr núcleos 2.2.x) te recomiendo que no le trates de meter lo ultimo (eso lo puede explicar un debianero ducho) pues esa cosa de las dependencias es jodida y se puede solucionar únicamente (por lo menos eso me pasa a mi) con la ultima cuasi-distro, cuasi-oficial, cuasi-estable, etc. Potato. Imagino que ya manejas dselect. Hay otro paquete que se llama apt y ese es fiero para hacer las cosas. Es una de las joyas de debian. Son estos excelentes frentes para instalar paquetes (y todo lo que encierra esto) La compilación del núcleo es breve cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.x.x make menuconfig Ya sabes que hacer aquí make-kpkg clean make-kpkg --revision 1 kernel-image cd .. dpkg -i kernel* re-arrancas el sistema y listo Los detalles te los pillas poco a poco (si venís de slackware ya sabes como es la cosa de los detalles) para eso esta la lista. Recomendación especial: Mucho cuidado con ponerte a ver todos los paquetes que tenes a tu disposición en la distro. Perfectamente te podes quedar pegado a la PC con tanto a la mano (no te imaginas la felicidad que me dio cuando me di cuenta que cumpliendo dependencias se puede instalar lo que se desee solo con oprimir + en dselect). Y además sé la cantidad de paquetes que vienen con slackware 7.0 y ya pasaste por eso algún día Bueno no mas pajarilla pues todavía no soy ni proyecto de embrión de usuario debian. Suerte y pulso.
Desactivar la secuencia Ctrl + Alt + Del.
Hola, alguien podría indicarme si es posible evitar que un pc con Debian 2.2 se reinicie al apretar la combinación de teclas Ctrl + Alt + Del, pues he mirado en /etc y no he visto nada. Gracias.
Re: Desactivar la secuencia Ctrl + Alt + Del.
On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 09:20:14AM +0200, Moragues Ram?n, Antonio wrote: Hola, alguien podría indicarme si es posible evitar que un pc con Debian 2.2 se reinicie al apretar la combinación de teclas Ctrl + Alt + Del, pues he mirado en /etc y no he visto nada. Dale un vistazo al fichero /etc/inittab. Have a nice day ;-) TooManySecrets
Re: your mail
On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 06:41:52PM +0200, Jaume Sabater wrote: ¿Alguien ha configurado 2 discos IDE en RAID 0? He mirado de bajarme los paquetes del raid (raidtools) y me dice que si quiero usar el nuevo estilo necesito librerias, mientras que si quiero usar el viejo... En fin, que me he instalado el raidtools viejo estilo. Ahorita me encuentro en que tengo un directorio vacio en el /etc, tengo el /usr/include/raid.h, y ya tá; y no tengo ni un manual de cómo hacer raid 0. Eso si, tengo un fastástico raid how to, pero no se por dónde empezar... Supongo que tendria que tener una table dentro del /etc/raid describiendo las unidades raid qué discos tiene... Por lo que se, raid 0 no es redundante, por lo que si se me jode un disco se me joroba todo el raid enterito :-(. ¿Es realmente estable el raid 0? ¿Hay alguna paranoia que deba saber? Tienes que pillarte unos parches para el kernel 2.2, y entonces (y sólo entonces), podrás instalar el RAID. Yo tengo un RAID5 con tres discos UWSCSI2 de 9'1 Gb, y me va de muerte en un servidor HP Netserver 2000. Tendrías que montarte (que puedes) un RAID1. Mírate bien el HOWTO (que lo tienes muy bien explicado en castellano en lucas.hispalinux.es), porque tendrías que compilar el kernel con ciertas opciones para el RAID, y NO PONERLAS bajo ninguna circunstancia como módulo. Haciendo lo que allí te indica, podrás poner el sistema para que te arranque el sistema desde el RAID, y no tener que usar un tercer disco para poner el sistema/boot. Empieza por pillarte el HOWTO y ya verás que fácil es, y funciona de maravilla... :))) Have a nice day ;-) TooManySecrets
Disco duro 20G
Hola: Acabo de comprarme un disco duro Seagate de 20G. Existe algun tipo de incompatibilidad con linux? Hay que darle al kernel algun soporte especia? Gracias. Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia User:104420 E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.airtel.net/personal/califa11 E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNU/Hurd Debian Potato-2.2.15 (Frozen)
Cambiando el CD de Potato en el dselect
Hola a todos Estoy intentando instalar mySQL en potato. Parece ser que el paquete se encuentra en el cuarto CD (mysql-server_3.22.32-3.deb). Cuando intento cambiar la fuente de los paquetes en el dselect me hace unas preguntas acerca de los directorios en donde se encuentran los paquetes. Las preguntas que hace son: P1: Insert de CD-ROM and enter block device name:[/dev/hdc] P1: Distribution top level: P1: Enter contrib binary dir: P1: Where is the contrib packages files: P1: Enter non-US binary dir: P1: Enter local binary dir: ?Que deberia responder? He intentado con todas las respuestas que he podido pero no consigo que dselect los cargue. Un saludo a todo el mundo y gracias. Antxon Alonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] DBnet Informatica Comunicaciones P.D.:Soy nuevo en esto de Linux y Debian, disculpad si es una pregunta rebuznante.
Re: Disco duro 20G
Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia wrote: Acabo de comprarme un disco duro Seagate de 20G. Existe algun tipo de incompatibilidad con linux? Hay que darle al kernel algun soporte especia? Gracias. Yo instalé recientemente potato en un disco de 20G (en un ordenador dual Pentium III 650Mhz) y no tuve que hacer nada especial. Jaime Villate (P.D. para quienes conozcais a quark y a ORCA, os cuento que el ordenador de que hablo va a substituir a quark mañana, y tendrá 33G para llenarlos de proyectos libres; ¿ideas?)
Re: con los MTA's
El jue, 27 de jul de 2000, a las 10:46:14 +0100, Ricardo Javier Cardenes Medina dijo: Debian es la distro que menos problemas he visto que haya dado al instalar el qmail. La instalación es chorra-chorra. La configuración es chorra-chorra. Y si hay problemas, #qmail en el irc-hispano y tienes www.es.qmail.org, con lista de correo para usuarios problemáticos X) (más en bandeja no se te puede poner) pues yo ayer cambié de sendmail a postfix y estoy más contento que unas castañuelas, aunque aun tengo unos problemillas... salu2! -- ANTENA3 TV = MANIPULACION DE INFORMACION (=Telefonica). Telefonica - (N., sin acento) Dícese de la compañía de teléfonos que usando las líneas pagadas por todos los españoles nos estafa cada día con precios abusivos y conexiones dignas de países del tercer mundo. Ver también: monopolio, gobierno, PP, Az-nar y retraso tecnológico. _-_ | NoP / Compiler -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |---| | POWERED BY - Linux RedHat 6.0 - Reg. User #74.821 | | http://web.jet.es/s.romero | ~-~
Configuración de exim
Hola a todos: El vie, 28 jul 2000, Fernando escribió: Julián Armando Mena Zapata wrote: Me podrían dar la forma rapida de de-suscribirme y suscribirme a la lista. La forma mas rapida de de-subscribirte la tienes aqui. :-) Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null La forma mas facil de subscribirte es en la propia pagina web de debian. Ah para eso es que sirve exim. Que vaina yo no tengo configurado el exim pues no tengo la menor idea de como hacerlo. Alguien me podría decir como configurar exim. Para mover correo en una maquina con múltiples usuarios y ¿Sera que el sabe que correo mandar afuera y cual mandar adentro? hay tengo ese programa para configuración (siempre le he metido la opción 5) A entre otras, ya me desuscribi y me suscribí. (para la_dirección_que_aparece, Asunto unsubscribe). Justifico mi pregunta de como de-suscribirme dado que mi conexión a Internet es malisima y meterme a buscar la pagina guia me demoraría mínimo 10 minutos solamente buscándola.
Re: Monitor Plug Pray y sus modelines
El jueves 27 de julio de 2000 a la(s) 18:46:03 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] contaba: Ya sé que los tiros van por ahí pero en el XF86Setup le pongo los modos 800x600 y al salir me los mantiene como estaban. ¿Es cosa del plug and pray o qué? Es cosa de que al salir, te intenta arrancar el servidor X, y si no lo consigue, no te graba el XF86Config. Prueba a intentarlo con xf86config, como ya te indicaron otros listeros. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just do it. David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]Linux 2.2.15 - Reg. User #87069 Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgpJPZnipmZRP.pgp Description: PGP signature
solamente ponga una hoja de papel
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¿Cómo actualizo con apt por internes?
Saludos. Me acabo de poner tarifa ondulada, y me gustaría actualizarme con apt a la potato. He añadido las siguientes líneas a mi sources.list: deb ftp://ftp.es.debian.org debian/dists/potato/contrib/binary-i386/ deb ftp://ftp.es.debian.org debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/ deb ftp://ftp.es.debian.org debian/dists/potato/non-free/binary-i386/ y tras haber hecho un update, intento hacer un upgrade pero cuando intenta copiar un archivo dice: Get:8 ftp://ftp.es.debian.org debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/ mount 2.10f-5.1 [85.3kB] Err ftp://ftp.es.debian.org debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/ mount 2.10f-5.1 Unable to fetch file, server said '/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/base/mount_2.10f-5.1.deb: No such file or directory ' Los archivos están ahí, con un wget los recojo. Leyendo los mans, me entero de que hay que añadir no-se-qué script de autentificación al apt.conf (que por cierto, no tengo). Dicho y hecho copio el que me encuentro en /usr/doc/apt/examples y le quito lo que no necesito. Finalmente cambio los user y password por anonymous y mi dirección de email. Ejecuto de nuevo y el mismo mensaje. ¿Puede ayudarme alguien con esto? Es que ni si quiera voy a poder actualizarme el propio apt :) Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://gradha.infierno.org Other web pages: http://glub.ehu.es/ - http://welcome.to/gogosoftware/
Re: ps2 psaux
Para iniciar alguien tiene un modules que me regale para tener idea. Mejor mirate el man que es algo complicadillo. ¿ Para que sirve PGP.? Es un sistema de encriptación que se usa normalmente para firmar tus email, de forma que se pueda asegurar que es tuyo, y otra para encriptarlo, y que solo el destinatario - que debería tener una clave de desencriptación - pueda leerlo ¿ Que significa kernel-headers? ¿Especialmente que viene a ser headers? los hearders son archivos intrínsecos a el lenguaje c. Ahí se definen muchas cosas que hacen falta si quieres compilar ( para compilar son imprescindibles, si no quieres compilar son inútiles ). -- Saludos a tos tos Javier Fafián Alvarez | Te pasas la vida haciendo planes, en un AMD-K6II a 350| pero la vida ya tiene sus RAM 64 Mb kernel 2.2.16 | propios planes ... Con Linux Debian Potato (frozen) T3 ! | -- JFA --
Re: ¿Cómo actualizo con apt por internes?
Yo me actualicé de una debian slink bastante estándar a potato hace un par de semanas con la tarifa semiplana de retevisión + eresmas. La actualización necesitaba descargar unos 200 MB y tardó unas 14 horas nocturnas (de fin de semana). Todo fue muy bien. 1. desde Slink usé este fichero /etc/apt/source.list # ¡Ojo! ¡el orden importa! # poner primero las fuentes de paquetes que se usarán con prefrerencia deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US frozen non-US/contrib non-US/main non-US/non-free # SOURCE deb-src ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/debian potato main contrib non-free deb-src ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/debian-non-US potato non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free # KDE deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde/debian/ potato kde contrib # Helix Gnome deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main 2. #apt-get update 3. #apt-get dist-upgrade No necesité ninguna configuración en apt.conf (nada de autentificación). Notas: - Ten disponible suficiente espacio libre en la partición donde esté /var/cache/apt/archives - Si quieres un registro de la actualización: #script dist-upgrade.log #apt-get upgrade #apt-get -q dist-upgrade Saludos. Jesús Ruiz On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 08:27:25PM +0200, Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz wrote: Saludos. Me acabo de poner tarifa ondulada, y me gustaría actualizarme con apt a la potato. He añadido las siguientes líneas a mi sources.list: deb ftp://ftp.es.debian.org debian/dists/potato/contrib/binary-i386/ deb ftp://ftp.es.debian.org debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/ deb ftp://ftp.es.debian.org debian/dists/potato/non-free/binary-i386/ y tras haber hecho un update, intento hacer un upgrade pero cuando intenta copiar un archivo dice: Get:8 ftp://ftp.es.debian.org debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/ mount 2.10f-5.1 [85.3kB] Err ftp://ftp.es.debian.org debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/ mount 2.10f-5.1 Unable to fetch file, server said '/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/base/mount_2.10f-5.1.deb: No such file or directory ' Los archivos están ahí, con un wget los recojo. Leyendo los mans, me entero de que hay que añadir no-se-qué script de autentificación al apt.conf (que por cierto, no tengo). Dicho y hecho copio el que me encuentro en /usr/doc/apt/examples y le quito lo que no necesito. Finalmente cambio los user y password por anonymous y mi dirección de email. Ejecuto de nuevo y el mismo mensaje. ¿Puede ayudarme alguien con esto? Es que ni si quiera voy a poder actualizarme el propio apt :) Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://gradha.infierno.org Other web pages: http://glub.ehu.es/ - http://welcome.to/gogosoftware/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Java 2 Enterprise Edition para Debian
Alguno tiene idea si ya existe? En java.sun.com esta la versión para Redhat 6.0 solamente. Y la verdad es que tendría que sentarme a configurar el alien... ;-)
Re: ¿Cómo actualizo con apt por internes?
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yo me actualicé de una debian slink bastante estándar a potato hace un par de semanas con la tarifa semiplana de retevisión + eresmas. La actualización necesitaba descargar unos 200 MB y tardó unas 14 horas nocturnas (de fin de semana). 1. desde Slink usé este fichero /etc/apt/source.list Bingo. Lo que estaba mal era el path de los ficheros. Había incluído todo, cuando parece ser que apt es más listo y lo hace el solito. Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://gradha.infierno.org Other web pages: http://glub.ehu.es/ - http://welcome.to/gogosoftware/
Configuração de rede
Estou com uma instalação velha do 2.1 que não queria refazer, mas está sem as configurações de rede... provavelmente à época nem foram feitas. Não querendo reinstalar, procurei por algum script netconf ou netconfig, e não encontrei. Existe um script que possa reexecutar a parte de configuração de rede do instalador do Debian? Ou vou ter de fazer tudo na mão? Obrigado! --_ / \ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra +55 (11) 246 96 07 resl \ / Amdocs Brasil Ltda, Sao Paulo +55 (11) 3040 4724 coml X http://www.terravista.pt/Enseada/1989/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ Campanha fita ASCII, contra correio HTML BRASIL
Re: Configura o de rede
Estou com uma instalação velha do 2.1 que não queria refazer, mas está sem as configurações de rede... provavelmente à época nem foram feitas. Não querendo reinstalar, procurei por algum script netconf ou netconfig, e não encontrei. Existe um script que possa reexecutar a parte de configuração de rede do instalador do Debian? Ou vou ter de fazer tudo na mão? Não tenho certeza onde estava este script, mas como é executado numa instalaçâo nova, deveria estar com as fontes por exemplo dos boot floppies. Por outra parte não é muito complicado a reconfiguração. No slink, pode configurar as interfaces e rotas em /etc/network (acho lembrar), então falta /etc/hostname /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/host.conf (provavelmente pouca mudança) e /etc/hosts. As outras coisas como um servidor DNS, apache, etc., terá que reconfigurar manualmente em qualquer caso. Como o Linux é bastante limpo nas configurações, pode fazer find /etc -type f | xargs grep endereço IP velho ou nome para encontrar outros arquivos que mencionem os valores velhos. Lembra que para o grep pode precisar escapar os pontos find /etc -type f | xargs grep '192\.168\.1\.1' Pode ser melhor passar o resultado por less, porque alguns arquivos binarios tambem guardam o nome/IP (por exemplo do Emacs) HTH Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: web server suggestions
Sven Burgener wrote: Hi all Sorry for this being so highly off-topic, forgive me; I need the infos. (It's just that debian lists are an excellent resort for information) I'd like some infos from people who've had experience with this: What web server software is in your opinion best for running on an NT machine? (Yes, NT) -- For reasons of compatibility and ease of maintainence, I strongly suggest staying with IIs or some other server designed for NT. It (NT) has enough problems without trying to get it to do something that Microsoft has effectively tried to keep folks from doing (using open source software). (How) does Apache run on NT? It runs fine, but the windows version is not as robust as the Linux/Unix etc. version. Plus, you will need to install some type of Perl (ActiveState) to get it to do anything worthwhile. The reason I'm posting this, though, is, that a friend of mine needs the infos, so I'll send any replies straight back to him. Tell your friend to check out the Apache and the ActiveState web site for explicit info. -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
Starting/Stopping SCSI HD's
Hi I have a Debian Slink 486DX4-100, with 1Gb IDE and 2GB SCSI II hard disks (hda and sda) partitioned and mounted on /, /usr, /home, /var, and /usr/local. I also have a 420Mb SCSI II hard disk (sdb) which has no fixed mount point, but which I am using to store stuff I don't access frequently, eg, moving downloaded *.deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives. I leave my box running Debian all the time, day+night, and the 1Gb IDE and 2Gb SCSI disks are fairly modern, and very quiet, but this 420Mb disk consumes a fair amount of power, and sounds like a large aircraft taking off. I have configured this drive to respond to the start/stop unit SCSI command, and configured the Host Adapter (PCI AHA 2940 fast SCSI II) to send the start unit command to this drive during system boot. What I need to know now, is (how) can I send the start/stop unit command when Linux is running, so I can keep the thing spun down when is not mounted (which is most of the time), and only send the command to spin it up again when I need to mount it. I know that you can do this in FreeBSD, (which I run on another PC), the command is camcontrol stop [channel:device-id:LUN] or camcontrol start [channel:device-id:LUN]. I presume there is also a way I can do this in Linux? What packages (if any) will I need to add using Dselect? Hope someone can help (and I can take out these earplugs :-) Simon Hales
Re: debian- or linux- friendly hardware vendors?
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 06:25:35PM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: Can anyone recommend hardware vendors who will do things like put together a machine that is completely linux-compatible, or ship me a machine with debian or some other linux already installed, if only as a proof of compatibility? I've seen one or two of these places on the web, so I know they do exist.. -chris Lots of places. My personal favorite is ASL Workstations (http://www.aslab.com/). They ship Mandrake on it (icky) not Debian, but, then, I reformat and reinstall everything anyway. -- Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor. Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day. Netscum, Bane of Elves.
RE: web server suggestions
A good cross-platform webserver is Orion (www.orionserver.com). It's 100% pure java, so it runs on any Java2 platform. Forget Perl, forget ASP, do Servlets and JSP. Performance is excellent. -Original Message- From: frosty [mailto:frosty]On Behalf Of John Foster Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 6:04 AM To: Sven Burgener Cc: Debian ISP; Debian Users Subject: Re: web server suggestions Sven Burgener wrote: Hi all Sorry for this being so highly off-topic, forgive me; I need the infos. (It's just that debian lists are an excellent resort for information) I'd like some infos from people who've had experience with this: What web server software is in your opinion best for running on an NT machine? (Yes, NT) -- For reasons of compatibility and ease of maintainence, I strongly suggest staying with IIs or some other server designed for NT. It (NT) has enough problems without trying to get it to do something that Microsoft has effectively tried to keep folks from doing (using open source software). (How) does Apache run on NT? It runs fine, but the windows version is not as robust as the Linux/Unix etc. version. Plus, you will need to install some type of Perl (ActiveState) to get it to do anything worthwhile. The reason I'm posting this, though, is, that a friend of mine needs the infos, so I'll send any replies straight back to him. Tell your friend to check out the Apache and the ActiveState web site for explicit info. -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: gnome
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 03:17:59PM +, Christopher Clark wrote: As user chris I have an .xsession as follows: #!/bin/sh panel gmc #exec sawmill gnome-session which seems to work ( potato cycle 1 ) but hangs on exit with no 'save etc window' Hmm, not sure what the problem is, but to jump start GNOME in the past, I've used: #! /bin/sh xterm exec gnome-session Then from the xterm, I started a window manager, panel and gmc (if you like). Check the gnome-control-center to see what it says about the window manager, gmc and panel. They all should be set for restart/recycle or some such. As user cgc I have an .xsession with just: gnome-session which seems to work ok If I remove all the other bits from user chris, I don't get the icons or the bottom toolbar. I am confused. Also, how do I add themes to sawmill? From gnome, it dosen't recognise sawmill themes and wont even transfer to an . directory i.e. .sawmill to select a theme. regards Chris You should have a /usr/share/sawmill/version/themes/ . Apparently that would be the place to unpack a *.tgz file. A lot of applications (but certainly not all) have non-changing resource files in /usr/share/app. -- According to MegaHAL: The emu is a mass of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace.
Re: chroot bind in debian
On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 05:11:58PM +0300, Pavel M. Penev wrote:
No other documentation than dpkg(8) and chroot(8) :). I myself have been
running bind in a chroot-ed environment (it really had a nasty security
hole). What I did was:
1. cd to the chroot point
2. tar xvfz
debian_dist_dir/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/base2_1.tgz
3. dpkg --instdir=chroot_point -G -i bind_...
And then set up some other utilities needed by bind
(e.g. sendmail, (ana)cron, ...).
what?! bind needs sendmail and cron? thats news to me.
you don't need NEARY as much crud in your chroot jail as you have
done, all you need is the following:
add a user and group named uid/gid 104 or so.
/var/named mode root.named 0750
/var/named/dev mode root.root 0755
/var/named/dev/null mode root.root 0666
/var/named/dev/log (do this by changing SYSLOGD= to SYSLOGD=-a
/var/named/dev/log in /etc/init.d/sysklogd)
/var/named/var/ mode root.root 755
/var/named/var/tmp mode 1770 root.named
/var/named/var/cache mode root.root 755
/var/named/var/cache/bind mode 1770 root.named
/var/named/var/run mode root.named 0770
/var/named/etc mode root.root 0755
/var/named/etc/bind mode root.named 0750
/var/named/etc/localtime mode root.root 0644
/var/named/usr mode root.root 0755
/var/named/usr/sbin mode root.root 0755
/var/named/usr/sbin/named mode root.root 0755
/var/named/usr/sbin/named-xfer mode root.root 0755
/var/named/lib mode root.root 0755
/var/named/lib/ld-linux.so.2 mode root.root 0755
/var/named/lib/libc.so.6 mode root.root 0755
i also rewrote the bind initscript to automatically update the chroot
environment, that way when the debian bind (or libc) package is
upgraded and bind is restarted the updated binaries are copied into
the chroot jail. i also run it as named.named instead of root.root of
course.
i had to rewrite the stop part of the initscript since
start-stop-daemon is funny about chrooted processes.
and ndc cannot seem to restart bind properly when chrooted, it always
ends up running as root, non-chrooted.
i have been running this configuration for a couple months now with no
problems.
--- /etc/init.d/bindSat Nov 27 13:25:50 1999
+++ bindThu Jul 27 21:00:21 2000
@@ -4,26 +4,61 @@
test -x /usr/sbin/named || exit 0
+## set resource limits
+
+ulimit -d 8192
+ulimit -l 4096
+ulimit -m 16384
+ulimit -n 80
+ulimit -s 8192
+ulimit -u 30
+ulimit -v 16384
+ulimit -c 0
+
+## setup chroot env.
+
+fail()
+{
+/usr/bin/logger -i -s -p daemon.warn bind chroot failed, bind not started
+return 1
+}
+
+if [ $1 != reload ] ; then
+umask 022
+cp -fp /usr/sbin/named /var/named/usr/sbin/ || fail || exit 1
+cp -fp /usr/sbin/named-xfer /var/named/usr/sbin || fail || exit 1
+cp -fp /lib/libc.so.6 /var/named/lib || fail || exit 1
+cp -fp /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /var/named/lib || fail || exit 1
+cp -fp /etc/localtime /var/named/etc || fail || exit 1
+fi
+
+test -x /var/named/usr/sbin/named || exit 1
+
+DAEMON=/var/named/usr/sbin/named
+ARGS=-u named -g named -t /var/named
+PIDFILE=/var/named/var/run/named.pid
+
case $1 in
start)
echo -n Starting domain name service: named
- start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec /usr/sbin/named
+ start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec $DAEMON -- $ARGS
echo .
;;
stop)
echo -n Stopping domain name service: named
- start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet \
- --pidfile /var/run/named.pid --exec /usr/sbin/named
+ start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile $PIDFILE
echo .
;;
restart)
- /usr/sbin/ndc restart
+ $0 stop
+ sleep 1
+ $0 start
;;
reload)
- /usr/sbin/ndc reload
+ /usr/sbin/ndc -c /var/named/var/run/ndc reload
;;
force-reload)
@@ -37,3 +72,4 @@
esac
exit 0
+
--
Ethan Benson
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
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Re: [why is kernel recompilation necessary?]
Krzys Majewski wrote: Hm, I guess my question was unclear. What I'm wondering about is how the linux kernel works and how the windows kernel works. I know that one of them is open source and the other isn't. At the same time I'm too lazy to dig deeply for this information. So I guess I was hoping someone would post an answer like, The windows kernel maps a piece of memory to an adapter on the motherboard, and the drivers sit in that memory or The linux kernel has hooks for every possible module, and these hooks do/don't have to be explicitly compiled in every time a new module is installed, etc. -chris This touches on a question that popped into my head the other day, so if I may be permitted to add to Chris' question When you do a make menuconfig (or one of the other methods), and you specify to include support for, say, a 3c905 NIC, as a module, are you doing anything to the kernel, or are you just making changes to a script to tell it to compile the module? In other words, does the make menuconfig do one thing (specify what the kernel will look like including modules/hooks to modules), or does it do two things (specify what the kernel will look like (without any hooks to the modules) and what module code needs to be compiled/installed)? In still other words, can you do the following? * use make menuconfig today to specify kernel options for a minimal kernel, and not mark module stuff like NICs and sound cards, etc, * then make dep and make zImage to compile the kernel, * then boot off that kernel and run for a day or two * then come back in a day or two and re-run make menuconfig and specify some modules * then make modules and make modules_install without compiling the kernel * resulting in a working kernel that can use the modules compiled a day or two later In still other words, can you use make menuconfig to compile a minimal kernel and then add modules later from whatever source even though you didn't tell the kernel to expect these modules when you did the make menuconfig. Thanks!
Re: StarOffice issues
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 09:24:38PM +0200, Erik van der Meulen wrote: Hi Group. I have installed StarOffice 5.2 and have two questions: - After installation it indicates that no Java support is found. If I open a Java web-page, I get error messages. I would like to know if there is a Debian package which I can use, or an alternative? - StarOffice seems a genuine memory hog. I have a 128 Mb laptop, all gets eaten if I start SO. Also, performance of the system degrades quite a bit. If I do a 'ps aux' I notice quite a few instances of SO around. Is this expected behavour? Other than that, very impressed with StarOffice! jdk1.1 stuff seems to work with SO5.1. Can't say how well since that program is much too huge and slow for my general liking (or my computer's!). -- According to MegaHAL: The emu is a mass of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace.
Re: same debian, new hardware?
Krzys Majewski wrote: Again on the subject of buying new hardware, I'm looking for a good way to copy my existing setup to the new machine. So far I can think of three main types of options. In order of decreasing popularity, they are: first three snipped 4) Physically install the old hard drives in the new machine. I recently went from a Pentium 166 to a PII 300, and the route I took was number 4. My hard drives are both IDE, but I do have a SCSI CDROM drive. Everything went just fine. I did later recompile the kernel for the PII, but I doubt it was really necessary. However, in the process of recompiling the kernel I redid some of the other peripherals to get them working better, or in the case of the sound card to get it working at all. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and | everything is of great understanding, '91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom.
Re: why is kernel recompilation necessary?
Sean == Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sean if you compile a kernel once with all the odd devices as Sean modules you get the equivalent of how windows works. ... except you don't need to reboot just to load/unload a driver. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [why is kernel recompilation necessary?]
Kent == Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kent In still other words, can you use make menuconfig to Kent compile a minimal kernel and then add modules later from Kent whatever source even though you didn't tell the kernel to Kent expect these modules when you did the make menuconfig. I have done just that. That is, built modules for the kernel at a latter date. I think you need to be careful that the kernel version is the same though... I consider modules (don't take my word for this on accuracy) to be just the same as shared libraries, only for the kernel instead of user level processes. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [why is kernel recompilation necessary?]
Woo, so I can just do a make xconfig make modules make modules_install instead of make xconfig make dep make clean make modules make modules_install ?? -chris On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Matthew Dalton wrote: By reasoning I would assume that all the kernel has is a 'generic module hook' that you can load any module into. Therefore, your sequence above should work. If it did not, how would you be able to use binary only modules such as the lucent winmodem driver? So in answer to your questions: Kent West wrote: When you do a make menuconfig (or one of the other methods), and you specify to include support for, say, a 3c905 NIC, as a module, are you doing anything to the kernel, or are you just making changes to a script to tell it to compile the module? You're making changes to a script. Of course, you have to compile module support into the kernel as well, otherwise it won't be able to load any modules. In still other words, can you do the following? * use make menuconfig today to specify kernel options for a minimal kernel, and not mark module stuff like NICs and sound cards, etc, * then make dep and make zImage to compile the kernel, * then boot off that kernel and run for a day or two * then come back in a day or two and re-run make menuconfig and specify some modules * then make modules and make modules_install without compiling the kernel * resulting in a working kernel that can use the modules compiled a day or two later As long as you say yes to module support, yes. In still other words, can you use make menuconfig to compile a minimal kernel and then add modules later from whatever source even though you didn't tell the kernel to expect these modules when you did the make menuconfig. Yes. That's how binary-only modules work. Matthew -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: [why is kernel recompilation necessary?]
Yes! -chris On 27 Jul 2000, John Hasler wrote: Krzys Majewski writes: The whole point of my post was to not have to read 17 web pages! Why? Do you find learning painful? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: repeated installations
Hi! Hi. I am installing Debian over a network, and here's my question: is there a way to replicate a Debian installation? This is what I'm looking for: * I install Debian in a machine (a) * I personalize the packages I want/don't want at machine (a) * After that, I want to install the same packages at machine (b) Right now the only way I know to do this is to manually repeat all the steps on machine (b). Is there a way to create a machine (a) task or something similar? Hi! The easy way to do that is: dpkg --get-selections 'file'on machine (a), customize 'file' copy 'file' to machine (b), dpkg --set-selections 'file'on machine (b). After that type apt-get install on machine (b). Hope, that helps. --Pap Tibor
Re: Keyboard troubles...
On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 03:50:29AM +0200, Christian Pernegger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 How can I configure my box to work correctly with a German keyboard? [snip] I'll gladly accept even an RTFM if you tell me which one. :) there is a german-howto. try setting $LANG to de_DE there is also a german [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. Schoen Gruesse nach Oesterreich. -- Thomas Guettler Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.interface-business.de Private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://yi.org/guettli
Re: why is kernel recompilation necessary?
Krzys Majewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/07/2000 (00:29) : Why is it that under Windows or whatever I don't have to recompile the kernel just to add a new driver? Is it a protection thing? Or an optimization thing? Or something else? -chris Usually you don't have to recompile your kernel under Linux. Just use the kernel-package that contains the kernel with all the modules you need. I guess you could recompile your Windows kernel too _if_ you have access to the Windows source files and own a compiler. -- Preben Randhol -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ +---+ There was, I think, never any reason to believe in any innate | ! | superiority of the male, except his superior muscle. +---+ -- Bertrand Russell, Ideas That Have Harmed Mankind (1950)
Re: char-major-6
[snip] 6 is the major device number for the parallel ports (ie. printer). Where can I find out which device fits to a given number? -- Thomas Guettler Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.interface-business.de Private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://yi.org/guettli
Re: char-major-6
Thomas Guettler wrote : [snip] 6 is the major device number for the parallel ports (ie. printer). Where can I find out which device fits to a given number? In the kernel source tree, have a look at Documentation/devices.txt -- Andrew J Cosgriff [EMAIL PROTECTED] click click
Re: [why is kernel recompilation necessary?]
Well, I *think* so. But I'm not speaking from experience, just reason. Try it and see. Krzys Majewski wrote: Woo, so I can just do a make xconfig make modules make modules_install instead of make xconfig make dep make clean make modules make modules_install ?? -chris
meaning of .nfsXYZ files?
Just found several .nfsXYZ.. files in my directory. Does anybody know what they are for? Manpage of nfs tells me nothing about them. -- Thomas Guettler Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.interface-business.de Private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://yi.org/guettli
Re: gnome
On 27, jul, 2000 at 09:59:25 -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote: On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 03:17:59PM +, Christopher Clark wrote: As user chris I have an .xsession as follows: #!/bin/sh panel gmc #exec sawmill gnome-session which seems to work ( potato cycle 1 ) but hangs on exit with no 'save etc window' Hmm, not sure what the problem is, but to jump start GNOME in the past, I've used: #! /bin/sh xterm exec gnome-session Then from the xterm, I started a window manager, panel and gmc (if you like). Check the gnome-control-center to see what it says about the window manager, gmc and panel. They all should be set for restart/recycle or some such. That is tha hard way to do it, you should only need to start a gnome-session, and the you can add and delete start-up programs from gnomecc session capplet. By default panel, gmc and a few other things should start up, and I think something is broken if it doesn't. Just my .02 euro Morten -- UNIX, reach out and grep someone!
About ReiserFS for Debian (and others).
Hi all Some days ago I asked about running Debian on ReiserFS, and was told it could be done. That was true, I now have installed Debian on ReiserFS, and written a little piece about it on: http://home1.stofanet.dk/liebach/reiserfs.html. Enjoy! Morten -- UNIX, reach out and grep someone!
Re: LILO troubles
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Jason Schepman wrote: I'm having LILO problems. I'm pretty sure that my config file is correct. When I try to boot, my screen fills up with 1's and 0's. please advise, thanks. Do you have any rescue floppies? Just try first to boot with those and see your lilo config anyway... hvirtane
Re: same debian, new hardware?
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 06:03:41PM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: 4) Physically install the old hard drives in the new machine. 4) This would be nice, but can it be done? My hard drives are old and small. Sure. Also they are sitting on a SCSI card, is this a good thing or a bad thing? The SCSI card is probably ISA, can I stick it in a new machine and hope it will work? If someone can suggest how to make this work then I would It should. The main thing I can think of that would stop it would be resource conflicts, but you should be able to reconfigure to avoid them. An approach you didn't mention would be to keep both machines running and network them then copy and share things over the network. I know this is a linux forum, but I'm also interested in moving Windows to the new machine. Presumably this means I have to reinstall it? That's probably easiest and safest thing to do. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpfDzkDsa9LQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gnome
On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:52:55AM +0200, Morten Liebach wrote: Hmm, not sure what the problem is, but to jump start GNOME in the past, I've used: #! /bin/sh xterm exec gnome-session Then from the xterm, I started a window manager, panel and gmc (if you like). Check the gnome-control-center to see what it says about the window manager, gmc and panel. They all should be set for restart/recycle or some such. That is tha hard way to do it, you should only need to start a gnome-session, and the you can add and delete start-up programs from gnomecc session capplet. By default panel, gmc and a few other things should start up, and I think something is broken if it doesn't. The operative words were jump start ;) If x-window-manager points at a non-GNOME window manager exec gnome-session doesn't behave very well, for instance. -- According to MegaHAL: The emu is a mass of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace.
Re: [why is kernel recompilation necessary?]
On 27, jul, 2000 at 09:18:07 -0500, John Hasler wrote: Krzys Majewski writes: For example, if I build a new device and write a driver for it, can I add support for this device to both windows and linux without having to modify either kernel? You can for Linux, and probably for Windows as well. In a sense you are modifying the kernel when you load a module. In windows you have to reboot to load new modules of course ... Regards Morten -- UNIX, reach out and grep someone!
Xf86 xonfig for Compaq Deskpro TFT5000
hi, i'm having very little success configuring X (v 3.3.6-10) on this compaq machine. it has matrox millenium g400 agp video card which calls for XF86_SVGA server. i got the the hsync and vsync values from the monitor spec, 32-60 and 57-85, respectively but X dies without giving any hints that i can understand. could someone who has this system and got x running send me their XF86Config? please cc me in your reply as i'm currently off the list. tia, -- Aaron Stromas| Tick-tick-tick!!!... ja, Pantani is weg... Oracle Corp | BRTN commentator +1 703.708.68.21 | L'Alpe d'Huez 1995 Tour de France
Re: Help with mail address
Hello Cam, On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Cam Ellison wrote: I can't figure out how to set my email return address to what my ISP expects. I am the only user on my system. I tried to send mail out, with no success, eventually discovering that it was using [EMAIL PROTECTED] You could configure your MTA to rewrite the mail-header fields (including your return address) automatically upon send. This way you could set it the way your ISP expects. If you use exim, install the exim-doc package and have a look at the info-files for information on how to do it. I have set EMAIL to my email address, but my ISP will still not accept a fetchmail command, saying connection refused. I have gone through alll kinds of documentation, but the Mail HOW-TO and man pages are most uninformative. Check out if you use the right protocol (POP, IMAP) (I always thought fetchmail will autodetect this, but might be, that it fails for some reason). Also check out, that you give it the correct account details (either on command line or in your .fetchmailrc). Regards, Daniel
RE: char-major-6
On 28-Jul-2000 Erik Mathisen wrote: I keep getting this stupid error in my syslog: modprobe: can't locate module char-major-6 now i searched my system, I dont have that module, how do I get this error to stop? It puts 2 or 3 entries in the log a minute. Any help would greatly be appreciated, Erik I've had the same problem, but with block-major-8 (scsi-disk). Since I don't have scsi devices, I appended an alias block-major-8 off to /etc/modutils/aliases and ran update-modules. After that I didn't get the message anymore.
Re: [why is kernel recompilation necessary?]
On 28-Jul-2000 Krzys Majewski wrote: Yes but what I'm wondering is not why linux users recompile their kernels, or why windows users can't, but how is it that windows users get away with not having to? The closest answer I got is that windows kernels have a bunch of drivers already compiled in, and any additional drivers compiled as modules. What I'm still not clear on is whether either windows or linux kernels (or both) need to have some sort of hooks enabling them to expect whatever modules at runtime, or not. For example, if I build a new device and write a driver for it, can I add support for this device to both windows and linux without having to modify either kernel? -chris First, I don't think you can compare the windows and linux kernels. Linux was designed as a monolithic unix kernel, while the windows kernel...uhm...I really don't know if it was designed at all... Second, what do you mean by modifying the windows kernel ? Disassembling and binary patching ? More seriously, the linux kernel has a module interface defined in module.h. Shortly, in your code you have to use init_module, cleanup_module, module_register_chrdev etc. As long as this interface doesn't change, you can compile your module separately and use it with any kernel version (unless you use something in your code that's specific to a certain version). If you want to know more, I suggest to read the docs dealing with the linux kernel at linuxdoc.org.
Re: why is kernel recompilation necessary?
Hello there, On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Preben Randhol wrote: Krzys Majewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/07/2000 (00:29) : Why is it that under Windows or whatever I don't have to recompile the kernel just to add a new driver? Is it a protection thing? Or an optimization thing? Or something else? -chris Usually you don't have to recompile your kernel under Linux. Just use the kernel-package that contains the kernel with all the modules you need. You don't HAVE to, but if you want a really fast, memory saving kernel, you SHOULD do it and exclude everything, you don't need. (Installation kernel was almost twice as large as the kernel I compiled by myself, as I could exclude SCSI-support and a few other things). Sure not a point of much interest on those beasts with 128 Mb RAM sold today, but on a computer with 8 Mb RAM, a large kernel eats up your vital memory. So in some way, really an optimization thing. I guess you could recompile your Windows kernel too _if_ you have access to the Windows source files and own a compiler. Right. Regards, Daniel
Changing source CD in potato
Hello I4m traying to install one package from the CD number 4 of potato (mysql-server_3.22.32-3.deb) When i try to change the source in dselect its ask me for some directories, and i don4t know what to respond. The questions are: Q1: Insert de CD-ROM and enter block device name:[/dev/hdc] Q1: Distribution top level: Q1: Enter contrib binary dir: Q1: Where is the contrib packages files: Q1: Enter non-US binary dir: Q1: Enter local binary dir: What i should to respond? I have try to many times and fails. Thanks in advance Antxon Alonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] DBnet Informatica Comunicaciones
Re: why is kernel recompilation necessary?
Daniel Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/07/2000 (12:20) : You don't HAVE to, but if you want a really fast, memory saving kernel, you SHOULD do it and exclude everything, you don't need. (Installation But of course. :-) -- Preben Randhol -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ +---+ There was, I think, never any reason to believe in any innate | ! | superiority of the male, except his superior muscle. +---+ -- Bertrand Russell, Ideas That Have Harmed Mankind (1950)
Re: gnome
On 28, jul, 2000 at 02:20:52 -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote: Hmm, not sure what the problem is, but to jump start GNOME in the past, I've used: #! /bin/sh xterm exec gnome-session Then from the xterm, I started a window manager, panel and gmc (if you like). Check the gnome-control-center to see what it says about the window manager, gmc and panel. They all should be set for restart/recycle or some such. That is tha hard way to do it, you should only need to start a gnome-session, and the you can add and delete start-up programs from gnomecc session capplet. By default panel, gmc and a few other things should start up, and I think something is broken if it doesn't. The operative words were jump start ;) If x-window-manager points at a non-GNOME window manager exec gnome-session doesn't behave very well, for instance. Oh, now I get it, the ``xterm ; exec gnome-session'' is just the first time, and then the session management is fondled into doing it as you want, right?! Then we don't disagree. Regards Morten -- UNIX, reach out and grep someone!
mounting floppy
I'm trying to mount a floppy that I made with Redhat 6.2 system. It mounted on a previous install of potato, but I reinstalled and now when I try to mount it I get the following error message: [I cannot determine the file type and none was specified] This floppy has lots of stuff on it that I would like to use for configuration, such as .rc files and such. Any suggestions on what I've done wrong or how I can get it to mount? I superformatted a floppy (although I had to use the /sbin/mke2fs -c /dev/fd0 argument) and it mounts fine, as do msdos disks. thanks dale
Re: LILO troubles
Yes. I'm able to boot from floppies. I just can't boot from the hardrive. Boot=hda. Root=hdb2(location of my / filesystem). The rest of the file is the default lilo.conf. When I run LILO, I don't get any error messages. It simply says *Added Linux. ..thanks in advance, Jason - Original Message - From: virtanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Schepman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 4:00 AM Subject: Re: LILO troubles On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Jason Schepman wrote: I'm having LILO problems. I'm pretty sure that my config file is correct. When I try to boot, my screen fills up with 1's and 0's. please advise, thanks. Do you have any rescue floppies? Just try first to boot with those and see your lilo config anyway... hvirtane -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: modules.conf vs conf.modules
Quoting Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): However, I don't have an /etc/conf.modules file on my system. I do have an /etc/conf.modules.old and an /etc/modules.conf. So my basic question still stands. Which file is to be used? The documentation mentioned above says conf.modules; the fresh install of Debian followed by an update to Potato has modules.conf. Other documentation in that directory says modules.conf. Again, there's no clear statement of which to use and why. Slink installed conf.modules, potato installed modules.conf . I don't see how the developers can be expected to change all the documentation instanteously, especially as much of it comes from upstream. (Apart from the fact that many of us have been running a mixture of both for some time.) 2.0.x uses kerneld, 2.2.x uses kmod. (That may be an oversimplification.) Again, this cuts across the slink/potato boundary, as many of us have been running 2.2 kernels on slink. Some of the documentation in this directory talks about kerneld; other seems to indicate that kmod has replaced kerneld. The one that talks about kerneld (README.kerneld.gz) says to empty out the /etc/modules files except for the line auto; wow! what brokenness that created on my system. Yes, you do need a well maintained conf.modules.conf file to be able to do that, and it's not always to your advantage for modules to be loading and unloading all the time. Wait... I just found this line in Changelog.Debian.gz: Update various scripts to note that conf.modules is now called modules.conf. This indicates that the file is indeed now called modules.conf, but gives no clue as to why. Does Debian's use of the new name conflict with some standard? I don't keep abreat of the file standards, but it does seem confusing to have two equally ranked names. I admire Debian/linux's willingness to clean up anachronisms to improve and clarify the system, rather than trying to never change anything. Can I delete my /etc/conf.modules.old file without worry? I would think so. If you're now using modules.conf, there's a one-level backup produced by update-modules called modules.conf.old as you would expect. It's only there for use by you if you made a mistake, not by the system. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: LILO troubles
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Jason Schepman wrote: Yes. I'm able to boot from floppies. I just can't boot from the hardrive. Boot=hda. Root=hdb2(location of my / filesystem). The rest of the file is the default lilo.conf. When I run LILO, I don't get any error messages. It simply says *Added Linux. ..thanks in advance, Jason So could you just copy your lilo.conf and send it. Somebody might know, what is the problem. Actually LILO doesn't work in my machine either. I never found out, what is the reason. I've got two disks and debian is on the second, win95 on the first. hvirtane
Re: PHP4 functions
Hi Alan, thanks for your idea. I tried it but it didn't work. The code I used was: ?php echo extension_loaded(mysql); echo phpinfo(); ? I get the following output from that script: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: extension_loaded() in /var/www/links/content/test.php on line 2 I also checked the phpinfo() output, the mod_php4 module for Apache is loaded and other scripts are working. These are the dselect selections for my PHP installation: *** Opt web php4 4.0b3-6 4.0b3-6 A server-side, HTML-embed *** Opt web php4-gd 4.0b3-6 4.0b3-6 GD module for php4 *** Opt web php4-imap4.0b3-6 4.0b3-6 IMAP module for php4 *** Opt web php4-mysql 4.0b3-6 4.0b3-6 MySQL module for php4 *** Opt web php4-xml 4.0b3-6 4.0b3-6 XML module for php4 Did I forget a package? Thanks for your help. Bye, Sven
Re: why is kernel recompilation necessary?
Quoting Krzys Majewski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Really? So the kernel doesn't compile any hooks for itself to enable loading latesthardwaredevice.o as a module? -chris Yes, it has to do that, but the installation kernel has those hooks compiled because it uses modules itself (e.g. for network cards, sound etc.). BUT the installation kernels have to have built-in all the drivers that anyone might need to get at their root filing system, plus anything else that still needs to be compiled as built-in (because there are people who wish to continue to use these kernels for good). Why is it that under Windows or whatever I don't have to recompile the kernel just to add a new driver? Is it a protection thing? Or an optimization thing? Or something else? It's a protection thing. Protection of their secrets. Only they can recompile from the source. Here's one of the advantages of recompilation: potato installation: -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1046612 Jun 7 17:57 vmlinuz-2.2.15 the kernel that I use on my nine machines, from old 486s to 350MHz SCSI Pentiums: -rw-r--r--1 root root 501346 Jul 7 11:40 vmlinuz-2.2.15 Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: LILO troubles
Quoting Jason Schepman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Yes. I'm able to boot from floppies. I just can't boot from the hardrive. Boot=hda. Root=hdb2(location of my / filesystem). ^ It looks as if the BIOS doesn't know how to boot from the second drive. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: LILO troubles
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, David Wright wrote: Quoting Jason Schepman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Yes. I'm able to boot from floppies. I just can't boot from the hardrive. Boot=hda. Root=hdb2(location of my / filesystem). ^ It looks as if the BIOS doesn't know how to boot from the second drive. Cheers, I'm probably having exactly the same problem. One funny thing is that Corel 1.1 (I had that here for some time) seemed to know how to boot from the second disk... so it isn't only because of BIOS. hvirtane
Re: same debian, new hardware?
Quoting Krzys Majewski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Again on the subject of buying new hardware, I'm looking for a good way to copy my existing setup to the new machine. So far I can think of three main types of options. In order of decreasing popularity, they are: 1) Reinstall everything from scratch, then copy my home directory and some conf files from the old machine to the new machine. Not a bad idea if, say, you're still on slink and are moving to potato. 3) Make binary images of the old hard drives, automagically paste these onto the new hard drive. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure this is impossible. You mention SCSI in the old box, but don't say what's the hardware in the new box. If IDE, you could install the new disk in the old machine, partition it (think about that, of course), mount it on /mnt and copy the files onto it with cd old-directory-root find -xdev | cpio -damp /mnt Then create a boot floppy, rdev the kernel to the future correct device, put the new disk in the new machine, boot it with the floppy and run lilo. 4) Physically install the old hard drives in the new machine. Make a boot floppy, move the drives, boot with the floppy, copy in the same way as above, rdev the floppy (or a copy), boot again, this time into the new drive, run lilo. Note that the rdev'ing is no longer necessary with potato because it produces a syslinux boot floppy instead of a kernel image. Therefore you can give it parameters like root=/dev/hda1 single which was not possible before. (Of course, with slink and previous, one could copy the kernel onto a rescue disk to get the same effect.) Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
who shows phantom users
Recently I have noticed (legitimate) users logged in on one of our servers with no processes running. I know for a fact that they log into the server via (open)ssh, and eventually close the ssh connection. Nonetheless, who still shows them as still logged on (as does last). On the other hand, w does not show them as logged on. Is there a way to get /var/log/wtmp to update itself? Any ideas what the cause of this might be? (ssh shutting down impoperly?) It's not a huge problem, but an annoyance. Thanks for any input -- Thomas R. Shemanske (Mailing Address) (Office/Internet Information) Department of Mathematics 203 Choate House 6188 Bradley Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dartmouth College http://www.math.dartmouth.edu/~trs/ Hanover, NH 03755-3551 (603) 646 - 3179 Directions: http://www.math.dartmouth.edu/~trs/choatehouse.html Office hours: http://www.math.dartmouth.edu/~trs/frontmatter/office.html Summer Term Office Hours: By appointment
Xfree86-4.0.1 and Enlightenment
Hi, I recently compiled x4.0.1 from source and all seemed to work well. I did this to get better accel from my tnt2. When I go to start E now I get: Xserver does not support Shape extension Your server is out of date or misconfigured Has anyone seen this error before, and if so, do you know how to correct it? Thank you, Ethan
Re: why is kernel recompilation necessary?
If 128 mb of ram is considered a beast of a machine? What class does my ½ gig of ram box fall in :) Daniel Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/00 06:22AM Hello there, On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Preben Randhol wrote: Krzys Majewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/07/2000 (00:29) : Why is it that under Windows or whatever I don't have to recompile the kernel just to add a new driver? Is it a protection thing? Or an optimization thing? Or something else? -chris Usually you don't have to recompile your kernel under Linux. Just use the kernel-package that contains the kernel with all the modules you need. You don't HAVE to, but if you want a really fast, memory saving kernel, you SHOULD do it and exclude everything, you don't need. (Installation kernel was almost twice as large as the kernel I compiled by myself, as I could exclude SCSI-support and a few other things). Sure not a point of much interest on those beasts with 128 Mb RAM sold today, but on a computer with 8 Mb RAM, a large kernel eats up your vital memory. So in some way, really an optimization thing. I guess you could recompile your Windows kernel too _if_ you have access to the Windows source files and own a compiler. Right. Regards, Daniel -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: volume control
Michael Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 27 Jul 2000, Gary Hennigan wrote: Do they work as root? Make sure you have the mixer device(s) in /dev. I don't have a Debian system handy with working sound, but my laptop (sans sound) has /dev/mixer and /dev/mixer1. If they work as root then it's just a permission problem. May be a long shot but it's worth a look. It wasn't a long shot at all. That worked! I had no idea that there was a separate mixer device. chmod 666 /dev/mixer fixed the problem. Many thanks. Too bad the apps didn't complain about a permissions problem... I'm glad that worked. The Debian Way (TM) to do this, by the way, is to: chmod 660 /dev/mixer* chown root.audio /dev/mixer* and then add the users that you want to allow access to the audio group. A lot of the things devices in /dev work this way. Gary
RE: web server suggestions
How about Jakarta-Tomcat for Servlets and JSP. Apache works very well with it . Hey, this is Linux use Apache. Adrian Thiele http://tectpd.com Tec America, Inc. Thermal Printer Division mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (770) 449-3040 ext. 177 fax: (770) 242-9992 -Original Message- From: J.T. Wenting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:31 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: web server suggestions A good cross-platform webserver is Orion (www.orionserver.com). It's 100% pure java, so it runs on any Java2 platform. Forget Perl, forget ASP, do Servlets and JSP. Performance is excellent. -Original Message- From: frosty [mailto:frosty]On Behalf Of John Foster Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 6:04 AM To: Sven Burgener Cc: Debian ISP; Debian Users Subject: Re: web server suggestions Sven Burgener wrote: Hi all Sorry for this being so highly off-topic, forgive me; I need the infos. (It's just that debian lists are an excellent resort for information) I'd like some infos from people who've had experience with this: What web server software is in your opinion best for running on an NT machine? (Yes, NT) -- For reasons of compatibility and ease of maintainence, I strongly suggest staying with IIs or some other server designed for NT. It (NT) has enough problems without trying to get it to do something that Microsoft has effectively tried to keep folks from doing (using open source software). (How) does Apache run on NT? It runs fine, but the windows version is not as robust as the Linux/Unix etc. version. Plus, you will need to install some type of Perl (ActiveState) to get it to do anything worthwhile. The reason I'm posting this, though, is, that a friend of mine needs the infos, so I'll send any replies straight back to him. Tell your friend to check out the Apache and the ActiveState web site for explicit info. -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: Changing source CD in potato
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 -Original Message- From: Antxon Alonso Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:20 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Changing source CD in potato Hello I4m traying to install one package from the CD number 4 of potato (mysql-server_3.22.32-3.deb) Ah, last time I looked there were only three binary cds in potato-i386. :) When i try to change the source in dselect its ask me for some directories, and i don4t know what to respond. 1) Set the source to apt in deselect, leave sources.list alone, quit. 2) Open /etc/apt/sources.list in your favourite editor comment out all lines that aren't. ( == Put '#' at the beginning of all lines.) 3) run apt-cdrom add, insert cd 1. - repeat for all three cds. Now apt should prompt you for the correct cd whenever you want to install something... Feel free to contact me if there's a problem! Christian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE5gYvJtxWmQklOL8URAnzWAJ9cRwgB1R98CtJxMVzjE6Et3zBb/ACeMvPh 9DmxG3b3dfHgQlTmst+jc+U= =wKov -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: LILO troubles
Quoting virtanen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, David Wright wrote: Quoting Jason Schepman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Yes. I'm able to boot from floppies. I just can't boot from the hardrive. Boot=hda. Root=hdb2(location of my / filesystem). ^ It looks as if the BIOS doesn't know how to boot from the second drive. Cheers, I'm probably having exactly the same problem. One funny thing is that Corel 1.1 (I had that here for some time) seemed to know how to boot from the second disk... so it isn't only because of BIOS. Maybe your BIOS can switch the drives and lilo hasn't been told. (I don't think I am able to do this on mine but it's no longer relevant as I don't now run mixed boxes.) Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
RE: Keyboard troubles...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 -Original Message- From: Thomas Guettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 8:45 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Keyboard troubles... On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 03:50:29AM +0200, Christian Pernegger wrote: How can I configure my box to work correctly with a German keyboard? there is a german-howto. Ah, good. try setting $LANG to de_DE This will set the system language to German, complete with translated messages where supported - that's too much :) there is also a german [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. Ain't gonna subscribe to another list if I can help it at all. I thought this might be a problem with updating from t-c-2 to t-c-3. Schoen Gruesse nach Oesterreich. Danke. Christian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE5gY6dtxWmQklOL8URAnLaAKD0a/wHoB0APUXnjdJ4gxXhbCDunwCcDl+n C8DEpuJH2jRAmXstnMgxr3Q= =4Clm -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Huge X-fonts in Frozen
+ Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: never mind, it can be set as a command-line option: startx -dpi 100 Does not work for me. Resolution is still 75x75 as xdpyinfo says. Kai. -- + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~bond/
Re: exim/procmail mutt: some mboxes read as 'new', others don't
+ Manoj Victor Mathew [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Use the config command mailboxes in your .muttrc to specify which mbox files need to be checked for new mail. My .muttrc reads ... mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/inbox*` `echo $HOME/Mail/per*` \ `echo $HOME/Mail/gen*` `echo $HOME/Mail/list*` Any hint, how to echo all files in Mail except msgid.cache? I am still not keen on unix regular expression -- switched from Amiga to Debian. Kai. -- + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~bond/
RE: Huge X-fonts in Frozen
Title: RE: Huge X-fonts in Frozen shouldn't it be startx -- -dpi 100 ? (Note the -- which says following options are for X, not startx itself) HTH Thierry -Original Message- From: Kai Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 3:20 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Huge X-fonts in Frozen + Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: never mind, it can be set as a command-line option: startx -dpi 100 Does not work for me. Resolution is still 75x75 as xdpyinfo says. Kai. -- + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~bond/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: [why is kernel recompilation necessary?]
On 28-Jul-2000 Kent West wrote: In still other words, can you use make menuconfig to compile a minimal kernel and then add modules later from whatever source even though you didn't tell the kernel to expect these modules when you did the make menuconfig. I don't think that would work, because you have to tell the kernel which modules you want, or they won't load when you need them. If you compile the just modules, the kernel won't know what to do with them. -- Andrew
Re: Xfree86-4.0.1 and Enlightenment
I had the same problem. It turned out I needed -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 135336 Jul 2 06:31 libextmod.a in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extentsions, and then: then I had to update /etc/X11/XF86Config: Section Module Loaddbe # Double buffer extension #SubSection extmod # Optionomit xfree86-dga # don't initialise the DGA extension #EndSubSection Loadextmod Loadtype1 Loadfreetype Load glx Load dri EndSection I had to comment out the 3 lines, and then add the 'Load extmod' line. After that, it works great. Robert Thus spake Ethan Pierce ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, I recently compiled x4.0.1 from source and all seemed to work well. I did this to get better accel from my tnt2. When I go to start E now I get: Xserver does not support Shape extension Your server is out of date or misconfigured Has anyone seen this error before, and if so, do you know how to correct it? Thank you, Ethan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Micros~1 : Senior System Engineer |For when quality, reliability at RnD Consulting | and security just aren't \_ that important! DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
setting framebuffer mode during boot
I have framebuffer support compiled into my kernel, and I want to set the screen mode it uses when I boot. Currently it defaults to a 640x480/80x30 mode, and I want to set it to a higher resolution. I have an ATI Rage Pro card, so I think I should be using the atyfb frambuffer module. According to the Framebuffer HOWTO, and the various readmes in the kernel source, I should be able to set the framebuffer mode from lilo like this: append=video=atyfb:vesa:mode:1152x864-70 which make difference at all for me. (I have also tried a number of simple variations, and other modes, but none of them work for me.) Another possibility seems to be to use vga=Some VESA mode number in lilo, but I cannot get that to work. Either it will very briefly switch into the required mode and then switch back to 640x480, or it will switch into a mode that my monitor cannot deal with and I get a corrupt screen. Partly the difficulty seems to be to get a definitive list of VESA mode numbers. I assume that many people have this working, so what am I doing wrong? -- Gilbert Laycock email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maths and Computer Science, http://www.mcs.le.ac.uk/~glaycock University of Leicester phone: (+44) 116 252 3902
Re: Web interface to packages
Christian Pernegger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why are there only i386 packages for download on Debians web site? I do not have, say, an Alpha but nevertheless it struck me as strange that a search result from http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages leads only to i386 downloads. Is there anything I overlooked? Christian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE5gN/rtxWmQklOL8URAl00AKCTpZ4cCP5oOonOGV9rv+7++XM5iQCgp17C 3zuHcUzPx4fnv91Qv+29knY= =6nvu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null They have the other packaes availble they might have it auto redired toth architecture of the pc hat your brosweing the site from. begin:vcard n:Bardin;Jon x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note:www.gamesig.com -uniting the linux gaming community x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Jon Bardin end:vcard
Re: mounting floppy
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 09:57:12PM -0700, Dale Morris wrote: I'm trying to mount a floppy that I made with Redhat 6.2 system. It mounted on a previous install of potato, but I reinstalled and now when I try to mount it I get the following error message: [I cannot determine the file type and none was specified] which filesystem has this floppy? which filesystem does /dev/fd0 have in /etc/fstab? can you mount the floppy with 'mount -t fs /dev/fd0 /floppy'? moritz -- /* Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. */
Re: volume control
Gary Hennigan wrote: Michael Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 27 Jul 2000, Gary Hennigan wrote: Do they work as root? Make sure you have the mixer device(s) in /dev. I don't have a Debian system handy with working sound, but my laptop (sans sound) has /dev/mixer and /dev/mixer1. If they work as root then it's just a permission problem. May be a long shot but it's worth a look. It wasn't a long shot at all. That worked! I had no idea that there was a separate mixer device. chmod 666 /dev/mixer fixed the problem. Many thanks. Too bad the apps didn't complain about a permissions problem... I'm glad that worked. The Debian Way (TM) to do this, by the way, is to: chmod 660 /dev/mixer* chown root.audio /dev/mixer* and then add the users that you want to allow access to the audio group. A lot of the things devices in /dev work this way. Gary -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Yeah thats a much better way. i am always chmodin 666 stuff to see if they work and then i cantremeber what the proper mods should be. Thank you for that knowledge so now i can fix my machine up proper :) -Jon begin:vcard n:Bardin;Jon x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note:www.gamesig.com -uniting the linux gaming community x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Jon Bardin end:vcard
Re: LILO troubles
Jason Schepman wrote: I'm having LILO problems. I'm pretty sure that my config file is correct. When I try to boot, my screen fills up with 1's and 0's. please advise, thanks. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null If you can get access to the lilo help files the 101010101 means a precise error and usually has a very precise fix for it. -Jon begin:vcard n:Bardin;Jon x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note:www.gamesig.com -uniting the linux gaming community x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Jon Bardin end:vcard
Re: volume control
On 28 Jul 2000, Gary Hennigan wrote: I'm glad that worked. The Debian Way (TM) to do this, by the way, is to: chmod 660 /dev/mixer* chown root.audio /dev/mixer* and then add the users that you want to allow access to the audio group. A lot of the things devices in /dev work this way. I don't have to do a newgrp to be a member of that group, do I? lupus:~# chmod 660 /dev/mixer lupus:~# ll /dev/mix* crw-rw1 root audio 14, 0 Sep 8 1999 /dev/mixer crw-rw1 root audio 14, 16 Sep 8 1999 /dev/mixer1 lupus:/etc# groups msoulier msoulier : msoulier lupus:/etc# adduser msoulier audio Adding user msoulier to group audio... Done. lupus:/etc# groups msoulier msoulier : msoulier audio But now it doesn't work. However, if I manually change groups... [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ groups msoulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ groups msoulier msoulier : msoulier audio [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ newgrp audio [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ groups audio msoulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ xmms It works fine. Do I have to do a newgrp every time? That's kind of annoying. Mike To listen to the words of the learned, and to instill into others the lessons of science, is better than religious exercises. -- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
Re: volume control
Actually, after creating this alias, it's not so bad... alias xmms='sg audio -c xmms ' Mike On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Michael Soulier wrote: I don't have to do a newgrp to be a member of that group, do I? lupus:~# chmod 660 /dev/mixer lupus:~# ll /dev/mix* crw-rw1 root audio 14, 0 Sep 8 1999 /dev/mixer crw-rw1 root audio 14, 16 Sep 8 1999 /dev/mixer1 lupus:/etc# groups msoulier msoulier : msoulier lupus:/etc# adduser msoulier audio Adding user msoulier to group audio... Done. lupus:/etc# groups msoulier msoulier : msoulier audio But now it doesn't work. However, if I manually change groups... [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ groups msoulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ groups msoulier msoulier : msoulier audio [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ newgrp audio [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ groups audio msoulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ xmms It works fine. Do I have to do a newgrp every time? That's kind of annoying. Mike To listen to the words of the learned, and to instill into others the lessons of science, is better than religious exercises. -- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null To listen to the words of the learned, and to instill into others the lessons of science, is better than religious exercises. -- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
Re: char-major-6
On 28-Jul-2000 Erik Mathisen wrote: I keep getting this stupid error in my syslog: modprobe: can't locate module char-major-6 now i searched my system, I dont have that module, how do I get this error to stop? It puts 2 or 3 entries in the log a minute. Any help would greatly be appreciated, Erik I've had the same problem, but with block-major-8 (scsi-disk). Since I don't have scsi devices, I appended an alias block-major-8 off to /etc/modutils/aliases and ran update-modules. After that I didn't get the message anymore. char-major-6 are the parallel ports. I believe that making your own kernel with CONFIG_PRINTER can solve it too. This solution has the advantage that it enables you keep using your parallel ports. You should be able to verify in /boot/config$YOUR_KENEL_VERSION whether CONFIG_PRINTER it is currently set. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com
Re: volume control
Quoting Michael Soulier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I don't have to do a newgrp to be a member of that group, do I? It works fine. Do I have to do a newgrp every time? That's kind of annoying. I think you just have to log in. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: modules.conf vs conf.modules
David Z. Maze wrote: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: KW Is there a plain-english (for dummies) page somewhere that KW explains how modules work (modutils vs /etc/modules vs kmod vs KW kerneld vs conf.modules vs modules.conf vs /etc/modutils/ vs auto KW vs specific items in /etc/modules vs compile-in vs Godzilla vs KW Buck Rogers in the 23rd Century)? I'll give this a shot. The Linux kernel arbitrates access to various hardware devices, and provides (in theory, at least) consistent interfaces to user-space programs. This means that there are various hardware and protocol drivers that need to somehow be part of the kernel. There are two main ways to do this: compile the driver into the kernel directly or load it at runtime as a kernel extension module.[1] Modules can actually get loaded in a couple of different ways. A program called insmod actually does the loading. Another program, called modprobe, is generally used to do the task, though. modprobe reads /etc/conf.modules or /etc/modules.conf (either will work), and uses the options there to determine proper module dependencies and options. (So if module foo depends on bar, 'modprobe foo' will load both foo and bar.) Sometimes it's possible for a module to get automatically loaded. If you try to, for example, access a device for which no kernel driver is loaded, the kernel will attempt to load an appropriate module. On Linux 2.0, this was done via an external program called kerneld. The equivalent facility in 2.2 kernels is built into the kernel, and it's called kmod. (So kmod and kerneld do exactly the same thing, but which one you use is a function of which kernel you have. Debian magically Does The Right Thing (TM) to start kerneld if necessary.) /etc/modules determines which modules are loaded at boot-time on Debian systems. Any module name listed there is loaded with modprobe. If the keyword 'auto' is there, kerneld is immediately loaded, if necessary; the keyword 'noauto' causes kerneld to never be loaded. Otherwise, kerneld is loaded after much of the boot sequence (IIRC). As I mentioned a couple of paragraphs ago, /etc/conf.modules tells modprobe what module dependencies, options, etc. should exist. On current Debian systems, this is managed through the files in /etc/modutils. A program called update-modules essentially cats together all of the files under this directory. This setup gives Debian a little more flexibility: if a particular package is responsible for some set of module settings, it can update a file in /etc/modutils and run update-modules, without tromping on other packages' settings. How is this relevant to a system administrator? Files you care about are probably: /etc/modules: lists modules to be loaded at boot time /etc/modutils/*: fragments to be combined into a complete /etc/conf.modules file; you can create, for example, /etc/modutils/sound on your system with appropriate options for your particular system's sound setup. Run update-modules after you change anything here. HTH... [1] This means that it's theoretically possible to ignore this entire modules nonsense and build everything you want into the kernel. This is less flexible, though, and you need to rebuild the kernel if you ever want to change things; it's a pain. Also, some packages (e.g. ALSA) are only available as modules for the moment. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell This was good. Thank you!
Helix Gnome Evolution 0.3
Hi, I was reading today on slashdot about Evolution 0.3. They have a download link for the tar.gz file. I was wondering if the apt-get utility will work if I use the spidermonkey.helixgnome.com source for the update? Has anyone else tried this? Thanks -Ethan
Re: Helix Gnome Evolution 0.3
Sorry, I found the answer to my question. Evolution .3 is a Microsoft Outlook replacement for linux. To get it via apt-get add the following to sources.list deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/evolution/distributions/Debian run - apt-get update - apt-get install evolution Enjoy - this looks promising and a great start to getting MS outta the office! Ethan Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/00 12:00PM Hi, I was reading today on slashdot about Evolution 0.3. They have a download link for the tar.gz file. I was wondering if the apt-get utility will work if I use the spidermonkey.helixgnome.com source for the update? Has anyone else tried this? Thanks -Ethan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Helix Gnome Evolution 0.3
Ethan Pierce wrote: Sorry, I found the answer to my question. Evolution .3 is a Microsoft Outlook replacement for linux. To get it via apt-get add the following to sources.list deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/evolution/distributions/Debian run - apt-get update - apt-get install evolution Enjoy - this looks promising and a great start to getting MS outta the office! Nope; apt-get update reports a mal-formed line.
Re: Helix Gnome Evolution 0.3
Sorry all, the sources.list line should read: deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/evolution/distributions/Debian/ ./ Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/00 12:15PM Ethan Pierce wrote: Sorry, I found the answer to my question. Evolution .3 is a Microsoft Outlook replacement for linux. To get it via apt-get add the following to sources.list deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/evolution/distributions/Debian run - apt-get update - apt-get install evolution Enjoy - this looks promising and a great start to getting MS outta the office! Nope; apt-get update reports a mal-formed line.
Re: LILO troubles
On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 12:47:16AM -0500, Jason Schepman wrote: I'm having LILO problems. I'm pretty sure that my config file is correct. When I try to boot, my screen fills up with 1's and 0's. I had the same trouble with the new lilo and could not solve it. Johann. -- J.H. Spies, Hugenotestraat 29, Posbus 80, Franschhoek, 7690, South Africa Tel/Faks 021-876-2337 Sel/Cell 082 898 1528(Johann) 082 255 2388(Hester) If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15
NFS mounted /usr
I'm trying to build a small lan and being a bit short on HD space (250MB to 500MB tops) I wanted to have /home /usr and so forth be NFS mounted. I'm currently having a problem in which the /usr partition that is exported is corrupted by the client machine (broke exim when I installed ssmtp for example). Since I have obviously done something wrong in this I was wondering if anyone could point me to some instructions for getting /usr to be ignored by dpkg/apt/... in package installations. TIA -- AIM: FDragon666 ICQ: 9333698 URL: http://www.io.com IRC: fdragon Today is Prickle-Prickle, day 63 in the season of Confusion, 3166. Mother is the invention of necessity. pgpYcqhfF3Y20.pgp Description: PGP signature
Starting GNOME (newbie question)
I installed helix-gnome in my notebook and I want to know how to start it. What should I put in my .xinitrc file? I tried sawfish directly, but it doesn't work. Sorry for the newbie question, but I'm a fvwm user and I'm used to put fvwm2 in my .xinitrc and create a .fvwm2rc and it's all! :-) []s, Marcio /*** * MARCIO ROSA DA SILVAe-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Assistant Professor [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Electrical Engineering Department * Universidade do Vale do Rio dos Sinos - UNISINOS * Av. Unisinos, 950 * Sao Leopoldo - RS - Brazil * Phone: +55 51 590- R:1781/1782 * FAX: +55 51 590-8172 * http://www.eletrica.unisinos.br/~marcio ***/
HELP! 2.1 install from PCMCIA cdrom
I didn't have any luck finding this topic in the archive, but I'm sure it's come up before... I'm being tortured by a Sony Vaio laptop which does not have a built in CDROM. Instead it has a PCMCIA connected CDROM drive. Happily the laptop is able to boot from the CDROM, so I just stuck my 2.1 CD in and tried to install Debian. It boots and I can fix up the harddrive, but unfortunately I can't install the operating system because Debian can't find the CDROM. (even though it booted from it!) Could somebody tell me how I can install Debian on this thing? (I'm installing 2.1 because I have CDs for it but I plan to upgrade to 2.2 immediately, so let me know if this could be done better starting with 2.2) I found a little bit in the HOWTO documents about installing from a PCMCIA device, but it didn't look pretty. I thought I'd check to see if there was a proper Debian way to do it. Thanks, Jim To help narrow down the possibilities, here are my other resources: a computer with debian 2.2 (but no net access, if I need to download something, it could be tricky) a Sun with net access (but Solaris) a PCMCIA NIC for the laptop (NFS boot?) I can't burn CDROMs I have plenty of floppies around if that's what I have to do.
Re: Helix Gnome Evolution 0.3
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... Hi, I was reading today on slashdot about Evolution 0.3. They have a download link for the tar.gz file. I was wondering if the apt-get utility will work if I use the spidermonkey.helixgnome.com source for the update? Has anyone else tried this? The line for sources.list is deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/evolution/distributions/Debian/ ./ After that do your usual 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get install evolution'. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstien
Re: advanced power management and linux?
At 15.15 27/7/00 -0700, heu escrit: I'm researching new hardware for my linux box. I live in a small apartment so my main requirement is that the damn thing be quiet. Does anyone have reports of advanced power management working under linux? I know that is in principle supported, but what are the results? The quietest machine I've seen was an IBM aptiva running windows, it was capable of shutting down everything when it went to sleep, as far as I could tell. but I couldn't hear it. Tell me what kind of hardware you have and how quiet it is! From my previous experiences, if you want noisy stuff (not Linux related, just hardware related): Pioneer 36X DVD: very noisy. Creative CD-ROM 48X: very very noisy. Bulk CD-ROM 6X: very silent (well, the Playstation is also 2X and it's very noisy! :) ) In HDDs it's very difficult to guess: Quantum 8 Gb: very silent. Quantum 10 Gb: quite noisy. Samsung 1 Gb: very noisy. Samsung 10 Gb: very silent. Seagate 3 Gb: quite noisy. Seagate 4 Gb: extremely and insane noisy. Taking apart Seagate, very contradictory, isn't it? There is a company that sells PCs that seem to be silent (Silent Systems), but sure they are expensive and guess what strange hardware there's inside! It's very hard to guess. If you want silence, you live in a small apartment and you have some extra cash, buy a laptop and you'll get in love with it (but check the hardware, do not get a winmodem with it!). Hope that helps, I.T. ___ Do You Yahoo!? Achetez, vendez! À votre prix! Sur http://encheres.yahoo.fr
Re: [why is kernel recompilation necessary?]
The whole point of my post was to not have to read 17 web pages! chris Oh man, nothing is perfect! But let me tell ou something. When some hardware companies are such bastards that they do such indecent drivers that collide with Windoze and at my left I have a scanner that I know that it will only run under Linux, where all processes are clear and well-documented... Or when actually I have to tell with the disk drivers to W98 _SE_ that the modem it has is this one (a model of _1996_), not another... The very cheap Plug Play. Under Debian I've always solved all my problems. Not in Windoze, 9X or NT. Debian is some effort... But it gives you lots of rewards. I.T. ___ Do You Yahoo!? Achetez, vendez! À votre prix! Sur http://encheres.yahoo.fr
Re: same debian, new hardware?
3) Make binary images of the old hard drives, automagically paste these onto the new hard drive. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure this is impossible. You mention SCSI in the old box, but don't say what's the hardware in the new box. If IDE, you could install the new disk in the old machine, partition it (think about that, of course), mount it on /mnt and copy the files onto it with cd old-directory-root find -xdev | cpio -damp /mnt Then create a boot floppy, rdev the kernel to the future correct device, put the new disk in the new machine, boot it with the floppy and run lilo. OK, that sounds good. I think my new drive will be IDE, but why does it matter? I was under the impression that the whole point of SCSI was to allow easy addition of devices...the old machine was sort of a hand-me-down, I didn't buy the scsi controller, which is my excuse for not knowing a whole lot about how it works.. By the way, I don't suppose a similar procedure will work for moving the Windows partition, or does anyone know? 4) Physically install the old hard drives in the new machine. Make a boot floppy, move the drives, boot with the floppy, copy in the same way as above, rdev the floppy (or a copy), boot again, this time into the new drive, run lilo. OK this sounds just like the previous step, except putting the old drives in the new machine rather than putting the new drive in the old machine, copying, and then putting it back in the new machine, am I right? On the subject of drives, is my existing scsi setup a valuable thing to have or should should I just dump the whole thing in the lane and never look back? Someone told me scsi is faster than non-scsi, can I capitalize on this somehow? Thanks for all the responses, this is great -chris
Re: [why is kernel recompilation necessary?]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Pollywog wrote: On 28-Jul-2000 Kent West wrote: In still other words, can you use make menuconfig to compile a minimal kernel and then add modules later from whatever source even though you didn't tell the kernel to expect these modules when you did the make menuconfig. I don't think that would work, because you have to tell the kernel which modules you want, or they won't load when you need them. If you compile the just modules, the kernel won't know what to do with them. That's not the case at all. As some people have mentioned in this thread, certain proprietary drivers are distrubuted as binary-only kernel modules. This would obviously not be possible if the whole kernel had to be rebuilt to use a module. The commercial version of the Open Sound System is one example of this (or was; I haven't used it since I built a new machine with an ALSA supported sound card). noah ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOYHD5IdCcpBjGWoFAQE2EgP/axBAqQeI4BYi9xH5t6sKlebM1xJa9uGB CDkC9Ygybu2nE7c8/Zm+hc42yQFqj6gALkPEjGTqubEZs9+0qqLHmtnkiEao06IJ quGEV6Pr56c/2IKaF+3VfVB8iGch66tiWiBchKXhKNk8aWuePkoD1OFgzBoO/5qt +qUiwECLkSs= =Zrm8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
debian rocks
I have to tell you, the more I use Debian, the more I like it. It's not the big things. The big thing is that it's Linux. It's the little things. I go hunting for the default vimrc file installed when I grabbed vim. On every *nix system in the world, it's probably in a subdirectory of the install. On Debian, it's symlinked to files in /etc, where all the config files are and should be. Wasn't that way on Mandrake/RedHat. Kudos people. Don't let commercial interests screw it up or force you to be sloppy. This is a work of art. Mike To listen to the words of the learned, and to instill into others the lessons of science, is better than religious exercises. -- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
Re: [why is kernel recompilation necessary?]
On 28-Jul-2000 Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: That's not the case at all. As some people have mentioned in this thread, certain proprietary drivers are distrubuted as binary-only kernel modules. This would obviously not be possible if the whole kernel had to be rebuilt to use a module. The commercial version of the Open Sound System is one example of this (or was; I haven't used it since I built a new machine with an ALSA supported sound card). I use the OSS commercial driver and was not aware that it is a kernel module. It seems that whenever I have installed a kernel module, I had to recompile the kernel; that is how I was told to do it. *still a newbie* -- Andrew
current Redhat user evaluates Debian
Hi, I'm a current RedHat user (started with Linux on RedHat because it was available at Fry's), and I'm currently evaluating Debian for a possible switch. Can anyone come up with a list of advantages of using Debian Linux over Redhat Linux? I would also love to hear any the weaknesses Debian has compared RedHat. Thanks, -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648
