Re: Me he cargado un directorio!!! :_(

2000-11-09 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 07:52:11PM +0100, Lluis Vilanova wrote:
 Entre como root con el mc y alli la opcion Recuperar ficheros del menu
 Comando; me cargo tropecientosmiles de archivos, trocitos y demas cosas y 
 hice un filtrado con una busqueda de la cadena Unsubcribe? , copie la
 salida a un nuevo directorio y.. YA TENGO LOS MAILS :) (recupere unos 500
 y bastantes y creo recordar que antes tb tenia un numero parecido).

Apunta recover y gtkrecover en tu agenda para la próxima cita con el
Sr. rm accidental :)

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Re: El disco duro ha petado (mas o menos)

2000-11-09 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 08:40:44PM +0100, Lluis Vilanova wrote:
 Emmm ... espera que te abro la caja...

Euh? Abrir la caja para ver el modelo?
Si tienes... hdparm para verlo! :P

natura:~# hdparm -i /dev/hda 

/dev/hda:

 Model=Maxtor 90648D3, FwRev=GAS54112, SerialNo=A304PVXC
 Config={ Fixed }
 RawCHS=12556/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=29
 BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=256kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
 CurCHS=12556/16/63, CurSects=12656448, LBA=yes, LBAsects=12656448
 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
 PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 
 DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 *mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 

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Re: Ahhhhh!

2000-11-09 Thread Oriol de la Dehesa Demaria
   No me suena muy bien. Las particiones 3, 6 y 7 no existen, y la 5 ocupa el
 mismo espacio que la 2, sin contar con que aparece como Win95 FAT 32. Que
 tengo Doctor?
 ...
 Sin faltar a la verdad se puede decir que tienes un disco rígido
 sin rastros del linux que habías instalado :(
  

Yo he tenido una experiencia similar. Al final la resolví con un programa
llamado gpart . Básicamente adivina la antigua tabla  de particionas. La
cuestión es arrancar con algún disco Linux que te de shell (el CD-ROM de
instalación de Debian, por ejemplo) . Yo en mi caso, me lleve el binario
compilado estáticamente en un disquette (busca en Google gpart). 

Lo ejecutas y primero te da una lista de lo que cree que serían las particiones
del disco. Si ves que esta información es correcta, puedes cruzar los dedos y
escribir de nuevo la tabla. Consulta la documentación y cruza los dedos.

Yo recuperé dos particiones y toda su información con este programa.

Un saludo.

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ruteo entre interfaces

2000-11-09 Thread admsis2
hola listeros, me gustaria saber como puedo hacer para que las dos interfaces 
de red de mi equipo puedan rutear entre ellas. 
gracias



icewm y posición inicial de ventanas

2000-11-09 Thread Hue-Bond
 Uolas!

 De un tiempo  a esta parte (quizá desde que  actualicé al icewm
 de potato),  las ventanas me salen  en el sitio que  icewm cree más
 inteligente,  de forma  que algunas  me aparecen  por debajo  del
 xosview (que  tengo en una  capa superior  y aparece por  encima de
 los  demás). Quisiera  desactivar  esta característica  pero no  he
 encontrado nada en el archivo preferencies... ¿cómo lo hago?


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Imprimir con slrn

2000-11-09 Thread Migue Reyes
Hola a todos:

Tengo un curioso problema con la impresora (Epson, pero creo que es lo de 
menos): fue configurada con magicfilter, y funciona perfectamente con todas las 
llamadas que le hacen mutt, netscape, gedit, etc...

Menos con el slrn. (el comando es y para imprimir).
El piloto que hay encima del botón de encendido se pone a parpadear, pero no 
saca ni una mala página.
He mirado en el slrn.rc y no encuentro nada que modificar.

Alguna ayuda?

Gracias.
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ppp

2000-11-09 Thread Javier Bregant



hola, soy usuario medianamente nuevo de linux y me llego a las 
manos la distribucion debian 2.2.17 del mismo. Pero tengo un problema cuando 
quiero conectarme a internet mediante dial-up. Tengo un winmodem zoltrix HSP56K 
pci, lo hice funcionar perome pasa esto:

llamo con el wvdial

ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 S11=55OK-- Modem 
initialized.-- Sending: ATDT 06109998600-- Waiting for 
carrier.ATDT 06109998600CONNECT 115200-- Carrier detected. 
Waiting for prompt.** Ascend TNT Terminal Server **Login: -- 
Looks like a login prompt.-- Sending: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]Password: 
-- Looks like a password prompt.-- Sending: 
(password) Entering PPP Session. IP 
address is 200.51.244.144 MTU is 1500.-- Looks like a 
welcome message.-- Starting pppd at Thu Nov 9 18:18:48 
2000-- PPP was killed! (signal = 11)-- Disconnecting at Thu 
Nov 9 18:18:51 2000-- Auto Reconnect will be attempted in 5 
seconds-- pppd error! Look at files in /var/log for an 
explanation.  

me fije en /var/log/syslog.log :
Nov 9 18:18:49 debian kernel: CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the 
University of California
Nov 9 18:18:50 debian kernel: PPP: version 2.3.7 (demand dialling)
Nov 9 18:18:50 debian kernel: PPP line discipline registered.
Nov 9 18:18:50 debian kernel: registered device ppp0
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian pppd[1467]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian pppd[1467]: Using interface ppp0
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian pppd[1467]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS15
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at 
virtual address 6000
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: current-tss.cr3 = 0044e000, %cr3 = 
0044e000
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: *pde = 
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: Oops: 0002
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: CPU: 0
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: EIP: 
0010:[vfat:__insmod_vfat_S.data_L336+310809/4266423]
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: EFLAGS: 00010012
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: eax:  ebx: 002d ecx: 000b edx: 
1000
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: esi: c07a7638 edi: 6000 ebp: c07a7400 esp: 
c093bedc
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: Process pppd (pid: 1467, process nr: 53, 
stackpage=c093b000)
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: Stack: 0001 c07a7400 0286  
c20d6f54 c062f000  c07a7638 
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: 002d c07a7400 c0f891b0 c15df790 c20d6e7c 
c07a7400 c021 c20d90a9 
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: c07a7400 c15df790 c07a7420 c07a7400 c07a7400 
c0f891b0 0018 c20d93a7 
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: Call Trace: 
[vfat:__insmod_vfat_S.data_L336+630132/3947100] 
[vfat:__insmod_vfat_S.data_L336+629916/3947316] 
[vfat:__insmod_vfat_S.data_L336+638665/3938567] 
[vfat:__insmod_vfat_S.data_L336+639431/3937801] 
[vfat:__insmod_vfat_S.data_L336+627966/3949266] [tty_write+442/524] 
[vfat:__insmod_vfat_S.data_L336+627724/3949508] 
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: [sys_write+194/228] [system_call+52/56] 
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: Code: f3 a5 f6 c3 02 74 02 66 a5 f6 c3 01 74 01 
a4 89 d8 03 45 5c 
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer 
dereference at virtual address 0014
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: current-tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 
00101000
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: *pde = 
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: Oops: 
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: CPU: 0
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: EIP: 
0010:[vfat:__insmod_vfat_S.data_L336+315768/4261464]
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: EFLAGS: 00010282
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: eax: c062f000 ebx:  ecx: c062f000 edx: 
c062f000
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: esi: c062f000 edi: c062f100 ebp: 0002 esp: 
c093bddc
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: Process pppd (pid: 1467, process nr: 53, 
stackpage=c093b000)
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: Stack: c019bfb1 c062f000 c062f000 05bb 
0001 c02f6000 c062f000 c062f970 
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: c062f96c  c019bffd c062f000 c019c06e 
c062f000  c10f4000 
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: c093a000 c0118688 0001 0286 c0c09dc0 
0020 0001 c01188cb 
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: Call Trace: [do_tty_hangup+653/664] 
[tty_vhangup+9/16] [disassociate_ctty+86/208] [exit_notify+484/492] 
[do_exit+571/644] [die+53/56] [error_table+2631/10176] 
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: [error_table+9902/10176] 
[do_page_fault+680/932] [error_table+9902/10176] [error_code+45/52] 
[vfat:__insmod_vfat_S.data_L336+310809/4266423] 
[vfat:__insmod_vfat_S.data_L336+630132/3947100] 
[vfat:__insmod_vfat_S.data_L336+629916/3947316] 
[vfat:__insmod_vfat_S.data_L336+638665/3938567] 
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: [vfat:__insmod_vfat_S.data_L336+639431/3937801] 
[vfat:__insmod_vfat_S.data_L336+627966/3949266] [tty_write+442/524] 
[vfat:__insmod_vfat_S.data_L336+627724/3949508] [sys_write+194/228] 
[system_call+52/56] 
Nov 9 18:18:51 debian kernel: Code: 8b 73 14 50 e8 63 ed ff ff 53 e8 a9 e1 ff 
ff c7 

Servicios al iniciar

2000-11-09 Thread Carlos

Como puedo elegir los procesos que quiero que se ejecuten
al arrancar? (apache, lpd, etc)

No sera quitando los links de /etc/rcX.d no?

Gracias



Re: Servicios al iniciar

2000-11-09 Thread Enrique Robledo Arnuncio
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 10:58:18PM +, Carlos wrote:
 Como puedo elegir los procesos que quiero que se ejecuten
 al arrancar? (apache, lpd, etc)
 
 No sera quitando los links de /etc/rcX.d no?

Pues sí, es la forma más sencilla.

Los paquetes que instalan servicios de esos utilizan el script

   /usr/sbin/update-rc.d

para poner y quitar esos links. Quizás puedas hacerlo tú así, aunque
es más simple hacerlo a mano ;).
 
(mira man update-rc.d)

   Enrique.



RE: compilación kernel debian

2000-11-09 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
At 11:16 a.m. 2000-11-06 +0100, Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia wrote:
On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Ugo Enrico Albarello wrote:

 
 Yo prefiero editar /usr/src/linux/Makefile, y cambiar la linea EXTRAVERSION,
 tal como lo hace Alan Cox. Asi no toca renombrar nada y todo queda funcionado
 al pelo.
 
Por favor podrias ampliar la explicacion? Que se pone al cambiar 
EXTRAVERSION?

Le pones cualquier cosa, por ejemplo:
EXTRAVERSION = jose1

y ya... cuando instales, te va a quedar /lib/modules/2.x.yjose1




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qmail vs postfix

2000-11-09 Thread Carles Pina i Estany

hola

es verdad que en debian querian poner postfix en lugar de qmail? alguno es
mucho mejor o son más o menos igual? alguien tiene experincia con los dos
y los ha comparado?

por cierto, qué 2 paquetes eran necesarios para instalar qmail? (lo hice
en casa pero no me acuerdo, uno era algo de tcp no sé qué y se tenian de
compilar los dos)

buenas noches


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RAID y raidtools en potato

2000-11-09 Thread Andres Seco Hernandez
Hola

En un ratillo he dejado funcionando una potato con una partición creada
mediante linear del raid que viene incluido en el kernel de potato
(2.2.17) y las raidtools.

Lo que he visto es que ese soporte de raid que viene compilado en el
nucleo es el antiguo 0.4.nosequé, y para poner el nuevo 0.9 hay que
parchear el nucleo, pero el paquete de parches que viene para este raid es
para el nucleo 2.2.10 y no deja parchear el 2.2.17. Por otra parte, claro,
hay que montar raidtools2 para el nuevo raid.

Me corría prisa tener una superunidad de mucha capacidad, y he hecho la
guarrería de unir 3 discos de 8 GB IDE, una partición IDE de 6 GB, y 2
discos SCSI de 4 GB, para un total de unos 38 GB. Se trata de un entorno
en explotación en real, y como no tengo experiencia con el raid de linux,
se me plantean algunas preguntas:

- ¿alguien de la lista lo ha usado considera que es fiable? ¿le ha hecho
  alguna pirula?

- ¿merece la pena usar el nuevo raid 0.9 en vez del antiguo 0.4?

- ¿el 0.9 añade funcionalidades o corrige supererrores de los que te dejan
  tiritando?

Muchísimas gracias.

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Re: qmail vs postfix

2000-11-09 Thread Chafar
Carles Pina i Estany wrote:
 
 hola
 
 es verdad que en debian querian poner postfix en lugar de qmail? alguno es
 mucho mejor o son más o menos igual? alguien tiene experincia con los dos
 y los ha comparado?
 
 por cierto, qué 2 paquetes eran necesarios para instalar qmail? (lo hice
 en casa pero no me acuerdo, uno era algo de tcp no sé qué y se tenian de
 compilar los dos)
 

tcpserver, para evitar inetd.

Por cierto, que yo sepa, los únicos problemas que hay en debian con
qmail tienen su raíz en los estrictos requerimientos de seguridad que
exige el autor para su distribución, poco 'acomodables' a la debian
policy.

Concretamente, el autor no permite la redistribución de binarios, mas
que en casos contados autorizados por él mismo; de ahí que haya que
compilarlos. Esas mismas restricciones a la redistribución son las que
lo ubican como non-free. Pero no te preocupes, que los .deb vienen muy
bien preparados y compilan e instalan sin problemas.

Saludos.
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Re: Servicios al iniciar

2000-11-09 Thread Enrique Marcote Peña
Carlos wrote:

 Como puedo elegir los procesos que quiero que se ejecuten
 al arrancar? (apache, lpd, etc)

 No sera quitando los links de /etc/rcX.d no?



 Gracias

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Yo es lo que haría.

Si te paras a mirar la forma que tienen esos scripts así como el script rc, 
verás que no hay
nada de raro en todo ello.

Un saludo,

Quique



cable cruzado

2000-11-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hola debianeros.

Como siempre por aquí de pregunton :).

En mi casa tengo dos equipos un 486 con 4 de ram y un Celeron 266 con 32 de 
ram, ambos con tarjetas compatibles ne2000, con debian 2.2 instalado 
(obviamente) jeje. Pero resulta que al conectarlos directamente no me dan ping.

ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 - Este es el primero
ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 - Este es el segundo

el primero se llama clep y el segundo 486, el caso es que no me dan ping.. y no 
se por que.. la verdad se muy poco de redes, y pues lo he configurado cuando 
instale la potato en la parte donde te ponen a escoger modulos a configurar.

Agradeciendo de antemano

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Re: icewm y posición inicial de ventanas

2000-11-09 Thread Chafar
Hue-Bond wrote:
 
  Uolas!
 
  De un tiempo  a esta parte (quizá desde que  actualicé al icewm
  de potato),  las ventanas me salen  en el sitio que  icewm cree más
  inteligente,  de forma  que algunas  me aparecen  por debajo  del
  xosview (que  tengo en una  capa superior  y aparece por  encima de
  los  demás). Quisiera  desactivar  esta característica  pero no  he
  encontrado nada en el archivo preferencies... ¿cómo lo hago?
 

En el panel de control - gestor de ventanas, debería salir un botón para
llamar al configurador, que, de todas formas, lo puedes llamar
directamente: icepref.

Saludos.
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Granada. Spain.



Re: mirror i Sverige?

2000-11-09 Thread Ingemar Fällman
Hej

Linuxarkivet har en helixcode-mirror.
deb ftp://ftp.linuxarkivet.nu/helix/distributions/debian unstable main
eller
deb http://ftp.linuxarkivet.nu/helix/distributions/debian unstable main

/I

Rustan Rosen wrote:
 
 Finns det någon bra helixcode-mirror? Huvudservern brukar vara slö för
 mig. Vilka andra adresser utom security (som väl följande är rätt?
 deb http://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free
 ) är bra att ha med?
 
 Har någon testat de senaste X-paketen från
 deb http://samosa.debian.org/%7Ebranden/ woody/i386/
 ?
 
 När dselect uppdaterar får jag upp en massa Ign xxx xxx Release, något
 fel, eller är det bara att strunta i?
 
 /Rustan
 
 On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Ingemar Fällman wrote:
 

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Re: nome da maquina

2000-11-09 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
Flavio Alberto wrote:
 
 Eu possuo uma maquina rodando debian 2.2 e gostaria de mudar o nome dela...
 ela possui uma placa de rede e roda dns + mail + www (apache)... eu gostaria
 de saber quais arquivos devo editar? me dissearm somente o /etc/hosts mas e
 a placa de rede nao tem que editar? as atualizacoes de dns apache e etc eu
 sei fazer somente a mudanca do nome que eu nao sei... alguem pode me ajudar?

Nome da máquina: /etc/hostname (lido pelo utilitário hostname)
Domínio: /etc/resolv.conf

Agora, convém verificar os aliases da sua máquina (principalmente por
estar 
rodando um servidor de e-mails) e verifique se ele é afetado pela
mudança.

Abraços!

 
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Re: Fw: [SpamCop:200.176.140.14,id:12646569] MailMatic

2000-11-09 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
Obrigado e parabéns pelo empenho em livrar nossa lista deste tipo de 
mensagens indesejáveis.

Carlos Laviola wrote:
 
 Olá pessoal, lembram do spam do programa (pra fazer spam!) MailMatic? Então,
 usando o SpamCop (www.spamcop.net) identifiquei os responsáveis (IP de quem
 enviou, do servidor, etc.). O spammer usava uma conexão discada da Terra,
 olhem a resposta que obtive deles... Legal saber que alguém aqui nesse pais
 também se importa!
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Abuse Terra - Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: abrsao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 5:39 PM
 Subject: RE: [SpamCop:200.176.140.14,id:12646569] MailMatic
 
  Olá,
 
  o usuário responsável pelo SPAM abaixo já foi localizado, bloqueado e será
  advertido
  fortemente pelo nosso atendimento.
 
  Em caso de reincidência, por favor entre em contato conosco pelo endereço
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Quake makes my mouse and screen mess up

2000-11-09 Thread Brandt Dusthimer



 If I play Quake for long enough, 10 - 15 
minutes, my screen starts to flicker on and off.(turning of VGA power off 
in my BIOSallowed me to play for another 5 minutes before it started to 
flicker) Also, my mouse only responds to the up/down axis. I get 
absolutely nothing from moving my mouse left and right. Does anyone know 
what might be causing this?

Thanks in advance,

Brandt Dusthimer


Re: Wvdial pppd

2000-11-09 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 06:20:39AM +0100, Marco Presi wrote:
 Hello :)
 
 Just A question: I always used wvdial with no problem, but I noted that
 many people (not only in this ml) depreciate it. Why? Security?

It's less flexible from a normal-user standpoint.  I haven't used it for
some time, but I seem to recall you had to be root to run it and eats up
a terminal in the process.  I never had a problem with it working either.

-- 
#! /bin/sh
# ppp-address: What's my Internet Address for ppp0 ?
/sbin/ifconfig ppp0 2 /dev/null | grep 'inet addr:' | sed \
's=.*inet 
addr\:\([0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\).*=\1='



Re: Wvdial pppd

2000-11-09 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 10:48:37PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
 Eric G . Miller writes:
  Try using pppconfig (as root) to configure ppp, adding your normal user
  to the allowed users (i.e. `adduser login dip` ).
 
 You can do that in pppconfig.  Go to 'Advanced Options' and select
 'Add-User'.

Yea, notice the tense; pppconfig is doing the adding (the adduser
is to indicate the addition to the group).  Guess I was a bit too short
with the explanation 8^)

-- 
#! /bin/sh
# ppp-address: What's my Internet Address for ppp0 ?
/sbin/ifconfig ppp0 2 /dev/null | grep 'inet addr:' | sed \
's=.*inet 
addr\:\([0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\).*=\1='



Re: inetd startup warns portmapper not running?

2000-11-09 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: RE: inetd startup warns portmapper not running?
Date: Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 06:52:11PM -0800

In reply to:Marc Wilson

Quoting Marc Wilson([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Here's a question for you... which package owns /usr/bin/rcpinfo on your
 box?  A Woody install of mine doesn't have it, despite having netkit-inetd
 installed.  Now, inetd's init, installed from this package, depends on that
 executable, but there's no dependency to ensure that it gets installed.

dpkg -S `which rpcinfo`

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Re: X11 Clock for different time zones?

2000-11-09 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 06:00:32PM -0500, Michael A. Miller wrote:
 Does anyone know of a Debian application that will display the
 time and and a user specified time zone?

I've seen mention of a thing called swisswatch. It's supposedly highly
customizable, so maybe this is something it'll do.
 

-- 
#! /bin/sh
# ppp-address: What's my Internet Address for ppp0 ?
/sbin/ifconfig ppp0 2 /dev/null | grep 'inet addr:' | sed \
's=.*inet 
addr\:\([0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\).*=\1='



Re: file too large to delete

2000-11-09 Thread kmself
on Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 12:21:31AM -0500, Patrick Dahiroc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 05:59:36AM +0100, Florian Friesdorf wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 08:26:48PM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
   on Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 04:08:02AM +0100, Florian Friesdorf ([EMAIL 
   PROTECTED]) wrote:
Hi,

I have done something really stupid.
I wanted to test the 'record avi' funtion of xawtv and when I realized
that it was still recording, there was a 6GB file.
xawtv crashed and ls and rm are also crashing and the file is still
there.
   
   Posted here recently:
   
   $ cat /dev/null  mybigfile
   $ rm mybigfile
  
  Thanks for the fast reply.
  The file is gone.

 would cp mybigfile /dev/null work also?

Well, what happens when you try this:

$ dd if=/dev/zero of=foo bs=1024 count=1
$ ls -l foo
-rw-rw-r--1 karsten  karsten  1024 Nov  8 21:44 foo
$ cp foo /dev/null
$ ls -l foo
-rw-rw-r--1 karsten  karsten  1024 Nov  8 21:44 foo

This isn't ancient Greece.  We believe in the power of experiements and
scientific method.

No, copying a file to the null device doesn't remove the copy.
Moving a regular file to /dev/null will tend to produce various errors
when run as a nonprivileged user, and will clobber /dev/null when run as
root - don't do it.

What we're doing is first 'emptying' the file (catting /dev/null into
it), then removing a now-manageable, zero-byte file.

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Re: keyboard lock at boot

2000-11-09 Thread Moritz Schulte
JDK [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I ran lilo to write the new info to MBR.  Now whenever I reboot and
 get to the LILO prompt, the keyboard won't respond to any input from
 the keyboard.

I guess, you haven't set the `prompt' option in lilo.conf.

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Re: still no X

2000-11-09 Thread Brian Stults

On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 05:53:46PM -0500, Jacob I. Stowell wrote:


  Hi again,
 
  Today I moved /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 and I apt-get --reinstall all of
  the packages associated with X 4.0.1.  However, I still received the
  error cannot open fonts (the one I posted yesterday).  I was so hopeful
  when I updated this afternoon and all of the packages had been updated. 
  even after installing the NEW X packages, i still get the same error.  I

  am really confused.  I saw another post that talked about corrupted
  fonts, but I did not see a response to that either.
 



I think you're missing a package.  Try apt-get install 
task-x-window-system. 


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Re: file too large to delete

2000-11-09 Thread Damien
  would cp mybigfile /dev/null work also?
 
 This isn't ancient Greece.  We believe in the power of experiements and
 scientific method.
 

*grin* i couldn't agree more. perhaps one of the biggest steps you can take
towards becoming proficient at computing is learning to experiment.

i'm not sure what the original poster at the top of this message was thinking.
you're using cp, which is short for 'copy'. are you after two big files? :)

device files ARE files. they're a device when you read or write to them. but
they can be moved, copied over and renamed like normal files on the unix
subsystem.

an easy way to remember: devices are like a tardis. from the outside it's just
like any other phone box. it's only special when you look inside. you can fit
more in a tardis than you could a normal telephone box. but an elephant will
flatten both

(i think - i haven't seen dr who in a long, long time! ;)



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Re: Quick way to tell if online for use in cron script?

2000-11-09 Thread Willy Lee
Damian == Damian Menscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Willy Lee wrote:
 I wanted to run 'ntpdate' periodically via a cron script.  However,

 Given that you're trying to see if you can access xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
 how about using ping?  That will protect you in the case you're
 dialed up but the ntp server is unreachable for some reason, too.

Hm, I guess that will work for the cron script.  For some reason I
never thought of that.  As long as I use the '-c' option...

Hm, how do programs like 'gkrellm' monitor network status and packet
traffic?  I always assumed there was some easy way to do it.

=wl

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Trouble building Python 2.0 on Debian Potato

2000-11-09 Thread Steve Juranich
I'm trying to build 2.0 on my Debian box, but I'm having some trouble
getting Tkinter set up properly and I'm hoping somebody can clear up the
trouble I'm having.

First off, here's the message that I get from 'make' before it pukes:

gcc  -Xlinker -export-dynamic python.o \
  ../libpython2.0.a -ldb   -lreadline -ltermcap
-lBLT8.2 -L/usr/lib -ltk8.2 -ltcl8.2 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11-lncurses
-ltermcap   -lndbm  -L/usr/local/lib -lgdbm  -L/usr/local/lib -lz
-lpthread -ldl  -lutil -lm  -o python 
../libpython2.0.a(tkappinit.o): In function `Tcl_AppInit':
/usr/local/src/Python-2.0/Modules/./tkappinit.c:45: undefined reference to
`TkImaging_Init'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [link] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/Python-2.0/Modules'
make: *** [python] Error 2

So AFAIU, ld isn't finding the library where TkImaging_Init() is defined.
However, looking at the command line for gcc, everything meshes with where
stuff is actually living on my box.  Here's what the relevant part of my
Modules/Setup file says:

# *** Always uncomment this (leave the leading underscore in!):
_tkinter _tkinter.c tkappinit.c -DWITH_APPINIT \
# *** Uncomment and edit to reflect where your Tcl/Tk headers are:
#   -I/usr/local/include \
-I/usr/include \
# *** Uncomment and edit to reflect where your X11 header files are:
#   -I/usr/X11R6/include/X11 \
-I/usr/X11R6/include \
# *** Or uncomment this for Solaris:
#   -I/usr/openwin/include \
# *** Uncomment and edit for Tix extension only:
#   -DWITH_TIX -ltix4.1.8.0 \
# *** Uncomment and edit for BLT extension only:
#   -DWITH_BLT -I/usr/local/blt/blt8.0-unoff/include -lBLT8.0 \
-DWITH_BLT -I/usr/include -lBLT8.2 \
# *** Uncomment and edit for PIL (TkImaging) extension only:
#   -DWITH_PIL -I../Extensions/Imaging/libImaging  tkImaging.c \
# *** Uncomment and edit for TOGL extension only:
#   -DWITH_TOGL togl.c \
# *** Uncomment and edit to reflect where your Tcl/Tk libraries are:
-L/usr/lib \
# *** Uncomment and edit to reflect your Tcl/Tk versions:
-ltk8.2 -ltcl8.2 \
# *** Uncomment and edit to reflect where your X11 libraries are:
-L/usr/X11R6/lib \
# *** Or uncomment this for Solaris:
#   -L/usr/openwin/lib \
# *** Uncomment these for TOGL extension only:
#   -lGL -lGLU -lXext -lXmu \
# *** Uncomment for AIX:
#   -lld \
# *** Always uncomment this; X11 libraries to link with:
-lX11

Like I said, all of these are in agreement with my system's setup.  Has
anybody built this with a fairly basic version of Debian Potato?  Can you
tell me where I'm going wrong and what I need to do to fix it?

Thanks a lot.

Dinking-around-with-this-instead-of-doing-my-real-work-ly y'rs,

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Re: Quick way to tell if online for use in cron script?

2000-11-09 Thread Willy Lee
Wayne == Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 This may help

 [ cut here ] #!/bin/sh # Script to inform users that ppp is
 up # # Called from cron every 5 minutes

 if [ -e /var/run/ppp0.pid ]; then /usr/local/bin/play
 /usr/lib/sounds/pppisup.au fi

 [ cut here ]

Beauty, just what I needed, thanks.

=wl

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Re: inserting one postscript file into another

2000-11-09 Thread Shao Zhang
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Rogerio == Rogerio Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Rogerio On Nov 09 2000, Shao Zhang wrote:
  Could someone give me some hints? I looked the man page for
  psselect and psmerge and still cannot figure it out.
 
 Rogerio  Theoretically, it would be possible if psmerge worked
 Rogerio correctly (I unfortunately haven't got it to work as I'd
 Rogerio like).
 
 Rogerio  Anyway, to split the first file in two files with the
 Rogerio pages you'd like, you might try to use gv, select the
 Rogerio pages accordingly and then save them to different files.
 
 Rogerio  Then after that, you'd have three files and you'd use
 Rogerio psmerge to glue them together. But, as I've stated
 Rogerio before, I couldn't get it to work.
 
 It works OK for me...

Hi,
Thanks for the script. Unfortunately, psmerge does not work for me.
The two postscript files are very different. One is generated from a
sgml document and the other one is from latex using the {report}
class.

Really, I just want to make this sgml document part of the appendix
of the latex document. But I don't know how to convert sgml to
latex, then include it, so I tried to merge the two PS files, but
then I will loose all the pages numbers etc...

Regards,

Shao.
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sound in pysol fails

2000-11-09 Thread Russ Pitman
Reply-To

I have just upgraded pysol in woody and now sound fails and causes the
program to not exit properly. Exiting leaves a blank playing surface which
can only be removed by killing the pid's

Starting up from an xterm reveals this error

SDL: Audio timeout - buggy audio driver? (disabled)

Saytime works,as does Xcdplay so I think sound is working. lsmod gives

arjay:/usr/local# lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
sb 32960   1  (autoclean)
uart401 6128   1  (autoclean) [sb]
sound  56336   0  (autoclean) [sb uart401]
soundcore   2608   5  (autoclean) [sb sound]
parport_pc  7312   1  (autoclean)
lp  5232   0  (autoclean)
parport 7312   1  (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
vfat9056   1  (autoclean)
fat29312   1  (autoclean) [vfat]
arjay:/usr/local#

Does anyone know what the reference to SDL means, I cannot find any other
mention about it or in package listings

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setting up netenv??

2000-11-09 Thread Bruno Boettcher
hello,

i have installed netenv on my laptop, but this thing does not work
instead of copyiing the requested file to the /etc/netenv/netenv file,
it writes a file of size 0 

i have to copy by hand the requested files and restart the pcmcia system
to get it work.

So its me doing someting wrong or is this utility plain useless???


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inetd startup warns portmapper not running?

2000-11-09 Thread Neil Darlow
A long time ago, in a galaxy far... far away, Neil Darlow wrote:

 My potato system has started warning that portmapper isn't running
 during the execution of /etc/init.d/inetd at boot.

Further investigation shows that most of the time rpcinfo returns

  program 10 not available

This is odd as portmap is started in rcS.d and inetd later in rc2.d.

I have a solution which seems to work. In /etc/init.d/inetd, change
one line in checkportmap,

From: if ! /usr/bin/rpcinfo -u localhost portmapper /dev/null 
2/dev/null
  To: if ! ps ax | grep -v grep | grep portmap /dev/null

While this doesn't test that portmap is alive-and-kicking it at least
indicates that it was started.

I hope this is of use to anyone experiencing similar problems on their
systems. Perhaps the developers may come up with a better solution.

Regards,
Neil Darlow.



RE: inetd startup warns portmapper not running?

2000-11-09 Thread Marc Wilson
Explain to me again how dpkg is going to tell me what package a binary
that's not installed on the system is part of, eh?

I KNOW what it's part of.  It's part of netkit-rpc.  WHY doesn't
netkit-inetd depend on that?

-
Marc Wilson
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From:   Wayne Topa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:15 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:Re: inetd startup warns portmapper not running?


Subject: RE: inetd startup warns portmapper not running?
Date: Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 06:52:11PM -0800

In reply to:Marc Wilson

Quoting Marc Wilson([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Here's a question for you... which package owns /usr/bin/rcpinfo on your
 box?  A Woody install of mine doesn't have it, despite having netkit-inetd
 installed.  Now, inetd's init, installed from this package, depends on
that
 executable, but there's no dependency to ensure that it gets installed.

dpkg -S `which rpcinfo`

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Re: Q: Potato Gimp1.1 $HOME directory options?

2000-11-09 Thread Damon Muller
Quoth Jonathan Gift, 
 I'm just trying out the gimp1.1 loaded on Debian 2.2 and although I changed
 the Preferences directories to .gimp it still kicks up a fuss when there
 is no .gimp1.1 directory. Is there any other way of getting it to accept
 .gimp? I know this is an unfinsihed released, but...

ln -s .gimp .gimp1.1

Not what you're asking, but will probably give you the effect you are
after.

cheers,

damon

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Re: Installing kernel sources on alternative partition problem

2000-11-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On 8 Nov 2000, Hubert Chan wrote:

Kieren Diment [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi there,

 I have a slightly obscure problem recompiling my potato
 kernel-source-2.2.17 on a P100 laptop.

 I have a disk space problem and therefore tried to unpack the kernel
 sources on my other partition, which is a now redundant vfat partition
 that had win 95 on it.

 When I extract the tarball, I get the following error message:

 tar: kernel-source-2.2.17/include/asm: Cannot create symlink to asm-i386':
 Operation not permitted
 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

Hmm. Does vfat even support symlinks?  That may be the problem.  If you don't

No it does not. AFAIK, the Linux kernel needs a UNIX file system to
compile.




Re: script help

2000-11-09 Thread Erik Steffl
  man find

erik

Chris Mason wrote:
 
 I need to come up with a bash shell script that deletes all the files in a
 folder older than N days. I'm not sure how to test for file age so I can't
 get it done myself, can someone suggest a way?
 
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Kernel-Module for Intel Ether Express PRO/10 (ISA) Card

2000-11-09 Thread Walther, Christoph
Dear community,

do you know, to compile a kernel with 

make menuconfig

for modularized support of  the Intel Ether Express PRO/10 (ISA)Card?

In the directory /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/drivers/net you'll find
eepro.c
eepro100.c
eexpress.c
as C program textfiles, but I can't see there an relation between
the menupoint  Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) - EtherExpressPro/100 support
of make menuconfig!
Is this -single- choice able to support _all_ types of Intel-Ethernet Cards ?? 
After compilation of an adapted -successfully 2 processors (Intel Pentium I, 
133Mcs)
supporting- kernel, my ether-card will not be recognized during booting up.
By the way, exactly this ether-card works with the generic kernel, which was 
installed
at the initial Debian 2.2 installation!

Has somebody an idea, which menuüoint in make menuconfig should be choiced
or how to do correctly otherwise?

Many thanks,

Christoph Walther

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Re: X11 Clock for different time zones?

2000-11-09 Thread Martin J . Hillyer
On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 06:00:32PM -0500, Michael A. Miller wrote:
 Does anyone know of a Debian application that will display the
 time and and a user specified time zone?
 

Not sure if this is what you want, but you can show any the time in any
timezone using, eg, xclock.  I have family in Perth, Oz (I live in
US/Pacific TZ), and have a line something like the following in my
.xinitrc:

TZ='Australia/Perth' xclock -title Perth -name Perth -update 1 

Not mine; I got the idea from a post to this list which has long since
disappeared from my archives.  This is a great resource!

HTH  HAND

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Problem with kernel modules

2000-11-09 Thread Aeschlimann Marc
Hello,
I come from Switzerland so my engish isn't fluent.
I compiled my new kernel (2.2.17) with kernel-package. After that I tried the 
command depmod, the result was :
Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/xxx/xxx.o
What is the problem ?
Best regards.

Marc Aeschlimann
Student at EICN
Switzerlenad



Re: netscape problem (solved)

2000-11-09 Thread Gnanasekaran Thoppae
Hi Mike,

Yes, that was the problem. I was running on 24bit color. I changed
to 16bit.

Thanks.

-gnana


Quoting Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Gnanasekaran Thoppae wrote:
  hi list,
  
  i installed potato on my new machine and apt-get installed 
  netscape 4.75 but the toolbars and icons are greyed out. 
  i could not see the colored icons. But the browser works fine.
  I could see sites in full color. I have ATI Rage Pro card with
  32MB. What could be the problem?
  
  Is it something to do with colormap?
 
 You are almost certainly running X at 24 bit color.  This is a known bug
 with Netscape.  Change your color depth to either 32 bit or 16 bit, and the
 icons should come back to color.
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mp3 ID Editor?

2000-11-09 Thread Manegold
Hi All!

Does anyone know, how I can edit the ID tag of an mp3 file?

TIA
Thorsten



Re: mp3 ID Editor?

2000-11-09 Thread Mike Quin
 Manegold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does anyone know, how I can edit the ID tag of an mp3 file?

apt-get install id3ed

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Re: mp3 ID Editor?

2000-11-09 Thread Erik Steffl
  apt-get install easytag

  there are others...

erik

Manegold wrote:
 
 Hi All!
 
 Does anyone know, how I can edit the ID tag of an mp3 file?
 
 TIA
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Re: still no X

2000-11-09 Thread Ewing, Jeff

I had a similiar problem. I noticed that the mkfontdir command was
missing. I installed xutils (and xfs) then ran 
mkfontdir  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
and my X came back.

On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 05:53:46PM -0500, Jacob I. Stowell wrote:
 Hi again,
 
 Today I moved /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 and I apt-get --reinstall all of
 the packages associated with X 4.0.1.  However, I still received the
 error cannot open fonts (the one I posted yesterday).  I was so hopeful

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Re: (sans sujet)

2000-11-09 Thread Joerg Johannes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

 i will become a debian user but i'm new in this way and i just want to solve
 a problem:

 i have 20 Go hard drive..debian ask to boot 40 Mo for BIOS deficient
  ask me for a 128 Mo primary
 partition (swap )
  and the rest for utilisation.

 i seems to be ok but i've got windows 98 (hmm) and i just want to use both..
 what can i do to boot between w98 and debian..does a partition can be used by
 the both..

 excuse for my english , i'm french ..thank's a lot   °.-)

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I did the following:

Partition 1 (4Go) -- Win'98
Partition 2 (8Mo) -- Linux /boot
Partition 3 (8 Go) -- Linux /
Partition 4 (200 Mo) -- Linux swap

I used the small /boot partition to be sure that lilo can boot from there (under
cylinder 1024). I partitioned the hard disk with linux fdisk, then installed 
Win'98
and afterwards Linux. The Problem with installing Linux first and Win'98 
afterwards
is, that Win overwrites the mbr and you can only boot linux with a boot-floppy. 
So
what you have to do is installing  Win'98 first (did I say that before ;-)?) and
after installing linux, edit /etc/lilo.conf and add an entry
other=/dev/hda1
label=win
and run lilo. this will let you choose between linux and windows at boot time.

Hope this helps

joerg

PS.: I would have translated it to french, but I have to write on a german 
keyboard,
so: pas, accents, pas de cedilles, etc. Ce n'est pas tres joli coome ca, 
n'est-ce
pas?



Re: adaptec 1505 / potato

2000-11-09 Thread Dominique Rousset
I finally succeded in installing the board. Its more a setup problem than a 
typically debian quaestion.

1) in the bios setup
I left all the interrupts as PnP execpt #10 which is configured on the board 
(11 is the default but there was an IRQ conflict with the graphics adapter 
under win). #10 is reserved for legacy ISA boards in the manual bios setup.

2) All aha152x options at boot time, in lilo.conf or modules.conf fail. I have 
to use  insmod aha152x aha152x=0x340,10. I think that it is the only way to 
skip the adapter bios probe, madatory since this dumb card doens't have one. 
Probably for the same reason, modprobe fails.

Now, I have a question regarding debian boot process :

where is the right place to insmod the module ?
I can write a simple script with the insmod line and put it in /etc/init.d. Ok 
?
Then I have to make a link from directories for the run-level I want the 
scanner to be usable by everyone. Which run-level is it ? What must be the 
name of this link ?

thanks.



dpkg-buildpackage and desired target and changed config files in the build directory

2000-11-09 Thread Michael Meding
Hello everybody,

I am trying to find out where to change the environment variables to get
the package build for a specific target (i.e. instead of i386 i686).
Also I would like to know how to change something in a configuration
file in the build directory and then get the build done with the changed
configuration file (because dpkg-buildpackage wipes out my build tree
everytime it runs).


Thanks in advance for any help.


With best regards


Michael Meding



Re: Can't login via xdm

2000-11-09 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
Karl Philipp wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I updated several packages regarding to X Windows, enlightenment
 and GNOME.
 
 Now, I can't login via xdm.
 
 You can read in the file ~/.xsession-errors
 
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
 xrdb: Can't open display ':0'
 ...
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
 xmodmap:  unable to open display ':0'
 /usr/bin/X11/gnome: usr/bin/X11/enlightenment: No such file or directory
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
 
 Any hint?
 
 greetings
 
   Karl
 
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Hi,

try to add 

DisplayManager._0.authName: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1

to /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config.

I had a similar problem some months ago, and IIRC, i solved it this way.

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Re: keyboard lock at boot

2000-11-09 Thread JD Kitch
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 08:01:01AM +0100, Moritz Schulte wrote:
 
 I guess, you haven't set the `prompt' option in lilo.conf.
 
Your right.  I had only set delay, and forgot prompt.

Thank you,
jdk



Re: Problem with kernel modules

2000-11-09 Thread Moritz Schulte
Aeschlimann Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I compiled my new kernel (2.2.17) with kernel-package. After that I
 tried the command depmod, the result was : Unresolved symbols in
 /lib/modules/2.2.17/xxx/xxx.o What is the problem ?

Did you have modules lying around in /lib/modules/2.2.17 before you
installed your new 2.2.17 kernel image? If so, try booting a
non-2.2.17 kernel, remove /lib/modules/2.2.17 completely and reinstall
the 2.2.17 kernel image.

moritz
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Unable to switch to tty5

2000-11-09 Thread Frederik Vanrenterghem
Hi,

Since I've spent some time lately in console mode due to some problems
with X, I've noticed something strange: I cannot switch to tty5.
I can switch to tty1 to 4, and 6 (7 when in X), but not 5.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps aux|grep tty5
root   298  0.0  0.1  1180  480 tty5 SNov07   0:00 /sbin/getty
38400 tty5

Is this normal behaviour?

TIA,

Frederik

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Dual NICs, no forwarding

2000-11-09 Thread Craig Coles

Got a question for the group.

I've heard at work that I am going to be asked to add a network card in our 
web server so that our private network (10.1.0.0) can share resources on the 
web server.  The web server will not be allowed to forward any traffic by 
default.  This is being done by another box.  Setting up this box for a new 
NIC is not an issue, but had an application related issue:


Is it possible for an application running on this box, the web server, to 
access both networks (private net and internet)?  Is there anything special 
that needs to be done to do so?  Specifically, the application in question 
will be a bridge between the internet and the private net and will primarily 
be responding to requests from the internet side, then make connections to 
servers on the private net side.  I guess almost like a proxy server, except 
no forwarding by default.


Is there anything special that needs to be done in the server configuration, 
or is this really a none issue?



Thanks for your time,


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Re: Unable to switch to tty5

2000-11-09 Thread halfdan
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 02:05:54PM +0100, Frederik Vanrenterghem wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Since I've spent some time lately in console mode due to some problems
 with X, I've noticed something strange: I cannot switch to tty5.
 I can switch to tty1 to 4, and 6 (7 when in X), but not 5.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps aux|grep tty5
 root   298  0.0  0.1  1180  480 tty5 SNov07   0:00 /sbin/getty
 38400 tty5
 
 Is this normal behaviour?
I don't think so, have you tried killing the process, maybe with the -9 signal, 
it respawns automaitcally if killed.
 
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Re: Unable to switch to tty5

2000-11-09 Thread Frederik Vanrenterghem
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  with X, I've noticed something strange: I cannot switch to tty5.
  I can switch to tty1 to 4, and 6 (7 when in X), but not 5.
  
  Is this normal behaviour?
 I don't think so, have you tried killing the process, maybe with the -9 
 signal, it respawns automaitcally if killed.

Indeed, still not able to change to tty5, pid changed but that's
all... (btw, this happens directly after reboot, so it's not some left
over process or anything I believe)

-- 

Success covers a multitude of blunders.
-- George Bernard Shaw



Re: w3m wouldn't load http://localhost

2000-11-09 Thread Johann Spies
On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 07:55:52PM +, Paul Sims wrote:

 have you defined a global http proxy (squid or wwwoffle, for instance) - I
 have had some funnies with this. Check the result of export.

No I have never installed squid and do not find any reference to
wwwoffle (which I also removed from my system) or to a proxy in the
output of export.

Thanks anyway.  I did not know about export.  I have learnt
something.

Johann
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 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is 
  thy victory? 1 Corinthians 15:55 



Re: Unable to switch to tty5

2000-11-09 Thread Martin Fluch
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Frederik Vanrenterghem wrote:

 Indeed, still not able to change to tty5, pid changed but that's
 all... (btw, this happens directly after reboot, so it's not some left
 over process or anything I believe)

Any problems with the F5 key? Seems like a silly question, but I've once
problems with logging in due to a key not working on my keyboard.

Can you switch to tty5 with ALT-LEFT or ALT-RIGHT?

Martin

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Re: Unable to switch to tty5

2000-11-09 Thread Frederik Vanrenterghem
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Martin Fluch wrote:

 
 Any problems with the F5 key? Seems like a silly question, but I've once
 problems with logging in due to a key not working on my keyboard.
 
 Can you switch to tty5 with ALT-LEFT or ALT-RIGHT?
 

This is indeed possible! Very strange, so my F5 key probably is bound to
something else. Is there a way for me to check this?

Thanks!
-- 

All intelligent species own cats.



Re: Problem with kernel modules

2000-11-09 Thread Aeschlimann Marc
Aeschlimann Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

 I compiled my new kernel (2.2.17) with kernel-package. After that I 
 tried the command depmod, the result was : Unresolved symbols in 
 /lib/modules/2.2.17/xxx/xxx.o What is the problem ? 

Did you have modules lying around in /lib/modules/2.2.17 before you 
installed your new 2.2.17 kernel image? If so, try booting a 
non-2.2.17 kernel, remove /lib/modules/2.2.17 completely and reinstall 
the 2.2.17 kernel image. 

moritz 
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Just before installing the kernel image,I execute the commad mv 
/lib/modules/2.2.17 /lib/modules/2.2.17.save (like it is written in the 
documentation). But unfortunately, the problem subsists.




Re: Unable to switch to tty5

2000-11-09 Thread Martin Fluch
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Frederik Vanrenterghem wrote:

 This is indeed possible! Very strange, so my F5 key probably is bound to
 something else. Is there a way for me to check this?

I just did the following:

login on some tty, e.g. tty2, and then
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ hexdump /dev/tty2

Then I pressed F1 to F12 and afterwards enter. That was the output:

^[[[A^[[[B^[[[C^[[[D^[[[E^[[17~^[[18~^[[19~^[[20~^[[21~^[[23~^[[24~
%07.7_ 5b1b 415b 5b1b 425b 5b1b 435b 5b1b 445b
%07.7_ 5b1b 455b 5b1b 3731 1b7e 315b 7e38 5b1b
%07.7_ 3931 1b7e 325b 7e30 5b1b 3132 1b7e 325b

The ^[[[E is the F5 key.

But I guess, there are better ways to test, if the key is working...

Martin

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Re: Q: Compiled kernel ok-Rename it etiquette?

2000-11-09 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 09:45:08PM +0100, Jonathan Gift wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've just successfully compiled my kernel and if you actually read
 instructions and have the right tools it's a strong feeling of satisfaction.
 My question is what to do with the bzImage file or kernel. I moved it to
 boot as it is and ran a link to it and that listed in lilo. But what's the
 etiquette?
 
 1. Move kernel to boot as I did?
 2. Rename it? If it was potato's own 2.2.17 then what?

use kernel-package to make alot of this much simpler, though if you
compile a 2.2.17 it will overwrite debian's, one way to work around
this is to add something to the EXTRAVERSION field in the kernel
Makefile.  that way you get vmlinux-2.2.17-foo with modules going in
/lib/modules/2.2.17-foo.  

 3. How do I get the new one of the boot floppy and should I?

dd if=/boot/vmlinux-2.2.17-foo of=/dev/fd0 bs=512

though i have had this not work (the system just puking trying to
boot the floppy)

 Thanks a lot.
 
 Jonathan
 
 PS The boot msg screen now gives me:
 You most certainly don't want to be running kerneld with
 =2.2.X kernels.
 Read .../kmod.txt.
 
 I've read the doc and it says its' better to use kmod. Is kerneld in
 fact running? Do I have to recompile again?

did you disable loadable kernel modules? or CONFIG_KMOD ?  if you
disable loadable modules debians kerneld initscript thinks your
running a 2.0 kernel and trys to run kerneld.  i don't know why it
does not do something with uname, instead it checks for a file in
/proc (which is missing when you don't support modules, annoying)

-- 
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Re: Unable to switch to tty5

2000-11-09 Thread Frederik Vanrenterghem
 The ^[[[E is the F5 key.
Same here. Strange, isn't it.
No big deal however, I can work with alt-left or right, it's an easy
combination :-)

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Re: Archive/kernel problems

2000-11-09 Thread Kaleb Daark
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Carel Fellinger wrote:
 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 07:34:18 +1100
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 From: Carel Fellinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Archive/kernel problems
 
 On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 12:13:43AM +1100, Kaleb Daark wrote:
  After downloading kernel-source-2.2.17_2.2.17pre6-1.deb (for the third
 
 For the time being you can try to download the real 2.2.17, or if you're
 stuck with this pre6 thing try to download it from the source archives.
 For me it seemed to work.
 
 Just wait a sec, I've a fast internet connection waiting to be used:)
 And yes downloading from ftp.de.debian.org works!  So point your apt
 to this one and you'll get the correct one.
 

I have now downloaded both kernel-source-2.2.17_2.2.17pre6-1.deb and 
kernel-source-2.2.15_2.2.15-3.deb, first from ftp.de.debian.org,
ftp.au.debian.org, and ftp.debian.org which seemed to go OK, dpkg even
installed them with no errors, but when unpacking I received:
.. files in archive ...
kernel-source-2.2.15/drivers/net/sktr.c
kernel-source-2.2.15/drivers/net/sktr.h
tar: Skipping to next file header

bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing.
Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
 full error message 
tar: Archive kernel-source-2.2.15.tar.bz2 EOF not on block boundary
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
Each of the archives fails at when unpacking a different file.

I can't see how there could be two corrupted archives, with two different
versions of the package, on the three different servers I have tried. 
So I downloaded, from ftp.aarnet.lkams.kernel.org linux-2.2.17.tar.bz2, and
linux-2.2.17.tar.gz, (no small task over a 56k link), and when I check the
archive I get: 
/usr/src/$ gzip -dv linux-2.2.17.tar.gz 
linux-2.2.17.tar.gz:
gzip: linux-2.2.17.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--crc error
This leads me to believe that the problem is at my end, but I am at a loss
to find the cause, or for that matter, where to look for more info



Re: Trouble building Python 2.0 on Debian Potato

2000-11-09 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 11:31:19PM -0800, Steve Juranich wrote:
 I'm trying to build 2.0 on my Debian box, but I'm having some trouble
 getting Tkinter set up properly and I'm hoping somebody can clear up the
 trouble I'm having.

I didn't have any problems, but then I didn't include all things.
...
 -I/usr/include \

I've this one commented out

 -DWITH_BLT -I/usr/include -lBLT8.2 \

I've this one commented out too

 Like I said, all of these are in agreement with my system's setup.  Has
 anybody built this with a fairly basic version of Debian Potato?  Can you

I've applied all security fixes and most updates, but didn't mingle any woody.

 tell me where I'm going wrong and what I need to do to fix it?

dunno, but I'm willing to do some recompiling just to check...

...I'm back, recompiled with your specs, no problemo
So what else differs?

-- 
groetjes, carel



Re: Archive/kernel problems

2000-11-09 Thread Robert Guthrie
Have you tried unmounting that partition and e2fsck-ing it?  If it's your 
root partition, you might be able to accomplish that in single-user mode.

-- 
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will hear the voice of Satan?

That's nothing!  If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.



Re: Linuxconfig opinions

2000-11-09 Thread Robert Guthrie
On Wednesday 08 November 2000 18:12, Mike wrote:

  Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote:
  Other than that, is linuxconfig a 'good thing', or does it have security
  problems associated with it that one ought to know about?

 Are you referring to linuxconf?  If so, I've nothing good to say about it.
 I once made the mistake of trying linuxconf.  I then needed a day and a
 half to fix my system back to a usable state, and another three days
 (roughly) to find everything alse that got completely buggered.


My wife swears by it.  While it was still under heavy development, linuxconf 
was a major piece of donkey-dung.  But now it seems to work just great.

For a newbie, I'd suggest starting with it, and learning how to use the 
find command to search through /etc for the files that linuxconf has 
changed.  That way, you can make something work right away, but you also 
learn what files have to be changed to add a DNS server, configure your 
modem, add a group to the system, etc...

It can be a real crutch though, so try to avoid it if you can do without it; 
you never know when ncurses will break on you.


-- 
Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you 
will hear the voice of Satan?

That's nothing!  If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.



Re: signing gpg key with old key ...

2000-11-09 Thread Jorgensen, Jens
The tools people use for sending you stuff should tell them that the key is 
expired. That should encourage them not to use it. If you revoke your old key 
that certainly invalidates the signature. Technically you can't change the 
expire date. I mean there's nothing to stop the software from changing the date 
and regenerating the signature but the server *should* recognize this and 
reject such a change since the old signature includes the expiration date.

Adam Shand wrote:

  how do i sign my new public key with my old private key?

 okay sorry to follow up my own message but i just figured it out.
 sometimes it seems that i have to write down (or explain it to someone
 else) in order to figure it out.

 if you need to do this it seems impossible from with in the --edit-key
 menu you need to do it on the command line like this:

 # gpg -u old-key-id --sign-key new-key-id

 so now my next question is.  my old key id is expired but i've used it to
 sign my new key.  i don't want people to use my old key.

 should i revoke my old key or will that illegitimize it's signature on my
 new key?

 should i move the expire date on my old key (and update the keys server)?
 if i do that how do i stop people from using it?

 thanks,
 adam.

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Re: Archive/kernel problems

2000-11-09 Thread Kaleb Daark
Yes, tried that only a couple of days ago, I have experienced the problem,
both before and after the check.

On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Robert Guthrie wrote:
 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 02:18:20 +1100
 To: Kaleb Daark [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org
 From: Robert Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Archive/kernel problems
 
 Have you tried unmounting that partition and e2fsck-ing it?  If it's your
 
 root partition, you might be able to accomplish that in single-user mode.
 
 -- 
 Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you 
 will hear the voice of Satan?
 
 That's nothing!  If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
 



Re: Kernel-Module for Intel Ether Express PRO/10 (ISA) Card

2000-11-09 Thread Bob Nielsen
Would this (under Other ISA cards) be what you are looking for?

  EtherExpressPro/EtherExpress 10 (i82595) support (NEW)

cheers,

Bob

On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 09:47:52AM +0100, Walther, Christoph wrote:
 Dear community,
 
 do you know, to compile a kernel with 
 
 make menuconfig
 
 for modularized support of  the Intel Ether Express PRO/10 (ISA)Card?
 
 In the directory /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/drivers/net you'll find
 eepro.c
 eepro100.c
 eexpress.c
 as C program textfiles, but I can't see there an relation between
 the menupoint  Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) - EtherExpressPro/100 support
 of make menuconfig!
 Is this -single- choice able to support _all_ types of Intel-Ethernet Cards 
 ?? 
 After compilation of an adapted -successfully 2 processors (Intel Pentium I, 
 133Mcs)
 supporting- kernel, my ether-card will not be recognized during booting up.
 By the way, exactly this ether-card works with the generic kernel, which was 
 installed
 at the initial Debian 2.2 installation!
 
 Has somebody an idea, which menuüoint in make menuconfig should be choiced
 or how to do correctly otherwise?

-- 
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Re: subnets 2 NICS in a mashine

2000-11-09 Thread Robert Guthrie
On Wednesday 08 November 2000 23:21, John wrote:

 As far as i know you will have to use 2 subnets and if you want the
 192.168.0.xxx range to be able to talk
 to the 192.168.1.xxx range you will need to do ipforwarding between the 2.


I agree with this assessment.  


 robert_wilhelm_land wrote:
  Would someone kindly help me in understanding why I cannot configure
  two ethernet cards using the same subnet but different IP's on one
  mashine?
 
  In this case I would like to setup a linux server for a smb-win32 and
  a nfs-nfs connection (in all 3 mashines)
 
  Any short comment is appreciated
 
  Robert

Now, I'm not quite sure what your setup is here, so let see if your setup is 
the same as mine...

1 linux box, serving NFS and SMB to 2 desktops that dual-boot linux and 
windows 98.

Under linux, I mount (among other things), /home over nfs, so that when I log 
in to any linux computer, I have the same files available.

Under windows, I map a drive letter (H:) to an SMB share of my home 
directory, accomplishing roughly the same thing.

I do this all on one network.  I use another machine (on the same network) as 
a router/gateway/firewall to my dial-up account.

Now, are you serving 3 computers with your nfs/smb linux box in roughly the 
same way as I am?  Is there some reason you want to use two different NICs?

-- 
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will hear the voice of Satan?

That's nothing!  If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.



Re: inetd startup warns portmapper not running?

2000-11-09 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: RE: inetd startup warns portmapper not running?
Date: Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 12:18:41AM -0800

In reply to:Marc Wilson

Quoting Marc Wilson([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Explain to me again how dpkg is going to tell me what package a binary
 that's not installed on the system is part of, eh?
 
 I KNOW what it's part of.  It's part of netkit-rpc.  WHY doesn't
 netkit-inetd depend on that?
 

I tried to help by showing where it was coming from on 'my' system.

dpkg -S `which rpcinfo`

but I forgot the result :-(  sorry
netbase: /usr/bin/rpcinfo

Now, as to Why doesn't netkit-inetd depend on that you will have to 
ask the maintainer, that question.
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 If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs,
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Re: sound

2000-11-09 Thread Robert Guthrie
Are you a member of the group audio?  If not, you won't have access to the 
dsp device, though I don't know if this is needed for playing audio cd's.

On Wednesday 08 November 2000 19:16, Joseph Holland King wrote:
 since i have installed debian i have been without sound. my cdrom can read
 cd's when loaded so i know that is working. and i can use tcd to play a
 cd, however i get no sound. when i was using redhat i had at least cd
 output without having my soundcard supported. what can i do to get sound,
 even if it is just cd output directly. thanx


-- 
Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you 
will hear the voice of Satan?

That's nothing!  If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.



Re: dpkg-buildpackage and desired target and changed config files in the build directory

2000-11-09 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Michael Meding wrote:

 Hello everybody,
 

Before I begin, I want to mention that there is mailing list specifically
for newbie packagers called debian-mentors@lists.debian.org .  You should
ask this kind of question there.

 I am trying to find out where to change the environment variables to get
 the package build for a specific target (i.e. instead of i386 i686).

In the debian subdirecotry of a package there will be a file called
rules.  It is a Makefile so you can define anything you want using
standard make(1) syntax.  What exactly you have to change will depend on
the program.  If it uses autoconf(1), it may be as simple as adding
--target=i686 or something to the call to configure in debian/rules.  

 Also I would like to know how to change something in a configuration
 file in the build directory and then get the build done with the changed
 configuration file (because dpkg-buildpackage wipes out my build tree
 everytime it runs).

debian/rules has a number of targets, dpkg-buildpackage automatically
calls the clean target.  However you can also do something like e.g.

$ fakeroot debian/rules binary

to bypass clean and go directly to the binary target.  This is also handy
so you don't have to start all over again if your compile craps out part
of the way through.

-- 
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SysAdmin list and question ..

2000-11-09 Thread Dave
1.  Is there a list available for system admin type questions? Didn't
see it listed.

2.  My debian box has several scsi disks on it, and if one is turned off
at boot time, the machine mounts the wrong disks on the defined
filesystems, even though they are listed correctly in /etc/fstab. Is
there a way to force the machine to mount a given disk on a given
filesystem?  Thanks!

Dave Felt [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Debian package that contains Expect.pm

2000-11-09 Thread Manuel Segura
Hello,
I am searching the Debian package that contains the Perl module
Expect.pm

I work on Debian Potato

Could some one say me where can I find it ?

Thank you very much
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Re: SysAdmin list and question ..

2000-11-09 Thread Alberto Brealey
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 08:53:26AM -0800, Dave wrote:

 2.  My debian box has several scsi disks on it, and if one is turned off
 at boot time, the machine mounts the wrong disks on the defined
 filesystems, even though they are listed correctly in /etc/fstab. Is

this is a problem with the way the linux kernel handles device name
allocation (is this the way to say it?). the thing is, /dev/sda is going to
be the _first_ scsi disc on your system (the first one your kernel
recognises), so if you turn on your machine with a only a disc with an id of
5 in the second controller, it will be /dev/sda.
but if you hook up another disc with id 2 on the first controller, this new
disc will become /dev/sda, nad the previously-know-as-/dev/sda wil become
/dev/sdb. so: if you add or remove discs, every hd that has an scsi id
higher that the one on the changed device will change its /dev/sdax place.

i believe solaris does not have this problem, since it handles discs like
/dev/scsi-bus-id/scsi-id or some variation...

 there a way to force the machine to mount a given disk on a given
 filesystem?  Thanks!

not on linux, i don't think so.

hope this helps,

Alberto.



Re: xsession, bash_profile and xdm

2000-11-09 Thread Thomas Halahan

I have tried

#!/bin/bash --login

and

#!/bin/bash -login 

in .xsession and neither works.

I have also tried just /bin/bash --login in the saem file to no 
avail?

I don't know why.

Tom


On 07 11:45 pm, Ethan Benson wrote:

  On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 10:58:52AM -0600, Denis Kosygin wrote:
  Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 02:53:59PM +, Thomas Halahan wrote:
I tried to put
   
 #! /bin/bash --login
   
as the header to my ~/.xsessions file but this did not work. 
should=20 this behave differently to the /etc/X11/Xsession
global config?
  
   im not sure that trick works in the ~/.xsession, i don't really
   see why not, but it could. =20
 
  You need `#! /bin/bash -login' not `#! /bin/bash --login' (see
  the bash documentation).

 i did:

--login
   Make bash act as if it had been invoked as a  login
   shell (see INVOCATION below).

 bash 2 uses --login, bash 1 used -login.


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Re: info su installazione di Debian

2000-11-09 Thread GYULAI Mihaly
Pietro Greco írta, 2000-11-07, 17:27-kor kelt levelében, ami 8 sorból állt:

 potrei ricevere possibilmente in italiano le isrtuzzioni per l'
 installazione di debian poichč ho grossi problemi
 grazie e arrivederci

Scusa, non parlo italiano.  

Andare  http://www.debian.org/ , http://www.debian.org/index.it.html

Buona fortuna! :)

Sono ungherese.
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System retired...



apt-get install - but I don't want other packages

2000-11-09 Thread GYULAI Mihaly
I tried to use an 'apt-get install netstd' command, but received
many error messages about other packages that were selected before,
with 'dselect'. (these packages are mainly Python-related).

The error messages are about unconfigured packages.

Questions:
1. How can I avoid these unconfigured packages if I want to install
  just another program?

2. How can I configure those unconfigured packages?

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Re: mutt

2000-11-09 Thread Gyulai Mihaly
John-Mark írta, 2000-11-08, 00:21-kor kelt levelében, ami 35 sorból állt:

 I have just installed mutt on my system but can't see how to
 configure it any help much appreciated

Did you install mutt from a .deb package or from source?

I installed it from source, as it's much newer (1.2.5) then the
.deb package (in 'potato' it was 0.95). The source is available at
http://www.mutt.org/

Under mutt source dir, there is a /doc/manual.txt, which gives you
every details on how to configure mutt. It's quite big, 220 kB text!

I suppose that a similar 'manual.txt' should exist if you installed
mutt from a .deb package. Search for 'manual.txt'.

There should be an example '.muttrc' file, what you can transform to
your personal preferences. The '.muttrc' file gives you a minimal
info (as everything is in the manual.txt), but you can guess many
adjustable parameters just from reading the example '.muttrc' file.
(it's 13 kB in my case). 

If you never used a similar mail program, maybe You should create a
file as  /var/spool/mail/$USER  (with you as owner of the file).

If you have basic questions, you can mail me directly, I try to help.

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Search for alternatives!



Masquerading -- Am I missing something?

2000-11-09 Thread Michael Patterson

Ok, I recently got a Maxtor 80Gb HD, so I figured I'd start with a fresh
install of Potato on my system. My problem is that I can't seem to get a
kernel that gives me both IP Masquerading and support for the drive.

Now, on the kernels that the Masquerading fails on, it isn't a total
failure.
Basic masquerading works fine, but when I try to use, say, Asheron's Call
or MusicMatch station selector on one of the machines on my subnet, it
fails (I can, however, do simple functions like read Debian's webpage).

In all attempts, running /etc/init.d/ipmasq start resulted in no errors.

This was a symptom I was seeing when using 2.0.* kernels, so I assumed that
the current kernel I was working with was a bad version. Here's a history
of my attempts after making that assumption:

2.2.12: Masquerading works fine, Drive gives strange errors
2.2.15: Masquerading doesn't work, Drive works fine
2.2.17: Same as .15
2.4.0-test5: Won't boot. Out of Memory error while decompressing.

So, my question basically is-- is there a kernel that works? Or is there
some obscure kernel option that I'm not including that I need to include?
(to the best of my knowledge, there are no significant differences between
the config options for the different kernels.)

Any help would be appreiciated,
Mike



Re: apt-get install - but I don't want other packages

2000-11-09 Thread David Z. Maze
GYULAI Mihaly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
GM I tried to use an 'apt-get install netstd' command, but received
GM many error messages about other packages that were selected before,
GM with 'dselect'. (these packages are mainly Python-related).
GM 
GM The error messages are about unconfigured packages.
GM 
GM Questions:
GM 1. How can I avoid these unconfigured packages if I want to install
GM   just another program?

APT insists on having a consistent world view.  'apt-get install -f'
will try to repair the world to match APT's sense of correctness.  You 
can also skip APT, download packages yourself, and install them using
dpkg directly.

GM 2. How can I configure those unconfigured packages?

'dpkg --configure packagename' or 'dpkg --configure --pending'
should do the trick, as would the [C]onfigure option from dselect.

-- 
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Theoretical politics is interesting.  Politicking should be illegal.
-- Abra Mitchell



XFree86 4.0.1: Strange ssh behaviour

2000-11-09 Thread Dominik Bodi
Hi,

I am using debian woody. After upgrading XFree86 to 4.0.1 I discovered strange 
behaviour of ssh's X-Forwarding:

Scenario 1:
I ssh to another debian woody box (XFree86 4.01 as well) on my local network. 
Then I try to run a x-app (wish/wishx in my case, but any app will do). The 
program seems to hang, even ctrl-c does not work anymore, and I do not get any 
output.

Scenario 2:
I ssh to a SuSe box with Xfree86 3.3.6 installed, running
an x-app there works without problems.

Scenario 3:
I telnet to my debian box mentioned in Sc. 1. I set the DISPLAY envvar 
accordingly (export DISPLAY=machinefromwhereitelnetfrom:0) and everything 
works fine?

On all three boxes X-Forwarding is enabled for both the ssh-client and the 
server, with display offset set to 10 (the default). Everything worked fine 
until the upgrade to XFree86 4.0.1 (Or maybe there was an openssh upgrade I 
don't remember anymore). It seems that ssh and/or the new XFree86 is at fault, 
but I don't know how to isolate the error.

Advice is urgently requested.

Dominik Bodi
Muenchen, Germany
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Re: Q: Sound in/Alsaconf done: Linux 1 Human 0

2000-11-09 Thread dirk
On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 09:47:44PM +0100, Jonathan Gift wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Well, I've compiled in the sound module, OSS and SB16 for my SB16PnP card
 and ran update modules. Yet nothing is in /etc/modules except my vfat and I
 see on my boot sceen no sb being loaded. What's up?

Did you do a make modules-install?
 
 Also it is related to the fact that three cd players I have used don't 'see'
 my cdrom drive to play, eject, whatever?
 
Maybe a symlink to the wrong device? So, /dev/cdrom pointing
to /dev/hdb whiel your cdrom is actually /dev/hdc?

Dirk



Re: Masquerading -- Am I missing something?

2000-11-09 Thread David Z. Maze
Michael Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MP Ok, I recently got a Maxtor 80Gb HD, so I figured I'd start with a fresh
MP install of Potato on my system. My problem is that I can't seem to get a
MP kernel that gives me both IP Masquerading and support for the drive.
MP 
MP Now, on the kernels that the Masquerading fails on, it isn't a
MP total failure.  Basic masquerading works fine, but when I try to
MP use, say, Asheron's Call or MusicMatch station selector on one
MP of the machines on my subnet, it fails (I can, however, do simple
MP functions like read Debian's webpage).

This is probably a consequence of the way IP masquerading works.
Let's say I'm trying to read a Web page, so I open a connection from
192.168.1.2, port 23456 to 198.186.203.20 port 80.  I send the packet
to my gateway machine, 192.168.1.1.  The gateway decides to masquerade 
the packet, so it forwards on the same packet, but coming from a
different port on the gateway's external IP address.  When return
packets appear, they're forwarded back on to the original port of the
original machine.  So:

  +-+ 192.168.1.2:23456 192.168.1.1:3456
  | desktop |---v
  +-+  +-+
   | gateway |
  +-+  +-+
  | server  |--|
  +-+ 198.186.203.20:80 18.19.20.21:12345

The problem here is with protocols that include IP addresses in the
packet bodies themselves.  If I send a packet that says, hi there,
please talk to me at 192.168.1.2, the protocol will fail because that 
address doesn't actually exist.  For certain protocols (like FTP),
there are kernel modules to do the rewriting, but there's not a good
general solution to this.

Short answer: something Just Don't Work with IP masquerading.

MP This was a symptom I was seeing when using 2.0.* kernels, so I assumed that
MP the current kernel I was working with was a bad version. Here's a history
MP of my attempts after making that assumption:
MP 
MP 2.2.12: Masquerading works fine, Drive gives strange errors
MP 2.2.15: Masquerading doesn't work, Drive works fine
MP 2.2.17: Same as .15
MP 2.4.0-test5: Won't boot. Out of Memory error while decompressing.

Is this using the stock Debian kernel-image?  You might try compiling
your own kernel to have the set of options you need.

-- 
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Theoretical politics is interesting.  Politicking should be illegal.
-- Abra Mitchell



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2000-11-09 Thread Colon, Marchell D.









Re: subnets 2 NICS in a mashine

2000-11-09 Thread robert_wilhelm_land
John wrote:
 Ok ill have a go,
 
 I think its something like this :) ?
 
 for each IP number bound to each NIC a route is set up in the routing table 
 to tell
 the OS what to do with specific IP numbers
 
 ie if NIC1=192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0
 
 and NIC2=192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0
 
 then routes would be set up for each subnet within the OS
 
 ie 192.168.0.xxx  NIC1 ie packets in the 192.168.0.1 up to 254 get sent 
 here
 192.168.1.xxx-NIC2packets in the 192.168.1.1 up to 254 get sent 
 here
 
 there will no doubt be additional routes to deal with gateways , local, etc.
 
 now if NIC1 and NIC2 lie on the same range
 
 192.168.0.xxx - NIC1 ie 192.168.0.1
  - NIC2 ie 192.168.0.2
 
 as i understand it you cannot have more then one route entry per subnet 
 192.168.0.xxx
 so all packets in the range 192.168.0.xxx get sent to NIC1.
 
 As far as i know you will have to use 2 subnets and if you want the 
 192.168.0.xxx
 range to be able to talk
 to the 192.168.1.xxx range you will need to do ipforwarding between the 2.

Does ipfowarding relate on something special compiled into the kernel
or do I need a certain package? Generaly I seemed to have
misunderstood that IP packets are _not_ sent to a certain ethernet
card but are rather propagated within the subnet?
Simple example:
A server with two NIC's (each NIC connected via ethernet to a client)
wants to send data to only one client. This server should know by
looking into /etc/hosts which IP number the client has assigned to and
may not be pertubed by another client within the same subnet.
Could you help me in this special example?


 Still learning here, mind you the more i learn the more there is to know  
 sigh 

...as every day proves   :^)


Robert



Re: subnets 2 NICS in a mashine

2000-11-09 Thread robert_wilhelm_land
Robert Guthrie wrote:

 On Wednesday 08 November 2000 23:21, John wrote:
 
  As far as i know you will have to use 2 subnets and if you want the
  192.168.0.xxx range to be able to talk
  to the 192.168.1.xxx range you will need to do ipforwarding between the 2.
 
 
 I agree with this assessment.
 
 
  robert_wilhelm_land wrote:
   Would someone kindly help me in understanding why I cannot configure
   two ethernet cards using the same subnet but different IP's on one
   mashine?
  
   In this case I would like to setup a linux server for a smb-win32 and
   a nfs-nfs connection (in all 3 mashines)
  
   Any short comment is appreciated
  
   Robert
 
 Now, I'm not quite sure what your setup is here, so let see if your setup is
 the same as mine...
 
 1 linux box, serving NFS and SMB to 2 desktops that dual-boot linux and
 windows 98.
 
 Under linux, I mount (among other things), /home over nfs, so that when I log
 in to any linux computer, I have the same files available.

Thats a good idea! Does this mean that all settings (X11, fvwm2, the
whole enviroment) will be used on the client?



 Under windows, I map a drive letter (H:) to an SMB share of my home
 directory, accomplishing roughly the same thing.
 
 I do this all on one network.  I use another machine (on the same network) as
 a router/gateway/firewall to my dial-up account.
 
 Now, are you serving 3 computers with your nfs/smb linux box in roughly the
 same way as I am?  

I just wanted to spare (at least for some time) a switch, therefore
had the idea to plug 2 NICS into the linux server who serves 1 Win95
box and 1 linux box. 

 Is there some reason you want to use two different NICs?
Networks are a very difficult area, it is just attempt to understand
the simplest things...


 Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you
 will hear the voice of Satan?
 
 That's nothing!  If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.

Wher did you get that from!:))





Robert




Re: desktop power managment

2000-11-09 Thread mike

On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 21:20:45 -0800, David Yeh said:

 I have a cheap MyFavoritePC celeron 400 with added ram and hard disk space.
   It works pretty well and fast with Linux.
  
  One thing I haven't been able to get it to do is shutdown the computer and
  power it off.  I tried both kernel options for power down, both real mode,
  and real mode disabled.  I've looked at the halt command in the init
  scripts and it has the -p option passed to it.  I have no idea what's
  wrong.  The computer turns off correctly with Win 2k and win98.
 

To power off my computer with 'halt' i needed to add this to my
lilo.conf: append='apm=on'. This works with the kernel CONFIG_APM=y.

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newbie doc volunteers

2000-11-09 Thread will trillich
Troy Mutton wrote:
 
 Hi Will,
 
 Im a debian new*ie, and would like to help out if i can with this new
 project.
 
 ive been using debian for about 2 months now, after migrating from winblows
 to red hat about 6-8 months back.
 
 i dont know exactly what i can offer ;) or what it is you want from
 volunteers.
 
 I figure that as i am a new user, but i still have a fair idea what im
 trying to do and more often than not i can work out how to do it, that i
 could possibly give some sort of advice to other ppl out there in a similar
 position.
 
 if you would like my help, you should give me a yell, otherwise dont worry.

perfect!

if there are one or two specific areas that gave you a hard time,
if you could kinda put together a doc (spend about three hours on 
each, if possible) of WHAT YOU WISH YOU'D FOUND before trying to 
acomplish your tasks.

then, feel free to post it at egroups.com/files/newbieDoc! and
let the rest of us know by hollering at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

awesome!

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Re: info su installazione di Debian

2000-11-09 Thread Francesco Bochicchio
On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 05:27:58PM +0100, Pietro Greco wrote:
 potrei ricevere possibilmente in italiano le isrtuzzioni per l'
 installazione di debian poichè ho grossi problemi
 grazie e arrivederci

Cosa ti serve in particolare? Rispondi a me, in questa lista si parla 
sopratutto inglese. Oppure fai la stessa domanda su debian-italian.

Ciao.  
-- 
FB



Re: SysAdmin list and question ..

2000-11-09 Thread Leen Besselink
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Alberto Brealey wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 08:53:26AM -0800, Dave wrote:
 
  2.  My debian box has several scsi disks on it, and if one is turned off
  at boot time, the machine mounts the wrong disks on the defined
  filesystems, even though they are listed correctly in /etc/fstab. Is
 
 this is a problem with the way the linux kernel handles device name
 allocation (is this the way to say it?). the thing is, /dev/sda is going to
 be the _first_ scsi disc on your system (the first one your kernel
 recognises), so if you turn on your machine with a only a disc with an id of
 5 in the second controller, it will be /dev/sda.
 but if you hook up another disc with id 2 on the first controller, this new
 disc will become /dev/sda, nad the previously-know-as-/dev/sda wil become
 /dev/sdb. so: if you add or remove discs, every hd that has an scsi id
 higher that the one on the changed device will change its /dev/sdax place.
 
 i believe solaris does not have this problem, since it handles discs like
 /dev/scsi-bus-id/scsi-id or some variation...
 
  there a way to force the machine to mount a given disk on a given
  filesystem?  Thanks!
 
 not on linux, i don't think so.
 
 hope this helps,
 
 Alberto.
I'm not sure, but maybe linux 2.4 solves this.



XFS hanging during boot

2000-11-09 Thread Michael Goodman
I'm trying to boot my potato after upgrading to XF 4.01.  The system hangs 
while starting the font server (XFS ).  I tried booting into single user mode 
to remove S20XFS from /etc/rc2.d but the file system is mounted read only.  
Does anyone know how to work around this?  Thanks



Re: subnets 2 NICS in a mashine

2000-11-09 Thread Robert Guthrie
On Thursday 09 November 2000 12:05, robert_wilhelm_land wrote:
 Robert Guthrie wrote:
  Now, I'm not quite sure what your setup is here, so let see if your setup
  is the same as mine...
 
  1 linux box, serving NFS and SMB to 2 desktops that dual-boot linux and
  windows 98.
 
  Under linux, I mount (among other things), /home over nfs, so that when I
  log in to any linux computer, I have the same files available.

 Thats a good idea! Does this mean that all settings (X11, fvwm2, the
 whole enviroment) will be used on the client?

Well, not exactly;  If you have, say 5 computers that have different video 
cards, you'll want them configured differently (XF86config file).  

You'll probably need to add the same software to each workstation to support 
the same set of window managers and other applications.  You could share /usr 
over nfs, and that _MIGHT_ work, but it'd be slow; plus, that could cause 
SERIOUS problems with package management.

Mostly, I just share home out so that I have the same www bookmarks, same 
mail folders, and same custom scripts (under ~/bin) available to me.  There 
are lots of issues when you do this kind of thing, though (you have to make 
sure your /etc/group and /etc/passwd files are synchronised across the LAN, 
so that every machine identifies group and user ownership correctly.

  Under windows, I map a drive letter (H:) to an SMB share of my home
  directory, accomplishing roughly the same thing.
 
  I do this all on one network.  I use another machine (on the same
  network) as a router/gateway/firewall to my dial-up account.
 
  Now, are you serving 3 computers with your nfs/smb linux box in roughly
  the same way as I am?

 I just wanted to spare (at least for some time) a switch, therefore
 had the idea to plug 2 NICS into the linux server who serves 1 Win95
 box and 1 linux box.

  Is there some reason you want to use two different NICs?


You can usually support 10 or more computers over NFS and SMB shares before 
you start seeing bandwith problems (on 10Mbits, on 100Mbits, you have more 
bandwidth that you can shake a stick at).

 Networks are a very difficult area, it is just attempt to understand
 the simplest things...

Again, I think you're compicating your life by creating 2 subnets to support 
only 2 computers.

  Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you
  will hear the voice of Satan?
 
  That's nothing!  If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.

 Wher did you get that from!:))

I saw it on somebody else's .signature.  I copied it from memory, so I can't 
credit the original author. 



Re: Question and goodbye...

2000-11-09 Thread Francesco Bochicchio
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 09:42:52AM +1100, Damien wrote:
 
 it's the same traffic, just all lumped into one big mail. the traffic isn't
 that hard to deal with - maybe ten minutes a day, if you've got a good mailer.
 
Yep. It was the amount on trafic on debian-user which forced me to abandon
netscape mail client and learn how to use fetchmail+procmail+mutt. 
Once everithing is distributed in folders and sorted by threads, it is quite 
easy to pick up the interesting ones.

Over all, this was a good thing.

I _would_ have problems, probably, if I forgot to download mail for a week
or so.
  
Ciao
-- 
FB



remote login advice

2000-11-09 Thread Andrew Dwight Dixon
Hi All,
I have a small network at my home consisting of an old desktop machine
and my laptop.  I use the desktop for IP Masquerading and a few other
things.  My questionis this.  How can I set up these machines so that
I can log into the desktop from my laptop so I can get rid of the large
monitor on top of my desk?

Any advice or pointers to documentation would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Andy


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Re: subnets 2 NICS in a mashine

2000-11-09 Thread Robert Guthrie
On Thursday 09 November 2000 13:06, robert_wilhelm_land wrote:

 Does ipfowarding relate on something special compiled into the kernel
 or do I need a certain package?
Yes and Yes.  Read the howto documents on IP-Masquerading and IP-Chains.  
Then re-read them, then meditate and pray for understanding; it's hard if you 
don't REALLY know networking well.

 Generaly I seemed to have
 misunderstood that IP packets are _not_ sent to a certain ethernet
 card but are rather propagated within the subnet?
 Simple example:
 A server with two NIC's (each NIC connected via ethernet to a client)
 wants to send data to only one client. This server should know by
 looking into /etc/hosts which IP number the client has assigned to and
 may not be pertubed by another client within the same subnet.
 Could you help me in this special example?

Okay, this I know about:
On an ethernet network every packet of information that is transmitted by a 
computer is visible to all NICs on the network.  For a NIC to actually accept 
a packet for it's machine, the packet must be addressed to that NIC's MAC 
address (the ethernet driver translates IPs to MACS when transmitting 
packets), or the nic must be in promisquious mode, which allows it to 
accept all packets (special case used to sniff packets).

It seems you think of packets traveling around on your network as if they 
were a road; the data hops in a car, pulls out of it's driveway, drives down 
the street and pulls into another driveway, then gets out and knocks on the 
door of the recipient.

A kind of wierd analogy might be like this:  You're talking on a two-way 
radio (HAM, walkie-talkie, etc..), where only one person can talk at any 
given time.  Each person is allowed 30 seconds maximum of talk time before 
they must pause and let someone else talk if they want.  When someone starts 
tallking, they say I want to talk to Fred. and then they start talking.  
Not being interrested in what is being told to fred, everyone else ignores 
what is being said until they hear the phrase I want to talk to  

That's kind of what's going on on the physical side of the network (wire, 
NICs).  Hope that helps your understanding.


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will hear the voice of Satan?

That's nothing!  If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.



help with cdrom.h

2000-11-09 Thread John McBride
Hi,

I have been trying to compile the codebase for bcast 2000, a
multimedia application on my debian box.

Under /usr/src/linux/include/linux (kernel 2.2.17), there is a file
named cdrom.h that has many DVD_* definitions.

But under /usr/include/linux, the cdrom.h does not have these
definitions. Thus, I get a slew of `DVD_* undeclared messages when
trying to compile mpeg3css.c, which has the line #include
linux/cdrom.h.

What is the proper way to correct this? I'm tempted to change the
#include line in the source file to go directly to the kernel sources,
but it seems like there may be a better way to get my system sync'ed up.

TIA,
John



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