Re: meaning of .nfsXYZ files?

2000-07-30 Thread markm
> Just found several .nfsXYZ.. files in my directory.

This happens if you delete a file on an nfs mounted directory that
another program has open.

HTH
Mark



Re: Wine Windows Emulator

2000-07-30 Thread Bill Keegan
> I am a newbie to the Linux OS and I am using Corel Linux.  I was trying to 
> install the Wine emulator and can't figure out how to do this, if anyone can
> help please do so?
>  

I started Corel Update, selected the Available Software tab and under
"otherofs" found the Wine packages.

Bill Keegan



Re: [Updated] PPP Rx errors...

2000-07-30 Thread John Carline
John Hasler wrote:

> John Carline writes:
> > I had compiled both ppp and slip into the 2.2.16 kernel, and evidently
> > they didn't play well together.
>
> There is no good reason they shouldn't.

That's interesting!  I'll play with it a while and see if I can figure out why 
they
wouldn't work together.

John

--

Powered by the Penguin





Re: help!

2000-07-30 Thread John Foster
Guest wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> 
> i'm still new to enlightenment.. i accidentally removed the pager from
> the desktop and I have no idea on how to make it appear again on the
> desktop.
> 
> Can anyone help?

uh... follow the instructions that pop up on your screen when the curser
is idle...

John Foster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ICQ# 19460173



Re: Is Debian the last OS ?

2000-07-30 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 20:53, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 10:42:29AM -0400, Adam Scriven wrote:
> > I'm still very much getting used to Debian, however, and the long time 
> > between releases is stopping my Dad from switching, since he wants to 
> > switch to the most updated release possible if he switches, but even 
> > Potato's just 2.2.16/17.
> 
> As opposed to what?  An unstable 2.3.x release?  A 2.4.x with known
> problems?  That's a silly argument to not use a distribution (and
> always has been).
> 
> Kernel sources are *always* available at www.kernel.org.

Whaddya wanna bet he's comparing to RedHat 6.2 or Mandrake 7.1? Sigh.

Cheers,
 Pann
-- 
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The Choice  /V\
http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/ of a GNU  /( )\
Generation ^^-^^



alternatives to fdisk

2000-07-30 Thread Arcady Genkin
What alternatives to fdisk are there?  I remember I used one once, but
shoot me if I remember the name. ;^)

Thanks,
-- 
Arcady Genkin
Thanks God I'm still an atheist! -- Luis Bunuel



help!

2000-07-30 Thread Guest
Hello:

i'm still new to enlightenment.. i accidentally removed the pager from
the desktop and I have no idea on how to make it appear again on the
desktop.

Can anyone help?

thank you.

linuxrules!



Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?

2000-07-30 Thread Chanop Silpa-Anan
Once upon a time, I heard Robert L. Harris say

> 
> 
> Actually I kinda went with 2.  With Debian, I installed both the debian
> 473 and the netscape version of 474 (into /usr/local/netscape per 
> default) and then just did an update-alternatives to point to this
> version.  Worked very nice and clean on my desktop and my laptops.
> 
> Robert

But with only update-alternatives method that point netscape/communicator to
your /usr/local/netscape/netscape, you would lost very good wrapper that
Adam Heath wrote, e.g. it manage all the plugin installed, mime, and etc...
You could do these things by yourself but it's very convenient to use that
wrapper.


Chanop
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sound

2000-07-30 Thread Dale Morris
I'm trying to configure my yamaha oplsa sound card. I'm running linux
kernel 2.2.16 and sound is configured in the kernel. From dmesg it
appears that everything is working:

Sound initialization started
Found OPL3-SAx (YMF719)
 at 0x330 irq 9 dma 0
Sound initialization complete

Where do I go from here? How do I get sound working? If I run esd from
the command line it returns /dev/dsp: no such device. I'm in the
process of RTFM now.
thanks
-- dale



Re: Is Debian the last OS ? (Long reply)

2000-07-30 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Adam Scriven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> So, for him to go to 2.2, and get the upgrades that he wants, he
> needs to reinstall.  He has no problem with this, and I've recommend
> Debian, but no matter how "stable" the frozen version is, it IS
> STILL frozen, and not the officially released version, so he's not
> comfortable switching to it.

Upgrading from slink to potato is a breeze.  Besides potato is rumored
to become stable in August.  I've been running and updating potato
regularly for about a year without any major trouble.  I guess the
biggest hickup was caused by updating to emacs20-20.7.  It screwed my
gnus setup, but installing the seperately packaged gnus package fixed
everything.  Note, these ripples were caused by changes within potato
and had nothing to do with upgrading from slink.

Has he ever tried a RedHat x.0 release?  From what I heard these are
as buggy as, likely even buggier than, Debian's frozen releases.  It
is just what an organization is prepared to call an official release.

> So that leaves him with RedHat, since he understands it.

Sounds like he doesn't want to (or can't) put in some effort.

-- 
Olaf Meeuwissen   Epson Kowa Corporation, Research and Development



Re: Installing X help

2000-07-30 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 09:13:18PM -0600, Chris Cameron wrote:
> I'm hoping someone would be kind enough to help me out with a problem I'm
> having with X.
> 
> As usual I've screwed up part of my Linux system. I was trying to update
> from KDE/X 3.3.5 to Gnome and X 3.3.6. After removing all evidence of X and
> KDE, I tried installing X with the binaries on their site, but I ran into an
  ^
  Who's site?
  
> ldconfig problem complaining about a lack of Xaw3d. Same story when trying
> this with .deb packages.
> 
> Any chance this is a common problem? Is there at least another route I can
> take to getting X going again?

It'd be helpful to know which version of Debian (Slink, Potato, ...).
If you're missing Xaw3d then you probably haven't grabbed all the
necessary X packages (like xaw3d).  Anyway, you probably want to install
xaw3dg.  Maybe you want to use apt? 
$ apt-get update
$ apt-get install task-x-window-system task-gnome-desktop


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Installing X help

2000-07-30 Thread Chris Cameron
I'm hoping someone would be kind enough to help me out with a problem I'm
having with X.

As usual I've screwed up part of my Linux system. I was trying to update
from KDE/X 3.3.5 to Gnome and X 3.3.6. After removing all evidence of X and
KDE, I tried installing X with the binaries on their site, but I ran into an
ldconfig problem complaining about a lack of Xaw3d. Same story when trying
this with .deb packages.

Any chance this is a common problem? Is there at least another route I can
take to getting X going again?

Thanks for any help,
Chris



Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?

2000-07-30 Thread Robert L. Harris


Actually I kinda went with 2.  With Debian, I installed both the debian
473 and the netscape version of 474 (into /usr/local/netscape per 
default) and then just did an update-alternatives to point to this
version.  Worked very nice and clean on my desktop and my laptops.

Robert

Thus spake Tom Pfeifer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> 128 bit encryption is not available directly from installing Debian
> packages. There's a few options as far as getting the 128 bit
> encryption:
> 
> 1) Install normally using the Debian package(s). This will install the
> 56 bit version. Then use the fortify packages (fortify and
> fortify-linux-x86) to install the 128 bit encryption. The fortify
> packages are in the non-US distribution, but it only works with versions
> up to and including 4.72. The Debian packages will install to
> /usr/lib/netscape.
> 
> OR 
> 
> 2) Install by downloading the 128 bit version directly from Netscape.
> This will be in the form of a tar.gz file and after extracting the file
> to a setup directory, the included 'ns-install' script is run to install
> the program to /usr/local/netscape (by default). 
> 
> OR
> 
> 3) If you want to install version 4.73 using Debian packages AND want
> 128 bit encryption, the fortify packages will not work for that version.
> What you do can in that case (or with any version) is to also install
> (temporarily) the 'direct from Netscape' tar.gz version just to get the
> 128 bit binary. You can then copy that binary over the 56 bit version
> installed by the Debian package. I just did this today on my potato box
> with Communicator 4.73. The binary copy was like this:
> 
> cp /usr/local/netscape/netscape
> /usr/lib/netscape/473/communicator/communicator-smotif.real
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> Mathew Johnston wrote:
> > 
> > is there a 128 bit encryption netscape package floating around? I cant
> > find it in my packages list.
> > 
> > Thanks :)
> > Mat.
> > 
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Re: Is Debian the last OS ? (Long reply)

2000-07-30 Thread Adam Scriven

At 20:53 2000/07/30 -0500, you wrote:

On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 10:42:29AM -0400, Adam Scriven wrote:
> I'm still very much getting used to Debian, however, and the long time
> between releases is stopping my Dad from switching, since he wants to
> switch to the most updated release possible if he switches, but even
> Potato's just 2.2.16/17.

As opposed to what?  An unstable 2.3.x release?  A 2.4.x with known 
problems?  That's a silly argument to not use a distribution (and always 
has been).


Kernel sources are *always* available at www.kernel.org.


They are, but he's not advanced enough yet to compile his own kernel.
He's a very bright guy, and he'll figure it out eventually, but it's a very 
minor hobby for him right now, and he just hasn't gotten there yet.


But, because of the slow updates, and because it is now 2 releases behind, 
it's difficult to argue the change from RedHat to Debian.  The only stable 
Debian release is Slink, which is 2.0.36.  He has that already with RedHat 
5.2 (I think that's what he's got, it's definitely 2.0.36).  If he were to 
upgrade to RedHat 6, which has been out for quite a long time, he'd get (I 
believe) 2.2.  The 2.2 kernel has made some great leaps from the 2.0 series 
of kernels that he'd like to use (diald upgrades, to mention just one), but 
the upgrade from 2.0 to 2.2 for RedHat is, AFAIK, rather strange, and 
unadvised by RedHat themselves (last I checked).


So, for him to go to 2.2, and get the upgrades that he wants, he needs to 
reinstall.  He has no problem with this, and I've recommend Debian, but no 
matter how "stable" the frozen version is, it IS STILL frozen, and not the 
officially released version, so he's not comfortable switching to it.

So that leaves him with RedHat, since he understands it.

Also, as you mentioned, kernel 2.4 is out now, however many "known 
problems" it has, it is out.  2.2 has "known problems" as well, it just has 
less of them.
Which means that Debian, for all it's good things (and I am using it, and I 
will continue to use it, because I like it), is SLOW in it's release 
schedule, and this IS a deterrent for some intelligent people, who are 
LEARNING Linux.


I don't find the argument of a slow distribution schedule silly in the 
least, and to be perfectly honest, I find the attitude rather condescending.


Linux is a wonderful tool.  We all know it.  But it IS just that, a 
tool.  If a distribution, no matter how good it's intentions, can't keep 
up, then it will be relegated to the footers of history, and the world will 
turn around it.


I don't want to see this happen with Debian.

I apologize for the rant, and I hope I didn't offend anyone too much, but 
this attitude is one of the things that's personally stopping me from 
learning more about Linux.
Some of us learn slower, or just differently.  Seeing all the pluses of 
Debian, including the philosophy behind it (which I happen to agree with), 
I get frustrated having to tell people, who are less than comfortable with 
Linux, to use an (IMHO) inferior distribution, merely to get the options 
that they need.


Thanks for the read.
Adam
Toronto, Ontario, Canada



RE: newbie help

2000-07-30 Thread CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]
Try tar zxvf kernel-source 2.2.12.tar.gz (which u have mentioned is already
in /usr/src). tar will "un-tar" and 
"gunzip" the kernel sources into the directory
kernel-source- (or something like that). cd 
into the said directory and do a make config ( ro make menuconfig or make
xconfig if you want meu-driven and 
X versions of the config, respectively), make modules, make modules-install,
make bzImage. cp the resulting 
bzImage in /usr/src/arch/i386/boot (for i386 architecture) into /boot and
remember to modify your lilo.conf to i
nclude your new kernel and run lilo at the command prompt. Also, I suggest
you mv your current
 /lib/modules/ to /lib/modules/.original
...just in case you want to use 
the original modules back...


Hope that helpscheers.

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

Where do you want to go?
As far away from Redmond

Only dead fish go with the flow!

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 3:49 AM
> To:   debian-user-list
> Subject:  newbie help
> 
> I do have one little thing that I am stuck on.  I am trying to 
> recompile the kernel and I am trying to follow the 
> /usr/doc/kernel-package Readme file but I am not understanding the 
> first step.  I have kernel-source 2.2.12.tar.gz in /usr/src now.  Do I 
> need to gunzip it then un-tar it and then do the make config.  The 
> read me talk about where to unpack it but i am not sure about the 
> unpacking part. Any help is greatly appreciated.
> Clyde
>  << File: filename="text1.rtf" >> 



Which hardware has linux drivers?

2000-07-30 Thread Krzys Majewski
Is there anything besides LHD for finding out if some piece of hardware
is supported by linux? I'm looking at new machines and nobody knows
anything about linux, which is funny considering their webservers are 
probably running it. How do you guys deal with this? Do you just buy
a machine and cross your fingers or? -chris




Re: make menuconfig

2000-07-30 Thread Dale Morris
Olaf Meeuwissen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Dale Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > when I try to run make menuconfig I encouter the following error:
> > 
> > In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
> > dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
> > make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
> > 
> > I've tried reinstalling the ncurses library, any other suggestions. I
> > would like to use this to reconfigure my kernel
> 
> Did you install libncurses5-dev or similar?  You need a *-dev package
> for the curses.h file to be there.  If you have, check where it ended
> up and see if your compiler looks in the right places for it.
> -- 
> Olaf Meeuwissen   Epson Kowa Corporation, Research and Development
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 
Installed it and it works perfectly, thanks!

--dale



Re: make menuconfig

2000-07-30 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Dale Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> when I try to run make menuconfig I encouter the following error:
> 
> In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
> dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
> make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
> 
> I've tried reinstalling the ncurses library, any other suggestions. I
> would like to use this to reconfigure my kernel

Did you install libncurses5-dev or similar?  You need a *-dev package
for the curses.h file to be there.  If you have, check where it ended
up and see if your compiler looks in the right places for it.
-- 
Olaf Meeuwissen   Epson Kowa Corporation, Research and Development



RE: Outlook/Outlook Express

2000-07-30 Thread CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]
Hellowake upthis is the debian-user list...

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: dsbiloxi [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 11:28 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Outlook/Outlook Express
> 
> Is it possible to transfer info from my "Contacts" listing in Outlook to
> "Contacts" in Outlook Express?
>  
> Thanks
> Dale << File: Dale Summers.vcf >> 



RE: Newbie Install Questions

2000-07-30 Thread CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]
Q1  It usually defaults to the user directory in /home...unless you
changed it...then it will default to the last chaged directory
Q2  Suggest you go to http://www.google.com and type in yamaha "opl3sa
linux" and see what comes up
Q3  See the LDP at the various mirror sites...

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: Dale Morris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 10:17 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Newbie Install Questions
> 
> I've used Linux (Redhat) for about 6 months and have just installed potato
> via ftp. I have some newbie questions I would appreciate some help with:
> 
> 1.) If I download a file from the net, where does it go? Which directory,
> as netscape seems to automatically determine the target.
> 2.) Where's the *best* newbie info for installing my Yamaha opl3a sound
> card?
> 3.) What do I do to get printing? I installed lpr module in the kernel and
> installed aps filter, but when trying to print a test page, nothing
> happened. Again, any good sources for printer config info?
> 
> thanks
> -- dale 
> 
> 
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RE: current Redhat user evaluates Debian

2000-07-30 Thread CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]
You got that right :-)!

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -Original Message-
> From: Ethan Pierce [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 8:25 AM
> To:   montefin; John L. Fjellstad
> Cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: current Redhat user evaluates Debian
> 
> Incredible :)
> - Original Message -
> From: "montefin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "John L. Fjellstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 7:17 PM
> Subject: Re: current Redhat user evaluates Debian
> 
> 
> >
> > "In a galaxy far away, John L. Fjellstad" wrote:
> > >
> > >  Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm a current RedHat user (started with Linux on RedHat because
> > > it was available at Fry's), and I'm currently evaluating
> > > Debian for a possible switch.
> > >
> > > Can anyone come up with a list of advantages of using Debian
> > > Linux over Redhat Linux?
> > > I would also love to hear any the weaknesses Debian has compared
> > > RedHat.
> > >
> >
> > John,
> >
> > I've been dual-booting Red Hat and Win98 on a PII 350, since March,
> > 1999. Before that I'd been dividing my computing pretty much equally
> > between MacOS and NT.
> >
> > In January, 2000, I got serious about setting up a network to serve my
> > websites, front-ended by a firewall box that wouldn't quickly become
> > just 'a piece of Swiss cheese' between my LAN and the outside world.
> >
> > In other words, I wanted a system configuration that would impose a
> > strict, consistent, logical hierarchy and be easy to maintain and update
> > against any new security exploits that would inevitably come at it.
> >
> > I looked into Slackware, SuSE, Debian and also OpenBSD and FreeBSD.
> >
> > In March, 2000, I picked up a 1992-era 486DX 66 with a modest 514Mb hard
> > drive, at Goodwill of all places. $120 and all the hardware was Linux
> > compatible!
> >
> > The local LUG (Linux Users Group) here, offered to make free burns of
> > any distros members wanted to try. I got a CD each for Debian, Slack and
> > SuSE.
> >
> > Since I'd already started auditing this (the debian-users) mailing list,
> > I popped in the Debian CD first and found I only had part of what I
> > needed. But it made enough sense that I downloaded a set of tools from
> > http://www.debian.org to floppies and partitioned the 'Goodwill Special'
> > as 100% pure Debian and installed a workable 'Slink' (Debian's current
> > stable release) base system.
> >
> > Over a 56k modem and using 'dselect' (Debian's front-end to 'dpkg', the
> > package management tool), I fleshed out 'Slink', but realized it was
> > pretty outdated as compared to the Red Hat 6.1 conglomeration I was
> > using on the PII.
> >
> > So I ordered a set of CD's for Debian 'Potato' (at the time, Debian's
> > unstable release) from the nice people at Greenbush Technologies
> > http://www.greenbush.com/cgi-greenbush/order/index.cgi .
> >
> > But before the CD's arrived I'd discovered apt-get (Debian's system for
> > upgrading from file, http or ftp sources). I never used the CD's.
> >
> > Once you get the hang of apt-get, you realize there isn't much else out
> > there that you can even compare it with.
> >
> > Almost overnight, online, I went from 'Slink' to 'Potato', without
> > having to bother the great folks on this list too much (I hope). All of
> > a sudden, Red Hat was looking outdated!
> >
> > BTW, if apt-get is my #1 reason for going forward with Debian for my
> > firewall, this list is a close second. I have attempted about nine times
> > to get email support from Red Hat, support I paid for, and never got
> > past a bot or a 'customer service' representative who couldn't
> > understand how I could possibly be feeling frustrated. Never once did
> > anyone who knew anything ever respond.
> >
> > In late June, 2000, I upgraded from the 56k modem to a 192k/192k SDSL
> > connection, installed linux-2.2.16, set up the network, ssh and ssl,
> > then just last night decided to 'apt-get' myself from mostly 'Potato' to
> > full 'Woody' (Debian's current development release).
> >
> > Maybe I've gotten too confident in the Debian development team for
> > 'Woody' on a firewall?
> >
> > If apt-get was great at 56k, it is mind-boggling at 192k. Especially if
> > you've ever tried to get a crucial security update from Red Hat or one
> > of its mirrors and gotten an insipid dialogue saying more or less 'sorry
> > all circuits are busy' or 'that site/directory/file does not exist'.
> >
> > Best of all, once you've done an 'apt-get dist-upgrade', a complete
> > upgrading of everything you have chosen to have on your Debian system --
> > online -- in under an hour -- whenever you want (I do it weekly) -- you
> > never want to go back to anything like the horrors I experienced
> > upgrading from Red Hat 6.0 to 6.1.
> >
> > RH 6.2? No thank you.
> >
> > However, I'm continuing to run Red Hat 

make menuconfig

2000-07-30 Thread Dale Morris
when I try to run make menuconfig I encouter the following error:

In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1

I've tried reinstalling the ncurses library, any other suggestions. I
would like to use this to reconfigure my kernel

thanks
dale



Re: Is Debian the last OS ?

2000-07-30 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 10:42:29AM -0400, Adam Scriven wrote:
> I'm still very much getting used to Debian, however, and the long time 
> between releases is stopping my Dad from switching, since he wants to 
> switch to the most updated release possible if he switches, but even 
> Potato's just 2.2.16/17.

As opposed to what?  An unstable 2.3.x release?  A 2.4.x with known
problems?  That's a silly argument to not use a distribution (and
always has been).

Kernel sources are *always* available at www.kernel.org.

-- 
Nathan Norman "Eschew Obfuscation"  Network Engineer
GPG Key ID 1024D/51F98BB7http://home.midco.net/~nnorman/
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RE: debian rocks

2000-07-30 Thread CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]
Hear ye..hear ye.you should join this list, then you'll really get a
feel of the Linux (and Debian GNU/Linux) community.

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Soulier [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 1:48 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  debian rocks
> 
> 
>   I have to tell you, the more I use Debian, the more I like
> it. It's not the big things. The big thing is that it's Linux. It's the
> little things. 
>   I go hunting for the default vimrc file installed when I grabbed
> vim. On every *nix system in the world, it's probably in a subdirectory of
> the install. On Debian, it's symlinked to files in /etc, where all the
> config files are and should be. Wasn't that way on Mandrake/RedHat. 
>   Kudos people. Don't let commercial interests screw it up or force
> you to be sloppy. This is a work of art. 
> 
>   Mike
> 
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RE: Starting GNOME (newbie question)

2000-07-30 Thread CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]
Try inserting gnome-session in either .xinitrc or Xsession.can't
remember which.

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> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Starting GNOME (newbie question)
> 
> I installed helix-gnome in my notebook and I want to know how to start
> it. What should I put in my .xinitrc file? I tried sawfish directly, but
> it doesn't work.
> 
> Sorry for the newbie question, but I'm a fvwm user and I'm used to put
> fvwm2 in my .xinitrc and create a .fvwm2rc and it's all! :-)
> 
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RE: mounting floppy

2000-07-30 Thread CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]
Have you tried insmod the autofs module before attempting the mount the said
RHL 6.2 floppy?

Patrick Cheong
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> -Original Message-
> From: Dale Morris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:57 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  mounting floppy
> 
> I'm trying to mount a floppy that I made with Redhat 6.2 system. It
> mounted on a previous install of potato, but I reinstalled and now  when I
> try to mount it I get the following  error message:
> [I cannot determine the file type and none was specified]
> This floppy has lots of stuff on it that I would like to use for
> configuration, such as .rc files and such. Any suggestions on what I've
> done wrong or how I can get it to mount?
> I superformatted a floppy (although I had to use the /sbin/mke2fs -c
> /dev/fd0 argument) and it mounts fine, as do msdos disks.
> thanks
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How to change I/O address

2000-07-30 Thread Nianwei Xing
Hi, Debians:
I have a question about network card. When I move my
computer to another place, I need reconfigure my
network. The situation is when I reboot my system with
my rescue disk and go to install, then configure
network and then I did all apropriate changes. However
It still doesn't work. After running ifconfig, I find
the base I/O address is strange, so does anybody know
how to change this I/O address or is there another way
to make it work?

Any information is appreciated !

Nianwei

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Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?

2000-07-30 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Take a look at the News section at the fortify site here:

http://www.fortify.net/intro.html 

Tom

Bruce Stephens wrote:
> 
> Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > 128 bit encryption is not available directly from installing Debian
> > packages. There's a few options as far as getting the 128 bit
> > encryption:
> 
> Is there some reason for this?
> 
> It seems at odds with the Debian changelog (see 4.73-17)
> http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/get-changelog?package=netscape-base-473>,
> so obviously someone thought it would be in the package at some point.
> What went wrong?
>



Re: current Redhat user evaluates Debian

2000-07-30 Thread John Hasler
Olaf Meeuwissen writes:
> Don't know about damaging or messing anything up, but certain modules may
> have to loaded during the boot.

Some drivers "probe" for their hardware by attempting to access various
ports.  In a few pathological cases, the probing by one driver will put
hardware belonging to another into a state that crashes or locks up the
system.  This is one of the major headaches of automatic hardware
detection.
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin



Re: StarOffice

2000-07-30 Thread Adam Bell
BTW, as long as we're on the subject...

If you managed to get it to install, maybe I should ask you this...how do 
you manager to run 5.2 as some user other than root?

--adam b.

>> Original Message <<

On 7/30/00, 7:18:25 PM, John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
regarding Re: StarOffice:


> Ed Cogburn wrote:
> >
> > Umum Wijoyo wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Are there any StarOffice packages available for Debian?
> > > If not, can I manually install StarOffice on a Debian machine (Will there
> > > be any problems whatsoever?)
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> >
> > I don't think there are any debian packages for it now, but that will
> > probably change at some point now that SO is open source.  No problem
> > installing SO 5.2 on debian woody.  Its a pig though, it needs 250MB.
> -
> I had no trouble installing and running 5.2 on a pure potato production
> system. I am still pondering how to use the Adabas D database system. I
> can not find any docs regarding the database, even on their (SoftwareAG)
> web site. Any Tipsare appreciated. BTW: I agree with Ed, the
> application is really a hog and needs to be streamlined and speeded up.
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Re: Is Debian the last OS ?

2000-07-30 Thread Mark Suter
Patrick,

> when I was last at humbug (about 6 months ago) everyone was using 
> redhat! what happened??
> 
> Did people like Ashley, matt and the like convert some people!?!?

My estimate of 2/5 is based on an understanding of all members,
a fair few of whom don't bring their boxes to the meetings and
treat the meetings as social occasions.

That said, there are certainly more Debian boxes at meetings now.
I have only recently switched over this year after prompting from
the Debian maintainers in the club.

This message is brought to you from my Debian desktop at work
sshing into my Debian box at home.  Both were Redhat installs
six months ago...

Yours sincerely,

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Re: Old ? Revisited. Was: [woody->potato, woody->slink, potato->slink?]

2000-07-30 Thread montefin
In early July, when Anthony first asked the question below, I sort of
kept my eye out for an answer or two on it:

"John Anthony Kazos Jr." wrote:
> 
> Out of sheerest curiosity, since I'm not having any problems with woody beyond
> the X/gpm mouse grabbing and X->fb corruption, is there a way to downgrade 
> from
> woody to potato, from woody to slink, and from potato to slink? I would 
> assume a
> forced apt-get dist-upgrade with appropriate lines in sources.list would do 
> the
> trick, but I've no desire to install and upgrade just to test.
>

Either I missed some responses, which may have gone directly to him, or
there wasn't much feedback on it.

In light of some recent discussions regarding apt-get, mixing releases,
etc., ...

Not to mention that I recently went to Woody...

I'd really like to hear about the reversability, bi-directionality,
whatever, capablilities built into apt-get, dselect and dpkg.

Has anyone actually done or at least attempted this?

Thanks for any light anyone can shed,

montefin



Re: current Redhat user evaluates Debian

2000-07-30 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
"John L. Fjellstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> And dselect is a really interesting utility, especially the ability
> to configure the packages after installation.

You can do that even _before_ installation now with potato for many
packages.

> The only thing during installation that was kind of weird was the
> questions about modules. My understanding of modules in Linux is
> that it doesn't matter if you have it compiled/installed.  modprobe
> will automagically load it into memory when you need it.  Not sure
> why the installation said you could damage(?)/mess up the
> installation if you installed a module for a hardware device you
> don't have.

Don't know about damaging or messing anything up, but certain modules
may have to loaded during the boot.  That is before modprobe can run.
These modules you will have to `install' during installation.  On one
of my machines I had to configure the eepro100 module.  If I didn't,
the whole network configuration just never happened and all network
services would be dead.

Just install without any modules if you can get away with it.  Chances
are you can.  If you need to install modules later use modconf.

-- 
Olaf Meeuwissen   Epson Kowa Corporation, Research and Development



RE: Cheetah PCI NIC

2000-07-30 Thread Kenrick, Chris
I replied to this before, but must have got lost in the ether...

On the accton website (somewhere) you can download the 
kernel module.  It is listed as a linux driver, and comes as 
a zip file 1207dlinux.zip.  Within that zip archive are three
files:

en1207d.c   Source code for the kernel module
en1207d.o   The kernel module
Linux.txt   Instructions for installing the module.

I followed the basic instructions in the Linux.txt file for 
installing the kernel module, and was then able to ping the
internal network... (I'm running the bog standard Slink
kernel, YMMV)

NB: The method described of inserting the module will only 
work until the next reboot.  To make more permanent
arrangements, you will need to look into update-modules
(I didn't get around to that step, myself, I was just happy
to see the card finally working)

PS: If you want me to send you the zip file, let me know ..
I have a copy here on my PC at work .. its only about 60K

- Chris Kenrick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 30 July 2000 2:04 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Cheetah PCI NIC


Hi all,

I do believe that this subject has been touched upon before. I was 
wondering if there is someone out there who has used a Cheetah PCI NIC 
from Accton.

I have installed it but do not know which module to use. I actually 
tried the NE2000 module I believe (not the PCI version for some reason 
or other) and Debian is able to see it but I can't seem to do anything 
with it.

Should I have used something else?

Also, as I am quite new to Linux,is there someone out there able to 
tell me how to go about changing the info to let debian know that the 
NIC has changed. The last few times, I just basically re-installed 
debian. I know this is not the proper way but I couldn't find any 
documentation on how to change this info.

Anywone able to help?

Allen



Re: StarOffice

2000-07-30 Thread John Foster
Ed Cogburn wrote:
> 
> Umum Wijoyo wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Are there any StarOffice packages available for Debian?
> > If not, can I manually install StarOffice on a Debian machine (Will there
> > be any problems whatsoever?)
> >
> > Thanks!
> 
> I don't think there are any debian packages for it now, but that will
> probably change at some point now that SO is open source.  No problem
> installing SO 5.2 on debian woody.  Its a pig though, it needs 250MB.
-
I had no trouble installing and running 5.2 on a pure potato production
system. I am still pondering how to use the Adabas D database system. I
can not find any docs regarding the database, even on their (SoftwareAG)
web site. Any Tipsare appreciated. BTW: I agree with Ed, the
application is really a hog and needs to be streamlined and speeded up.
-- 
AdVance-Computing Systems

We sell fine quality servers and workstations.
We specialize in multiprocessor units. 
We install Debian Linux at no extra charge!

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Changes in ext2

2000-07-30 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini

Hello,

 I do remember something about changes being made in ext2. (Would that
 be from the 2.0 to the 2.2 kernel series?)

 So, I'm running a woody system that was originally slink... I had
 slink installed, and then, instead of upgrading, I copied /, /usr,
 /var and /etc files from a friend's woody installation, and
 reconfigured all I needed. It's been perfect! But I suppose that the
 filesystem I'm using is the old ext2 (am I wrong?), even though I've
 been running only 2.2/2.3/2.4 kernels. 

 So, my questions are:

 - How can I really know if this is the case? (Is there a wy to
   inspect the filesystem format being used?)

 - Are there big or important differences between these two? (Is it
   worth trying to change it?)

 - And what woudl be the best wy to change? (I have free space in the
   hard disk)

Thanks a lot,
J.

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Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?

2000-07-30 Thread Bruce Stephens
Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 128 bit encryption is not available directly from installing Debian
> packages. There's a few options as far as getting the 128 bit
> encryption:

Is there some reason for this?

It seems at odds with the Debian changelog (see 4.73-17)
http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/get-changelog?package=netscape-base-473>,
so obviously someone thought it would be in the package at some point.
What went wrong?



Re: dhelp problem [SOLVED!]

2000-07-30 Thread Jens Müller

- Original Message -
From: "Jeronimo Pellegrini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lehel Bernadt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: dhelp problem [SOLVED!]


> So, all I had to do was to change
>
> Alias /doc/ /usr/doc/
>
> to
>
> Alias /doc/ /usr/share/doc/
>
> (Although I feel like I shouldn't need to do that - and that apache
>  should be able to follow the link...)
>
This is turned off by default, because following symlinks can be a security
risk. E.g. a user could put a symlink in his homedir, and then he could
access files through apache which he could not read otherwise.

Jens




Re: dhelp problem [SOLVED!]

2000-07-30 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
:: On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:31:36 +0300 (EEST), Lehel Bernadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
said:

>> I suppose there should be a "doc" directory under /var/www right?

> No. The /doc is mapped to /usr/doc as specified in /etc/apache/srm.conf:
> -
> Alias /doc/ /usr/doc/ 
>   
> ## The above line is for Debian webstandard 3.0, which specifies that /doc
>   
> ## refers to /usr/doc.  Some packages may not work otherwise. -- apacheconfig 
> -
> So check if /usr/doc/HTML/ exists.

Ah, ok. well, yes, there is a /usr/doc/HTML, which is a link to
/usr/share/doc (aha!)

So, all I had to do was to change

Alias /doc/ /usr/doc/

to

Alias /doc/ /usr/share/doc/

(Although I feel like I shouldn't need to do that - and that apache
 should be able to follow the link...)

Thanks a lot!

J.

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Re: Is Debian the last OS ?

2000-07-30 Thread Patrick Barr

when I was last at humbug (about 6 months ago) everyone was using 
redhat! what happened??

Did people like Ashley, matt and the like convert some people!?!?



On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:49:50 Peter Good wrote:
> Being relatively new to Linux (only year and 1/2), my first go at Debian
> was slink. Recommended to me by a friend (an ISP), it seemed the way to
> go. I'd just started Uni, and had a brand new laptop, that for the life
> of me, I couldn't configure X on, so Debian got dumped in favour of
> Redhat, which I stayed with for about 6 months. Then I managed to get a
> P200, and I immediately switched back to Debian and have been using it
> ever since, much easier to use in my opinion.
> 
> Mark Suter wrote:
> > 
> > Folks,
> > 
> > How common is the "Debian last" practice, that is, try other
> > distributions (including non-GNU/Linux) and then come to Debian
> > to stay?
> > 
> > Within Humbug[1], approximately 2/5 of the membership are now
> > Debian users; however, only a few went straight to Debian.
> 
> 
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Re: Is Debian the last OS ?

2000-07-30 Thread Peter Good
Being relatively new to Linux (only year and 1/2), my first go at Debian
was slink. Recommended to me by a friend (an ISP), it seemed the way to
go. I'd just started Uni, and had a brand new laptop, that for the life
of me, I couldn't configure X on, so Debian got dumped in favour of
Redhat, which I stayed with for about 6 months. Then I managed to get a
P200, and I immediately switched back to Debian and have been using it
ever since, much easier to use in my opinion.

Mark Suter wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> How common is the "Debian last" practice, that is, try other
> distributions (including non-GNU/Linux) and then come to Debian
> to stay?
> 
> Within Humbug[1], approximately 2/5 of the membership are now
> Debian users; however, only a few went straight to Debian.


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Re: t-dsl

2000-07-30 Thread Jens Müller
afaik ppoe is a standard kernel module.  Maybe there are also some packages.
Your Denglish is quite good ;-)

Jens
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 10:13 PM
Subject: t-dsl




Re: dhelp problem

2000-07-30 Thread Jens Müller

- Original Message -
From: "Jeronimo Pellegrini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 10:04 PM
Subject: dhelp problem


>  I suppose there should be a "doc" directory under /var/www right?
>  There's not:
>
> socrates www$ ll /var/www/
>
> total 2
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   18 Jul 30 14:36 dwww ->
/var/lib/dwww/html
> -rw-r--r--1 root root   27 Jul 30 14:13 index.html
> drwxr-xr-x4 root root 1024 May  3 03:19 usr
>
> socrates www$
>

There is none, /var/ is an alias defined in your httpd.conf


Jens




RE: dhelp problem

2000-07-30 Thread Lehel Bernadt

On 30-Jul-2000 Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>  I have used dhelp for a while in a standalone woody box, and all
>  worked fine. Now I've  installed apache and glimpse (to use the
>  search feature)... And things seemed to stop working:
> 
>  After installing apache, glimpse, and reinstalling dhelp (probably
>  not necesary, but I did it anyway), dhelp says I have no
>  permission to access http://localhost/doc/HTML/index.html
> 
>  I suppose there should be a "doc" directory under /var/www right?

No. The /doc is mapped to /usr/doc as specified in /etc/apache/srm.conf:
-
Alias /doc/ /usr/doc/   
## The above line is for Debian webstandard 3.0, which specifies that /doc  
## refers to /usr/doc.  Some packages may not work otherwise. -- apacheconfig 
-
So check if /usr/doc/HTML/ exists.



RE: t-dsl

2000-07-30 Thread Pollywog

On 30-Jul-2000 Mithrandir wrote:
> Hi All ;)
> 
> Ich have a question too all of you, concerning t-dsl. Where can I get a
> Kernel-patch for the pppoE (it would be nice, if it is for 2.3.99, but if
> not
> no problem (I hope)).

I use Roaring Penguin for DSL, but you can get patches for PPP 2.4.x if you
want to use the PPPoE kernel module that comes with the 2.4.0 test kernels.

Roaring Penguin was the easiest way to connect with DSL.

http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/~mostrows/  <-- patches for PPP

http://www.roaringpenguin.com

--
Andrew




Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?

2000-07-30 Thread Tom Pfeifer
128 bit encryption is not available directly from installing Debian
packages. There's a few options as far as getting the 128 bit
encryption:

1) Install normally using the Debian package(s). This will install the
56 bit version. Then use the fortify packages (fortify and
fortify-linux-x86) to install the 128 bit encryption. The fortify
packages are in the non-US distribution, but it only works with versions
up to and including 4.72. The Debian packages will install to
/usr/lib/netscape.

OR 

2) Install by downloading the 128 bit version directly from Netscape.
This will be in the form of a tar.gz file and after extracting the file
to a setup directory, the included 'ns-install' script is run to install
the program to /usr/local/netscape (by default). 

OR

3) If you want to install version 4.73 using Debian packages AND want
128 bit encryption, the fortify packages will not work for that version.
What you do can in that case (or with any version) is to also install
(temporarily) the 'direct from Netscape' tar.gz version just to get the
128 bit binary. You can then copy that binary over the 56 bit version
installed by the Debian package. I just did this today on my potato box
with Communicator 4.73. The binary copy was like this:

cp /usr/local/netscape/netscape
/usr/lib/netscape/473/communicator/communicator-smotif.real

Tom


Mathew Johnston wrote:
> 
> is there a 128 bit encryption netscape package floating around? I cant
> find it in my packages list.
> 
> Thanks :)
> Mat.
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Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?

2000-07-30 Thread Robert L. Harris


is there a Package for the 128bit version?

Thus spake Patrick Dahiroc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> download the linux binary from the download page at home.netscape.com.
> 
> http://home.netscape.com/download/0718100/1-en-linux2.2-4.74-complete-128_qual.html
> 
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:01:43PM -0400, Mathew Johnston wrote:
> > is there a 128 bit encryption netscape package floating around? I cant
> > find it in my packages list.
> > 
> > Thanks :)
> > Mat.
> > 
> > 
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t-dsl

2000-07-30 Thread Mithrandir
Hi All ;)

Ich have a question too all of you, concerning t-dsl. Where can I get a
Kernel-patch for the pppoE (it would be nice, if it is for 2.3.99, but if not
no problem (I hope)).

For any further infos of how installing and so on, I would be very happy;))

Thanks for all

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Re: mutt/muttrc problem

2000-07-30 Thread Dale Morris
I have solved the problem by changing muttrc files. All is working now.



dhelp problem

2000-07-30 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini

Hello,

 I have used dhelp for a while in a standalone woody box, and all
 worked fine. Now I've  installed apache and glimpse (to use the
 search feature)... And things seemed to stop working:

 After installing apache, glimpse, and reinstalling dhelp (probably
 not necesary, but I did it anyway), dhelp says I have no
 permission to access http://localhost/doc/HTML/index.html

 I suppose there should be a "doc" directory under /var/www right?
 There's not:

socrates www$ ll /var/www/

total 2
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   18 Jul 30 14:36 dwww -> 
/var/lib/dwww/html
-rw-r--r--1 root root   27 Jul 30 14:13 index.html
drwxr-xr-x4 root root 1024 May  3 03:19 usr

socrates www$ 

 I saw no bug filed against dhelp which could be related to this, and
 nothing in the list archives either. What could be happening? And
 where could be all those docs?

 Apache seems to be ok (I've acessed http://localhost without problems)

Thanks a lot!

J.

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ADSL CICSO 675 Debian

2000-07-30 Thread Art Edwards
(I hope) I'm in the middle of setting up DSL on my potato box. I have
been reading the lists and than Pollywog and others for their posts. I
have installed the ppoe package and have followed all of the
instructions. I am using the Cisco 675 router set in the ppp,
unconfigured mode. The WAN light is steady, indicating that the router
has logged into my ISP. My LAN light is also on. My LAN ACT light blinks
regularly. However, I get the following errors in the following files.

In Syslog

Jul 30 13:25:37 Monk pppd[103]: Using interface ppp0
Jul 30 13:25:37 Monk pppd[103]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/2
Jul 30 13:25:41 Monk pppoe[106]: Timeout waiting for PADO packets
Jul 30 13:26:07 Monk pppd[103]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Jul 30 13:26:07 Monk pppd[103]: Connection terminated.
Jul 30 13:26:07 Monk pppd[103]: Using interface ppp0
Jul 30 13:26:07 Monk pppd[103]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/0
Jul 30 13:26:12 Monk pppoe[306]: Timeout waiting for PADO packets
Jul 30 13:26:37 Monk pppd[103]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Jul 30 13:26:37 Monk pppd[103]: Connection terminated.

If I were to guess, it seems that the router cannot make contact with my
computer through eth0. Any help would be very greatfully accepted.

Art Edwards
 
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Re: Dvorak keyboard layout

2000-07-30 Thread Krzys Majewski
On the console,

loadkeys  /usr/local/share/keymaps/dvorak.map

although the location of this file seems to have changed at some point.
It used to be 

/usr/lib/kbd/keytables/dvorak.map.

In X, you'll need put the appropriate file in ~/.Xmodmap. 
I'll attach one here, hope nobody minds..


!
! This is an `xmodmap' input file
! for PC 101 key keyboard #2 (Linux/XFree86 US layout) keyboards.
! This file was automatically generated on Wed Nov  2 10:29:07 1994
! by Ryszard Mikke with XKeyCaps 2.11;
! Copyright 1991-1994 Jamie Zawinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
!
! This file makes the following changes:
!
! The "& 7" key generates 7, ampersand, and section
! The "E" key generates e, E, ecircumflex, and Ecircumflex
! The "O" key generates o, O, oacute, and Oacute
! The "A" key generates a, A, plusminus, and exclamdown
! The "S" key generates s, S, paragraph, and brokenbar
! The "L" key generates l, L, threesuperior, and sterling
! The "Z" key generates z, Z, questiondown, and macron
! The "X" key generates x, X, onequarter, and notsign
! The "C" key generates c, C, ae, and AE
! The "N" key generates n, N, ntilde, and Ntilde
! The "Alt" key generates Mode_switch

keycode 0x09 =  Escape
keycode 0x43 =  F1
keycode 0x44 =  F2
keycode 0x45 =  F3
keycode 0x46 =  F4
keycode 0x47 =  F5
keycode 0x48 =  F6
keycode 0x49 =  F7
keycode 0x4A =  F8
keycode 0x4B =  F9
keycode 0x4C =  F10
keycode 0x5F =  F11
keycode 0x60 =  F12
keycode 0x6F =  Print
keycode 0x4E =  Multi_key
keycode 0x6E =  Pause
keycode 0x31 =  grave   asciitilde
keycode 0x0A =  1   exclam
keycode 0x0B =  2   at
keycode 0x0C =  3   numbersign
keycode 0x0D =  4   dollar
keycode 0x0E =  5   percent
keycode 0x0F =  6   asciicircum
keycode 0x10 =  7   ampersand   section
keycode 0x11 =  8   asterisk
keycode 0x12 =  9   parenleft
keycode 0x13 =  0   parenright
keycode 0x14 =  minus   underscore
keycode 0x15 =  equal   plus
keycode 0x33 =  backslash   bar
keycode 0x16 =  BackSpace
keycode 0x6A =  Insert
keycode 0x61 =  Home
keycode 0x63 =  Prior
keycode 0x4D =  Num_Lock
keycode 0x70 =  KP_Divide
keycode 0x3F =  KP_Multiply
keycode 0x52 =  KP_Subtract
keycode 0x17 =  Tab
keycode 0x18 =  slash   question
keycode 0x19 =  comma   less
keycode 0x1A =  period  greater
keycode 0x1B =  p   P
keycode 0x1C =  y   Y
keycode 0x1D =  f   F
keycode 0x1E =  g   G
keycode 0x1F =  c   C   ae  AE
keycode 0x20 =  r   R
keycode 0x21 =  l   L   threesuperior   sterling
keycode 0x22 =  bracketleft braceleft
keycode 0x23 =  bracketrightbraceright
keycode 0x24 =  Return
keycode 0x6B =  Delete
keycode 0x67 =  End
keycode 0x69 =  Next
keycode 0x4F =  KP_7
keycode 0x50 =  KP_8
keycode 0x51 =  KP_9
keycode 0x56 =  KP_Add
keycode 0x42 =  Control_L
keycode 0x26 =  a   A   plusminus   exclamdown
keycode 0x27 =  o   O   oacute  Oacute
keycode 0x28 =  e   E   ecircumflex Ecircumflex
keycode 0x29 =  u   U
keycode 0x2A =  i   I
keycode 0x2B =  d   D
keycode 0x2C =  h   H
keycode 0x2D =  t   T
keycode 0x2E =  n   N   ntilde  Ntilde
keycode 0x2F =  s   S   paragraph   brokenbar
keycode 0x30 =  apostrophe  quotedbl
keycode 0x53 =  KP_4
keycode 0x54 =  KP_5
keycode 0x55 =  KP_6
keycode 0x32 =  Shift_L
keycode 0x34 =  semicolon   colon   
keycode 0x35 =  q   Q
keycode 0x36 =  j   J
keycode 0x37 =  k   K
keycode 0x38 =  x   X   onequarter  notsign
keycode 0x39 =  b   B
keycode 0x3A =  M
keycode 0x3B =  w   W
keycode 0x3C =  v   V
keycode 0x3D =  z   Z   questiondownmacron
keycode 0x3E =  Shift_R
keycode 0x62 =  Up
keycode 0x57 =  KP_1
keycode 0x58 =  KP_2
keycode 0x59 =  KP_3
keycode 0x6C =  KP_Enter
keycode 0x25 =  Caps_Lock
keycode 0x40 =  Alt_L   Meta_L
keycode 0x41 =  space
keycode 0x71 =  Mode_switch
keycode 0x6D =  Control_R
keycode 0x64 =  Left
keycode 0x68 =  Down
keycode 0x66 =  Right
keycode 0x5A =  KP_0
keycode 0x5B =  KP_Decimal

clear Shift
clear Lock
clear Control
clear Mod1
clear Mod2
clear Mod3
clear Mod4
clear Mod5

addShift   = Shift_L Shift_R
addLock= Caps_Lock
addControl = Control_L Control_R
addMod1= Alt_L Mode_switch



Re: httpd and directories

2000-07-30 Thread Frodo Baggins
Patrick Dahiroc scripsit:
>On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 01:54:40PM -0500, Sean Richardson wrote:
>> Look in /etc/apache/srm.conf
>> 
>> Alias /doc/ /usr/doc/
>> ## The above line is for Debian Policy 3.0.1 (FHS), which specifies that /doc
>> ## is /usr/share/doc.  Packages should symlink to share/doc. --apacheconfig
>
>ah so that's where it's being set.  thanks. it also gives a warning
>that "Some packages may not work otherwise" with out this alias - so i
>won't bother removing it.  i was just a little worried that apache can
>see some directories without me specifiying it.

You may be interested in knowing that I can't access to that
directory... May be that the directory is specified as local?

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Re: mutt/muttrc problem

2000-07-30 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 10:26:31AM -0700, Dale Morris wrote:

> 1.) Is there some type of securinty *switch* or configuration file in
> Woody that I didn't have in my potato distribution before that is
> stopping mail from being sent in my user directory?

Take a look in the contents of /var/log/exim/mainlog.  Something is
stopping the command line sendmail interface from working, and you
should be able to see any errors produced there.  

Running the following command might give you some error output:

$ /usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Test mail du01  

This is a test mail.
.

[ie, run "/usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]" and then type in
everything up to the '.'.  You should substitute your e-mail address for
mine in the above.

> 2.) Would it change or help if I uninstalled Exim and installed
> Sendmail?

Even if it did help it's probably a bad idea: sendmail is a complex
piece of software and unless you know what you're doing or have
fairly specialised requirements.

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Re: Sound card trouble

2000-07-30 Thread Justin Camblin
Here is the error message I recieve when I attempt to install Aureal 
sound drivers:

/sbin/modprobe au8810
/lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/au8810.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including 
invalid IO or IRQ parameters
/lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/au8810.o: insmod 
/lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/au8810.o failed
/lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/au8810.o: insmod au8810 failed
make[1]: [install] Error 255 (ignored)
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/au88xx-1.0.5'

hope this helps.

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Re: httpd and directories

2000-07-30 Thread Patrick Dahiroc
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 01:54:40PM -0500, Sean Richardson wrote:
> Look in /etc/apache/srm.conf
> 
> Alias /doc/ /usr/doc/
> ## The above line is for Debian Policy 3.0.1 (FHS), which specifies that /doc
> ## is /usr/share/doc.  Packages should symlink to share/doc. --apacheconfig

ah so that's where it's being set.  thanks. it also gives a warning
that "Some packages may not work otherwise" with out this alias - so i
won't bother removing it.  i was just a little worried that apache can
see some directories without me specifiying it.

-- 
"As a general rule, if you have trouble 
 with the binary system, then probably it 
 is because you do not really understand 
 the decimal system ..."
R.W. Hamming



Re: sendmail error 553

2000-07-30 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:45:28PM +0200, Stefan Ott wrote:

> i got two strange problems with sendmail on my potato (i386, kernel

Is there any particular reason why you're running Sendmail?

> ... while talking to mail.desire.ch.:
> >>> MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=513
> <<< 553 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... >cockroach<@desire.ch.
> 501 5.6.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data format er

Your address rewriting seems to be seriously fscked.  It seems that the
address is being rewritten to garbage which is then rejected since it is
meaningless gunk.  The ">cockroach<@desire.ch." appears to be the
problem.

I'd suggest either trying another MTA or buying the bat book and looking
at how address rewriting should be done in there.

> if i use a different mail program (tested with netscape messenger) it
> works.

How is Messenger trying to get the mail out?  I'd guess it's bypassing
whichever sendmail thinks it can do rewriting.

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Re: [Updated] PPP Rx errors...

2000-07-30 Thread John Hasler
John Carline writes:
> I had compiled both ppp and slip into the 2.2.16 kernel, and evidently
> they didn't play well together.

There is no good reason they shouldn't.
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RE: 128 bit encryption netscape?

2000-07-30 Thread Pollywog

On 30-Jul-2000 Mathew Johnston wrote:
> is there a 128 bit encryption netscape package floating around? I cant
> find it in my packages list.

Sounds as though you are looking for the 'Fortify' package.

--
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Re: 128 bit encryption netscape?

2000-07-30 Thread Patrick Dahiroc
download the linux binary from the download page at home.netscape.com.

http://home.netscape.com/download/0718100/1-en-linux2.2-4.74-complete-128_qual.html

On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:01:43PM -0400, Mathew Johnston wrote:
> is there a 128 bit encryption netscape package floating around? I cant
> find it in my packages list.
> 
> Thanks :)
> Mat.
> 
> 
> 
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 is because you do not really understand 
 the decimal system ..."
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A DosEmu problem

2000-07-30 Thread bsamuels
Debian Potato (Frozen) with Slink KDE

I have installed the DosEmu package and set it up as per included
instructions by creating a boot directory in /var/lib/dosemu with
soft links to the appropriate Dos files.

As Root I can run the emulator and the Dos application, that I
want to run, with no problems.  As a user the Dos application
displays an error because it tries to create a log file on the
Dos disc and fails because I don't have root permissions.

I know that I can 'su' first and then run it but I want to set
the process up as a script that starts the application without
user intervention i.e. having to enter a password.

Is there a way round this?

Also as I'm running the xdos version if I do 'su' I get an x
server error:

xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
xlib: Client is not authorised to connect to server

Another slight problem is in setting up the emulator this way it
cannot be closed down using exitemu because exitemu doesn't exist
in the boot directory.

Is there also a way round that.

Barry Samuels



128 bit encryption netscape?

2000-07-30 Thread Mathew Johnston
is there a 128 bit encryption netscape package floating around? I cant
find it in my packages list.

Thanks :)
Mat.




Re: httpd and directories

2000-07-30 Thread Sean Richardson
Look in /etc/apache/srm.conf

Alias /doc/ /usr/doc/
## The above line is for Debian Policy 3.0.1 (FHS), which specifies that /doc
## is /usr/share/doc.  Packages should symlink to share/doc. --apacheconfig

This is the alias that sets up /usr/share/doc to appear as /doc on your
web server.

Remove that line...then do /etc/init.d/apache reload

and /doc should disappear...if thats what you want

-sean



On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 02:43:10PM -0400, Patrick Dahiroc wrote:
> hi all
> 
> i've installed apache web server and i am puzzled as to how it can see 
> my /usr/share/doc or /usr/doc directory.  i was under the impression
> that by default all directory lookup begin at /var/www.  so to go
> http://www.dahiroc.net/doc the directory /var/www/doc must
> exist.  however in my /var/www directory i don't have a 'doc'
> directory or link - just an index.html.  yet i can go to
> http://www.dahiroc.net/doc.  can someone give a reason for this and
> how do i stop apache from looking in my /usr/share/doc directory.
> 
> -- 
> "As a general rule, if you have trouble 
>  with the binary system, then probably it 
>  is because you do not really understand 
>  the decimal system ..."
>   R.W. Hamming
> 
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Re: httpd and directories

2000-07-30 Thread Jens Müller

- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Dahiroc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 8:43 PM
Subject: httpd and directories


> hi all
>
> i've installed apache web server and i am puzzled as to how it can see
> my /usr/share/doc or /usr/doc directory.  i was under the impression
> that by default all directory lookup begin at /var/www.  so to go
> http://www.dahiroc.net/doc the directory /var/www/doc must
> exist.  however in my /var/www directory i don't have a 'doc'
> directory or link - just an index.html.  yet i can go to
> http://www.dahiroc.net/doc.  can someone give a reason for this and
> how do i stop apache from looking in my /usr/share/doc directory.
well, look in your httpd.conf. There will probably be an alias pointing to
that directory.

Jens




httpd and directories

2000-07-30 Thread Patrick Dahiroc
hi all

i've installed apache web server and i am puzzled as to how it can see 
my /usr/share/doc or /usr/doc directory.  i was under the impression
that by default all directory lookup begin at /var/www.  so to go
http://www.dahiroc.net/doc the directory /var/www/doc must
exist.  however in my /var/www directory i don't have a 'doc'
directory or link - just an index.html.  yet i can go to
http://www.dahiroc.net/doc.  can someone give a reason for this and
how do i stop apache from looking in my /usr/share/doc directory.

-- 
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 with the binary system, then probably it 
 is because you do not really understand 
 the decimal system ..."
R.W. Hamming



Re: mutt/muttrc problem

2000-07-30 Thread Morten Liebach
On 30, jul, 2000 at 10:26:31 -0700, Dale Morris wrote:
> I have posted this or a similar message a couple of times, it hasn't
> shown up on my mail system and I'm having problems with sending mail so
> if it appears I'm flooding the list, it's not intentional.

I haven't seen any, so you system is as fsck'ed up it seems ;-)

> My problem is I can't send mail with mutt 1.2i using Thomas Rossler's
> (or any other, for that matter) ultimate muttrc config file. However I
> can send mail using Netscape and outgoing mail configured to be sent
> through local host. I have Exim configured and am updated Potato, to
> Woody. Previously Potato worked fine with mutt. My questions are:

I'll just interrupt here; did mutt work with that same ~/.muttrc back in
potato?
If so, was that with the same version of mutt?

If you have upgraded mutt along the way, and kept the ~/.muttrc then
things _will_ break.

> 1.) Is there some type of securinty *switch* or configuration file in
> Woody that I didn't have in my potato distribution before that is
> stopping mail from being sent in my user directory?
 
Dunno.

> 2.) Would it change or help if I uninstalled Exim and installed
> Sendmail?
 
Maybe, but it might not be an MTA problem ...

> 3.) Is there an easy Sendmail configuration script in a debian package
> like Eximconfig? When I had Redhat on my machine, I was able to get a
> script called install_sendmail from freshmeat.net that made it a breeze
> to configure Sendmail.

There is a sendmailconfig in Debian, much in the same way as for exim.
 
> Thanks for any and all help
 
You're welcome.

A good place for problems like this is the mutt-users list, go to
http://www.mutt.org/ and find their mailinglists section and subscribe,
I've learned tons of good stuff there.
 
> --dale

HTH

Morten

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Re: [Updated] PPP Rx errors...

2000-07-30 Thread John Carline
Just to complete my part of this thread, I found my ppp problem.

I had compiled both ppp and slip into the 2.2.16 kernel, and evidently they 
didn't play
well together.  The new kernel (without slip) is working well.

John


John Carline wrote:

> Sean Richardson wrote:
>
> > Well... I have continued to play with this...switching between suse and
> > debian...and have been able to partially fix the problem.
> >
> > By setting my wvdial baud rate down to 57600 from 115200 i get only
> > 1 error in 1000 packets... which is respectable...
> >
> > However, I would still like to know why 115200 works without a single
> > error on the SuSE setup...but with the same settings debian gives me
> > errors...
> >
> > I am using an external USR v.everything modem on a 16550A serial port...
> >
> > The SuSE box was 6.4 with a 2.2.14 kernel..and the debian box is potato
> > with the 2.2.15 kernel... all the versions seem to be the same (wvdial,
> > pppd, etc...)
> >
> > any ideas? anyone?
>
> My first guess is that it's either the difference in the kernel or how the 
> kernel was
> compiled. One way to tell would be to do a quick compile of the 2.2.14 kernel 
> with
> the same options you had selected with SuSE and see if that cures the problem.
>
> I know that currently on my box the 2.2.14 gives me better ppp performance 
> then the
> 2.2.16.
>
> After compiling 2.2.16 yesterday my ppp became very erratic - sometimes 
> connecting
> with either a crummy baud rate or a good baud rate with no transfer of data. 
> When I
> boot with my 2.2.14 boot floppy, wvdial and pppd work flawlessly.  Since in my
> experience most of these problems are caused by the user (me :-)) I'm going to
> recompile the 2.2.16 with exactly the same selections as the 2.2.14 and see 
> if the
> problem goes away.
>
> If I find any definitive answer, I'll post the results. If not.. I'll keep
> searching.
>
> John
>
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mutt/muttrc problem

2000-07-30 Thread Dale Morris
I have posted this or a similar message a couple of times, it hasn't
shown up on my mail system and I'm having problems with sending mail so
if it appears I'm flooding the list, it's not intentional.
My problem is I can't send mail with mutt 1.2i using Thomas Rossler's
(or any other, for that matter) ultimate muttrc config file. However I
can send mail using Netscape and outgoing mail configured to be sent
through local host. I have Exim configured and am updated Potato, to
Woody. Previously Potato worked fine with mutt. My questions are:
1.) Is there some type of securinty *switch* or configuration file in
Woody that I didn't have in my potato distribution before that is
stopping mail from being sent in my user directory?

2.) Would it change or help if I uninstalled Exim and installed
Sendmail?

3.) Is there an easy Sendmail configuration script in a debian package
like Eximconfig? When I had Redhat on my machine, I was able to get a
script called install_sendmail from freshmeat.net that made it a breeze
to configure Sendmail.

Thanks for any and all help


--dale





suppressing ip-up/down scripts with pppd?

2000-07-30 Thread Chris R. Martin
Is there any option you can give to pppd that will suppress the running of 
the scripts in the ip-up.d and ip-down.d ?? I'm trying to set up a vpn 
using ppp but it seems like that this will cause a problem when I start the 
second pppd process (I use a dynamic DNS service, and I definitely don't 
want that script to run again).


thanks
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Re: Is Debian the last OS ?

2000-07-30 Thread Aaron Solochek
When my friends at school freshmen year all bagered me for using windows, I 
agreed to
let them install linux on my machine.  The first go was slackware, but because 
my
computer was all brand new hardware, there wasn't any support in linux for it.  
So
that didn't go very far.  We then tried "andrew-linux" the CMU hacked up 
redhat,  but
ran into similar problems on that front.  After waiting a little bit, a 
different
friend decided to help me with debian.  Basically, everyone was pushing on me 
the
distro that they themselves used, and in the end, the friend who had the 
ambition to
go build a working kernel for my system in the clusters won out.

I found the interface to dselect very difficult to deal with, I would get 
caught in
these dependancy loops and not know how to get out of them, but this subject 
has been
beaten to death on this list.

Eventually I learned all I needed to know, and am VERY glad that I ended up with
debain.  I have since installed a few red hat systems and caldera once, but 
(and it
may be because of my knowledge of debian) I found those to be a pain.

So, I don't know if that counts as debian-last, because although it was, it had
nothing to do with trying others and not liking them.

I would like to say tough, caldera's installer was so nice compared to debians. 
 I've
done over 50 debian installs, and I still found the caldera one better.  PLUS 
it lets
you play tetris while it copies files over.   Too bad the out of the box 
networking
was screwed up.

-Aaron Solochek
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Is Debian the last OS ?

2000-07-30 Thread John Carline
Mark Suter wrote:

> Folks,
>
> How common is the "Debian last" practice, that is, try other
> distributions (including non-GNU/Linux) and then come to Debian
> to stay?

 


While the "Debian last" practice is probably the most common way that
users become "Debian" users, it's in my opinion the poorest.

When I decided that I had had enough of  "Gates garbage", I gathered
as much information as I could about the different distributions and
found that the GNU concept was being followed most closely by Debian -
that was enough for me. So I placed an order at CheapBytes - Hamm had
just been released.

Meanwhile I bought a linux book that contained a copy of Caldera and
tried to get that running. A week later my Debian disks arrived
(Caldera was still not running). I stuck the Debian 2.0 CD in my
drive, loaded Hamm (it ran right out of the box - so much for the
"hard to install" myth), and I haven't looked back since.

Since that time I've loaded Red Hat, Caldera, Mandrake and Slakeware
on spare hard drives just to see how well they perform. I found that
none are really any easier than Debian, they just have fewer choices
and packages. I've also watched co-workers pay good money for RedHat
and Mandrake and never get them to run correctly on their system. Try
convincing them that they're easy for first time users.

I guess what I'm saying is that anyone that's advising newbys to start
with other distributions and then switch to Debian are actually doing
them a disservice. If you don't think so just scan the archives of
this list and see how many questions there are like "on my (RedHat,
Mandrake, SuSe etc.) box  worked perfectly. Why doesn't
Debian work right". The answer in virtually every case is that Debian
does *work right*, but the user is trying to use a non-debian
non-GNU method, configuration, or tool.

IMHO if it's not GNU and/or it's not Debian dump it.

*Debian First*

John


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Re: Wine Windows Emulator

2000-07-30 Thread Francesco Bochicchio
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 02:23:20AM -0700, Thomas Loredo wrote:
> I am a newbie to the Linux OS and I am using Corel Linux.  I was trying to 
> install the Wine emulator and can't figure out how to do this, if anyone can 
> help please do so?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom Loredo

You should use dselect, or a similar Package Manager program (I half remember 
that Corel
has a sort of 'gnome-apt'), to install the debian packages named
'libwine' and 'wine'.

My advise : if you think to run all or most of your windows programs with wine, 
you could be disappointed. As far as I know, it is still ALPHA-quality software,
and many window applications do not run under it. Last time I checked, I 
downloaded
their March 2000 release (2326) and the most complex program I could run 
was 
Paint.(I'm sure it can do more than this; not with my programs, anyway).

Moreover, the version with ships with Corel is probably old ( I don't know : on
the network edition CD I have, wine is not present ).

If you want to run a single application or a few ones, you may be lucky. Before
installing wine, I suggest to check their web site: they keep a list of all the 
programs which have successfully run under Wine. 

Ciao
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Re: Is Debian the last OS ?

2000-07-30 Thread Jens Müller

- Original Message -
From: "I. Tura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mark Suter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Is Debian the last OS ?


>On the other hand... I've never seen any stastics telling what are the
>most used GNU distros. I know that more or less RedHat, SuSE, Mandrake and
>Debian are the most used, but are there more exact stastics? (Damn lies,
>stastics...) Hello Joey if you read me, nice reply you told to that
>Security in Linux reviewer :)

Well, I once tried SuSE for a short time before I changed over to Debian,
and I must say it really sucks.

But I still use Windows for everyday working... I just don't have much time
to experiment with Linux...

Jens




Re: Is Debian the last OS ?

2000-07-30 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Most newcomers to Linux will (understandably) start with a commercial
distribution that they can find shrink wrapped on the shelves. That
pretty much rules Debian out for them, but those who discover it later
on tend to stick with it.

Completely new to Linux/Unix, I started with Redhat 4.1, and then later
Caldera, and didn't get too far with either one. I got them installed
but was pretty much lost after that when it came to configuring them,
installing software etc.. Finally I stumbled across a couple of posts
about Debian that stirred my interest. I just went to the web site,
started reading, downloaded a few files, and soon had the base system
installed - this was the bo distribution.

Contrary to most, I found Debian to be easier to learn. With the others,
the whole system got installed right up front from the CD. But with
Debian, I installed it piece by piece, package by package because I was
downloading it over a modem. Dealing with it in smaller chunks I found
myself leaning how to configure it, catching on to the package system
etc., and soon was hooked for good.

Tom


Mark Suter wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> How common is the "Debian last" practice, that is, try other
> distributions (including non-GNU/Linux) and then come to Debian
> to stay?
> 
> Within Humbug[1], approximately 2/5 of the membership are now
> Debian users; however, only a few went straight to Debian.
> 
> For me, Debian is the high point in most respects on a long road.
> In my work as a Systems Administrator I have used Solaris, Irix,
> Digital Unix, FreeBSD, OpenBSD and GNU/Linux.  Within GNU/Linux,
> I've used MCC Interim Release, Yggdrasil, Slakware, Redhat and
> Debian.
> 
> I still use all the non-GNU/Linux systems at work and they *do*
> have advantages, e.g. OpenBSD for security and crypto or Solaris
> for some serious 64 processor hardware; however, I believe that
> "Debian last" has allowed me to appreciate how good Debian
> GNU/Linux really is.
> 
> Debian is improving all the time.  Given the nature of the Debian
> distribution, I think that it is inevitable that Debian attract
> more first-time users.
> 
> I believe that Debian will get there without needing to force it
> in that direction.  For example, we Debian does auto-detection,
> it will be done *right* and this will be one step towards the
> "first distro" status.
> 
> In any system that novices can use, the challenge is to scale
> to expert users.  By aiming at the expert/developer end of the
> spectrum, Debian has avoided this very difficult problem.
> 
> Yours sincerely,
> 
> -- Mark John Suter  | I know that you  believe  you understand
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | what you think I said, but I am not sure
> GPG key id F2FEBB36 | you realise that what you  heard  is not
> Ph: +61 4 1126 2316 | what I meant.  anonymous
> 
> [1] http://www.humbug.org.au/
> 
>   
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Re: Is Debian the last OS ?

2000-07-30 Thread I. Tura
At 00.28 31/7/00 +1000, Mark Suter ha escrit:
>Folks,
>
>How common is the "Debian last" practice, that is, try other
>distributions (including non-GNU/Linux) and then come to Debian
>to stay?


My experience can't be the most usual, but well, it's my experience :)

My first GNU/L installation was Debian Hamm in 1998. I had no trouble in
the installation, but I got somewhat confused in dselect and when Debian
ended loading I got much more confused with the prompt. I colud not
distinguish between files and directories and this annoyed me a lot. Apart,
I had some strange problems with W95 A, the excrement I was using by that
times, and everytime I loaded Debian with the floppy, then, W95 did not
loaded. The ext2 partition kept sleeping for months...

Then I used RedHat (not bad, but I had some hardware problems related to
power and I ruined a HDD) and Corel (quite disappointing). I used more
recently Slackware but I remembered Debian, and with more knowledge of the
theme, I started using Debian, which is the OS I want to run and running
now in two machines of my home.

As the only "Linux experts" (lots of laugh) that are in my circle of
friends and relatives are a friend and me, and we are debianists, we always
recommend Debian as the only GNU/L distribution to use and start with.

The main points that I use in defending Debian is:

-Transparency (that overrides "ease of use"). 
-Honesty.
-Robustness.
-Versatility (no 1Gb installations).
-High-tech.
-Non-commercial and progressive.
-Technical support (we! :)  )

The only problem I can find it's if the potential user does not have
fluent English.


I don't talk as sysadmin, but as desktop user.


On the other hand... I've never seen any stastics telling what are the
most used GNU distros. I know that more or less RedHat, SuSE, Mandrake and
Debian are the most used, but are there more exact stastics? (Damn lies,
stastics...) Hello Joey if you read me, nice reply you told to that
Security in Linux reviewer :)




Ignasi



>
>Within Humbug[1], approximately 2/5 of the membership are now
>Debian users; however, only a few went straight to Debian.
>
>For me, Debian is the high point in most respects on a long road.
>In my work as a Systems Administrator I have used Solaris, Irix,
>Digital Unix, FreeBSD, OpenBSD and GNU/Linux.  Within GNU/Linux,
>I've used MCC Interim Release, Yggdrasil, Slakware, Redhat and
>Debian.
>
>I still use all the non-GNU/Linux systems at work and they *do*
>have advantages, e.g. OpenBSD for security and crypto or Solaris
>for some serious 64 processor hardware; however, I believe that
>"Debian last" has allowed me to appreciate how good Debian
>GNU/Linux really is.
>
>Debian is improving all the time.  Given the nature of the Debian
>distribution, I think that it is inevitable that Debian attract
>more first-time users.
>
>I believe that Debian will get there without needing to force it
>in that direction.  For example, we Debian does auto-detection,
>it will be done *right* and this will be one step towards the
>"first distro" status.
>
>In any system that novices can use, the challenge is to scale
>to expert users.  By aiming at the expert/developer end of the
>spectrum, Debian has avoided this very difficult problem.
>
>Yours sincerely,
>
>-- Mark John Suter  | I know that you  believe  you understand
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] | what you think I said, but I am not sure
>GPG key id F2FEBB36 | you realise that what you  heard  is not
>Ph: +61 4 1126 2316 | what I meant.  anonymous
>
>[1] http://www.humbug.org.au/
>
>Adjunció convertida:"e:\bústies\seaside\adjunta\Is Debian the last OS "
>

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Re: Starting GNOME (newbie question)

2000-07-30 Thread Daniel Reuter
Hello there,

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Hans wrote:

> "$startx gnome-session" works for me. == Hans

If you don't want to type it evertime you start X, you could also put
'gnome-session' at the end of your .xsession file.

Regards,
Daniel



Re: Is Debian the last OS ?

2000-07-30 Thread Adam Scriven

At 00:28 2000/07/31 +1000, you wrote:
How common is the "Debian last" practice, that is, try other distributions 
(including non-GNU/Linux) and then come to Debian to stay?


I started out as a user on a X-friend's Yggrassil (sp?) system.  Then we 
switched to SlackWare, and that was also my first installed network (2 
486s, running ArcNET, and one attached with PLIP).  I switched to RedHat 
next, and used it for years, got my Dad involved with it too.  I've since 
switched to Debian with the Potato release, mostly because RedHat was 
getting to be WAY too expensive, but also because I'd researched Debian, 
and I liked their philosophy, and their "apt" program and method of updating.


I'm still very much getting used to Debian, however, and the long time 
between releases is stopping my Dad from switching, since he wants to 
switch to the most updated release possible if he switches, but even 
Potato's just 2.2.16/17.


Thanks.
Adam
Toronto, Ontario, Canada



RE: Is Debian the last OS ?

2000-07-30 Thread Pollywog
I could not get Debian installed beyond the base system three years ago because
it was confusing, so Debian could not be my first Linux.  I went to Caldera
OpenLinux and used that for a year, then I tried Debian again and got it
installed.  I liked Caldera, but Debian is much better for me.  I think Debian
is too confusing for first-time Linux users, especially the installation.

--
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On 30-Jul-2000 Mark Suter wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> How common is the "Debian last" practice, that is, try other
> distributions (including non-GNU/Linux) and then come to Debian
> to stay?



Is Debian the last OS ?

2000-07-30 Thread Mark Suter
Folks,

How common is the "Debian last" practice, that is, try other
distributions (including non-GNU/Linux) and then come to Debian
to stay?

Within Humbug[1], approximately 2/5 of the membership are now
Debian users; however, only a few went straight to Debian.

For me, Debian is the high point in most respects on a long road.
In my work as a Systems Administrator I have used Solaris, Irix,
Digital Unix, FreeBSD, OpenBSD and GNU/Linux.  Within GNU/Linux,
I've used MCC Interim Release, Yggdrasil, Slakware, Redhat and
Debian.

I still use all the non-GNU/Linux systems at work and they *do*
have advantages, e.g. OpenBSD for security and crypto or Solaris
for some serious 64 processor hardware; however, I believe that
"Debian last" has allowed me to appreciate how good Debian
GNU/Linux really is.

Debian is improving all the time.  Given the nature of the Debian
distribution, I think that it is inevitable that Debian attract
more first-time users.

I believe that Debian will get there without needing to force it
in that direction.  For example, we Debian does auto-detection,
it will be done *right* and this will be one step towards the
"first distro" status.

In any system that novices can use, the challenge is to scale
to expert users.  By aiming at the expert/developer end of the
spectrum, Debian has avoided this very difficult problem.

Yours sincerely,

-- Mark John Suter  | I know that you  believe  you understand
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | what you think I said, but I am not sure
GPG key id F2FEBB36 | you realise that what you  heard  is not
Ph: +61 4 1126 2316 | what I meant.  anonymous

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Re: [Updated] PPP Rx errors...

2000-07-30 Thread John Carline
Sean Richardson wrote:

> Well... I have continued to play with this...switching between suse and
> debian...and have been able to partially fix the problem.
>
> By setting my wvdial baud rate down to 57600 from 115200 i get only
> 1 error in 1000 packets... which is respectable...
>
> However, I would still like to know why 115200 works without a single
> error on the SuSE setup...but with the same settings debian gives me
> errors...
>
> I am using an external USR v.everything modem on a 16550A serial port...
>
> The SuSE box was 6.4 with a 2.2.14 kernel..and the debian box is potato
> with the 2.2.15 kernel... all the versions seem to be the same (wvdial,
> pppd, etc...)
>
> any ideas? anyone?

My first guess is that it's either the difference in the kernel or how the 
kernel was
compiled. One way to tell would be to do a quick compile of the 2.2.14 kernel 
with
the same options you had selected with SuSE and see if that cures the problem.

I know that currently on my box the 2.2.14 gives me better ppp performance then 
the
2.2.16.

After compiling 2.2.16 yesterday my ppp became very erratic - sometimes 
connecting
with either a crummy baud rate or a good baud rate with no transfer of data. 
When I
boot with my 2.2.14 boot floppy, wvdial and pppd work flawlessly.  Since in my
experience most of these problems are caused by the user (me :-)) I'm going to
recompile the 2.2.16 with exactly the same selections as the 2.2.14 and see if 
the
problem goes away.

If I find any definitive answer, I'll post the results. If not.. I'll keep
searching.

John


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Re: sound.o unresolved modules problem

2000-07-30 Thread Pollywog

On 30-Jul-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> try using modprobe instead of insmod
> 
> or load the modules soundlow and soundcore before sound
> 

I could not get Alsa to play sounds, so I will try those modules again.
I got sound.o to compile, eventually, but the soundcore would not compile.
I later got that one compiled too.

One more try and if that doesn't work (sndconfig gave errors) I will wait for
a new version of the commercial drivers.


thanks

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sendmail error 553

2000-07-30 Thread Stefan Ott
hello

i got two strange problems with sendmail on my potato (i386, kernel
2.2.16, procmail 3.13.1-3) box. the problems are not exactly the same,
but they produce the same error message, and so they might have the same
cause.

i'm using sendmail 8.9.3-23, added the virtusertable
("FEATURE(virtusertable)") in sendmail.mc and configured it using webmin
0.80

i asked about this problem in irc channel #debian on irc.debian.org,
checked the bug reports and sendmail.org, but i didn't find anything
usable.


first problem:

trying to send mail to any address on that system using mutt will result
in a "Returned mail: see transcript for details". i get the following
information (my local user name is cockroach, from: address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and to: is [EMAIL PROTECTED]):


   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(reason: 553 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... >cockroach<@desire.ch.)

   - Transcript of session follows -
... while talking to mail.desire.ch.:
>>> MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=513
<<< 553 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... >cockroach<@desire.ch.
501 5.6.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data format er


if i use a different mail program (tested with netscape messenger) it
works.


second problem:

i can't send mail directly to a user (like [EMAIL PROTECTED]), but
only to entries in the virtual usertable. i get exactly the same error
message as mentioned above.

this problem occurs from _EVERY_ client which is not run in a local
shell.


as i'm not on this mailinglist, please send a CC of your replies to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

thanks a lot
stefan

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mount

2000-07-30 Thread Nianwei Xing
hi, debians;
I forget my root password and check the FAQs, somebody
said that after reboot the system and mount filesystem
and then edit the file /etc/passwd, it will work. so i
reboot my computer with my rescue disk and at the boot
prompt, type rescue mount=/dev/hdc1, when the screen
shows the following message;
kernel panic vfs; unable to mount root fs on 01;00.
it stopped. Does anybody know how to handle this
problem?
also, when I reboot with my boot disk, it goes to same
point and stop.
Any information is appreciated!

nianwei

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Re: Compiling mc-4.5.44 [no:command not found]

2000-07-30 Thread Sherab Puntsok
Hi Fracesco,

   Thanks for your reply. No you are not wrong, according to another
source of email message posted on :
http://www.gnome.org:65348/mc/maillist/100-07/
14175.964261019.332231733.html
It also mentions about gettext.

   Then I checked my system, there is no gettext installed. So I installed
gettext-0.10.35 and re-configured mc-4.5.44, make yields no error this time
and finally installed mc.

   Thanks for your help.

   BTW, the old config.log do not mention about msgfmt but an error to xpm.h
which is concerning X windows. I havn't installed that package yet.

   Cheers.

   Alan

Francesco Bochicchio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 02:34:29AM -0700, Sherab Puntsok wrote:
> > Hi debs,
> >I have a problem on compiling mc-4.5.44.tar.gz
> >no: command not found
> > 
> >Details:
> >make[1]: Entering directory `/home/download/mc-4.5.44/po'
> >  file=./`echo nl | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \
> >&& rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH no -o $file nl.po
> >make[1]:***[nl.gmo]Error 127
> > 
> >I've tried dpkg -S no, but couldn't find it.
> > 
> >Any hints appreciated. Thank you.
> >   
> >Alan
> > 
> From a quick look to my version of the Makefile ( mc-4.5.50/po/Makefile ),
> I believe that the rule which failed is :
> 
> .po.gmo:
>   file=$(srcdir)/`echo $* | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \
> && rm -f $$file && $(GMSGFMT) -o $$file $<
> 
> In the same Makefile, the variable GMSGFMT was set as follows :
> 
> GMSGFMT = PATH=../src:$$PATH /usr/bin/msgfmt 
> 
> From the little I know, I understand your system is missing 'msgfmt'.
> 'no' is probably the substitution string taht 'configure' used when
> it didn't find this program ( the configure script should have failed;
> check your config.log if you still have it  )
> 
> Finally, dpkg -S msgfmt says :
> 
> MyDesktop:~$ dpkg -S msgfmt
> gettext: /usr/bin/msgfmt
> 
> So, try intalling gettext package and compiling again.
> 
> Of course, if you have it already, I'm completely wrong :-)
> 
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Re: new user

2000-07-30 Thread JurLan
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote:

> You're message got all garbled up here.  Maybe try resending it with a
> different mailer..
> 
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 02:23:27PM +0200, JurLan wrote:

Hmm .. I am using Pine .. and I have never had this problem before.
Strange.

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Re: new user

2000-07-30 Thread JurLan
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote:

> You're message got all garbled up here.  Maybe try resending it with a
> different mailer..
> 
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 02:23:27PM +0200, JurLan wrote:
> > Hi all.
> > 
> > Let me start by saying that I am new to debian (and this group).
> > I always used SuSE but I got tired of the slow install and the lack of 
> > customisation (if $
> > Wonderful! Really .. easy and quick install .. custom to what I want and 
> > nothing more .. $
> > But since it is a big change from SuSE to Debian I do have some minor 
> > problems and I was $
> > 
> > * Is there a soundconfig tool for Debian like the one that comes with 
> > RedHat and if not .$
> > * I am running X with WindowMaker. No problems except that the basic font 
> > of my apps (e.g$
> > * Booting stuff automaticly was a piece of cake in SuSE .. just put it in 
> > /etc/rc.d/boot.$
> > 
> > I think this is about it for now .. If anybody could help me out here I 
> > would appreciate $
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > --
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> > 
> > http://neon.grmbl.com
> > -
> > 
> > Court Room Quotes
> > 
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> > A.  No, I said he was shot in the lumbar region.
> > 
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Re: new user

2000-07-30 Thread Eric G . Miller
You're message got all garbled up here.  Maybe try resending it with a
different mailer..

On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 02:23:27PM +0200, JurLan wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> Let me start by saying that I am new to debian (and this group).
> I always used SuSE but I got tired of the slow install and the lack of 
> customisation (if $
> Wonderful! Really .. easy and quick install .. custom to what I want and 
> nothing more .. $
> But since it is a big change from SuSE to Debian I do have some minor 
> problems and I was $
> 
> * Is there a soundconfig tool for Debian like the one that comes with RedHat 
> and if not .$
> * I am running X with WindowMaker. No problems except that the basic font of 
> my apps (e.g$
> * Booting stuff automaticly was a piece of cake in SuSE .. just put it in 
> /etc/rc.d/boot.$
> 
> I think this is about it for now .. If anybody could help me out here I would 
> appreciate $
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: current Redhat user evaluates Debian

2000-07-30 Thread Damon Muller
Quoth Peter Palfrader, 
> If we're talking about MS Chap 80, then I can say that in fact it does
> work. I needed it one or two years ago. SuSE 5.3 did not have that
> support built in, but Debian had.

Truth be told, I didn't really try all that hard to get it working.

Rather than find a technical solution I found a social one: I convinced
the administrator of the NT box to allow non-encrypted dial-up
authentication. It works fine now.

Of course, such solutions are not available to everyone.

cheers,

damon

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2000-07-30 Thread JurLan
Hi all.

Let me start by saying that I am new to debian (and this group).
I always used SuSE but I got tired of the slow install and the lack of 
customisation (if $
Wonderful! Really .. easy and quick install .. custom to what I want and 
nothing more .. $
But since it is a big change from SuSE to Debian I do have some minor problems 
and I was $

* Is there a soundconfig tool for Debian like the one that comes with RedHat 
and if not .$
* I am running X with WindowMaker. No problems except that the basic font of my 
apps (e.g$
* Booting stuff automaticly was a piece of cake in SuSE .. just put it in 
/etc/rc.d/boot.$

I think this is about it for now .. If anybody could help me out here I would 
appreciate $

Thanks in advance.

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Re: current Redhat user evaluates Debian

2000-07-30 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Damon Muller wrote:

> I think you mean ms-chap, not ms-chat. Debian does seem to have ms-chap
> already built-in to it's pppd

> Of course, I've never got it working myself, but that doesn't mean it
> isn't there :)

If we're talking about MS Chap 80, then I can say that in fact it does
work. I needed it one or two years ago. SuSE 5.3 did not have that
support built in, but Debian had.

yours,
peter

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Re: Helix Gnome Evolution 0.3

2000-07-30 Thread paul
> ** On Jul 29, Ethan Pierce scribbled:
> > The main reason I am psyched for evolution is my girlfriend cant grasp pine
> > or mail.  She needs something graphical.  If I can avoid booting windows2000
> > so she can read her email in outlook I will be happy as a clam...hence
> > evolution is the perfect solution for the ms llamas :)
> And this is a perfect reasong for Evolution existence :-)), and a
> confirmation of what I wrote before. But, wrt. graphical clients - there are
> more than just Evolution - Netscape Communicator, balsa (also a GNOME app),
> heck - even the (X)Emacs VM can be considered graphical if used with XEmacs
> :)) and probably many more I haven't heard of :)
> 
> marek

don't forget mh (or nmh) and exim

-ptw



Wine Windows Emulator

2000-07-30 Thread Thomas Loredo



I am a newbie to the Linux OS and I am using Corel 
Linux.  I was trying to install the Wine emulator and can't figure out how 
to do this, if anyone can help please do so?
 
Thanks,
Tom Loredo


Re: Compiling mc-4.5.44 [no:command not found]

2000-07-30 Thread Francesco Bochicchio
On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 02:34:29AM -0700, Sherab Puntsok wrote:
> Hi debs,
>I have a problem on compiling mc-4.5.44.tar.gz
>no: command not found
> 
>Details:
>make[1]: Entering directory `/home/download/mc-4.5.44/po'
>  file=./`echo nl | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \
>&& rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH no -o $file nl.po
>make[1]:***[nl.gmo]Error 127
> 
>I've tried dpkg -S no, but couldn't find it.
> 
>Any hints appreciated. Thank you.
>   
>Alan
> 
>From a quick look to my version of the Makefile ( mc-4.5.50/po/Makefile ),
I believe that the rule which failed is :

.po.gmo:
file=$(srcdir)/`echo $* | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \
  && rm -f $$file && $(GMSGFMT) -o $$file $<

In the same Makefile, the variable GMSGFMT was set as follows :

GMSGFMT = PATH=../src:$$PATH /usr/bin/msgfmt 

>From the little I know, I understand your system is missing 'msgfmt'.
'no' is probably the substitution string taht 'configure' used when
it didn't find this program ( the configure script should have failed;
check your config.log if you still have it  )

Finally, dpkg -S msgfmt says :

MyDesktop:~$ dpkg -S msgfmt
gettext: /usr/bin/msgfmt

So, try intalling gettext package and compiling again.

Of course, if you have it already, I'm completely wrong :-)

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[Updated] PPP Rx errors...

2000-07-30 Thread Sean Richardson
Well... I have continued to play with this...switching between suse and
debian...and have been able to partially fix the problem.

By setting my wvdial baud rate down to 57600 from 115200 i get only
1 error in 1000 packets... which is respectable...

However, I would still like to know why 115200 works without a single
error on the SuSE setup...but with the same settings debian gives me
errors...

I am using an external USR v.everything modem on a 16550A serial port...

The SuSE box was 6.4 with a 2.2.14 kernel..and the debian box is potato
with the 2.2.15 kernel... all the versions seem to be the same (wvdial,
pppd, etc...)

any ideas? anyone?

thanks again


On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 12:12:50AM -0500, Sean Richardson wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I recently migrated from SuSE 6.4 to Debian potato...and I am having some 
> problems with my PPP connection.
> 
> Under SuSE my connection worked flawlessly and I was able to use  SuSE 
> firewall to share it among my home network with little effort. However, 
> under Debian I have been unable to get a quality ppp connection. With both 
> setups I am using wvdial...and the se
> 
> ttings are identical(well almost)...
> 
> The problem is that on the debian setup I can barely pull up most complex 
> web pages, they time out and I have to keep hitting reload to get all of 
> the page. When I check /proc/net/dev I am getting close to 20% Rx/frame 
> errors. With large single file downl
> 
> oads the Rx errors drop to <5%...but are still there and still occassionaly 
> cause problems.
> 
> On the SuSE setup (which is the same box, same modem, same cables, just 
> different distrib (i am dual booting between them while i migrate), but I 
> have no Rx errors...and pages/dls pull up fine.
> 
> I have compared the configurations in /etc/ppp, version numbers of ppp and 
> wvdial, and looked through countless other possibilities but have been 
> unable to find a possible cause or difference between the two 
> distributions.



Re: StarOffice

2000-07-30 Thread Ed Cogburn
Umum Wijoyo wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Are there any StarOffice packages available for Debian?
> If not, can I manually install StarOffice on a Debian machine (Will there
> be any problems whatsoever?)
> 
> Thanks!


I don't think there are any debian packages for it now, but that will
probably change at some point now that SO is open source.  No problem
installing SO 5.2 on debian woody.  Its a pig though, it needs 250MB.


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Re: StarOffice

2000-07-30 Thread Stephan Hachinger
I did a manual install and it worked just fine.

Kind Regards,

Stephan Hachinger


- Original Message -
From: "Umum Wijoyo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 9:16 AM
Subject: StarOffice


> Hello,
>
> Are there any StarOffice packages available for Debian?
> If not, can I manually install StarOffice on a Debian machine (Will there
> be any problems whatsoever?)
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
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Re: .deb packages and X

2000-07-30 Thread Mike Werner
Chris Cameron wrote:
> 2 quick questions,
> Where can I find an XFree86 server newer than 3.3.2.3 in a .deb file, and

I'm not sure what version potato has, but woody has 3.3.6  If you are
wanting to stay with slink, you can add the line:
deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent/ slink-update main
to your /etc/sources.list to get 'em.

If, on the other hand, you are willing to go with woody, just change your
/etc/sources.list to point at woody and do a dist-upgrade.  I've been using
woody for a few months now - it's doing just fine.

> how can I tell what packages I already have installed?

dpkg -l
It's likely to be a long list, so you might want to either pipe it through a
pager - I use "dpkg -l | less" - or you could redirect it into a file.
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StarOffice

2000-07-30 Thread Umum Wijoyo
Hello,

Are there any StarOffice packages available for Debian?
If not, can I manually install StarOffice on a Debian machine (Will there
be any problems whatsoever?)

Thanks!




fdisk reports 4.2BSD partitions instead EXT2

2000-07-30 Thread Arcady Genkin
I'm experiencing some problems with fdisk reporting BSD partitions on
a disk with ext2 partitions.  I think that I did have a BSD slice on
there at the very beginning, but I don't remember whether it's still
there.  It could be hdc2, but I couldn't figure out a way to mount the
partitions from it.  Below is the output from fdisk.  I don't know how
to manipulate the partitions this way...

`mount' mounts hdc1, hdc4, hdc5 and hdc6 without a problem.  hdc3 is
linux swap.

How could I get to the partitions from Linux?

Thanks for any hints!

,[ fdisk ]
| Disk /dev/hdc: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 26500 cylinders
| Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes
| 
| 8 partitions:
| #   start   end  size fstype   [fsize bsize   cpg]
|   a:1 7*6*4.2BSD 1024  819216 
|   b:7*   32*   25*  swap
|   c:1  1663* 1662*unused0 0   
|   e:   32*   57*   25*4.2BSD 1024  819216 
|   f:   57*   83*   25*4.2BSD 1024  819216 
|   g:   83* 1663* 1580*4.2BSD 1024  819216
`

,[ dmesg ]
| Partition check:
|  hdc: hdc1 hdc2 < hdc5 hdc6 > hdc3 hdc4
`

,[ mount ]
| /dev/hdc1 on /mnt/hdc1 type ext2 (rw)
| /dev/hdc4 on /mnt/hdc4 type ext2 (rw)
| /dev/hdc6 on /mnt/hdc6 type ext2 (rw)
| /dev/hdc5 on /mnt/hdc5 type ext2 (rw)
`
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Re: Sound card trouble

2000-07-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i have installed the aureal drivers with success in the past it would
help if you include any errors in the email that the system gives you

nate

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Justin Camblin wrote:

cam_ra >Hello,
cam_ra >
cam_ra >I'm having trouble getting my sound card to work at
cam_ra >all.
cam_ra >
cam_ra >I have an Aureal Vortex pci sound card.  I downloaed
cam_ra >the drivers from Aureal's website (v.1.0.5) followed
cam_ra >the instrutions and even rebuilt my kernel with sound
cam_ra >support.  However, my sound card still doesn't work. 
cam_ra >Any suggestions would be appreciated.
cam_ra >
cam_ra >Justin Camblin
cam_ra >IM:cam random
cam_ra >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cam_ra >"Great Minds have always encountered violent opposion
cam_ra >from mediocre minds"  - Albert Einstein.
cam_ra >
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