console mutt emacs problem
I have a problem using emacs inside of mutt. This has just occured recently. If I try to write an email in mutt the editor is emacs. When I try is now it locks up the console. I have to use 'kill' to free it up again. I can, however, open mutt up through a window in X and get emacs to work as I am doing now. Any idea how to fix this? Lance -- Lance Hoffmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- A religion that requires persecution to sustain it is of the devil's propagation HOSEA BALLOU
wmaker menu problem
I am using potato and windowmaker. I have run into a problem recently where my menu has disappeared. When one right-clicks on the mouse I should have a dialog box appear but nothing happens. Anyone have a clue what I can try to fix the menu? This happens as root or as a user. It has disappeared globally. Lance -- Lance Hoffmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Some use statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts for support rather than illumination ANDREW LANG
Re: Apache
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 03:09:54PM -0700, Nate Amsden wrote: > edit /etc/apache/httpd.conf > > change these to your liking: > MinSpareServers 5 > MaxSpareServers 10 > StartServers 5 > > and do /etc/init.d/apache restart > > see www.apache.org for full docs on what these are, apache has excellent > documentation > > nate aha! i finally get to add something to a post from nate! after munging your apache config files* in /etc/apache/, tell apache to reload its settings using the APACHECTL command: apachectl graceful or force a hard shutdown/restart of the apache server via apachectl restart or at least that's the preferred method according to what i've read . the apache config files are, by default, httpd.conf, access.conf and srm.conf ... originally, back in the old days (pre 1.3?) there was a reason to split up the stuff among these three files. but with 1.3.9 at least, apache can have it all in one easy-to-munge, gargantuan file httpd.conf. to get apache to ignore the other config files, put ResourceConfig /dev/null AccessConfig /dev/null in your httpd.conf file, and it'll read your linux bitbucket so you won't have to worry about srm.conf and access.conf any more... see http://www.apache.org/info/three-config-files.html for the full poop. mostly.
flushing IPAC ?
Im tryin to get stats on my dsl connection i have 1 rule for incoming and 1 for outgoing: All Incoming Data Traffic|in|216.39.172.116|all|| All Outgoing Data Traffic|out|216.39.172.116|all|| I had a bunch more rules before that but i took them out as i didnt want them anymore, i ran ipacset, and restarted ipac, even removed ipac totally and reinstalled it (purged it even) and it STILL isn't processing correctly(by a long shot) i have the graphs on http://portal.aphroland.org i have transferred probably 50 times what it says i have in the specified time period. so, is there anything else i can erase to flush this ? reboot maybe ? i rm'd the /var/log/ip-acct too..ive had this problem in the past and it's what drove me away from ipac 2 years or so ago..if there is another such tool that can gather/graph stats id be more then happy to switch!! like the above rules i just want graphs for all incoming and all outgoing. ntop is nice in webmode but have had problems with that in the past with it using all of the CPU after a couple days and the fact it has so many security holes the debianized verison is disabled with webmode. thanks! nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X login keeps repeating
I am messing around with debian 2.2 in a VMware window in my win2k box, so it is all in vga mode and that is cool with me. i do have a weird problem going on though... when i install a window manager (xdm, gdm, etc.): it prompts me for user/pass at boot. I enter it. it prompts me for user/pass I enter it it prompts me for user pass . . . you get the idea, it loops. this happens regardless of root or my account. I have no clue what would cause this to happen. I can usually do a ctrl-alt-backspace and a quick alt-f2 that will get me to another text box and let me reboot or uninstall the package, but it sucks that i can't use a window manager Many thanks in advance! Mark -- Mark Anthony Simos, MCSE Poet, Playwright, Swing Dancer
access to /var/log/messages
William, The command you need is usermod, add the administrator (adm) group to your user: $ usermod -g [ your main group] -G adm, [other groups you may want to add separated by commas] Your can learn more information about groups and suchlike by looking at the howto's in the /usr/doc/ directory. Cheers, Peter Firmstone.
Re: Helix Gnome solved!
The fault is mine (as usual), there is a second part to the install which entails apt-get install task-helix-gnome, which I'm doing now.. Dale L . Morris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I always have trouble with Helix Gnome. This time I downloaded > everything using apt-get update. But when I change my .xsession file > to read gnome-session, I'm back into the old gnome desktop that came > with 2.2. What am I doing wrong now? I'm running potato, but that > shouldn't make a difference, correct? > If I can't run it, how can I uninstall it? > > thanks > > Dale L . Morris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Can I install this in potato or do I have to upgrade to woody? Is this > > a recommended upgrade? > > > > thanks > > > > > > Morten Liebach ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On 1, sep, 2000 at 11:42:22 +, stefan goeman wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I know that there is something around like Helix Gnome. > > > > > > > > Why should I consider using this instead of the normal Gnome packed > > > > with > > > > Debian? > > > > > > The GNOME included in Debian Potato is not being upgraded now, and since > > > the freeze on Potato a lot has happened on that front. > > > > > > Helix GNOME is the bleeding, but stable, edge of GNOME. > > > > > > I've run Helix for Woody on Potato for some months witout any problems > > > whatsoever (except for those of my own making!). It's very stable and I > > > like it a lot, much better than the one in Debian Potato. > > > > > > Just put this line in your /etc/apt/sources.list: > > > > > > deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian\ > > > unstable main > > > > > > And use apt-get, dselect etc. > > > > > > HTH > > > Morten > > > > > > -- "Know thyself.."
Re: Console based Word Processor
I would doubt there's a text-based version of WordPerfect 8 on any platform... If there is, I'd love to know how to make it work. Until then, I'll stick to WP 5.1/DOS for my work. In a decade of use its never crashed or otherwise let me down. :) On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Bob Nielsen wrote: > On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 03:45:51PM -0600, David Karlin wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 05:06:02PM +0100, Ted Harding wrote: > > > If I could get WP5 for UNIX up on Linux I'd run for it! > > > > I did my share of editing in Wordperfect, too. > > > > I suppose you could try running the old DOS version in dosemu. > > > > (Don't know about licensing issues, though.) > > If you have a license for your copy, there should be no problem. I ran > WP5 in dosemu for quite a while with no problems. I have a copy of > Corel which includes WP8 and will take a look to see how to get the > text-based version working. The manual doesn't appear to mention it. > > -- > Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.oz.net/~nielsen > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Re: Console based Word Processor
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 03:45:51PM -0600, David Karlin wrote: > On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 05:06:02PM +0100, Ted Harding wrote: > > If I could get WP5 for UNIX up on Linux I'd run for it! > > I did my share of editing in Wordperfect, too. > > I suppose you could try running the old DOS version in dosemu. > > (Don't know about licensing issues, though.) If you have a license for your copy, there should be no problem. I ran WP5 in dosemu for quite a while with no problems. I have a copy of Corel which includes WP8 and will take a look to see how to get the text-based version working. The manual doesn't appear to mention it. -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
netscape-mozilla problems
In potato, after dialing with wvdial, I can ping the www.debian.org. But Mozilla doesn't work. It says it cant find www.mozilla.whatever. Also, I can't make netscape work. How do I get a more advanced version than the one that comes with potato? apt-get update netscape doesn't get me anything. thanks, stevew
ppp problems
Hi, I'm not sure if I sent something to this effect already, I've tried a few lists and I kind of lost track (does anyone ever use debian-isp? I haven't gotten one message from it yet) so I apologize if you've already heard this. --- Begin Message --- Hi, I've been having manymany problems with ppp :-) My current setup, for some basic info is that I'm running Debian 2.1, I've got kernel 2.2.12, and that's about all I can give right now since I'm not sure what you'd need to know. Anyway, I'm trying to connect to an ISP. I've tried both MSN and AT&T Worldnet, and both have the same problem. They don't match the user name and password and reject me, as if I'm getting them wrong. I've used both wvdial, and the pon command, after setting it up. I have DNS IPs established. Do I need to put my username and id in quotations, or is there something I'm missing? It keeps insisting my username doesn't match my password or, "**Bad Password", on all the different accounts I've tried. Thanks much for help in advance. -Chris --- End Message ---
Re: Helix Gnome
I always have trouble with Helix Gnome. This time I downloaded everything using apt-get update. But when I change my .xsession file to read gnome-session, I'm back into the old gnome desktop that came with 2.2. What am I doing wrong now? I'm running potato, but that shouldn't make a difference, correct? If I can't run it, how can I uninstall it? thanks Dale L . Morris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Can I install this in potato or do I have to upgrade to woody? Is this > a recommended upgrade? > > thanks > > > Morten Liebach ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On 1, sep, 2000 at 11:42:22 +, stefan goeman wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I know that there is something around like Helix Gnome. > > > > > > Why should I consider using this instead of the normal Gnome packed with > > > Debian? > > > > The GNOME included in Debian Potato is not being upgraded now, and since > > the freeze on Potato a lot has happened on that front. > > > > Helix GNOME is the bleeding, but stable, edge of GNOME. > > > > I've run Helix for Woody on Potato for some months witout any problems > > whatsoever (except for those of my own making!). It's very stable and I > > like it a lot, much better than the one in Debian Potato. > > > > Just put this line in your /etc/apt/sources.list: > > > > deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian\ > > unstable main > > > > And use apt-get, dselect etc. > > > > HTH > > Morten > > > > -- > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > -- "Know thyself.."
Localhost port connection problem
Hello, all: On one of my machines, which I call "lear", I am running Apache with the Jserv module. The Jserv module works by accepting requests on port 8007 on localhost. And it works -- sometimes. This machine is connected via a hub to another Linux box (called "router") acting as a masquerading host between the local network and my ADSL connection. It uses ipchains, and has a basic masquerading setup, as follows: /sbin/ipchains -M -S 7200 10 160 /sbin/ipchains -A input -j ACCEPT -i eth1 -s 0/0 67 -d 0/0 68 -p udp /sbin/ipchains -P forward DENY /sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQ I use an ISP that requires the use of PPPoE, so I use the Roaring Penguin PPPoE client, which takes packets from eth1 and forwards them to a ppp0 device that it creates. The machine running Apache is connected to eth0 of the masquerading machine via a hub. This means that my connection to the Internet can be taken down or brought up at will, just like a regular ppp connection, except that the ppp packets are sent over an Ethernet connection to the DSL modem. This is what the routing table of "router" looks like when there is a connection up: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 64.xxx.xxx.xxx * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 ppp0 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 0.0.0.0 64.xxx.xxx.xxx 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 ppp0 The 64.xxx.xxx.xxx IP addresses are dynamically assigned IP address that are received when the connection to the Internet is made. When this connection is up, I can, from the Apache box, successfully connect to localhost port 8007, which means that Jserv works properly. However, if I shut off the connection to the Internet, making the routing table on "router" look like this: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 Now I suddenly cannot connect to localhost port 8007 on "lear". And so Jserv fails. When I reconnect to the Internet, however, I can once again connect to port 8007. The routing table on "lear" looks like this: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 As you can see, the default gateway is to 192.168.0.1, which is the address of eth0 on "router". To make things more interesting, when I delete the static default route on "lear", I can once again connect to localhost port 8007. As far as I can tell, this only affects port 8007 -- I can connect to other well-known ports (80, 25, 23, 21) regardless of whether the Internet link is up or not. Only 8007 is mysteriously refused -- until I restore the link or remove the gateway entry in the routing tables. I would appreciate any insights into the problem. I know I may not have provided enough information, so if there is anything else you need to know, please ask. Gauthaman Ravindran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unattended cable modem server - APM required...
One of my jobs has a cable modem attached to a computer in a public demo area.. This server has two network cards and is currently being trialled running WinProxy. As the machine is in a demo area - and is indeed a demo model, its configuration is frequently stuffed by various people installing heaps of cr** on it :) A permanent replacement machine has been found - I'm pushing to have linux on it.. Others want windows (I think Linux is best, as then its harder for others to muck it up (without the root password ;-) .. I personally prefer Debian for solutions considering the ease of installation, and the fantastic APT command. The problem is - the power to the computer is on a timer which is shut off a quarter of an hour after business closing time. This cannot be worked around - it's a large building with a centrally controlled power system. The machine needs to be instructed to: -Successfully log onto cable network (pretty sure is not a DOCSIS modem - is a Motorola Cybersurfer connecting to Telstra Bigpond - which I believe uses the "RoadRunner" login protocol (it's NOT plain DHCP) -Power on at business opening (this could be manual I guess) -Power off at business closing (as most staff will forget to power it off themselves - and the unit for the most part will have no monitor or keyboard) -Provide restricted access to services to public machines (HTTP only) -Provide unrestricted access to services + SOCKS for staff machines Right now, each computer on the network has a statically assigned internal, non routable IP address - I was thinking giving machines IPs via DHCP based on MAC address, and then assigning priviledges by IP.. Thing is I've had no experience with cable modems under Linux.. Same goes for power management. I'm rusty on IPCHAINS (but I have got the HOWTO) .. Can nut out network drivers I think (will update kernel and pop the right modules in).. Considering giving it its own DNS server (and possibly if I can figure out how to do it, register internal IPs with DNS) Hints on how to: -Get it connected to cable with debian -Get APM powerdown working (Pentium II class machine) -Getting SOCKS working I'm thinking administration via SSH would be good option - though it could be possible to run a serial lead from the machine to one of the demo boxes. Anthony Hogan ... The software is willing, but the flesh is weak ... If thought persists, consult your favourite lifestyle program ... If we're alone in the universe, then it's an awful waste of space
Potato Creams Kernel. Film at 11:00
Sigh. This is a frustrated vent, so feel free to move on... Just did the apt-get upgrade from slink to potato. 1. The install process failed with a "depend" something error (I've had to decamp to another computer, for reasons you'll see below). I can't get any more info than that from dpkg or apt-get. 2. Probably because of 1., stty0 vanished, as in "doesn't exist" according to Debian. (I'm at my old computer, with a lonng serial cable attached to the modem...) 3. Even though I didn't touch the kernel, it now complains that it doesn't have ppp configured in... Oh, yeah. X blew up also. Well, "startx" command tells me it can't connect to a server, although FX86Config works just fine. Sigh. Looks like I have to do a complete re-install. Of slink, mind you. It looks like I'm gonna give potato a pass... Kind regards -- - Nick - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times he will pick himself up and carry on... -- Winston Churchill
Re: access to /var/log/messages
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 02:05:47PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: > Greetings Debians, > > I'd like to give access to the directory /var/log/messages to my user > account so I can watch what messages are being displayed there. I'd > do this with tail -f /var/log/messages. Problem is my user accnt has > no permissions on that directory. I could change the permissions on > the directory itself but then any other user can look into that data > and I'd rather not have that. Therefore is it wise policy to add my > user account to the 'root' group? Would that solve the problem while > maintaining system security? Or is there a better way of achieving > this? And how would I go about adding myself to the root > group...modify /etc/group? Methinks, $ adduser adm will do the trick. Not too sure if it doesn't give too much away. Alot of things seem to have read priveledges for the adm group (/dev/xconsole, /var/log/messages, ...). I guess this is the purpose of this group. Wouldn't add just anyone to it. -- /bin/sh ~/.signature: Command not found
Re: FAQ-O-Matic (was: Re: join us!)
John Hasler wrote: > Paul D. Smith writes: > > For the second, it's fine for me for small editing jobs; > > I find it frustrating for anything. > > > I do the work in my editor and paste the results into the window. > > I hadn't tried that. I'd rather just download the file, edit it, and then > upload it. Use a sane web browser (like w3m) that lets you edit fields in the editor of your choice. -- see shy jo
CAP calendar client?
Does there exist a calendar client that can talk to a remote calendar server with CAP (Calendar Access Protocol)? I'd like to work with the Sun Calendar server at work from home. There seems to be an aborted attemt by the Mozilla group and good intentions by Helixcode to add this functionality to Evolution, but does anybody know of anything working? Thanks in advance, Greg --- "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea." --RFC-1925
Re: Can Mondo be used over lan
Hugo Rabson wrote: > Mondo can't do anything over a LAN - not yet, anyway - but he _could_ back up > a Linux (or Windows) PC with Mondo, burn several CDs of the resultant ISO > file, then restore several PCs at once. > > So long as they all can boot from CDs, there should be no problem. :) > > BTW, a new release should be made in a week or so. > > Hugo > > --- Peter Firmstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >Hugo, > > > > > [...] > >> Has anyone used Mondo? Is it strictly a harddrive-to-harddrive solution, > >> or can it be used over the LAN? I need something that allows me to > >> duplicate a lab-full of PCs, like Ghost's multicast. > >> > >> Thanks! > > _ > Want a new web-based email account ? ---> http://www.firstlinux.net
Re: howto recreate /dev/null ?
aside from the need to spell check my outgoing messages, I have one more thing to add :) If you have the kernel sources you can find the magic recipe for /dev/* in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt you still need support compiled into the kernel or a module to use the device of course. -Jon
Re: ReadmeName and HeaderName in Apache
the users of the list have NO power to unsubscribe you you must do it yourself nate felix opare wrote: > > please unsubscribe me. I do not want to be part of this anymore > > -Original Message- > From: Mike Brownlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 1:35 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: ReadmeName and HeaderName in Apache > > Amir Ish-Hurwitz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Both ReadmeName and HeaderName somehow don't work in my Apache. Nothing > > is appended to any directory listing while README and HEADER exist in the > > relevant directory and are readable to all users. I have Apache 1.3.9, > > Apache-SSL 1.3.9 (both Debian packages) and Apache 1.3.12 (compiled > > myself). My Debian version is 2.2 and my kernel is 2.2.16. It's not really > > important, but it sure is irritating. As far as I'm concerned my Apache > > configuration is okay: it says > > > > ReadmeName README > > HeaderName HEADER > > > Hi Amir, > Try forcing the type of the README and HEADER files for the > directory sections you want. E.g.: > > > Options Indexes > AllowOvrride None > > > ForceType text/plain > > > order allow,deny > allow from all > > > -- > ( Mike Brownlow | http://wsmake.org/~mike/ | http://wsmake.org/ ) > ( "A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge ) > ( is easy unto him that understandeth." Proverbs 14:6 ) > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > /dev/null > > NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ > Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 > ___ > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
multi line isdn
I've connect with ISDN to the internet. I've 128K capable line(s) but I've only 64K connection. I've the following devices/files in /etc/isdn total 45 -rw-r--r--1 root root12080 ÁPR 9 02:09 device.ippp0 -rw-r--r--1 root root 8134 ÁPR 18 14:46 init.d.functions -rw-r--r--1 root root 7480 MÁR 22 18:17 init.d.functions.dpkg-old -rw-r--r--1 root root 4260 MÁR 11 13:02 ipppd.ippp0 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 906 MÁR 2 10:16 xisdnload-netdown -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 701 MÁR 2 10:16 xisdnload-netup -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 662 MÁR 2 10:16 xmonisdn-netdown -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 637 MÁR 2 10:16 xmonisdn-netup In the ipppd.ippp0 I've a line with '+mp'( I uncommented it ). Thanks for any help Attila -- -- - Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Debian 2.2 Linux / 2.2.13 / exim- - Get my PGP key: gpg --keyserver keys.pgp.com --recv-key 0x2cc33acb -
Re: howto recreate /dev/null ?
man mknod then ls -l /dev/null on a working linux box I'm not the kind of guy who just sreams RTFM all the time so here's the long(er) version... [EMAIL PROTECTED] jon]$ ls -l /dev/null crw-rw-rw-1 root root 1, 3 May 11 21:08 /dev/null ^ ^^ this means /dev/null is a character special device (the leading 'c') with major mode 1 and minor mode 3, what *that* means is really rather beyond me, except that it reads/writes 1 character at a time not blocks of data like diskdrives: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jon]$ ls -l /dev/sda brw-rw1 root disk 8, 0 Mar 3 1999 /dev/sda ^ Anyway what you want to do (after reading the man page) is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mknod /dev/null c 1 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] chmod 666 /dev/null That last command isn't a joke, that's really the permissions you want, read and write for everybody (ain't that the devil). If you're feelling waggish you could name it /dev/bottomless-pit-o-bits if you want, or keek it in your home directory :) HTH, -Jon
Re: Strange KDE2 Language Problem after recent update, help pls.
I run kde2 from the deb packages provided at kde.tdyc.com, I use apt to update them, kde2 works well (bit slow though). Did you try to dpkg --purge any international kde packages (the ones that are about other charsets/languages)? I think something might be broken there (?) -- Danny Pansters [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ricin.com
RE: ReadmeName and HeaderName in Apache
please unsubscribe me. I do not want to be part of this anymore -Original Message- From: Mike Brownlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 1:35 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: ReadmeName and HeaderName in Apache Amir Ish-Hurwitz wrote: > Hi, > > Both ReadmeName and HeaderName somehow don't work in my Apache. Nothing > is appended to any directory listing while README and HEADER exist in the > relevant directory and are readable to all users. I have Apache 1.3.9, > Apache-SSL 1.3.9 (both Debian packages) and Apache 1.3.12 (compiled > myself). My Debian version is 2.2 and my kernel is 2.2.16. It's not really > important, but it sure is irritating. As far as I'm concerned my Apache > configuration is okay: it says > > ReadmeName README > HeaderName HEADER Hi Amir, Try forcing the type of the README and HEADER files for the directory sections you want. E.g.: Options Indexes AllowOvrride None ForceType text/plain order allow,deny allow from all -- ( Mike Brownlow | http://wsmake.org/~mike/ | http://wsmake.org/ ) ( "A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge ) ( is easy unto him that understandeth." Proverbs 14:6 ) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___
Strange KDE2 Language Problem after recent update, help pls.
Greetings, I have been running KDE2 and Woody for some time now with no problems, however after a recent update, several things happened. First of all, my console keymap got changed to a non us one, so I could not login. Once I figured out what was happening, I determined how my keyboard was mapped, so I could login as root and use kbdconfig to fix the problem. Then I ran X-windows. KDE2 comes up fine, but all the dialogs, etc are in gibberish, I guess it could be a language like chinese, etc, but whatever it is, I can't read it. On desktop one, the icons names are also missing completely, but on desktops 2-4 the icon names are there, in english, but the rest of the dialogs are in gibberish. Since I can't run the KDE2 config program inside KDE (it runs, can't read it tho) How can I fix this problem from console mode?? Any suggestions would be most helpful. Regards, Todd
Re: linux telephony?
This might have been said earlier in this thread (in which case I apologise), but I think there is a HOWTO on Linux Telephony.. $ cd /usr/doc/HOWTO/en-txt $ zless LINUX_TELEPHONY_OR_THE_LIKE.gz I don't think it's trivial though. Dan -- Danny Pansters [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ricin.com
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Re: What are the Essential Packages?
On Sat, 02 Sep 2000, I. Tura wrote: > The fastest way I use is: > > > Download the file /dists/stable/main/binary-i386*/Packages.gz > > *Or your architecture > > Uncompress it and search there the packages you'll need. keywords: > sawmill > or wmaker for the window managers, for example. You'll need the packages > that the window manager depends on. You also need the file (bon't remember > location) base2.2.tgz for the base. > > You'll need the floppies in /dists/stable/main/disks-i386/ > > > Note: the name of the base file and the locations can be inaccurate, but > near from they. > > > Don't know if I'm missing something... > Hmm, well the first thing I'd want to do is compile a custom kernel. I wouldn't go for the X stuff at first but rather install the (minimal) base system, then joe (favorite editor) and mc to finish setup and then (although through apt preferably) I install binutils, ncurses, gcc and stuff needed to compile a kernel from menuconfig to get all hardware working and set finish up. If it boots well again and stufgf works, I install whatever i need through apt including X (I happen to prefer kde so I'd apt kde2) Of course this is just my preference, maybe here's an interesting discussion.. how to initially set up a debian system. In my case I use a cable modem which basically means I can get away with two disks and a lot of apting... anyhow I think it makes sense to initially narrow down your packages installs as much as possible. Greetings to everyone, Dan -- Danny Pansters [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ricin.com
RE: Please remove me from the subscription list......
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Re: Please remove me from the subscription list......
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Re: Please remove me from the subscription list......
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RE: Linux crashed a lot - more info
> From: John Reinke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Larry Elmore wrote: > > > Did you try replacing the power supply? This sounds suspiciously like an > > almost-good power supply. That is one item that one should > _never_ skimp on, > > but a lot of low-end clones do to save a few bucks. Of course, > there's other > > possible causes. My wife's machine got to be like that, and after some > > poking about, I discovered that the CPU fan was going bad -- it > was turning, > > but not quite fast enough _some_ of the time. Sometimes it'd run at full > > speed for a couple of days before slowing down, sometimes a few > minutes, and > > sometimes would start off slow in which case the machine > sometimes wouldn't > > even finish booting before the CPU overheated. Intermittent > problems like > > that can be really difficult to track down sometimes. > > No, the only spare box I have has an old AT power supply. > > Yet another problem I've had that you reminded me of - the CPU fan will > occasionally speed up and slow down. I've seen it stop almost completely, > too. Sometimes, it makes a nasty rattling sound, but it seems to be > attached well enough to the CPU that it shouldn't fall off. I've seen that > the BIOS knows what speed the CPU fan is turning - is that how the fan can > affect the computer? I've never seen the CPU get too hot. I don't know if the fan should be variable speed or not. It seems awfully silly to me to add the complexity of a thermostat and additional code in the BIOS so you can save probably 0.1 cents worth of electricity per month by slowing that tiny CPU fan down when the chip is cool, but I seem to remember reading something about such nonsense a few months ago. If that fan is making a rattling or buzzing noise sometimes, I'd bet that the fan's on its last legs. When I took the fan off the CPU in my wife's machine, when it slowed down, you could really feel the difference when you were holding it in your hand -- lots of vibration. It made a low pitched buzzing noise when it went slow while attached to the CPU because the motherboard and case acted like a soundboard of a string instrument and amplified the vibration's sound. I'd suggest trying to find out whether the CPU fan speed is supposed to be controlled by the BIOS, and if it's not, there's your culprit. If the BIOS does control the speed, I'd still suspect the fan because of the noise you describe. Luckily, they're relatively cheap. If a different fan does the same thing, and the BIOS doesn't control fan speed, that'd indicate a bad power supply or maybe a bad connection to the power supply. Check the voltage going to the fan with a meter, if you've got one. Other than that, I don't know what else to suggest. I hope this helps! If the CPU is overheating just a little bit (i.e., the fan is running but sometimes slowly), the symptoms can be fairly random. Sometimes my wife's machine would just lock up and freeze, other times it would reset and reboot without warning, a few times Windows just started acting weird and I don't know whether that was the computer or Windows at fault there. :) I suppose if it ever overheated too much, it might permanently damage the chip and it wouldn't necessarily be totally non-functional afterwards. I just remembered having that happen once (I think) on an old 486 when the fan just completely quit. After trying to reboot a few times and having it lock up after a couple of minutes each time, I opened up the case and discovered the problem. I replaced the fan, but the machine was too unreliable to use after that. It sometimes would run for hours just fine, other times only a minute or two. Certain programs were guaranteed to lock it up -- I suspect there were just a few opcodes (maybe only one) that were failing, but eventually it brought down the machine. I never tried replacing the CPU because 486's weren't really being sold anymore and I could get a whole new 486 box (for a firewall) for $20 a whole lot easier. > I'm really starting to doubt my hardware now. ...all I want is a happy > Linux box that never crashes... Perhaps I should perch a stuffed penguin > on top of it. Couldn't hurt! ;-) Larry
Re: ReadmeName and HeaderName in Apache
Amir Ish-Hurwitz wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Thanks, it works fine! Also as a general config, not just for a specific > directory! But how come? Shouldn't it have worked without forcing the > type? I'll look into it... > > Amir Yeah, it used to work ok. I think some function is not setting the content_type attribute of request_rec's correctly when unknown types are found but DefaultType is specified. I think it is setting content_type to NULL whereever that is. The code says in a similar problem area: modules/standard/mod_expires.c:430 * I still don't know *why* r->content_type would ever be NULL, this * is possibly a result of fixups being called in many different * places. Fixups is probably the wrong place to be doing all this * work... Bah. -- ( Mike Brownlow | http://wsmake.org/~mike/ | http://wsmake.org/ ) ( "A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge ) ( is easy unto him that understandeth." Proverbs 14:6 )
Re: FTP and Firewall
On Fri, 01 Sep 2000, Christoph Simon wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I've three machines behind a firewall provided by IP Masquerading (all > > machines running Potato). One of this machines is a web server updated > > by Windows Users by FTP. > > > > The problem is that conections provided inside a IP Masquerading > > environment can't transfer files. But in your homes (using a real IP > > connection) he can. > > > > Any hints? > > Did you consider running a proxy? BTW ftp through IP_masq should work. > > Christoph Simon > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I happen to have the same problem. I have a cable connection and from my gateway box running potato I can't seem to get a decent FTP transfer from my workstation box running woody and either ftpd or wu-ftpd. I run ip forwarding and masquerading on the gateway box. The local net is masqueraded as the "outer" IP# of the box connected to the cable ISP. All works well, I have the box load the masq modules for ftp and the like (even icq) on start-up; all but ftp'ing to my workstation from my gateway box. Same problem. Que? Anyone? Dan -- Danny Pansters [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ricin.com
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Re: FTP and Firewall
> > The problem is that conections provided inside a IP Masquerading > environment can't transfer files. But in your homes (using a real IP > connection) he can. > > Any hints? > Have you tried using passive mode to transfer the files ? Mike
Re: linuxconf problems
Did you log in as a regular user and su to root and then try to run linuxconf. If so you need to allow root to access the X server, either log in as root or as a regular user type xhosts + which will allow any user to run an X app on the original users X session. Mike
Re: Directory always defaults to /usr/bin
> Have a look in your ~/.gnome directory and see if you can find any > configuration files for the panel which have /usr/bin/ in them, this > might be your problem. You could probably start by doing an rgrep for > /usr/bin/ in ~/.gnome and see what you come up with (I have no idea what > file I changed, so I can't tell you exactly where to look). > > This solved my problem, may solve yours too. That was the problem! For some reason, in the ~/.gnome/session file, the field CurrentDirectory was set to /usr/bin for every entry. I changed them all back to my home directory and it appears to be working! Thanks! Kent
Problems with dell serial terminal
Hi. I have an old dell mt-15 serial terminal that i am trying to use with my debian box. There was no terminfo for mt-15 but the terminal could be set to emulate a tvi925. I added a getty line to inittab, sorted out all the baud and text bits. Everything is fine but it is printing an extra blank line between every two. This is likely to do with LF & CR but after much fiddling with stty and reading the howtos several times I'm stumped. Thanks. -- === "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds. " = Linus Torvalds Colin McDowall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache
edit /etc/apache/httpd.conf change these to your liking: MinSpareServers 5 MaxSpareServers 10 StartServers 5 and do /etc/init.d/apache restart see www.apache.org for full docs on what these are, apache has excellent documentation nate Daniel E Baumann wrote: > > Hello list. I was wondering if anyone knows off hand how I could make apache > not spawn so many slave processes. When it first starts up it spawns sbout 6 > processes. The reason being is that I am running it on my own machine and it > only > has 64MB RAM. I noticed that when I accees a PHP script it spawns more > processes > and I get about 13 of them running. Besides I'm only using it for development > purposes and I don't need all those processes sucking up my memory. I am also > running GNOME so things can get sluggish after apache starts spawning all its > slaves. > > Oh yeah, please CC this back to me as I just unsubscribed from the list. > > Thanks, > > Dan > -- > Daniel E. Baumann > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (caution: dynamic DNS) > > Web location: http://www.msoe.edu/~baumannd > http://www.linuxfreak.com/~baumannd > > "Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code." > > -- Dave Olson > --- > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apache
Hello list. I was wondering if anyone knows off hand how I could make apache not spawn so many slave processes. When it first starts up it spawns sbout 6 processes. The reason being is that I am running it on my own machine and it only has 64MB RAM. I noticed that when I accees a PHP script it spawns more processes and I get about 13 of them running. Besides I'm only using it for development purposes and I don't need all those processes sucking up my memory. I am also running GNOME so things can get sluggish after apache starts spawning all its slaves. Oh yeah, please CC this back to me as I just unsubscribed from the list. Thanks, Dan -- Daniel E. Baumann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (caution: dynamic DNS) Web location: http://www.msoe.edu/~baumannd http://www.linuxfreak.com/~baumannd "Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code." -- Dave Olson ---
Re: FTP and Firewall
> Hi all, > > I've three machines behind a firewall provided by IP Masquerading (all > machines running Potato). One of this machines is a web server updated > by Windows Users by FTP. > > The problem is that conections provided inside a IP Masquerading > environment can't transfer files. But in your homes (using a real IP > connection) he can. > > Any hints? Did you consider running a proxy? BTW ftp through IP_masq should work. Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ^X^C q quit :q ^C end x exit ZZ ^D ? help shit .
RE: ReadmeName and HeaderName in Apache
Hi Mike, Thanks, it works fine! Also as a general config, not just for a specific directory! But how come? Shouldn't it have worked without forcing the type? I'll look into it... Amir Mike Brownlow wrote: > Amir Ish-Hurwitz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Both ReadmeName and HeaderName somehow don't work in my Apache. Nothing > > is appended to any directory listing while README and HEADER exist in the > > relevant directory and are readable to all users. I have Apache 1.3.9, > > Apache-SSL 1.3.9 (both Debian packages) and Apache 1.3.12 (compiled > > myself). My Debian version is 2.2 and my kernel is 2.2.16. It's not really > > important, but it sure is irritating. As far as I'm concerned my Apache > > configuration is okay: it says > > > > ReadmeName README > > HeaderName HEADER > > > Hi Amir, > Try forcing the type of the README and HEADER files for the > directory sections you want. E.g.: > > > Options Indexes > AllowOvrride None > > > ForceType text/plain > > > order allow,deny > allow from all >
Re: linux telephony?
There was something at the pages of Linux under Winmodems... One of the most famous... One of the persons that wrote that was a Quake programmer, like John Carmack or similar name... Didn't payed much attention because although I have _two_ winmodems (yes, feel free to insult) I don't have much interest (hate telephones, and specially hate answering machines). Sorry for such inconsistent information. I think you can reorganize it with a search engine. Ignasi At 10.14 1/9/00 -0700, Krzys Majewski ha escrit: >I've got a modem, a soundcard, some speakers, and potentially a >microphone. Does this mean I can use my linux box as a telephone? >This would be particularly useful for things like "the secretary says >he's on another line can you hold for a long long time while we >entertain you with the latest kenny g offering", since my current >telephone does not have a hands-free/speakerphone option. >-chris > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > ---\ From Barcelona... \ \\___ / / ___\_'_\ Still nationalizing the LAN! /\¬___/ --/ ___ Do You Yahoo!? Achetez, vendez! À votre prix! Sur http://encheres.yahoo.fr
Re: Console based Word Processor
Don't know about WP8 running under GNU/L, but if it converts and saves WP5.1 documents with the same grace and style as WP8 for Windoze, no great deal. (Personal note: I was a fan of DOS WP5.1 and continued the useless trend of upgrading until I got tired as I wanted some decent compatibility with WP5.1, and now I write everything with HTML and thinking to 'upgrade' to Latex). Best to all, Ignasi >On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:38:19AM -0400, Joseph C. Tuttle wrote: >> >> I've heard this before, but I haven't been able to find WP 5.x on either of the >> two WP 8 CDs I have. I'd be happy to find it, though, because I believe the >> DOS version of WP 5.1 was one of the best software products ever created. >> So, if any of y'all know where it can be found exactly, please let me know. >> >It is only included in the retail server edition. Check for yourself >at "http://linux.corel.com/products/wp8/features.htm";. > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > ---\ From Barcelona... \ \\___ / / ___\_'_\ Still nationalizing the LAN! /\¬___/ --/ ___ Do You Yahoo!? Achetez, vendez! À votre prix! Sur http://encheres.yahoo.fr
Re: What are the Essential Packages?
The fastest way I use is: Download the file /dists/stable/main/binary-i386*/Packages.gz *Or your architecture Uncompress it and search there the packages you'll need. keywords: sawmill or wmaker for the window managers, for example. You'll need the packages that the window manager depends on. You also need the file (bon't remember location) base2.2.tgz for the base. You'll need the floppies in /dists/stable/main/disks-i386/ Note: the name of the base file and the locations can be inaccurate, but near from they. Don't know if I'm missing something... hth, Ignasi At 07.27 31/8/00 -0700, Tech Support Guy ha escrit: >Hi, >I'd like to install Debian 2.2, but I'm having trouble >figuring out which packages to download. I noticed >that I won't be using many of the packages that come >with the distribution, and don't want to waste time >downloading them or, worse, downloading and burning a >CD image. I'd prefer to install directly from the DOS >partition on my harddrive. >What are the essential packages for the base GNU/Linux >system and X11? > Thanks in advance, > Jamie > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! >http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > ---\ From Barcelona... \ \\___ / / ___\_'_\ Still nationalizing the LAN! /\¬___/ --/ ___ Do You Yahoo!? Achetez, vendez! À votre prix! Sur http://encheres.yahoo.fr
Re: Console based Word Processor
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 05:06:02PM +0100, Ted Harding wrote: > If I could get WP5 for UNIX up on Linux I'd run for it! I did my share of editing in Wordperfect, too. I suppose you could try running the old DOS version in dosemu. (Don't know about licensing issues, though.) -- David Karlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU/Linux
RE: Linux crashed a lot - more info
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Larry Elmore wrote: > Did you try replacing the power supply? This sounds suspiciously like an > almost-good power supply. That is one item that one should _never_ skimp on, > but a lot of low-end clones do to save a few bucks. Of course, there's other > possible causes. My wife's machine got to be like that, and after some > poking about, I discovered that the CPU fan was going bad -- it was turning, > but not quite fast enough _some_ of the time. Sometimes it'd run at full > speed for a couple of days before slowing down, sometimes a few minutes, and > sometimes would start off slow in which case the machine sometimes wouldn't > even finish booting before the CPU overheated. Intermittent problems like > that can be really difficult to track down sometimes. > > Larry No, the only spare box I have has an old AT power supply. Yet another problem I've had that you reminded me of - the CPU fan will occasionally speed up and slow down. I've seen it stop almost completely, too. Sometimes, it makes a nasty rattling sound, but it seems to be attached well enough to the CPU that it shouldn't fall off. I've seen that the BIOS knows what speed the CPU fan is turning - is that how the fan can affect the computer? I've never seen the CPU get too hot. I'm really starting to doubt my hardware now. ...all I want is a happy Linux box that never crashes... Perhaps I should perch a stuffed penguin on top of it. john
Re: sound blaster live
No, sblive uses the emu10k1 chip set which for the longest time was not supported. But thanks to David Bellows's suggestion, I finally got it working by downloading the unstable release of the alsa debian packages. I'm not sure about SB Live, but shouldn't it also work as es1371 just like SB128? or does it have a different chipset? -- Danny Pansters [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ricin.com _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
FTP and Firewall
Hi all, I've three machines behind a firewall provided by IP Masquerading (all machines running Potato). One of this machines is a web server updated by Windows Users by FTP. The problem is that conections provided inside a IP Masquerading environment can't transfer files. But in your homes (using a real IP connection) he can. Any hints? Thanks, PH
Re: keyboardless operation
It stops after "Console: colour VGA+ 80x25"... basically the first boot message.. On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Nate Amsden wrote: > where does the system stop booting ? i have many machines without a > keyboard running they run fine. i read that linux 2.4 is including new > code to enable systems withouyt keyboards to boot..probably a kernel > workaround for what the bios should handle on it's own(and does handle > on the vast majority of boards made in the past 5 years) > > nate > > Lazar Fleysher wrote: > > > > HI > > > > I would like to operate a machine without a keyboard (in server mode) > > The keyboard is disabled in bios, but the system does not boot without it. > > Should I compile the kernel in a special way?
Re: /etc/passwd & user IRC
> > hmm will it be fixed or isn't it treated as a bug ? dpkg -s only knows about a file if it is actually in a package. /etc/passwd is not contained in one package. The installation creates it, then base-passwd updates it. This is not a bug.
RE: Linux crashed a lot - more info
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This is scary. I had a problem similar to this on my old work > computer. Netscape > would crash all the time, xterms wouldn't start, library errors, compiling > errors, ftp checksums incorrect, etc. The system never crashed > but was very > unreliable. Turns out the memory was bad, after running some test > programs I got > from http://freshmeat.net. > > So, I replaced the memory, and it worked alright for 2 months, > then, it started > having problems again. New NIC, same problems. I tried replacing > many different > pieces but to no luck. Finally, I just switched machines and no problems. > Unfortunately this sounds like you have a similar scenrio. Did you try replacing the power supply? This sounds suspiciously like an almost-good power supply. That is one item that one should _never_ skimp on, but a lot of low-end clones do to save a few bucks. Of course, there's other possible causes. My wife's machine got to be like that, and after some poking about, I discovered that the CPU fan was going bad -- it was turning, but not quite fast enough _some_ of the time. Sometimes it'd run at full speed for a couple of days before slowing down, sometimes a few minutes, and sometimes would start off slow in which case the machine sometimes wouldn't even finish booting before the CPU overheated. Intermittent problems like that can be really difficult to track down sometimes. Larry
Re: fetchmail errors when my Netscape mails to @3rvs.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Exim is rejecting the mail because of the trailing . in the domain name > of the sender. This is perhaps a bit picky, but seems reasonable (I > haven't actually checked the specs to see if the trailing . is allowed). it is allowed, i read about something like this(unrelated issue) recently although i can't remember where :( i think it was something about sendmail's compadiblity with other systems..not sure tho -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/passwd & user IRC
-> On 01-Sep-2000 Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar wrote: -> > Hello, -> > -> > I was searching for UID of irc user (some time ago I've seen such user -> > exists); now I can't find it. adding of irc package runs adduser -> > --system which is nice but I don't prefer that method (some UIDs were -> > already allocated for some users sometie ago, why not to use them?). -> > -> > dpkg -S /etc/passwd tells /etc/passwd belongs to no package (very nice...) -> > -> > Now, please don't advise just get one free number; if you can respond -> > - why doesn't /etc/passwd belong to any package ? -> -> it is generated, not provided. the package in question is a mix of -> base-files and base-passwd. hmm will it be fixed or isn't it treated as a bug ? -> > - why was user 'irc' removed ? -> > - is it safe to create user with uid 39 that was used for irc some time ago? -> -> in general it is a bad idea to add system level users, Debian may need -> uid 39 to be something else. iirc, in older debian versions there was user irc with UID 39, do you whink that UID can be re-used later ? -- Matus "fantomas" Uhlar, sysadmin at NEXTRA, Slovakia; IRCNET admin of *.sk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ ; http://www.nextra.sk/ My mind is like a steel trap - rusty and illegal in 37 states.
Re: keyboardless operation
where does the system stop booting ? i have many machines without a keyboard running they run fine. i read that linux 2.4 is including new code to enable systems withouyt keyboards to boot..probably a kernel workaround for what the bios should handle on it's own(and does handle on the vast majority of boards made in the past 5 years) nate Lazar Fleysher wrote: > > HI > > I would like to operate a machine without a keyboard (in server mode) > The keyboard is disabled in bios, but the system does not boot without it. > Should I compile the kernel in a special way? > > Thank you > > Lazar > > > >Take these broken wings and learn to fly... >///|\\\ > 0 0 > ( . )http://pages.nyu.edu/~rqf6512 > - > | | > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto recreate /dev/null ?
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 03:09:05PM -0500, Will Trillich wrote: > On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 09:09:21PM +0200, Sven Burgener wrote: > > Not to be mean or anything, but FYI fetchmail can be made > > silent with "-s": > > -s, --silent work silently > > > > But then again, you probably already knew that. :) > you're half right. i suspected, but hadn't explored the > docs to find out. is there a performance penalty comparing > these two > some_verbose_command > /dev/null > versus > some_verbose_command --silent_running I *guess* --silent-running would be better in that respect as it doesn't print anything that needs to be redirected anywhere -> less "traffic". But hey, correct me if I'm wrong, anyone. > good eye. i thought about that one just after i hit the > SEND button. (i guess i need a shorter send button.) :) Sven -- "We will run this with the same kind of openness we have run Windows," Steve Ballmer on their .net service
keyboardless operation
HI I would like to operate a machine without a keyboard (in server mode) The keyboard is disabled in bios, but the system does not boot without it. Should I compile the kernel in a special way? Thank you Lazar Take these broken wings and learn to fly... ///|\\\ 0 0 ( . )http://pages.nyu.edu/~rqf6512 - | |
Re: ReadmeName and HeaderName in Apache
Amir Ish-Hurwitz wrote: > Hi, > > Both ReadmeName and HeaderName somehow don't work in my Apache. Nothing > is appended to any directory listing while README and HEADER exist in the > relevant directory and are readable to all users. I have Apache 1.3.9, > Apache-SSL 1.3.9 (both Debian packages) and Apache 1.3.12 (compiled > myself). My Debian version is 2.2 and my kernel is 2.2.16. It's not really > important, but it sure is irritating. As far as I'm concerned my Apache > configuration is okay: it says > > ReadmeName README > HeaderName HEADER Hi Amir, Try forcing the type of the README and HEADER files for the directory sections you want. E.g.: Options Indexes AllowOvrride None ForceType text/plain order allow,deny allow from all -- ( Mike Brownlow | http://wsmake.org/~mike/ | http://wsmake.org/ ) ( "A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge ) ( is easy unto him that understandeth." Proverbs 14:6 )
Re: howto recreate /dev/null ?
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:46:54AM -0600, cls-colo spgs wrote: > wow, what a great explanation! (after reading the initial posting, i > wondered what > does /dev/null do? (which was the question i was going to post.) then i read > man > "null," and thought, "okay, that's what 'null' does." then i came to mr. > trillich's > post and really learned a few things. ) > > sir, if if you're a "second-iteration newbie," i can't imagine what > "guru-dome" must > be. > > ...well done. gosh! i'm getting kudos only because i lit a match in a dark room. my explanation was a bit scatter-shot, at best. someone with a flashlight or a 4-horsepower generator could really help out in these situations. i wish[+] the documentation were a bit[*] more consistent in providing not merely the mechanics of HOW to run thus-and-such or use file-for-example, but also WHY you'd want to and what it'll do for you, with examples showing a significant range of applications! in contrast, microso~1 documentation is an example to learn from (i.e. don't try this at home): Date x = Date() x now contains the system date. while this 'example' shows all there is about the date function, there's no illustration showing how to calculate next week's date from it, or how to determine the first tuwsday of this month, or whether it contains time-of-day information as well, and if so, how to 1) find it, 2) use it, 3) change it. let's leave the microso~1 documentation paradigm where it belongs, and move forward into human-readable manuals. some good examples i can think of include "programming perl" and the original "macpaint" manual that came with the 128 macs in 1984. -- +"wish" -- from what i've seen on debian-doc and debian-www, there really ARE efforts underway to improve the dox. but there's a really HUGE mountain of stuff out there that needs updating, and it's all over the place. if you have some free time, check out http://www.debian.org/doc/todo and see if you can pitch in... *"a bit", as in the first mate's message to captain edward john smith of the titanic: "there's a bit of water in the forward compartments..." > thx. > > bentley taylor. > (potato on 2.2.16)
Re: Followup: access to /var/log/messages
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 02:49:05PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: > I used adduser adm and it worked like a charm. My question is why > does it work? The folder /var/log is owned by root and has root group. Why > does adm have rights to that...how does that all fit together? If you do $ls -l /var/ You'll see (among other things) drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4096 Sep 1 07:59 log So, /var/log/ is a directory, user root can read, write, and execute everything in it, and group root and all others on the system can read and execute everything in it. _But_ $ls -l /var/log/messages gets you -rw-r-1 root adm 78711 Sep 1 15:52 /var/log/messages which tells you that user root can read and write to this file, and anyone in the group adm can _read_ the file. No-one else can read it, either. A -- Andrew Sullivan Computer Services <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Burlington Public Library +1 905 639 3611 x158 2331 New Street Burlington, Ontario, Canada L7R 1J4
ReadmeName and HeaderName in Apache
Hi, Both ReadmeName and HeaderName somehow don't work in my Apache. Nothing is appended to any directory listing while README and HEADER exist in the relevant directory and are readable to all users. I have Apache 1.3.9, Apache-SSL 1.3.9 (both Debian packages) and Apache 1.3.12 (compiled myself). My Debian version is 2.2 and my kernel is 2.2.16. It's not really important, but it sure is irritating. As far as I'm concerned my Apache configuration is okay: it says ReadmeName README HeaderName HEADER in srm.conf (in 1.3.9), and in httpd.conf (in 1.3.12) Both directives are used only once in my (general) server config, not in any virtual host, directory or .htaccess context. The files README and HEADER have the right permissions and UID/GID, since I can view the content via the browser when I enter the URI (e.g. http://www.mysite/somedir/README) manually. The required module for these directives (autoindex_module) is loaded -- of course, otherwise the apachectl wouldn't start apache in the first place, due to a broken configuration. I do know Apache has changed somewhat regarding the handling of the ReadmeName and HeaderName directives after version 1.3.6, but I don't want to downgrade to 1.3.6 to try it out... although I could try it on my old 486 box, which I have to seek somewhere in the "well-organized" storage room, though :) Anyways, it really puzzles me. Regards, Amir
Re: howto recreate /dev/null ?
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 09:09:21PM +0200, Sven Burgener wrote: > On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 11:35:46PM -0500, Will Trillich wrote: > > what's redirecting to '/dev/null' good for? here's > > an example. if you're not running 'fetchmail' as its > > own background daemon, to yank your email from various > > servers, you can have cron do it for you. the thing is, > > you get lots of tripe in the output. it tells you all > > about how each message contains X octets, and how it's > > downloading the data... none of which you really need. > > > > 15 * * * * fetchmail > /dev/null 2>&1 > > Not to be mean or anything, but FYI fetchmail can be made > silent with "-s": > -s, --silent work silently > > But then again, you probably already knew that. :) you're half right. i suspected, but hadn't explored the docs to find out. is there a performance penalty comparing these two some_verbose_command > /dev/null versus some_verbose_command --silent_running > > you can also use /dev/null for STDIN as in > > somecommand < /dev/null > > in which case for ANY 'read' that the command does > > from STDIN, it'll get EOF forever. > > Yup, just like the following line demonstrates nicely: :) > > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ > > < /dev/null good eye. i thought about that one just after i hit the SEND button. (i guess i need a shorter send button.)
Re: kde or gnome?
Ian Zimmerman wrote: > I tried both KDE and Gnome; in fact I tried installing Gnome multiple > times, and always came to the same conclusion (which is: I run KDE :). > The problem I have with Gnome is a bit subtle, and not obvious to > someone who's installing Linux or even a Linux GUI for the first time > and deciding between what's out there. > > Namely, Gnome does not include its own window manager; KDE does. > Gnome depends on hooks for Gnome support compiled into an external > window manager, and at present the only window manager with full > support for Gnome seems to be Enlightenment, AKA `E'. Also sawfish (aka The Window Manager Formerly Known As Sawmill), which is the one I use with Gnome. For me, the seperation of the window manager is a positive point. I like to fiddle. ::grin:: I've gone through quite a few wm's during the time I've used Linux. Currently, I'm on Gnome/Sawfish, but there's a better than even chance that over the next year or so I'll try out a few more. > And E is a _HOG_. I mean, it's a ho. There seems to be no easy > way to make it not use bitmap textures for everything imaginable on > the screen, including caption bars and even menus. The results are > predictable. With KDE, the entire Linux boot sequence is still much > faster than Windoze; with Gnome and E, it's a toss-up :-( That's on a > 32M/P160 machine, which doesn't strike me as minimalistic. Agreed - E is a hog. There are wm's that are lighter than sawfish, but I find sawfish to be quite acceptable. I'm currently on a PII300, but not too long ago was on a P166 - both machines with 64 megs RAM - and found sawfish to work reasonably well on both machines. But what it all comes down to, really, is what works best for *you*. That's one of the things that I *really* like about Linux - you've got the choices out there. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and | everything is of great understanding, '91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom.
RE: /etc/passwd & user IRC
On 01-Sep-2000 Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar wrote: > Hello, > > I was searching for UID of irc user (some time ago I've seen such user > exists); now I can't find it. adding of irc package runs adduser --system > which is nice but I don't prefer that method (some UIDs were already > allocated for some users sometie ago, why not to use them?). > > dpkg -S /etc/passwd tells /etc/passwd belongs to no package (very nice...) > > Now, please don't advise just get one free number; if you can respond > - why doesn't /etc/passwd belong to any package ? it is generated, not provided. the package in question is a mix of base-files and base-passwd. > - why was user 'irc' removed ? > - is it safe to create user with uid 39 that was used for irc some time ago? in general it is a bad idea to add system level users, Debian may need uid 39 to be something else.
Re: sound blaster live
I'm not sure about SB Live, but shouldn't it also work as es1371 just like SB128? or does it have a different chipset? -- Danny Pansters [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ricin.com
Re: kde or gnome?
> "Felix" == Felix Natter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Helgi> Of course it depends on who you ask.:-) Generally I like Helgi> KDE because it is locical in so many ways, but I don't like how Helgi> big it is and therefore takes a lot of resources, and it's not Helgi> 'free'. Gnome is faster (for me) but I got problems with using Helgi> different Felix> kde 2.0 might well be faster than GNOME 1.2, because GNOME Felix> still uses CORBA for object embedding, while KDE uses DCOP, Felix> which "builds on inter- process communication". Thus, DCOP is Felix> more lightweight, but not fully network-aware (although network Felix> communcations will be possible by connecting the DCOP-servers). This is from someone who just half a year ago wouldn't leave text mode, so take it with a grain of salt. First, KDE _is_ totally free. The only problem with it, license-wise, is that it uses Qt, whose license, although _also_ free, is incompatible with GPL. I tried both KDE and Gnome; in fact I tried installing Gnome multiple times, and always came to the same conclusion (which is: I run KDE :). The problem I have with Gnome is a bit subtle, and not obvious to someone who's installing Linux or even a Linux GUI for the first time and deciding between what's out there. Namely, Gnome does not include its own window manager; KDE does. Gnome depends on hooks for Gnome support compiled into an external window manager, and at present the only window manager with full support for Gnome seems to be Enlightenment, AKA `E'. And E is a _HOG_. I mean, it's a ho. There seems to be no easy way to make it not use bitmap textures for everything imaginable on the screen, including caption bars and even menus. The results are predictable. With KDE, the entire Linux boot sequence is still much faster than Windoze; with Gnome and E, it's a toss-up :-( That's on a 32M/P160 machine, which doesn't strike me as minimalistic. -- Ian Zimmerman, Oakland, California, U.S.A. In his own soul a man bears the source from which he draws all his sorrows and his joys. Sophocles.
Followup: access to /var/log/messages
I usually add myself to the adm group. That way, I get access to the file /var/log/messages. You can use either adduser or usermod utilities. The latter can mess thigs up if you don't list your groups carefully -- read the man pages. Andrew, I used adduser adm and it worked like a charm. My question is why does it work? The folder /var/log is owned by root and has root group. Why does adm have rights to that...how does that all fit together? Bill
Debian site
Looks like they're back up now.
/etc/passwd & user IRC
Hello, I was searching for UID of irc user (some time ago I've seen such user exists); now I can't find it. adding of irc package runs adduser --system which is nice but I don't prefer that method (some UIDs were already allocated for some users sometie ago, why not to use them?). dpkg -S /etc/passwd tells /etc/passwd belongs to no package (very nice...) Now, please don't advise just get one free number; if you can respond - why doesn't /etc/passwd belong to any package ? - why was user 'irc' removed ? - is it safe to create user with uid 39 that was used for irc some time ago? - why does ircd package create user irc then ? -- Matus "fantomas" Uhlar, sysadmin at NEXTRA, Slovakia; IRCNET admin of *.sk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ ; http://www.nextra.sk/ If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends?
Re: howto recreate /dev/null ?
On Fri, 01 Sep 2000, Will Trillich wrote: > On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 08:58:43PM -0700, Jeremiah Hunter Savage wrote: > > Okay, > > > > This is definitely a newbie question. I keep on reading about sending > > things to /dev/null. So I thought I would give a try: > > > > mv file /dev/null > > > > Yes I was root. > > So how do I recreate /dev/null? > > hmm. i'm a second-iteration newbie, so i may be off base. > i'll give it a try, anyhow. > > are you saying you DO NOT ALREADY have a 'null' entry under > the '/dev' directory? it's hard for me to believe. if you > truly don't have any such item, i'm not sure how to create > it; but it shoula been created when you formatted your > linux/unix system... [very big albeit interesting snip] No he's saying he replaced his /dev/null with that file! The original post made me laugh, no comments on this one ;-) Greetz, Dan -- Danny Pansters [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ricin.com
Re: Debian site down?
According to Geordie Birch: > THUS SPAKE Miquel van Smoorenburg, on Sep 1: > > > > You can use one of the mirrors, ofcourse. www..debian.org > > doesn't work for the canadian one: http://www.ca.debian.org is in chinese. > there are a lot of chinese speakers in canada but i don't think that's the > deal. That's pretty cool ;) That's probably because of the Language setting in the Apache config. Well, either it has now been fixed, or my Netscape does something different from your browser, since it's now in English again. Mike.
Re: RealTek NIC card problem
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > Hello everybody, > > I have a machine running 2.0.36 kernel and a RealTek 8139B card installed. > When I sit at the consol, everything is fine, however, if I connect to the > machine via, say ssh, and run netscape, the network card stops responding > and on the consol I see the message: > > eth0: Transmit timeout, status 0d 2000 > > # ifconfig eth0 down > and then > # /etc/init.d/network > fixes the problem. This situation is repeatable. So, could someone tell me > what is happening and if there is a way to fix it? The revision of the rtl8139 driver you're using sucks You need to upgrade your kernel, specifcially to the latest 2.2 (2.2.17pre20 has been said to be the most solid 2.2 kernel to date) and parts of your distribution (it looks like you're running slink, you really should be running potato or expect things to not work once you go with 2.2). -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] "There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstien
Re: howto recreate /dev/null ?
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 11:35:46PM -0500, Will Trillich wrote: > what's redirecting to '/dev/null' good for? here's > an example. if you're not running 'fetchmail' as its > own background daemon, to yank your email from various > servers, you can have cron do it for you. the thing is, > you get lots of tripe in the output. it tells you all > about how each message contains X octets, and how it's > downloading the data... none of which you really need. > > 15 * * * * fetchmail > /dev/null 2>&1 Not to be mean or anything, but FYI fetchmail can be made silent with "-s": -s, --silent work silently But then again, you probably already knew that. :) > you can also use /dev/null for STDIN as in > somecommand < /dev/null > in which case for ANY 'read' that the command does > from STDIN, it'll get EOF forever. Yup, just like the following line demonstrates nicely: :) > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ > < /dev/null Sven -- Have you rebooted your NT box today?
Re: wvdial
Rubbish5 writes: > I linked ttyS14 to my /dev/modem (or maybe the other way around, either > way I did it out of a book, so I know it's right :-) The book is wrong. Use the ttyS* device directly. Don't use the traditional /dev/modem link (that doesn't account for your problem, though). Where is the wvdial.conf file? What are its permissions? Are you running wvdial as root? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
RealTek NIC card problem
Hello everybody, I have a machine running 2.0.36 kernel and a RealTek 8139B card installed. When I sit at the consol, everything is fine, however, if I connect to the machine via, say ssh, and run netscape, the network card stops responding and on the consol I see the message: eth0: Transmit timeout, status 0d 2000 # ifconfig eth0 down and then # /etc/init.d/network fixes the problem. This situation is repeatable. So, could someone tell me what is happening and if there is a way to fix it? Thank you very much. Lazar
Re: Linux crashed a lot - more info
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is scary. I had a problem similar to this on my old work computer. > Netscape > would crash all the time, xterms wouldn't start, library errors, compiling > errors, ftp checksums incorrect, etc. The system never crashed but was very > unreliable. Turns out the memory was bad, after running some test programs I > got > from http://freshmeat.net. I'll borrow some RAM from someone at work, and also check out the memory test programs when I get home. If that is the problem, I hope my warrantee covers RAM... What you say makes it scarier: I just remembered my trouble with installing packages. When doing my net-install of Potato, I had some packages that wouldn't install. I finally deleted the .debs, and re-tried a few times until it worked. I also had trouble getting a non-corrupted kernel tarball, and it took several tries until I got one that I could use. john > So, I replaced the memory, and it worked alright for 2 months, then, it > started > having problems again. New NIC, same problems. I tried replacing many > different > pieces but to no luck. Finally, I just switched machines and no problems. > Unfortunately this sounds like you have a similar scenrio. > > My only advice is to try and narrow it down to one piece of hardware. Swap in > and out parts (if you have them available) one at a time and see if the > problem > persists. > > Linux has always been extrememly stable for me, minus this one spooked > computer:) > > Scott
access to /var/log/messages
Greetings Debians, I'd like to give access to the directory /var/log/messages to my user account so I can watch what messages are being displayed there. I'd do this with tail -f /var/log/messages. Problem is my user accnt has no permissions on that directory. I could change the permissions on the directory itself but then any other user can look into that data and I'd rather not have that. Therefore is it wise policy to add my user account to the 'root' group? Would that solve the problem while maintaining system security? Or is there a better way of achieving this? And how would I go about adding myself to the root group...modify /etc/group? Thanks, Bill
Patching the kernel
I'm trying to apply the IDE patch so I can get UDMA with my ASUS P5A (Aladdin chipset) motherboard. I know how to build a kernel using make-dpkg and I have successfully applied patches also, but I have not before used a Debian kernel-patch deb. The docs are giving me a splitting headache. I'm told (in the kernel-package/README) that: "If you're using the patch_the_kernel facility, you may want to remove step 2 and instead insert `--config=menuconfig' into the make-kpkg command-line of step 4 (or perhaps use `xconfig' or `config' in place of `menuconfig'). This way, patching the kernel happens before menuconfig (or whichever), and you'll get better defaults for any questions introduced by the patches. (Also look at the --added_patches command line option to selectively apply some patches in conjunction with patch_the_kernel)." This certainly seems like good advice because otherwise the Aladdin options are not available with make xconfig (or whatever config you use). Note however that make-kpkg --help does not include this option. man make-kpkg does mention it, but there is a mysterious semicolon after target. Anyway, I've tried it both with and without the semicolon and neither approach works. Here's my command line: make-kpkg --config xconfig --revision=3:epting-idedma.1 kernel_image and here's the error message: /usr/share/kernel-package/rules:805: *** Need an config file .config. Stop. (At this point, my kernel is possibly patched, because make xconfig does show the new compile options, but then again, maybe not...) So, can you either help me with syntax or give me another way to use a debian kernel-patch file?
Re: Debian site down?
THUS SPAKE Geordie Birch, on Sep 1: > THUS SPAKE Miquel van Smoorenburg, on Sep 1: > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > Thomas Guettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 10:17:44AM -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > > >> Is the www.debian.org down for long? (do you know?) > > > > > >according to a mail in debian-dev until tomorrow morning. > > > > You can use one of the mirrors, ofcourse. www..debian.org > > > > Mike. > > > > doesn't work for the canadian one: http://www.ca.debian.org is in chinese. > there are a lot of chinese speakers in canada but i don't think that's the > deal. > i'm told by one person that it was in english for them - must be browser weirdness _ Geordie Birch TAO Vancouver http://vancouver.tao.ca "Belief is the death of intelligence"
Re: Linux crashed a lot - more info
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/01/2000 12:08:02 PM This is scary. I had a problem similar to this on my old work computer. Netscape would crash all the time, xterms wouldn't start, library errors, compiling errors, ftp checksums incorrect, etc. The system never crashed but was very unreliable. Turns out the memory was bad, after running some test programs I got from http://freshmeat.net. So, I replaced the memory, and it worked alright for 2 months, then, it started having problems again. New NIC, same problems. I tried replacing many different pieces but to no luck. Finally, I just switched machines and no problems. Unfortunately this sounds like you have a similar scenrio. My only advice is to try and narrow it down to one piece of hardware. Swap in and out parts (if you have them available) one at a time and see if the problem persists. Linux has always been extrememly stable for me, minus this one spooked computer:) Scott Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:28:43 -0500 From: John Reinke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Linux crashes a lot - more info Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I should have included some specs. I guess I was too frustrated to think of that... Hardware: 500MHz Athlon (NO overclocking, no overheating) 96MB RAM (appended 96M in LILO, and accounted for in 'free') ATI Rage Pro (8MB) Software: Debian 2.2 (Potato net-installation) 128MB Swap XF86_Mach64 X server (set to 1024x768 resolution) I'm able to compile a kernel without crashing. I don't know if Windows will run on it, because it's a dedicated Linux machine. Before I installed Potato, I had Corel Linux (Slink) installed. Although I was using KDE, it crashed just as often - usually under the same conditions, but I thought it was KDE. Let me know if there is other information I should provide. If it's in the logs, which logs should I look in? I know Linux isn't supposed to crash this often, but from people's reactions, there really is something wrong here... John
wvdial
Hi, The story thus far: I'm using Debian 2.1. I loaded up the ltmodem.o driver and all that's working just perfectly. I linked ttyS14 to my /dev/modem (or maybe the other way around, either way I did it out of a book, so I know it's right :-) The problem is, when I run wvdial, it displays a few a-o-k messages, then gives me a "warning: no dialing defaults section in wvdial.conf" or something very close to that. Since it can't find that section, it then continues to tell me my number, user id, and password are all not to be found. However, I do have the wvdial.conf file, which reads as such: [Dialer Defaults] Modem = /dev/ttyS14 Baud = 115200 Init1 = ATZ Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 S11=55 +FCLASS=0 Phone = 696-1586 Username = Password = So, to my knowlage, it looks like my setup is damn good :-) However, I wouldn't know really, so that's why I'm asking. The section is definately there, I created wvdial.conf with the wvdialconf program, so it automatically put it where it needs to be. Anyway, if anyway can help me out I really appreciate it, thanks! -Chris
Re: Debian site down?
THUS SPAKE Miquel van Smoorenburg, on Sep 1: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Thomas Guettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 10:17:44AM -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > >> Is the www.debian.org down for long? (do you know?) > > > >according to a mail in debian-dev until tomorrow morning. > > You can use one of the mirrors, ofcourse. www..debian.org > > Mike. > doesn't work for the canadian one: http://www.ca.debian.org is in chinese. there are a lot of chinese speakers in canada but i don't think that's the deal. _ Geordie Birch TAO Vancouver http://vancouver.tao.ca "Belief is the death of intelligence"
Re: Install of 2.2 not recognising Compaq Array
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 10:43:23AM +0100, Tony Holroyd wrote: > I am installing Debian 2.2 on a Compaq Proliant 800 with a p200 MMX > processor (1998 vintage) > The CD boots ok but does not recognise the Smart 2dh Array. (I know the > array works because the Novel 3.2 can still see it) Debian has several installation methods ( for more information see the debian homepage ). For cpq smart support you've to boot with the "compact rescue disk" or with the second binary-i386 cdrom. regards, -- Staf Wagemakers email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage : http://www.digibel.org/~staf
Re: fetchmail errors when my Netscape mails to @3rvs.com
I noticed the trailing "." as well. Is the sending system you refer to the remote system at the where the mail is being stored (ISP) or the mail agent I'm using (Netscape)? I'll look into rewrite options in the exim configuration file as well. Michael Heyes Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/01/2000 08:39:13 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org cc:(bcc: Mike Heyes/LincolnFP/BerisfordPlc) Subject: Re: fetchmail errors when my Netscape mails to @3rvs.com On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 08:28:04AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > SMTP> MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=899 > SMTP<501 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: dommain missing or malformed Exim is rejecting the mail because of the trailing . in the domain name of the sender. This is perhaps a bit picky, but seems reasonable (I haven't actually checked the specs to see if the trailing . is allowed). > Any idea what my fetchmail problem is? It doesn't look like fetchmail - it seems to just be believing what it sees as the sender address in the incoming mail. Either try to fix the sending system (I'm guessing it's another of your accounts) or try to convince Exim to be less picky. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: kde or gnome?
Helgi Örn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi! > > Of course it depends on who you ask.:-) > Generally I like KDE because it is locical in so many ways, but I don't > like how big it is and therefore takes a lot of resources, and it's not > 'free'. > Gnome is faster (for me) but I got problems with using different kde 2.0 might well be faster than GNOME 1.2, because GNOME still uses CORBA for object embedding, while KDE uses DCOP, which "builds on inter- process communication". Thus, DCOP is more lightweight, but not fully network-aware (although network communcations will be possible by connecting the DCOP-servers). On a low-memory PC (16Mb, 110Mhz), KDE 1.1.2 runs faster than GNOME 1.2.. -- Felix Natter
Re: groaster - missing libgtkmm
"Greg Strockbine." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've been using linux less than a week. > Last night I wanted to burn a CD, I thought > a front end to cdrecord would be nice. > I went after groaster_0.2513.2.deb, an > unstable package. > > everything was going cool till it got to > libgtkmm, it was listed on the dependency page, > but said it was not available. > > Is there a way around this or have I hit the > cutting edge here? > > Also, while installing I noticed it replaced libc6. > I had a funny feeling like I was back in DOS world, > where every app you install wants to overwrite a > common dll file. Is there a danger I can break > the system (running gnome)? > > this happened to me in FreeBSD 3.1 a few years ago. > All color photos I viewed in netscape came out > colorized. I put up with it for a long time, then > wiped the disk and installed Linux. > > - greg strockbine there should be a debian package (the source-tree contains a debian-directory). try looking at gtkmm.sourceforge.net. -- Felix Natter
Re: jdk1.2 deb package
Thomas Kirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Joerg Mueller wrote: > > > Hi! > > I'm developing in Java and need at least jdk1.2, 1.3 would be better. Is > > there any .deb package for this available? I can only find jdk1.1. Until > > now I took the tarball from blackdown and installed it under /usr/local, > > but of course this breaks many other packages (especially ddd and > > emacs-jde). Any tips? > > thanks, joerg > > > > -- > > I'm working on an intuitive editor for tree-structured data: > > See freemind.sourceforge.net > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > JDK1.2.2 for Linux is available at "http://java.sun.com/products/jdk/1.2/"; that is only one java 2 version. there is also the blackdown version (www.blackdown.org), and I believe there is one from IBM. the one from sun does not work with glibc 2.1 (slink). -- Felix Natter
Re: Console based Word Processor
On 01-Sep-00 Paul Seelig wrote: > On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:38:19AM -0400, Joseph C. Tuttle wrote: >> >> I've heard this before, but I haven't been able to find WP 5.x on >> either of the two WP 8 CDs I have. >> > It is only included in the retail server edition. Check for yourself > at "http://linux.corel.com/products/wp8/features.htm";. At that site it says: Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux Character Terminal Binary for non-GUI terminal users Note "WordPerfect 8", not "WordPerfect 5" Maybe this is indeed the good old WP5, but maybe it is simply WP8 with all its disadvantages and none of its advantages ... Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 284 7749 Date: 01-Sep-00 Time: 18:29:07 -- XFMail --
Re: sound blaster live
I thought that was the case, (not knowing how to recompile the kernel yet) and I just installed the base, I just went and reinstalled the base with those support, so I believe they're compiled in the kernel now, but I still get the same messages. Le 2000-09-01 00:15:33 +, Wilson Fung écrivait : > I have a sound blaster live value card, and guess what, I'm new to linux. I > downloaded the ALSA 0.59 driver, compiled it and when I modprobe it, it says > unresolved symbols in snd.o and emu10k1.o. Am I missing something? > > Wil I guess that either for the Alsa driver or the standalone creative driver, you need a kernel compiled with "Sound card support" enabled or compiled as a module (soundcore.o). If it is not the case, that might be the explanation of the errors you get. Hope it helps. -- Jean-Philippe Guérard _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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Re: Potato or Woody
%% "Christopher W. Aiken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: cwa> I see all of the code names "Potato & Woody" mentioned in cwa> a lot of the discussions. Who is newer, Potato or Woody? cwa> How do I know which version that I just got in the mail? cwa> My "official" CD's indicate that I have Ver. 2.2_r0 cwa> uname -a displays: cwa> Linux Debian 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i686 unknown Debian releases are code-named after characters in Toy Story, during their development. After they're released, they have "normal" version numbers. Potato was the just-released Debian, version 2.2, so that's what you have. That's the current Debian "stable" release. Woody is the currently under-development, or "unstable", release. HTH. -- --- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Network Management Development "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist --- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.
make-kpkg problem
I just upgraded from slink to potato rather successfully. I am having a problem upgrading my kernel from 2.0.38 to 2.2.17. I installed kernel-package, and grabbed the Debian kernel-source-2.2.17 package, unzipped/untarred it from /usr/src, creating the new directory /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17. Then ran these commands: # ln -s kernel-source-2.2.17 linux # cd linux # make config # make-kpkg clean # make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image Here is the last few lines of output from the last command: make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/arch/i386/lib' make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17' gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing \ -o scripts/split-include scripts/split-include.c make[1]: *** No rule to make target `include/linux/autoconf.h', \ needed by `include/config/MARKER'. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17' make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2 # I am using gcc 2.95.2-13, and kernel-package 7.04.potato.3. I have read thru the README and Problems files in the kernel-package docs, but have not found a clue for this. Any help would be appreciated. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Larry Holish[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Potato or Woody
Woody is the development version Potato is the stable version, also called version 2.2. If you're looking for stability and reliability for a production machine (high-availability webserver), go for potato. If you want the "bleeding edge", go for woody. Or, if you're completely insane, like me, you can use custom sources (like the helixcode stuff) as an addition to woody. "Christopher W. Aiken" wrote: > Sorry if this is a repeat, I lost my phone connection > just I mailed this off. > > I'm obviously a Debian newbie, although I've been using > Linux and FreeBSD for several years as a "home workstation". > > I see all of the code names "Potato & Woody" mentioned in > a lot of the discussions. Who is newer, Potato or Woody? > How do I know which version that I just got in the mail? > > My "official" CD's indicate that I have Ver. 2.2_r0 > uname -a displays: > Linux Debian 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i686 unknown > > -- > --- > Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA > chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com > Preferred O/S: FreeBSD 4.0 > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Potato or Woody
Debian 2.2 is potato. Woody is the current "unstable" version, which will receive a number when it is released. On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 01:41:30PM -0400, Christopher W. Aiken wrote: > I'm obviously a Debian newbie, although I've been using > Linux and FreeBSD for several years as a "home workstation". > > I see all of the code names "Potato & Woody" mentioned in > a lot of the discussions. Who is newer, Potato or Woody? > How do I know which version that I just got in the mail? > > My "official" CD's indicate that I have Ver. 2.2_r0 > uname -a displays: > Linux Debian 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i686 unknown -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
Re: Potato or Woody
woody is newer, but it is "unstable" potato is the current stable(only a few weeks old) i'd highly reccomend sticking to potato and only installing individual woody packages if they are not in potato unless you want to get into some testing, as woody is evolving all the time. right now woody/potato seems quite similar since woody only started a few months ago. i had 1 woody box at work and it ran great never had a problem(dont work there anymore) everythign else is potato or slink. nate "Christopher W. Aiken" wrote: > > I'm obviously a Debian newbie, although I've been using > Linux and FreeBSD for several years as a "home workstation". > > I see all of the code names "Potato & Woody" mentioned in > a lot of the discussions. Who is newer, Potato or Woody? > How do I know which version that I just got in the mail? > > My "official" CD's indicate that I have Ver. 2.2_r0 > uname -a displays: > Linux Debian 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i686 unknown > > -- > --- > Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA > chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com > Preferred O/S: FreeBSD 4.0 > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Potato or Woody
Sorry if this is a repeat, I lost my phone connection just I mailed this off. I'm obviously a Debian newbie, although I've been using Linux and FreeBSD for several years as a "home workstation". I see all of the code names "Potato & Woody" mentioned in a lot of the discussions. Who is newer, Potato or Woody? How do I know which version that I just got in the mail? My "official" CD's indicate that I have Ver. 2.2_r0 uname -a displays: Linux Debian 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i686 unknown -- --- Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com Preferred O/S: FreeBSD 4.0
Potato or Woody
I'm obviously a Debian newbie, although I've been using Linux and FreeBSD for several years as a "home workstation". I see all of the code names "Potato & Woody" mentioned in a lot of the discussions. Who is newer, Potato or Woody? How do I know which version that I just got in the mail? My "official" CD's indicate that I have Ver. 2.2_r0 uname -a displays: Linux Debian 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i686 unknown -- --- Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com Preferred O/S: FreeBSD 4.0
